Sep 08, 2026 Community Redevelopment Agency

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THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND WELCOME, EVERYONE TO THE COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING.

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AND IN LIEU OF THAT, WE'LL CALL THE ROLL. CHAIR PENMAN HERE, VICE CHAIR SCHULTZ, MEMBER.

BARTON IS ABSENT. MEMBER. BLANKENSHIP HERE. MAYOR HEITMANN HERE.

MEMBER. KRAMER HERE. MEMBER. CROWELL HERE. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. AND, MR. CROW, WOULD YOU LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE? I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

THANK YOU. NEED ANY CHANGES TO THE AGENDA? I HAVE NO CHANGES, MADAM.

[3) SET AGENDA]

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AND A SECOND, PLEASE. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AND OPPOSED. SAME SIGN. THANK YOU. OLD BUSINESS.

[7.A) Update on the 1st Ave S, 12th St S, 10th St Project (CIP 25C02).]

THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. GOOD AFTERNOON AND GOOD AFTERNOON, CRA MEMBERS ANITA JENKINS, YOUR CRA ADMINISTRATOR, FOR THE RECORD. AND WITH ME AT THE DESK TODAY IS DAN ORENSTEIN, OUR CITY ENGINEER AND STORMWATER MANAGER.

DAN IS ALSO THE PROJECT MANAGER FOR OUR MAJOR INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS.

TODAY, WE'RE GOING TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE FOR YOU ON OUR FIRST 12TH AND 10TH STREET PROJECT.

AND I'LL JUST TURN IT OVER TO DAN TO LET YOU KNOW WHERE WE'RE AT ON THAT AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.

GOOD AFTERNOON. I HOPE YOU ALL HAVE A NICE HOLIDAY WEEKEND.

DAN ORENSTEIN, CITY ENGINEER, STORMWATER MANAGER HERE TO PROVIDE YOU WITH AN UPDATE ON THE FIRST 10TH, 12TH STREETSCAPE PROJECT. DESIGN IS PROCEEDING WITHIN SCHEDULE.

PAPE DAWSON PROVIDED 60% PLANS IN EARLY APRIL, FOLLOWED BY A PRESENTATION TO THE APRIL MEETING OF THE CRA ADVISORY BOARD, AS WELL AS THE JUNE MEETING OF THE CRA.

STAFF. COMMENTS WERE COLLECTED THIS SUMMER FROM DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS AND PAPE DAWSON IS PROCEEDING WITH THE 90% PLANS.

WE ANTICIPATE THE 90% PLANS TO BE READY EARLIER THAN EXPECTED BY MID-OCTOBER, WITH FULL DESIGN PLANS READY BY THE END OF THE CALENDAR YEAR. ON ANOTHER FRONT, PAPE DAWSON AND CITY STAFF ARE PROCEEDING WITH PERMITTING WITH THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS, THE SOUTH FLORIDA WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT, COLLIER COUNTY, THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION, AND THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION.

OVERALL PERMITTING IS PROCEEDING WITHIN EXPECTATIONS, BUT IS GETTING A LITTLE MORE SCRUTINY FROM THESE AGENCIES.

THE US ARMY CORPS IS REQUIRING ADDITIONAL INFORMATION REGARDING THE PROPOSED MANGROVE REMOVAL AT THE HEADWALL ON GOODLETTE FRANK ROAD TO DETERMINE THE LEVEL OF ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT. IN ADDITION, THE WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT DETERMINED THAT OUR PROJECT WOULD BE HANDLED AS A MODIFICATION TO AN EXISTING PERMIT SO THAT A MORE THOROUGH REVIEW IS REQUIRED.

SO WITH THAT, WE ARE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

CAN YOU COMMENT MORE ON WHAT THE ISSUE IS WITH THE MANGROVES? LIKE HOW MANY ARE BEING REMOVED AND ARE WE PLANNING TO REPLANT THEM THERE OR MITIGATE SOMEWHERE ELSE? THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION. RIGHT AT THE HEADWALL AT GOODLETTE FRANK ROAD.

THERE'S A SMALL AREA OF MANGROVES RIGHT AT THE RIGHT AT THE EDGE THERE.

SO THOSE WOULD NEED TO BE REMOVED. AND IT'S UP TO OUR PROCESS WITH THE ARMY CORPS.

WHAT IS THE RIGHT REMEDY THERE. SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON WITH THEM.

OKAY. BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY WE'VE HEARD MANY TIMES HOW IMPORTANT MANGROVES ARE TO OUR WATER QUALITY.

SO WE WANT TO PROTECT THEM WHERE WE CAN. AND SO IF WE CAN FIND A GOOD SOLUTION TO EITHER REPLANT THEM THERE OR NEARBY, MAYBE THAT'S GOOD FOR US AND WOULD SATISFY THEIR CONCERN.

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ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. SO THE CONCERN IS BACK TO TED'S QUESTION.

THE CONCERN IS ABOUT THE CURRENT LOCATION OR THE FACT THAT THEY DON'T WANT THEM THERE AT ALL.

WELL, WE'VE GOT A WE'RE WE HAVE OUR OUTFALL THERE.

AND TO REINSTALL TO INSTALL BIGGER PIPES THERE.

WE'VE GOT TO REMOVE THE MANGROVES TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN RIGHT IN THAT SPOT SO THAT THE WATER FLOWS CLEAR OUT TO THE TO THE BAY OR TO THE RIVER.

OKAY. AS YOU WERE RECEIVING YOUR PERMIT PERMIT FOR MAKING THOSE ADJUSTMENTS, WAS THERE ANY QUESTION ABOUT THE MANGROVES BEING MOVED OR REMOVED OR.

NO. NO QUESTION. NO ONE CALLED THAT INTO QUESTION.

THAT'S WHAT WE'RE WORKING OUT NOW WITH WITH THE U.S.

ARMY CORPS. OKAY, FINE. ALL RIGHT. SORRY. YEAH.

THESE ARE ALL GOOD QUESTIONS. SO YOU'RE WORKING ON IT? PLEASE. OH, SORRY. SO THEY'RE WORKING ON IT, BUT WHERE ARE YOU IN THAT NEGOTIATION OR THAT PROCESS? IT'S IN THE UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE SEEKING TO REMOVE THE MANGROVES.

SO IT'S IN THE IT'S IN THEIR COURT AT THE US ARMY CORPS.

AND YOU SAID IT IS IN CONJUNCTION WITH ANOTHER PERMIT.

WE HAVE SEVERAL OVERLAPPING PERMITS FOR THIS.

SO ANOTHER ITEM IS THE SOUTH FLORIDA WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT.

SO THEY'RE FOR OUR AND WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT IS OUR ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT.

SO THEY'RE DETERMINING WHETHER OR NOT, YOU KNOW, WE'LL NEED TO DO A MORE THOROUGH SPECIES REVIEW BEFORE WE CAN PROCEED.

BUT WE SHOULD BE HEARING BACK FROM FROM THE SOUTH FLORIDA WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT BY THE END OF THIS WEEK.

SO STAFF'S JUST WAITING FOR THE ARMY CORPS TO COME BACK AND TELL THE CITY WHAT TO DO.

OR IS STAFF GOING BACK TO THE ARMY CORPS WITH, HEY, WE HEAR YOUR CONCERN AND HERE'S WHAT WE PROPOSE TO DO TO MITIGATE IT.

WE'RE WE'RE WAITING FOR COMMENTS. MAY I? YEAH.

SO THIS IS GOING TO BE REALLY NO DIFFERENT THAN THE PEER.

AND EVEN THOUGH WE ARE PUTTING THE WE PUT THE PEER BACK.

IT WAS BIGGER. YES. AND THEREFORE IT WAS MORE IMPACTFUL.

SO ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS HAS TO DO ITS REVIEW.

THEY CAN REFER TO NATIONAL MARINE AND FISHERIES TO EVALUATE THAT IMPACT AS WELL.

SO WHAT DAN IS SAYING IS HE'S, THEY'RE WAITING FOR THIS INITIAL REVIEW.

THEY DEEMED THAT IN THE CONSTRUCTION PROJECT IT WAS GOING TO BE MORE INVASIVE THAN THE ONE IS THERE, WHICH WOULD REQUIRE SOME MANGROVES TO BE REMOVED.

THUS, ARMY CORPS IS EVALUATING TO SAY WHAT IS THE IMPACT AND SHOULD WE REFER IT FOR SPECIES EVALUATION, ETC.. SO WE'RE STILL WAITING ON THOSE COMMENTS.

WE DON'T CONTROL WHEN THEY ASK FOR SOMETHING, YOU GET AN RFI, YOU HAVE TO RESPOND AND THAT'S THE WAY IT'LL GO.

NOW FOR A LITTLE BIT. UNTIL THEY CONCLUDE, EITHER THEY CAN DECIDE ON THEIR OWN OR THEY WANT TO REFER TO THE FISH AND WILDLIFE.

SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE ARE. SO IT'S NOT THAT WE'RE NOT RESPONDING AND DOING THE WORK, BUT WE'RE NOT DOING A REDESIGN.

GIVEN WHAT WE'VE ASKED IN THE LOCATION, IT NEEDS TO BE UPSIZED OR YOU'RE NOT GOING TO INCREASE CAPACITY.

THE LOCATION WHERE OUR PUMP CURRENTLY IS IS THE SAME.

AND SO WE JUST HAVE TO WORK THROUGH THAT PROCESS.

NOW, THEY COULD JUST AS EASILY COME BACK AND SAY, WHEN IT'S ALL SAID AND DONE, FIGURE OUT ANOTHER PLACE AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO LET YOU DO THAT. BUT, BUT RIGHT NOW IT IS MOST COST EFFECTIVE AND BENEFICIARY TO REPLACE THE ONE THAT WE HAVE IN DOING THE UPSIZING.

SO IT REALLY IS ABOUT THEM. WHAT QUESTIONS DO THEY HAVE US RESPONDING AND WAITING ON THAT BACK AND FORTH.

BUT YOU KNOW, IF APPEARS ANY INDICATION, AS SOON AS YOU'RE ON, YOU KNOW, TOUCHING A WATER BODY, IT COULD BE A SUBSTANTIAL PERIOD OF REVIEW BACK AND FORTH.

RIGHT? ABSOLUTELY. YES. SO. I WASN'T HAPPY ABOUT PUTTING WATER BACK INTO THE BAY, WHICH WAS ALREADY IMPAIRED. SO WERE THERE OTHER ALTERNATIVES WE COULD HAVE LOOKED AT WITH THAT WATER.

GOOD QUESTION. NON PARTICULAR. THE MAIN GOAL IS THIS ISN'T THE MAIN GOAL IS TO HELP DRAIN THE PARTS OF TOWN.

IN THE EVENT OF A HEAVY RAIN EVENT, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE FOCUSED ON.

IT'S, IT'S DIFFERENT THAN US TRYING TO PROTECT THE CITY FROM OR THAT THOSE PORTIONS OF TOWN FROM SURGE.

SO IN A HEAVY RAIN EVENT, WHAT THIS WILL DO IS GREATLY EXPAND OUR ABILITY TO DRAIN THE DESIGN DISTRICT IN THAT AREA OF THE CRA.

SO THAT'S THE IN TERMS OF TO REDUCE FLOODING AND IMPROVE RESILIENCE OF THE AREA.

YEAH, I'M I'M CLEAR ABOUT THAT. I'M JUST CURIOUS IS IF TO WHERE WE MIGHT HAVE BEEN ABLE TO REDIRECT OR

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WELL INTO, I MEAN, IS THERE ANY OTHER, WERE THERE ANY ALTERNATIVE ALTERNATIVE MEASURES THAT WERE LOOKED AT? NO MA'AM, NOT BECAUSE IT'S AT 90%. I GUESS WE'RE A LITTLE LATE FOR THAT.

RIGHT. WE'RE PRETTY WELL ALONG AND THERE AREN'T ANY OTHER ALTERNATIVES PROPOSED WITH THIS PROJECT.

THANK YOU. AND DO I RECALL THAT WE'RE DOING SOMETHING TO HELP CLEAN UP THAT WATER BEFORE IT GOES BACK INTO THE BAY.

OR IS THAT JUST STRAIGHT, A STRAIGHT SHOT? I THOUGHT WE WERE DOING SOME SORT OF FILTRATION OR SOMETHING WITH THIS PROJECT.

THERE'S THERE'S A POSSIBILITY OF ADDING WATER QUALITY TREATMENTS BEFORE WE GET OUT TO THE BAY, BUT WE'RE AT WE'RE AT 90% AT THIS POINT. SO WE DID TALK ABOUT THAT, DIDN'T WE? RIGHT. THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. WELL, I'M REALLY HOPEFUL THAT THAT WILL HAPPEN AND THAT WILL ALLEVIATE SOME OF THE MAYOR'S CONCERN.

I THINK AT LEAST WE'RE GETTING CLEANER WATER IN THAN IT WOULD HAVE BEEN OTHERWISE JUST WITH RUNOFF.

RIGHT? CERTAINLY. OKAY. THANKS. GOOD POINT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY. WELL, OBVIOUSLY OUR CONCERNS ABOUT THE MANGROVES HAVE BEEN SOMEWHAT REGISTERED.

I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY KIND OF RECOURSE THERE, OR THE WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT IS PROBABLY GOING TO HAVE FINAL SAY.

BUT IF THERE'S ANY WAY WE CAN RETRIEVE THOSE, REPLANT THEM, WHATEVER.

I THINK THAT'S THE MESSAGING AMONG SOME OF US UP HERE ANYWAY.

OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY.

THAT WE'LL MOVE ON TO. ANITA. WE'RE ON.

ITEM NUMBER FIVE. SORRY. MOVE ALONG FURTHER THAN THAT.

DISCUSSION ON DIRECTION ON THE SUGDEN PLAZA. SEVEN B YES, THANK YOU CHAIR.

[7.B) Update on the 5th Ave South and Sugden Plaza Project (CIP 25C07).]

YOU'LL RECALL THAT WE SUBMITTED FOR A GRANT. AND I'LL LET DAN INTRODUCE OUR CONSULTANTS THAT WILL PREPARE OR WILL DELIVER A PRESENTATION FOR YOU. AND IN THIS PRESENTATION, AT THE REQUEST OF THE MAYOR TO REMIND US ALL OF WHAT THE INITIAL DESIGN WAS FOR FIFTH AVENUE IN THE STREETSCAPE AND THE LANDSCAPE THAT WILL BE PART OF THIS PRESENTATION TO TO LET YOU KNOW WHERE WE ARE STARTING FROM. PERFECT. GOOD AFTERNOON AGAIN.

THE CITY INITIATED A RFP FOR DESIGN SERVICES FOR THE FIFTH AVE SOUTH AND PLAZA IMPROVEMENT PROJECT. THE WINNING BIDDER WAS KIMLEY-HORN AND ASSOCIATES, AND THEIR CONTRACT WAS APPROVED EARLIER THIS.

SUMMER FOR FOR SERVICES TO APPLY FOR THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ASSISTANCE GRANT AS WELL AS CONTINUE WITH THE PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING REPORTS THAT WE CAN LINE EVERYTHING UP FOR THE GRANT AND FOR FUTURE SERVICES.

SO PLEASE LET ME ALLOW ME TO INTRODUCE MR. JONATHAN HAY WITH KIMLEY-HORN.

HE'S A VICE PRESIDENT AND OUR CHIEF PROJECT MANAGER.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE TODAY, SIR.

NO PROBLEM. I'M OPENING THIS UP FOR YOU, JONATHAN.

THERE YOU GO. SO GOOD AFTERNOON, BOARD MEMBERS.

I'M JONATHAN HAAG. AS DAN MENTIONED, I'M HERE TODAY WITH SOME OF MY TEAM FROM KIMLEY-HORN AS WELL AS PAPE DAWSON OUR PARTNER ON THIS PROJECT.

SO FOR TODAY, I WANTED TO GIVE YOU A QUICK OVERVIEW OF WHERE WE ARE ON THE EDA GRANT.

THE BRIEF DISCUSSION ON THE PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING REPORT TELL YOU WHAT WE CAME UP WITH FOR OUR OPINION OF PROBABLE CONSTRUCTION COST, WHERE WE'RE LOOKING AT ON THE PROJECT TIMELINE LIKE ANITA SAID, REVIEW OF THE 2020 CONCEPT AND THEN OUR ANTICIPATED IMPLEMENTATION SCHEDULE. SO AS FAR AS THE EDA GRANT GOES, WE WERE SUBMITTED AN APPLICATION IN JUNE.

IT INCLUDED PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING, PRELIMINARY ENVIRONMENTAL, AND OUR OPINION OF PROBABLE COST.

BASED ON ALL THAT INFORMATION THAT WE DID SUBMIT.

WE ASKED FOR A GRANT AMOUNT OF $21 MILLION, WHICH IS EXCLUDING THE CITIES MATCH.

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GOING INTO THE PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING REPORT.

WE SUBMITTED A BRIEF VERSION OF IT BACK IN JUNE.

WE'VE SINCE UPDATED IT A LITTLE BIT MORE AND SUBMITTED THAT.

THAT MORE FINAL VERSION A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO TO THE CITY.

IT'S BEEN UPDATED WITH ADDITIONAL UTILITY INFORMATION MORE DRAINAGE INFORMATION BASED ON SOME PRELIMINARY MODELING ON THE STREET.

WE LOOKED. WE. OUR LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTS, MET WITH THE CITY ARBORISTS AND.

TO REVIEW SOME OF THE TREES ON THE SITES. WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF THAT INFORMATION IN THERE AS WELL. AND THEN WE WE CREATED SOME CONCEPTUAL DESIGNS TO SPARK SOME DISCUSSION.

SO WE'RE CALLING THIS VERY PRELIMINARY BECAUSE WE STILL HAVE NOT BEEN AUTHORIZED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH GEOTECHNICAL ENGINEERING, SUBSURFACE UTILITY EXPLORATION, OR EVEN A SURVEY.

SO EVERYTHING WE'RE DOING IS KIND OF BASED ON, YOU KNOW, READILY AVAILABLE INFORMATION, FOR THE LACK OF A BETTER WORD.

AS FAR AS THE EXISTING CONDITIONS GO HISTORICAL RESURFACING DOWN THE STREET RELATED TO DRAINAGE RESULTED IN REDUCED CURB HEIGHT OVER TIME. SOME, SOME PONDING AT THE CROSSWALKS IS HAPPENING BECAUSE OF THE DRAINAGE PATTERNS ALONG THE STREET END UP HAVING LOW AREAS WHERE YOU'RE CROSSING THE STREET. SURE. AND THEN THIS QUARTER ITSELF DOES SIT AT A LOWER ELEVATION WITH GROUNDWATER VERY CLOSE TO THE SURFACE.

SO AS FAR AS THE DESIGN SOLUTION TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE THE DRAINAGE CONCERNS, WHAT WE'LL LOOK AT DOING IS CREATING A WE'LL DO A BASIN ASSESSMENT TO INCREASE THE CAPACITY OF THE STORM SYSTEM. WE WILL DEVELOP TREATMENT OPTIONS TO ADDRESS ALL THE REGULATORY COMPLIANCE THAT'S REQUIRED BY SOUTH FLORIDA AND BEYOND.

WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT RAISING STUDY AREA ELEVATIONS WHERE WE CAN.

AND WE'RE GOING TO ADDRESS THE ACCESSIBILITY AND THE UNIFORMITY AT THE CROSSWALKS AS WELL.

AND THEN ULTIMATE GOAL IS TO BALANCE OUR FUNCTIONALITY CONSTRUCTABILITY AND ADDRESS MAINTENANCE REQUIREMENTS.

WITH REGARDS TO THE UTILITY SYSTEMS ALONG THE STREET.

WE HAVE AGING WATER MAIN BASICALLY NEEDS REPLACEMENT.

WE HAVE A SIX INCH ASBESTOS CEMENT MAIN THAT HAS EXCEEDED ITS USEFUL LIFE.

THE RECLAIMED WATER SYSTEM IS LIMITED, BUT THE CITY HAS NOTED SOME MAINTENANCE ISSUES WITH THE CURRENT SYSTEM. AND THE SANITARY SEWER GRAVITY SYSTEM IS LOCATED ON THE STREETS AND THE ALLEYS. SO WE'RE NOT GOING TO IMPACT THAT AS MUCH EXCEPT WHERE WE'RE CROSSING. AS FAR AS DESIGN SOLUTIONS RELATED TO THE UTILITY WORK, WE WILL BE RECOMMENDING REPLACING NEARLY 3000 LINEAR FEET OF SIX INCH WATER MAIN AND AND REPLACEMENT OF THE SIX AND 12 INCH RECLAIMED WATER MAINS AND THEN THE TIE INS AT THE INTERSECTIONS.

THERE ARE LOTS OF DESIGN CONSTRAINTS ALONG THE STREET THAT WE WILL BE ADDRESSING ONCE WE GET INTO THE NEXT PHASES, INCLUDING, YOU KNOW, LIMITED SPACE, WHICH IS TYPICAL FOR AN URBAN STREET, LIMITED SPACE IN THE CORRIDOR FOR UTILITIES AND COMPETING INTERESTS WITH SEATING AND LANDSCAPE AND EVERYTHING ELSE. WE'LL BE LOCATING EXISTING UTILITIES AND SUBSURFACE VAULTS.

WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT HORIZONTAL SEPARATION BETWEEN THE LINES AS IT GOES DOWN THE STREET. PHASING IS IMPORTANT TO MAINTAIN BUSINESS OPERATIONS DURING CONSTRUCTION. SOMETHING I'LL GET INTO A LITTLE BIT LATER ON.

AND THEN ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS ALONG THIS PARTICULAR STREET IS YOU'VE GOT A LOT OF GRADE SEPARATION BETWEEN THE BUILDINGS.

IN SOME AREAS, YOU'LL HAVE STEPS GOING UP INTO BUILDINGS OR RAMPS, SOMETHING WE'LL NEED TO ADDRESS DURING DESIGN BECAUSE IT'S NOT LIKE A, IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE DOING A MALL. EVERYTHING'S NOT BUILT AT THE SAME TIME.

EVERYTHING WAS BUILT ORGANICALLY, WHICH IS WHAT MAKES IT SO UNIQUE AND COOL.

BUT ADDRESSING THOSE GRADE CONCERNS IS GOING TO BE A BIG CHALLENGE FOR US.

AND THEN NOT ONLY THAT, BUT LOOKING AT MINIMIZING PARKING IMPACTS IN SITE DISTANCE REQUIREMENTS FOR LANDSCAPE DURING CONSTRUCTION, WE'LL BE LOOKING AT PROTECTION AND MAINTENANCE OF UTILITY SERVICE DURING CONSTRUCTION.

THAT'S GOING TO BE VERY IMPORTANT. THE AVAILABILITY IN GENERAL OF MATERIALS DUE TO SHIFTING GLOBAL INFLUENCES.

WE'RE SEEING THIS EVERY DAY. WE'RE GETTING, SEEING THE PRICES OF STEEL AND CONCRETE AND DIFFERENT ASPECTS OF CONSTRUCTION GOING UP AND UP AND UP.

JUST THE HISTORIC NATURE OF THE STREET. WE DID, WE DID CLEMATIS STREET SEVERAL YEARS AGO.

YOU KNOW, THAT STREET WAS FIRST IN USE IN THE 18 LATE 1800S, A LITTLE BIT OLDER THAN, THAN NAPLES, BUT WE WERE RUNNING INTO ALL KINDS OF STRANGE THINGS UNDERGROUND ONCE THAT STARTED GETTING.

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LOOKING AT THE HISTORIC TROPICAL STORM PATTERNS BETWEEN JUNE AND NOVEMBER AND DEALING WITH THE RAIN DURING WHAT WOULD BE OUR IDEAL CONSTRUCTION SEASON AS WELL. AND THEN STAGING TO MINIMIZE CONSTRUCTION DURING PEAK SEASON SO THAT THESE BUSINESSES GET SOME RELIEF.

WHEN WE AS A PART OF THE PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING, WE ACTUALLY DID SOME DRAWINGS OF THE SITE, MORE DIAGRAMMATIC LOOKING THAN DESIGN LOOKING, BUT WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS AS A TRANSFORMATIONAL PROJECT.

A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN WHAT WAS DONE WITH THE 2000 AND TO THE STUDY THAT WAS DONE IN 2020 WITH A GUY THAT ONE WAS MORE OF A COSMETIC IMPROVEMENTS TO THE STREET. THIS ONE IS WE'RE LOOKING AT DOING MORE WITH UTILITY REPLACEMENT STORMWATER IMPROVEMENTS TO ADDRESS LONG TERM RESILIENCY. WE WANT TO ADDRESS MORE WALKABILITY AND ACCESSIBILITY AND MOBILITY CONCERNS ALONG THE STREET WHILE MAINTAINING GOOD TREE CANOPY COVERAGE.

WE HAVE GOOD SHADE ON THE STREET AS WELL AND MAXIMIZING OUR PEDESTRIAN SPACES.

SO WE'VE GOT SOME ANTICIPATED DESIGN AND GRANT MANAGEMENT FEES WITHIN THIS WITHIN THIS OPINION OF PROBABLE COST.

AND THAT GRAND TOTAL WITH 20% CONTINGENCY IS 26.25 MILLION.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE SUBMITTED WITH THE EDA GRANT APPLICATION AS WELL.

SO AS A QUICK REVIEW OF WHAT WAS DONE IN 2020, THIS WAS THE FINAL CONCEPT DESIGN APPROVED IN LATE, ALMOST A ALMOST SIX YEARS AGO TO THE DAY. LOOKING AT THE ENTIRE STREET AS MORE OF A COSMETIC EXERCISE.

NOT MUCH. NO, THERE WAS NO CHANGES IN CURBS, THE CURB WIDTHS, NO CHANGES IN THE STREET INTERSECTIONS EXCEPT FOR ADDING PAVERS AND MORE DESIGN TYPE TREATMENTS. SO WE LOOKED AT, THEY LOOKED AT AN EXISTING CONDITION AT THE TIME WITH AN EIGHT FOOT WALKING ZONE AND STILL MAINTAINING OR IN RECOGNIZING THAT VERY WIDE LANDSCAPE STRIP THAT EXISTS TODAY UP AND DOWN THE STREET, WHILE MAINTAINING THAT TWO FOOT, 2 TO 3 FOOT STRIP NEXT TO THE PARKING LOT, NEXT TO THE ON STREET PARKING AND MAINTAINING THAT PARKING LANE.

SOME OF THE PROPOSED SOLUTIONS THAT THEY HAD SHOWED ON STREET DINING AS AN OPTION STILL MAINTAINING THAT SAME 9.5FT WIDE LANDSCAPE WIDTH AND THAT EIGHT FOOT WIDE PARK OR WALKING PATHWAY.

SO ALSO SHOWN IN THAT CONCEPT WERE SOME BULB OUTS, WHICH WOULD BE KIND OF RECLAIMING SOME OF THE MAYBE DEAD SPACE IN BETWEEN PARKING OR ORGANIZING THE PARKING A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY TO ALLOW FOR MORE TREES AND LANDSCAPE TO GET CLOSER TO THE STREET, TO CREATE A TRAFFIC CALMING EFFECT. GOT A ARE YOU DRIVING FOR ME.

THANK YOU. THERE WE GO. AS A PART OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS, THERE WERE SOME HARDSCAPE TREATMENTS THAT WERE SELECTED AND PROPOSED.

AND AS I UNDERSTAND, THESE HAVE BEEN CODIFIED FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT OF THE STREET.

AND THAT INCLUDES KIND OF THESE EARTHY TONES, A MIXTURE OF PAVERS AND PAVER TYPES AND, AND PATTERNS ALONG THE STREET.

AND THEN AN EXTENSIVE LANDSCAPE PALETTE WAS ALSO PROPOSED AT THAT TIME.

MORE THAN 40 RECOMMENDED PLANT SPECIES. AND, AND THESE HAVE ALSO BEEN CODIFIED FOR FUTURE IMPLEMENTATION.

SO I ALSO GOT SOME RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE AI TEAM INCLUDING REORGANIZING THAT SPACE, MAKING SOME DIFFERENT USES OF AND EXPANDING SOME OF THAT PEDESTRIAN SPACE ALONG THE STREET, TAKING ADVANTAGE OF A LOT MORE PAVEMENT TO KIND OF CREATE, CREATE A LITTLE FLEXIBLE SPACE PLAZA FOR THERE AND ULTIMATELY RESULTING IN WHAT WAS THEN KIND OF EARLY 2020 COSTS OF JUST UNDER JUST OVER $5.5 MILLION.

YOU KNOW, AS WE'VE SEEN IN THE MARKETPLACE SINCE 2020, INFLATION HAS SKYROCKETED SINCE THEN.

SO THAT'S, WE'VE, WE'VE APPLIED, YOU KNOW, KIND OF THESE TREATMENTS AND THESE KIND OF ESTHETIC IDEAS INTO OUR OPINIONS OF PROBABLE COST.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE'VE ARRIVED AT WHERE OUR COST ESTIMATE ENDED UP IN.

LOOKING AT A ANTICIPATED IMPLEMENTATION SCHEDULE, WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS AS A FIVE YEAR PLAN.

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FOR THIS CONTRACT WITH THE CM AT RISK. THEY WOULD BE DEVELOPING A GMP AT SOME POINT IN THIS PROCESS, AND THEN. THEN THE CITY AWARDING THAT OR APPROVING THAT GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE.

WE'RE LOOKING AT A RIGHT NOW A THREE YEAR CONSTRUCTION SCHEDULE WHERE WE WOULD DIVIDE UP THE STREET INTO TWO BLOCK SEGMENT SEGMENTS AND CONSTRUCT IN THE OFF SEASON OF THE THREE, THE THREE YEARS GIVING THE IN SEASON TIME AS A HIGH SEASON TIME AS A POTENTIAL RELIEF FOR THE BUSINESSES ALONG THE STREET.

THIS IS SIMILAR TO WHAT WAS DONE ON CLEMATIS STREET IN WEST PALM BEACH AS WELL.

SO WE KNOW THIS KIND OF APPROACH IS IS POSSIBLE WITH THE RIGHT TEAM.

SO LASTLY OUR NEXT STEPS ARE TO RECEIVE TERMINATION OF THE EDA GRANT AWARD.

HOPEFULLY WE GET GOOD NEWS ON THAT. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WE'RE HERE READY TO PROCEED AS DIRECTED.

MR. CHAIRMAN. QUESTIONS? YES. MR. CHAIRMAN, I JUST WANT TO ADD A COUPLE THINGS TO THAT.

CHAIRPERSON. SORRY. I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT. SO THE REASON IT'S BEFORE YOU TODAY, ONE IS JUST TO KIND OF REMIND YOU AND YOU'RE GOING TO GET TO THE BUDGET CONVERSATION NEXT IN THIS. AND THERE'S A PLACEHOLDER OUT THERE IN THE CRA FOR 28, 29 FOR $14 MILLION.

AND AS YOU KNOW, THIS BEGAN AS A STREETSCAPE DISCUSSION, BUT THEN QUICKLY REALIZED POST IAN, THAT YOU KNOW, WE NEEDED TO DEAL WITH THE INFRASTRUCTURE AS WELL.

SO THE DISCUSSIONS THAT THAT HAS TAKEN PLACE WITH KIMLEY-HORN IS TO IS TO, AND I HOPE I SAID THAT RIGHT. DAWSON IS IN RELATIONS TO GETTING THE EDA GRANT.

NOW, WHY AM I SLOW PLAYING IT? AND I DON'T WANT TO AUTHORIZE THE CONTRACT.

NOW TO BEGIN THE FULL DESIGN. AND THERE'S A COUPLE REASONS FOR THAT.

EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING TO TRANSPIRE IN THE NEXT 100 DAYS IS GOING TO IMPACT, HAS THE POTENTIAL TO IMPACT THE CRA FUNDS.

AND AS YOU HEARD IN THE PRIOR PRESENTATION, FIRST, 10TH AND 12TH IS SET TO COME TO YOU AT 90% DESIGN SOMETIME END OF OCTOBER, EARLY NOVEMBER. AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO GET THAT UNDER CONTRACT.

SO YOUR SPENDS, WHEN YOU GET TO THE BUDGET IS THIS YEAR, WE HAVE ESTIMATED AT 18.5 MILLION FOR FIRST, 10TH AND 12TH, 22 MILLION FOR RIVER PARK. AND SO WE LOOK AT AS CONSTRUCTION SCHEDULE LIKE THAT, IF YOU HAVE TEN MONTHS TO DESIGN, TEN MONTHS TO PERMIT, YOU'RE NOT EVEN GOING TO HAVE FUNDING UNTIL 28, 29. SO TO, TO RUSH THE PROCESS, NOT LET THE NEXT 100 DAYS UNFOLD TO BE REALISTIC BECAUSE I CAN DESIGN IT, AND THEN I'M JUST SITTING ON IT FOR TWO YEARS OR A YEAR AND A HALF.

WE NEED TO REALLY BUILD THAT INTO THE COMPLEXITY OF THE FINANCING AND THE NUMBER OF PROJECTS YOU HAVE GOING.

SO THAT'S THE REASON I HAVEN'T BROUGHT BACK TO AWARD THE ENTIRE THING AND ALSO TO.

WE'VE UTILIZED THEM FOR THE PURPOSES OF THE ANY AYE GRANT APPLICATION.

SEE HOW THAT'S TAKING SHAPE. BUT I THINK SOMETIME IN THE NEXT, YOU KNOW, BY THE SECOND QUARTER OF THIS YEAR, WE'LL BE MAKING A DECISION. DO WE WANT TO AWARD IT NOW? SO BY THE TIME 23 MONTHS FROM THEN AND WE'RE READY TO AWARD THE CONTRACT, IT FALLS IN THAT 28, 29 OR 29, 30 YEARS. SO THOSE ARE REALLY THE REASONS.

BUT I THOUGHT IT WAS RELEVANT FOR YOU TO AT LEAST KNOW, ONCE WE HAD AUTHORIZED THAT PARTIAL TO GET THE ADA GRANT IN.

AND AS YOU LOOK INTO THE BUDGET IN THE NEXT ITEM, TO AT LEAST GIVE YOU AN UPDATE AS TO WHERE WE ARE.

SO TO GIVE IT SOME CONTEXT, THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THAT.

AND I GUESS THE ONE QUESTION THAT I WOULD HAVE, AND CERTAINLY NOT AS AN ARGUMENT TO ANYTHING THAT YOU HAD TO SAY, SIR, BUT PERMITTING ON A PROJECT LIKE THIS WILL TAKE REALISTICALLY 18 MONTHS.

TWO YEARS. WE'RE FOR A PROJECT LIKE THIS. WE'RE NOT ANTICIPATING AS DIFFICULT.

LIKE, IF I HEARD THE PREVIOUS PROJECT HAD MANGROVES AND A LOT OF ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERNS.

THIS ONE, OUR ENVIRONMENTAL TEAM HAS LOOKED AT THE PROJECT FROM A PERMITTING STANDPOINT AND THE PERMITTING YOU KNOW, EFFORT IS LESSER ON A STREET LIKE THIS, WHICH IS KIND OF A FULLY DEVELOPED AREA.

THERE'S NO REAL NATURAL AREAS THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH. THERE'S NO SURFACE WATERS.

IT'S, IT'S A LIGHTER EFFORT. THAT'S WHY WE'RE ANTICIPATING TEN MONTHS OF PERMITTING TEN MONTHS.

YES. SO THEY DON'T COINCIDE. OKAY. I UNDERSTAND THANK YOU FOR THAT.

YES, SIR. THIS MAY BE FOR YOU, MR. YOUNG. I DON'T KNOW.

I DON'T KNOW WHO IT'S FOR, BUT I KNOW WITH THE THE EDA GRANTS TYPICALLY ARE FOR ECONOMICALLY DISTRESSED COMMUNITIES.

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AND I'M WONDERING IF WE'RE IF THAT'S HOW WE WOULD BE ABLE TO PLUG INTO THIS.

I CAN IT DON'T MATTER. YES. SO THE APPLICATION WAS SUBMITTED BASED ON THE IMPACTS THAT WERE SUSTAINED DURING 2020 FOR MILTON AND HELENE. YEAH, THAT'S THAT WAS MY WE HAD IAN BEFORE THAT, BUT THIS ONE WAS A 2020 FOR DISASTER RELIEF.

AND IF YOU TOLD US THAT BEFORE, WHICH I'M SURE YOU DID AND I DIDN'T TAKE NOTES, GOOD, THEN I APOLOGIZE.

I HAVE TO ASK THIS QUESTION TOO. I SAW THERE ARE WE TALKING ABOUT INCREASING? WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT INCREASING DINING AND PUBLIC SPACES, ARE WE? NO. GOOD. OKAY. NO. JUST REMEMBER THOSE WERE THE 2020 CONCEPTUAL DESIGNS.

AND BEFORE WE WHEN WE CAME BACK COME BACK TO AWARD, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE THE SAME CONVERSATION.

WHAT IS IT THAT WE WE WANT ON THE AVENUE AS WELL AS EVERYTHING, NOT JUST THE BRICKS AND THE FACADE PART.

IS THIS STILL THE PLAN THAT WE WANT TO GO FORWARD WITH? SO I UNDERSTOOD, AND MY CONCERN IS INFRASTRUCTURE, CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE AND RESILIENCY.

AND I'LL LEAVE THE ESTHETICS TO WHOEVER IS REALLY GOOD AT THAT PART.

WELL, YEAH. AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE I MEAN, THINK ABOUT IT AS A CITY, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE DISCUSSIONS ON PARKING AND ALL KINDS OF OTHER THINGS THAT ARE GOING TO IMPACT THE ESTHETICS OF THAT, THE AVENUE. SO SO IT'LL BE A GOOD TIMING THING AS WELL FOR THIS TO, FOR SOME OF THIS TO AT LEAST HAVE PRELIMINARY DISCUSSIONS BEFORE.

THANK YOU. ALL GOOD QUESTIONS, MR. CROW. YEAH.

AND LOOKING AT SOME OF THE PICTURES IN THE OUTDOOR DINING IS, IS ONE THAT'S ARE WE AS FAR AS THE SECURITY PLAN ON THIS WHOLE THING? I MEAN, DINING WAS LIKE RIGHT TO THE CURB, YOU KNOW, ON SOME OF THOSE PICTURES.

SO ARE WE GOING TO HAVE ANOTHER CAMBIER PARK SITUATION HERE? WHERE WE'RE THE MOST DANGEROUS STREET IN THE COUNTRY.

YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I'M JUST THROWING IT OUT THERE.

TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION TO HAVE A SECURITY PLAN WITH THIS. YEAH.

WE'LL WE'LL BE ONCE WE GET INTO THE NEXT STEPS WHERE WE GET IT, WE HAVE YET TO HAVE A MOMENT OF TIME TO EVEN HAVE.

SIT DOWN. SORRY. SIT DOWN. MEETINGS WITH STAFF, SIT DOWN MEETINGS WITH YOU GUYS.

INVOLVE THE PUBLIC, INVOLVE THE BUSINESS OWNERS ALONG THE STREET.

SO WE'VE GOT A LONG WAY TO GO TO GET TO A DESIGN, YOU KNOW, LIKE CITY MANAGER MENTIONED THAT TO GET TO A DESIGN THAT IS REALLY GOING TO INCORPORATE SECURITY AND SECURITY WILL BE A PART OF THAT.

OKAY. SECOND THING, SUGDEN PLAZA IS IMPORTANT.

I'M JUST LOOKING AT THE PICTURE AND OBVIOUSLY THE FOUNTAINS ARE REMOVED AND, AND I KNOW WE'RE NOT INTO THE CONCEPTUAL OF THE DESIGN YET, BUT BUT IS THIS PORTRAYED THIS WAY TO MAKE IT MORE OF A OUTDOOR EVENT PLATFORM? LIKE I SEE A LOT OF A LOT OF CEMENT AND VERY LITTLE GREEN AND, AND THOSE TREES, QUITE HONESTLY, LOOK LIKE THEY'RE DYING BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT GETTING WATER.

AND, YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK THEY GET AMPLE. YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, THEY'RE REALLY THEY'RE NOT, IN GOOD, GOOD HEALTH. THOSE TREES OVER THERE. RIGHT.

SO I MEAN, IS THAT PART OF THE PLAN IS LIKE TO HAVE A LITTLE BIGGER RING SPACES AROUND THE TREE SO THEY COULD FOSTER A LITTLE BIT BETTER.

AND WE CAN CERTAINLY LOOK AT THAT. THIS TEAM WAS NOT A PART OF THE DESIGN THAT THAT THAT THOSE IMAGES CAME FROM.

THOSE WERE FROM THE 2020 EFFORT. SO WE UNDERSTAND THAT TASTES HAVE CHANGED.

YOU KNOW, THE PEOPLE WHO MADE THOSE DECISIONS MAY OR MAY NOT EVEN BE HERE.

SIX YEARS LATER. SO WE'LL BE GOING THROUGH THIS WHOLE PROCESS A LITTLE BIT AGAIN JUST TO MAKE SURE WE'VE GOT THE DESIGN RIGHT FOR TODAY.

MISTER YOUNG, YOU HAVE A COMMENT? YEAH. I'M TRYING TO KEEP US FROM GOING DOWN BECAUSE THAT'S WHY I DIDN'T WANT ANY OF THE ORIGINAL CONCEPTUAL STUFF BROUGHT INTO THIS, BECAUSE I KNEW IT WAS RIPE FOR A RABBIT HOLE TO GET DOWN TO THE DESIGN DISCUSSION.

AND I DON'T WANT TO IF WE COULD NOT DO THAT TODAY.

IT WAS JUST TO UPDATE YOU ON IT. AND THEN WE WHEN WE GET READY TO BRING IT BACK, WE'LL UPDATE.

YOU KNOW, WE'LL HAVE THIS DISCUSSION BOTH IN PUBLIC AND IN STAFF MEETINGS.

AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE IT HERE AT THE CRA MEETING.

BUT I THINK YOU ALSO IT'S RIPE TO HAVE IT AS A CITY COUNCIL MEETING AS WELL, BECAUSE THERE'LL BE DECISIONS THAT WILL BE PREDICATED ON CERTAIN THINGS AS WELL.

BECAUSE REMEMBER, THIS WILL NOT JUST BE A CRA PROJECT.

IF YOU LOOKED AT IT AS 26.5 MILLION. THAT'S IF I REMEMBER THE SLIDE CORRECTLY.

WE HAVE BUDGETED 14. JUST LIKE RIVER PARK, YOU HAVE WATER AND SANITARY SEWER LINES.

THAT'S GOING TO COME ALONG FOR PROBABLY ANOTHER 12 MILLION, MAKING UP THE THE TOTAL COST TO GET TO THAT.

SO THIS WAS THE FIRST CONVERSATION TO LET YOU KNOW WHY WE HAVEN'T BROUGHT IT TO YOU TO AWARD IT YET, BUT WE'RE STILL PURSUING IT AS WE INDICATED WE WOULD BE WITH THE EDA GRANT.

AND SO I JUST SAY THAT WE WILL COME BACK TO YOU FOR ALL THOSE DISCUSSIONS.

AND THE LAST THING I WILL SAY IS WE ALSO DID HAVE THE PRELIMINARY CONVERSATION WITH THE BID AND EVERYTHING RELATED TO CONSTRUCTION AND THE PHASE IN BUY BLOCKS WAS IN FULL AGREEMENT WITH EVERYONE THAT THE ONLY WAY WE COULD POSSIBLY DO IT WAS TO HAVE THE PHASE,

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SO THAT DISCUSSION HAPPENED LONG BEFORE KIMLEY-HORN WAS EVEN INVOLVED.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE, YOU KNOW, THAT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE OPINION OF EVERYBODY IN THE ROOM WHEN WE CHANGED IT FROM A STREETSCAPE PROJECT TO A FULL INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECT. OKAY. YOU ALL RIGHT? MR.. YES. THIS IS AN IMPORTANT PART OF THE PLAN IN GENERAL TO ME.

SO, YEAH. AND, MR. COLE, I DON'T DISAGREE. I JUST ALSO WANTED YOU TO KNOW WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY FOR THAT WHEN WE COME BACK AND WHEN WE GET EVEN BEFORE WE AWARD, WE CAN HAVE PRELIMINARY DISCUSSIONS ON THAT.

WE'RE JUST RIGHT NOW TRYING TO GET SOME GRANT MONEY OR IT OR BRING IT BACK TO YOU AND THEN START THE PROCESS FROM SOLELY CR.

GOT IT. AND MAYOR, YOU HAVE A QUESTION? YES, AND I'M TRYING TO TAKE THE ADVICE OF NOT GOING DOWN THE RABBIT HOLE, BECAUSE THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I WAS ABOUT TO DO.

BUT I, I CANNOT READ THE SCHEDULE. AND MINE'S PRINTED.

SO SOMEHOW WE, WE ALL NEED TO BE ABLE TO SEE A BETTER TIMELINE.

I LOOK, I'M TRYING NOT TO DO IT, BUT I'LL JUST GIVE YOU THESE COMMENTS.

THE SIXTH STREET INTERSECTION IS VERY INTERESTING TO ME.

I HOPE THAT WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS THAT. AND THEN THE CANOPY TREES YOU KNOW, ARE WE GOING TO CONTINUE WITH THE HARBOR TREES? YEAH. THANK YOU. THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT THINGS THAT WE NEED TO KNOW.

I KNOW WE HAD A ROYAL POINCIANA CHOP DOWN ON SIX AT ONE POINT AND NO ONE REALLY UNDERSTOOD WHY. AND SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT THAT WHOLE SIXTH STREET INTERSECTION AT ALMOST $1 MILLION.

WHAT, WHAT THAT'S ALL ABOUT. BUT I UNDERSTAND IT'S COMING BACK.

I'M INTERESTED IN THE FACT THAT THE 2020 VISION RECAP OF PERMEABLE PAVERS IS FOR VEHICLE, PAVEMENT AND LANDING ZONES, BUT NOT FOR SIDEWALK PAVERS OR AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ACCENT BANDS ARE, BUT AGAIN, I HOPE THESE ARE THE DETAILS WE'RE GOING TO GO INTO.

AND THEN THE, ALSO THE DINING SPACE PROPOSED AS COUNCIL MEMBER KRAMER WAS SAYING IT'S AN EIGHT INCH, AND EIGHT FOOT WALKWAY TO 9.5IN. A LANDSCAPING AREA IS THAT INCREASING THROUGHOUT ALL OF THE STREET OR JUST THE AREAS WHERE THERE IS DINING? AND THEN THERE'S ANOTHER TWO FEET I. THAT'S BETWEEN THE ROAD AND THE DINING.

AND THEN THERE'S NINE FEET. AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT IS AT MORE TOWARDS THE PARKING.

IS THAT PARKING SPACES ARE NINE FEET. I'M LOOKING AT THE DINING SPACES PROPOSED.

YES. THAT WAS THE NINE FEET. AND WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT HERE WAS WHAT WAS CONSIDERED WITH THE G.

A STUDY IN 2020 BASED ON CITY COUNCIL'S DISCUSSIONS ON OUTDOOR DINING AND ANY DECISIONS YOU MAKE ON THAT, THE NEW DESIGN WILL REFLECT WHAT THE CITY COUNCIL DIRECTION IS ON OUTDOOR DINING AND PAID PARKING, AND OTHER MEASURES THAT CITY COUNCIL MAY TAKE UP BEFORE THIS GOES TO FULL DESIGN.

AND WHERE ARE WE IN THE DESIGN PHASE? AGAIN, I'M SORRY WE ARE NOT THERE YET.

WE ARE AT THE PHASE OF WAITING FOR THE GRANT TO COME BACK.

AND THEN ONCE WE UNDERSTAND WHAT THE GRANT IS AND WHAT THE, THE BUDGET ALLOCATIONS NEED TO BE THE REMAINDER OF THE CONTRACT CAN BE CONSIDERED AT THAT TIME. AND THEN JUST SO YOU KNOW, MY HIGHLIGHTS, TO PUT A FINER POINT ON IT, WE HAVEN'T AUTHORIZED THE CONTRACT TO DESIGN ONE SINGLE THING YET. WE IT'S GOING TO COME BACK TO TO ASSIST US WITH THE ADA GRANT.

THERE'S BEEN NOTHING BEING DESIGNED, EVEN BASED ON THE CONCEPTUAL.

THIS WAS JUST BRINGING FORWARD. SO YOU AT LEAST REMEMBERED WHAT IT WAS THAT THE 2020 HAD SAID.

SO THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION. AND JUST MY FAVORITE TOPIC IS MOBILITY ENHANCEMENTS.

WE NEED TO COMPLETE HOW WE'RE GOING TO HANDLE MOBILITY BEFORE WE GO INTO MAKING SURE WE CAN ACCOMMODATE THOSE ENHANCEMENTS.

BUT I THANK YOU FOR THE UPDATE. AND WHEN DID YOU SAY THAT WE MIGHT.

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IT'S IT'S BEING REVIEWED AND ASSESSED ON A ROLLING BASIS.

WE SUBMITTED BASED ON WHEN WE SUBMITTED OUR GRANTS TEAM IS SAYING THAT THEY'RE EXPECTING AT THE AT THE LATEST EARLY 2027.

SO IT COULD IT COULD HAPPEN EARLIER THAN THAT. BUT AT THE LATEST, YOU KNOW, NOT TO SET EXPECTATIONS TOO HIGH.

LOOKING AT EARLY 2027 IS PROBABLY THE MORE REALISTIC TARGET.

THANK YOU. YOU'RE OKAY, MR. SCHULTZ. YEAH. WE WERE ASKED NOT TO GO DOWN ANY RABBIT HOLES, AND WE JUST SPENT TEN MINUTES GOING DOWN RABBIT HOLES.

IT'S GOING TO COME BACK TO US WHEN IT COMES BACK TO US. BUT THEY REQUESTED THAT WE NOT GO DOWN THIS WAY.

AND YOU ACKNOWLEDGE. OH, BELIEVE YOU ME, SIR, I COULD HAVE GONE DOWN MORE.

YOU COULD HAVE. BUT IT'S NOT THE POINT. HE ASKED US NOT TO.

PLEASE DO. EXCUSE ME, MR. POPE. WE'RE FINE. SHE HAS A RIGHT TO ASK QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THAT SHOULD BE UNIVERSAL. THANK YOU, SIR.

JUST A QUESTION. TO UNDERSTAND THE SCALE OF THE PROJECT AND HOW IT FACTORS INTO THAT NEXT BUDGET DISCUSSION.

SO THE VERY PRELIMINARY ESTIMATE OF THE COST IS 26 MILLION.

WE PUT IN FOR A GRANT OF 21 MILLION. SO THAT IMPLIES THE CITY CONTRIBUTION OF 5 MILLION.

BUT ON THE CIP IT HAS 14 MILLION. SO IS THERE SOMETHING ELSE INCLUDED OR.

IT'S JUST IT'S ALL JUST VERY PRELIMINARY. WE'RE STILL PLANNING ON THIS.

AS IF IF YOU RECALL, DURING THE CIP, YOU ASKED SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE WE HAD HAD IT REMOVED AND YOU SAID, COULD YOU PLEASE OR PUSHED IT BACK? AND YOU HAD SAID, COULD YOU PLEASE MAKE SURE IT'S THERE SO THAT IT DOESN'T WE WE KNOW WE'RE STILL WORKING ON IT. SO THIS ASSUMES THAT YOU. 14 MILLION IS COMING FROM THE CARA FOR THE STREETSCAPE AND STORMWATER PORTION.

AND THE WATER SEWER WOULD HAVE IT. IT'S IN ITS BUDGET.

IF IN FACT WE DO GET A GRANT, THEN WE WOULD HAVE TO SAY HOW MUCH IS COVERING? WE'D STILL DO A PROPORTIONAL SPLIT OF THE PROJECT AND LET THE GRANT COVER.

SO BOTH SIDES BENEFIT TO WHAT EXTENT THAT IS.

BUT I THINK AND IF I'M WRONG, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO TELL ME.

BUT EVEN IF WE GET A NO ON THE GRANT, WE STILL NEED TO PURSUE THIS PROJECT.

AND THAT'S WHY IT'S LISTED IN THE BUDGET AS IN THOSE OUT THERE.

YEAH. AND THAT WAS AT YOUR REQUEST ACTUALLY AT THE MEETING, BECAUSE WE HAD PUSHED IT OUT AND YOU SAID, CAN WE LEAVE IT THERE? AND THAT'S WHY WE DID IT.

YEAH. I JUST WANTED TO SEE IF THE NUMBERS COULD BE RECONCILED.

THEY'RE STILL REALLY CLOSE. TO MAKE AN ADJUSTMENT TO IT WOULDN'T BE NECESSARY BECAUSE AGAIN, ONCE YOU SPLIT ON THE FUNDS AND THE DISTRIBUTION, IT CAN GO A COUPLE BOTH WAYS.

BUT AS HE INDICATED, WE'LL BE LOOKING AT WATER LINES, SANITARY SEWER LINES, STORMWATER AND STREETSCAPE.

EVEN IF YOU ASSUME STREETSCAPE AND STORMWATER SLIGHTLY ABOVE THE THE THE MIDWAY POINT ON 26 MILLION.

I THINK IT'S REASONABLE. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU. OKAY. MOVING ALONG.

ANITA. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. THE NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA EIGHT A IS NEW BUSINESS.

[8.A) A Resolution of the Naples Community Redevelopment Agency (CRA) of the City of Naples, Florida, Approving the CRA Budget for Fiscal Year 2026-27; Recommending that the Naples City Council Adopt the CRA Budget; and Providing an Effective Date.]

AND SO I'M NOT REMISS FORGETTING. I WILL LET YOU KNOW THAT THE CRAB REVIEWED THIS BUDGET AT THEIR LAST MEETING.

AND THEY DID MAKE A RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL AS PRESENTED.

OKAY, SO I'LL GO THROUGH THIS PRESENTATION FOR YOU AND FEEL FREE TO STOP ME AT ANY TIME IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION.

SO FIRST OF ALL, FOR OUR NEW MEMBERS, THIS IS A REQUIREMENT OF THE CRA ANNUALLY THAT YOU ESTABLISH A CRA ANNUAL BUDGET. YOU WILL THEN BE BY MOTION, APPROVING THAT BUDGET AND MAKING A RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL TO ADOPT THE BUDGET. THE CITY COUNCIL HAS THE FINAL ADOPTION OF THE OF THE BUDGET WITHIN YOUR OVERALL CITY BUDGET.

SO AFTER EXPENSES ARE ALLOCATED, THERE ARE THREE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO KEEP IN MIND FOR OUR PROJECTS.

AND ONE IS THAT THE PROJECT HAS TO BE WITHIN THE REDEVELOPMENT AREA.

CRA FUNDS MAY NOT BE SPENT ON THE OUTSIDE OF THE BOUNDARY THAT YOU SEE ON THE SCREEN BEFORE YOU THAT IS OUTLINED IN BLUE.

THE SECOND REQUIREMENT IS THAT THE PROJECT IS AUTHORIZED UNDER STATE STATUTES.

THE STATE STATUTES WERE AMENDED IN 2019, AND IT IS VERY SPECIFIC OF WHAT CRAS CAN AND CANNOT SPEND FUNDING FOR.

THIS CRA, AS WELL AS CITY COUNCIL, HAS THE PRIORITY OF IMPROVING INFRASTRUCTURE, AND THAT IS WELL IN LINE WITH STATE STATUTES.

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SO WHEN THE STAFF MEETS AND WE TALK ABOUT THESE PROJECTS, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THAT WE DO.

SO WE CAN BRING TO YOU PROJECTS THAT ARE QUALIFIED.

SO THE BEGINNING WITH OUR PROPOSED BUDGET AND THE TOTAL AVAILABLE RESOURCES, I'LL LET YOU KNOW THAT FROM WHAT WAS IN YOUR AGENDA PACKETS TO WHAT'S PRESENTED RIGHT HERE. THIS 37/30 $7 MILLION THAT WAS UPDATED.

I HAD A TYPO IN THERE. AND SO I WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE HAD THE RIGHT NUMBERS, BECAUSE I KNOW WE HAVE A COUPLE OF FINANCE WHIZZES ON, ON THE BOARD. SO I WANT TO ANSWER THE QUESTION BEFORE IT WAS ASKED.

SO THE TOTAL AVAILABLE RESOURCES THAT ARE ANTICIPATED, THIS IS ALL DEPENDENT ON MILLAGE RATES OF BOTH THE CITY AND THE COUNTY.

AND SO IF THOSE CHANGE FROM WHAT IS IN YOUR PROPOSED DOCUMENT, THAT OVERALL NUMBER MAY CHANGE.

WE EXPECT A FUND BALANCE IN SEPTEMBER 30TH OF 26 OF OVER 24 MILLION.

AND THAT IS DUE IN PART TO THE WEIGHT ON OUR CONSTRUCTION TO START FORWARD ON THE FIRST 10TH STREET PROJECT.

WE HAD A GREAT AMOUNT OF MONEY THERE, AND THAT'S GOING TO BE PAST OUR SEPTEMBER DATE THAT WE'LL START THAT PROJECT.

SO WE'LL THAT GOES INTO OUR FUND BALANCE. THE CURRENT TAXABLE VALUE WITHIN THE CRA IS OVER $2.8 BILLION.

THAT'S A 3.7% INCREASE FROM LAST YEAR, THE YEAR BEFORE, IT WAS OVER 10% INCREASE.

SO YOU CAN SEE THE DIFFERENCE YEAR OVER YEAR.

THE TOTAL PROJECTED REVENUE FOR FY 2627 IS JUST OVER 12 MILLION, AND THAT IS PART OF THE TAX INCREMENT FINANCING FROM BOTH THE CITY AT OVER 3.3 MILLION.

AND THEN THE COUNTY AT OVER 8.2 MILLION. IF NOT FOR THE CRA, THE 8.2 MILLION WOULD GO BACK TO COLLIER COUNTY AND WOULD NOT BE USED IN DOWNTOWN CITY OF NAPLES. WE HAD A UNIQUE TRANSFER IN THIS YEAR OF OVER 500,000 OF $500,000, AND THAT WAS IN RELATION TO THE STORMWATER EASEMENT THAT THE CITY COUNCIL MADE A DECISION ON FOR A PROJECT THAT'S WITHIN NAPLES SQUARE.

THEY NEEDED A WAY TO VACATE AN EASEMENT THERE OR TO GET AN EASEMENT THERE FOR THEIR BUILDING.

AND SO IN DOING THAT THEY MADE A CONTRIBUTION TO YOUR FIRST 12TH, 10TH STREET PROJECT FOR STORMWATER IN THE AMOUNT OF $500,000. THE CRA IS FUNDING THE STORMWATER ON THAT PROJECT.

SO THIS WAS STORMWATER RELATED. AND IT COMES TO THE CRA FUND TO PAY FOR CONSTRUCTION IN PART OF THAT PROJECT.

SO THAT'S WHAT THE TRANSFER IN IS. AND THEN YOU HAVE AN INTEREST INCOME OF 500,000.

YOUR BUDGETED EXPENSES THAT ARE PROPOSED FOR 2627 ARE JUST OVER 26 MILLION.

IN THIS PIE CHART IS REALLY THERE TO DEMONSTRATE THAT THE MAGNITUDE OF WHAT YOU'RE SPENDING ON CAPITAL PROJECTS, IT'S OVER 87% OF YOUR OVERALL BUDGET IS SPENT ON CAPITAL PROJECTS.

AND THAT IS GOING ALONG WITH YOUR PRIORITIES OF INFRASTRUCTURE TO A GREAT DEAL.

IN PERSONNEL SERVICES, WE FUND 7.35 EMPLOYEES, AND THAT IS WITHIN YOUR ADMINISTRATION AND THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE COMMUNITY SERVICES, WE FUND THREE POSITIONS OF LANDSCAPE TECHNICIANS THAT ARE WORKING SOLELY WITHIN THE CRA, AND THEN WE ALSO FUND THREE COMMUNITY POLICING OFFICERS WITHIN THE CRA AS WELL.

FOR THE THE BUDGET ITSELF. IT'S BROKEN DOWN TO THOSE THREE DISTINCT DIVISIONS OF CITY ADMINISTRATION, COMMUNITY SERVICE AND COMMUNITY POLICING. SO LOOKING AT YOUR CRA ADMINISTRATION IN OUR PERSONNEL EXPENSES WE'RE FUNDING 1.35 EMPLOYEES. AND THAT IS MYSELF, A LITTLE BIT OF OUR CITY MANAGER'S TIME, A LITTLE BIT OF A DEPUTY CITY MANAGER'S TIME AND A LITTLE BIT OF A COORDINATOR'S TIME.

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WE HAVE OPERATING EXPENSES OF JUST OVER $600,000, AND THE NON OPERATING AND CAPITAL EXPENSES IS CATEGORIZED UNDER YOUR ADMINISTRATION. SO THAT'S PRIMARILY YOUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS ALONG WITH YOUR BAE.

DOWN ON THE BOND FOR THE FIRST AVENUE SOUTH GARAGE IS ALSO IN THERE.

AND THAT'S YOUR DEBT SERVICE THAT IS INDICATED ON THE SCREEN RIGHT NOW.

YOU'LL SEE THAT THAT WE WILL BE PAYING THAT BOND DOWN FOR THAT FIRST AVENUE SOUTH CONSTRUCTION THROUGH 2034.

AND THAT BOND WILL THEN MATURE AT THAT RATE. SO WE SPEND JUST OVER $1 MILLION A YEAR UNTIL THAT'S PAID IN FULL.

AND SO THAT'S ALWAYS REPRESENTED IN YOUR BUDGET.

YOUR COMMUNITY SERVICES DIVISION RIGHT NOW IS BUDGETED AT JUST OVER $300,000.

AND THAT'S PRIMARILY IN PERSONNEL AND OPERATING EXPENSES THIS YEAR.

WE HAVE PREVIOUSLY IN THE IN THE LAST YEAR, WE PURCHASED A A TRUCK WITH A MINI DUMP ON IT TO HELP SUPPORT THOSE LANDSCAPE TECHNICIANS IN THEIR WORK. THIS YEAR, WE DO NOT HAVE ANY CAPITAL EXPENDITURES FOR COMMUNITY SERVICES.

THE SAME WITH COMMUNITY POLICING. THIS AMOUNT OF JUST OVER $700,000 IS SUPPORTING THE PERSONNEL AND THE OPERATING.

WE HAVE PREVIOUSLY, IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS PURCHASED THREE POLICE VEHICLES FOR THE THREE COMMUNITY POLICE OFFICERS.

AND THIS YEAR, THERE ARE NO CAPITAL EXPENSES RELATED TO THAT DIVISION.

SO THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS THAT ARE WITHIN YOUR PROPOSED CRA BUDGET.

THIS HAS BEEN PRESENTED TO YOU IN DISCUSSION TO MAKE SURE WE'RE BRINGING SOMETHING TO YOU THAT YOU'VE ALREADY SEEN.

SO YOU'LL SEE THAT IN THE COMING YEAR OF 2627, THE 18.5 MILLION IS FOR CONSTRUCTION OF FIRST, 12TH AND 10TH, AND THAT COVERS STORM WATER AND AND THE STREETS.

THE UTILITY WILL BE PAID BY THE UTILITY FUND FOR ALL THE UTILITY WORKS THAT'S NEEDED.

WE'RE MAINTAINING THE 3 MILLION FOR THE NAPLES DESIGN DISTRICT IMPROVEMENTS, AND THAT WOULD INCLUDE THE DESIGN WALK PROJECT THAT WILL BRING BACK TO YOU WHEN WE'RE READY TO GO TO CONSTRUCTION WITH FIRST AVENUE SOUTH BECAUSE OF THE RELATIONSHIPS OF THAT PROJECT.

WE ALSO HAVE MAINTAINED IN THIS BUDGET THE FIFTH AVENUE SOUTH AND SUGDEN PLAZA IMPROVEMENTS AT 1.1 MILLION, AND THAT WILL BE FOR THE DESIGN CONTRACT. SO WHEN WE ARE WHEN WE HEAR BACK FROM THE EDA WHETHER THAT GRANT IS AWARDED OR NOT, WE ARE READY TO GO TO FULL DESIGN ON THAT PROJECT, AND IT'S FUNDED FOR THAT PURPOSE.

AND YOU'LL SEE THE 14 MILLION LB IN 2829 FOR THE CRA'S CONTRIBUTION FOR CONSTRUCTION OF THAT PROJECT.

FINALLY, WE HAVE THE NEIGHBORHOOD PLANS PROJECTS AT $250,000 FOR THIS YEAR, AND WE HAVE BEEN FOCUSING IN ON THE RIVER PARK, EAST RIVER PARK WEST INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS, AS WELL AS THE DESIGN DISTRICT.

THE ONLY NEIGHBORHOOD THAT YOU HAVE REMAINING IS LAKE PARK.

SO WE'LL BE WORKING WITH PUBLIC WORKS AND OUR OTHER DIVISIONS TO IDENTIFY A PROJECT THAT WOULD BE OF BENEFIT AND IS WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD PLANS THEMSELVES TO LOOK AT THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. OTHER THAN THAT, GOING FORWARD IN THE OUT YEARS, YOU CAN SEE THAT WE'RE MAINTAINING SOME FUNDING FOR THE NAPLES DESIGN DISTRICT IMPROVEMENTS TO IMPLEMENT THAT MASTER PLAN THAT WAS ACCEPTED BACK IN 22.

WE HAVE THE, OF COURSE, THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE FIFTH AVENUE AND SUGDEN PLAZA AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD PLANS.

WE ALSO HAVE THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE MULTI BASIN IMPROVEMENTS.

RIVER PARK WEST. IF YOU'LL RECALL, IN MARCH OF THIS YEAR, THE CRA REPRIORITIZED CAPITAL PROJECTS AND RIVER PARK EAST AND RIVER PARK WEST WAS WERE TOP PRIORITIES TO HELP WITH THE INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS IN THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS.

THOSE ARE THE RIVER PARK EAST PROJECT. I'LL UPDATE YOU ON THAT WHEN I GET TO THE ADMINISTRATOR'S REPORT.

BUT WE'RE CLOSE WITH A CONTRACT ON THAT. SO WHAT YOU SEE IN 2728 FOR RIVER PARK WEST AT OVER 5 MILLION IN RIVER PARK WEST OR

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THIS THE 22 MILLION IN PARTICULAR, THAT NUMBER AND WHETHER WE NEED TO GO OUT FOR A SHORT TERM LOAN ON THAT OR NOT, WILL ALL DEPEND ON THE TIMING OF THAT DESIGN.

AS AS WE'VE HEARD, THE DESIGN OF THESE PROJECTS CAN TAKE LONGER THAN A YEAR.

SO WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT RIVER PARK EAST AND DESIGNING STORMWATER UTILITIES AND STREETS AND PUMP STATIONS IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, A FULL REDESIGN OF OF INFRASTRUCTURE. THE DESIGN TIMELINE MAY EXTEND THAT PAST THE THE 2728 BUDGET YEAR FOR THAT CONSTRUCTION. SO THAT THAT TIMING WILL DEPEND ON IF WE NEED TO DO A SHORT TERM LOAN OR NOT ON THAT, IT MAY NEED TO TO PUSH OUT TO 2829 JUST AGAIN, DEPENDING ON THE DESIGN AND WHAT WE'RE READY TO GO FORWARD WITH.

AND THAT IS THAT IS YOUR PROPOSED BUDGET. FOR 2627.

I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AGAIN. BOARD.

MEMBERS. THIS IS AN ACTION ITEM. SO WE DO AFTER YOUR DISCUSSION AND YOUR QUESTIONS NEED MOTIONS TO APPROVE AND RECOMMEND TO CITY COUNCIL WITH ANY CHANGES THAT YOU MAY HAVE.

CAN I, CAN I ADD JUST TWO ITEMS TO THIS? SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT FROM THE TIMING COULD YOU GO BACK TO THE SCREEN ON THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PLEASE? SO AS SHE INDICATED, IT TAKES IN ABOUT 12 MILLION A YEAR.

IF YOU GO TO THE FRONT PAGE IN THAT ON THAT IT WAS ESTIMATED JUST OVER $11 MILLION.

THAT WILL BE THE FUND BALANCE. AND THAT'S MAKING THE ASSUMPTION THAT WE HIT THE 18.5 ET-CETERA IS.

WHAT I WANT YOU TO KNOW IS WE LEFT THE 3 MILLION IN THE DESIGN DISTRICT IMPROVEMENTS BECAUSE THEY ARE COMPONENT OF THE FIRST, 10TH AND 12TH. IN THE SAME TOKEN, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE TRUE DESIGN.

WE'RE HEDGING AGAINST THAT IN CASE THAT 18.5 ISN'T ENOUGH, BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO FINISH ALL THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND ALL THE ROADS BEFORE WE GET INTO THE THE DESIGN DISTRICT IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE MORE ESTHETIC IN NATURE OTHER THAN THE STREETSCAPE ITSELF.

SO I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT THAT'S HEDGING AGAINST WHAT THAT NUMBER BEING RIGHT, WHICH IS WHICH IS PRUDENT AT THIS POINT.

THE OTHER PART OF THAT IS IF YOU END THE YEAR AT 2627 WITH THESE NUMBERS BUDGETED BECAUSE OF HOW MUCH WE'VE BEEN HOLDING FOR THE FIRST, 10TH AND 12TH PROJECTS, YOU HAVE ROUGHLY 11.3 MILLION, WHICH NOT INCLUDED IN THAT IS THE 500 000 GRANT REIMBURSEMENT WE HAVE FROM THE STATE COMING AS IT PERTAINS TO THE DESIGN OF THE RIVER PARK.

SO THAT WILL ALSO BE A REVENUE ENHANCEMENT. WE HAVE DOWNWARD PRESSURE POTENTIALLY FROM PROPERTY TAXES.

SO WE HAVE TO WAIT AND SEE ON THAT. BUT EVEN AT 12 MILLION A YEAR AND THE OPERATIONAL BUDGET AND THE DEBT, THAT STILL LEAVES YOU WITH 8.7. SO WHAT SHE WAS ALLUDING TO IS THAT IF YOU TAKE 11.3 AND 8.7, YOU'RE AT 19 MILLION AND THE BUDGET IS SITS AT SAID, 26 FOR 85 FOR 27, 28.

SO IF IT COMES IN EXACTLY IN THAT TIMING, THAT WOULD DENOTE THAT YOU'RE STILL LOOKING SOMEWHERE $9 MILLION THAT YOU'VE GOT TO FUND.

BUT IF IT'S EVEN DELAYED EIGHT MONTHS FROM THEN, YOU REALLY PICK UP ANOTHER 8.7 AND 28, 29.

SO WE COULD HAVE A SHORT TERM GAP. BUT THAT'S ALSO WHY BEING REALISTIC ABOUT FIFTH IN THE SENSE IS WE WOULDN'T HAVE THE MONEY TO GO DO IT WITHOUT BORROWING THE ENTIRE THING, NO MATTER WHAT. IF I STARTED DESIGN TOMORROW.

SO THE TIMING OF THESE, IT ACTUALLY IS PRUDENT TO SEE WHERE WE ARE.

LET SOME OF THE GRANT COME IN. AND THEN YOU COULD HAVE A SHORT TERM IF WE GET TO THAT POINT ON THE RIVER PARK EAST.

BUT AGAIN AT THE REVENUES THAT WE HAVE, WHEN YOU LOOK IN YEARS 2930 AND 20, 30, 31 OF ONLY HAVING 2.1 AND 2.4, YOU'VE LEFT THAT ROOM FOR THE FIFTH AVENUE TO BE FINANCED, EVEN INTERNALLY ON A SHORT TERM BASIS.

SO THE POINT IS, YOUR CAPITAL PROJECTS, AS THEY'RE DEPICTED ON YOUR SCREEN, THEY'RE LEAVES THE MARGIN.

EVEN IF THINGS SHIFT BY A 12 MONTH PERIOD, YOUR REVENUES WOULD GUARANTEE YOU ONLY REALLY NEED A SHORT TERM BORROWING AT BEST, PROVIDED WE DON'T GO IN A DIFFERENT DIRECTION AND TAKE ON, YOU KNOW, OTHER PRIORITIES.

AND WE CONTINUE TO TO MAKE THESE INFRASTRUCTURE PRIORITIES AS THE NUMBER ONE PRIORITIES OF THE CRA.

THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO ADD. THANK YOU. OKAY. THE ADA GRANT, IS THAT A REIMBURSEMENT AFTER THE FACT? SO WE'D HAVE TO SPEND THE MONEY AND THEN GET REIMBURSED.

TYPICALLY THOSE AREN'T THEY'LL THEY'LL ALLOW DRAWINGS.

THEY'RE MORE LIKE A FEMA BASE WHERE YOU YOU WOULD ENCUMBER IT AND THEN YOU WOULD DO DRAWS, MAKE APPLICATIONS. AND SO YEAH, SO IT WOULDN'T REQUIRE ALL THE ADVANCED FUNDING AND THAT.

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AND THEN ON THE RIVER PARK EAST INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE PLANNED FOR THE FOLLOWING YEAR.

ARE WE MAKING A LEGISLATIVE APPROPRIATION REQUEST THIS YEAR FOR SOME OF THAT? YES. BECAUSE AND THAT'S THE GOOD PART ABOUT THEM HAVING HELPED PAY FOR THE.

THE QUESTION WILL BE IS WHETHER IT'S. WE CAN ASK FOR IT THIS YEAR.

IT MAY NOT BE FULLY BAKED ENOUGH THAT IT WOULD ACTUALLY BE THE FOLLOWING YEAR, BUT WE'LL PUT IT IN, YOU KNOW, JUST AS A MATTER OF REPETITIVENESS.

SO WE DON'T FORGET ABOUT IT. BUT I CAN SEE THEM SAYING IT'S PROBABLY A YEAR EARLY JUST BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A DESIGN YET.

AND, AND THAT'S WHAT ANITA WAS ALLUDING TO. SHE'LL BRIEF YOU ON THAT IN THE MANAGER'S REPORT AS TO WHEN YOU CAN EXPECT THAT TO AWARD THAT CONTRACT.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? SHALL WE ADDRESS THAT QUESTION NOW? THE LEGISLATIVE REQUEST FOR RIVER PARK EAST IS THERE.

CAN YOU COMMENT ON THAT? DO YOU HAVE ANY KNOWLEDGE ON OF THAT.

THE LEGISLATIVE REQUEST WILL COME TO CITY COUNCIL, AND THE MANAGER WILL BE PREPARING YOUR LEGISLATIVE REQUEST.

SO THAT WILL BE PART OF THAT FORTHCOMING LETTER THAT WILL BE FORTHCOMING AT AT THE CITY COUNCIL LEVEL.

OKAY. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? YES. WITH NO FURTHER QUESTIONS, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THIS BUDGET AS PRESENTED.

SECOND. I'LL SECOND AND RECOMMEND THAT CITY COUNCIL APPROVE IT.

THAT'S THE SECOND PART. YES. THANKS. ALL RIGHT.

CITY COUNCIL APPROVED SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE.

AND OPPOSED. MOTION PASSES. OKAY. FURTHER, I THINK.

ANITA, WHERE ARE WE? HERE. NINE AYE YOUR REPORT.

[9) CRA ADMINISTRATOR'S REPORT]

BUT THERE ARE A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT I'D LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT FOR YOU.

AND I HAVE ONE REQUEST AS WELL. IN THE CRA ADMINISTRATOR'S REPORT, THE FIRST THING THAT I WANT TO LET YOU KNOW ABOUT IS THAT STAFF REGULARLY MEETS WITH OUR DESIGN DISTRICT ASSOCIATION MEMBERS AND THE FIFTH AVENUE BID ASSOCIATION AS WELL. AND AS HIGHLIGHTED IN THE ADMINISTRATOR'S REPORT AND ONE OF OUR RECENT MEETINGS WITH THE NAPLES DESIGN DISTRICT ASSOCIATION, WE WERE MADE AWARE THAT THERE ARE MEMBERS IN THAT ASSOCIATION THAT ARE INTERESTED IN EXPLORING THE CREATION OF A BUSINESS IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT.

THE BUSINESS IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT IS AT THE AUTHORITY OF CITY COUNCIL.

SO THAT'S WHY I'M MAKING YOU AWARE OF IT, THAT IT MAY COME AFTER THEY GATHER ENOUGH INFORMATION.

IF THEY MAKE THE DETERMINATION THAT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT THEY'RE INTERESTED IN AND THEY WANT TO COME TALK TO YOU ABOUT THAT.

THAT WOULD BE AT THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING, NOT AT NOT AT A CRA MEETING.

THE CRA IS NOT THE THE AUTHORIZING BODY OF A BUSINESS IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT, BUT THAT THEY ARE GATHERING INFORMATION ON THAT PROCESS AND IDEAS. AND AT A FUTURE CITY COUNCIL MEETING, THEY MAY REQUEST THE CITY MANAGER TO TO SEE IF THEY COULD GET THAT ON AN AGENDA ITEM IN THE FUTURE. OKAY. SECONDLY, I WANTED TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON THE RIVER PARK EAST INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECT.

WE DID PUT THAT OUT TO BID SOME MONTHS AGO. AND WE DID RECEIVE TWO PROPOSALS ON THAT.

THE SELECTION COMMITTEE MADE A RECOMMENDATION TO NEGOTIATE A CONTRACT WITH PAT DAWSON.

AND THAT CONTRACT IS NEGOTIATED. AND WE JUST RECEIVED IT BACK UNDER ATTORNEY REVIEW TODAY.

SO THAT IS TO AGAIN DESIGN THE INFRASTRUCTURE OF RIVER PARK, STORMWATER UTILITIES AND STREETS WITH PUMP STATIONS IN THAT AREA. SO WE HAVE THE CONTRACT. IT WASN'T ABLE TO GET ON TODAY'S AGENDA.

SO WE'D LIKE TO REQUEST A SPECIAL MEETING FOLLOWING YOUR CITY COUNCIL MEETING ON SEPTEMBER 14TH AT THE CITY MANAGER'S APPROVAL. SO I'LL I'LL LET THE CITY MANAGER TALK TO YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT PROCESS AND WHEN IT COULD FIT ON THAT AGENDA,

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YEAH. AND SPECIFICALLY, THE REASON WE CHOSE THE 14TH, AS YOU KNOW, AT 505 TODAY, WE HAVE FIRST HEARING ON THE 16TH.

WELL, FIRST OF ALL, LET ME LEVEL SET. WE'VE BEEN IN FINAL STAGES OF NEGOTIATIONS, WORKING ON THE AGREEMENT AND BACK AND FORTH IN THE LAST SEVEN DAYS, HOPEFULLY TRYING TO GET IT TO THIS AGENDA. WE JUST COULDN'T DO IT.

SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE ASKING FOR THE MEETING. THE REASON I'M ASKING FOR THE 14TH IS I DON'T WANT TO ADD IT AFTER THE 16TH MEETING, BECAUSE YOU ALREADY HAVE A 505 THERE THAT WOULD PUT THREE DIFFERENT MEETINGS.

AND IF ONE OVERRUNS, IT PUTS IT AT A PROBLEM FOR THAT DAY.

SO WHAT I MY THOUGHT WAS WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A WORKSHOP.

AND IF WE CAN ADD A C.R.A. MEETING AT THE END OF THAT, THEN THE CRA CAN TAKE ACTION TO AWARD THE RIVER PARK CONTRACT AT THAT TIME.

AND THEN LIKEWISE, WE'LL HAVE THE 16TH WHERE YOU ACTUALLY VOTE ON IT, AS WELL AS PART OF COUNCIL.

AND THE REASON BOTH WOULD BE REQUIRED IS BECAUSE YOU HAVE THE C R, A COMPONENT FOR THE STORMWATER IN INFRASTRUCTURE AND ROADWAYS, AND YOU HAVE THE WATER SANITARY SEWER AS IT PERTAINS TO THE UTILITIES.

SO THAT IS THE REASON THAT WE WOULD NEED BOTH TO ADOPT IT.

AND IF THIS BODY IS WILLING, THEN THAT WOULD BE A GOOD TIME.

WHAT WE WOULD DO THEN AT THAT POINT, BECAUSE FIRST OF ALL, IN ORDER TO PUBLISH THE 16TH, I HAVE TO GET EVERYTHING READY BY TOMORROW.

BUT I WILL SAY IN ORDER TO ACCOMPLISH BOTH, IF I HAD TO DO A SUPPLEMENT FOR BOTH, BECAUSE FIRST OF ALL, IF WE SCHEDULE THE MEETING, YOU'LL GET A SUPPLEMENT NO LATER THAN THURSDAY OR I MEAN AN AGENDA NO LATER FOR THURSDAY, FOR THE 14TH MEETING WITH A SINGLE ITEM. AND THEN WE WOULD ALSO POST A SUPPLEMENT FOR THE 16TH SO THAT YOU CAN VOTE ON IT AS COUNCIL.

AND THE REASON WE DO THAT IS BECAUSE IF WE DON'T DO IT, THEN WE'RE AT OCTOBER 7TH, AND WE REALLY WANT TO GET IT ENCUMBERED.

AND IN THIS YEAR AND EXECUTED IN THIS FISCAL YEAR.

AND THAT'S THE REASON I'M ASKING FOR THE SPECIAL MEETING TO GET THIS UNDERWAY.

DO YOU DO YOU NEED. SORRY, SIR. DO YOU NEED A MOTION ON THAT? YES. OKAY. SO THE MOTION WOULD BE TO HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING ON SEPTEMBER THE 16TH.

ON SEPTEMBER THE 14TH. WE CAN DO AN ESTIMATED TIME OF 3 P.M.

OR IMMEDIATELY FOLLOWING CITY COUNCIL. OKAY. THAT'S A WORKSHOP.

VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. MOTION. MOTION. I MOVE THAT WE SCHEDULE A SPECIAL CRA BOARD MEETING FOR MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 14TH AT 3 P.M. OR FOLLOWING THE CITY COUNCIL WORKSHOP THAT DAY.

SECOND. SECOND. OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR? SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. AND OPPOSED PASSES. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

OKAY. CITY ATTORNEY. YOU'RE GOOD. I'M GREAT. THANK YOU.

OKAY. ANY FURTHER BUSINESS COUNSEL? ANYTHING ELSE?

[11) COMMUNICATIONS FROM CRA CHAIR, MEMBERS AND STAFF]

SO WE'LL BE GETTING THOSE SAME PROCESS GOING THAT WE DID FOR RIVER PARK EAST AND REQUESTING PROPOSALS AND, AND GETTING A CONTRACT BACK TO YOU. SO THAT'LL BE OUR, OUR NEXT PRIORITY FOR, FOR THE CRA BUSINESS.

GREAT. OKAY. AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR YOU TODAY.

OKAY. THERE BEING NO FURTHER BUSINESS. MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? ALL RIGHT. SEE YOU LATER. GOOD JOB. 5:00.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.