[1) CALL TO ORDER AND ROLL CALL]
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THIS APRIL 1ST, 2026 REGULAR COUNCIL'S CITY COUNCIL MEETING. IF MADAM CLERK, YOU WOULD PLEASE DO THE ROLL CALL. COUNCIL MEMBER MARTIN HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER KRAMER HERE.
COUNCIL MEMBER. KRULL HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER. HENNEMAN HERE. COUNCILMEMBER SCHULTZ PRESENT.
[2) INVOCATION AND PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]
VICE MAYOR BLANKENSHIP HERE. MAYOR HARTMAN HERE. TODAY IS A VERY SPECIAL DAY. AS YOU CAN TELL, WE ARE KICKING OFF THE CELEBRATION OF OUR COUNTRY'S 250TH BIRTHDAY, AND WE ARE HONORED TODAY TO HAVE THE DAUGHTERS OF THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION JOIN US AND LEADING US IN THE PLEDGE. AND WE ALSO HAVE REVEREND SCOTT EILER, WHO'S HERE WITH US. OKAY. I'M GOING TO ASK COUNCIL MEMBER KRAMER IF HE'LL LEAD US IN THE INVOCATION, FOLLOWED BY THE PLEDGE FROM THE DAUGHTERS OF THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION. PLEASE STAND. LET'S PRAY. FATHER GOD, I THANK YOU FOR TODAY. THANK YOU FOR THE BLESSING IT IS TO LIVE IN THIS BEAUTIFUL, BEAUTIFUL CITY OF NAPLES, FLORIDA. THANK YOU THAT WE CAN HAVE THE BEST HOMETOWN IN AMERICA. I PRAY YOU GIVE US THE FOCUS, THE ENERGY THAT IT TAKES TO MAKE GOOD DECISIONS TODAY.BLESS US TODAY AS WE DO THIS AND HELP US TO LOVE THE PEOPLE AROUND US THE WAY YOU WANT US TO. WE ASK THIS IN YOUR SON'S NAME. AMEN, AMEN, AMEN, AMEN. IF YOU'LL COME FORWARD, PLEASE LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. THANK YOU. THAT WAS A BEAUTIFUL PICTURE. THANK YOU. DAVID. GOOD MORNING, MR. YOUNG. SETTING THE AGENDA, I GUESS WE SHOULD FIRST SAY. WE HAVE A BABY ON THE WAY. SO TODAY WE HAVE INSTEAD OF MR. MCCONNELL, WE HAVE MR. DYCKMAN WITH US. WELCOME. THANK YOU,
[3) SET AGENDA (add or remove items)]
MR. YOUNG. THANK YOU MAYOR. GOOD MORNING. THE ONE CHANGE, COUPLE CHANGES. FIRST ONE I'LL GO OVER, WHICH IS ITEM EXCUSE ME. 13 A IS AN EXECUTIVE SESSION. THERE WILL NOT BE A NEED FOR AN EXECUTIVE SESSION TODAY, WHICH IS ITEM 13 A, WHICH WAS SET FOR 12:30 P.M.AND THEN WITH THAT, I WILL TURN IT OVER TO MR. DICKMAN TO TO MAKE A COUPLE OTHER STATEMENTS RELATED TO OTHER EXECUTIVE SESSIONS. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MAYOR, I DO WANT TO MAKE AN ANNOUNCEMENT FOR TWO EXECUTIVE SESSIONS. ONE WILL BE GREG BRUNER VERSUS CITY OF NAPLES. SO THAT WILL REQUIRE ME TO MAKE THE ANNOUNCEMENT. I GUESS WE CAN MAKE THAT 13 F CORRECT. AND THEN THERE WILL BE ANOTHER ONE WHERE IN THE CASE OF PRIDE, NAPLES PRIDE VERSUS CITY OF NAPLES, I'M GOING TO REQUEST A AN EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR MONDAY. SO THAT'LL BE A SPECIAL MEETING WHICH YOU'LL HAVE TO MAKE A. TAKE A VOTE TO SET YOUR SPECIAL MEETING ON MONDAY. AND THAT WILL REQUIRE A MAJORITY VOTE TO SET THAT AS A SPECIAL MEETING ON MONDAY. I BELIEVE. I WILL HAVE TO FIND OUT WHAT TIME THAT IS SET. I THINK WE WERE GOING TO FIND OUT WHEN EVERYBODY WAS AVAILABLE THAT DAY. SO TWO BE DETERMINED. CORRECT. SO THAT'LL BE F AND THEN THAT WILL BE G. AND THAT'LL BE G. THERE WILL BE TWO ITEMS ANNOUNCEMENTS. WHAT ARE WE DOING. ARE YOU OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT SETTING THE AGENDA. YES A MOTION. I MOVE WE APPROVE AND SET THE AGENDA WITH THOSE THREE CHANGES. AS NOTED. SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCIL, BY VICE MAYOR BLANKENSHIP, SECOND BY COUNCIL. MEMBER BENJAMIN. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNED BY I. I OPPOSED THANK YOU COUNCIL. SO GOING TO ANNOUNCEMENTS AND PRESENTATIONS
[4.A) America 250 Proclamation.]
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AGAIN TODAY IS QUITE THE SPECIAL DAY. IF I COULD HAVE. SANDRA FRASCINO AND KRISTINA, IS KRISTINA HERE? OKAY. COULD YOU COME FORWARD AND SET THE TONE FOR US FOR AMERICA 250 PRESENTATION TODAY COUNCIL. OUR STAFF HAS BEEN WORKING BEHIND THE SCENES SO THAT WE CAN CELEBRATE. 250 THE AMERICAS BIRTHDAY. AS YOU'RE LOOKING ON THE SCREEN, WE DO HAVE THE DAUGHTERS OF THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION WHO HAVE GRACIOUSLY BEEN PARTNERS TO THE CITY ON THIS BY DONATING A MEMORIAL PLAQUE THAT'S IN CAMBIER PARK, AND WILL PRESENT US WITH A FEW SPECIAL GIFTS TO KICK OFF THE CELEBRATION. BUT I. IF YOU COULD JUST SHARE YOUR. WHAT'S BEEN HAPPENING ON BEHALF OF CITY COUNCIL AND THE CITY. THANK YOU, MAYOR HEITMANN. GOOD MORNING, MAYOR, VICE MAYOR AND COUNCIL. ON BEHALF OF MAYOR HEITMANN AND MR. YOUNG, WE'RE PLEASED TO SHARE THAT THE CITY OF NAPLES IS BEGINNING TO PREPARE FOR A HISTORIC MILESTONE. AMERICA'S 250TH ANNIVERSARY. OVER THE COMING MONTHS, THE CITY WILL BE COORDINATING A SERIES OF MEANINGFUL AND COMMUNITY FOCUSED INITIATIVES TO CELEBRATE THIS OCCASION. THESE EFFORTS ARE DESIGNED TO REFLECT BOTH OUR NATION'S HISTORY AND THE STRONG SENSE OF COMMUNITY THAT DEFINES NAPLES. SOME OF THE INITIATIVES CURRENTLY UNDERWAY INCLUDE A CITYWIDE STUDENT ESSAY CONTEST, PATRIOTIC DISPLAYS THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY, A SPECIAL ARBOR DAY AND TREE FEST DEDICATION, YOUTH STORYTELLING OPPORTUNITIES, MEANINGFUL TRIBUTES HONORING OUR VETERANS AND GOLD STAR FAMILIES, AND ENHANCED 4TH OF JULY CELEBRATIONS, INCLUDING A PUBLIC READING OF THE DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE AT CITY HALL BY THE GOD. THIS IS VERY MUCH A COLLABORATIVE EFFORT, AND WE'RE GRATEFUL FOR THE TEAM THAT HAS COME TOGETHER TO HELP BRING THESE IDEAS TO LIFE. THE AMERICA 250 WORKING GROUP INCLUDES MAYOR HEITMANN, MR. YOUNG, CHAD MERRITT, JASON COLLINS, DANIELLE FUSHA, ERIN HOPKINS, MONIQUE BARNHART, TIBÉRIO CRISTINA MAJEWSKI, ALEXIS MCNEELY, AND MYSELF. WE ALSO APPRECIATE THE PARTNERSHIP OF OUR LOCAL SCHOOLS, COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS, AND VOLUNTEERS WHO PLAY AN IMPORTANT ROLE AS THESE INITIATIVES CONTINUE TO TAKE SHAPE. WE LOOK FORWARD TO SHARING MORE DETAILS IN THE COMING MONTHS. MAYOR HEITMANN WILL KEEP YOU UPDATED DURING COUNCIL COMMUNICATIONS, AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO CELEBRATING THESE MILESTONES TOGETHER. THANK YOU SO MUCH. AND THANK YOU TO STAFF THAT YOU MENTIONED WHO HAVE REALLY HELPED US IN BEING ABLE TO PREPARE FOR THIS KICKOFF IN CELEBRATION, WHICH[4.B) America 250 - Big Cypress Chapter of the National Society Daughters of the American Revolution (DAR) Presentation. ]
WILL START TODAY. SO IF I COULD HAVE THE DAUGHTERS OF THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION COME FORWARD.IF YOU CAN SEE YOU ON THE SCREEN, THEN YOU'RE IN THE PERFECT SPACE. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE TODAY, AND IT'S MY HONOR TO PRESENT THIS PROCLAMATION. WHEREAS, ON JULY 4TH, 2026, UNITED STATES OF AMERICA WILL COMMEMORATE THE 250TH ANNIVERSARY OF THE FOUNDING OF OUR NATION, MAKING THE ADOPTION OF THE DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE ON JULY 4TH, 1776, AN EVENT THAT FOREVER CHANGED THE COURSE OF HISTORY. WHEREAS, THE DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE ESTABLISHED THE ENDURING PRINCIPLES THAT CONTINUE TO GUIDE OUR COUNTRY.
AMONG THEM, OUR INDIVIDUALS ARE CREATED EQUAL AND ENDOWED WITH UNALIENABLE RIGHTS, AND THAT GOVERNMENTS DERIVE THEIR POWERS FROM THE CONSENT OF THE GOVERNED. AND WHEREAS AMERICA 250 PROVIDES AN OPPORTUNITY FOR COMMUNITIES TO REFLECT UPON AND CELEBRATE THE VISION, COURAGE AND SACRIFICE OF THE FOUNDING GENERATIONS, AS WELL AS THE COUNTLESS INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE STRENGTHENED OUR NATION THROUGHOUT HISTORY. AND WHEREAS FLORIDA HOLDS A SIGNIFICANT PLACE IN EARLY AMERICAN HISTORY, INCLUDING SERVING AS THE SITE OF THE SOUTHMOST LAND BATTLES OF THE REVOLUTIONARY WAR AND THE LOCATIONS OF THE FINAL NAVAL BATTLE OF THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION. AND WHEREAS THE STATE OF FLORIDA HAS RECOGNIZED THE IMPORTANCE OF COMMEMORATING THE MILESTONE THROUGH EDUCATIONAL, CULTURAL AND HISTORICAL PROGRAMING THAT HIGHLIGHTS THE PRINCIPLES OF THE DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE AND THE MEANING OF THE
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INALIENABLE RIGHTS, AND THE AMERICA'S CHARTER OF FREEDOM. AND WHEREAS THE CITY OF NAPLES PROUDLY JOINS THE NATIONWIDE CELEBRATION OF AMERICA 250 AND RECOGNIZES THE IMPORTANCE OF EDUCATING FUTURE GENERATIONS, FOSTERING CIVIC ENGAGEMENT, AND HONORING THE VETERANS AND SERVICE MEMBERS WHO HAVE SAFEGUARDED OUR FREEDOMS. WHEREAS, THE HISTORIC ANNIVERSARY PROVIDES A MEANINGFUL OPPORTUNITY FOR THE NAPLES COMMUNITY TO GATHER AND REMEMBRANCE, REFLECTION, AND WITH GRATITUDE TO REAFFIRM OUR SHARED COMMITMENT TO THE IDEALS OF LIBERTY, EQUALITY AND SELF-GOVERNMENT. NOW THEREFORE, I, TERESA HEITMANN, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF NAPLES, ON BEHALF OF THE CITY COUNCIL, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM THE CITY OF NAPLES RECOGNITION OF THE CELEBRATION OF AMERICA 250 AND ENCOURAGE ALL RESIDENTS, SCHOOLS, CIVIC ORGANIZATIONS AND COMMUNITY PARTNERS TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS COMMEMORATIVE ACTIVITY THAT HONORS OUR NATION'S FOUNDING AND STRENGTH OF OUR SHARED FUTURE. I CONGRATULATE YOU FOR YOUR COMMITMENT TO RECOGNIZING. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS. THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH, AMERICA. 250 IS SO IMPORTANT TO THE DAUGHTERS OF THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION. AND WE HAVE HAD EVENTS GOING ON FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS AND MANY EVENTS PLANNED FOR THIS YEAR. AND AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT. WE HAVE A LONG HISTORY, WHICH YOU WILL HEAR ABOUT IN SUPPORT OF ALL OF THE WONDERFUL ACTIVITIES HERE SUPPORTING OUR HISTORY IN NAPLES. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MAYOR HEITMANN AND VICE MAYOR BLANKENSHIP AND THE MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL FOR ALLOWING US TO JOIN YOU TODAY. WE ARE HONORED TO SHARE IN THIS EXCITING EVENT AND ESPECIALLY THE EVENTS PLANNED FOR THIS JULY IN NAPLES. BIG CYPRESS CHAPTER IN THE DAUGHTERS OF THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION HAVE A LONG HISTORY WITH THE CITY OF NAPLES. WE HAVE A TREE WITH OUR MARKER PLANTED OVER IN CAMBIER PARK, AND IT'S A FAIRLY LARGE TREE, SO IT WAS PLANTED A WHILE BACK. WE ALSO HAVE BEEN IN THE NAPLES PARADE THE 4TH OF JULY FOR AT LEAST 15 YEARS. MAYBE WE WERE THERE FOR ITS INCEPTION, BUT I WAS UNABLE TO DOCUMENT THAT. BUT I CAN DOCUMENT 15 YEARS, SO WE ARE ESPECIALLY PROUD OF OUR AMERICA. 250 PATRIOT MARKER, WHICH WE WERE ABLE TO GIVE THE CITY WHILE YOU ALL WERE CELEBRATING THE CITY'S 100TH ANNIVERSARY. SO WE'RE PLEASED WITH THAT. AND YOU'RE SEEING THE PICTURES ON THE SCREEN. WE COME BEFORE YOU TODAY WITH TWO REQUESTS. THE FIRST REQUEST IS WE WOULD LIKE YOUR PERMISSION TO PURCHASE A FLAG THAT HAS FLOWN OVER THE UNITED STATES CAPITOL TO BE FLOWN DOWN AT THE NEW NAPLES PIER. AND WE REALIZED THAT THE PIER'S NOT GOING TO BE READY FOR A WHILE, BUT IT TAKES A GOOD WHILE TO GET THE FLAG AND THE CERTIFICATE FROM SENATOR SCOTT'S OFFICE. SO WE WANT TO GO AHEAD AND DO THAT WITH YOUR PERMISSION. AND THE SECOND REQUEST IS, TAKES A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY. AS THE MAYOR SAID IN THE PROCLAMATION ON JULY 4TH, 1776, THE DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE WAS READY, BUT IT HAD TO BE PRINTED AND DISTRIBUTED. AND SO ON. JULY THE 8TH WAS THE FIRST TIME IT WAS READ PUBLICLY TO THE CITIZENS OF PHILADELPHIA. AND SO WE WANT TO. COLONEL JOHN NIXON PUBLICLY READ THE DECLARATION FOR THE FIRST TIME, AND WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO REPEAT THAT JUST AS THE DECLARATION WAS READ IN 1776. NOW, 250 YEARS LATER, WE WANT TO REPEAT THE READING OF THAT DECLARATION. AND THE STATE OF HAWAII IS PROPOSING THIS. SO THE READING WILL START AT SIX, AT 12 NOON IN THE STATE OF HAWAII AND SPREAD ALL ACROSS THE UNITED STATES. THE UNITED STATES NOW ENCOMPASSES MORE THAN 9500 MILES. SO IT WILL BE STARTED IN HAWAII, AND GUAM WILL BE READING IT AT THE SAME TIME. AND THE US VIRGIN ISLANDS AND PUERTO RICO WILL BE READING IT AT THE SAME TIME. OUR TIME TO READ IT IS AT 6 P.M. ON JULY[00:15:05]
THE 8TH, AND WE WOULD LIKE YOUR PERMISSION TO READ IT FROM THE STEPS OF CITY HALL. AND WE WE'RE PREPARED TO, TO, TO TAKE WHATEVER STEPS ARE NECESSARY TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN. AND WE WANT YOU TO PLACE THIS IN THE EVENTS LISTED FOR THE CITY. AND WE'D LIKE TO WILL COOPERATE WITH WHOEVER WE NEED TO DO THAT. SO I THANK YOU FOR HEARING MY REQUEST. AND I HAVE A LITTLE COMMENTARY. FOR YOU ABOUT IT. GO AHEAD AND GO FORWARD AND TAKE A PICTURE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU SIR. THERE YOU ARE. WONDERFUL. THANK YOU SO MUCH. SO SURE. YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT BACK HERE. YOU GET IN THERE. WHAT AM I TRYING? THANK YOU LADIES. THANK YOU. CHRISTINA WILL KEEP IN TOUCH WITH YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE TODAY. IF I COULD HAVE THE NATIONAL PUBLIC[4.C) National Public Safety Telecommunicators Week Proclamation.]
TELECOMMUNICATIONS AS WELL. THE LOCAL COME FORWARD PLEASE. TODAY IS NATIONAL PUBLIC SAFETY TELECOMMUNICATION WEEK. YOU COMING, CHIEF? YOU CAN SEE YOURSELF ON THAT SCREEN. SO IT'S MY HONOR TODAY TO PRESENT THIS. WHEREAS PUBLIC SAFETY TELECOMMUNICATORS PROVIDE AN ANONYMOUS SERVICE AND THEIR DUTIES ARE SELDOM OBSERVED BY THE PUBLIC. AND WHEREAS THE CITY OF NAPLES CONSIDERS THE SERVICES OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY TELECOMMUNICATORS TO BE A VITAL AND WELFARE TO THE INTERESTS OF OUR COMMUNITY. WHEREAS DEDICATED PUBLIC SAFETY TELECOMMUNICATORS SERVE THE CITY OF NAPLES TO PROVIDE THE CRITICAL FIRST CONTACT FOR THOSE IN NEED OF EMERGENCY SERVICES. WHEREAS, OUR COMMUNITY JOINS OTHER CITIES AND TOWNS TO HONOR OUR PUBLIC SAFETY. TELECOMMUNICATORS. AND WHEREAS, IN 1992, THE CONGRESS OF THE UNITED STATES AND THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES ESTABLISHED THE SECOND WEEK OF APRIL AS NATIONAL PUBLIC TELECOMMUNICATORS WEEK. NOW THEREFORE, I, TERESA HEITMANN, BY THE VIRTUE AND THE AUTHORITY VESTED IN ME AS THE MAYOR FOR THE CITY OF NAPLES, FLORIDA, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM THE WEEK OF APRIL 12TH THROUGH THE 18TH, 2026 AS NATIONAL PUBLIC SAFETY TELECOMMUNICATORS WEEK. AND AS YOU ALL CAN VERY WELL IMAGINE, THEY REALLY ARE HANDLING SITUATIONS OF LIFE AND DEATH AND DO IT VERY HUMBLY WITHOUT REALLY ANY RECOGNITION. SO WE HONOR YOU AND THANK YOU. SO YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SAY ANYTHING? OKAY. WELL, THANK YOU, SIR. I'LL GIVE YOU THIS. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. OKAY, WE'LL GO THROUGH. CAN YOU GO? THANK YOU. SO. THANKS GUYS, I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. BY THE WAY, I FIND IT VERY I FIND IT VERY IRONIC THAT YOU GUYS HAD NOTHING TO SAY. AND YOU'RE GETTING AN AWARD FOR COMMUNICATION TODAY. YEAH. SO I DON'T KNOW IF I'M THE ONLY ONE SAW THE IRONY THERE. THANKS, GUYS. YES, SIR. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.[00:20:14]
THANKS, GUYS.OKAY, GREAT WAY TO START OFF APRIL FOOLS DAY, APRIL 1ST. THAT TAKES US TO PUBLIC
[5) PUBLIC COMMENTS]
COMMENTS. ITEM FIVE. AND IF YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK IN PUBLIC COMMENT, YOU CAN FILL OUT THE SPEAKER REGISTRATION FORMS THAT ARE IN THE BACK AND GIVE THEM TO THE CLERK. I HAVE ONE PUBLIC SPEAKER, SLATE DABNEY. JEFFERSON. GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS DABNEY. I LIVE AT 62 SIXTH STREET SOUTH. I'M GOING TO BE VERY BRIEF. THE ONLY THING I REALLY WANT TO SAY IS IF COUNCIL IS GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE ABOUT THE PENDING AIRPORT LEGISLATION, I SINCERELY HOPE THAT AT LEAST ONE COUNCIL PERSON WILL PARTICIPATE IN THAT COMMUNICATION AND ONE COUNCIL PERSON WHO, YOU KNOW, PARTICULARLY FEELS ARTICULATE AND ABLE TO DESCRIBE THE CITY'S POSITION. I TRUST YOU ALL TO DETERMINE WHO THAT MIGHT BE OR WHO IT MIGHT BE, BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE WRONG TO LEAVE IT JUST TO STAFF OR PROFESSIONALS. THAT'S MY COMMENT. THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU'RE DOING. JOHN AND VICTORIA, PLEASE COME FORWARD. I'M CORRECT THAT YOU WANT TO SPEAK TOGETHER. CORRECT. THANK YOU. IF YOU'LL JUST COME FORWARD AND STATE YOUR NAMES FOR THE RECORD.GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS WARREN FELTZ AND THIS IS MY WIFE, VICTORIA. PARDON ME. AND WE'RE CITY RESIDENTS. WE LIVE AT 1260 26TH AVENUE, RIGHT HERE IN THE CITY. I ORIGINALLY MOVED HERE IN 1978, SO I'VE SEEN A LOT OF CHANGES, BUT. I WORK AT THE HOSPITAL FOR 26 YEARS AND. AND. AND COACH ASSISTANT COACH FOR HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL AND BASEBALL AT NAPLES HIGH SCHOOL. SO I'M REALLY INVESTED IN THE COMMUNITY AND I JUST, I JUST WANTED TO SPEAK UP ABOUT THE. WATSON RIVER PARK INCLUSIVE CAMP. WHEN OUR CHILDREN STARTED, WE GOT WE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO RIVER PARK AND THEY DID. AND THEY ATTENDED RIVER PARK
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FOR TEN YEARS. AND IT WAS JUST A TREMENDOUS BLESSING FOR THEM. AND NOW WITH THE AGE, A PROPOSED AGE CHANGE, THEY WOULD HAVE ONLY HAD ONE YEAR OF TO BE AT RIVER PARK. SO IT'S SO IMPORTANT TO THEM. YOU KNOW, THEY ACT, THEY GET TO HAVE FUN, THEY GET TO BE ACT LIKE NORMAL PEOPLE, NORMAL PEOPLE, NORMAL CITIZENS. BUT THEY'RE, THEY'RE BOTH BOTH HAVE AUTISM AND FRAGILE X SYNDROME. SO THEY ARE. QUITE. YOU HAVE A MINUTE? I'LL BET YOU HAVE MY LAST MINUTE. NO.I'M FINISHED, I'M FINISHED. I'M DONE. OKAY. SO. RIGHT. IF I TAKE HIS MONEY. THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING, MRS. MAYOR. CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS. STAFF. I WANT YOU ALL TO KNOW WHO YOU ARE REPRESENTING. WHEN YOU MAKE DECISIONS THAT WILL AFFECT OUR CHILDREN. MY CHALLENGE IS ASKING FOR HELP IN A SOCIETY AND CULTURE THAT SEES LESSER VALUE IN DISABILITY AND IN DISABLED LIVES. EVERY PERSON WITH ID IS JUST AS IMPORTANT AND JUST AS MUCH A PART OF THE WHOLE OF US AS EVERY PERSON. WITHOUT ID. MY HUSBAND AND I HAVE WORKED OVER 40 YEARS TOGETHER AT NCH. LON HAS ALSO COACHED HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL AND BASEBALL AT NAPLES HIGH SCHOOL FOR OVER TEN YEARS. WE WERE WELL ROOTED AND VESTED IN OUR COMMUNITY. I ONLY FOUND OUT ABOUT THIS WONDERFUL PROGRAM THAT'S BEEN IN PLACE FOR 25 YEARS AND WAS SUCCESSFUL BY JENNIFER FOX, BECAUSE I MET HER IN PERSON, JUST HAPPENED OUT IN PUBLIC, AND SHE TOLD ME ABOUT THIS CAMP, THIS WONDERFUL CAMP. AND I THANK HER FOR TELLING ME THIS. THAT WAS 11 YEARS AGO. MY TWINS HAVE ATTENDED TEN OF THOSE YEARS. EVERY DAY THAT I WOULD GO INTO CAMP, I WOULD TELL LYNN, THANK GOD FOR THIS PROGRAM. THANK GOD FOR THIS PROGRAM. BECAUSE IF IT WASN'T FOR THIS PROGRAM, WE WOULD MOVE OUT OF THE STATE OF FLORIDA BECAUSE FLORIDA IS 48TH IN SERVICES FOR SPECIAL NEEDS OUT OF THE UNITED STATES. 48TH. WE'RE AT THE BOTTOM. WE'VE HAD TO COME HERE BEFORE AND SPEAK. WHEN THE PROGRAM WAS BEING DISMANTLED, SAYING THAT TWINS COULD NOT BE GO TO GO TO THE PARK BECAUSE THEY CHANGED THEIR POLICY. SO I HAD ONE TWIN THAT COULD GO BECAUSE HE COULD TOILET AND ONE THAT COULDN'T. AND WE WERE THANKFUL THAT PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY STEPPED UP AND DONATED TO NCF TO PROVIDE THE MONEY FOR THE ONE ON ONE THAT LUKE NEEDED TO GO. AND MANY OTHER FAMILIES. THE BEAUTY OF THIS CAMP WAS ALL DISABLED KIDS COULD GO. THERE WERE NO BARRIERS. ZERO. OUR CHILDREN HAVING FUN. OUR BOYS EXPERIENCED THE JOY OF CHILDHOOD, UNINHIBITED BY THEIR DAILY CHALLENGES. THEY WOULD MOVE A MILE EVERY DAY TO ACCOMPLISH DOING A MARATHON. BY THE END OF THE SUMMER, NAPLES POLICE DEPARTMENT WOULD PATROL THE AREA TO KEEP THEM SAFE. THEY HAD SWIMMING LESSONS AND SWAM. THEY WENT BOWLING, BOATING, HAD DANCE PARTIES, ART AND PIZZA PARTIES. THEIR SMILES WERE ENDLESS AND THERE WAS A GROWTH IN LANGUAGE. I HAD TWO LITTLE BOYS THAT CAME HOME HAPPY AND STINKY. MOST FAMILIES DEPEND ON THIS BECAUSE THEY WORK. THIS CAMP WAS VITAL TO US BECAUSE WHEN WE MOVED BACK TO NAPLES IN 2013, MY HUSBAND GOT VIBRIO FROM LOUDERMILK BEACH AND SPENT A LONG TIME IN THE HOSPITAL IN TWO MONTHS, RECOVERING, TO ONLY COME UP FOR AIR TO BE T-BONED BY A DRUNK DRIVER IN FRONT OF NAPLES HIGH SCHOOL, BRINGING OUR BOYS HOME FROM NAPLES PARK ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. OUR LIVES CHANGED. THEN THERE WAS COVID AND 96 DAYS OF HOSPITALIZATION. TWO MONTHS LATER, THERE WAS OPEN HEART SURGERY WITH 41 DAYS. AND THIS DOESN'T END WHEN I TELL YOU IT WAS LIFE SAVING FOR OUR FAMILY FROM SINKING. IT WAS TO HAVE THE MEETING THAT WAS DECIDED AND ALL THE COUNCIL MEMBERS AGREED TO STOP CHILDREN GOING FROM THE AGE OF 13 TO 22 IS HORRIFIC. I THINK THEY SHOULD KNOW EVERYTHING ABOUT THIS CAMP BEFORE THEY MAKE SUCH A VITAL DECISION FOR OUR COMMUNITY, BECAUSE IT IS ALL ABOUT
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COMMUNITY. IT'S NOT ALWAYS ABOUT TREES AND PICKLEBALL. IT'S ABOUT LIVES, AND IT'S NOT ALL ABOUT POLICIES. IT'S ABOUT DOING THE RIGHT THING. AND WHAT I HAVE TO SHARE IS. THESE OTHER AVENUES THAT ARE SUGGESTED THAT THEY ARE AVAILABLE FOR OUR BOYS TO GO TO, OR ALL THESE OTHER CHILDREN AREN'T AVAILABLE BECAUSE THEY ARE SOME IF THEY NEED HELP WITH TOILETING, EATING OR DRESSING, CANNOT GO TO STABILITY, CANNOT GO TO THE AIR PROGRAM AND CALL YOUR COUNTY. AND I WANT YOU ALL TO KNOW THAT. I WANT YOU ALL TO KNOW THIS AND KNOW THE FACTS BEFORE YOU MAKE SUCH A HUGE DECISION FOR OUR CHILDREN AND PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY, BECAUSE IT IS ABOUT COMMUNITY. IT IS ABOUT THE QUALITY OF LIFE IN OUR COMMUNITY. IT'S ABOUT THE WAY THAT YOU AFFECT PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY, IN OUR COMMUNITY. AND YOU KNOW, JUST TO GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE, SOMETIMES YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT DIFFERENCE YOU MAKE IN THE LIVES OF SOMEONE, ESPECIALLY CHILDREN. BUT WHEN YOU GET AN EMAIL ON FACEBOOK AND IT'S A PRIOR FIRE OF MY HUSBAND APOLOGIZING IF HE DIDN'T GET TO THE RIGHT PERSON, BUT THANKING HIM WHILE HE'S IN A FOXHOLE IN AFGHANISTAN FOR BEING THE GUARDIAN ANGEL FOR HIM WHEN HE WAS GOING DOWN THE WRONG ROAD. AND THESE LETTERS CONTINUE. DON'T EVER THINK THAT YOU DON'T MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN CHILDREN'S LIFE, EVER. AND PLEASE DO YOUR HOMEWORK. AT LEAST ONE OF YOU THAT WOULD STAND UP FOR OUR CHILDREN IN THE CITY OF NAPLES. PLEASE BE ADDRESSED THIS.PLEASE BRING IT BACK TO THE TABLE. PLEASE DO YOUR HOMEWORK. THEY ALL DESERVE TO HAVE A GOOD QUALITY OF LIFE. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR COMING AND STANDING FOR WHAT'S RIGHT. AND EVEN YOUR OWN FAMILY. I THINK THAT THE CITY SHOULD BE VERY PROUD OF THIS PROGRAM AND WHAT THEY'VE BEEN ABLE TO PROVIDE FOR YEARS. I KNOW THERE ARE SOME TECHNICAL ISSUES AND STAFFING ISSUES THAT HAVE CHANGED, THAT HAVE BROUGHT US TO MAKE CERTAIN CHANGES, BUT I DEFINITELY WILL MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND THE DETAILS OF WHAT'S HAPPENING. AND I APPRECIATE THAT. AND THE ONE THING I WOULD LIKE TO SAY IS TRANSPARENCY IS SO IMPORTANT. YOU CAN'T HAVE A WORKSHOP MEETING DECEMBER 8TH AND NOT LET THE PARENTS KNOW THREE DAYS BEFORE ELECTION. IT'S WRONG. AND I HOLD YOU ALL ACCOUNTABLE, EVERY ONE OF YOU. AND I KNOW SOME OF YOU ARE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND YOU KNOW OUR BOYS OR, YOU KNOW, MY HUSBAND. AND THERE HAS BEEN A TRANSPARENCY ISSUE FROM THE START. THE TRANSPARENCY WAS WE GOT A PHONE CALL INITIALLY WHEN THE WHEN ONE OF OUR SONS WAS TOLD HE COULDN'T GO UNLESS WE HIRED A ONE ON ONE AND WE WERE TOLD IT WAS DUE TO STAFFING ISSUES, WE WERE TOLD OVER THE PHONE AND WHEN WE CAME HERE TO SPEAK, MAYOR HEITMAN LET US KNOW THAT IT WAS ACTUALLY AN INSURANCE REASON. AND TRANSPARENCY IS IMPORTANT. IT'S IT'S JUST THE KEY. WE LIVE HERE FOR A REASON. WE MOVE BACK FROM NORTH CAROLINA IN THE FIRST THING MY HUSBAND SAID, I DON'T CARE WHERE WE LIVE, BUT I WANT TO BE IN NAPLES HIGH SCHOOL DISTRICT ONCE A COACH, ALWAYS A COACH. SO TRANSPARENCY IS IMPORTANT. AND I, YOU KNOW, I HOPE AND PRAY THAT YOU ALL READDRESS THIS AND, AND SUPPORT SUPPORT THIS WONDERFUL PROGRAM THAT THERE IS NONE OTHER LIKE IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA. AND IN FACT, TWO OTHER AREAS HAD THE CAMP SUPERVISOR COME UP AND MODEL OUR PROGRAM FOR THEM. WE NEED YOU. OUR CHILDREN NEED YOU.
THIS COMMUNITY NEEDS YOU. AND THEN I HOPE THAT YOU WILL TAKE YOUR JOB SERIOUSLY. AND PLEASE DIG IN AND FIND OUT ALL THE ANSWERS BEFORE YOU JUST TAKE THINGS AT SURFACE VALUE. THANK YOU. AND HOW OLD IS LEVI AND LUKE? THEY JUST AGED OUT LAST YEAR. AND LIKE MY HUSBAND SAID, THEY WOULD HAVE GOTTEN ONE YEAR RIGHT. AND I COULDN'T EVEN IMAGINE IT. AND I USUALLY HAVE LUKE ON VIDEO BECAUSE MY SON NEVER. LUKE NEVER SAID HIS FIRST WORD UNTIL HE WAS SIX.
AND WHEN. THIS IS WHAT HE CARRIES AROUND EVERY DAY. THE CAMP SHIRTS. I HAVE ALL THE
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CAMP SHIRTS. AND I'LL SAY, HEY LUKE, WHERE DO YOU WANT TO GO TODAY? AND HE'LL SAY, I WANT TO GO TO CAMP. I WANT TO GO TO CAMP. EVERY YEAR THAT HE WOULD GO BACK TO SCHOOL, THE TEACHER COULDN'T BELIEVE HOW HIS LANGUAGE INCREASED. YOU KNOW, WE ALL WE ALL SHOULD HAVE A QUALITY OF LIFE. AND THIS PROGRAM IS GOLDEN. IT'S GOLDEN. IT'S STELLAR. IT WAS WORKING.AND I THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS LAURA HANSON REYNOLDS. AND MADAM CLERK, DO I HAVE ANY FURTHER. OKAY. THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS LAURA HANSON REYNOLDS AND I LIVE AT EIGHT 56TH AVENUE NORTH. I HAVE MADE PUBLIC COMMENTS AT RECENT MEETINGS ASKING THE COUNCIL TO CONSIDER PUTTING A REFERENDUM ON THE AUGUST PRIMARY BALLOT TO CHANGE THE CITY CHARTER TO MOVE THE MUNICIPAL ELECTIONS TO COINCIDE WITH THE NOVEMBER GENERAL ELECTIONS. THIS WOULD GREATLY INCREASE VOTER PARTICIPATION, WHICH HAS BECOME VERY LOW, WITH SIX OUT OF TEN REGISTERED VOTERS NOT PARTICIPATING IN THE 2026 CITY ELECTION. I HAVE SPOKEN WITH THE SUPERVISOR OF ELECTIONS, MELISSA BLAZIER, AND SHE EXPRESSED HER CONCERN ABOUT HAVING FOUR REFERENDA QUESTIONS ON THE AUGUST BALLOT BEING TOO MUCH AND FOR PRACTICAL PRINTING REASONS, SHE HAS TO KEEP THE NOVEMBER BALLOT TO TWO PHYSICAL PAGES. IF IT PUSHED TO A THIRD PAGE, IT WOULD INCREASE THEIR PRINTING COSTS BY 50%, AND THEY DO LIKE 76 DIFFERENT BALLOTS FOR A GENERAL ELECTION. SO IT'S ACTUALLY HUGE. I SUGGEST TO YOU AS A COUNCIL THAT YOU PRIORITIZE WHICH REFERENDUM QUESTIONS MOVE FORWARD. IF THERE HAVE TO BE LIMITS WITH A FIRST IN, FIRST ON THE BALLOT APPROACH, YOUR NEW COUNCIL WILL BE ASKING VOTERS TO FIRST GIVE THEM A RAISE. NEXT, TWO QUESTIONS WOULD BE ASKED BY THE SUPERVISOR OF ELECTIONS TO ADJUST THE CHARTER DEADLINES FOR HAVING A SPECIAL ELECTION WHEN A SEAT MUST BE FILLED OFF. CYCLE. FINALLY, A COMMON SENSE REFERENDUM QUESTION THAT WOULD VASTLY INCREASE VOTER PARTICIPATION WHILE ALSO SAVING THE CITY BUDGET, REQUIRED REIMBURSEMENT OF ELECTION COSTS 50,000. THIS YEAR, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN 100,000 TO HAVE EARLY VOTING DAYS FOR STAND ALONE MUNICIPAL ELECTIONS. A FRIEND OF MINE, WHO WAS ALSO THE PRESIDENT OF A NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION HERE IN NAPLES, SUGGESTED THAT SHE WOULD BE MUCH MORE LIKELY TO VOTE FOR A SALARY INCREASE TO COUNCIL MEMBERS AND THE MAYOR IF SHE COULD ALSO VOTE FOR A MONEY SAVING CHANGE. THE OPTICS ARE JUST A LOT BETTER WITHOUT PRIORITIZING YOUR CHOICES. THE TIMING CHANGE FOR CITY ELECTIONS MIGHT NOT BE VOTED ON IN 2026 OR EVEN IN 2027, SINCE THERE ARE NO ELECTIONS IN THAT OFF YEAR. THE FIRST OPPORTUNITY TO PUT THIS QUESTION TO THE VOTERS WOULD BE MARCH OF 2028, WHEN THE NAPLES MUNICIPAL ELECTION WILL OCCUR IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE PRESIDENTIAL PREFERENCE PRIMARY, WHICH, BY THE WAY, ONLY HAD 27% TURNOUT IN THE LAST CYCLE IN 2024. WITH VOTER SUPPORT, THE CHANGE COULD THEN TAKE EFFECT IN 2030, AND IT'S MY HUMBLE OPINION THAT THAT IS A REALLY LONG TIME TO WAIT FOR SUCH A COMMON SENSE, GOOD GOVERNANCE, WIN WIN PROPOSITION. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. OKAY. WITH THAT, IT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT TAKING US TO THE APPROVAL OF THE
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CONSENT AGENDA AND GOING, OH, HOLD ON, MISS MARTIN. I WENT OVER THE CONSENT AGENDA AND I DON'T HAVE ANY ISSUES WITH THE CONSENT AGENDA, EXCEPT FOR I REALLY BELIEVE THAT WITH NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS, IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT THEY SEE SOME OF THE EFFORTS OF OUR STAFF AND SOME REALLY EXCITING WORK THAT THEY DO, AND THOUGHT THAT SEVEN B COULD JUST BE A PRESENTATION FROM STAFF ON OUR OUR TREE PROGRAM. IT. I KNOW THE VICE MAYOR IS FAMILIAR WITH IT BECAUSE HE WAS ON COMMUNITY SERVICES, BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY JUST TO HIGHLIGHT OUR STAFF AND WHAT WE'RE DOING AS OUR TREE PROGRAM WITH THAT, ANY OTHER ITEMS FOR THE CONSENT AGENDA TO BE PULLED OR DISCUSSED OR AND AN APPROVAL? MADAM MAYOR, I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA WITH THE EXCEPTION OF ITEM SEVEN B TO BE PRESENTED SEPARATELY.[00:40:06]
SECOND. THANK YOU. I HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL FOR THE CONSENT AGENDA BY VICE MAYOR AND A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER SCHULTZ. ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SIGN BY. I, I OPPOSED OKAY,[7.B) A Resolution for the Purpose of Amending the City of Naples Designated Street Tree Program Approved by Resolution 2025-15640; Repealing Resolution 2025-15640; and Providing an Effective Date. ]
PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU. AND WE'LL MOVE TO SEVEN B. HEATHER SHIELDS IS HERE AND SO IS MR. MERRITT. GOOD MORNING. HEATHER SHIELDS, URBAN FOREST MANAGER WITH THE CITY OF NAPLES.FOR THE RECORD, THANKS FOR THE OPPORTUNITY. I YOU KNOW ME, I ALWAYS LOVE TALKING ABOUT TREES AND I HAVE ALL DAY. SO THE DESIGNATED STREET TREE PROGRAM THAT THE CITY OF NAPLES HAS IS IS PRETTY SPECIAL AND IT'S PRETTY UNIQUE AROUND THE STATE AND IN DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES.
AND I THINK IT'S ACTUALLY ONE OF THE THINGS THAT MAKES OUR COMMUNITY VERY COMMUNITY ORIENTED, TURNING DOWN SOME OF OUR STREETS AND SEEING THEM LINED WITH BEAUTIFUL ROYAL POINCIANAS IN BLOOM IS JUST BREATHTAKING, IN MY HUMBLE OPINION. BUT WE DO HAVE THE STREET TREE PROGRAM AND THE WAY IT IS SET UP, OBVIOUSLY, AS I STATED, IS EACH TREE HAS A DESIGNATED SPECIES. OF COURSE, THERE'S ALWAYS A FEW EXCEPTIONS, AND WE WORK VERY CLOSELY WITH THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATIONS AND THE RESIDENTS ON THOSE STREETS FOR THE SELECTION OF THE TREES IN TERMS OF WHAT'S BEST FOR THE AREA, POWER LINES, UTILITIES, WE HAVE A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS TO TAKE INTO PLACE. THE APPROVAL TODAY THAT'S IN FRONT OF YOU IS FOR UP ON SEAGATE DRIVE. SEAGATE DRIVE HAS CUBAN LAUREL TREES CURRENTLY, AND AFTER HURRICANE WILMA, THE CITY MADE THE DECISION TO NO LONGER PLANT THOSE DUE TO THE DAMAGES THAT THEY CAUSED. THEY'RE ALSO AN INVASIVE SPECIES, SO IT'S A GOOD IDEA FOR US TO ACTIVELY TRY TO REDUCE THE INVASIVE SPECIES THAT WE MAY HAVE AFTER HURRICANE WILMA, THEY COLLECTIVELY DECIDED THAT LIVE OAKS WOULD REPLACE THOSE. AND IN WORKING WITH THE SEAGATE COMMUNITY, THEY REALLY DIDN'T WANT THE LIVE OAKS. SO WORKING THROUGH THEM, WE DECIDED THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO CHANGE IT TO THE SHADY LADY BLACK OLIVE, WHICH IS ACTUALLY ONE OF MY MORE FAVORITE TREES. IF IT'S NOT A SPECIES Y'ALL ARE FAMILIAR WITH, THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT ARE ACTUALLY RIGHT OUT HERE ON CITY HALL ALONG SEVENTH AVENUE. THOSE ARE THE SHADY LADY TREES. IT'S REALLY GREAT SPECIES. SO WE TYPICALLY BRING THIS TO YOU EVERY YEAR ABOUT THIS TIME AS WE CONTINUE TO WORK WITH OUR RESIDENTS TO GET MORE CANOPY, TO REDUCE THE PALMS. AND ALSO JUST A SITUATION LIKE THIS WHERE THE THE NEIGHBORHOOD WOULD PREFER SOMETHING OTHER THAN WHAT THEY CURRENTLY HAD. SO YOU SEE ME ANNUALLY WITH THIS, AND I WOULD RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL OF THIS CHANGE. AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE ON OUR OUR STREET TREES, OUR, OUR URBAN FOREST IN GENERAL. THANK YOU. OH, LET'S SEE, I HAVE COUNCILMEMBER SCHULTZ. I LIVE ON SEAGATE DRIVE AND I'M TRYING TO PICTURE WHERE THEY ARE. GOT THOSE BANYAN TREES ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE ROAD THAT ARE JUST STUNNING, BUT GOT SORT OF BEAT THE HECK BY FPL. THE GIANT V IN THE MIDDLE OF THEM. WHICH WHICH TREES ARE YOU SPEAKING TO? THE ONES THAT WOULD BE ON THE NORTH SIDE OF SEAGATE DRIVE, HEADING WEST WESTBOUND. YES SIR. WE RECENTLY REMOVED SIX LARGE FICUS TREES THAT WERE GONE. I WANT TO SAY IT'S RIGHT THERE AT SEA SHELL. I KNOW IT'S MRS. DYKEMAN'S PROPERTY. I DON'T REMEMBER HER EXACT ADDRESS. AND THEN WE WORKED WITH CATHERINE AND SUSAN DEVOE UP THERE AND. AND, YOU KNOW, SOME POLLING AND STUFF THAT THEY'VE DONE. SO THAT THAT AREA RIGHT IN THERE IS GETTING THREE. AND THEN ACTUALLY WE'RE GOING TO BE TAKING A WALK. MRS. DYKEMAN, MRS. DEVOE AND CATHERINE NEXT WEEK TO LOOK AND SEE IF THERE'S ANY OTHER VACANT LOCATIONS. AND IT WOULD BE MORE ALONG THAT NORTH SIDE. WE DO HAVE THAT LINEAR PARK SECTION THAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO THAT WE WILL NEED TO HAVE A BIGGER CONVERSATION ON, BECAUSE WE ACTUALLY DO HAVE SEVERAL LOCATIONS THAT WERE LOST OVER THE YEARS, AND WE ACTUALLY DO HAVE ANOTHER LARGE FICUS TREE THAT WE ARE GOING TO POTENTIALLY HAVE TO SCHEDULE FOR REMOVAL HERE LATER THIS SUMMER BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNT OF DEAD WOOD AND DECAY. SO, JIM HODGDON, MY SUPERVISOR, CHAD AND MYSELF, WE ARE AWARE THAT WE DO HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL DISCUSSIONS TO HAVE ON THAT LOCATION. SO THAT AREA. THANK YOU. WHEN YOU'RE GOING TO DO THAT, WOULD YOU PROVIDE ME THE DATE? I'D LIKE TO JOIN YOU FOR THE WALK. YES, MA'AM. OH YES SIR. I WILL EMAIL IT OVER TO YOU. I BELIEVE IT'S NEXT THURSDAY AT 10:00, BUT I'LL CONFIRM THAT FOR YOU. YES, SIR. THANK YOU. WHAT WERE THE TREES THAT WERE TAKEN OUT AT THE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU CALL THE THE DEAD END OR SO OF THE CANAL
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RIGHT ON SEAGATE THAT ENDED THE SEAGATE WERE THE GIANT HOMES BEING BUILT AND EVERYTHING'S JUST GONE THERE NOW. AND THERE WAS 1 OR 2 TREES REMOVED FROM THERE. WERE THOSE THE PROBLEM CHILDREN THAT YOU WERE JUST SPEAKING TO THAT THEIR DIE OFF OF THE OF THE I BELIEVE WE ARE REFERRING TO THE SAME LOCATION, SIR. BUT YES, IF YOU ARE ABLE TO JOIN US NEXT WEEK, WE CAN CONFIRM THAT AND MAKE SURE THAT THE SITE YOU'RE REFERRING TO, IF IT'S VIABLE, CAN HAVE A NEW LOCATION, A NEW TREE PLANTED. GREAT. THANK YOU. JUST SENDING THAT ALONG. THANK YOU. OKAY. I WILL THANK YOU. COUNCIL. HEATHER. THANK YOU. TELL ME HOW THE BLACK OLIVE RESPONDS TO SALT WATER. IT WILL DO JUST FINE IN THE. IT HAS A A MEDIUM TO HIGH SALT TOLERANCE. SO THEY WILL BE VERY. THEY. AND THEY DID PERFORM VERY WELL ALSO THROUGH OUR RECENT HURRICANE BATCHES. SO. AND THE BIG PICTURE, THEY'LL DO WELL. OBVIOUSLY, THERE'S ALWAYS A CHANCE THAT ANY INDIVIDUAL GIVEN TREE WOULDN'T. BUT THE SHADY LADIES HAVE RESPONDED VERY WELL IN THE PAST. VERY WELL. THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION. YEAH. THANK YOU. GOOD QUESTION, VICE MAYOR. THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO THANK YOU AND THE TEAM FOR THE WORK YOU DO IN MANAGING AND TAKING CARE OF OUR TREES. IT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT MAKES NAPLES SO BEAUTIFUL AND SPECIAL. AND I ALSO APPRECIATE THE WAY YOU WORK WITH THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND RESIDENTS TO GET THEIR INPUT ON THEIR PREFERRED TREES, AND THAT SOMETIMES YOU EXPERIMENT WITH STREET TREES AND IF THEY DON'T WORK OUT, THAT'S OKAY. YOU MAKE CHANGES TO SOMETHING THAT WORKS BETTER. THAT'S THAT'S APPRECIATED. AND I ALSO WANT TO TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO THANK STAFF FOR PURSUING THE UNDERGROUNDING PROJECT IN SEAGATE OVER THE LAST. SEEMS LIKE TEN YEARS. TO FINALLY GET THAT DONE, GET THOSE POLES AND LINES REMOVED. IT'S GOING TO MAKE A HUGE DIFFERENCE LONG TERM. AND A LOT OF PEOPLE, INCLUDING OUR CITY MANAGER, WERE INVOLVED IN MAKING THAT HAPPEN, AND IT'S REALLY APPRECIATED A QUESTION ON THOSE. SO THE BANYANS OR FICUS TREES THAT ARE LEFT THAT HAVE THE BIG V OR Y SHAPE FROM FORNALS, TERRIBLE ACTIONS. IS THERE ANYTHING YOU CAN DO TO PROMOTE REGROWTH AND SAVING THOSE TREES, EXTRA FERTILIZER OR OR PRUNING IN A CERTAIN WAY? ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO TRY TO PROTECT BECAUSE THEY ARE BEAUTIFUL, THEY'RE BIG, THEY'RE VERY MATURE, AND IT'D BE NICE TO SAVE THEM IF WE CAN. OUR ACTIONS ARE DEFINITELY GOING TO BE TOWARDS SAVING THEM AND KEEPING AS MANY OF THEM AS POSSIBLE. IN TERMS OF FERTILIZERS AND STUFF, THEY ARE VERY OLD, MATURE TREES AND THEIR RESPONSE TO FERTILIZERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT ARE NOT TYPICALLY IN THEIR BEST INTEREST, BECAUSE IT'S ALMOST JUST LIKE GIVING THEM A FIVE HOUR ENERGY DRINK. IT'S GOING TO BE GREAT FOR A MONTH, AND THEN IT'S GOING TO BE RIGHT BACK TO WHERE WE ARE. BUT WE WILL START. AND WE HAVE ACTUALLY, IN THE PAST DONE DIRECTIONAL PRUNING TO TRY TO HELP GET THE NEW GROWTH TO GO IN CERTAIN DIRECTIONS. WE ACTUALLY JUST HAD DAVEY TREE UP THERE LITERALLY YESTERDAY, REMOVING SOME DEAD AND MAKING A FEW CUTS HERE AND THERE TO START THE PROCESS. NOW THAT THE POLES AND EVERYTHING ARE COMPLETELY GONE, TO START GETTING THEM TO FILL IN THERE IN THE MIDDLE, IT'LL BE A LONG, SLOW PROCESS BECAUSE WE DIDN'T GET TO WHERE WE ARE WITH ONE PRUNING, BUT IT WILL BE OUR GOAL TO BEGIN TO DEVELOP SOME CENTER BRANCHING AND HOPEFULLY WITHIN THE NEXT 3 TO 5 YEARS, WE'LL BE ABLE TO START FILLING IN THAT THAT HOLE WITH SOME GOOD, GOOD GROWTH. GREAT. THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO ALSO THANK YOU BECAUSE THE TREE PROGRAM IS DEFINITELY WHAT I THINK MAKES US HAVE THAT SMALL TOWN CHARM. COULD YOU JUST UPDATE US ON THE DID I HEAR CORRECTLY THAT ROYAL POINCIANAS ARE AN INVASIVE AND. NO, NO MA'AM. ROYAL POINT SANDS ARE NOT AN INVASIVE SPECIES. NO. OH GOSH, NO, I MISUNDERSTOOD. THAT'S GREAT. THAT'S. I'M GLAD THAT WAS A MISUNDERSTANDING BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE DEVASTATING TO US. YEAH. THE THE CUBAN LAUREL IS A CLASS ONE INVASIVE, EXOTIC. THAT'S WHAT WE REFER TO AS THE FICUS AND THE BANYAN DOWN THROUGH HERE. WE HAVE A FEW OTHER SPECIES, BUT MOST OF OUR FICUS TREES ARE CUBAN LAURELS, WHICH ARE THE INVASIVE, EXOTIC. GREAT. THANK YOU. AND THEN PALM TREES. DID WE PUT A POLICY IN PLACE THAT WE WERE NOT GOING TO DO THE COCONUT TREES? NO, MA'AM. WE[00:50:01]
HAVE NO POLICIES THAT FORBID US FROM DOING ANY OF THAT TYPE OF STUFF. IT'S JUST KIND OF AN ACTIVE THING WE'RE TRYING TO WORK TOWARDS, OBVIOUSLY IS MORE SHADE, BUT WE DO REPLACE THE ROYAL PALMS, THE COCONUT PALMS. WE ARE ACTIVELY MANAGING THEIR QUANTITIES BECAUSE WE DO HAVE A LARGE AMOUNT OF ROYAL PALMS AND COCONUT PALMS. AND WHEN I SAY LARGE AMOUNT, ROYALS ARE ABOUT 27% OF OUR URBAN FOREST AND THE COCONUTS ARE AT ABOUT 18. URBAN FOREST MANAGEMENT 101 SAYS YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE ANYTHING OVER 10%. SO WE ARE TRYING TO SEE IF WE CAN ACTIVELY REDUCE THOSE NUMBERS. BUT IN NAPLES, WE'RE ALWAYS GOING TO HAVE A PLACE FOR COCONUTS AND ROYAL PALMS, BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT A LOT OF OUR RESIDENTS AND VISITORS WANT. BUT WE ARE ALSO TRYING TO BE STRATEGIC ABOUT WHERE THEY ARE PLACED IN TERMS OF THEIR MAINTENANCE AND, YOU KNOW, THEIR SURVIVABILITY. AND THEN TO GET US MORE CANOPY AND OTHER AREAS WHERE THAT WOULD BE MORE VALUABLE. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND DARE I ASK, HAVE WE COME UP WITH A POLICY ON MULCH? CHAD? CHAD MERRITT COMMUNITY SERVICES DIRECTOR THAT'S A, AN ITEM THAT I THINK THAT AT SOME POINT WE'LL HAVE THAT CONVERSATION. WE HAVE NOT ACTIVELY MADE ANY DECISIONS TO CHANGE OUR CURRENT PRACTICE. SO WE HAVE AREAS THAT ARE MULCHED. SO THE ONLY OPTION WE HAVE NOW IS TO LEAVE THEM MULCHED. TYPICALLY WHEN WE HAVE THOSE ISSUES WITH THE MULCH IS WHEN WE HAVE THOSE UNFORTUNATE VISITORS THAT COME IN DURING THE SUMMER AND EARLY FALL TIMES. AND THAT'S WHEN WE REALLY SEE THE MULCH START GETTING WASHED AWAY. SO BUT THAT WOULD BE A CONVERSATION, I THINK LATER AT A MAYOR, I WILL REMIND YOU THAT WE DIDN'T I SAY THIS ALL THE TIME, BUT IT'S A TRUE STATEMENT.WE DIDN'T GET HERE OVERNIGHT ON MULCH AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO REVERSE IT OVERNIGHT. BUT WHAT WE HAVE DONE IS WHEN WE WENT BACK OUT FOR BANYAN, ASKED FOR ALTERNATIVE SURFACE SO THAT WE CAN PRESENT TO YOU FOR THE FIRST ON THE FIRST TIME, WE'VE COME BACK TO YOU TO DO ONE OF THESE STREETS THAT WE GIVE YOU ALTERNATIVES AND HAVE THAT DISCUSSION. SO RATHER THAN HAVE AN ISOLATED DISCUSSION, IN MY OPINION, WHEN WE COME BACK TO YOU, I THINK IT IS APRIL, IT MAY BE MAY 6TH, BUT EITHER WAY, WE'LL BE COMING BACK TO YOU WITH BANYAN AND WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT ALTERNATIVE. FILL IN THAT WITH THAT BID. SO I JUST TIMING IS EVERYTHING. AND WE DIDN'T WE WEREN'T IN POSITION TO WE'RE COMING INTO SEASON. WE JUST PASSED THE BUDGET AND OKAY, WE'RE GOING TO MULCH EXACTLY THE WAY IT WAS. WHAT'S THE NEXT PROJECT? AND LET'S TALK ABOUT ALTERNATIVE FOR THAT. SO I DID WANT TO LET YOU KNOW IT WASN'T FORGOTTEN ABOUT THOSE DISCUSSIONS. OH, I KNOW YOU DON'T FORGET ABOUT THINGS. I JUST DIDN'T KNOW IF WE NEEDED TO HAVE A FORMAL POLICY, BUT I WANTED TO BECAUSE CHAD WILL REMEMBER THAT THAT'S WHAT WE INCLUDED IN THAT BID. SO YEAH, WE ACTUALLY. SO WHAT WE'LL HAVE IS A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT OPTIONS. AND, AND WE'LL HAVE THAT CONVERSATION AT A LATER DATE SOON. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU FOR GIVING US THIS TIME FOR YOU TO SHINE. WE APPRECIATE ALL THAT YOU DO.
OKAY. OH, SORRY, COUNCILMEMBER SCHULTZ, THE THE ABILITY TO GRAFT. ARE YOU ABLE TO GRAFT SOME TO TRY AND FILL IN THE Y'S OR WHATEVER THAT WOULD BE CALLED, SO YOU CAN GRAFT IN HEAVY GRAFTS DIRECTIONALLY TO TRY TO FILL IN WHAT GOT RAPED BY THE FPL. I DON'T REALLY HAVE A LOT OF EXPERIENCE WITH, YOU KNOW, THE GRAFT, YOU KNOW, ADDING IN DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT COMPONENTS TO A TREE. BUT WITH THE GROWTH PATTERN OF FICUS BEING AS AGGRESSIVE AS IT IS, THE DIRECTIONAL PRUNING WILL GET US FILLED IN IN THERE WITHOUT HAVING TO DO ANY TYPE OF ADDITIONAL GRAFTING IN THOSE AREAS. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE BANYAN TREES. YES, SIR. SO YOU CAN'T JUST DIRECTIONALLY. YEAH. WELL DIRECTIONALLY PRUNE IT TO START FILLING IN THERE, START REDUCING THEM A LITTLE BIT TO PUSH GROWTH INTO OTHER AREAS AND STUFF. SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE'LL BE UNDERTAKING. AND ACTUALLY THEIR NEXT FULL PRUNING IS THIS COMING FALL. SO IT ACTUALLY WILL TURN TIME OUT REALLY WELL. HOPEFULLY WE'LL HAVE A GOOD RAINY SEASON, WHICH WILL GIVE US A LOT OF ADDITIONAL GROWTH IN THERE. AND WE'LL HAVE GOOD BRANCHING TO START MAKING THOSE PRUNING CUTS TO, YOU KNOW, DIRECTIONALLY PRUNE EVERYTHING INTO THE CENTERS AND, YOU KNOW, FILL IN THE CANOPY THROUGH THERE. YEAH. WHEN WE FIRST MOVED INTO NAPLES CAY, THAT CANOPY GOING DOWN SEAGATE WAS JUST ABSOLUTELY STUNNING FROM BOTH SIDES. AND THAT WAS REALLY WHAT ATTRACTED US TO TO MOVE BACK THERE, WHICH IS ABSOLUTELY INCREDIBLE. THANK YOU. KUDOS. AND THIS ISN'T ABOUT TREES, BUT MR. MAYOR, THANK YOU FOR THE SPECIAL EVENTS CALENDAR THAT I HOPE COUNCIL WILL PAY ATTENTION TO. AND YOU KNOW, IT. IT'S A GREAT
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TOOL FOR US. YES. SO DANIELLE MADE THOSE UPS. I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE CREDIT FOR IT. WELL GOOD. I'M GLAD DANIELLE DID THAT. SHE COLOR CODED IT AND EVERYTHING. SO AWESOME. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT WITH THAT THAT CONCLUDES THE CONSENT AGENDA. CAN WE GET A MAYBE A VOTE. OH THANK YOU SIR. DO YOU WANT US TO VOTE FOR THAT. YES. I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE SEVEN B ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. NEED A MOTION? ARE YOU MAKING A MOTION? I JUST MADE THE MOTION.I NEED A SECOND AND A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER BARTON. ALL IN FAVOR? SIGNED BY I. AYE, OPPOSED. THANK YOU. THAT TAKES US TO ITEM 11 A. AND, MR. DICKMAN, IF YOU'LL READ THE
[11.A) Continued from the February 18, 2026 City Council Meeting. A Resolution Determining Live Entertainment Petition 26-LE3 Establishing Amplified Outdoor Live Entertainment Seven Days Per Week in Multiple Locations on Private Property Pursuant to Section 56-125 of the Code of Ordinances, for the Naples Beach Club Owned by Naples Beach Club Land Trust Trustee, LLC, a Delaware Limited Liability Company, Naples Beach Club Owner, LLC, a Delaware Limited Liability Company, and Naples Beach Club Phase II and III Land Trust Trustee, LLC, a Delaware Limited Liability Company, and Located at 801, 802, 811, 891, 896, and 898 Gulf Shore Boulevard North, More Fully Described Herein; Providing for Scrivener's Errors; Providing Findings and Conditions; and Providing an Effective Date. ]
RESOLUTION. YES. THIS IS A QUASI JUDICIAL ITEM, A RESOLUTION DETERMINING LIVE ENTERTAINMENT PETITION 20 6-L3 ESTABLISHING AMPLIFIED OUTDOOR LIVE ENTERTAINMENT, SEVEN DAYS PER WEEK IN MULTIPLE LOCATIONS ON PRIVATE PROPERTY PURSUANT TO SECTION 50 6-1 25 OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES FOR THE NAVAL BEACH CLUB, OWNED BY NAPLES BEACH CLUB LAND TRUST TRUSTEES LLC, A DELAWARE LIMITED LIABILITY NETWORK. NAPLES BEACH CLUB OWNER, LLC. LLC, A DELAWARE LIMITED COMPANY, NAPLES BEACH CLUB PHASE TWO AND PHASE THREE LAND TRUST, LLC, A DELAWARE LIMITED COMPANY PROVIDED AT. LOCATED AT 8018028 11 EIGHT, 98, 91, 896 AND 898 GULF SHORE BOULEVARD NORTH MORE FULLY DESCRIBED HEREIN, PROVIDING FOR SCRIVENER'S ERRORS, PROVIDING FINDINGS AND CONDITIONS, AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. FOR ALL THOSE INTENDING TO OFFER TESTIMONY, PLEASE RISE AND RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM. YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THE TESTIMONY YOU'RE ABOUT TO GIVE. BE THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH. YES. THANK YOU. COUNSEL. DISCLOSURES. COUNCIL MEMBER KROLL. I'VE MET ON THE BEACH SIDE WITH MANAGEMENT AND BUT NOT ON THE GOLF SIDE BECAUSE THERE'S CONSTRUCTION GOING ON TIME. SO ON THE GOLF SIDE. YEAH. OKAY. YEAH. THANK YOU. RESIDENTIAL SIDE. YEAH. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER BARTON FAMILIAR WITH THE SITE, HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH STAFF JUST TO GET CLARITY ON THE AGENDA ITEM. KRAMER SAME WITH THE SITE AND WENT OVER ALL THE AGENDA ITEMS LIKE I ALWAYS DO. STAFF. THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER SCHULTZ. I DID VISIT THE SITE AND WENT OVER IT WITH THE THE MANAGER AND CONSTRUCTION MANAGER. SO I'M VERY AWARE, AWARE OF WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO DO. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.COUNCIL MEMBER PENMAN FAMILIAR WITH THE SITE. I'VE HAD NO CONTACT, BUT I HAVE BEEN FOLLOWING THE BEACH CLUB'S EFFORTS RELATIVE TO MEETING WITH NEIGHBORHOODS IN THE CONTIGUOUS AREA. AND VICE MAYOR. YES, I MET WITH JAY AND DIEGO A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO TO GET AN OVERALL UPDATE ON THE STATUS OF THE FOUR SEASONS PROJECT. YESTERDAY I MET WITH DIEGO ON SITE AND HAD A TOUR OF THE PROPERTY AND WENT AROUND TO SEE EACH ONE OF THESE SITES. THAT IS PROPOSED FOR OUTDOOR ENTERTAINMENT. I'VE HAD EMAILS AND CONVERSATIONS WITH NEIGHBORS, PARTICULARLY PRESIDENTS OF THE NEIGHBORING HOA'S, REGARDING THEIR INPUT AND THE EMAILS THAT I RECEIVED, I FORWARDED TO THE CLERK FOR INCLUSION IN THE PUBLIC RECORD.
THANK YOU. I HAVE NOT HAD A CHANCE TO MEET WITH STAFF FROM THE FOUR SEASONS. AT THIS POINT, I MET WITH STAFF TO DISCUSS SOME CLARIFICATIONS WITHIN THE ITEMS, HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY AND RECEIVED EMAILS. AND WITH THAT AND NOTHING FURTHER. GOOD MORNING. YOU'LL STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD? YES. GOOD MORNING MAYOR, VICE MAYOR COUNCIL. MY NAME IS CLAY BROOKER WITH THE LAW FIRM OF CHAFEE, PASSIDOMO 820 ONE FIFTH AVENUE SOUTH. A COUPLE HOUSEKEEPING MATTERS BEFORE WE LAUNCH IN. FIRST AND FOREMOST, WE WOULD LIKE TO CONVEY OUR WELL WISHES TO MR. MCCONNELL AND HIS WIFE. WE WISH THEM A HAPPY AND SAFE ARRIVAL THAT HASN'T OCCURRED YET FOR THEM. AND IF YOU COULD CONVEY MR. DYCKMAN OUR WELL WISHES IN THAT REGARD, I'D APPRECIATE IT. SECONDLY, THE 11 A IS THE. IS
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THE OUTDOOR APPLICATION. 11 B IS THE INDOOR APPLICATION TWO SEPARATE APPLICATIONS? IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING TWO SEPARATE VOTES WOULD BE REQUIRED FOR EACH OF THOSE APPLICATIONS, OR ONE VOTE FOR EACH OF THOSE TWO APPLICATIONS. MY PRESENTATION COMBINES THE TWO. IT SHOWS BOTH OUTDOOR AND INDOOR LOCATIONS, SO I WOULD REQUEST RESPECTFULLY, THAT I PRESENT THE ENTIRE PACKAGE TO YOU, IF YOU WILL, BOTH OUTDOOR AND INDOOR, AND WE COULD THEN PROCEED IN THAT MANNER. OTHERWISE, I CAN TRY TO PARCEL OUT THE OUTDOOR VERSUS THE INDOOR. AS WE AS WE PROCEED, YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND GIVE YOUR PRESENTATION ON THAT, BUT WE SHOULD HAVE READ, I CAN READ THAT PRIOR TO AND THEN HAD THE RESOLUTION. SO WHY DON'T YOU JUST GO AHEAD AND PROCEED WITH THIS OUTDOOR FIRST. OKAY? OKAY. WILL DO. THANK YOU. AS I MENTIONED, I REPRESENT THE APPLICANT FOR BOTH OF THE APPLICATIONS 11 A AND 11 B OUTDOOR. AND INDOORS WITH ME ARE J. NEWMAN, THE ATHENS GROUP, AND DIEGO ANGARITA, THE GENERAL MANAGER OF THE FOUR SEASONS HOTEL. WE ARE REQUESTING APPROVAL FOR BOTH INDOOR AND OUTDOOR LIVE ENTERTAINMENT OFFERINGS AT THE HOTEL RESORT. THESE APPLICATIONS WERE FIRST BRIEFLY INTRODUCED TO CITY COUNCIL ON JANUARY 1ST, A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO, AND SOME COUNCIL MEMBERS PROVIDED CONCEPTUAL FEEDBACK. AT THAT TIME, THE APPLICATIONS WERE CONTINUED TO TODAY TO ALLOW FOR NEIGHBORHOOD OUTREACH EFFORTS WHICH WERE UNDERTAKEN AND WHICH HAVE RESULTED IN MODIFICATIONS AND CLARIFICATIONS TO THE LIVE ENTERTAINMENT REQUEST. AS A GENERAL OVERVIEW. OVERVIEW. AND I'M GOING TO SUMMARIZE. THERE'S A LOT OF WORDS ON THE SHEET, AND I APOLOGIZE IN ADVANCE FOR THAT. BUT AS A GENERAL OVERVIEW OF THE APPLICATIONS, PLEASE NOTE THAT THIS IS A LUXURY HIGH END FOUR SEASONS RESORT, ALL LIVE ENTERTAINMENT PROGRAMING WILL BE APPROPRIATE AND CURATED FOR THE AMBIANCE OF THAT EXCLUSIVE SETTING. THE LIVE ENTERTAINMENT WILL BE COMPLEMENTARY TO THE HOTEL'S SOPHISTICATED GUESTS, ITS RESTAURANTS, AND ITS MEETING SPACES. IN THAT REGARD, THERE WILL BE NO MUSIC EVENTS OR CONCERTS TARGETED TARGETING THE GENERAL PUBLIC OR OUTSIDE USERS. NO TICKETED EVENTS, FOR EXAMPLE. AGAIN, THE FOCUS OF THE LIVE ENTERTAINMENT WILL BE THE HOTEL RESORT'S GUESTS AND VISITORS. AT THE JANUARY 21ST MEETING, WE HEARD CONCERNS AND QUESTIONS AS TO WHETHER ALL OF THE PROPOSED OUTDOOR ALTERNATIVE LOCATIONS FOR LIVE ENTERTAINMENT COULD BE IN USE SIMULTANEOUSLY, ALL LOCATIONS FIRING AT ONCE. THAT WAS NEVER THE INTENTION AND WE HAVE OFFERED THE FOLLOWING LIMITATION NO MORE THAN TWO OUTDOOR LOCATIONS ON THE SEAWARD OR GULF SIDE OF THE RESORT, AND NO MORE THAN TWO OUTDOOR LOCATIONS ON THE LANDWARD SIDE EAST OF WILSHIRE BOULEVARD NORTH. OTHER RESORT MAY BE IN CONCURRENT USE. THIS LIMITATION HAS BEEN RECOMMENDED BY STAFF AND INCLUDED IN THE DRAFT RESOLUTIONS IN THE AGENDA MATERIALS ALREADY WITH REGARD TO NOISE MANAGEMENT, SPECIAL EFFORTS WILL BE EMPLOYED TO ENSURE COMPLIANCE WITH THE CITY'S NOISE CONTROL ORDINANCE.SPEAKERS WILL BE ORIENTED INTERNALLY AWAY FROM ADJACENT PROPERTIES, STANDARDIZED AVI OR AUDIOVISUAL EQUIPMENT WILL BE UTILIZED, AND THAT EQUIPMENT WILL BE APPROVED BY FOUR SEASONS IN ADVANCE. DECIBEL METERS AND SOUND CONTROLS WILL BE EMPLOYED TO ENSURE THAT THE DECIBEL LIMITATIONS IMPOSED BY THE CITY'S NOISE CONTROL ORDINANCE ARE HONORED AGAIN, THESE MEASURES HAVE BEEN INCORPORATED AS CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL IN THE DRAFT RESOLUTIONS, AND WE HAVE NO OBJECTION TO THEM. FINALLY, OUTDOOR LIVE ENTERTAINMENT, AS A GENERAL RULE, WILL CEASE BY 10 P.M. AND THAT IS A STANDARD CONDITION IMPOSED IN THE CITY'S CODE. SINCE THE JANUARY 21ST COUNCIL MEETING AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD OUTREACH EFFORT, SEVERAL CHANGES AND CLARIFICATIONS HAVE BEEN MADE TO THE LIVE ENTERTAINMENT REQUESTS BEFORE YOU TODAY, AS SHOWN HERE ON THE SCREEN. THE FIRST ONE THERE IS THE MAXIMUM TWO IN USE OUTDOOR LOCATIONS AT ANY GIVEN TIME ON. ON A SEAWARD AND LANDWARD SIDE THAT IS A MAXIMUM FOR CONCURRENT USE. THE NUMBER OF ALTERNATIVE OUTDOOR VENUES HAS BEEN REDUCED FROM 16 TO 11. THE RESIDENTIAL AREA WHAT WE REFER TO AS BUILDINGS, RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS A, B AND C NORTH OF THE HOTEL ON THE WATER SIDE, AND THE GOLF COURSE. THOSE ELEMENTS, THOSE CONCEPTS OF THE OF THE RESORT HAVE BEEN REMOVED FROM TODAY'S APPLICATION. THEY WILL BE ADDRESSED BY A FUTURE APPLICATION AND A FUTURE HEARING BEFORE CITY COUNCIL.
AND THEN AS I MENTIONED, THE USE OF STANDARDIZED AV EQUIPMENT, SOUND LIMITERS AND DECIBEL METERS WILL BE EMPLOYED TO ENSURE CONSISTENCY WITH THE CITY'S NOISE CONTROL ORDINANCE.
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AS I MENTIONED, THE COMMUNITY OUTREACH MEETINGS OCCURRED AND THEY OCCURRED ON FEBRUARY 3RD AND FEBRUARY 5TH. INVITATIONS WERE SENT TO NEARBY RESIDENTS AND THE MEETINGS WERE ATTENDED BY A TOTAL OF 162 PEOPLE. IN ADDITION, DIRECT ENGAGEMENT OCCURRED WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER TO THE IMMEDIATE SOUTH OF THE HOTEL ACROSS EIGHTH AVENUE SOUTH, AND IT'S OUR UNDERSTANDING THAT THAT PROPERTY OWNER'S CONCERNS HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED TO HIS SATISFACTION. HERE IS A A SLIDE OF THE PROPOSED INDOOR AREAS ON THE HOTEL SEAWARD SIDE. YOU'LL SEE THE. THE TWO AREAS ARE PROPOSED. ONE IS IN WHAT'S CALLED THE MERCHANT ROOM AND THE OTHER IS IN WHAT IS DESCRIBED AS THE JUNIOR BALLROOM. THIS IS A. A DEPICTION OF THE OUTDOOR ALTERNATIVE LOCATIONS PROPOSED BY THE. FOR THE HOTEL SIDE, NUMBER ONE IS THE MERCHANT ROOM. TERRACE. NUMBER TWO IS THE MAIN POOL AREA. NUMBER THREE IS THE EVENT LAWN. NUMBER FOUR IS THE SUNSET BAR. NUMBER FIVE IS H B. NUMBER SIX IS THE NORTH SIDE OF THE SUNSET OR FAMILY POOL. AND NUMBER SEVEN IS THE PRESIDENTIAL SUITE POOL TERRACE.FLIPPING NOW TO THE LANDWARD SIDE ON THE EAST SIDE OF GULF SHORE BOULEVARD NORTH. HERE ARE THE TWO PROPOSED INDOOR LOCATIONS. NUMBER ONE IS THE BALLROOM OR CONFERENCE CENTER, AND NUMBER TWO IS WHAT'S REFERRED TO AS THE PAVILION, THE PART OF THE CLUBHOUSE. AND THE OUTDOOR LIVE ENTERTAINMENT PLAN FOR THE LANDWARD SIDE. SHOWN HERE IS NUMBER ONE IS THE LAWN SPACE. NUMBER TWO IS THE OUTDOOR PORTION OF WHAT WILL BE KNOWN AS, OR WHAT IS KNOWN AS THE WAGER RESTAURANT. NUMBER THREE IS AN OUTDOOR TERRACE KNOWN AS THE CAMELLIA TERRACE, AND NUMBER FOUR IS THE CLUBHOUSE LAWN. THAT IS A. A VERY BRIEF AND SUMMARIZE PRESENTATION. AND THAT CONCLUDES OUR PRIMARY PRESENTATION. CITY STAFF HAS ANALYZED THESE LIVE ENTERTAINMENT REQUESTS AGAINST THE CRITERIA SET FORTH IN THE CITY'S CODE, AND STAFF HAS CONCLUDED THAT THE CRITERIA HAVE BEEN MET. IN ADDITION, ALL OF THE LIVE ENTERTAINMENT LOCATIONS SHOWN HAVE BEEN REVIEWED BY THE FIRE MARSHAL FOR LIFE SAFETY OR COMPLIANCE WITH LIFE SAFETY RELATED FIRE CODE REGULATIONS. WE HAVE NO ISSUE WITH THE PROPOSED CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL IN THE DRAFT RESOLUTIONS THAT ARE PART OF YOUR AGENDA MATERIALS, WITH ONE EXCEPTION. BOTH OF THE RESOLUTIONS INCLUDE A CONDITION THAT ALL AMPLIFIED MUSIC MUST COME FROM PERMANENTLY INSTALLED SPEAKERS. RESPECTFULLY, WE REQUEST THAT THAT CONDITION BE REMOVED. WE UNDERSTAND IT IS A STANDARD CONDITION THAT IS SEEN IN MOST RESTAURANT TYPE OF LIVE ENTERTAINMENT APPLICATIONS AS OF LATE, BUT WE REQUEST THAT THAT CONDITION BE REMOVED FROM THE RESOLUTIONS UNDER THESE UNIQUE CIRCUMSTANCES. SEVERAL OF OUR INDOOR LOCATIONS THE BALLROOM, THE JUNIOR BALLROOM, THE PAVILION, FOR EXAMPLE, HAVE MULTIPLE STAGE AND SEATING TABLES, SEATING CONFIGURATIONS. INSIDE THOSE MEETING SPACES.
THE RESORT NEEDS THE FLEXIBILITY TO RESPOND TO DIFFERENT EVENTS WITH APPROPRIATE CONFIGURATIONS, WHICH REQUIRES THE ABILITY TO MOVE SPEAKERS AROUND FROM SPOT TO SPOT WITHIN THOSE INDOOR LOCATIONS. SO WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT THE CONDITIONS REQUIRING PERMANENTLY INSTALLED SPEAKERS BE REMOVED FOR FROM THE RESOLUTIONS. WITH THAT, I'LL CONCLUDE WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL OF THE APPLICATIONS, AND WE'RE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE AT THIS TIME. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. I JUST HAVE SOME QUESTIONS ON SOME DETAILS AND THANK YOU. I THINK THAT YOU HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB AT WORKING WITH THE RESIDENTS AND ALSO. TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION THE TIME. MY CONCERN IS THE GULF SIDE, THE FACT THAT THERE WASN'T OR THERE HASN'T BEEN IN THE PAST, ENTERTAINMENT ON THAT SIDE. SO THAT'S MY ONE ISSUE. BUT I'LL, I THINK I NEED TO ALSO HAVE
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SOME THE STAFF REPORT TO UNDERSTAND THAT BETTER BECAUSE THIS IS A RESIDENTIAL AREA, EVEN THOUGH THIS IS A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY NOW THAT IS WITHIN A RESIDENTIAL AREA. I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT YOUR REQUEST IS ON THAT RESOLUTION IS ON NUMBER TEN FOR THE PERMANENT SPEAKERS. YES, I BELIEVE IT'S NUMBER TEN ON THE OUTDOOR LIVE ENTERTAINMENT RESOLUTION, AND I BELIEVE IT'S NUMBER EIGHT ON THE INDOOR RESOLUTION. THAT IS THE THOSE ARE THE TWO CONDITIONS THEY READ, I BELIEVE, PRECISELY THE SAME. AND WE WOULD REQUEST THAT THEY BE OMITTED FROM BOTH. IT'S A STANDARD CONDITION THAT WE INCLUDE IN ALL LIVE ENTERTAINMENT PERMITS. YES. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR, CAN I MAY I ASK FOR CLARIFICATION? SO YOUR OBJECTION IS TO THE WORD PERMANENT ONLY. CAN WE LEAVE THE REST OF THE CONDITION IN THERE? THE INTENT OF THAT CONDITION IS LESS TO DO WITH THE LOCATION OF THE SPEAKERS AND MORE TO DO WITH CONTROL, NOISE CONTROL OF THOSE SPEAKERS. AND SO IT WAS TO AVOID, YOU KNOW, EVERY TIME YOU HIRE A NEW BAND, THEY COME IN WITH THEIR OWN AV EQUIPMENT THAT DOESN'T HAVE THAT REGULATOR ON THE VOLUME. THAT'S THE INTENT OF THE CONDITION. RIGHT. SO, MR. BROOKER, IF YOU NOTICE THAT IF WE TAKE OUT THE WORD PERMANENT, WE STILL HAVE THE ABILITY TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S AS AS MISS MARTIN STATED, A CONTROL SYSTEM WITH ONE PERSON THAT HAS ACCESS TO THAT ABILITY TO TURN THE VOLUME UP AND DOWN, THAT KIND OF THING. YEAH, YEAH. AND I APPRECIATE THAT CLARIFICATION. FRANKLY, I, I DIDN'T READ THE REST OF IT BECAUSE I JUST SAW PERMANENT. BUT YEAH. SO IF, IF THE WORD PERMANENT IS REMOVED, YEAH, THE REMAINDER IS OKAY TO STAY IN BECAUSE THAT'S OUR INTENTION. EVERYTHING ELSE WAS OUR INTENTION ALREADY. IT'S ACTUALLY KIND OF YOU HAVE SIMILAR LANGUAGE IN YOUR PROPOSAL, RIGHT? FOR THE EQUIPMENT, RIGHT. IT'S THAT STANDARDIZING THE EQUIPMENT. THANK YOU, MR. DICKMAN, FOR THAT CLARIFICATION. THE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE IS THAT YOU ARE ASKING FOR SEAWARD OUTDOOR ENTERTAINMENT. CORRECT? CORRECT. AND HOW DOES THAT WORK IN OPERATIONS FOR YOU? WELL, NOT YOU, BUT HOW WOULD THE OPERATOR WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE IS. WELL, PERHAPS I CAN ASK DIEGO TO ADDRESS THE LOGISTICS IF THAT'S WHAT I'M UNDERSTANDING THE QUESTION TO BE. BUT THERE ARE ALTERNATIVE LOCATIONS OUTDOORS THAT COULD BE, FOR EXAMPLE, THERE COULD BE A GUITARIST PLAYING. AND THEN UP ON THE MERCHANT ROOM TERRACE. VIOLINIST SPECIFICALLY. YEAH, I MEANT THE BEACH AREA. IS THAT IN THE INTENTION? NOTHING. ON THE BEACH, ON THE SAND.EVERYTHING IS WITHIN OUR STRUCTURE OF OF THE RESORT. IF THAT'S IF THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE.
YEAH. SO WE AREN'T FAMILIAR WITH ALL OF THE APPROVALS THAT YOU'VE HAD SO FAR. YOU HAVEN'T HAD A SPECIAL EVENT THAT HAS OCCURRED ON THE BEACH ITSELF. AND, YOU KNOW, MR. DIEGO, IF YOU'LL GET SWORN IN, PLEASE. RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND, PLEASE. DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU'RE ABOUT TO GIVE BE THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? YES.
THANK YOU, THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING, CHAIR DIEGO ANGARITA. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. NO, THE INTENTION IS NOT TO HAVE ANY CONTAINMENT ON THE BEACH. FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE HAD A CHANCE TO GO TO THE PROPERTY, YOU'VE SEEN THE LOCATIONS THAT WE HAVE IDENTIFIED ARE ALL ON THE PROPERTY LINE. IT'S NOTHING ON THE SAND. AND THE SPACE IS LIMITED TO WHERE IT WILL PROBABLY BE VERY SMALL ENTERTAINMENT OF 1 OR 2 MUSICIANS THAT COMPLEMENTS THE COCKTAIL PARTY. NONE OF THIS HAS, MR. BOOKER SAID, WILL BE A CONCERT OR ANYTHING THAT WILL BE A LARGE PRODUCTION. RIGHT? BUT SPECIFICALLY YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE OTHER LOCATIONS, CORRECT? CORRECT. IT'S JUST WHEN I LOOK AT THE RESOLUTION AND THAT YOU HAVE TO APPLY FOR THE CC C PERMIT WITHIN THAT RESOLUTION, I IT MAKES ME THINK I REALIZE WHERE THE LOCATION OF THE HOTEL IS FORWARD, BUT THAT IT'S INDICATED THAT YOU WOULD HAVE TO GET A SPECIAL PERMIT TO BE ABLE TO, TO HAVE AN EVENT ON THE BEACH. AND THAT'S NOT YOUR INTENTION. WE WILL DO EVENTS ON THE BEACH, BUT NOT ENTERTAINMENT. SO WE MAY HAVE A DINNER, WHICH WE'VE WE'VE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE, BUT WE WOULD NOT DO IT WITH THE LIBRARY STAYS IN THOSE SPECIFIC SPOTS THAT WE'VE HIGHLIGHTED IN THIS PRESENTATION. OKAY. SO THE CONDITION NUMBER SIX IS NOT FOR
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LIVE ENTERTAINMENT OUTDOORS. IT'S TO HAVE A FUNCTION ON THE BEACH OUTDOORS. CORRECT. I CAN PROBABLY HELP. I'LL GET THERE. YEAH. THE CONDITION THAT'S IN THE RESOLUTION. SO THE, THE REVISED PLANS THAT ARE BEFORE YOU TODAY DO NOT SHOW ANY LOCATIONS ON THE BEACH. THEY'RE THEY'RE ALL WITHIN THE THE HOTEL PROPERTY. WHAT THAT CONDITION IS MORE OF A HEADS UP OR A WARNING TO THE PETITIONER THAT ANYTHING THAT YOU DO WITHIN THE DUNE SYSTEM OR ON THE BEACH WOULD REQUIRE SPECIAL PERMITTING. SO THE LIVE ENTERTAINMENT PERMIT, SHOULD YOU APPROVE IT TODAY, DOES NOT PERMIT THEM TO DO ANY EVENTS ON THE BEACH. THOSE WOULD REQUIRE SPECIAL EVENT PERMITS INDIVIDUALLY. AND WHAT WE'RE LETTING THE PETITIONER KNOW HERE IS THAT THOSE SPECIAL EVENT PERMITS. NOT ONLY DO YOU NEED TO GET SPECIAL A SPECIAL EVENT PERMIT, THERE'S CL PERMITTING, THERE'S ALSO STATE PERMITTING. SO THERE'S A NUMBER OF STEPS THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO TAKE TO HAVE EVENTS ON THE BEACH. AND THIS LIVE ENTERTAINMENT PERMIT IS NOT ONE OF THEM. THIS DOES NOT ALLOW FOR ANY OF THAT. SO BUT IT IS ALLOWING FOR EVENTS TO BE HELD ON THE BEACH. THIS DOES NOT ALLOW EVENTS TO BE HELD ON THE BEACH. IF IF THEY APPLY THIS DOESN'T ALLOW IT, THEY WOULD HAVE. IN ORDER TO HAVE AN EVENT ON THE BEACH, THEY WOULD NEED SEPARATE PERMITS, RIGHT? NOT THIS, BUT THEY WOULD STILL HAVE TO HAVE THE APPROVALS WHICH ARE UNDER THIS RESOLUTION. THEY WOULD STILL HAVE TO HAVE APPROVAL FROM THE STATE AND APPROVAL FROM THE CITY AND A SPECIAL EVENT PERMIT. OKAY. I'M NOT SURE IF YOU'RE THE EXPERT ON THAT. IF MR. MERRITT CAN EXPLAIN HOW THAT PROCESS WORKS.RESWORN AND MR. MERRITT. CAN AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU'RE ABOUT TO GIVE YOU THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH. GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING.
COMMUNITY SERVICES DIRECTOR CHAD MERRITT. THE SPECIAL EVENT PROCESSES. IT COVERS, IF YOU REMEMBER, IN THE DEFINITIONS, IT'S ANYTHING THAT'S OUTSIDE OF THE. THE PURPOSE OF WHAT THE PROPERTY OR THE ORGANIZATION WAS INTENDED. SO FOR THIS CASE, THE BEACH, ANYTIME YOU DO A SPECIAL EVENT, WHICH IS SOMETHING OUTSIDE A LARGE GATHERING, AND YOU KNOW WHAT THE CRITERIA, THE CRITERIA FOR YOU, ALL THAT REQUIRES APPROVAL IS EVENTS OVER 1500 ROAD CLOSURES, FIREWORKS, PARADES, ANY OUTSIDE PARKING OR OFF SITE PARKING. AND THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE BRING TO YOU ALL. BUT WHEN YOU HAVE AN EVENT THE SIZE, IT'S STILL THEY HAVE TO APPLY FOR IT, JUST LIKE SOME OF THE OTHER ORGANIZATIONS THROUGHOUT THE CITY HAVE TO APPLY FOR IT, EVEN THOUGH IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO COME TO YOU ALL. SO IF THEY DON'T DO AMPLIFIED SOUND, THEN AMPLIFIED SOUND IS NOT GOING TO REQUIRE IT TO COME TO YOU ALL.
SO THEIR PROCESS WOULD BE TO SUBMIT THE APPLICATION. IF IT'S A ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVAL, IT'S 90 DAYS PRIOR TO THE EVENT. IF IT'S REQUIRES CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL, IT'S 120 DAYS PRIOR TO THE EVENT. SO IT REALLY DEPENDS ON WHAT IT IS. MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE IF THEY'RE DOING ANYTHING ON THE BEACH TO REACH OUT AS FAR IN ADVANCE AS POSSIBLE, SO THAT WE CAN WORK THROUGH THAT PROCESS. BECAUSE I'VE RUN INTO THIS WITH THE EVENTS THAT TAKE PLACE ON THE BEACH, WE CAN PERMIT IT FROM THE EVENT SIDE, BUT WE DON'T OVERRIDE ANYTHING FROM AN ENVIRONMENTAL SIDE. THAT HAPPENS WITH FDEP. AND THIS HAPPENED WITH ANOTHER ORGANIZATION THAT WAS TRYING TO HAVE, AND I USE THIS AS AN EXAMPLE. INFLATABLES ON THE BEACH. YOU HAVE TO HAVE SPECIAL PERMISSION FROM FDEP TO HAVE THAT INFLATABLE ON THE BEACH.
SO IF THEY, IF THEY'RE INTERESTED IN DOING THAT, WE, WE WOULD ADVISE THEM TO GET THOSE APPROVALS. FIRST, TURN THOSE IN WITH APPLICATION SO THAT EVERYTHING IS TURNED IN AT THE SAME TIME. THANK YOU FOR THAT. HOW DOES THAT PROCESS WORK? DOES THE APPLICANT FILE FOR THE STATE PERMITS FIRST AND THEN TO THE CITY OR CITY AND THEN TO THE STATE? I WOULD RECOMMEND GOING TO THE STATE FIRST TO LET THEM KNOW WHAT WHAT'S HAPPENING. BECAUSE OUR FIRST QUESTION IS GOING TO BE, DID YOU GET PERMISSION FROM THE STATE TO BE ON THE BEACH WITH AN EVENT? AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO REALLY PROCESS IT UNTIL WE KNOW THAT IT'S OKAY TO HAVE IT ON THE BEACH. SO MY ADVICE WOULD BE, GO TO FTP FIRST, GET THE PERMISSIONS, FIND OUT WHAT CRITERIA. NATALIE IS A GREAT RESOURCE, NOT THROWN UNDER THE BUS, BUT SHE'S A GREAT RESOURCE FOR THAT AND SHE WOULD BE ABLE TO HELP IF THEY HAD ANY QUESTIONS ON WHO THEY NEED TO CONTACT WITH THAT. AND SHE WOULD PROBABLY HAVE A LOT MORE INFORMATION THAN I DO IN THAT PROCESS. AND THEN THAT DEPARTMENT WOULD APPROVE THAT SPECIAL ALONG WITH YOU APPROVING THAT SPECIAL EVENT. FTP WOULD MOST LIKELY, I'M ASSUMING THEY WOULD PROVIDE THEM SOME KIND OF WRITTEN CONFIRMATION THAT THEY CAN HAVE IT ON. I THINK THERE'S A PERMIT THAT THEY PROVIDE ON A TEMPORARY BASIS, AND THEN THEY WOULD ATTACH THAT TO THEIR
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APPLICATION. THEY SUBMIT TO US THROUGH THE SPECIAL EVENT PROCESS. YEAH. THE REASON I'M GOING THROUGH THIS, BECAUSE THE LAST THING WE NEED IS FOR YOU NOT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT PROCESS IS. SO IT'S GOOD TO GET THAT UPFRONT. HOW LONG DOES THAT NOR DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA I CAN GET THAT FROM. MR. MAYOR, CAN I RECOMMEND THAT NATALIE COME UP AND TALK ABOUT THOSE PERMITS HERSELF AS OPPOSED TO MR. MERRITT? THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. YOUNG. AND MAYOR, JUST, IF I MAY, JUST. THAT IS THE NORMAL COURSE OF PROCEDURE. WHEN WE'RE DEALING WITH THESE KINDS OF THINGS. WE WILL BE IMMEDIATELY IN TOUCH WITH NATALIE. AND CONCURRENTLY, WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING TO THE D E P, D P PROCESS USUALLY TAKES A LITTLE BIT LONGER THAN THE CITY, SO IT WOULD BE OPEN COMMUNICATION, TRANSPARENCY, GETTING TALKING TO THE D, E, P AND OBVIOUSLY OPEN A LINE OF COMMUNICATION WITH NATALIE AS WELL. YEAH. AND JUST JUST SO YOU KNOW, THESE ARE JUST QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE THAT WE HAVE NOT HAD A CHANCE THAT I JUST WANT TO GET ANSWERED. THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING. NATALIE HARTMAN, NATURAL RESOURCES MANAGER. I WAS SWORN IN WHEN WE WHEN SHE DID THE SWEARING IN AT THE BEGINNING. THANK YOU. SO THE PROCESS, IF YOU'RE GOING TO DO AN EVENT ON THE BEACH, YOU WOULD PREFERABLY CHECK WITH THE EPA TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE NOT TRIPPING ANY OF THEIR THRESHOLDS. AND ONCE YOU GO AND CHECK WITH THEM AND SEE WHAT IT IS, MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING'S VETTED BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO GO TO OTHER AGENCIES. IF THEY'RE GOING TO DO LIKE ANY KIND OF LIGHTING OR DEPENDING ON WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO. THEY DO HAVE OTHER AGENCIES THAT THEY HAVE TO CONFER WITH. ONCE THAT GETS DETERMINED AND THEY ISSUE THEIR PERMITS, OURS IS PRETTY QUICK AND EASY. WE WOULD JUST TAKE THAT SAME INFORMATION AND MAKE SURE IT'S, YOU KNOW, CLARIFY ANY POINTS THAT ARE NEEDED FOR OUR CODE REQUIREMENTS, AND THEN WE CAN GO THROUGH AND ISSUE THE PERMIT IN CONJUNCTION WITH, YOU KNOW, CHAD'S PERMITS. YEAH, I DON'T HAVE, YOU KNOW, IT COULD TAKE DEPENDS ON HOW BUSY THEY ARE. YOU KNOW, THEY MIGHT TAKE TWO WEEKS TO DO GO THROUGH DEP. IT MIGHT TAKE 30 DAYS TO GO THROUGH DEP. I'M NOT THAT'S NOT KIND OF IN MY VENUE, HOW LONG IT'S GOING TO TAKE THEM TO, TO, YOU KNOW, ISSUE THEIR PERMITS.BUT OURS, YOU KNOW, WE USUALLY CAN DO SOMETHING WITHIN TWO WEEKS. THANK YOU. FOR THANK YOU.
SO HOW MANY EVENTS HAVE YOU HAD ON THE BEACH? NONE. MY ONLY CONCERN IS. THAT. THE LIGHTING.
I LEARNED THAT FROM THEM AND. I. NEED IS ON. MADAM MAYOR, ON THE BEACH. MOST OF WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR HERE IS THE FLEXIBILITY. BECAUSE PRECISELY, I DON'T KNOW A NUMBER, AS I VERY WELL MIGHT HAVE AN INQUIRY FOR A WEDDING THIS WEEK. IT MAY BE SIX MONTHS FROM NOW.
UNDERSTANDING THE TIMELINE FOR A SPECIAL PERMIT, WE WOULD DEFINITELY INCLUDE THAT TO THE CLIENT AND LET THEM KNOW IF YOU WANTED TO HAVE AN EVENT THERE. THESE ARE THE STEPS THAT WE REQUIRE, AND THIS IS THE TIMELINE THAT HAS TO HAPPEN. AND THEY WOULD HAVE TO HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY TO ADJUST TO THAT. RIGHT? SO THAT'S MY CONCERN FOR THOSE. YOU MIGHT SUGGEST IF YOU WANT TO DO IT ON THE BEACH. SO I'M, I'M TRYING TO BE MORE PROACTIVE THAN REACTIVE TO THE SITUATION TO BECAUSE THE PROCESS FOR NOISE VIOLATIONS IS QUITE CUMBERSOME. AND USUALLY IT'S YOU HAVE TO BRING IN THE POLICE AND IT'S JUST, IT CAN, YOU KNOW, AND I'M JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE VET THIS. SO WE UNDERSTAND THAT WHAT YOUR INTENTIONS MIGHT BE FOR THE FUTURE AND ALLOWING COMPANIES TO COME AND THAT THAT'S AN OPTION FOR THEM TO DO IT ON THE BEACH. AND IT COULD BE EVERY WEEKEND. AGAIN, I, I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO THAT WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD. CONCERNS WITH BEACH ACTIVITIES OR EVEN HAVING LIGHTING AND ENTERTAINMENT DOWN ON THE BEACH. I WOULD SAY HAVING SEEN THE OPERATION FOR THE FIRST FOUR MONTHS, I WOULD
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BE AND THAT'S MY SCOPE. I WOULD BE SHOCKED IF WE ARE HAVING A EVENT ON THE BEACH EVERY WEEKEND. I WOULD BE SHOCKED THAT WE ARE HAVING AN EVENT IN ALL THESE AREAS. I THINK, AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, AND SOME OF YOU THAT HAVE HAD A CHANCE TO WALK THROUGH THE AREA, THE ONE AREA THAT HAS PROBABLY THE MOST POSSIBILITY OF CONSISTENT LIVE ENTERTAINMENT WILL BE SUNSET BAR, VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT IT WAS BEFORE WITH THE CADENCE, BUT DEFINITELY NOT AT THE VOLUME LEVEL THAT THE OLD BAR HAD. THIS IS VERY DIFFERENT BAR, AS SOME OF YOU HAVE SEEN IT GEARED TO A VERY DIFFERENT CLIENT WITH A DIFFERENT ENVIRONMENT. YEAH, BUT THE CADENCE WOULD BE SIMILAR. OKAY. AND THANK YOU. I HAVE I THINK YOU'RE RUNNING IT VERY WELL. I DON'T HAVE ANY ISSUES WITH THAT WITH THE. HBS, THE LOCATION. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN PUT THAT ON THE MAP. SURE. IT'S LOCATION. GO BACK LOCATION FIVE IF I AM. YEAH, THEY SHOULD BE LABELED ALSO, I THINK FOR LOCATION PURPOSES FOR STAFF THAT THOSE SHOULD REALLY BE LABELED ON WHAT THEY, WHAT AREAS THEY ARE. BUT ON FIVE ON THE IT'S THE LIFE SAFETY PLAN. IF I'M READING IT CORRECTLY, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN PUT THE LIFE SAFETY PLAN UP. IS THAT IN THE CORNER OR CLOSEST TO THE WEST, OR IS IT WITHIN THE INSIDE IT'S H B'S. IT'S ON THE PATIO. AS YOU COME OUT FROM THE BAR. HERE YOU GO. SO YOU CAN SEE THE BAR. YOU CAN HAVE A DO I HAVE A, A POINTER? THE MOUSE WILL SHOW. OKAY, SO THIS IS THE BAR RIGHT HERE OF HBS. THIS IS ALL INDOORS. THIS IS THE EXIT TO THE OUTDOOR PATIO. GOT IT. RIGHT. SO IT IS COVERED, BUT IT'S ON THE OUTDOOR PATIO. HENCE WHY WE PLACED IT ON THE OUTDOOR APPLICATION. AND DO YOU HAVE A LIMITATION ON WHETHER IT'LL BE ACOUSTICAL OR FIVE PIECE BAND? DO YOU HAVE ANY ISSUES? IF YOU REMEMBER, FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO'VE SEEN THE SPOT, IT'S TOO SMALL FOR A FIVE PIECE BAND. IT WOULD POSSIBLY BE AGAIN, FLEXIBILITY, MAYBE 1 OR 2 PERFORMERS. IF IT ISN'T ACOUSTICAL, IT'LL PROBABLY BE WITH A SPEAKER. AGAIN, BECAUSE OF THE LIMITATION OF THE SIZE, WE WOULD DO IT TO ACCOMPANY A BRUNCH EVENT OR A ANOTHER MEAL. AGAIN, NOT OPPOSED TO IT. I'M JUST CONCERNED ABOUT THE LOCATION OF IT AND IT'S FACING SOUTH. THOSE SPEAKERS WOULD FACE SOUTH, AND WE KNOW HOW SOUND TRAVELS. SO, YOU KNOW, PUTTING A LIMITATION ON THE NUMBER. ABSOLUTELY. THAT'S ALSO WHY IF I GO BACK TO THE WE'VE COMMITTED TO THE 60DB ON THE PROPERTY LINE. SO GOING ALL THE WAY SOUTH. LET ME SEE. GO BACK. YEAH. SO YOU CAN SEE FROM WHERE FIVE IS TO WHERE THE PROPERTY LINE SOUTH, YOU STILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH THAT ENTIRE POOL AREA. FROM THE TESTING WE'VE DONE, I DO NOT HAVE CONCERN OF WHAT THE INTENT OF LIVE ENTERTAINMENT IS TO DO IN LOCATION FIVE WILL BE ABLE TO MEET THE 60DB OF PROPERTY LINE ON THE SOUTH END. WHAT'S THE BARRIER BETWEEN THAT? WHAT'S SIX SIX? IS THAT VERY SMALL EVENT COURT OR PATIO? SOME OF YOU HAVE SEEN IT. I THINK SOME OF YOU MAY HAVE GONE TO ONE OF THE EVENTS THERE. IT'S SIZE WISE, WRONG SIZE. WHAT'S THAT SIX AREA CALLED? THE FAMILY POOL. NO, NO, NO, IT'S THE I THINK WE CALL IT THE BEACH TERRACE. I REMEMBER CORRECTLY FAMILY POOL IS NUMBER TWO AGAIN. WE NEED TO LABEL THESE. I THOUGHT IT WAS OKAY. SO IF IT'S NOT THE FAMILY POOL, WE ALL NEED TO GET THE SAME TERMINOLOGY. YES. THANK YOU SIR.OKAY. GOT IT. NO, THE FAMILY POOL. YOU CAN SEE IT'S THE ONE ON THE RIGHT. THAT WAS THE LOCATION ON THE PREVIOUS APPLICATION. WE REMOVED THAT LOCATION. SO IT'S ONLY THAT TERRACE. HOW BIG IS IT? I THINK THE SIZE IS 30 BY 30. I'M SORRY. IT WAS VERY DIFFICULT FOR ME TO FOLLOW. THAT'S THE ONLY REASON I'M HAVING TO ASK THESE DETAILED QUESTIONS. THAT'S FINE.
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IF THE SCREEN IS ON UP RIGHT NOW. SHOWS ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE WAS WHAT OUR ORIGINAL APPLICATION SHOWED, AND MR. ANGARITA WAS JUST REFERRING TO NUMBER EIGHT ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE OF THE SCREEN. THAT WAS A LOCATION FOR THE FAMILY POOL THAT WAS ORIGINALLY PROPOSED.WE HAVE ELIMINATED THAT LOCATION. AFTER DISCUSSING THE ISSUE WITH THE NEIGHBOR TO THE SOUTH, FRANKLY. AND SO THAT HAS BEEN ELIMINATED FROM OUR PROPOSAL ALTOGETHER. THE PROPOSAL TODAY BEFORE YOU IS SHOWN ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE OF THE SCREEN. AND I'LL JUST ASK MISS MARTIN IF WE HAVE A COPY OF THAT THAT'S GOING TO BE INCLUDED WITH THIS RESOLUTION, BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE I DON'T HAVE THAT IN THE. DOCUMENT LABELED REVISED IN THE LIFE SAFETY PLANS, IT'S SHEET LS-016, WHICH IS THE LIFE SAFETY PLAN FOR THE HOTEL SIDE. IT IS THE LOCATION IS SHOWN. IT'S JUST THE, THE ONLY LABEL ON THERE IS THE FAMILY POOL. BUT SO RLS DASH 016 THE TITLE BLOCK DOES SAY LIVE ENTERTAINMENT FAMILY POOL, BUT IT SHOWS THIS LOCATION ON THAT LITTLE EVENT SPACE. IT DOES NOT SHOW THE LOCATION FORMALLY AS EIGHT. IT SHOWS THE NUMBER SIX LOCATION ON THE NEW PLAN, BUT IT IS TITLED STILL IN THE BLOCK AS FAMILY POOL. SO WHAT'S THE PROPER NAME FOR IT? I'M GOING WITH FAMILY POOL BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT'S ON THE PLAN. IT'S THE NORTH SIDE OF THE FAMILY POOL. MR. ANGARITA JUST CALLED IT THE BEACH TERRACE. IF THAT MAKES IF THAT'S IF WE'RE I WOULD I WOULD SAY FAMILY POOL BECAUSE THAT'S THE SET OF PLANS THAT'S IN YOUR RESOLUTION. AND THE SPECIFIC LIFE SAFETY PLAN FOR THIS LOCATION IS LABELED LIVE ENTERTAINMENT, SPECIAL EVENT PERMIT. I MEAN, IF YOU SAY BEACH TERRACE AND WE HAVE FAMILY, DON'T SAY BEACH TERRACE BECAUSE NO ONE'S GOING TO BE ABLE TO KNOW WHAT THAT IS ON A PLAN I WITHDRAWAL BEACH TERRACE, FAMILY POOL, CALL IT FAMILY POOL. IT'S WHAT'S IN OUR LIVES. YEAH IT DOES. WELL, THAT'S WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE AN OUTDOOR ENTERTAINMENT. CORRECT. NUMBER SIX. NUMBER SIX. YES. AND THAT IS WHAT IS SHOWN ON THE LIFE SAFETY. ON THE LIFE SAFETY. SO THAT IS THAT WILL NOT BE A SPECIAL EVENT, BUT THAT WILL BE A LOCATION FOR LIVE ENTERTAINMENT OUTDOORS. YES. RIGHT. RIGHT. CORRECT.
OKAY. IT'S ABOUT A FIVE BY FIVE DIMENSION SPACE. PERFECT. EIGHT, EIGHT BY EIGHT WITH A FIVE FOOT CLEARANCE, FIVE FOOT CLEARANCE. SO IT'S A, IT'S A SMALL AGAIN, I'M JUST TRYING TO CLEAR UP DETAILS. AND ALL OF THESE LIFE SAFETY PLANS ARE EXPRESSLY REFERENCED IN THE RESOLUTION.
SO IF ANYONE WERE EVER TO HAVE ANY QUESTION ABOUT EXACTLY WHERE AND THE DIMENSIONS AND ALL OF THE DETAILS OF EACH OF THESE LOCATIONS, GO STRAIGHT TO THE LIFE SAFETY PLANS THAT ARE REFERENCED EXPRESSLY IN THE DRAFT RESOLUTIONS THAT ARE IN YOUR PACKET. CORRECT. THAT'S WHAT THE FIRE MARSHAL WOULD TAKE WITH THEM IF THERE WAS A COMPLAINT. THAT'S WHAT ANYONE WOULD WOULD TAKE TO LOOK AT. OH, SO IS THAT EXHIBIT A? NO, NO IN SECTION TWO. SO THAT I DID PASS OUT A RESOLUTION THIS MORNING. THERE WAS AN ERROR IN THE DATE REFERENCE, BUT SECTION TWO OF THE RESOLUTION THAT YOU HAVE IN PAPER. YES. REFERENCES. THE TWO SETS OF PLANS. SO IT'S THE LIFE SAFETY PLANS FOR THE HOTEL SIDE AND THE LIFE SAFETY PLANS FOR THE LANDLORD SIDE. THOSE ARE THE PLANS WE'RE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW. SO THOSE WILL BE THE PLANS THAT WILL ESSENTIALLY BE GRANTED APPROVAL. AND THAT'S WHAT POLICE DEPARTMENT, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, EVERYONE WOULD WOULD REFERENCE. SHOULD THOSE BE EXHIBIT B? SORRY, SHOULD THOSE BE. WE DON'T HAVE THEM AS EXHIBITS. IT'S JUST REFERENCE. BUT WE CAN. OKAY. OKAY. SO, MR. BROOKER, WHAT ARE YOU REFERRING TO THAT IT SPECIFICALLY IS IN THIS RESOLUTION, JUST SO IT'S IT'S FOR OUR POLICE AND FIRE. SO I BELIEVE MISS MARTIN HANDED OUT THE THE DRAFT RESOLUTION JUST BEFORE WE STARTED ON PAGE TWO AT THE VERY TOP OF THE PAGE, SECTION TWO, THERE'S A REFERENCE TO LIFE SAFETY PLANS DATED FEBRUARY 6TH, 2026. THOSE ARE ALL THOSE ARE THE GOVERNING DOCUMENTS. THOSE ARE THE LIFE SAFETY PLANS THAT STAFF HAS ON FILE. AND IF THE FIRE MARSHALL OR ANYONE ELSE HAS TO LOOK EXACTLY WHAT WAS APPROVED, THEY GO STRAIGHT TO THE LIFE SAFETY PLANS, WHICH HAS MUCH MORE DETAIL THAN THE PRETTY SLIDES WE'RE SHOWING TO YOU. THE COLOR SLIDES WE'RE SHOWING TO YOU TODAY AS PART OF THE PRESENTATION. THINGS LIKE THAT SHOULD BE ATTACHED. YEAH, FOR THE RECORD. AND THEY WILL BE. YEAH. EXHIBIT A IT'LL BE B. AND YEAH, THE WE ALWAYS ATTACH THE LIFE SAFETY PLANS TO THE RESOLUTION. SO THE LIFE SAFETY PLANS WILL BE EXHIBIT B. YES. AND THEN YOUR EXHIBIT A. I HAVEN'T EVEN GOT TO THE STAFF
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REPORT. I'M GETTING DOWN. I JUST WILL GET BACK TO IT. I WANT TO MAKE SURE ALL OF THOSE LEGAL DESCRIPTIONS ARE ACCURATE AND STATE EXACTLY WHAT'S ON THAT LIFE SAFETY FAMILY POOL, NOT THE BEACH TERRACE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SORRY, COUNCIL, BUT THE RESOLUTIONS MAKE ARE IMPORTANT. ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE PETITIONER AGENT? I GOT ONE QUESTION. YES, COUNCILMEMBER, WHILE WE'RE TALKING ON THE BEACH SIDE. AND BY THE WAY, IT'S FANTASTIC PLAN AND GUYS DID A REALLY GREAT JOB WITH IT. BUT JUST MORE MAYBE A QUESTION FOR OUR PLANNER WHEN, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THESE REGULATIONS ON LIGHTING FOR TURTLE NESTING SEASON, IS THERE ANYTHING IN THE EVENT SCHEDULE THAT AFFECTS THAT DURING THAT TIME OF YEAR? SURE. THAT THAT THAT'S SCALED BACK AND THAT IS CLEAR FOR THAT. THAT'S ONE OF THE CONDITIONS IN THE RESOLUTION WE DID. OUR NATURAL RESOURCES DEPARTMENT DID NOTE THAT. AND WE DO HAVE A A CONDITION NUMBER FIVE THAT SAYS LIGHTING MUST ADHERE TO ALL STATE AND CITY REGULATIONS, INCLUDING MARINE TURTLE PROTECTION REGULATIONS. SO NOT ONLY DOES THE THE PERMANENTLY INSTALLED LIGHTING, BUT IF THEY WERE TO TRY TO HAVE AN EVENT DURING TURTLE SEASON THAT WAS VISIBLE FROM THE BEACH, THEY WOULD. THEY WOULD THEN HAVE TO COMPLY. ALSO WITH THE TURTLE LIGHTING, THEY COULDN'T BRING IN ADDITIONAL LIGHTING THAT WOULD VIOLATE. THERE'S NO RESTRICTIONS ON EVENTS. IT'S BASICALLY ONLY THE LIGHTING. IS THAT RIGHT? THERE WOULD BE RESTRICTIONS ON EVENTS. I WOULD ASK NATALIE TO GIVE MORE DETAIL ON THIS, BUT ANYTHING YOU DO ON THE BEACH DURING TURTLE SEASON IS GOING TO HAVE. THAT'S WHY IT REQUIRES THE STATE PERMITTING, DEP PERMITTING TO ENSURE THAT NOTHING THAT THEY'RE DOING WOULD VIOLATE ANY OF THOSE REGULATIONS. BUT NATALIE, MUCH MORE. OKAY, THANKS FOR CLARIFYING THAT. THANK. HEY, I MEAN, I WAS LISTENING TO THE CONVERSATION, BUT LIKE, WHAT'S A SPECIFIC QUESTION OR CONCERN THAT YOU HAVE REGARDING THE LIGHTING? IT'S NOT THE LIGHTING IS THE EVENT POLICY. IS THAT AFFECT THE DOES THAT PERIOD OF TIME ALSO AFFECT EVENTS? SO WE REVIEW THE EVENT. YOU KNOW, THE APPLICATIONS IN THE SENSE OF ANY KIND OF LIGHTING FOR TURTLE SEASON. AND WE MAKE SURE THAT IT ADHERES TO OUR CITY CODE, YOU KNOW, RULES, REGULATIONS, AND MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING KIND OF WORKS TOGETHER WITH THE SPECIAL EVENT. SO, I MEAN, WE GO THROUGH AND, AND WHERE THE LIGHTING THAT'S THEY'RE IN COMPLIANCE WITH AND ALL THAT. I'M JUST WONDERING IF EVENTS HAVE ANY RESTRICTIONS DURING THAT SEASON OTHER THAN LIGHTING, INCLUDING YOU CAN'T HAVE AN EVENT. IT'S JUST HOW WHERE YOU KNOW, THERE'S LIMITATIONS ON THAT EVENT. YEAH. IF IT'S CERTAIN TIMES OF THE YEAR, IT WOULD HAVE ADDITIONAL LIMITATIONS ASSOCIATED WITH TURTLES. AND THAT MAY NOT BE JUST LIGHTING. YOU KNOW, THERE MAY BE SOME STIPULATIONS ASSOCIATED WITH SAND MOVEMENT AND THAT TYPE OF THING. SO SAND MOVEMENT WOULD ALSO BE SCRUTINIZED DURING THAT TIME FRAME DURING TURTLE SEASON. SO WE LOOK AT EXACTLY WHAT'S GOING ON, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S PROPOSED, WHAT KIND OF THINGS. IF IT'S SAND CASTLES BEING BUILT, THAT'S A DIFFERENT CRITERIA, BUT IT WOULD STILL BE SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT FOR TURTLES. COMPLETE. THANK YOU. I HAVE COUNCIL, I MEAN VICE MAYOR AND THEN COUNCIL MEMBER. MAYOR, IF YOU WOULD ASCERTAIN THAT EVERYONE ON COUNCIL IS SATISFIED AT THIS POINT IN TIME THAT THEY ARE COMFORTABLE WITH THIS RESOLUTION, I'M PREPARED TO MAKE A MOTION. WE HAVEN'T EVEN GONE TO THE STAFF REPORT, PUBLIC COMMENT, OR WE STILL ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE HEARING.OKAY. BLANKENSHIP. THANK YOU. COULD YOU JUST SHARE WITH COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC WHAT WAS EXPLAINED TO ME ABOUT LOCATION? THE NEW LOCATION NUMBER SEVEN, WHICH IS ADJACENT TO A NEIGHBORHOOD AND HOMEOWNER, HOW YOU WERE ABLE TO SATISFY THAT RESIDENT OF ANY POTENTIAL NOISE CONCERNS. DIEGO. SO NUMBER SEVEN IS. IT'S ACTUALLY ELEVATED. THAT'S THE PRESIDENTIAL SUITE THAT IS UP ON THE SIXTH FLOOR OF THE BUILDING. YES. THE HOMEOWNER ON THE SOUTH SIDE, THE HOUSE MANAGER, CAME OVER. WE DID A TEST UP ON THE TERRACE WITH THE SPEAKERS THERE, AND HE WAS SATISFIED THAT THE VOLUME THAT WE WOULD USE OR ALLOWED TO USE UP IN THAT TERRACE AND FELT IT WAS IN A GOOD RELATIONSHIP THAT WE WOULD STAY IN TOUCH IF ANYTHING ELSE HAPPENED. CAN I JUST ASK, WAS THE THAT DECIBEL LIMITATION DIFFERENT FROM WHAT?
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THE CODE. NO. I MEAN, ARE WE COMMITTING TO SOMETHING OTHER THAN. NO, WE'RE NOT. OKAY. SAME.THANKS. I JUST THINK IT WAS IMPORTANT TO NOTE, SINCE THERE HAVE BEEN CONCERNS ABOUT THE LOCATIONS CLOSE TO HOMES. ABSOLUTELY. THE STEPS THAT YOU WENT THROUGH TO ENSURE THAT THERE WOULDN'T BE AN ISSUE. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. AND THEN QUESTIONS ON THE GOLF COURSE SITE OR I THINK WHAT'S CALLED THE LAND WORK SITE. SO MOST OF A LOT OF THAT AREA IS STILL UNDER CONSTRUCTION. WAGER ISN'T OPEN YET. THE GOLF COURSE IS OBVIOUSLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION ISN'T OPEN YET. THE I THINK FOR FOR RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS ARE NOT HAVEN'T BEEN STARTED YET.
WHAT'S THE TIME FRAME ON HOW LONG IT'S GOING. CURRENT ESTIMATES. RIGHT. IT CAN CHANGE, BUT THE CURRENT ESTIMATE ON HOW LONG IT'S GOING TO TAKE TO COMPLETE THAT CONSTRUCTION. J NEWMAN OF THE, THE ATHENS GROUP DEVELOPER AND ALSO PART OF THE OWNERSHIP. GOOD TO SPEAK TO EVERYONE TODAY. SO BECAUSE THOSE ARE DEVELOPMENT OBLIGATIONS, AND I DON'T WANT DIEGO TO COMMIT TO SOMETHING THAT WE CAN'T ACCEPT BECAUSE WE ARE BEHIND SCHEDULE. THE GOLF COURSE IS NOW EXPECTED TO BE COMPLETED, AND THERE'S WORK ONGOING BY EARLY OF NEXT YEAR, 2027. WE'RE HOPING TO BE JANUARY. WE HAD BEEN WORKING TOWARDS FALL. ONE OF THE ISSUES WAS JUST THE HAUL ROAD THAT HAS BEEN IN PLACE TO MINIMIZE THE IMPACT. SO AS A RESULT, THAT'S PUSHED OUT THE GOLF COURSE COMPLETION SCHEDULE, WE ARE EXPECTING TO COMMENCE CONSTRUCTION, MAINLY SITE WORK, AND WE'RE DEMOBILIZING WHERE OUR TRAILERS ARE RIGHT NOW. WE EXPECT TO COMMENCE SITE WORK FOR THE FOUR RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS SOMETIME IN THE SPRING. IT COULD SLIP A LITTLE INTO THE SUMMER AND THOSE WILL BE DONE MOST LIKELY IN MAYBE LATE 28, EARLY 29. SO THOSE ARE THE LAST COMPONENTS OF WHAT WE WHAT WE CALL THE CAMPUS, OTHERWISE KNOWN AS THE RESORT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. IT'S, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THIS NORMAL CONDITION NOW THAT WE ADD, WHICH IS NUMBER 12, ABOUT A SIX MONTH REVIEW. IT GIVES US AN OPPORTUNITY, RESIDENTS, AN OPPORTUNITY TO KIND OF SEE HOW IT'S GOING AND MAKE ADJUSTMENTS IF NEED BE. BUT IT THE SEAWARD SIDE, OKAY, YOU'RE UP AND RUNNING. YOU CAN CHECK IT AND SEE HOW THINGS ARE GOING. BUT THE GOLF COURSE SIDE, I HAVE A CONCERN ABOUT, AND I THINK SOME OF THE NEARBY HOMEOWNERS HAVE A CONCERN ABOUT THAT. WE DON'T REALLY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SEE WHAT IT'S REALLY LIKE IN ACTION, BECAUSE OF THE ONGOING CONSTRUCTION AND THE LACK OF ACTIVITY IN THE SUMMER MONTHS ANYWAY HERE. SO I WONDER IF IT WOULD MAKE SENSE TO HAVE A DIFFERENT REVIEW PROCESS. MAYBE IT'S AN ANNUAL REVIEW PROCESS. SO AROUND EVERY 12 MONTHS UNTIL CONSTRUCTION IS COMPLETED, AND THEN WE CAN HAVE ONE FINAL REVIEW AND AND BE DONE. I KNOW SOMEONE SUGGESTED EVERY SIX MONTHS I THOUGHT THAT MIGHT BE TOO FREQUENT, BUT EVERY 12 MONTHS GIVES US A CHANCE, THE RESIDENTS A CHANCE TO SEE HOW IT'S ACTING, HOW IT'S OPERATING IN ACTION. AND ONCE THE BUILDINGS ARE ALL COMPLETE, WE CAN KIND OF SEE HOW EVERYTHING WORKS WELL TOGETHER. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU GUYS COULD CONSIDER WEAR? AND WE'LL DEFER TO THE COUNCIL'S WILL IN THAT REGARD. WHAT THE CODE REQUIRES. IT'S A CONDITION IN THE DRAFT RESOLUTION, BUT THE CODE REQUIRES A SIX MONTH REVIEW AFTER THE APPROVALS ARE GRANTED UNDER THE CIRCUMSTANCES. BUT THE GOLF COURSE UNDER CONSTRUCTION, WE REALLY DON'T KNOW WHAT THE WHAT IT'S GOING TO BE LIKE. SO WHAT WE WERE JUST DISCUSSING WHILE YOU WERE TALKING WAS PERHAPS SIX MONTHS AFTER THE GOLF COURSE IS COMPLETE FOR THAT OUTDOOR PORTION OF OF THE APPROVAL, WE WOULD COME BACK FOR REREVIEW JUST AS A PROPOSAL TO THIS ISSUE. I CAN UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE WAIT FOR ALL THE BUILDINGS BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO AFFECT THE SOUND PROFILE. YOU KNOW, THE EXTENT THE WAY SOUND BOUNCES AROUND BETWEEN BUILDINGS, AND IT JUST SEEMS LIKE WE'LL BE ABLE TO SEE THE WHOLE OPERATION AT THAT POINT IN TIME. AND MY SORRY. YEAH, I'LL FILL THIS ONE. THANK YOU.
CLAY. YEAH, I THINK THAT'S PRUDENT BECAUSE UNTIL YOU HAVE THE CAMPUS COMPLETED, AS YOU'RE SAYING, VICE MAYOR, YOU DON'T KNOW HOW ALL THESE THESE POTENTIAL USES MIGHT INTERACT
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WITH THAT. SO WE'RE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT CONDITION. OKAY. JUST TO BE CLEAR, IS THAT ONLY LOCATION NUMBER FOUR OR IS THAT ALL OF THE OUTDOOR LOCATIONS ON THE LAND? IT'S ALL FOUR LOCATIONS, ALL FOUR LOCATIONS ON LAND. MAYOR, IF MAYOR, IF I MAY, MR. DICKMAN, BECAUSE WE ONLY READ INTO THE RECORD ONE RESOLUTION AND NOT TWO, I THINK WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT THE THE OUTDOOR PART OF THIS FIRST AND THEN THE INDOOR PART. SO I DON'T I DON'T WANT TO MIX THE RECORD. I KNOW WE'RE ONLY TALKING ABOUT THE OUTDOOR LOCATIONS ON THE GOLF COURSE SITE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. YEAH, YEAH. AND THAT'S ANNUALLY FOLLOWING THE DATE OF APPROVAL.YEAH. WELL, WAIT A MINUTE. BUT THE RECOMMENDATION OF MR. NEWMAN IS VERY WISE AND WAITING UNTIL THAT'S COMPLETE. SO, I MEAN, IT'S IN OUR CODE FOR SIX MONTHS. IT SHOULD STAY SIX MONTHS, BUT IT SHOULD BE IN ADDITION TO THAT ANNUALLY FROM NOW UNTIL THE COMPLETION OF THE LAST BUILDING. SO THAT WOULD BE IN 2029 PERHAPS, OR 2028, WHENEVER THE LAST BUILDING IS DONE. ONE FINAL REVIEW, BECAUSE THE CONCERN IS GOLF COURSE IS FINISHED. IF WE DID A FINAL APPROVAL THEN AND THEN THE BUILDINGS ARE FINISHED, THEY CAN AFFECT THE LAYOUT. SO MR. NEWMAN, TO ME, APPROVING SOMETHING THAT ISN'T COMPLETE, IT IS A VERY DIFFICULT SITUATION. SO COMING BACK FOR THOSE PARTICULAR LOCATIONS WOULD MAKE MORE SENSE. WELL, BUT WE WILL BE USING THOSE LOCATIONS PRIOR TO COMPLETION. SO THAT'S WHY WE ARE SEEKING THE APPROVAL NOW. BUT WE HAVE NO PROBLEMS DOING A REVIEW AT A LATER DATE. BUT THOSE, THOSE LOCATIONS ARE ATTRACTIVE. OKAY. AND SO WE WOULD USE THEM BEFORE THE EVEN THE GOLF COURSE IS COMPLETED OR THE, THE PHASE TWO BUILDINGS ARE COMPLETED. SO THAT'S WHY THE PERMIT IS BEING REQUESTED TODAY. SO THIS WOULD EFFECTIVELY MAKE IT SOME ON THE GOLF COURSE SIDE, SOMEWHAT OF A TEMPORARY ANNUAL PERMIT. AND THEN IT WOULD BE FINALIZED ONCE CONSTRUCTION IS FINISHED. AND WHEN YOU WHEN JUST BECAUSE I HAVE TO BE VERY SPECIFIC IN THE RESOLUTION, COMPLETION OF ALL BUILDINGS. THAT'S ALL. ALL THE GOLF COURSE BUILDINGS, ALL OF THE RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS, ALL OF THE BUILDINGS. OR ARE WE SPECIFIC TO CERTAIN. TO ME, IT'S THERE'S A LOT OF PHASES LEFT. THE THE BUILDINGS. RIGHT. I GUESS THE CLUBHOUSE IS FINISHED MARKET BUILDINGS FINISHED, BUILDING IS FINISHED. IT'S THE FOR THEIR FOR PLANNED AND APPROVED RESIDENTIAL TOWERS.
YEAH. YEAH. I WOULDN'T CALL THEM TOWERS, BUT YES, THE FOUR BUILDINGS. PHASE TWO RESIDENTIAL. THIS IS NOT MIAMI. YEAH. BUT THE THE RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS. YEAH. WHAT WE CALL PHASE TWO RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS. THERE ARE A COUPLE OF GOLF IMPROVEMENTS, ONE OF WHICH IS A COMFORT STATION, SOMETHING THAT IS CALLED THE SHED. THOSE ARE SINGLE STOREY SMALL STRUCTURES.
JUST FOR THE RECORD, TO AVOID ANY CONFUSION, THOSE BUILDINGS ARE IN THE PROCESS OF BEING CONSTRUCTED NOW, BUT IT'S REALLY THOSE FOUR MAJOR BUILDINGS. YEAH. AND AS I UNDERSTAND, THERE'S NO PROPOSED LIVE ENTERTAINMENT ON THE GOLF COURSE. THE GREENS, THE CORRECT CONSERVATION EASEMENT. NOT AT THIS TIME, NO, NOTHING. NOTHING WE DO. JUST FOR THE RECORD, AGAIN, WE HAVE TWO SPACES THAT WE WILL COME BACK TO YOU TO HAVE YOU CONSIDER THOSE TWO SPACES ON THE IN THE GOLF COURSE AREA. BUT THAT'S NOT THE SUBJECT OF TODAY'S APPLICATION.
TWO SPACES, TWO SPACES FOR LIVE ENTERTAINMENT WHERE THE SHED IS, WHICH IS WHERE NEXT TO THE DRIVING, WE CALL IT THE SHED. IT'S NEXT TO THE DRIVING RANGE. THERE WILL BE A SNACK BAR THERE.
IT'S ANTICIPATED THAT WE MIGHT ALSO HAVE A SMALL EVENT THERE WITH ACCOMPANIED BY SOME MUSIC, SOME BACKGROUND MUSIC. SO WE WOULD COME BACK TO YOU FOR THAT LIVE ENTERTAINMENT PERMIT. IT WAS VICE MAYOR BLANKENSHIP, BEFORE YOU CAME BACK TO THE COUNCIL, WE THAT WAS AT THE EARLIER HEARING. AND TO SIMPLIFY THINGS, WE ELIMINATED THOSE TWO LOCATIONS FROM THIS APPLICATION FOR THIS HEARING. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND LAST QUESTION TO CONFIRM WHAT I THINK I HEARD. THIS REQUEST. THIS APPROVAL, IF GIVEN TODAY, DOESN'T PERMIT ANY SEPARATELY TICKETED EVENTS LIKE BAND CONCERTS OR ANYTHING, THOSE WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH A SPECIAL, A SEPARATE SPECIAL PERMIT APPLICATION PROCESS. YOU ARE CORRECT. AND FOR THAT, THIS RECORD, WE ARE NOT CONTEMPLATING THAT AT ALL. BUT NEVER SAY NEVER. BUT THIS IS A
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FOUR SEASONS AND UNLIKE THE THE PREVIOUS OPERATION, WHICH YOU KNOW, THE WATKINS FAMILY DID A TERRIFIC JOB AND IT WAS SUCH AN IMPORTANT PART OF THE FABRIC OF THE COMMUNITY. YES, THEY DID DO TICKETED EVENTS AND LARGE SCALE CONCERTS, BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT FOUR SEASONS IS ALL ABOUT. I ONE LITTLE REMINDER, WE ALSO HAVE RESIDENTS ON BOTH SIDES OF THE PROPERTY, AS WE TALKED ABOUT PHASE TWO, AND OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE THE BEACHSIDE RESIDENTS. THEY WILL BE LIVING AT THE AT THE RESORT. THEREFORE, THEY ARE KIND OF THE PROVERBIAL CANARY IN THE COAL MINE. THEY'RE GOING TO BE POTENTIALLY MOST IMPACTED, MORE SO THAN ANY NEIGHBORS WOULD BE, BECAUSE THEY'RE RIGHT NEXT TO ANY ACTIVITY THAT MIGHT, MIGHT TAKE PLACE. AND THEY ARE SOME OF OUR MOST IMPORTANT GUESTS. ALTHOUGH EVERYBODY IS IMPORTANT TO THE TO THE FOUR SEASONS IN US. RIGHT. THANK YOU.I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY FOR YOU, VICE MAYOR. AND THEN I HAVE KRAMER, THE. REFERENCE IS FOR ITEM FOUR AND THREE. I'M TALKING THE GOLF SIDE G O L F THAT LIFE SAFETY PLAN IS LSO2.
OH, AND YOU'RE TALKING HOW MANY APPROVALS ON THAT ONE? FOUR. THREE. THE WAY THE LIFE SAFETY PLAN IS THE DOCUMENT IS HOTEL REVISED OUTDOOR LIFE SAFETY PLAN IN YOUR THAT'S HOW IT'S LABELED IN THE PACKET. AND THEN THE WAY THEY'VE DONE THIS IS THERE'S AN OVER AN OVERALL PLAN THAT SHOWS ALL THE LOCATIONS. AND THEN THEY'VE GIVEN INDIVIDUALLY A ZOOMED IN VERSION OF EACH OF THE LOCATIONS. RIGHT. I HAVE THE OVERALL AS BEING LSO15. YEP.
AND THEN IF YOU GO TO THE GULF SIDE IT WOULD BE LSO2. OH. SORRY, I HAVE TO. SORRY BECAUSE I JUST THE LOCATION OF NUMBER FOUR AND NUMBER THREE ARE VERY CLOSE TO GOLF DRIVE. IF I UNDERSTAND THIS LIFE SAFETY PLAN. YES YOU ARE CORRECT. THAT IS THE REFERENCE LSO2. OH YEAH.
SO THERE'S FOUR IS THE GOLF CLUB, THE CLUBHOUSE LAWN. THREE IS I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU CALL THAT. OH, THE CAMELLIA TERRACE. CORRECT. IT'S PRONOUNCED THAT AGAIN. CAMELLIA CAMELLIA MISPRONOUNCING CAMELLIA C A M. PERFECT. OKAY, SO THAT'S NUMBER THREE. AND THE OTHER PIECE OF ON THE. TERRACE WAGER. WAGER. YEAH. THE WAGER. WHICH ONE. AND THEN THE. AND THEN THAT'S NUMBER TWO. AND THEN THE OTHER IS SOMETHING LAWN NUMBER ONE, JUST A REGULAR LAWN ON THE LANDWARD SIDE. NUMBER TWO IS THE WAGER OUTDOOR WAGER. WAGER THREE IS CAMELLIA TERRACE, AND FOUR IS WHAT WE REFER TO AS THE CLUBHOUSE LAWN. GREAT. I'LL JUST SAY FOR THE RECORD, I HAVE A CONCERN ABOUT DOING THREE AND FOUR RIGHT NOW BEING SO CLOSE TO GOLF DRIVE. I UNDERSTAND THE VICE MAYOR'S CAN, YOU KNOW. LOOKING TO WHERE IT'S COMPLETE, I FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE WITH JUST THREE AND NOT FOUR. BUT I UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S A VERY. DESIRABLE PLACE, BUT IT'S ALSO RIGHT NEXT TO THE TO MORE NEIGHBORS. AND ANYWAY, WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO GO TO KRAMER.
THANK YOU MAYOR, I. SUSIE AND I WENT AND WALKED TO THE SUNSET BAR LAST WEEK. IT'S FANTASTIC.
IT'S COOL. I GOTTA SAY, SOME OF THE HAND-WRINGING FROM WHOMEVER JUST IS LAUGHABLE TO ME. WE DID GOLF TOURNAMENT. I HAD, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY GOLF TOURNAMENTS THERE, AND IT'S 730 IN THE MORNING. WE WENT AND SET UP OUR SPEAKERS. THERE WERE NO PERMITS. WE CRANKED THOSE THINGS. IF IT WENT TO 11, THAT'S WHAT WE PUT IT ON LIKE LIKE SPINAL TAP. BUT EVERYONE THOUGHT NEVER ONE COMPLAINT. AND THE FACT IS, THE RESIDENTS ARE IS IT THE FOUR SEASONS RESIDENTS? IS THIS WHAT THOSE ARE CALLED OR IS THERE A DIFFERENT BRAND ON THOSE? CORRECT. YEAH. THE FORCE THERE, THE RESIDENTS, PEOPLE ON THE NORTH SIDE THAT ARE FUSSING ABOUT POTENTIALLY ANOTHER PREEMPTIVELY FUSSING. YOU GOT TO GO THROUGH ALL THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE FIRST TO GET TO YOU. THAT'S ABSURD TO ME, QUITE HONESTLY. WE HAVE BUMPERS IN PLACE ALREADY SET BY PREVIOUS
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COUNCILS AND CITY CODE THAT WILL TAKE CARE OF ANYTHING THAT IS OUT OF BOUNDS. THAT'S A. AND I GUARANTEE WE'LL GET PHONE CALLS BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW IF YOU REMEMBER WHEN THIS WHEN WE WERE FIRST TALKING ABOUT THIS AND I WAS ASKED TO COME TO CITY COUNCIL MEETING BACK WHEN I WAS COACHING AND I. AND I TURNED TO THE ATHENS GROUP AND I SAID, WE CALL THIS A HOSTILE ENVIRONMENT.WELL, THAT HASN'T CHANGED BECAUSE THIS IS SILLY. YOU'VE CROSSED EVERY T DOTTED EVERY I ALL THE BUMPERS ARE IN PLACE. HERE'S WHAT ELSE FOR PEOPLE THAT LIVE HERE TO REMEMBER THE MUSIC ON THE GREEN LIKE IT USED TO. THUMP. THAT WAS AWESOME. IT WAS A BLAST. YOU. WHEREVER YOU COULD FIND PARKING, YOU WOULD HEAR IT GETTING OUT OF YOUR VEHICLE. I MEAN, IT WAS COOL.
THAT'S NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN AGAIN. THAT'S NOT WHAT THIS PLACE DOES. AND I'M SITTING THERE AT THE SUNSET BAR WITH SUSIE AND I'M LIKE, WELL, THIS IS A WHOLE DIFFERENT DEAL HERE.
IT'S GREAT. IT'S GREAT. IT'S JUST ENTIRELY DIFFERENT. LIKE I SAID, THE BUMPERS ARE IN PLACE.
YOU'VE CROSSED EVERY T DOTTED EVERY I I'M WITH COUNCILWOMAN PITTMAN THAT WE NEED TO PROVE THIS AS IT IS. WE NEED TO MOVE WITH WITH THE CONDITIONS OF REMOVING THE PERMANENT SPEAKERS, WHICH MAKES PERFECT SENSE AND MOVE FORWARD. WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT SPECIAL EVENTS HERE.
SPECIAL EVENTS OR SPECIAL EVENTS SHOULD GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS IF AND WHEN IT HAPPENS.
AND SO FAR IT HASN'T HAPPENED. AND MAY I ASK, I MEAN, HOW MANY WE'VE BEEN WORKING FOR, HOW MANY MONTHS WITH THE CITY MANAGER WITH LIVE MUSIC THERE? NOT ONE COMPLAINT, NO ZERO ISSUES. ANYONE THAT WALKS IN THE PROPERTY SAYS THIS PLACE IS IMMACULATE AND AMAZING. AND DO WE THINK IT'S GOING TO CHANGE SOMEHOW WHEN AND IF IT DOES? LET'S JUST SUPPOSE YOU ALL LOSE YOUR MINDS AND MAKE IT MY KIND OF PLACE, RIGHT? WE'RE GOING TO GO STRAIGHT. TRAILER PARK TRASH.
THAT'S ME. AND THEN WHAT? THEN CITY COUNCIL GET INVOLVED BECAUSE WE'VE GOT PLENTY COMPLAINTS AND WE'LL FIX IT. THAT'LL HAPPEN. ALL THAT'S ALL THAT, ALL THOSE BUMPERS, ALL THOSE SAFEGUARDS ARE IN PLACE ALREADY. AND AS SOON AS WE'RE READY, IF COUNCILWOMAN IS READY TO MAKE A MOTION, WHY DON'T YOU THINK WE NEED TO DO THAT? MOVE THIS FORWARD. COUNCIL MEMBER KRAMER, I RESPECT YOU, BUT I DO NOT RESPECT THE FACT THAT YOU SAY I'M BEING HOSTILE, AND I THE ONLY PERSON WHO'S. WELL, YOU SAID A HOSTILE ENVIRONMENT. I JUST I'M NOT GOING TO GET DOWN AND HAVE AN ARGUMENT WITH YOU. BUT THIS IS NOT HOSTILE, IN MY OPINION. THIS IS JUST CLARIFYING THE RECORD THAT'S GOING TO BE IMPORTANT FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, AND UNDERSTANDING WHERE THESE LOCATIONS ARE AND CLARIFYING AREAS THAT ARE NOT COMPLETE ON WHETHER THEY SHOULD BE APPROVED AS OF RIGHT NOW. AND I'M SORRY. YES, MA'AM. I RESPECT YOU TOO. SO JUST TO CLARIFY THE RECORD, THE HOSTILE ENVIRONMENT THAT I'M TALKING ABOUT THAT EXISTS, ARE PEOPLE IN THIS COMMUNITY THAT FROM THE OUTSET HAVE HATED THIS PROJECT AND HAVEN'T CHANGED THEIR MINDS? THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT. AND THAT EXISTS WHETHER YOU KNOW THEM OR NOT. I'VE TALKED TO THEM. OH, WELL. SO THERE, I'LL GIVE YOU THAT. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH YOU. HERE'S WHAT ELSE THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THAT YOU WANT POLICE AND FIRE TO BE AWARE OF. THEY ALREADY SIGNED OFF ON THIS. THANKS. GOT A BOW ON IT. IT'S READY TO GO.
THEY'VE ALREADY SIGNED OFF ON. AND THEY KNOW THEIR BUSINESS WAY BETTER THAN WE DO. THANKS.
THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER BARTON, JUST REAL QUICK, TO THE PETITIONER, THERE'S BEEN A WHOLE BUNCH OF DISCUSSION ABOUT SPECIAL EVENTS TODAY. YOU UNDERSTAND THAT THIS LIVE ENTERTAINMENT PETITION TODAY THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING HERE TODAY WILL HAVE NO IMPACT ON POTENTIAL SPECIAL EVENTS THAT YOU MIGHT WANT TO HAVE ON THE PROPERTY. IS THAT UNDERSTAND? THAT'S UNDERSTOOD. CORRECT? CORRECT. OKAY, GOOD. IN REFERENCE TO THE THAT THAT'S BRIEFLY BEEN DISCUSSED. AND I UNDERSTAND THAT ULTIMATELY, WHEN WE DO MAKE A MOTION, WE WILL DISCUSS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO PUT IN HERE AS AS CONDITIONS. BUT I JUST WANT TO TOUCH ON VICE MAYOR'S CONCERN ABOUT THE. THE SIX MONTH LOOK BACK. THERE WE GO. THE SIX MONTH REVIEW.
WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST, I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO DO AN ANNUAL TEMPORARY ANNUAL REVIEW. I THINK WHAT WE SHOULD DO AND AS AS THE PETITIONER HAS ALREADY ACCEPTED THAT THIS WOULD BE ACCEPTABLE WOULD TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE WILL BE A FINAL SIX MONTH REVIEW ONCE PHASE TWO, THOSE THOSE PARTICULAR BUILDINGS THAT ARE IN PHASE TWO, THOSE RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS ARE COMPLETE. AND I THINK THAT MAKES PERFECT SENSE. YOU KNOW, ONCE THOSE BUILDINGS ARE UP, SOUND CAN BOUNCE OFF OF THEM AND GO DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS.
AND, AND I JUST THINK THAT I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO DO THIS, MAKE IT MORE COMPLICATED AND MORE ARDUOUS THAN IT NEEDS TO BE. BUT WE DON'T NEED TO DISCUSS THIS EVERY 12 MONTHS.
LET'S GET THOSE THINGS DONE. AND THEN WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE WILL BE A FINAL SIX MONTH REVIEW AT ONCE, THOSE ARE COMPLETE, I THINK WOULD BE SUFFICIENT IN THIS SCENARIO.
AND THEN WHAT I WOULD SAY AS FAR AS LOCATIONS ON THE ON THE GOLF COURSE SIDE AND THE
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MAYOR'S CONCERN ABOUT THE THE TWO LOCATIONS BEING OVER THERE TO THE TO THE SOUTH. JUST KEEP IN MIND ALSO THAT THOSE SPEAKERS ARE GOING TO BE DIRECTED AWAY FROM THOSE RESIDENTIAL HOMES. SO IT'S NOT GOING TO BE BLASTING TOWARDS THEM. IT'S GOING TO BE BLASTING IS THE WRONG WORD. THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE PLAYING MUSIC TOWARDS THEM. THEY'RE GOING TO BE PLAYING MUSIC TOWARDS THE THE LAWN IN THIS CASE, WHICH IS AGAIN, AWAY FROM THOSE RESIDENCES. SO I DON'T THINK THERE'S GOING TO BE AN ISSUE WITH EITHER ONE OF THOSE.THAT'S ALL I HAVE. MADAM MAYOR, I RECOGNIZE THIS IS A QUASI JUDICIAL MEETING, BUT BUT I DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE HEAR FROM STAFF. WHAT I WOULD RESPECTFULLY REQUEST IS IF WE TAKE A FIVE MINUTE BREAK TO HANDLE AN ADMINISTRATIVE MATTER AND THEN NOT RELATED TO THIS IN ANY WAY, AND THEN AND I APOLOGIZE FOR THE INCONVENIENCE, BUT AND THEN WE RECONVENE AND AND HAVE STAFF MAKE THEIR PRESENTATION, THEN COMPLETE THIS ITEM. THANK YOU. GOOD RECOMMENDATION. IT IS 1032 AND WE'LL TAKE A OKAY, WE'RE BACK FROM OUR BREAK AND CONTINUING ON WITH 11 A AND WE'LL GO TO THE STAFF REPORT. ALL RIGHT. GOOD MORNING. MAYOR ERIC MARTIN, PLANNING DIRECTOR SORRY, I WAS GOING TO SAY CITY COUNCIL. WE HAVE BEFORE YOU TODAY A LIVE ENTERTAINMENT REQUEST. THIS IS FOR THE NAPLES BEACH HOTEL. IT'S PETITION 20 6-L3. THIS IS ESTABLISHING AMPLIFIED OUTDOOR LIVE ENTERTAINMENT ON THE PROPERTY. THIS IS. AS YOU KNOW, THE NAPLES BEACH HOTEL OPERATED THE PRIOR VERSION OF NAPLES BEACH HOTEL OPERATED FOR OVER 70 YEARS ON. THIS PROPERTY THEN HAS NOW BEEN REDEVELOPED AS THE CURRENT NAPLES BEACH HOTEL. IN THE FOUR SEASONS YOU HAVE THE TWO PORTIONS OF THE PROPERTY THAT ARE FOR REVIEW TODAY ARE THE HOTEL PORTION, WHICH IS THE R3T 18 SECTION WEST OF WILSHIRE BOULEVARD, AND THEN WHAT WE CALL THE MARKET SQUARE CLUBHOUSE PORTION OF THE PROPERTY ON THE EAST SIDE OF GULF SHORE. AND THAT IS ALSO OUR THREE T 18. THE R3T 18 DISTRICT DOES PROVIDE THROUGH THE CONDITIONAL USE PROCESS FOR USES SUCH AS TRANSIENT LODGING FACILITIES AND RESTAURANTS AND COCKTAIL LOUNGES. THOSE WOULD BE APPROVED THROUGH CONDITIONAL USE. THEY WERE APPROVED FOR THIS PROPERTY AND SO THEY. THE BEACH HOTEL IS ASKING TODAY FOR APPROVAL OF LIVE ENTERTAINMENT ACCESSORY TO THAT HOTEL AND THE THE RESTAURANT, THE ANCILLARY RESTAURANT, THE. THIS WAS BEFORE YOU ORIGINALLY IN JANUARY WAS CONTINUED AT AT THAT MEETING AND WAS WELL, I GUESS BACK UP. THERE IS A LONG HISTORY OF LIVE ENTERTAINMENT ON THIS SITE. I DID INCLUDE IN YOUR STAFF REPORT THE LIVE ENTERTAINMENT HISTORY FOR THE BEACH HOTEL, A NUMBER OF RESOLUTIONS GOING BACK TO 2003, 2004, FIVE, SIX, SEVEN AND EIGHT. OBVIOUSLY THOSE ARE NO LONGER APPLICABLE. THE CODE REQUIRES THAT WHEN YOU HAVE A CHANGE OF BUSINESS, CHANGE OF OWNER, OR CHANGE TO A LIFE SAFETY PLAN, THAT THAT DOES REQUIRE THE APPROVAL OF A NEW LIFE SAFETY PERMIT. SO THAT OR LIVE ENTERTAINMENT PERMIT, I'M SORRY, A NEW LIVE ENTERTAINMENT PERMIT. AND THAT'S WHAT'S BEFORE YOU TODAY. LIKE I SAID, THIS WAS ORIGINALLY HEARD AT THE JANUARY 21ST MEETING. THAT REQUEST WAS FOR INDOOR AND OUTDOOR LIVE ENTERTAINMENT. AT THAT TIME, CITY COUNCIL VOTED TO CONTINUE THE ITEM TO THE FEBRUARY MEETING AND DETERMINED THAT A SEPARATE APPLICANT THAT THE TWO SHOULD BE SEPARATED OUT SO THAT WE SHOULD MOVE FORWARD WITH A SEPARATE PERMIT FOR OUTDOOR AND INDOOR. THE BEACH HOTEL. THEY DID SUBMIT AN INDOOR. BUT DUE TO THE TIMING OF THAT, IT WAS FURTHER CONTINUED TO THIS MEETING. SO NOW YOU HAVE TWO SEPARATE REQUESTS, ONE FOR OUTDOOR, ONE FOR INDOOR. THIS IS THE REQUEST FOR THE OUTDOOR LIVE ENTERTAINMENT. A FURTHER REQUEST FROM COUNCIL WHEN THIS WAS CONTINUED IN JANUARY WAS THAT THE PETITIONER WORKED WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THERE WERE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THE PROPOSAL THAT WAS BEFORE YOU, BEFORE IT WAS MUCH MORE BROAD AND I WOULD SAY MAYBE A LITTLE OPEN ENDED. THEY HAVE SINCE THEN, BETWEEN THAT MEETING AND TODAY, THEY HAD MET WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD. I DID PROVIDE IN THE AGENDA PACKET WHAT THEY HAD GIVEN TO ME, WHICH WAS EVIDENCE OF THOSE MEETINGS THAT THEY HAD. THEY HAD TWO SEPARATE MEETINGS IN FEBRUARY, ON FEBRUARY 3RD AND FEBRUARY 5TH, WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AS A RESULT OF THE FEEDBACK THAT THEY GOT FROM THOSE MEETINGS AND THEN ALSO FROM THE FIRST CITY COUNCIL HEARING, THEY DID MAKE A NUMBER OF REVISIONS TO THEIR REQUESTS. THEY REDUCED THE NUMBER OF EVENTS, THE NUMBER OF OUTDOOR EVENTS ARE THE NUMBER OF OUTDOOR LOCATIONS THEY REDUCED TO 11. THEY DID REDUCE THE NUMBER OF CONCURRENT EVENTS. THEY ARE NOW IMPOSING A LIMITATION ON THEMSELVES OF.
THERE WILL BE NO MORE THAN TWO CONCURRENT EVENTS ON THE LANDWARD SIDE AND TWO
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CONCURRENT EVENTS ON THE SEAWARD SIDE. WE'LL SAY THEY DID REMOVE THE PROPOSED LOCATIONS WITHIN THE RESIDENTIAL PORTION OF THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT AND THE GOLF COURSE, AND THEN THEY COMMITTED TO USING STANDARDIZED AV EQUIPMENT, A SOUND LIMITER AND DECIBEL METERS AT THE PROPERTY LINES TO ENSURE COMPLIANCE WITH THE NOISE STANDARDS. SO THE REQUESTED HOURS OF THE LIVE ENTERTAINMENT THAT'S BEFORE YOU TODAY, IT'S SEVEN DAYS PER WEEK. IT'S FROM 9 A.M. TO 11 P.M. IN MULTIPLE LOCATIONS. HOWEVER, LIMITING THAT WHILE THERE ARE MULTIPLE LOCATIONS ALLOWED, THEY WILL ONLY USE TWO AT A TIME. IN EACH OF THOSE SECTIONS, WE DID NOTICE THIS. WE DID SEND A NOTICE TO ALL PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 1000FT OF THIS PROPERTY. WE DID RECEIVE A NUMBER OF EMAILS AND LETTERS THAT IS ALL INCLUDED IN YOUR IN YOUR AGENDA PACKET. I WILL SAY WHAT'S INCLUDED IN YOUR AGENDA PACKET IS WHAT WE HAD AT THE DATE THAT THIS WAS PUBLISHED. SO I AM AWARE THAT POTENTIALLY COUNCIL HAS RECEIVED ADDITIONAL CORRESPONDENCE THAT WILL ALSO BE INCLUDED IN THE RECORD. BUT WHAT'S IN YOUR PACKET WAS AS OF THE DATE OF PUBLICATION, WE DID SEND THIS REQUEST OUT TO THE FIRE RESCUE DEPARTMENT, CODE ENFORCEMENT, POLICE DEPARTMENT, AND THE NATURAL RESOURCE DEPARTMENT. WE INCLUDED ANY COMMENTS THAT WE GOT FROM THOSE DEPARTMENTS. POLICE DID NOT HAVE ANY COMMENTS. CODE ENFORCEMENT DID NOT HAVE APPLICABLE VIOLATIONS. FIRE RESCUE REVIEWED THIS. THE LIFE SAFETY PLANS THAT ARE REFERENCED IN YOUR RESOLUTION THAT ARE INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET HAVE BEEN REVIEWED AND APPROVED BY THE DEPUTY FIRE CHIEF, ACTING AS THE FIRE MARSHAL FOR CONSISTENCY WITH LIFE SAFETY REGULATIONS AND NATURAL RESOURCES, HAD A NUMBER OF COMMENTS RELATED TO TURTLE, TURTLE LIGHTING AND BEACH ACTIVITIES. WE DID INCLUDE THOSE AS CONDITIONS IN THE RESOLUTION. THAT'S BEFORE YOU.AGAIN, PLEASE REFERENCE THE RESOLUTION I PASSED OUT THIS MORNING. THERE WAS A CORRECTION TO SECTION TWO, WHICH WAS THE DATE OF THE LIFE SAFETY PLANS THAT ARE IN YOUR PACKET, BUT YOU WOULD SEE THOSE CONDITIONS FROM THE NATURAL RESOURCES DEPARTMENT. STAFF REVIEWED THIS AGAINST THE APPLICABLE CRITERIA, FINDING THAT IT IS CONSISTENT, SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS THAT ARE IN THAT RESOLUTION. I THINK WE WILL BE MAKING SOME CHANGES TO THOSE CONDITIONS. NUMBER ONE, REQUESTED REVISION IS THAT IN CONDITION NUMBER TEN, WHICH IS WHICH REFERENCES THAT ALL AMPLIFIED MUSIC SHALL COME FROM PERMANENT SPEAKERS INSTALLED ON THE PROPERTY. THE REQUEST WAS TO REMOVE THE WORD PERMANENT. THIS IS SOMEWHAT DUPLICATIVE OF A CONDITION THAT THEY OFFERED UP, WHICH WAS THAT THE PETITIONER WILL USE UTILIZE STANDARD AV EQUIPMENT, A SOUND LIMITER, AND DECIBEL METERS ACHIEVING THE SAME PURPOSE. BUT NUMBER TEN IS A STANDARD CONDITION THAT WE INCLUDE IN ALL LIFE SAFETY OR ALL LIVE ENTERTAINMENT PERMITS. AND THEN THERE WAS DISCUSSION ABOUT A ADDITIONAL CONDITION THAT WAS RELATIVE TO THE LANDWARD, THE FOUR LOCATIONS LANDWARD OF GULF SHORE BOULEVARD. I HAVE TWO VERSIONS OF THAT CONDITIONS.
WHOEVER'S THE LUCKY MOTION MAKER CAN LET ME KNOW WHICH VERSION YOU WOULD LIKE TO INCLUDE. I HAVE THE FIRST VERSION WOULD BE THAT CITY COUNCIL WILL REVIEW THE LANDWARD SIDE. ALL FOUR LANDWARD SIDE LOCATIONS ANNUALLY UNTIL COMPLETION OF THE GOLF COURSE AND ALL BUILDINGS, WHICH WOULD BE THE PHASE TWO RESIDENTIAL OR THAT CITY COUNCIL WILL REVIEW THE LANDWARD LOCATIONS WITHIN SIX MONTHS FOLLOWING COMPLETION OF THE GOLF COURSE AND ALL BUILDINGS. THOSE ARE THE CORRECTIONS I RECEIVED TODAY.
SO WITH THAT, I'M AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS. I JUST WANT TO ASK THE VICE MAYOR TO THAT MOTION THAT YOU MENTIONED. THANK YOU FOR YOUR STAFF REPORT. BEING THAT THEY'RE NOT COMPLETE, IT'S CONSIDERING THAT ONCE THEY'RE COMPLETE EVENTS WOULD HAPPEN OR EVENTS WILL HAPPEN NOW. EVENTS WOULD HAPPEN IN THE INTERIM. AND THE IDEA OF HAVING THE ANNUAL REVIEW, SINCE IT'S A FOUR YEAR TIME FRAME, GIVES US CHECKPOINTS TO MAKE ADJUSTMENTS IF IT'S NOT WORKING. SO IT WOULD BE SIX MONTHS. BEING THAT THE SIX MONTHS REQUIRED BY CODE, I GUESS. SO THAT WILL PROBABLY BE, IN MY OPINION, PRETTY PERFUNCTORY BECAUSE IT'S SEPTEMBER, RIGHT? AND THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE MUCH HAPPENING BETWEEN NOW AND SEPTEMBER. SO IT COULD BE, I DON'T KNOW, I'M JUST SPECULATING. NOT MUCH HAPPENING IN THE SUMMER, ESPECIALLY WITH THE GOLF COURSE UNDER CONSTRUCTION. SO MY THINKING BASED ON AND, AND I HAVE TO GIVE CREDIT TO SOME OF THE RESIDENTS ON SOUTH GOLF DRIVE WHO PROPOSED THIS WAS TO HAVE THIS CHECKPOINT EVERY 12 MONTHS OR SO TO SEE HOW IT'S GOING. AND THEN ONCE EVERYTHING'S FINISHED, GIVE A FINAL APPROVAL GOING FORWARD. THAT WAS THAT'S THE THINKING. I'M SURE THERE'S PROBABLY A BETTER WAY OF SAYING IT. YEAH, THE FINAL APPROVAL WAS CONCERNING. SO YOU'RE SAYING GIVE APPROVAL BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO GIVE THE APPROVAL, RIGHT? YEAH. BUT THIS NUMBER 12 SAYS
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YOU CAN TAKE IT BACK, YOU KNOW, AFTER SIX MONTHS, IF YOU REVIEW IT AND SOMETHING'S NOT WORKING RIGHT, YOU CAN TAKE IT BACK OR YOU CAN MAKE CHANGES. BUT IF WE'RE WE'RE SAYING, I THINK WE'RE SAYING WE MAY BE, WE MAY BE COMFORTABLE GIVING THAT TYPE OF PERMANENT APPROVAL, SUBJECT TO THE SIX MONTH REVIEW ON THE GULF SIDE, GULF SIDE, THE SEAWARD SIDE, BUT NOT YET ON THE LANDWARD SIDE, BECAUSE THERE'S STILL SO MUCH CONSTRUCTION TO HAPPEN, BUT THEY ARE HAVING EVENTS, SO THERE STILL WOULD BE A NEED FOR MONITORING THE SIX MONTH. YES, YES. OKAY. RIGHT, RIGHT. THAT'S WHY THE SIX MONTH REVIEW REQUIRED BY CODE WOULD STILL BE THERE. AND THEN IN ADDITION, WE'D HAVE THIS 12 MONTH REVIEW BECAUSE THE GOLF COURSE IS ANTICIPATED TO BE FINISHED WITHIN 12 MONTHS. THAT WAS A CLARIFICATION. AND THEN THE OTHER BUILDINGS WILL TAKE LONGER. THANK YOU. ALSO, MADAM CLERK, FOR DISCLOSURE PURPOSES.DURING THE BREAK, I DID SPEAK TO THE PETITIONER'S AGENT AND THE PETITIONER'S AND BASICALLY JUST CLARIFYING THAT THIS PROCESS WAS ONLY NECESSARY FOR DETAILS THAT MATTER, AND THAT I THINK THEY'RE DOING A GREAT JOB AT WHAT THEY'VE BEEN DOING WITH THE COMMUNITY, AND THE COMMUNITY HAS SUPPORTED THEM. OKAY. WITH THAT, CAN I ASK ONE QUESTION? WOULD IT BE PRUDENT TO ADD AS A CONDITION OR SOMEWHERE IN THIS RESOLUTION, JUST A KIND OF A BELT AND SUSPENDERS STATEMENT THAT NOTHING THAT THIS LIVE ENTERTAINMENT APPROVAL DOES NOT EXEMPT THEM FROM, ESPECIALLY THE SPECIAL EVENT PERMITTING REQUIREMENTS, SHOULD THEY? I MEAN, THAT'S IMPLICIT IN THE CODE, BUT IS IT SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO HAVE? PERSONALLY, I WOULD LIKE IT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, UNFORTUNATELY, PRIOR EXPERIENCE WITH OTHER PROJECTS, NOT THAT THESE GUYS HAVE BEEN TRUSTWORTHY AND GOOD COMMUNICATORS AND INVOLVED RESIDENTS, BUT IN OTHER PROJECTS WE'VE HAD WHERE THINGS THAT WEREN'T DOCUMENTED, WE THOUGHT WE HAD AGREEMENT, BUT THEY WEREN'T FOLLOWED, BUT WE DIDN'T DOCUMENT THEM. SO WE DIDN'T REALLY HAVE AS MUCH TO GO BACK ON. SO MY VIEW, I'M JUST ONE OF SEVEN PEOPLE. MY VIEW IS IT WOULD BE NICE TO INCLUDE THAT CONDITION. AND THOSE WERE THE ONLY CHANGES THAT I HAVE. I HAD TAKEN IN FROM THE CONVERSATION. BARTON.
ANY COUNCIL QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? OKAY. ERICA, YOU MENTIONED THAT THIS IS AR3T 18 ZONE. YES. AND THIS ZONE ALLOWS COMMERCIAL USE. THIS ZONE ALLOWS FOR THROUGH THE CONDITIONAL USE PROCESS ALLOWS FOR THE APPROVAL OF. AND IT'S LAID OUT IN SECTION 50 8-4 73. ALLOWS FOR CONDITIONAL USE APPROVAL OF RESTAURANTS OR AND TRANSIENT LODGING FACILITIES, AND THIS PROJECT WAS GRANTED CONDITIONAL USE APPROVAL FOR THOSE USES. OKAY. AND BASED ON THAT INFORMATION, THIS COUNCIL HAS THE AUTHORITY TO DECIDE ON THIS PARTICULAR AGENDA ITEM. IS THAT CORRECT? I BELIEVE THAT YOU DO, YES. MR. DICKMAN, YOU AGREE WITH THAT STATEMENT? I DO, THANK YOU. AND, ERICA, IN YOUR OPINION, STANDARDS HAVE BEEN MET FOR THIS CONDITION? YES. FOR THIS PETITION, STAFF FINDS THAT THE CRITERIA HAVE BEEN MET. OKAY. THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT. THANK YOU. MAYOR. THANK YOU. DO YOU HAVE THE DETAILS YOU NEEDED FOR THE TYPES OF LIVE ENTERTAINMENT THAT WILL BE ON THE GOLF SIDE? ARE THERE DETAILS TO NUMBER OF LIKE WE WOULD DO WITH ANY OTHER PETITION? HOW MANY PIECE THERE WAS AMPLIFIED NOT AMPLIFIED. I DID INCLUDE IN IN THE STAFF REPORT YOU WOULD SEE SHOULD CITY COUNCIL VOTE TO APPROVE LIVE ENTERTAINMENT PERMIT 20 6-L3 STAFF RECOMMEND THAT THE PETITIONER BETTER DEFINE THE TYPE OF ENTERTAINMENT THAT WILL BE PROVIDED NOT EVERYWHERE IN EVERY LOCATION, BUT I THOUGHT THERE WAS SOME CONCERN. I HAD HEARD SOME CONCERN ABOUT A COUPLE OF THE LOCATIONS, ONE BEING THE PENTHOUSE, THE PRESIDENTIAL SUITE LOCATION, AND ALSO THE LOCATION. I THINK IT'S NUMBER FOUR ON THE GOLF COURSE. YOU KNOW, ARE THESE APPROPRIATE LOCATIONS FOR AN EIGHT PIECE AMPLIFIED ROCK BAND OR THESE LOCATIONS MORE APPROPRIATE FOR ACOUSTICAL MUSIC OR, YOU KNOW, A LIMITATION ON THE NUMBER OF PERFORMERS, THE SPACES THAT ARE DEPICTED JUST SIZE WISE IN THOSE LOCATIONS WOULDN'T ALLOW A HUGE SETUP. BUT I JUST, IF THAT WAS FOR COUNCIL'S
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CONSIDERATION, IS DO WE WANT TO PUT SOME LIMITATIONS ON WHAT'S ALLOWED JUST IN THOSE SPECIFIC LOCATIONS? BECAUSE THOSE APPEAR TO BE THE MOST SENSITIVE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. YEAH, I THINK THAT'S VERY THOUGHTFUL. NUMBER FOUR DOESN'T REALLY SHOW THE DIMENSIONS UNLESS YOU CAN TELL ME WHAT THOSE DIMENSIONS ARE FOR. NUMBER FOUR, WHICH IS THE CLOSEST TO THE RESIDENCE INSIDE THAT CLUBHOUSE LAWN. YEAH. HOLD ON. THAT IS 20 BY 15 ON THE CLUBHOUSE LAWN. SO THAT IS A LARGER LOCATION. THAT IS ONE OF THE LARGEST LOCATIONS THAT COULD ALLOW FOR A MORE EXTENSIVE SETUP. COULD I ASK? MR. GO AHEAD, MR. BOOKER. JUST THE FACT THAT THAT WOULD BE SOMEPLACE THAT YOU COULD CONSIDER HAVING A WEDDING, IS THAT THE INTENTION OF THAT? AND WOULD LIMITING THAT SPACE TO MORE OF AN ACOUSTICAL OPPORTUNITY INSTEAD OF LIVE AMPLIFIED MUSIC? BE OKAY, LIMITING THE AMOUNT OF PERFORMERS I WOULD SHY AWAY FROM LIMITING ACOUSTIC ONLY BECAUSE IF THERE IS A VIOLINIST THAT'S AN ELECTRIC VIOLINIST THAT WANTS TO PLUG INTO A SPEAKER IN A WEDDING SO THAT I CAN WALK DOWN THE AISLE, THAT SEEMS TO BE A COMMON THEME RIGHT NOW. THANK YOU. I THINK THAT'S A VERY GOOD COMMENT. SO JUST LIMITING IT THAT IT WOULD BE MORE ACOUSTICAL, AMPLIFIED, AMPLIFIED, LIMITING THE NUMBER OF PERFORMERS, PERFORMERS, I THINK IS WHAT WE'RE WHAT YOU'RE WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO, CORRECT? YES. AS LONG AS IT'S NOT A CONCERN OF COUNCIL. ERICA, DON'T. KRAMER. SORRY. THANK YOU.MAYOR. DONOR NOISE ORDINANCES HANDLE WHATEVER ACCESS THERE WOULD BE. OUR NOISE ORDINANCE IN THE CODE WILL BE APPLICABLE TO ALL LOCATIONS AT ALL TIMES. THEN THERE YOU GO. AND DO THEY.
YOU GUYS PUT UP DECIBEL MONITORS ON THE ON THE EDGE OF THE PROPERTY. YOU DID THAT? YEAH. WE'RE COMMITTING TO DO THAT. YES. IT'S ON THE RESOLUTION THAT WE'RE COMMITTING TO PUT THE DECIBEL MONITORS AT THE EDGE OF THE PROPERTY LINE. THAT'S THAT'S EXCELLENT. I THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION, MAYOR. IS THAT I READ IT IN THE MATERIALS SOMEWHERE I DON'T EVEN REMEMBER. I DON'T KNOW IF I'VE HEARD THAT FROM A PETITIONER BEFORE. I'VE BEEN ON COUNCIL, SO THAT'S PRETTY COOL. THANKS FOR DOING THAT. THANK YOU. RESOLUTION.
IT'S PROBABLY IN THE PETITION. I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT RELATES TO STAFFING PURPOSES. MISS MARTIN THERE. WHAT'S THE PURPOSE OF A I DON'T EVEN IT'S NOT ON THE RESOLUTION. SORRY. I DO SEE IT. NUMBER FOUR. IT SAYS DECIBEL METERS AT THE PROPERTY LINE. YEAH. THEY HAD VOLUNTEERED THAT IN THERE TO ENSURE COMPLIANCE WITH NOISE STANDARDS. RIGHT. SO BUT I DON'T KNOW, I MEAN, I THINK IT'S GREAT. THANK YOU. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S AN EXPENSE YOU NEED BECAUSE IF THERE'S A COMPLAINT YOU'RE REALLY GOING TO MEASURE IT AT THAT TIME, CORRECT? YES. IF THERE IS A COMPLAINT OF A NOISE VIOLATION, THE RESPONDING OFFICER WILL VERIFY THAT COMPLAINT. RIGHT. THE ONLY OTHER THING IS ON MR. DICKMAN, THE EXHIBIT A JUST CLARIFYING THERE'S NO LEGAL DESCRIPTION FOR THE SHED BECAUSE THAT'S COMING IN AT A DIFFERENT TIME. THAT JUST NEEDS TO BE CLEANED UP. YES. OKAY. OKAY. DO I HAVE ANY PUBLIC OR EXCUSE ME, COUNCIL. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? NO PUBLIC COMMENT. THANK YOU. CLOSING REMARKS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION. VERY THOUGHTFUL CONSIDERATIONS FROM ALL FROM ALL OF YOU. WE WOULD RESPECTFULLY REQUEST APPROVAL OF THIS APPLICATION AND FOLLOWED BY THE INDOOR APPLICATION. THANK YOU. COUNCIL DELIBERATIONS. IF NOT, DO I HAVE A MOTION? TAKE A WHACK AT IT. YEAH, I'LL TAKE A WHACK. OKAY. I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE REQUEST FOR OUTDOOR LIVE ENTERTAINMENT WITH THE FOLLOWING CHANGES THAT WERE DISCUSSED TO THE DRAFT RESOLUTION. ONE IS TO DELETE THE WORD PERMANENT FROM ITEM
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TEN. THE NEXT IS IN ITEM 12 TO INCLUDE ANNUAL REVIEWS FOR THE LANDLORD SIDE ONLY UNTIL COMPLETION OF THE GOLF COURSE AND FOR RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS. AND I GUESS A NEW NUMBER 13, WHICH IS. SPECIAL EVENTS WILL BE PERMITTED SEPARATELY. IS THAT IS THAT THE RIGHT LANGUAGE? ERICA. OKAY. SECOND, I THINK THAT'S ALL THE CHANGES. I HAVE A MOTION BY VICE MAYOR AND A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER KRAMER. MADAM CLERK, PLEASE PULL THE COUNCIL. VICE MAYOR BLANKENSHIP.YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. BARTON. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. KRAMER. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. KRULL. YES.
COUNCIL MEMBER. PENMAN. YES. COUNCILMEMBER SCHULTZ. YES. MAYOR HARTMAN. YES. THANK YOU.
[11.B) Continued from the February 18, 2026, City Council Meeting A Resolution Determining Live Entertainment Petition 26-LE4 Establishing Amplified Indoor (With Doors And Windows Closed) Live Entertainment Seven Days Per Week in Multiple Locations on Private Property, Pursuant to Section 56-125 of the Code of Ordinances, for the Naples Beach Club Owned by Naples Beach Club Land Trust Trustee, LLC, a Delaware Limited Liability Company, and Located At 801 and 802 Gulf Shore Boulevard North, More Fully Described Herein; providing for Scrivener's Errors; providing Findings and Conditions; and providing an Effective Date.]
COUNCIL. THAT TAKES US TO ITEM 11 B, MR. DICKMAN. YES, MA'AM. THIS IS A RESOLUTION DETERMINING LIVE ENTERTAINMENT PETITION 20 6-LE4 ESTABLISHING AMPLIFIED INDOOR PARENTHESES WITH DOORS AND WINDOWS CLOSED. CLOSED PARENTHESES. LIVE ENTERTAINMENT SEVEN DAYS PER WEEK IN MULTIPLE LOCATIONS ON PRIVATE PROPERTY PURSUANT TO SECTION 50 6-1 25 OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES FOR THE NAPLES BEACH CLUB, OWNED BY NAPLES BEACH CLUB LAND TRUST TRUSTEE LLC, A DELAWARE LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY AND LOCATED AT 801 AND 802 GULF SHORE BOULEVARD NORTH. MORE FULLY DESCRIBED HEREIN, PROVIDING FOR SCRIVENER'S ERRORS, PROVIDING FOR FINDINGS AND CONDITIONS, AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THANK YOU. SORRY. YES. SWEARING IN FOR ALL THOSE INTENDING TO OFFER TESTIMONY WHO WERE NOT PREVIOUSLY SWORN, PLEASE RISE TO. THANK YOU. DISCLOSURES. COUNCIL MEMBER PRO. MET WITH MANAGEMENT AND WHERE ARE THE LOCATIONS FAMILIAR WITH THE SITE COMMUNICATIONS WITH STAFF IN REFERENCE TO THIS PARTICULAR AGENDA ITEM, JUST FOR CLARITY, KRAMER, FAMILIAR WITH THE SITE, MET WITH STAFF WITH REGARDS TO IT BEING AN AGENDA ITEM. SCHULTZ I DID VISIT WITH DIEGO AND THE CROWD THERE, AND IT'S BEEN 3.5 HOURS GOING OVER EVERYTHING, SO I DEFINITELY SPOKE WITH THEM. DID NOT SPEAK WITH STAFF, BUT I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE PROPERTY. PENMAN FAMILIAR WITH THE SITE.NO. CONTACT. BLANKENSHIP. AS MENTIONED BEFORE, I'VE HAD MEETINGS WITH MANAGEMENT, A TOUR OF THE PROPERTY YESTERDAY AND COMMUNICATIONS WITH NEARBY RESIDENTS. THANK YOU. I AM VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE SITE, SPOKE WITH STAFF REFERENCE TO THIS PETITION AND SPOKE WITH RESIDENTS AND RECEIVED EMAILS AND CORRESPONDENCE WITH THAT. GOOD MORNING, MR. BROOKER. GOOD MORNING MAYOR, VICE MAYOR COUNCIL. MY NAME IS CLAY BROOKER WITH THE LAW FIRM OF PASSIDOMO 820 ONE FIFTH AVENUE SOUTH. IF ACCEPTABLE, I WOULD LIKE TO SIMPLY INCORPORATE FROM THE PRESENTATION FROM 11 A THAT WE JUST WENT THROUGH AND MAKE THAT PART OF THE RECORD FOR. 11 B THE SAME CONDITIONS WOULD APPLY IN TERMS OF STANDARDIZED AV EQUIPMENT, SOUND LIMITERS AND DECIBEL READERS, JUST FOR CLARIFICATION. SO EVERYONE REALIZES NOW THAT WE'RE ON THE INDOOR SIDE OF THINGS. ON YOUR SCREEN ARE THE TWO INDOOR LOCATIONS PROPOSED ON THE HOTEL OR GULF SIDE SEAWARD? SIDE NUMBER ONE IS WHAT WE CALL THE JUNIOR BALLROOM, AND NUMBER TWO IS THE MERCHANT ROOM INDOORS ON THE LANDWARD SIDE EAST OF WILSHIRE BOULEVARD. THESE ARE THE TWO INDOOR LOCATIONS BEING PROPOSED. NUMBER ONE IS THE BALLROOM OR CONFERENCE CENTER, AND NUMBER TWO IS WHAT'S DESCRIBED AS THE PAVILION INSIDE THE CLUBHOUSE. THOSE ARE THE TOTAL OF FOUR INDOOR LOCATIONS THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED BY THIS APPLICATION.
WE WOULD REQUEST AGAIN THAT THE WORD AND THE AND THE THE CONDITION THAT RELATES TO KNOW THAT THE AMPLIFIED MUSIC OR AMPLIFIED MUSIC SHALL COME FROM PERMANENT SPEAKERS, THAT THE WORD PERMANENT BE STRICKEN AGAIN FOR THE REASONS PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED. THAT'S
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NUMBER EIGHT IN THIS RESOLUTION. CORRECT? I WAS NUMBER EIGHT. AND WITH THAT, I'LL CONCLUDE AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE. THANK YOU. COUNCIL QUESTIONS FOR THE PETITIONER, SERGEANT. OKAY. THANK YOU. GO TO THE STAFF REPORT. GOOD MORNING. ERIC MARTIN, PLANNING DIRECTOR. YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU THE REQUEST FOR INDOOR LIVE ENTERTAINMENT FOR THE NAPLES BEACH HOTEL. I WOULD ALSO INCORPORATE ALL OF THE BACKGROUND FROM MY PREVIOUS STAFF REPORT. I WON'T GO THROUGH ALL OF THAT BEFORE TODAY. THIS REQUEST IS FOR FOUR LOCATIONS. I WOULD NOTE THAT WHEN WE SAY INDOOR, YOUR CODE SPECIFIES THAT INDOOR MEANS THAT THE DOORS AND WINDOWS WILL REMAIN CLOSED AT ALL TIMES. SO IT'S NOT JUST THE LOCATION OF THE ENTERTAINER. IF YOU HAD AN ENTERTAINER THAT WAS INSIDE A BUILDING, BUT THE INTENT WAS TO HAVE ALL THE DOORS AND WINDOWS OPEN DURING PERFORMANCES, WE WOULD CONSIDER THAT OUTDOOR LIVE ENTERTAINMENT. SO INDOOR SPECIFICALLY MEANS INSIDE THE ESTABLISHMENT DOORS AND WINDOWS WILL REMAIN CLOSED. OBVIOUSLY, DOORS WILL OPEN AS GUESTS COME IN AND OUT OF THE THE BUILDINGS, BUT THE INTENT IS THAT THOSE DOORS AND WINDOWS ARE CLOSED DURING THE TIME THAT THE PERFORMERS ARE ARE ACTIVE. SO THERE'S FOUR LOCATIONS, TWO WITHIN MARKET SQUARE, ONE WITHIN MARKET SQUARE, ONE WITHIN THE CLUBHOUSE, AND THEN TWO ON THE HOTEL SIDE. AGAIN, WE NOTICE THIS PETITION AT THE SAME TIME THAT WE NOTICED THE OTHER ONE, THE OUTDOOR LIVE ENTERTAINMENT. THE NOTIFICATION WAS SENT TO 727 PROPERTIES WITHIN 1000FT OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. ALL THE COMMUNICATION THAT WE RECEIVED AS A RESULT OF THAT NOTICE IS IN THE PACKET, AND THAT IS ALL THAT WE RECEIVED AS OF THE DATE OF PUBLICATION THAT'S IN YOUR PACKET. WE ALSO SENT THIS OUT TO ALL OF THE SAME DEPARTMENTS. THE ONLY COMMENTS THAT WE HAD ON THIS INDOOR WAS WERE FROM THE FIRE DEPARTMENT IN THE SENSE THAT THEY REVIEWED THIS, REVIEWED THIS AGAINST THE APPLICABLE LIFE SAFETY REGULATIONS, AND FOUND THAT THE LIFE SAFETY PLANS THAT ARE INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET AND REFERENCE IN YOUR RESOLUTION ARE CONSISTENT WITH LIFE SAFETY REGULATIONS. WE REVIEWED THIS AGAINST THE CRITERIA IN YOUR CODE AND FOUND THAT THE REQUEST IS CONSISTENT WITH THOSE CRITERIA AND OUR RECOMMENDING A TOTAL OF TEN CONDITIONS. THE ONLY CHANGE THAT I'VE HEARD TODAY ABOUT THOSE TEN CONDITIONS IS TO THAT STANDARD CONDITION, WHICH IN THIS RESOLUTION IS NUMBER EIGHT, AND THAT WOULD BE TO REMOVE THE WORD PERMANENT. OTHER THAN THAT, THOSE ARE THE TEN CONDITIONS SIMILAR TO THE ONES IN THE LAST RESOLUTION. AND I'M AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS. A COUPLE QUESTIONS. OKAY. I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY ON THE IN THE MAP THAT YOU'RE USING OR REFERENCING.THE MAP. THIS IS THE POWERPOINT FROM THE DESIGNER. IS THAT SO THE RESOLUTION REFERENCES THE TWO LIFE SAFETY PLANS. SO THERE'S THE HOTEL LIFE SAFETY PLAN AND THE LANDLORD LIFE SAFETY PLAN. I THINK THEY HAD AN OVERALL. MAP, IF YOU WILL. THIS IS LIKE AN ILLUSTRATION THAT SHOWS THE LOCATIONS. BUT THE. TO BE CLEAR, THE RESOLUTION SPECIFICALLY WHAT WE'RE RELYING UPON ARE THE LIFE SAFETY PLANS BECAUSE THOSE PROVIDE MORE DETAIL AND THOSE ARE ACCURATELY MARKED. THOSE ARE CORRECT. THAT'S WHAT'S IN THE RESOLUTION. THE CLUBHOUSE AND THE MARKET SQUARE. YEP. THEY ARE THEY'RE REFERENCED IN YOUR RESOLUTION AS HOTEL INDOOR LIFE SAFETY PLAN AND LANDLORD INDOOR LIFE SAFETY PLAN. AND THEN THE ONLY OTHER QUESTION I HAVE IS THESE THE ITEMS THAT ARE GIVEN AS FAR AS IT WAS IN YOUR. STAFF REPORT, THE MAP THAT'S ON THERE THAT SAYS THE UPDATED LIVE ENTERTAINMENT LOCATIONS. I THINK IT'S ALSO IN THE OUTDOOR PETITION THAT HAS BEEN UPDATED. THIS IS A LEGAL QUESTION THAT HAS BEEN UPDATED TO PRESENT POSITIONS, BUT THE STAFF REPORT STILL SHOWS AND REFLECTS THE OLD POSITIONS. IF THAT SHOULD BE UPDATED TO THE AERIALS THAT ARE AT CURRENT. WHICH SIGNIFICANT? WHICH ONE IS? IT'S THE ONE THAT JUST HAS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, BUT IT'S THE OLD. IT'S NOT LIKE THIS. IT'S THE OLDER ONE. ON PAGE EIGHT, ORIGINAL PROPERTY. I'M NOT SURE IT'S SOMETHING I CAN CLARIFY
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WITH THE ATTORNEY IF THAT'S OKAY AT A LATER DATE. IT'S JUST REALLY ABOUT WHAT'S REFERENCING THE LOCATIONS AND DEPICTS THE PICTURES. NO ONE HAS AN ISSUE WITH THAT. I CAN CLARIFY IT WITH THE ATTORNEY AFTERWARDS. IT'S NOT A BIG DEAL. IT'S JUST MAKING SURE WE HAVE REFERENCE TO THE CORRECT LAYOUT. OKAY, WHATEVER IS WHATEVER. IF IT IS APPROVED, WE WILL ENSURE THAT THE CORRECT LOCATION WILL BE AN EXHIBIT TO THE WHATEVER APPROVAL THAT IS. GOT IT. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. OKAY. I DO HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT. CLOSING REMARKS. WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL. THANK YOU. COUNCIL DELIBERATIONS OR SHOULD IF BEFORE YOU MAKE THAT MOTION. IF I COULD, MADAM MAYOR, IF NO ONE HAS ANY OBJECTION, I WOULD LIKE TO INCLUDE THE RECORD FROM THE PREVIOUS RESOLUTION, BECAUSE THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION AND I AND I THINK SOME PEOPLE MAY BE REFERRED JUST REFERRING TO THAT. SO I THINK I WOULD JUST LIKE TO INCLUDE THAT RECORD WITH THIS RECORD AS WELL. NO, NO OBJECTION TO THAT. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. I NEED TO BE A PART OF THE MOTION. YES. OKAY. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE LIVE ENTERTAINMENT PETITION. 20 6-LE4, INCLUDING ALL TEN CONDITIONS, WITH THE FOLLOWING CHANGE TO CONDITION NUMBER EIGHT, REMOVE THE WORD PERMANENT AND ALSO TO INCLUDE THE RECORD FROM OUR PREVIOUS OUTDOOR LIVE ENTERTAINMENT AGENDA ITEM. SECOND, KELLY.SECOND FRIENDLY AMENDMENT REGARDS TO SUN. SUN SETTING ON THE SOUND ISSUE ON AN ANNUAL BASIS THAT IT WOULD. THAT WAS ONLY APPLICABLE TO THE LI. THE LANDLORD'S SIDE OF THE EQUATION AND OUTDOOR ENTERTAINMENT. SO THIS ONE STILL HAS THAT SIX MONTH REVIEW IN IT, WHICH IS NUMBER TEN ON THE CONDITIONS. BUT A SIX MONTH REVIEW AT THIS POINT IN TIME WOULD TAKE US TO SELECT OVER THAT. WOULD THAT COINCIDE WITH WHAT SEASON IS VERSUS NOT. SO I THINK WE SHOULD EXTEND THAT TO I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD. AND MY MOTION STANDS. I THINK WE'VE GOT A SECOND. AND YOU'RE PROBLEM WITH THAT IS I DON'T THINK IT'S NECESSARY. WE OUR OUR OUR CODES REQUIRE A SIX MONTH REVIEW AFTER THE AFTER IT'S APPROVED. AND THAT'S WHAT WE SHOULD STICK TO. THAT'S SIX MONTHS ONLY GOES BACK OVER. I'M AWARE I'D LIKE TO STICK WITH WITH THE WAY THE MOTION. I'VE, I'VE I'VE SUGGESTED. I WOULD LIKE TO STICK WITH THAT, PLEASE. I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER BARTON. DID I GET A SECOND? THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER PENMAN. NO FURTHER DISCUSSION. MADAM CLERK, PLEASE PULL THE COUNCIL. COUNCILMEMBER SCHULTZ, BASED ON MY COMMENTS EARLIER, I VOTE NO. COUNCIL MEMBER. PENMAN. YES. VICE MAYOR BLANKENSHIP.
YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. BARTON. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. KRAMER. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. KRULL. YES.
MAYOR HEITMANN. YES. PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU. 60161. SORRY. THANK YOU. COUNCIL.
THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YEAH. HAPPY APRIL FOOL'S DAY. YEAH, WE WERE JUST KIDDING. GOOD FOR YOU, MAYOR. WITH THAT, THAT CONCLUDES 11 A 11 B TAKING US TO ITEM 12.
[13.A) Executive Session regarding Riccardo, Theresa v. City of Naples, Case No. 24-CA-002400, 20th Judicial Circuit, in and for Collier County, Florida (12:30pm Time Certain).]
THERE ARE NO NEW BUSINESS. 13 A, WHICH IS A CANCELED EXECUTIVE SESSION, WHICH. MR. YOUNG OR WOULD THIS BE THE APPROPRIATE TIME TO INSERT THAT INSTEAD OF THAT EXECUTIVE SESSION AT 1215? YEAH, THAT'S FINE. THAT WE TAKE A RECESS AT 1215 AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN CONCLUDE THIS ITEM AND SEE WHERE WE ARE AND PROGRESSING THROUGH THE DAY, BUT THAT WE WILL BE TAKING FOR A CALL. YEAH, I THINK THAT IF WE PLAN FOR A RECESS AT 1215, LET'S SEE WHERE WE ARE. WE ONLY HAVE THREE ITEMS LEFT ON THE AGENDA. AND I THINK THAT WHEN WE ANNOUNCED THE RECESS, WE WOULD ANNOUNCE AN ESTIMATED TIME TO RETURN. OKAY? OKAY. THANK YOU. AND WITH THAT, LET'S[13.B) Discussion and Direction regarding the Property Assessment Clean Energy (PACE) Program.]
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SEE. WE'RE GOING TO 13 B. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. I'LL INTRODUCE THIS ONE. SO AS AS YOU MAY RECALL, I HAD KIND OF GIVEN COUNCIL THE HEADS UP AT A WORKSHOP THAT WE HAD WHAT WAS CALLED THE PACE PROGRAM INTRODUCED BACK IN 2018. THERE WAS A RESOLUTION THAT AUTHORIZED THE CITY MANAGER AT THAT POINT TO EXECUTE CERTAIN PACE AGREEMENTS AND TO BECOME PART OF THE PROGRAM. NOW, AT THAT TIME, THERE WAS, I BELIEVE THESE ARE OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, BUT I THINK 3 OR 4 DIFFERENT PROGRAMS RELATED TO RESIDENTIAL, THEY WERE EXECUTED AND THE AGREEMENTS HAVE BEEN IN PLACE. NOW, THERE'S BEEN A HANDFUL OR SO, I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT QUANTITY OF OUR RESIDENTS THAT HAVE UTILIZED THAT PROGRAM. BUT BUT IT HAS, YOU KNOW, IT IT HAS BEEN IN EXISTENCE NOW, YOU KNOW, FOR THE EIGHT YEAR PERIOD, HOWEVER, AN ELIGIBILITY OF THAT RESOLUTION THAT THERE BE A COMMERCIAL PACE PROGRAM, BUT THERE WAS NO EXECUTION OF A COMMERCIAL PACE AGREEMENT. SO UNDER THE TERMS OF THE. WELL, LET ME BACK UP A STEP. MORE RECENTLY, WE WERE APPROACHED BY THE AVENUE AND ANDI HOPE I SAID THAT RIGHT. RELATED TO THE DESIRE TO UTILIZE THE COMMERCIAL PACE IN PART OF THEIR FINANCING STACK. AS A RESULT OF THAT, WE SET UP A MEETING AND ME AND THE CITY ATTORNEY AGREED THAT, YOU KNOW, WE PROBABLY HAVE THE RIGHT TO EXECUTE THE AGREEMENT UNDER THE PURE DEFINITION OF THE RESOLUTION, BUT SINCE IT HAD NEVER BEEN EXECUTED BACK IN 2018, THIS IS EXECUTING A NEW AGREEMENT. AT MINIMUM, WE SHOULD HAVE A PRESENTATION SO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT IT WAS THAT WAS AUTHORIZED AND WHAT THE COMMERCIAL PACE PROGRAM WOULD ENTAIL. IF WE GET CONSENSUS DIRECTION, THE CITY ATTORNEY BELIEVES THAT THAT THAT THAT GIVES ME THE AUTHORITY TO EXECUTE THE AGREEMENT CONSISTENT WITH THE TERMS OF THE AGREEMENT AND CONSISTENT WITH THE 2018 RESOLUTION. THAT IS THE REASON WHY WE DON'T HAVE AN ADDITIONAL RESOLUTION BEFORE YOU, AND THAT'S WHY WE ARE TREATING IT AS A DISCUSSION ITEM. SO WITH THAT SAID, WE ALSO HAVE A MR. BERKUS, WHO IS A COMMERCIAL. HE, HE, HE IS IN THE COMMERCIAL SPACE PROGRAM, WILL GIVE YOU AN OVERVIEW, AND THEN HIM AND ANDI WILL TAG TEAM GOING THROUGH THE INFORMATION TO PROVIDE TO YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MY NAME IS RYAN BERKUS. I'M WITH THE FLORIDA DEVELOPMENT FINANCE CORPORATION AND THE ADDRESS IS 157 TUSCAWILLA DRIVE IN WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA. I'M ASSUMING I JUST CLICKED THE BUTTON HERE TO MOVE THIS. OKAY. AND MR. YOUNG DID A REALLY GOOD JOB OF INTRODUCING THAT BECAUSE IT PROBABLY TOOK UP MY FIRST THREE SLIDES. SO IT'LL MOVE US ALONG FAIRLY QUICKLY. THE COMMERCIAL PACE PROGRAM HAS BEEN AVAILABLE IN FLORIDA FOR BASICALLY A DECADE, AND THE FD FC WAS CREATED WITH THAT INTENT. AND TO THAT PURPOSE. AND LET ME SEE. BE BETTER. THERE WE GO. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SO. TO THE POINT OF MR. YOUNG, YOU KNOW, IN 2018, THE CITY COUNCIL ORIGINALLY APPROVED THROUGH RESOLUTION 2018 ONE 4190. THIS AVAILABILITY FOR PACE HERE WITHIN THE CITY. AND THEN BEHIND THAT THERE WAS A SECOND RESOLUTION THAT WAS ACTUALLY PASSED THAT ALLOWED FOR THE CITY MANAGER TO MOVE FORWARD AND ADOPT THE OR MOVE FORWARD WITH AN AGREEMENT WITHOUT CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL. BUT IN THIS CASE, WE'RE EIGHT YEARS IN. SO I THINK IT'S GOOD THAT WE WERE COMING TO THE COUNCIL TO GET APPROVAL FOR THIS AGREEMENT. SO I'M JUST GOING TO SLIP PAST WHAT WE'VE ALREADY DISCUSSED AND JUST COME TO WHAT IS A COMMERCIAL PACE. SO COMMERCIAL PACE AT ITS HIGHEST LEVEL IS THE ABILITY TO FINANCE BUILDINGS THAT ENABLE PROPERTY OWNERS TO FUND QUALIFIED IMPROVEMENTS FOR BOTH NEW CONSTRUCTION AND EXISTING COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS. THE PROGRAM IS A VOLUNTARY FINANCING. THIS IS NOT LIKE A C, D, D. THIS IS LONG TERM FIXED RATE CAPITAL AND IT'S REPAID THROUGH A NON ASSESSMENT ON THE PROPERTY TAX BILL. THE COMMERCIAL PROGRAM INVOLVES SOPHISTICATED BORROWERS AND REQUIRES LENDERS LENDERS CONSENT AND ENSURES ALIGNMENT ACROSS ALL PARTIES IN THE CAPITAL STACK. SO FROM A PROCESSING STANDPOINT, A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY OWNER REQUEST C PACE FINANCING. THE PRIVATE FINANCING IS ARRANGED BETWEEN THE FFC, THE CAPITAL PROVIDER, AND THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTY OWNER. AND AGAIN, IF THE SENIOR LENDER IS INVOLVED IN CONSENT MUST BE RECEIVED. QUALIFYING IMPROVEMENTS ARE COMPLETED AND THEN THE CONTRACTORS ARE PAID AS THE ASSESSMENT IS PLACED ON THE PROPERTY OWNER'S TAX BILL THROUGH NONABLATIVE ASSESSMENT, AND IT IS REPAID OVER TIME. THE CITY IS NOT INVOLVED IN ANY[02:40:03]
UNDERWRITING APPROVAL OF THE FINANCING TERMS OR THE ADMINISTRATION OF THE PROGRAM.THOSE RESPONSIBILITIES REMAIN WITH THE FFC, SO ONE OF THE MAIN PRIMARY BENEFITS OF C PACE FOR THE PROPERTY OWNER IS THAT CAN REDUCE OVERALL COSTS BECAUSE OF ITS LONG TERM FIXED RATE NATURE, AND IT'S TIED TO THE PROPERTY AND TAX BILL. AND THIS ALLOWS FOR THE IMPROVEMENT OF PROJECT FEASIBILITY AND CAN FILL CAPITAL STACKS AND SUPPORT PROJECTS THAT MAY OTHERWISE NOT MOVE FORWARD. QUALIFYING IMPROVEMENTS THE PROGRAM IS LIMITED BY STATUTE TO QUALIFYING IMPROVEMENTS THAT INCLUDE ENERGY EFFICIENCY, RENEWABLE ENERGY, WATER CONSERVATION, AND STORM RESILIENCY MEASURES. THESE IMPROVEMENTS ARE CONFIRMED TO BE MET. THE INTENT OF THE STATUTE BY A LICENSED ENGINEER, QUALIFIED PROFESSIONALS, AND ARE REVIEWED BY THE FDA FC. THESE IMPROVEMENTS PROVIDE LONG TERM PUBLIC AND PRIVATE BENEFIT.
A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE FD FC. AS I HAD STATED BEFORE, WE ARE CREATING STATUTE OVER 30 YEARS AGO TO SUPPORT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT THROUGH THE FINANCING OF PROGRAMS LIKE CPS, AND WE. OUR SPACE PROGRAM IS A TURNKEY PROGRAM. FFC HANDLES ALL THE OPERATIONAL COMPONENTS AND PROVIDES THE TAX COLLECTOR AND THE PROPERTY APPRAISER DATA TO PUT ON THE TAX BILL. WE DID.
WITHIN OUR STATUTE, WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO C PACE, BUT WE WERE NOT GIVEN THE ABILITY TO LEVY AND COLLECT ASSESSMENTS. SO WE HAD CREATED WITH THE CITY OF FERNANDINA, FERNANDINA BEACH AND ALSO THE TOWN OF LAKE CLARKE SHORES, A DISTRICT. THAT DISTRICT IS CALLED THE FLORIDA RESILIENCE AND ENERGY DISTRICT. THIS DISTRICT IS THE ONE THAT WE WOULD HAVE AGREEMENTS WITH YOU, THE TAX COLLECTOR AND THE PROPERTY APPRAISER WITH TO LEVY AND COLLECT THOSE ASSESSMENTS.
SO AS I INDICATED BEFORE, THE PROGRAM HAS BEEN AROUND JUST OVER A DECADE IS WHEN WE STARTED PUTTING THIS PROGRAM TOGETHER. WE DID INITIAL ASSESSMENTS IN 2018, AND SINCE THAT TIME, WE'VE CLOSED OVER SIX PROJECTS FOR JUST OVER $1.1 BILLION IN FINANCING. SO THESE ARE NOT SMALL PROJECTS. THESE ARE, YOU KNOW, SOPHISTICATED BORROWERS WITH BIG PROJECTS.
FROM A PERSPECTIVE OF A FOOTPRINT. IN FLORIDA, F, C IS IN 37 COUNTIES AND 229 MUNICIPALITIES. IT STARTED BASICALLY IN SOUTHEAST FLORIDA, AND AS YOU CAN SEE, IS KIND OF WORKING ITS WAY UP INTO THE PANHANDLE. AND TYPICALLY THESE PROJECTS OR THESE AGREEMENTS COME TO US AS WE HAVE PROJECTS THAT ARE READY TO BE FUNDED WITHIN A COUNTY OR A CITY. SO FROM A LOCAL GOVERNMENT PERSPECTIVE, THE CPS IS HIGHLY EFFECTIVE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TOOL. IT DRIVES PRIVATE INVESTMENT, CREATES JOBS AND STRENGTHENS COMMERCIAL ASSESSMENTS. THESE ASSETS, EXCUSE ME, WITHOUT REQUIRING ANY PUBLIC FUNDS OR EXPOSING THE MUNICIPALITY TO ANY FINANCIAL RISK. IT ALSO HELPS ADDRESS UNINSURED COMMERCIAL HURRICANE LOSS BY FINANCING RESILIENCY UPGRADES THROUGH THE LONG TERM FIXED ASSESSMENTS, REDUCING IMMEDIATE CAPITAL, CAPITAL STRAIN ON PROJECTS. AND THEN I JUST WANTED TO TAKE A SECOND TO INVITE ANDY UP TO TALK ABOUT THE PROJECT AND WHY WE'RE LOOKING FOR THE FINANCING OF THIS AGREEMENT TO HAPPEN. GOOD MORNING EVERYONE. ANDY PENKOV. I AM THE DEVELOPER FOR THE AVENUE 905TH AVENUE SOUTH. GOOD MORNING EVERYONE. MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, COUNCIL. THANK YOU, MR. YOUNG. JUST AS A QUICK REMINDER ON THE PROJECT, THIS IS LOCATED ON FIFTH AVENUE BETWEEN NINTH STREET AND 11TH. IT'S ABOUT 4.3 ACRES. THERE ARE 50 RESIDENTIAL UNITS SPREAD ACROSS THAT WHOLE TWO PARCELS AND GROUND FLOOR RETAIL. SO AS FAR AS THE STATUS OF THE PROJECT IS CONCERNED, WE HAVE PAID FOR THE PERMITS ON THE 900 BLOCK, WHICH IS KIND OF THE THE WEST BLOCK OF HERE, AND WE'RE READY TO GET GOING. THIS PACE FINANCING REPRESENTS AN IMPORTANT COMPONENT OF THIS CAPITAL STACK AND ENABLES US TO CLOSE THE FINANCING AND, YOU KNOW, MAINTAIN THE MOMENTUM, DELIVER THE PROJECT ON SCHEDULE. FOR US, HAVING ACCESS TO THESE FINANCING TOOLS IS IMPORTANT, ESPECIALLY, YOU KNOW, FOR PROJECT OF THIS SCALE, HAVING, YOU KNOW, THIS WELL ESTABLISHED TOOL, THIS IS NOT AN EXPERIMENTAL THING. IT'S A VERY WELL ESTABLISHED TOOL, REALLY KIND OF KEEPS US ON TRACK AND KEEPS US MOVING. SO AGAIN, SIMPLY ALLOWS US TO MOVE FORWARD AND, YOU KNOW, CONTINUE DELIVERING THE PROJECT, YOU KNOW, THE WAY THAT IT'S INTENDED TO. AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S DELIVERED RIGHT.
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S DELIVERED IN THE APPROPRIATE FASHION AND HAVING, YOU KNOW, OUR CAPITAL STACK AND FINANCING IN A VERY SOLID PLACE WITH VERY SOLID BACKING BEHIND US IS
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IMPORTANT TO US. THANK YOU. AND SO JUST TO RECAP ON THIS, IS THIS AN ACTIVE PROGRAM WITHIN THE CITY ALREADY, WHICH IS EXECUTED AGREEMENTS ALREADY WITH OTHER PROGRAM PROVIDERS AND HAS BEEN PLACED WITHIN THE BOUNDARIES OF THE CITY. AND SO WITH THAT, WE WERE JUST ASKING TO COME IN FRONT OF THE COUNCIL TO ASK FOR YOU GUYS TO PROVIDE GUIDANCE TO STAFF WITH OUR AGREEMENT. AS WE NOTED BEFORE, THERE'S ALREADY AGREEMENTS HERE. WE DIDN'T EXECUTE AGREEMENT IN 2018. WE HAD THERE WAS ANOTHER SET OF FOLKS THAT WERE DOING AGREEMENTS AT THAT TIME, NOT SURE WHY THEY DID NOT MOVE FORWARD WITH IT, BUT WITH THE PROJECT HERE NOW, WE WOULD ASK THAT THE COUNCIL PROVIDE DIRECTION TO STAFF FOR THE EXECUTION OF THE AGREEMENT.QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PACE PROGRAM. VICE MAYOR. THANK YOU FOR THE DESCRIPTION EXPLANATION.
THAT WAS ALL ALL VERY HELPFUL AND I CAN SEE HOW IT WOULD BE A BENEFIT TO THE THE DEVELOPER.
AND IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S NO COST, NO RISK TO THE CITY OF IMPLEMENTING THIS PROGRAM HERE.
OTHER THAN THE ACTION TAKEN HERE, THERE'S NO COST OR NO RISK OR NOTHING FROM THE ADMINISTRATIVE SIDE, FROM THE CITY. OKAY, SO JUST A QUESTION ABOUT HISTORY. SO I REMEMBERED THAT THERE WAS SOME CONTROVERSY IN COLLIER COUNTY AROUND THE PACE PROGRAM, AND I THINK IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN AROUND THAT 2018 TIME FRAME. I TRIED TO GO BACK AND FIND INFORMATION ON IT, AND I COULDN'T GET A LOT OTHER THAN PEOPLE WERE UPSET THAT THEY FELT LIKE IT WAS MORE ON THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE. I THINK ABOUT THERE'S A BELIEF THAT SOME PEOPLE ARE BEING TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF, BUT I COULDN'T IDENTIFY WHAT HAPPENED, HOW IT WAS RESOLVED OR WHAT THE CURRENT STATUS IS. AND IF YOU HAVE ANY INFORMATION YOU COULD SHARE THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL, I CAN. SO I WAS DOWN THERE IN COLLIER COUNTY. THERE WERE SOME CONCERNS REVOLVING AROUND RESIDENTIAL AND I THINK CONTRACTORS. I THINK THOSE ISSUES HAVE BEEN RESOLVED. I WILL TELL YOU THAT AT THAT TIME THEY TERMINATED THE PROGRAM, BUT THEY DID BRING BACK CPS.
AND I THINK THAT WAS IN 2022, JUST AFTER. I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT HURRICANE CAME THROUGH AT THAT TIME, BUT I WAS CALLED BY ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS AND ASKED TO COME BACK UP THERE TO HELP RESOLVE SOME OF THE FUNDING ISSUES FOR BUILDINGS THAT NEED TO BE REPAIRED. SO FROM A CPS PERSPECTIVE, IN COLLIER COUNTY, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NO ISSUES, RIGHT? SO IT'S ACTIVE IN COLLIER COUNTY. AND WE I CAN SPEAK SPECIFICALLY TO OUR PROGRAM. WE'RE ACTIVE WITHIN COLLIER COUNTY SINCE 2022, PRIOR TO THAT TERMINATED AND THEN BROUGHT BACK. THANK YOU. YES, SIR. THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT THERE WASN'T A PROBLEM WITH AN ESTABLISHED CODE WITHIN THE CITY, AND THAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN THE PROBLEM OF SOLAR PANELS AND THE SOLAR PANEL PLACEMENT AND USE THAT I KNOW OF. OKAY. THAT WAS NOT A DISCUSSION POINT THAT I REMEMBER. PERFECT. OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER, I'M FAMILIAR WITH THE PACE PROGRAM WITH THE RESIDENTIAL AND I'M A BROKER AND WE DO DISCLOSE IF THERE'S A PACE LOAN ON THE PROPERTY WHEN WE'RE SELLING IT. I THINK THERE'S BEEN SOME PROBLEMS IN THE PAST WHEN IT BEFORE THE DISCLOSURE ABILITY CAME OUT WITH AS FAR AS PEOPLE KNOWING BECAUSE IT'S A TAX BILL ITEM AND NECESSARILY YOU COULD, YOU COULD CONVEY A PROPERTY. AND UNLESS THAT'S ADDRESSED THAT COULD SOMEONE CAN GET STUCK WITH THAT THAT PAYMENT THAT MAY NOT INTENDED. SO I MEAN, THE NEW DISCLOSURE REQUIREMENTS IN RESIDENTIAL AREA HAVE OBVIOUSLY ELIMINATED THAT ISSUE. YES.
THERE WAS THERE WAS AN UPDATE TO THE STATUTE ACTUALLY IN 2024 THAT ACTUALLY BIFURCATED RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL. BUT THERE WERE DISCLOSURE REQUIREMENTS WITHIN THAT. I'VE DONE DEALS WITH WITH THE PACE LOANS, BUT I WASN'T AWARE THAT NEW CONSTRUCTION WAS I WAS LOOKING AT MORE AS A PROGRAM FOR PEOPLE REHABBING AND UPGRADING THEIR INEFFICIENT AIR CONDITIONERS, EFFICIENT AND, AND SAME THING WITH WINDOWS, ETC. BUT NOW THE PROGRAM IS EXPANDED. IS THAT SOMETHING NEW OR IS THAT SINCE I'VE BEEN IN THE BUSINESS FOR TEN YEARS, IT'S BEEN NEW CONSTRUCTION AND REHAB'S I WOULD I'M VENTURING TO SAY I DON'T HAVE THE NUMBERS IN FRONT OF ME, BUT PROBABLY ABOUT 60% OF OUR FINANCINGS ARE ON NEW CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS. I KNOW THAT SOUNDS A LITTLE WEIRD, BUT IF YOU'RE BUILDING THE STRUCTURE AND COMPLETING IT TO BE MORE THAN CODE OR UP TO CODE, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, IMPROVING A BUILDING, THEN THAT'S WHAT THE FINANCING IS FOR, RIGHT? YOU WANT BETTER HVAC, YOU WANT STRONGER ROOFS OR BUILDINGS. SO YOU WANT THAT BUILT FROM THE BEGINNING. I KNOW YOU GUYS HAVE CODES HERE. I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THAT. BUT THE IDEA OF THE PROGRAM IS THAT YOU IMPROVE ABOVE CODE AND THAT'S WHAT YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE THIS FINANCING FOR. OKAY, SO A NEW CONSTRUCTION THAT COULD PUT A
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NEW WINDOWS ON THEIR AIR CONDITIONING, NEW WINDOWS, DOORS. YEAH, EVERYTHING. SO ANYTHING THAT HAS TO DO WITH ANY OF THOSE ITEMS WITHIN THE STATUTE'S ENERGY EFFICIENCY, RENEWABLE ENERGY, WATER REDUCTION, SO LOW FLOW, YOU KNOW, TOILETS OR, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING LIKE THAT WOULD BE LIGHTING, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING THAT WOULD REDUCE ENERGY OR WATER COST OR, YOU KNOW, FLOW THROUGH THAT BUILDING AND THE THEORY BEHIND IT, THE LOWER, LOWER FUNDING RATE, INTEREST RATE AND ALL THAT IS BASICALLY BECAUSE IT'S A KIND OF A HARD COLLECTION ITEM. NOW, YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT DEFAULT AS MUCH, BE IT TAX DEFAULT IF THEY RIGHT. CORRECT PHILOSOPHY BEHIND THAT BECAUSE OF THE REPAYMENT ON THE TAX BILL, IT'S PRETTY SECURE. SO IT ALLOWS THAT PRIVATE INVESTOR TO COME IN AND PROVIDE A RATE THAT'S LOWER THAN MARKET. YOU DO HAVE SENIOR LENDERS THAT ARE INVOLVED FROM THE CONSTRUCTION SIDE. THIS KIND OF REDUCES THE MEZZANINE, YOU KNOW RATE THAT WOULD BE PAID. SO I THINK I HAD A SLIDE UP THERE THAT I MEAN THE INTEREST RATES WEREN'T EXACTLY RIGHT. BUT I MEAN, YOU MAY BE MAKING A CHANGE FROM 10 OR 11% DOWN TO 8 OR 9% RIGHT NOW, MAYBE 7.5%, DEPENDING ON THE PROJECT. OKAY. GREAT. GREAT. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. I DON'T HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT. MR. YOUNG, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY? SO IF WE COULD THOUGH, HAVE A, YOU KNOW, AN ACTUAL EVEN THOUGH IT IS A CONSENSUS DIRECTION, I WOULD LIKE IT, YOU KNOW, IN THE FORM OF, YOU KNOW, TO GO AHEAD AND EXECUTE THE COMMERCIAL PACE. AND THEN IF THERE IS A VOTE SO THAT IT AFFIRMS IT ON THE RECORD, IF I COULD. OKAY. COUNCIL MOTION OR. COUNCILMAN KRULL. I MAKE A MOTION TO AUTHORIZE THE SIGNING APPROVAL TO PAY FOR PACE LOANS. DID YOU SAY MAKE A MOTION TO EXECUTE THE COMMERCIAL PAGE TO EXECUTE THE COMMERCIAL DOCUMENT RESOLUTION TO ALLOW ALLOW PACE FINANCING? YEAH, I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER AND A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER PENMAN. NO FURTHER DISCUSSION. MADAM CLERK, PLEASE PULL THE COUNCIL.VICE MAYOR BLANKENSHIP. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. KRULL. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. BARTON. YES.
COUNCIL MEMBER. KRAMER. YES. COUNCILMEMBER SCHULTZ. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. PENMAN. YES.
MAYOR HARTMAN. YES. THANK YOU. COUNCIL PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. GOOD LUCK. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
[13.C) Consideration of the Repeat Special Event Applications Enumerated Below:1. Fourth of July Parade – Downtown Naples2. Fourth of July Fireworks – Naples Beach]
APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. THAT TAKES US TO ITEM 13 C. YES. ITEM 13 C IS A CONSIDERATION OF REPEAT SPECIAL EVENT APPLICATION. I BELIEVE MR. MERRITT IS HERE AND WILL BE OUT SHORTLY TO DISCUSS THESE ITEMS. GOOD MORNING, MR. MAYOR. YES, SORRY. GOOD MORNING. WAS A LITTLE FORMATTED A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY. CHAD MERRITT, COMMUNITY SERVICES DIRECTOR THE THIS ITEM IS JUST MAINLY TO BRING ATTENTION TO THE. WHAT YOU'VE ALREADY SPOKEN ABOUT EARLIER TODAY, WHICH WAS THE AMERICA 250 CELEBRATION. WE DO HAVE OUR ANNUAL 4TH OF JULY PARADE AND FIREWORKS THAT ARE SCHEDULED. I PUT THIS ON HERE TO HOPEFULLY ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO PARTICIPATE IN THE PARADE.FOR ONE, WE WANT TO HAVE A VERY BIG ATTENDANCE IN THE PARADE THIS YEAR. WE HOPE THAT THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF. AND I AND I HOPE THAT OTHER LOCAL BUSINESSES AND ORGANIZATIONS WILL BE AVAILABLE TO CELEBRATE. THIS IS A. IT'S ONLY GOING TO HAPPEN ONCE. SO. 250 IS IS HERE. SO I THOUGHT THIS WAS A GOOD TIME TO KIND OF SHINE LIGHT ON THAT. WE WILL BE DOING THE FIREWORKS AS PLANNED.
WE WILL HAVE TO DO A LITTLE BIT OF A SHIFT ON THE FIREWORKS WITH THE NAPLES PIER. SO I ALSO WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU ALL WERE AWARE OF THAT. THAT WILL PROBABLY SHIFT. THE FIREWORKS WILL WILL DETERMINE THAT AT A LITTLE CLOSER TO THE TIME, BUT MORE OR LESS JUST TO HAVE A CONVERSATION AND, AND SEE, I'M NOT GOING TO HOLD YOU TO IT YET, BUT WE WILL BE PUTTING OUT SOME RSVP FOR YOU ALL AND HOPE THAT YOU CAN ATTEND AND BRING FAMILIES AND FRIENDS. AND LET'S HAVE A BIG CELEBRATION. WE'RE GOING TO PROBABLY HAVE OUR TRADITIONAL FLOAT WHERE WE SPRAY EVERYBODY AT THE END BECAUSE IT'S NICE AND TOASTY. DURING THAT TIME,
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WE DID MOVE IT. SO IF YOU RECALL, WE MOVED THE PARADE A LITTLE BIT EARLIER SO THAT WE COULD TRY TO AT LEAST GET IN A LITTLE BIT LESS HEAT THAN WHAT WE TYPICALLY ARE. BUT WE HAVE WE HAD A GOOD TIME LAST TIME. OBVIOUSLY LAST YEAR WE HAD SOME ISSUES, HAD TO CANCEL IT BECAUSE OF A STORM THAT WAS IMPENDING. BUT WE YEAH. THAT'S IT. I DON'T KNOW IF THE MAYOR WANTS TO SAY SOMETHING IN ADDITION TO WITH THIS. I KNOW YOU'VE ALREADY SAID NO, THANK YOU. I, I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A FABULOUS CELEBRATION FOR US LOCALLY. QUALITY OVER QUANTITY. ANYTIME IS APPRECIATED, SO I DO. I THANK YOU FOR ENCOURAGING OUR COMMUNITY TO PARTICIPATE IN MORE FLOATS AND BANDS AS I KNOW IT IS A TIME WHERE SCHOOL'S OUT, BUT MAYBE YOU'LL GET SOME CONCERT BANDS AND BECAUSE THE COMMUNITY LOVES THOSE, THAT PIECE. YEAH, THAT'S ALWAYS THE CHALLENGE WITH THE SUMMER IS THE SCHOOLS ARE OUT, SO IT'S ALWAYS HARD TO GET BANDS. BUT YOU KNOW, WE, WE LIKE TO, WE'D LOVE TO SEE LOCAL TEENS AND THE KIDS OUT AND WALKING AND CELEBRATING AND WEAR YOUR BEST RED, WHITE AND BLUE. AND DANIELLE, I ACTUALLY LET DANIELLE CHIME IN ON THE PARADE. AND IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN BEING IN THE PARADE AND WHO YOU NEED TO CONTACT AND HOW THAT PROCESS WORKS, THANK YOU, CHAD.DANIELLE FOR SPECIAL EVENTS AND MARKETING SUPERVISOR. SO THE APPLICATION FOR THE 4TH OF JULY PARADE WILL BE ON OUR WEBSITE. IT WILL BE UNDER THE COMMUNITY SERVICES DEPARTMENT AND WE'LL HAVE A SPECIAL TAB UNDER THAT, WHICH WILL BE LISTED FOR 4TH OF JULY PARADE, FIREWORKS, PARADE AND FIREWORKS. THERE WILL BE RULES ATTACHED TO IT. SO WE JUST ASK THAT EVERYBODY REVIEWS THE RULES, FILL OUT THE APPLICATION, AND THEN IT CAN BE SENT TO EVENTS AT NAPLES. GOV.
COM. SO THERE WE HAVE IT. SO IF ANYBODY WANTS TO ADD ANYTHING. IF NOT WE JUST THAT WAS REALLY THE ONLY REASON WE PUT IT ON HERE IS DISCUSSION TO BRING AWARENESS. AND THEN OF COURSE WE HAD THE THING EARLIER TODAY. SO YOU SAID A LOT OF THE GOOD THINGS DURING THAT TIME. SO I DON'T WANT TO REHASH THAT. THANK YOU FOR THAT. I JUST WANT TO SAY ALSO THANK YOU FOR MAKING SURE THAT OUR PARKS AND OUR FACILITIES ARE NOT OVERDECORATED. BUT I THINK, YOU KNOW, IN THE SPIRIT OF I CAN'T TAKE CREDIT FOR THIS, I WELL, THANK YOU ALSO. YOU MENTIONED SOMETHING ABOUT, OH, THE FACT THAT COUNCIL, THIS IS A CITY SPONSORED EVENT. THEY'RE USUALLY COUNCIL PARTICIPATES IN CHRISTMAS AND THE 4TH OF JULY SO THAT THE NEW MEMBERS WOULD KNOW THAT THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE A PART OF THIS PARADE. ABSOLUTELY. OKAY.
I HOPE YOU ALL CAN JOIN US. THANK YOU, MISTER YOUNG. YEAH, JUST TWO POINTS TO ADD ACTUALLY.
ONE IS CHAD ALLUDED TO IT IS OBVIOUSLY WITH THE PIER CONSTRUCTION, WE HAVE TO DECIDE EXACTLY WHERE THAT IS GOING TO BE LOCATED. ONCE WE HAVE THE COORDINATION AND THE BARGE AND WITH THE CONTRACTOR, YOU KNOW, THE FIREWORKS COMPANY WILL WILL HAVE THAT MORE SPECIFIC. THE INITIAL THOUGHT IS NOTHING, KEEPING IT STILL SOUTH OF CENTRAL, BUT THE EXACT LOCATION WILL DEPEND ON EXACTLY HOW THAT FOOTPRINT WORKS OUT. SO I DIDN'T WANT YOU TO THINK IT'S SOMETHING WE'RE TRYING TRYING TO KEEP SECRET. IT'S A MATTER OF MAKING SURE WHAT'S THE BEST WAY TO FACILITATE THAT. AND THEN I DO HAVE JUST ONE STATEMENT TO MAKE, BECAUSE I WANT TO PUT IT ON THE RECORD AS A AS A THANK YOU TO THE COUNTY WHEN MISS PATTERSON REACHED OUT TO ME. AND IF YOU DISAGREE WITH MY ASSESSMENT, YOU'RE WELCOME TO CORRECT ME AND I'LL TELL HER AS SUCH. BUT WHEN MISS MISS PATTERSON REACHED OUT TO ME AND TALKED ABOUT A JOINT SESSION, SHE ALSO TALKED ABOUT POOLING OUR FUNDS FOR THE PURPOSE OF A JULY 4TH HERE IN NAPLES IN HONOR OF THE 250 THAT SAID TO HER, I SAID, YOU KNOW, I'M SURE YOU KNOW, I'LL BRING THE JOINT SHOP IMMEDIATELY. I SAID, BUT I WANT TO HAVE INTERNAL DISCUSSIONS. MY JUMPING OFF POINT ON THAT IS IT IS THE 200TH ANNIVERSARY. IT IT'S BETTER IF YOU HAD ALL OF THE COUNTY RESOURCES AND HOURS IN ONE AREA, BUT WE ALSO HAVE A PIER UNDER CONSTRUCTION. WE'RE MOVING THE LOCATION AND THERE'S JUST SO MANY THINGS THAT I DON'T THINK THAT THIS IS THE YEAR TO, TO HAVING DISCUSSED THAT. BUT IN FAIRNESS TO YOU, I NEEDED TO AT LEAST LET YOU KNOW THAT THAT I DID SAY THAT. AND IF, IF ANY OF YOU WANTED TO, TO, TO PROPOSE, YOU KNOW, A DIFFERENTLY THAT THAT JOINING THE RESOURCES AND MAKING ONE EVENT HERE IN THE CITY OF NAPLES. BUT I DID WANT TO AT LEAST FULL DISCLOSE THAT TO YOU, BECAUSE I THINK WE HAVE A NUMBER OF OTHER FACTORS, GIVEN THE THE 250 SCENARIO, THAT THAT MAKES IT PALATABLE TO KEEP THEM AS SEPARATE FUNCTIONS. BUT I JUST WANTED TO SAY THOSE TWO THINGS FOR YOUR ON FOR YOUR BENEFIT. QUESTIONS, COMMENTS. VICE MAYOR, AWESOME TO COMBINE AND HAVE ONE HUGE CELEBRATION.
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I JUST, IT JUST DOESN'T SEEM PRACTICAL WITH PARKING ISSUES, CONSTRUCTION ISSUES. SO WILL THE COUNTY STILL HAVE A SEPARATE FIREWORKS? YOU KNOW, THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING IS THEY'RE GOING TO CONTINUE WITH THEIRS AND EVERYTHING, JUST NOT COMBINING THEM INTO ONE EVENT.OKAY. YEAH, I'D LOVE TO HAVE IT TOGETHER. I JUST DON'T THINK IT'S PRACTICAL THIS YEAR.
KRAMER. YEAH, I'LL JUST ECHO THAT SENTIMENT. WE WERE TORE UP DOWNTOWN. AS LONG AS THAT STORMWATER OUTFALLS GOING AND PLUS THE PIER, IT'S JUST DOESN'T WORK. AND I THINK KUDOS TO AMY PATTERSON. SHE'S FANTASTIC. I LOVE HER HEART. JUST TIMING ISN'T GREAT. BUT THERE. THE DRONE SHOW OUT AT THE PARADISE SPORTS COMPLEX IS UNBELIEVABLE. YOU'RE NOT MISSING A BEAT IF YOU GET TO SEE THAT. IT'S INCREDIBLE. COULD COMMENT THAT IT IS. SO ANY FURTHER COMMENTS ON 4TH OF JULY? JUST AGAIN, THANK YOU. WHOEVER MENTIONED THE VICE MAYOR ABOUT THE CONSTRUCTION THAT WE MAYBE HAVE SPECIAL FORCES IN THAT AREA, MAKING SURE THAT FOR SOME REASON PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE THAT IT'S CONSTRUCTION AND THEY HAVE NO BUSINESS BEING IN THAT AREA. THAT'D BE GREAT WITH THAT. NEXT. SO THAT'S KIND OF CONCLUDES THAT. SO IF IF YOU DON'T, IF THERE'S NO OTHER QUESTIONS, I MAY GET A APPROVAL FOR THOSE TWO EVENTS WOULD BE GREAT. I, I'D LIKE TO MOVE TO APPROVE BOTH THEM BOTH TOGETHER.
FIREWORKS. DO YOU WANT ME? OKAY, SO FIREWORKS WILL GO THROUGH JUST TO SO THAT. YEAH. SO THIS WILL BE THE FIREWORKS WILL BE AROUND 9:00. SO WE'LL DO SET UP AND EVERYTHING WITH THAT THROUGHOUT THE DAY WHILE WE'RE STILL DOING THE THE PARADE. SO THAT KIND OF GOES HAND IN HAND.
WE ESTIMATED ATTENDANCE TO THAT OBVIOUSLY RUNS UP INTO THE AROUND 20,000. BUT THAT'S BEACH WIDE. SO THAT'S FROM NORTH TO SOUTH. AND THEN THAT'S REALLY IT. WE TALKED ABOUT WHAT WE WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO WITH THE BARGE. AND ONCE WE DETERMINE THAT, WE'LL MAKE THAT KNOWN.
DIDN'T DIDN'T WE MAKE REFERENCE TO THAT WE WERE GOING TO CONTINUE CONSIDER THE READING OF THE DECLARATION ON THE EIGHTH AS PART OF OUR EVENTS, AND THEREFORE THE AMPLIFIED SOUND WILL BE PREVIOUSLY AUTHORIZED. YES, HE ALWAYS REMEMBERS YOU SAID IT EARLIER.
SO YES, WE'RE GOING TO BE WE HAVE A AS PART OF THE PROGRAM, THERE'S GOING TO BE A READING BY THE DAUGHTERS OF THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION AT CITY HALL OUT LOUD. SO I WOULD ACTUALLY LIKE TO ADD IN YOUR MOTION WHEN YOU APPROVE THIS, TO APPROVE THE. THE READING OF THE THE CONSTITUTION OR ON THE. YEAH, I THINK IT WAS DECLARATION. AND I WAS LIKE, NO, NO, THAT'S NOT RIGHT. THEY'RE GOING TO READ THAT BIG DOCUMENT. THE. YES. IF WE CAN GET THAT APPROVAL, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT'S TIED IN TO THAT BECAUSE IT'S KIND OF A. IT'S ASSOCIATED.
BUT IT'S STILL A SEPARATE LITTLE CAVEAT. YES, PART OF THE ON JULY 8TH AT 6:00. YES. IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. MOTION MUST BE SEPARATE. NO. ONE FOR THE 4TH OF JULY. YES.
IT'S THE 4TH OF JULY EVENT WITH THREE DIFFERENT EVENTS INCLUDED. I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THESE THREE 4TH OF JULY EVENTS, THE FIREWORKS, THE PARADE, AND THE READING OF THE DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE ON THE EIGHTH. MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER KRAMER IN A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER PENMAN. MADAM CLERK, PLEASE PULL THE COUNCIL. COUNCILMEMBER PENMAN. YES. COUNCILMEMBER SCHULTZ. YES. COUNCILMEMBER. YES. COUNCILMEMBER BARTON. YES. VICE MAYOR BLANKENSHIP. YES.
COUNCILMEMBER KRAMER. YES. MAYOR HARTMAN. YES. THANK YOU. COUNCIL PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
[13.D) After-Action Report on the 2026 Cars on 5th Event in Downtown Naples and Cambier Park. ]
MOVING TO ITEM 13 D. YES. YES, MA'AM. AGAIN, GOOD MORNING, CHAD MERRITT, COMMUNITY SERVICE DIRECTOR. THIS IS AN ITEM WE BROUGHT TO YOU ALL BECAUSE WE HAD A LENGTHY DISCUSSION THE LAST TIME THAT THIS EVENT WAS APPROVED, AND THERE WAS SOME STIPULATIONS THAT WE GAVE THE THE ORGANIZERS, AND WE WANTED TO HAVE AN AFTER ACTION TO LET YOU ALL KNOW HOW ALL OF THAT WENT AND WHERE WE STAND. SO FIRST OFF, EVENT WAS FEBRUARY 7TH. IT WAS 10 TO 4 WAS THE[03:05:03]
SCHEDULED TIME. IT WAS HELD IN DOWNTOWN NAPLES CAMBIER PARK AREA. ESTIMATED TOTAL ATTENDANCE AROUND 39,000. THAT WAS UTILIZED IN THE BID'S SOFTWARE THAT PINGED PEOPLE THAT HAD DEVICES. AND THEN THE SPECIAL EVENT APPLICATION WAS SUBMITTED. THAT SHOWS THE APPROVAL OF THAT. THE PURPOSE OF IT WAS TO BENEFIT HABITAT FOR HUMANITY. SPECIFICS HAVE NOT BEEN PROVIDED BY THE ORGANIZERS. I DON'T HAVE ANY DETAILS. I'LL PUT THAT IN THERE BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT STOOD. WE DON'T HAVE THAT YET. WE DID AN AFTER ACTION WITH THE ORGANIZER ON MARCH 10TH WITH STAFF. THAT WAS AT 2:00 HERE AT CITY HALL. THAT IN ATTENDANCE WAS THE NAPLES POLICE DEPARTMENT, COMMUNITY SERVICE DEPARTMENT EVENT ORGANIZER. AND WE DID. THE PURPOSE OF THAT WAS TO DISCUSS THE SUCCESSES, THE CHALLENGES CONCERNS, ANY RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE FUTURE? WHAT WORKED WELL, IT DOES INCREASE TRAFFIC, FOOT TRAFFIC TO THIS AREA, WHICH GENERATED ADDITIONAL BUSINESS FOR SOME OF THE COMPANIES ON FIFTH AVENUE.YOU'VE HEARD BEFORE THAT SOME OF THE THE COMPANIES BENEFIT. SOME OF THEM DON'T. SOME OF THEM, IT IT IMPACTS NEGATIVELY. SOME OF THEM IT IMPACTS POSITIVELY. SO AGAIN, BECAUSE OF THE SIZE OF THIS EVENT, COMMUNICATION IS AN ISSUE. AND I KNOW YOU ALL, I GOT EMAILS, I GOT CALLS NOT DURING THE EVENT BECAUSE IT WAS VERY DIFFICULT TO GET STUFF CALLS IN AND OUT, BUT IT DOES IMPACT THE CELL SERVICE. SO THERE ARE SAFETY RISKS THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH THAT. A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THE AREA ARE NOT ABLE TO MAKE CALLS OUT. SO IF THERE'S AN EMERGENCY SITUATION, THEY MAY NOT BE ABLE TO GET A CALL OUT. UNAUTHORIZED EVENTS. THERE WERE AGAIN, THIS YEAR WE HAVE TO COMBAT, AND WE'RE CONSTANTLY TRYING TO CHASE ALL OF THE POP UP EVENTS THAT HAPPEN. AND WHAT THAT DOES IS IT TAKES AWAY THE A LOT OF THE ATTENTION FROM PD ON WHAT THEY WERE. THEY'RE ASSIGNED IN CERTAIN AREAS FOR THE EVENT. THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY'RE HAVING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT'S GOING ON OVER HERE. SO THAT DOES PULL AWAY A LOT OF THE SECURITY THAT'S PLANNED FOR THE EVENT. THAT IS NOT THE ORGANIZERS FAULT DIRECTLY. SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S CLEAR. IT WAS NOT HIS FAULT THAT THAT HAPPENED, BUT IT IS ONE OF THE CONSEQUENCES OF THAT EVENT AND WHAT IT DOES. AND AND DRAWING PEOPLE IN. WE DID HAVE DAMAGE TO CAMBIER PARK, AS WE DISCUSSED IN 2025. FOR THIS PREVIOUS APPLICATION, WE MADE THE RECOMMENDATION TO MOVE IT TO PARK STREET, WHICH IS CLOSED WITH, AND THEY HAVE USE OF THAT PARKING LOT SPACE. WE'VE TRIED THAT. WE TRIED THE SOFTBALL FIELD. WE'VE WE'VE REALIZED AS A STAFF, IT DOESN'T REALLY WORK FOR THE PROGRAMING, ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY START DOING THE SETUP.
IT ON TUESDAY AND WEDNESDAY PRIOR TO. WE HAVE TO SHIFT TO SOFTBALL GROUP OVER. AND THEN WHEN THEY'RE DONE, WE HAVE TO SCRAMBLE TO TRY TO GET THE FIELD BACK IN PLAYING CONDITION SO THAT THEY CAN RESUME WITH THEIR THEIR LEAGUE. SO THIS YEAR, AGAIN, WE HAD TO ROLL THE FIELD. THEY PUT THESE GIANT CINDER BLOCKS OR LIKE CYLINDERS THAT WAY THE TENTS DOWN IN THERE. SO WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH AND REROLL IT. WE HAVE TO REPAIR GRASS. WE HAVE TO DRAG THE DIRT AND TRY TO RELEVEL ALL OF THAT. AND I KNOW AT LEAST ONE INDIVIDUAL KNOWS WHAT IT'S LIKE TRYING TO PREPARE A FIELD WHEN YOU'VE GOT JUST A GAME, IMAGINE HAVING THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE TRAMPLING ALL OVER THE FIELD. WE DID HAVE TO STOP ONE OF THE CATERERS, BECAUSE THEY WERE INTERESTED IN CUTTING THE FENCE SO THAT THEY COULD CREATE THEIR OWN PATHWAY THROUGH THE FENCE, AND LUCKILY WE HAD STAFF THERE. SO THAT WAS A THAT WAS INTERESTING. WE HAD A LARGE BOX TRUCK THAT WAS HAULING EQUIPMENT THAT CRUSHED THE SIDEWALK IN MULTIPLE PLACES. SO WE'RE HAVING TO REPAIR THE SIDEWALK AROUND THE FIELD AS WELL. SO THAT WAS ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT WE HAD. SIXTH STREET SOUTH WAS NOT USED FOR THE EXIT PLAN AS AGREED UPON BY THE ORGANIZER. THIS IS TO KEEP ALL THE CARS FROM GOING OUT. ONE AREA WHICH CREATES THAT LARGE GROUP OF PEOPLE WHEN THEY WANT TO WATCH ALL OF THESE REALLY NICE CARS LEAVE. AND THEN THAT'S WHERE THE SHOW OFF KIND OF STARTS HAPPENING. AND THEN YOU GOT CARS REVVING ENGINES AND GOING REALLY FAST THROUGH LARGE CROWDS. AND THAT'S NOT AN IDEAL SITUATION.
SO THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO UTILIZE SIXTH STREET. THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN. THAT WAS SOMETHING THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE ORGANIZER HAD AGREED UPON. THE BARRICADES WERE PLACED IN THE WRONG LOCATION AT EIGHTH STREET SOUTH IN CAMBIER WAY, INSTEAD OF BEING ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE INTERSECTION OR EXCUSE ME, THEY PLACE IT ON THE SOUTH SIDE INSTEAD OF NORTH SIDE, WHICH WAS AGREED UPON. SO. AND I'LL MAKE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS HERE IN A SECOND. WE HAD A LOT OF DRONES FLYING AROUND. I KNOW THAT'S MAY NOT BE DIRECTLY ASSOCIATED WITH THE EVENT ORGANIZER, BUT THE THEY WERE HAVING TO CHASE DRONE FLIERS AROUND TO FIGURE
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OUT WHO WAS COMING BECAUSE THEY'RE FLYING OVER CROWDS AND THAT'S NOT ALLOWED. ALSO HAD PARKING ISSUES AGAIN, WERE VERY, VERY PREVALENT. AND THEY WROTE ABOUT 186 PARKING TICKETS, WHICH IS ABOUT AS FAST AS THEY COULD WRITE THEM. THEY RAN OUT OF PARKING TICKETS AGAIN, SOME OF THE BOOKS, AND THEY HAD TO GO GET ADDITIONAL. SO THAT TAKES ADDITIONAL ATTENTION OFF OF THE SECURITY FOR THE EVENT, BECAUSE THEY'RE SPENDING TIME TRYING TO ADDRESS ALL OF THE PARKING CONCERNS. AND I DON'T I DON'T WANT TO. HE CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS THEY WERE WRITING TICKETS TO PEOPLE THAT WERE PARKED BESIDE THE NO PARKING SIGNS AND TOLD THEM THEY WERE GOING TO GET A TICKET, AND THEY SAID THAT WAS FINE AND WALKED AWAY. SO THAT'S KIND OF WHAT THEY COMBAT NOW. I HAD A LOT OF RESIDENTS THAT CAME TO ME AFTERWARDS, AND I HAD SOME EMAILS AS WELL REGARDING THAT. AND, YOU KNOW, IT JUST IT CONTINUES TO BE AN ISSUE. ANYTIME YOU HAVE AN EVENT THAT SIZE IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA, WE DON'T HAVE PARKING. THAT'S SUFFICIENT TO HELP THAT. WE THE ORGANIZER DOES PROVIDE A SHUTTLE, A SHUTTLE, BUT PEOPLE WANT TO BE RIGHT THERE AND BE ABLE TO WALK TO THEIR VEHICLE.AND THAT'S JUST THE WAY IT HAPPENS. THEY CAN'T FORCE ANYBODY TO THE SHUTTLE THEIR PARKING ILLEGALLY AND WALKING IN. WE HAD SOME ISSUES WITH STAFF ACCESS, EVEN THOUGH WE MET WITH THE ORGANIZER PRIOR TO AND SAID THAT THEY WOULD UTILIZE THEIR STAFF ID TO GET IN THE ONES THAT WERE WORKING. THE EVENT, WHICH INCLUDES THE ONES EMPTYING TRASH ALONG FIFTH AVENUE. SO THE TRASH CANS WERE OVERFLOWING BECAUSE WE COULDN'T GET IN BECAUSE THEIR SECURITY WOULDN'T ALLOW STAFF GET IN TO TO EMPTY THE TRASH AND TO ALSO MAKE SURE THAT THE LAYOUT WAS AS IT WAS PLANNED. SO THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE AGREED UPON WHEN IT WAS GIVEN TO THEM, THAT THEY WOULD HAVE EXCLUSIVE USE OF THE STREET AREA. SO THAT WAS A CHALLENGE FOR STAFF AS WELL.
THEN WE HAD THE EVENT START TIME. YOU SAW IT'S 10 TO 4 PEOPLE WERE SHOWING UP FOR THE EVENT AT 9:00 AND THEY WERE LETTING THEM IN. AND SO BEFORE EVERYTHING WAS SET UP AND PD WAS ABLE TO DETERMINE WHETHER EVERYTHING WAS SECURE, YOU HAD THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE ALREADY IN THE EVENT SPACE AT 9:00 IN THE MORNING, WHICH WAS THE HOUR BEFORE THAT. THEY ALSO, YOU KNOW, HAD SOME LIKE FIRE AND EVERYTHING HAS TO DO THE INSPECTIONS FOR THE TENT. SO NOW YOU'VE GOT PEOPLE COMING INTO THE EVENT SPACE BEFORE THEY'VE EVEN INSPECTED THE TENTS TO MAKE SURE THE TENTS ARE SAFE. EVENT SIZE. AGAIN, WE TALKED ABOUT THE EVENT SIZE. IT WAS A EXTREMELY LARGE EVENT. AGAIN, THEY CLAIMED THE ORGANIZER CLAIMS 13,600 TICKETS WERE SOLD. THERE WAS 39,000 PEOPLE IN THAT AREA TOTAL AT. SO DOES THAT MEAN IT'S AT PEAK? NOT NECESSARILY. BUT I CAN TELL YOU THERE WAS A LOT OF PEOPLE AND IT WAS SHOULDER TO SHOULDER, VERY DIFFICULT TO WALK THROUGH THERE. I HAD, AGAIN, SOME RESIDENTS THAT SHARED THEIR EXPERIENCE AND THAT WAS THE CASE. WE HAD STAFF THAT WERE KIND OF IN THE AREA AS WELL.
IT'S VERY DENSE DURING THAT EVENT, AND IF SOMETHING HAPPENS DURING IN THE MIDDLE, GETTING AN EMERGENCY VEHICLE THERE IS GOING TO BE VERY DIFFICULT TO DO, ESPECIALLY WITH THE WAY THINGS ARE SET UP. AND SO THAT'S ONE THING THAT WE ALWAYS WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE AWARE OF. WE HAD SOME DAMAGE TO THE DOWNTOWN AREA AS FAR AS THE LANDSCAPING. WHEN WE HAVE THIS EVENT, WE DO HAVE TO GO IN. THERE'S A LOT OF TRAMPLING OF THE LANDSCAPING IN THE MEDIAN AREAS. WE HAVE TO GO IN AND REPAIR THAT, AND THERE'S A LOT OF DEBRIS AND TRASH THAT WE HAVE TO PICK UP. SO THAT KIND OF PUTS US INTO WHEN WE GO THROUGH THIS AFTER ACTION. THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT WE SHARE WITH THE ORGANIZER. AND THEN WE GO THROUGH WITH SOME RECOMMENDATIONS. SO RECOMMENDATIONS, OVERALL SIZE OF THE EVENT AND ANTICIPATED ATTENDANCE MUST BE SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCED. WE'VE TRIED TO DO THAT SEVERAL YEARS NOW. IT'S A VERY POPULAR EVENT. IT'S A VERY LARGE SCALE EVENT. THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT ATTRACT DIFFERENT PEOPLE IN THERE, NOT JUST THE CARS. SO WHEN YOU START LOOKING AT THE THE SIZE AND THE LOCATION, I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU CAN PREVENT PEOPLE WITHOUT JUST EXCLUSIVELY SHUTTING THE WHOLE DOWNTOWN DOWN AND THEN TURNING AWAY PEOPLE. AND I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S A GOOD THING TO DO FOR THE BUSINESSES, BUT THAT IS THE A SOLUTION WOULD BE TO TRY TO REDUCE IT. IF THE ORGANIZER IS UNABLE TO REDUCE IT, WE WOULD RECOMMEND THAT THEY LOOK AT A DIFFERENT VENUE TO BE ABLE TO HOLD THIS EVENT IF THEY WANT TO CONTINUE TO GROW THE EVENT. NOW, I KNOW THE ORGANIZER HAS SAID MULTIPLE TIMES THAT THEY ARE NOT INTERESTED IN GROWING THE
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EVENT, BUT THE EVENT CONTINUES TO GET LARGER. THERE'S AN APPLICATION THAT'S BEEN SUBMITTED RIGHT NOW, WHICH WE'RE NOT PROCESSING ANY 2027 RIGHT NOW, BUT IT HAS BEEN SUBMITTED TO GROW THE FOOTPRINT AGAIN AND TO ALSO INCLUDE AN EXTRA EVENT, WHICH WAS DENIED THIS LAST TIME ON PARK STREET, WHICH WOULD CARRIED INTO THE NIGHT. SO THERE ARE THINGS THAT WE TALK ABOUT, BUT I DON'T KNOW DURING THIS AFTER ACTION, I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT NECESSARILY TRANSFORMS TO THE ORGANIZER. PROACTIVE COMMUNICATIONS SURROUNDING BUSINESSES THAT FOR THE UNAUTHORIZED EVENT. SO WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS TRY TO REALLY WORK WITH THE BID AND THE LOCAL BUSINESSES TO LET THEM KNOW THAT THEY CANNOT HAVE THESE UNAUTHORIZED EVENTS. IT DOES TAKE AWAY FROM THE THE ATTENTION THAT WE HAVE ALREADY FOR THE SECURITY. SO WE WILL WORK WITH MPD AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND MAKE SURE THAT WE COMMUNICATE THAT TO THE BUSINESSES, SO WE CAN TRY TO PREVENT THAT BEFORE THEY HAPPEN.WE JUST DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY'RE POPPING UP UNTIL THEY'RE KIND OF HERE. THE USE OF THE SOFTBALL FIELD, I WOULD AGAIN RECOMMEND THAT WE NOT USE THE SOFTBALL FIELD AS A EVENT VENUE. WE HAVE RELOCATED THE NAPLES OPERA, AND THAT KEPT US FROM HAVING A TON OF DAMAGE TO.
THAT. SOUNDED GREAT WHEN WE SAID, ALRIGHT, LET'S START DOING THAT. UNTIL WE STARTED GETTING MULTIPLE EVENTS. NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN WE HAD A TON OF DAMAGE DONE TO THE SOFTBALL FIELD. SO I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE PUT THE VIP AREA IF WE HAVE THIS EVENT AGAIN AND ON PARK STREET UTILIZING THE CITY'S PARKING LOT, THE EQUIPMENT AND SERVICE VEHICLES NEED TO REMAIN ON THE DESIGNATED ROADWAYS. THEY DON'T NEED TO BE DRIVING OVER TOP OF THE SIDEWALKS. WE CAN'T KEEP DAMAGING THE SIDEWALKS. AN ALTERNATE ALTERNATIVE WOULD BE FOR THEM TO CONSIDER PUTTING THE VIP COMPONENT AS EITHER A SEPARATE EVENT, OR PUT IT OUT AT THE AIRPORT WHEN THEY DO THE OTHER EVENT, AND THEN HAVE THAT AS THE VIP AND THEN DO THE ACTUAL CAR SHOW IS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC WITH NO ADDITIONAL. BECAUSE THE VIP REALLY BECOMES AN EVENT IN ITSELF. THE EVENT ORGANIZER NEEDS TO FOLLOW THE EXIT PLAN AS AGREED UPON SO THAT WE HAVE THE CARS GOING OUT THE RIGHT WAY BECAUSE PD IS. MPD IS THEIR KIND OF PLAN FOR IT TO GO A CERTAIN WAY, AND THEN WHEN IT DOESN'T, THEN IT'S KIND OF A SHUFFLE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW THEY CAN ADJUST TO THAT. THE ORGANIZER DOESN'T NEED TO PLAY. PUT ANY BARRICADES OUT UNTIL MPD HAS APPROVED THOSE. SO WHEN THEY START PUTTING THOSE OUT, THEY NEED TO HAVE SOMEBODY, A REPRESENTATIVE FROM MPD, TO ENSURE THAT BARRICADES ARE NOT PUT OUT INACCURATELY. AND THEN ANOTHER RECOMMENDATION FOR THE DRONES WOULD BE FOR THE ORGANIZER TO MAKE ANY KIND OF ANNOUNCEMENTS. AND ALSO ANY THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH THEM NEED TO BE DETERMINED OR ACTUALLY SHARED WITH DURING THE ACTUAL EVENT APPLICATION PROCESS. ANOTHER RECOMMENDATION BY STAFF WAS THE THEY NEED TO PROVIDE A COMPREHENSIVE PARKING PLAN THAT CLEARLY IDENTIFIES ALL DESIGNATED PARKING AREAS TO ENSURE THE EVENT CAN ADEQUATELY ACCOMMODATE THIS SIZE OF AN EVENT. AND IF THEY CANNOT PROVIDE THAT, IF INADEQUATE OR IF ADEQUATE PARKING CANNOT BE REASONABLY SECURED THROUGH THESE MEASURES, THE EVENT MAY NEED TO AGAIN LOOK AT A POTENTIAL DIFFERENT LOCATION WHERE THAT CAN BE HELD. THE ORGANIZER MUST CLEARLY COMMUNICATE TO ALL EVENT PERSONNEL THAT THE CITY STAFF WILL ENTER INTO THE LOCATION, THE ONES THAT ARE WORKING TO BE ABLE TO EMPTY TRASH, AND ALSO TO BE ABLE TO WORK AND MAKE SURE THAT SOME OF THESE GUIDELINES THAT WE AGREED UPON ARE BEING FOLLOWED. AND THEN THE ALSO THE ORGANIZER, LET'S SEE, I LOST MY SPOT HERE. OH, TRASH. WE WOULD, WE'D ACTUALLY RECOMMEND AT THIS POINT BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNT OF TRASH THEY NEED TO HAVE SOMEBODY IN THERE THAT CAN MANAGE THEIR TRASH, OR THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HIRE ADDITIONAL PERSONNEL TO MANAGE THE TRASH, BECAUSE EVEN WITH THE STAFF, IF THEY WERE ALLOWED TO GO IN, I'M HAVING TO PULL STAFF FROM THE BEACH TRASH. I'M HAVING TO PULL THEM FROM EMPTYING PARK TRASH TO GO IN AND EMPTY THIS AND FIGHT A CROWD. SO THAT KIND OF PUTS US A LITTLE BIT BEHIND THE EIGHT BALL ON THAT. SO IF THEY'RE NOT GOING TO MANAGE THEIR TRASH, THEY NEED TO HIRE ADDITIONAL STAFF FOR THAT. STAFF WOULD ALSO RECOMMEND A LARGER DEPOSIT BE COLLECTED FOR AN EVENT THIS SIZE. BECAUSE WHEN THINGS DON'T GO THE WAY THAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO, THEY DON'T REALLY HAVE A WHOLE LOT TO LOSE. AND WE HAVE A LOT OF RESOURCES THAT HAVE TO COME IN. ONE EXAMPLE WAS AFTER IT WAS THE EVENT WAS OVER, WHICH GOING BACK TO TRASH,
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THERE WAS TRASH EVERYWHERE. THERE WAS TRASH EVERYWHERE. ON SUNDAY, THERE WAS TRASH EVERYWHERE ON MONDAY. IT WASN'T UNTIL TUESDAY THAT THE TRASH WAS PICKED UP AND OUR STAFF WAS HAVING TO GO THROUGH THE AVENUE AND PICK IT UP, SO THIS TRASH NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED THE DAY OF THE EVENT. THEY SHOULD NOT LEAVE UNTIL THE CITY LOOKS THE WAY IT LOOKED WHEN THEY CAME IN, AND THEN STAFF WILL ALSO PROVIDE ANY KIND OF ADDITIONAL FUNDRAISING INFORMATION. SHALL WE RECEIVE IT TO YOU ALL AT THE TIME OF THE APPLICATION SO THAT YOU'RE AWARE OF OF, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE BENEFITS AND EVERYTHING OF THE EVENT WERE. SO I KNOW THAT WAS A LOT, BUT THAT IS HOW WE GO THROUGH AN AFTER ACTION. THAT'S WHAT WE DO. THIS IS INPUT FROM ALL THE DEPARTMENTS THAT WERE INVOLVED IN THIS. AND YOU KNOW, YOU CAN READ THROUGH IT. IF THERE'S ANYTHING IN PARTICULAR THAT YOU HAVE A QUESTION ON, WE'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER IT. WE HAVE A MEMBER FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HERE, A MEMBER FROM THE FIRE DEPARTMENT HERE, AND WE HAVE OURSELVES. SO I'LL KIND OF LEAVE IT AT THAT. THANK YOU. THANKS, CHAD. SO GOING BACK, THIS IS JUST FOR THE RECORD, THE CARS ON CARS ON FIFTH WITH CARS ON BAYFRONT STARTED ON BAYFRONT. IS THAT RIGHT? I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S THE EXACT ORDER OF IT. BUT I KNOW THAT. LIEUTENANT. LIEUTENANT RILEY, CAN YOU COACH ME UP? GOOD AFTERNOON, LIEUTENANT O'REILLY. NAPLES POLICE DEPARTMENT. YES, SIR. YOU'RE CORRECT. IT ORIGINALLY STARTED WITH THE FERRARI SHOW IN BAYFRONT PLACE, THEN MOVED DOWN AS IT GOT LARGER TO THIRD STREET SOUTH. THEN IT GOT LARGER AND MOVED TO FIFTH AVENUE SOUTH. THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT, AND I WOULD, I CONTEND NOW, BY THE WAY, I'M ON THE RECORD SAYING THAT WE ARE NOT AN EVENT VENUE IN THE CITY OF NAPLES, AND THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE THAT VOTE FOR ME SAY, WE DO NOT WANT THIS. SO JUST START THERE. IT WAS TROUBLED. IT TROUBLED ME THAT ON THE CHALLENGES AND CONCERNS, THERE WERE 18 ITEMS ON THAT SPECIFIC ITEMS AND THE VAST MAJORITY OF THEM AS YOU GO THROUGH. HE WENT THROUGH IT. HE SAID WE HAD ALREADY AGREED. WE HAD ALREADY TALKED ABOUT. AND YET, AND EVEN KNOWING THIS, STICK IN THE MUD, IF YOU'RE IF I'M THE EVENT ORGANIZER, KNOWING THAT I'M UP HERE, I'M THINKING WE BETTER MAKE SURE HIS THINGS TIGHT. I WILL SAY THIS KUDOS TO THEM BECAUSE THEY'VE GROWN THIS THING. IT'S MASSIVE. AND I KNOW IF I DIDN'T SIT HERE, I MAY HAVE DIFFERENT OPINIONS. IT IS AN INCREDIBLE EVENT. IF YOU LOVE CARS, THERE'S NO DOUBT. THE FACT IS, THE LARGER AN ORGANIZATION AND OUR GUYS THAT HAVE BEEN IN BUSINESS KNOW THIS, THE LARGER AN ORGANIZATION, THE MORE MANAGEABLE IT BECOMES, OR THE LARGER AN EVENT, THE MORE UNMANAGEABLE IT BECOMES. AND WE'VE GOT EVIDENCE OF THAT WITH THOSE 18 ITEMS. SO I HAVE A, I ACTUALLY HAVE A BUDDY WHO IS, OWNS A BUNCH OF CARS AND HE'S TALKING ABOUT, WELL, THERE'S NAPLES SHOULD BE FINE WITH THIS.THERE'S ONE I GO TO AT PEBBLE BEACH. AND THEN I THOUGHT, WELL, THAT'S A GREAT IDEA. LET'S FIND A GOLF COURSE TO HOST IT. YEAH, I'LL GO DO THAT. BECAUSE THE QUESTION THAT COMES BACK TO ME AND I WOULD ASK COUNCIL THIS, I CANNOT. I CAN'T ANSWER THIS. WHAT COMPELS US TO HOST THIS? IF WE HAVE A. Y'ALL CAN GIVE ME A GREAT ANSWER TO THAT. WE ARE COMPELLED TO HOST THIS EVENT BECAUSE I'M LISTENING. BUT I'M TELLING YOU, THE JUICE ISN'T WORTH THE SQUEEZE. WE SHOULD NO LONGER HAVE THIS THING HERE. THEN GO OUT TO PARADISE SPORTS COMPLEX OR FIND A GOLF COURSE.
GO OUT TO TIBURON LIKE WE DO THE PRO AM. I DON'T CARE WHERE IT IS. IT'S IT'S OUT. IT'S. AND HE CAN'T CONTROL. HE'S DONE SUCH A GOOD JOB. HE CAN'T CONTROL HOW MANY PEOPLE SHOW UP.
THERE'S JUST NO WAY. SO IT WAS AWESOME. AND GREAT AS IT IS, IT NEEDS TO BE AWESOME AND GREAT SOMEPLACE ELSE BESIDES THE CITY OF NAPLES. THAT'S MY $0.02, FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH. OKAY. THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER SCHULTZ. I COULDN'T AGREE WITH YOU MORE. THE GENESIS OF THIS WAS THE FERRARI CLUB. IN BEGINNING IT THAT WAY. IT'S NOW GROWN. THE CHARITY THAT WAS BENEFITING FROM IT, THE SAINT MATTHEWS HOUSES, AS THEY'RE DOWN TO GETTING ONLY LIKE 400 TO $450,000 NET OUT OF THE ALMOST 3.5 MILLION THAT THIS GENERATES. SO THEY SAY THEY SPEND A LOT MORE TIME THROUGHOUT THE YEAR, THEIR MANPOWER TO SUPPORT THIS ENDEAVOR. BUT NOW THE JUICE ISN'T WORTH THE SQUEEZE, SO THEY'RE NOT BENEFITING FROM IT. THE FERRARI CLUB NO LONGER SPONSORS IT. IT WAS AN INDIVIDUAL WHO LIVED IN NAPLES, NOW NO LONGER LIVES IN NAPLES, IS BEING RUN BY BY SOMEBODY OUTSIDE OF THE CITY. AND THE BENEFITS OF IT SEEM TO HAVE GONE MORE TO THE VENDOR. AND WHILE THEY MONOPOLIZE THE CITY'S AND THE CITY SIDEWALKS
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AND STREET ON FIFTH AND ALL THE ANCILLARY PARKING AND ALL THE AMAZING THINGS THAT HAPPEN, IT JUST SEEMS THAT THIS HAS GONE A DIFFERENT COURSE. NOW I AM A CAR GUY. I WENT OUT TO CONCOURS D'ELEGANCE IN MONTEREY PENINSULA AT PEBBLE BEACH. PHENOMENAL EVENT AT THE RIGHT LOCATION AT THE RIGHT TIME. THIS NO LONGER FITS IN MY JUDGMENT. AND IT GOES BACK TO PHILOSOPHICALLY MY VIEW THAT NAPLES RESIDENTS SHOULD BE THE ONES PICKING AND SPONSORING AND PULLING APPLICATIONS FOR EVENTS IN NAPLES, NOT OUTSIDE FOLKS. SO FROM A VARIETY OF VIEWPOINTS, YOU CAN TAKE IT, SENATOR MERCADO, YOU CAN TAKE IT, SEND IT OUT TO THE PARADISE FACILITY.THERE'S A LOT OF PLACES TO HAVE IT WITHOUT TYING UP OUR CITY'S MOST PROMINENT STREET. AND RIGHT AROUND IT, THE PARKING IS ABYSMAL. WHO GETS THE RESOURCES FROM THE PARKING? WE DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT GOES. AND YET THEY'RE TYING UP THE CITY. WE HAVE TO DO SO MANY THINGS AS A CITY, THE PD. JUST THE PREPARATION FOR THIS AND THE MESS, THE PURE MESS IT CREATES, IT'S A VICTIM OF ITS OWN SUCCESS. SO LET THEM FIND A BIGGER, BETTER VENUE. MAYBE A GERMANE BUT BUT IT'S NOT OUR JOB TO LOCATE A NEW A NEW SPOT FOR THEM. IT'S OUR JOB TO TRY TO PROTECT OUR RESIDENTS AND THE VALUE OF THE CITY THAT WE HAVE WITHOUT BEING OVERRUN BY THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE. AND TO THIS DAY, GIVEN THAT THE CHARITY IT WAS BENEFITING, THEY DON'T WANT TO PLAY ANYMORE. THE OWNERSHIP OF IT IS GONE. OUTSIDE RESIDENTS FROM THE CITY.
I CAN'T THINK OF A SINGLE GOOD REASON FOR THIS TO CONTINUE. AND LIKE I SAID, I'M A CAR GUY AND MY WIFE'S, SHE HAD HER FERRARI AND SHE THAT'S HER KIND OF THING. BUT THERE ARE CAR TRANSACTIONS GOING ON THERE. WHAT DO WE GET FOR THE SALE OF THESE HIGH END AUTOMOBILES? WE GET NOTHING. AND SO I, I LOVE FAST CARS. I LOVE GOT MY RACING LICENSE, BUT I SIMPLY CAN'T SEE THIS THING MAKING ANY SENSE ANY LONGER FOR, FOR OUR CITY. SO I, I, THERE'S NOT A SINGLE EXAMPLE, I THINK THAT THIS MAKES ANY SENSE FOR US TO CONTINUE. SO I'M IN TOTAL AGREEMENT WITH YOU ON THAT, COUNCILMAN KRAMER. I HAVE PENMAN AND THEN KRUL. WELL STATED, MR. SCHULTZ, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. CHAD. DO WE HAVE A LIKE AN ESTIMATE OF WHAT HAS COST THE CITY AS FAR AS DAMAGES AND ALL THAT AND VERSUS APPLICATION FEES THAT WERE PAID? AND ARE WE IN THE RED HERE ON THIS EVENT? LIKE I CAN'T SPEAK ON BEHALF OF MPD'S COST. I CAN LET THEM SPEAK ON THAT. WE'RE STILL GETTING ESTIMATES ON THE DAMAGE THAT WAS. I DON'T HAVE THE TOTAL COST OF THAT AT THIS TIME, BUT I CAN SHARE THAT ONCE I GET IT. SO BASICALLY WE'RE IN THE RED ON THIS EVENT, YOU KNOW, AND ALL SAID AND DONE. I DON'T KNOW IF I WANT TO SAY IT DIRECTLY THAT BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF INDIRECT COST. AGAIN, WHEN YOU START TALKING ABOUT HAVING TO GO THROUGH AND CLEAN UP AND USE STAFF TIME, YOU KNOW, I HAD STAFF THERE. THEY GO TO THESE EVENTS IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE THEY COMPLY WITH THE PERMIT. A LOT OF ESPECIALLY THE ONES THIS LARGE. SO YOU'VE GOT COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT. SO WE DON'T NECESSARILY GET. SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THEM RENTING THAT OR NOT RENTING WHEN THEY USE THE AVENUE, THERE'S NOT A RENTAL PRICE FOR THAT. SO IT'S A, IT'S A HECK OF A DEAL FOR A LARGE SCALE EVENT AS THEY GET TO GO IN THERE. AND THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE HAVE TO CONTEND. BUT I KNOW PD HAS THEIR OWN COST, AND I'LL LET YOU KIND OF TALK ON THAT. SO WE HAD OVER 20 OFFICERS ASSIGNED TO THE EVENT. I THINK IT'S FAIR TO SAY THE EVENT ORGANIZERS PAID FOR ALL OF THOSE OFFICERS, INCLUDING THREE DEDICATED JUST TO PARKING ENFORCEMENT. SO WE DIDN'T INCUR ANY COSTS THERE. DID WE LIKELY HAVE SOME LOST REVENUE BECAUSE OUR PARKING ENFORCEMENT APPLICATION DOESN'T WORK ON OUR PHONES FOR THE BEACH ENDS, LIKELY WE, BECAUSE OF THE OVERCROWDING ISSUE, COULD NOT GET ON OUR PHONE SYSTEM TO ISSUE ANY PARKING CITATIONS ALONG THE BEACH ENDS. SO FOR APPROXIMATELY 4 TO 5 HOURS WE HAD NO PARKING ENFORCEMENT ON THE BEACHES, BUT THAT WOULD BE AN INDIRECT COST I WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO QUANTIFY. IS IT IN YOUR OPINION THAT THIS IS BECOMING A SAFETY RISK, GIVEN THE SIZE THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY EXPERIENCED? YES, SIR. OUR OUR OPINION THAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS THE EVENT IS OVERCROWDED. IT HAS BEEN OVERCROWDED FOR SEVERAL YEARS.
I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT CHALLENGE IS SURMOUNTABLE AS AS MR. MERRETT MENTIONED, AT DIFFERENT TIMES DURING THE EVENT, IT WAS LITERALLY SHOULDER TO SHOULDER. IF THERE HAD BEEN AN EMERGENCY EVENT, WHETHER SOMEONE FELL DOWN AND GOT HURT, SOMEONE PERCEIVED AN
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EMERGENCY OR AN ATTACK, FIRST RESPONDERS WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO GET THERE UNTIL THE CROWDS LEFT THE AREA. TO BEGIN WITH, WE ACTUALLY HAVE TO CURTAIL OUR PATROLLING THROUGH THE EVENT AND PATROL THE PERIPHERY AND UP ON THE SECOND FLOORS OF BUILDINGS TO SEE THE EVENT, BECAUSE IT'S SO CROWDED. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY FURTHER COMMENTS, MADAM MAYOR? YES, FOR THIS PARTICULAR ITEM, OBVIOUSLY, WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR ACTION TODAY. AS MR. MERRITT INDICATED, THE 2027 PERMIT IS PENDING. AND ONE OF THE THINGS WE DIDN'T WANT TO DO IN PREVIOUS YEARS, SOMETIMES IT WAS SEVERAL MONTHS BEFORE WE GOT BACK TO YOU ON AN AFTER ACTION. WE WANTED TO DO IT WHILE IT WAS STILL RELATIVELY FRESH, AND BEFORE WE EVER INTRODUCED THE NEXT APPLICATION. SO I DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT, MAYBE EVEN INDIVIDUALLY BEFORE, BEFORE THAT APPLICATION IS IF YOU HAVE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS TO WORK WITH STAFF AND, YOU KNOW, ASK ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS THAT MAY NOT HAVE ALREADY BEEN COVERED. BUT ULTIMATELY TODAY IT IS IT IS REPORTING THE THE AFTER ACTION INFORMATION TO YOU AND INFORMING YOU THAT THERE WILL BE ANOTHER APPLICATION COMING AS YOU BEGIN TO CONTEMPLATE WHAT THAT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE. SO NOW, I'M NOT TRYING TO DISTRACT YOU FROM SAYING ANYTHING OR TAKING AN ACTION. I WAS ONLY LETTING YOU KNOW THE EXPECTATIONS FOR TODAY. THANK YOU. YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW I HAVE THREE PEOPLE WHO SAY THEY WANT TO ELIMINATE THIS EVENT. AND IF YOU WANT FEEDBACK, I CAN GIVE FEEDBACK THAT THIS EVENT HAS EXPANDED FAR BEYOND ITS FOOTPRINT. SAFETY IS A CONCERN, AND I DO KNOW WE HAVE REPEATEDLY ASKED FOR THEM TO MAKE THAT FOOTPRINT SMALLER. AND UNFORTUNATELY, IT GETS LARGER. THINGS LIKE GARBAGE.AND, YOU KNOW, YOU MENTIONED A FEW THINGS THAT THE BARRICADES AND THE TIME, YOU KNOW, 9:00, YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE TECHNICAL ISSUES I THINK WE COULD DEAL WITH. BUT IF THOSE AREN'T SPELLED OUT COMPLETELY AND CLEARLY, AND WE'RE FACED WITH THIS KIND OF AFTERMATH, IT'S UNACCEPTABLE FOR, I BELIEVE, THE PARKING. YES. THE REASON I WAS ADVOCATING FOR THAT TO BE A ALMOST A ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION, AND I'M NOT TRYING TO CUT YOU OFF, MA'AM, BUT WE DID HAVE A HARD BREAK AT 1215. AND SO WE CAN EITHER COME BACK AND FINISH IT, WHICH IS PERFECTLY FINE.
BUT I DO THINK WE NEED TO RECESS TO FOR THAT PURPOSE. OKAY. I DON'T KNOW IF WE NEED A MOTION, BUT I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS THIS BECAUSE I THINK WE NEED CLOSURE FOR THE WHOEVER'S RUNNING THIS THING, BECAUSE HE'S GOT TO GET GOING ON HIS NECK WHERE HE'S GOING TO DO IT NEXT. AND IF WE COULD FINISH IT LATER AND ONE WAY OR THE OTHER, TELL HIM THAT I THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE ONLY FAIR. OH, ABSOLUTELY. SO SO IF WE CAN'T DO THAT RIGHT NOW, I KNOW WE HAVE TO LEAVE. WE'RE ALREADY LATE. MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE WE TAKE A LUNCH BREAK AT THIS TIME, AND THEN WE RETURN AT 1:00. HAD A GOOD TIME FRAME? YEAH, I WOULD ESTIMATE AN HOUR, MA'AM. GIVE OR TAKE. OKAY, SO WE'LL SAY 115. YES, MA'AM. WE'LL RETURN BACK AND CONTINUE WITH THIS ITEM AND DISCUSSIONS. AND THE NEXT ITEM THAT'S ON THERE IN CORRESPONDENCE. SO WITH THAT WE WILL I DON'T KNOW IF I MENTIONED THIS EARLIER, BUT THE DISCUSSION ON MICRO TRANSIT PROBABLY SHOULD TAKE PLACE WHEN MATTHEW COMES BACK. SO THAT ONE WILL BE MOVED AS WELL. YEAH. MR. MCCONNELL DID TELL ME HE DID NOT HAVE A LEGAL POINT OF VIEW TO BE ABLE TO DISCUSS THAT, BUT WE DO HAVE STAFF HERE THAT CAN HAVE THAT DISCUSSION. BUT IF WE DETERMINE THAT THAT'S NOT SOMETHING WE WANT TO TO CONTINUE, WE CAN TAKE WHEN WE GET TO THAT ITEM, WE CAN CONTINUE IT. I WANT TO LET YOU KNOW. OH, YES. THANK YOU. OKAY. AND WITH THAT, WE WILL BE GOING TO A LUNCH RECESS, OKAY. COUNCIL, WE HAVE BEEN GRANTED AN OPPORTUNITY BY THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE TO HAVE A VIRTUAL MEETING TO DISCUSS OUR POINT OF VIEW ON THE SENATE BILL 4405, WHICH HAS BEEN DELIVERED TO THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE.
UNFORTUNATELY, THE REQUEST WAS THAT ONLY ONE MEMBER OF COUNCIL WOULD BE PRESENT. AND TO
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CLARIFY, WHEN DISCUSSING IT WITH MR. YOUNG, I DID SAY I THOUGHT THAT ALL OF COUNCIL SHOULD BE THERE, EVEN IF THERE WASN'T A CONVERSATION. AT LEAST WE WERE IN UNITY OF A MESSAGE AND THE MESSAGE WOULD BE CLEARLY WHAT WE STATED IN THE LETTER THAT WAS SENT TO THE GOVERNOR ON THE REASONS WHY WE ARE OPPOSED TO SENATE BILL 4405 BEING. APPROVED OR NOT VETOED BY THE GOVERNOR. THE INTENTION WOULD BE THAT MR. YOUNG WOULD MAKE SURE THOSE POINTS THAT WE ALL AGREED ON WOULD BE GIVEN TO THE GOVERNOR'S REPRESENTATIVE, AND THAT HE WOULD SPEAK DIRECTLY TO WHAT WE HAD A CONSENSUS ON IN PRESENTING TO THE GOVERNOR. IF THERE ARE OTHER ITEMS OR SOMETHING THAT YOU WANT TO SHARE THAT SHOULD BE SPOKEN ABOUT, THEN I'LL TAKE IT AT THIS TIME. KRAMER. YEAH, VERY QUICKLY. WHEN WE'RE SHORT ON TIME, I THE IMPETUS FOR THIS THING, THE WHIPLASH IS BECAUSE OF DECISION. THIS IS FROM THE PEOPLE WHO CREATED 4005 IS BASED UPON DECISIONS THAT THE PREVIOUS COUNCIL MADE. AND WITH THAT IN MIND, I THINK THAT WOULD PRECLUDE ANYONE FROM THE PREVIOUS COUNCIL FROM GOING IN THERE. I WOULD SUGGEST THAT THE BEST PERSON WHO HE WASN'T ON THE PREVIOUS COUNCIL, BUT HE HAS A HISTORY BECAUSE HE'S BEEN ON COUNCIL BEFORE AND HE'S AND HE KNOWS THIS ISSUE INSIDE AND OUT WOULD BE THE VICE MAYOR TO GO AND ALSO SPEAK. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE A VOICE THERE. SO I WOULD I WOULD LIKE CONSENSUS THAT THE VICE MAYOR COULD ATTEND THIS AND THAT HE WOULD SPEAK FOR ALL OF US. AND AND HOPEFULLY THAT WILL GIVE US A FRESH, A FRESH VOICE THAT ALSO HAS AUTHORITY AND HISTORY.I'M OKAY WITH THAT. I THINK YOU SHOULD HAVE THE LEADERSHIP OF COUNCIL AND MAYBE BOTH OF THEM GO. I MEAN, I MEAN, ONE PERSON. THOSE ARE THE CONDITIONS. NEEDS SHOULD BE IN THERE. YOU HAVE TO ANNOUNCE WHEN YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE MORE THAN ONE COUNCIL PERSON IN A MEETING. AND WE HAVE TO WAIT ONE SECOND BECAUSE WE HAVE A TIME FRAME ISSUE HERE. I FIND THAT INSULTING BECAUSE, QUITE FRANKLY, IT WASN'T THE PREVIOUS COUNCIL IN THEIR DECISIONS THAT WERE MADE. WAIT, I HAVE ONE. I HEARD SCHULTZ AND AND KRAMER AND BARTON MAKE THE CLAIM THAT I SHOULD NOT BE THERE AND IT SHOULD BE THE VICE MAYOR. SO WITH THAT, WE HAVE WE HAVE THAT TIME. IT'S 1227. AND WITH THAT, WE NEED TO GO INTO ADJOURN. AND MR. YOUNG AND MR. DICKMAN AND THE VICE MAYOR WILL OKAY, WE'RE BACK FROM OUR LUNCH BREAK AND WE'RE CONTINUING ON WITH ITEM 13 D.
WE ARE AT THE POINT OF GIVING DIRECTION TO STAFF IN REFERENCE TO THE FOLLOW UP ON THE CARS ON FIFTH. SO I WAS GIVING MY COMMENTS. NOT SURE WHERE I LEFT OFF, BUT I'LL CHECK MY NOTES.
WAS THERE SOMEONE ELSE IN THE QUEUE THAT WANTED TO SPEAK THAT HAS NOT SPOKEN ABOUT THE EVENT? I JUST HAVE A QUESTION. YES SIR. I DON'T KNOW WHO GETS THIS. CAN WE TAKE. WE CAN'T TAKE ACTION ON THIS, I DON'T THINK. CAN WE? NO, NO, NO, SIR. THIS IS JUST AN AFTER ACTION REPORT AND WANTED YOU TO HAVE LONG, YOU KNOW, THINGS TO THINK ABOUT. IF YOU HAVE FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS, PROVIDE YOU WITH INFORMATION LEADING UP TO. IF. SINCE WE KNOW THAT THERE'S AN APPLICATION PENDING, WHAT WOULD EVENTUALLY BE PART OF YOUR DIALOG WHEN IT'S ON YOUR AGENDA? THAT'S THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT. THANK YOU. WELL, WE'RE GOING TO RIGHT NOW, ANYTHING THAT IS RELATED TO CAMBIER PARK, WE'RE HOLDING IN ABEYANCE TILL WE HAVE THE SECOND PART OF THE SPECIAL EVENTS DISCUSSION. IF YOU REMEMBER, WE HAD SECURITY AND IN SOME OTHER PARTS OF IT, WE'RE COMING BACK TO YOU ON APRIL 15TH WITH ADDITIONAL SECURITY. THEN WE'LL. I BELIEVE THE MEETING IS SET FOR ITS MAY 6TH OR MAY 20TH, I BELIEVE, TO COME BACK TO YOU TO GET CONSENT TO TALK ABOUT THE REST OF THE SIZE OF EVENTS AND OTHER THINGS THAT WE KIND OF LEFT FOR FOLLOW UP MEETING, AND THEN WE WOULD BE MAKING A DECISION THEN. BUT ANYTHING IN CANBERRA AT THE MOMENT, GIVEN THOSE PENDING DECISIONS, WE'VE JUST KIND OF TABLED FOR JUST FOR 27 AT THE MOMENT, NOT ANYTHING IN 26, BUT WE'RE TABLING 27 UNTIL WE GET TO THAT POINT. OKAY. THANK YOU.
SO THIS IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE FEEDBACK AND DIRECTION TO STAFF. SO WERE THERE ANY FURTHER COMMENTS OF THOSE WHO DID NOT HAVE A CHANCE? BLANKENSHIP. NOTHING NEW TO SAY.
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I JUST AGREE WITH WHAT ALMOST EVERYBODY HAS SAID. IT JUST SEEMS IT'S GOTTEN TOO BIG FOR THE CITY WITH ALL THE PROBLEMS THAT IT'S CAUSED. AND WITH THAT GROWTH, IT JUST SEEMS LIKE IT WOULD BE BETTER PLACED TO HAVE A HOME SOMEWHERE ELSE. OKAY, NO FURTHER. MINE WERE JUST DIRECTIVES. WHEN YOU'RE FOLLOWING UP AND I AGREE WITH YOUR YOUR STATEMENTS OF CONCERN, AND AGAIN, YOU WOULD REPEATEDLY, AFTER THE SEVERAL TIMES OF ASKING FOR THIS TO BE A SMALLER FOOTPRINT, THERE'D HAVE TO BE MORE DEFINITIVE. NOT YES, WE'LL TRY. IF YOU'RE GOING TO GO BACK TO THEM AND GIVE THEM THE FEEDBACK FROM COUNCIL. YES, MA'AM. SO, YOU KNOW, FOR US, WE TRY TO COMMUNICATE TO THESE ORGANIZERS AS WE GO THROUGH THE PROCESS. OUR GOAL WOULD BE WE HAD AFTER ACTION HE HEARD FROM STAFF. SO I WOULD SHARE WITH THEM THAT WE DID TAKE THE AFTER ACTION TO CITY COUNCIL. AND THIS IS KIND OF WHERE HIS STANCE IS. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, ULTIMATELY THEY HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION ON HOW THEY WANT TO MOVE FORWARD IF THEY WANT TO CONTINUE WITH THEIR APPLICATION. ONCE WE SUBMIT THE APPLICATION, WE'LL CONTINUE WITH THAT. IF HE WANTS TO MAKE OTHER PLANS, THEN AT LEAST HE HAS A LITTLE BIT OF TIME TO MAKE THOSE OTHER PLANS.IF HE FEELS HE SHOULD DO THAT. BUT THAT WAS THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE'RE AT. AND, AND I WANT TO ADD THAT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS EVENT, I DON'T THINK IT'S ANYTHING IN PARTICULAR THAT THE EVENT ITSELF, THAT IT'S JUST IT IS SO LARGE AND I DON'T EVER SEE THIS BEING ABLE TO BE SCALED BACK BECAUSE I THINK IT WILL TAKE AWAY FROM THEIR GOALS AND THEIR MISSION. AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE WE STAND AT NOW. SO I JUST WANTED TO ADD THAT. THANK YOU. OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE FOR 13 D? THAT'S ALL I HAVE. OKAY, THEN THAT CONCLUDES 13 D TAKING US TO. THANK YOU VERY
[13.E) Discussion item regarding Microtransit. ]
MUCH TO ITEM 13 E AND THIS WAS MR. MCCONNELL WANTED TO GET A CONFIRMATION OF OUR DECISION THAT WE HAVE MADE ON MICRO TRANSIT. HE WAS VERY CLEAR, THOUGH, THAT HE HAD NOT DEBRIEFED ANY OTHER OF OF HIS STAFF OR ATTORNEYS TO BE ABLE TO CARRY THIS FORWARD. SO ONCE AGAIN, THIS WILL BE POSTPONED AND WE'LL HAVE THAT CONVERSATION AT ANOTHER TIME.SO SOONER THAN LATER, BECAUSE WE DO HAVE OPERATIONS HAPPENING ON THE STREETS AND WE NEED TO CLARIFY THIS, WE HAVE THE RESPONSIBILITY TO CLARIFY THIS. SO THAT CONCLUDES 13 E GOING TO 14. THERE ARE NONE. OH. OH SORRY. WE DO HAVE TWO ADD ONS TWO ITEMS. YES. WE HAVE 13 OR.
13 F AND 13 G. THERE ARE TWO TWO DIFFERENT EXECUTIVE SESSIONS. YES. SO MR. DICKMAN.
YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU. THE FIRST ONE IS THIS IS 13 F. THIS IS AN ANNOUNCEMENT OF AN EXECUTIVE SESSION PERTAINING TO FLORIDA STATUTE. 286 011 SUBPARAGRAPH EIGHT THE TO HOLD AN EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR THE PURPOSE OF DISCUSSING SETTLEMENT NEGOTIATIONS AND STRATEGY RELATED LITIGATION EXPENDITURES. THE CITY ATTORNEY IS ANNOUNCING HIS REQUEST FOR AN EXECUTIVE SESSION CLOSED TO THE PUBLIC FOR THE PURPOSE OF SEEKING ADVICE CONCERNING SETTLEMENT NEGOTIATIONS OR STRATEGY RELATED TO LITIGATION EXPENDITURES ASSOCIATED WITH THE LITIGATION STYLED BRUNER. GREG BRUNER VERSUS CITY OF NAPLES OFFICE OF THE JUDGES OF COMPENSATION CLAIMS. OH J CC CASE NUMBER 25 029649JAW ON APRIL 15TH, 2026 AT APPROXIMATELY 12:30 P.M. IN THE CITY CITY'S CONFERENCE ROOM ON THE SECOND FLOOR OF CITY HALL.
THE EXECUTIVE SESSION IS EXPECTED TO LAST APPROXIMATELY ONE HOUR. THE ENTIRE SESSION SHALL BE RECORDED BY A CERTIFIED COURT REPORTER. THE REPORTER SHALL RECORD THE TIMES OF COMMENCEMENT AND TERMINATION OF THE SESSION. ALL DISCUSSION AND PROCEEDINGS. THE NAMES OF ALL THE PERSONS PRESENT AT THE TIME. THE NAMES OF ALL PERSONS SPEAKING. NO PORTION OF THE SESSION WILL BE OFF THE RECORD, THE COURT REPORTERS NOTES SHALL BE FULLY TRANSCRIBED AND FILED WITH THE CITY CLERK WITHIN A REASONABLE TIME AFTER THE MEETING. THE CITY COUNCIL WILL
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NOT TAKE ACTION DURING THE EXECUTIVE SESSION, BUT MAY TAKE ACTION CONCERNING SETTLEMENT NEGOTIATIONS OR STRATEGY RELATED TO LITIGATION EXPENDITURES AT A FUTURE PUBLIC MEETING. FOLLOWING INDIVIDUALS WILL BE PRESENT DURING THE EXECUTIVE SESSION. MAYOR HEITMAN COUNCIL MEMBERS KRAMER PENNIMAN, BARTON BLANK, VICE MAYOR BLANKENSHIP, COUNCILMAN KROL, COUNCILMAN SCHULTZ, CITY MANAGER GARY YOUNG, CITY ATTORNEY MATTHEW MCCONNELL, ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY ANDREW DICKMAN, ATTORNEY MICHAEL F, TWO AND A REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE DEAN'S COURT REPORTING. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THAT TAKES US TO 13 G. YES, MA'AM.ONCE AGAIN. ALL RIGHT. THIS IS PURSUANT TO FLORIDA STATUTE 286.011, SUBPARAGRAPH EIGHT, A REQUEST TO HOLD EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR ADVICE AND DISCUSSION OF. STRATEGY RELATED TO LITIGATION EXPENDITURES. THE CITY ATTORNEY IS ANNOUNCING HIS REQUEST FOR AN EXECUTIVE SESSION CLOSED TO THE PUBLIC FOR THE PURPOSE OF SEEKING ADVICE CONCERNING STRATEGY RELATED TO LITIGATION EXPENDITURES ASSOCIATED WITH THE LITIGATION. LITIGATION STYLED NAPLES PRIDE VERSUS CITY OF NAPLES AT ALL NUMBER 2025 CV 00291 UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT, MIDDLE DISTRICT OF FLORIDA, FORT MYERS DIVISION ON APRIL 6TH, 2026 AT APPROXIMATELY 1 P.M. IN THE CITY'S CONFERENCE ROOM ON THE SECOND FLOOR. AND I'LL GET BACK TO THAT IN A MINUTE BECAUSE THAT WILL BE A SPECIAL MEETING. THE EXECUTIVE SESSION IS EXPECTED TO LAST APPROXIMATELY ONE HOUR. THE ENTIRE SESSION SHALL BE RECORDED BY A CERTIFIED COURT REPORTER. THE REPORTER SHALL RECORD THE TIMES OF COMMENCEMENT AND TERMINATION OF THE SESSION. ALL DISCUSSIONS AND PROCEEDINGS. NAMES OF ALL PERSONS PRESENT AT THE TIME.
THE NAMES OF ALL PERSONS SPEAKING. NO PORTION OF THE SESSION WILL BE OFF THE RECORD, THE COURT REPORTERS NOTES SHALL BE FULLY TRANSCRIBED AND FILLED, FILED WITH THE CITY CLERK WITHIN A REASONABLE TIME AFTER THE MEETING. THE CITY COUNCIL WILL NOT TAKE ACTION DURING THE EXECUTIVE SESSION, BUT MAY TAKE ACTION CONCERNING STRATEGY RELATED TO LITIGATION EXPENDITURES AT A FUTURE PUBLIC MEETING, OR WHEN THEY RECONVENE FROM THE EXECUTIVE SESSION.
FOLLOWING INDIVIDUALS WILL BE PRESENT DURING THE EXECUTIVE SESSION. MAYOR HEIDEMANN COUNCIL MEMBERS KRAMER, PENNIMAN, BARTON, CROWELL, SCHULTZ AND VICE MAYOR BLANKENSHIP, CITY MANAGER YOUNG CITY ATTORNEY MATTHEW MCCONNELL, ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY ANDREW DICKMAN, ODIE DICKMAN FROM DICKMAN LAW FIRM AND A REPRESENTATIVE FROM DEAN'S COURT REPORTING. THANK YOU. SO BECAUSE THAT IS GOING TO BE ON THE FIRST THAT IS NOT A REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING. IT IS A SPECIAL MEETING. SO IT'S GOING TO REQUIRE A VOTE. YOUR RULES REQUIRE YOU TO VOTE. A MAJORITY HAS TO VOTE TO HAVE THAT MEETING AT 1:00 ON MONDAY FOR THE SIXTH. SO WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE MEMBERS OF COUNCIL ARE AVAILABLE FOR THE SIX TO ATTEND THIS MEETING AT 1:00. YES, YES IT IS. CAN EVERYBODY MAKE IT OR DO WE HAVE A QUORUM? DO YOU NEED A QUORUM OR DO YOU NEED A MAJORITY? WE WILL NEED A QUORUM BECAUSE YOU'LL MEET HERE IN THE SUNSHINE AND THEN ADJOURN AND GO TO EXECUTIVE SESSION. SO A QUORUM YOU JUST NEED FOR FOUR PEOPLE. 1:00 ON MONDAY THE SIXTH. YES. I THINK OKAY, SO IT LOOKS LIKE WE DO HAVE. YES, I SEE THAT YOU HAVE FOUR. I WILL NOT BE HERE, BUT. YOU'LL BE HERE. YOU WILL BE HERE. OKAY.
OKAY. SO THE FIRST THING WE NEED IS A MOTION TO SET THE SPECIAL MEETING. IS THAT CORRECT? YES. THAT'S CORRECT. MA'AM, I MOVE THAT WE SET THE SPECIAL MEETING FOR MONDAY AT 1 P.M. THE APRIL 6TH. APRIL 6TH. OKAY. A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER KRAMER. SECOND. I HAVE A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER BARTON. AND. IS THERE ANOTHER VOTE THAT HAS TO BE TAKEN? NO, THAT'S THE ONLY VOTE THAT HAS TO BE TAKEN TO HAVE THAT. AND OKAY, SO IS THERE A ROLL CALL? SO I WILL VOTE YES, BUT I WILL NOT BE ABLE TO ATTEND. SO MADAM CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE COUNCIL.
COUNCILMEMBER SCHULTZ. YES, COUNCIL MEMBER. PENMAN. YES. VICE MAYOR BLANKENSHIP. YES.
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COUNCIL MEMBER. BARTON. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. KRAMER. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. KRUL. YES.MAYOR HARTMAN. YES. SO THAT SCHEDULE IS THE SPECIAL MEETING THAT WILL BE THIS MONDAY, MONDAY THE SIXTH AT 1:00. THANK YOU. MAYOR. THAT CONCLUDES OUR REGULAR ITEMS. DO WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT? NO. WITH THAT, WE'LL GO TO CORRESPONDENCE AND COMMUNICATIONS COUNCIL MEMBER
[17) COMMUNICATIONS FROM MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL, AND STAFF]
CALL. YEAH, I THINK WHAT MAKES US A SPECIAL COMMUNITY AND ALL THAT IS ONE STANDOUT THING IS LIKE THAT TREE PROGRAM WE TALKED ABOUT TODAY. I MEAN, I THINK THAT'S REALLY SOMETHING SPECIAL ABOUT THIS WHOLE COMMUNITY AND JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THAT NOT ONLY DOES IT HELP US WITH RESILIENCY, YOU KNOW, HOLDING THE WATER AND ALL THAT, BUT IT'S THE BEAUTIFICATION AND ECO FRIENDLINESS OF IT. IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A RARE THING WHERE YOU SEE A LOT OF OTHER MUNICIPALITIES GETTING MORE CONCRETE AND MORE, YOU KNOW, AT LEAST WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT OUR, OUR GREENERY IN TOWN. I THINK THAT'S VERY MAKES US SPECIAL.AND I'M VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THAT. AND I THINK EVERYBODY HERE FEELS A SIMILAR, SIMILAR THOUGHT TO THANKS. THANK YOU, STAFF COUNCIL MEMBER, YOUR COMPLETE MOVING TO COUNCIL MEMBER BARTON IN REFERENCE TO. I KNOW WE'VE DEALT WITH. WE. THE READING OF THE DECLARATION ON JULY 8TH ON THE CITY STEPS. THE OTHER PIECE OF THAT WAS THE FLAG THAT'S FLOWN AT THE CAPITOL THAT CAN BE PUT UP AT THE PIER, WHICH I THOUGHT WAS A GREAT IDEA. IS THERE ANYTHING WE NEED TO DO IN REFERENCE TO THAT TO PROCEED WITH THAT, TO WE NEED A CONSENSUS OR I MEAN, ULTIMATELY, IF YOU HAVE A CONSENSUS DIRECTION, I WOULD WORK FROM THAT PREMISE, OBVIOUSLY, AND THERE'S PLENTY OF TIME FOR US TO CIRCLE BACK ON IT. BUT YEAH, CERTAINLY I DON'T I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY ISSUE WITH THAT IN ANY WAY. I THOUGHT IT WAS GREAT. I'M ALL FOR IT. I DON'T KNOW HOW EVERYBODY ELSE FEELS. YEAH. JUST CONFIRMING WE DO HAVE A FLAG AT THE AT THE PIER. ALL RIGHT. YEAH. WE JUST HAVE TO FINISH CONSTRUCTION. THEN WE'LL MAKE THE THE GOOD LORD WILLING. WE'LL HAVE THE FLAG BEFORE WE OPEN BACK UP. SO. YES, MA'AM.
YEAH. I GUESS THE ONLY DIFFERENCE WOULD BE OBVIOUSLY THIS ONE WOULD BE SPECIAL BECAUSE IT'S FLOWN OVER OUR CAPITAL, OUR NATION'S CAPITAL, AND YOU CAN NOW HAVE IT FLYING OVER OUR PIER. SO I THOUGHT THAT WAS KIND OF COOL. SO I ME AS WELL SIR. THANK YOU. DO I HAVE A CONSENSUS COUNCIL TO SUPPORT THAT MOVING FORWARD? GREAT. THANK YOU. LET THE RECORD SHOW THERE WAS CONSENSUS. THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER CRAMER. YES. AND SO SHOUT OUT TO HEATHER ABOUT THE TREE PROGRAM. MY MOTHER IN LAW 96 YEARS OLD, 97 ON JULY. SHE WE WERE DRIVING IN YESTERDAY DAY BEFORE AND SHE'S LOOK AT THIS TREE. I'M LIKE, HEATHER KNOWS EVERY TREE IN TOWN. SHE'S GOT EVERY ONE OF THEM CATALOGED. IT'S TRUE. IT'S CRAZY TO ME BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF THEM, BUT IT'S. THANK YOU, THANK YOU STEPH. YOU GUYS ARE AWESOME. I WOULD LIKE TO BRING UP SOMETHING REGARDING THE AIRPORT. AND I'M GOING TO ASK FOR CONSENSUS HERE. STATE LAW UNDER CHAPTER. YES MADAM MAYOR. YES, MISTER. IN LIGHT OF OUR ACTIVITY THIS MORNING IN BREAKING FOR THIS RECESS AND THE FACT THAT THE. THAT WE WERE ABLE THAT THE 4005 REACHED THE GOVERNOR'S DESK TODAY, WE WERE ABLE TO SPEAK WITH REPRESENTATIVES OF HIS STAFF.
AND DURING THE RECESS. AND IN LIGHT OF THAT, I WOULD THINK THAT THE ONLY THING WE SHOULD BE DOING TODAY IS ENCOURAGING OUR RESIDENTS TO CONTACT THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE, PENDING ANY ACTION BY HIM TO EXECUTE THE BILL. I THINK ANYTHING, ANY DISCUSSION OTHER THAN THAT IS, IS REALLY DETRACTING FROM WHAT THE PRIMARY FOCUS IS, WHICH IS TO TURN AROUND AND MAKE SURE THAT THE GOVERNOR TAKES IT HEART AND CONSIDERATION INTO OUR CORRESPONDENCE WITH HIM AND OUR MEETING TODAY. SO I ASK, RESPECTFULLY, IF WE IF WE COULD AVOID HAVING ANY. I WILL RESPOND RESPECTFULLY. THANK YOU FOR COACHING ME UP AND WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY, I'M NOT GOING TO SAY. AND GREAT JOB TODAY COACHING ME UP. IS THAT CONCLUDE YOUR. YES, MA'AM. OKAY.
THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER SCHULTZ. YEAH, I'VE GOT A A REQUEST. MAYBE IT'S MORE FOR GARY. I'D LIKE TO POST TWO INTERNSHIP POSITIONS WITH FLORIDA GULF COAST OR SOME
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COLLEGE KIDS TO DO INTERNSHIPS UNPAID TO ASSIST ME WITH WHAT I'D LIKE TO GET DONE WITH SOME THINGS. AND I WAS TOLD THAT IT WOULD BE SOMETIMES MAYBE PROBLEMATIC THAT THEY WOULD BE IN THE SUNSHINE ROOM AND USING COMPUTERS, AND I SIMPLY DON'T REALLY AGREE WITH ALL THAT. BUT I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD AND GET A COUPLE INTERNS TO ASSIST IN SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I'D LIKE TO DO. SO I DON'T KNOW WHO I GO TO FOR PERMISSION, APPROVAL OR WHATEVER THAT IS, BUT I THINK WHAT I'D LIKE. SURE. I THINK THE CLEANEST WAY IS WHAT YOU'RE DOING TODAY. AND IF COUNCIL, YOU KNOW, WANTED TO AS A DIRECTION TO SAY THAT THEY WANT TO HAVE INTERNSHIPS AT COUNCIL DISPOSAL, I'M NOT SURE BECAUSE HERE'S WHAT THE THINGS THAT I'D HAVE TO ASK IMMEDIATELY IS THIS A CITY COUNCIL WHERE ALL MEMBERS OF COUNCIL ARE AFFORDED THIS? ARE WE BUYING COMPUTERS FOR THEM, OR ARE THEY WORKING SOLELY ON YOUR. AND THEN IF YOU'RE GIVING DEDICATED SPACE WITHIN THE SUNSHINE ROOM, WHICH YOU ALL UTILIZE AND MEET PEOPLE THERE.SO THAT WOULD BE THE REASON WHY I'D WANT TO HAVE CONSENSUS. BECAUSE AS YOU KNOW WHAT YOU MAY OR MAY NOT KNOW, BUT, BUT EVEN TO THE EXTENT THAT I, I SHARE AN OFFICE SOMETIMES WITH SOMEONE WITHIN, BECAUSE SPACE IS LIMITED IN THIS BUILDING, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT IT'S A, IT WOULD BE A CITY COUNCIL DECISION TO SAY, YES, WE WANT TO HAVE INTERNS. YES.
PUT THEM IN THE SUNSHINE ROOM AND YOU'RE. YOU'LL BE DOWN TO. THEN IF YOU NEEDED A MEETING WITH CONSTITUENTS TO. ONLY THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL ROOM. SO. SO ALL OF THE LOGISTICS AS TO WHETHER THEY GET IT. IT'S A CITY COMPUTER. WHAT GOES ALONG WITH THAT? I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOUR SPECIFICS ARE, BUT I GUESS THAT THAT WOULD BE MY QUESTION TO YOU. WOULD THAT NOT BE A CITY COMPUTER AT ALL? NO USE OF A CITY COMPUTER. BUT YOU WANT THEM TO HAVE CITY OFFICE. THEY CAN TAKE MY SEAT. I CAN SIT AT THE MAIN. OKAY. JUST COMING IN AND OUT OF YOUR SPACE. CORRECT.
OKAY. AND LOGGING INTO AS THE NORMAL COMMUNITY OR WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT, THE THE NORMAL WIFI THAT IS NOT LINKED TO OUR SYSTEMS, BUT LINKED TO WHATEVER COMMUNITY BASED WI-FI SYSTEMS. RIGHT? OKAY, OKAY. I, I MEAN, CERTAINLY FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, IF SOMEBODY COMES IN AND OUT OF THAT CHAIR, AS LONG AS YOU WOULD TELL US WHO IT IS. SO WE'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO KNOW FIRST, I TALKED TO YOU WOULD HAVE COMPONENTS OF LIMITING IT TO BECAUSE WITHOUT HAVING CERTAIN ACCESS TO THE BUILDING, IT WOULD BE LIMITED TO WHEN THE BUILDING IS ALREADY OPEN, BECAUSE WE WOULDN'T GIVE THEM KEY CARDS AND DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT. SO, SO I THINK THAT COULD BE FACILITATED. I WOULD BE HERE. I'M NOT SURE WHERE THE TWO. YOU HAVE SPACE AT YOUR LOCATION TO HAVE TWO PEOPLE. ARE THEY GOING TO WORK AT ALL DURING TIME ALTERING TIMES? OKAY, I DON'T HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS. I MEAN, IF MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL WOULD HAVE SOMETHING ELSE TO SAY. BUT FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, I THINK LOGISTICALLY THAT CHECKS THE BOXES THAT I WOULD BE CONCERNED OF AS, AS, AS THE CITY MANAGER. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. OH. MR. DICKMAN YEAH. THE ONLY OTHER THING I WOULD JUST MENTION IS GIVE CITY ATTORNEY OPPORTUNITY TO TALK TO THEM ABOUT PUBLIC RECORDS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, BECAUSE WHAT THEY WOULD DO WOULD MOST LIKELY BE A PUBLIC RECORD IF THEY TYPED ANYTHING UP OR WRITE ANYTHING OR PREPARE ANYTHING, IT WOULD BE OUTREACH TO HOA'S. OKAY. AND, AND RESIDENTS ON MY BEHALF TO SCHEDULE SCHEDULE ME TO DO CERTAIN THINGS. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. I WOULD JUST ADD, IF WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT, IT'S A GOOD IDEA. I'M NOT OPPOSED TO IT, BUT TO MAKE IT OFFICIAL PROGRAM WITH GUIDELINES AND ALL THAT, I THINK THAT'S THE RIGHT WAY TO DO IT VERSUS JUST ONE PERSON DO IT AND KIND OF, YOU KNOW AND KNOW WHO'S APPLYING, YOU KNOW, AND MAYBE EVEN BACKGROUND CHECK, STUFF LIKE THAT. SO I MEAN, MAKE IT, MAKE IT OFFICIAL PROGRAM WHERE EVERYBODY HERE CAN UTILIZE IT AS WELL. SO THAT'LL BE MY, MY THOUGHT. WELL, THESE WERE SPECIFICALLY FOR ME, I KNOW, SO MORE OF A POLICY IS WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR OF GUIDELINES POLICY MAKE IT OFFICIAL VERSUS A ONE OFF THING. YOU KNOW, IF PEOPLE FEEL THAT SAME WAY. THEN YEAH, IT'S AN INTERESTING IDEA AND I APPLAUD YOU FOR IT. BUT YOU KNOW, WE COULD ALL BENEFIT BY A PROGRAM LIKE THAT, TO BE PERFECTLY HONEST WITH YOU. AND MY SENSE IS FGCU IS CONSTANTLY OUTREACHING, REACHING OUT TO COMMUNITIES TO BE A PART OF THE COMMUNITY. SO I COULD SEE THAT WE COULD ALL BENEFIT FROM THIS. TO BE PERFECTLY HONEST WITH YOU, IT'S A BRILLIANT IDEA ON YOUR PART, BUT I WOULD THINK FGCU WOULD EMBRACE THIS AS WELL FOR THEIR STUDENTS TO HAVE THAT KIND OF EXPERIENCE. SO I'D LIKE TO PURSUE IT FURTHER FOR, FRANKLY, ALL OF US, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, EVERYBODY BENEFITS. THANK YOU. KRAMER, JUST A QUICK QUESTION. SO COUNCILMAN SCHULTZ WOULD IT'S TO OUTREACH TO HOA. SHE SAID HOA IS RESIDENTS. I'M ON BEHALF
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OF CIVIC ORGANIZATIONS. I'M DOING RESEARCH ON TOPICS THAT I WANT THEM TO RESEARCH. THAT'S HOW I GOT STARTED IN POLITICS. SO. 17 AS A PRESS AIDE TO THE GOVERNOR. SO IT'S AN INTERNSHIP.SO, SO SO GETTING INFORMATION FROM THEM FOR YOU. WELL, SETTING UP, YOU KNOW, WHEN DOES YOUR HOA LIKE LIKE TED'S COMING. COUNCILMAN BLANKENSHIP IS COMING INTO MY BUILDING, FOR EXAMPLE, IN BAY POINT. NO PROBLEM WITH THAT AT ALL WHATSOEVER. BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT CAME ABOUT MANIFESTED ITSELF. BUT THAT DOESN'T MATTER TO ME. IT'S JUST THAT I WOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE SOMEONE THAT WOULD BE SORT OF A PERSONAL ASSISTANT TO ME. AND SOMETIMES YOU'RE WORKING HERE, BUT OFTEN TIMES IN MY OWN IN BAY POINT WHERE I LIVE AND THERE'S A ROOM THERE THAT EVERYBODY CAN ACCESS AND HAVE THEM SET SHOP IN THERE. AND HERE WHEN I'M HERE, THEY WOULDN'T BE HERE WITHOUT ME HERE. YEAH. SO JUST TWO QUICK THOUGHTS. ONE THREE THEN THREE ONE AT A TIME. YEAH. ONE IS I THINK SOME OF THAT JUST FOR PRACTICAL PURPOSES, SANDRA FASANO WORKS FOR ALL OF US. AND SHE CAN KIND OF CONNECT YOU WITH H O S. I THINK SHE'S DONE WELL, BUT SHE'S VERY BUSY. I TRIED TO WORK WITH HER AND SHE'S PRETTY, BUT SHE'S DONE A REALLY GOOD JOB FOR HER. OH SHE'S GREAT. OKAY. AND THEN TWO AND I HAD SIMILAR QUESTIONS WHEN I CAME ON BOARD. ANYTIME WE HAVE TO BE REALLY CAREFUL ABOUT SENDING OUT ANY INFORMATION BECAUSE WE'RE ONE VOICE, EACH OF US UP HERE, WE DON'T. AND SO WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE IF I'M NOT SPEAKING FOR THE COUNCIL ON ANYTHING, THIS IS MY PERSONAL OPINION. UNLESS COUNCIL GAVE US CONSENSUS TO DO SO, TO SPEAK FOR THEM. AND SO THOSE THOSE TWO SIDES OF THAT, WHATEVER THEIR INTERACTION WOULD BE, EITHER RETRIEVING INFORMATION OR GIVING INFORMATION. I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER THAT. AND THEN THE OTHER THING, IT MAY BE A REALLY GOOD IDEA. I'M NOT SURE HOW MUCH WORK THERE ACTUALLY IS. I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW. I'D HAVE TO SEE THE PROGRAMING, BUT SOUNDS COOL. BUT BACK IN MY DAY WAS I WAS WRITING PRESS RELEASES, REJECTION LETTERS. WE HAVE, WE HAVE WE HAVE A COMMUNICATIONS EXPERT IN MONIQUE SO THAT WE HAVE THAT TO CITY BUSINESS. THIS IS MY OWN BUSINESS, RIGHT? THOSE ARE THE KEY ELEMENTS TO IS IS IT CITY BUSINESS OR IS THIS SOMETHING DIFFERENT? AND THEN THAT ALSO GETS BACK INTO WHEN YOU SAY, WELL, IF IT'S REALLY NOT CITY BUSINESS AND THEN YOU HAVE THEM OCCUPYING CITY SPACE, THAT'S WHY. SO THE, THE IDEA OF GETTING CONCEPTUALLY WHAT YOU WANT, TALK ABOUT IT FROM A LEGAL PERSPECTIVE AND FERRETING OUT THOSE THINGS WITH LEGAL SO THAT YOU CAN HAVE A, A COMPREHENSIVE DISCUSSION ON IT WOULD BE THE BEST AS IT JUST SAYING, OKAY, WE'RE GOING TO DO IT. SO, SO I THINK BECAUSE THEY'RE ALL VALID POINTS AND, BUT THE MOMENT YOU DELINEATE. AND THAT'S WHERE IT GETS A LITTLE BIT. YOU KNOW, WHEN WE SAY SANDRA IS SANDRA IS FANTASTIC, BUT THERE'S ALSO LIMITED TIME FOR SANDRA IN THE SENSE THAT SHE ALREADY HAS A NUMBER OF ITEMS. AND SO AND THEN WHEN YOU DELINEATE BETWEEN CITY AND NON CITY, THEN IT BECOMES ITS OWN. THERE'S THEIR OWN DEBATABLE FACTOR. YOU SEE WHAT I'M ALLUDING TO THERE. SO SO I JUST WOULD CAUTION THAT. AND I SAY THAT'S WHY THE IDEA OF HAVING A POLICY LET'S TAKE WHATEVER'S, YOU KNOW IN MR. SCHULTZ'S IDEAS IN TERMS OF THAT, PUT IT TO PAPER, LET IT VET IT WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY AND SAY, WHAT WOULD THAT LOOK LIKE? AND THEN IS THERE ANY OBSTACLES OR HURDLES? AND I'LL LET MR. DICKMAN SPEAK FOR HIMSELF. YEAH, I TALKED TO MATTHEW AND HE SIMPLY SAID, BRING IT UP TO COUNCIL TO GET THE APPROVAL TO DO IT. WHAT HE HAD TOLD ME, HE SAYS HE DOESN'T HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO SAY I CAN OR CAN'T IS WHAT HE SAID. SO THAT'S WHY HE SAID, BRING IT UP IN COMMUNICATIONS, WHICH I'M DOING. YEAH, YEAH, JUST WE CAN WE CAN GET TOGETHER AND TALK AND, AND YOU KNOW, AS, AS LONG AS PUBLIC RESOURCES AREN'T BEING USED FOR PRIVATE PURPOSES AND IT'S, THERE AREN'T ANY HR POLICIES AGAINST IT. SO I GUESS WE WOULD HAVE TO TALK TO YOUR HR DIRECTOR AND MAKE SURE EVERYTHING'S FINE WITH THAT. AND IT'S NOT PAID. YEAH, WELL, THERE'S MORE TO IT. THERE'S MORE MONEY. THERE'S THERE'S MORE TO IT TOO, BECAUSE IT'S A CITY, IT'S A CITY RESOURCE. AND AGAIN, AND I SAY THAT IT'S NOT AN HR POLICY BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT AN EMPLOYEE. AND THAT'S THE ONLY REASON I'M NOT WE'RE NOT. SO THAT'S WHY I'M SAYING THERE JUST NEEDS TO BE TIME FOR US TO HAVE A CONVERSATION. THAT'S ALL I'M ASKING FOR IS THAT TIME. THAT'S ALL. YEAH. YOU MAY WANT LIKE A CONFIDENTIALITY AGREEMENT SIGNED BY THAT INTERN AND SOME OTHER THINGS. YOU KNOW THAT FOR LIABILITY. YEAH. COUNCIL MEMBER. I MADE A NOTE TO MYSELF TO TO GET WITH YOU AND MATTHEW. WORK ALL OUT ANY BUGS IF THERE ARE ANY AND GET WITH GARY AND THEN IF IF EVERYTHING'S COVERED, OKAY. NO PROBLEM. THANK YOU. GREAT. MAARTEN, JUST A QUICK COMMENT.
I'M TOTALLY FINE WITH IT. AND I HAVE ALL THE CONFIDENCE WORLD THAT OUR LEGAL REPRESENTATIVES AND OUR CITY MANAGER WILL FIGURE OUT A PROPER WAY TO DO THIS. I AGREE THAT IT NEEDS TO BE A FORMAL POLICY. IF IT'S GOING TO BE AN INTERN FOR THE CITY COUNCIL OF NAPLES OR
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WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE A FORMAL POSITION THAT NEEDS TO BE WE NEED TO HAVE A FORMAL POLICY, AND I HAVE ALL CONFIDENCE THAT YOU GUYS WILL FIGURE THAT OUT AND MOVE FORWARD. BUT OTHER THAN THAT, I'M FINE. THANK. THANK YOU. ANYTHING ELSE? THAT'S IT FOR ME. OKAY. COUNCILWOMAN PENMAN, I'M GOOD. THANK YOU. AND VICE MAYOR. ALL RIGHT. A COUPLE OF THINGS. SO ON MARCH 19TH WAS ABLE TO ATTEND THE SOUTHWEST FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES MEETING. THERE WERE A LOT OF PEOPLE THERE. IT WAS UP IN FORT MYERS.INTERESTING. THEY SAID IT WAS THE FIRST TIME THEY'D SEEN SOMEONE FROM NAPLES IN YEARS SINCE WE PROBABLY. BUT IT WAS INTERESTING TO PARTICIPATE. MEETING REPRESENTATIVES FROM ESTERO, BONITA, FORT MYERS, CAPE CORAL, YOU KNOW, HEARING SOME ABOUT THEIR ISSUES. THE SPEAKER WAS SENATOR MARTIN. HE'S ONE OF THE SENATORS IN LEE COUNTY WHO'S BEEN IN OFFICE FOR A WHILE. AND HIS MAIN TOPIC, IT WAS ABOUT THE LEGISLATIVE UPDATE, BUT IT WAS ALMOST ALL ABOUT PROPERTY TAXES. AND IT WAS JUST INTERESTING TO GET HIS INSIGHTS ON WHAT HE THINKS MAY OR MAY NOT HAPPEN. HE SAID THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE AND THE LEGISLATIVE LEADERS ARE VERY MUCH WORKING ON COMPETING PROPERTY TAX PROPOSALS, AND THEY'RE GOING THROUGH FOCUS GROUPS TO TRY TO GET FEEDBACK FROM THE PUBLIC ON DIFFERENT THINGS. THERE'S OBVIOUSLY A LOT OF CONCERN FROM THE REPRESENTATIVES OF CITIES WHO ARE THERE ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS IF WE LOSE PROPERTY TAXES. AND HE INDICATED THAT THEY ARE AWARE OF THAT, THAT THEY ARE CONSIDERING WAYS TO MAKE IT UP THROUGH POTENTIALLY NEW SALES TAXES. I MISSED THAT THROUGH SALES TAX, A NEW SALES TAX, WHICH IT WAS POINTED OUT SOME THAT WOULD BE HARD, LIKE THE CITY OF CAPE CORAL, FOR INSTANCE, 92% OF THEIR REVENUE BASE IS RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY TAXES, WHICH IS ALMOST ALL HOMESTEADED. SO THEY HAVE VERY LITTLE COMMERCIAL TAX BASE. WE ARE IN A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT SITUATION BECAUSE I FORGET, GARY, WE'RE WE'RE NOT HALF ARE WE HALF HOMESTEADED SOME ROUND HALF HOMESTEADED A LITTLE OVER 40% GIVE OR TAKE. YEAH. BUT THEN THE FEAR IS IF THE STATE OF FLORIDA ALL OF A SUDDEN EXEMPTS HOMESTEADED PROPERTIES, ALL THE SNOWBIRDS AND SEASONAL PEOPLE WILL SUDDENLY BECOME HOMESTEADED BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE AN INCOME TAX. WE DON'T WE WOULDN'T HAVE A PROPERTY TAX WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, EVEN MORE ADVANTAGEOUS TO BE HERE. SO I THINK THEY REALIZE THEY HAVE A LOT TO WORK THROUGH. HE THINKS THAT THEY WILL WORK OR HE SAID HE THINKS THEY WILL WORK OUT A SOLUTION BEFORE THEY CALL A SPECIAL SESSION. THEY DON'T WANT TO CALL A SPECIAL SESSION IF THEY HAVEN'T WORKED OUT A COMPROMISE POSITION ON WHAT THEY'RE DOING. SO TO THE EXTENT WE NEED TO KEEP OUR EAR TO THE GROUND AND KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON AND TALK TO OUR LEGISLATIVE DELEGATION WHEN WE HEAR OR FEEL LIKE A PROPOSAL IS CLOSE, WE'LL WANT TO WEIGH IN ON THAT, ON HOW IT IMPACTS US. SO IT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO IF WE WAIT UNTIL THEY CALL THE SPECIAL SESSION, IT MAY BE TOO LATE BECAUSE THE DEAL MAY BE DONE AT THAT POINT. WE HAD OUR AUDITOR SELECTION COMMITTEE MEETING YESTERDAY, APPROVED THE RFP, RFP, I THINK IT WAS GOING OUT TODAY. THE PROPOSALS ARE DUE BACK BY MAY 1ST. THE COMMITTEE WILL REVIEW THOSE, HAVE INTERVIEWS IF NECESSARY, AND PRESENT A RECOMMENDATION BACK TO COUNCIL BEFORE BREAK. I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY WHICH MEETING, BUT BEFORE THE BREAK BECAUSE IT WOULD BE FOR THE SEPTEMBER 30TH AUDIT. SO OBVIOUSLY THE FINANCE TEAM NEEDS TO KNOW WHO THE AUDITOR IS. IT WAS INTERESTING. WE'VE HAD THE SAME AUDIT FIRM FOR 15 YEARS, SO WE HAD SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT JUST MAKING SURE WE GO THROUGH THE RIGHT DUE DILIGENCE, NOT SAYING WE WILL CHOOSE THEM OR WON'T CHOOSE THEM, BUT JUST THAT WE GO THROUGH A GOOD DUE DILIGENCE PROCESS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE GETTING THE BEST SERVICE THAT WE CAN. INTERESTING. AND JUST TO FOLLOW UP ON MR. YOUNG'S COMMENT THAT WE DID GET TO HAVE A REAL QUICK CALL WITH SOMEONE FROM THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE ABOUT HB 405 THAT FOR THE PUBLIC WHO MAY NOT KNOW, IT WAS TRANSMITTED FROM THE LEGISLATURE TO THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE YESTERDAY. HE NOW HAS 15 DAYS FROM YESTERDAY TO DECIDE IF HE WANTS TO VETO OR APPROVE IT, SIGN IT OR LET IT BE, LET IT GO INTO EFFECT. SO WE WALKED THROUGH THE POINTS IN THE LETTER THAT HAVE BEEN MADE THAT COUNCIL SENT UP. THE LETTER, ANSWERED A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS,
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PROVIDED SOME ADDITIONAL HISTORICAL CONTEXT AROUND THE ARRANGEMENT AND WHAT WE'RE HEARING FROM RESIDENTS ABOUT IT. AND HE SEEMED VERY OPEN MINDED AND WAS GOING TO THINK ABOUT WHAT WE SAID. LET US KNOW IF HE HAS ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OR NEEDS ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.WE OFFERED OBVIOUSLY, MORE MEETINGS THAT THEY NEEDED. IF THEY WANT US TO COME MEET WITH THEM IN PERSON, WE COULD DO THAT. OBVIOUSLY, TIME IS SHORT, SO WE SAID WE WOULD DO WHATEVER WE COULD TO GET THEM INFORMATION THAT THEY MIGHT NEED. OUR LOBBYISTS RECOMMENDED THAT TO THE EXTENT PEOPLE HAVEN'T YET CONTACTED THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE WITH THEIR FEELINGS, THEY SHOULD. OR EVEN IF THEY HAVE, MAYBE THEY SHOULD AGAIN. SO HOPEFULLY THE CITY CAN SEND OUT THE ACTUAL THE CURRENT CONTACT INFORMATION FOR THE PERSON WE SHOULD BE SENDING INFORMATION TO TO EXPRESS OUR OPINIONS OR ENCOURAGE RESIDENTS TO DO THAT AS WELL, JUST AS SOON AS POSSIBLE, BECAUSE THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT IT NOW. IT'S JUST THE CONTACT THAT WE NEED. IS THAT THE RIGHT ONE? GARY? DAVID'S GOING TO BRING IT UP. OKAY. WE MADE A SLIDE SO THEY HAD IT. AWESOME, AWESOME. SO YEAH, WE CAN THAT OBVIOUSLY BE ON THE CITY WEBSITE. IT'S IT'S HERE FOR PEOPLE AND WE CAN SEND IT TO PEOPLE WE KNOW THAT ARE INTERESTED TO AND INVITE THEM TO SEND THEIR COMMENTS AS WELL. MR. DAMON, MR. YOUNG, YOU ARE THERE ANYTHING ELSE WE SHOULD MENTION? NO, I THINK THAT'S CONSISTENT AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAD A VISUAL SO EVERYONE COULD WRITE IT DOWN RATHER THAN SOMETIMES YOU HEAR THINGS AND DON'T GET IT SO THEY CAN. THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY. WE'LL TRY TO DISSEMINATE. WE ENCOURAGE ALL OF YOU TO DISSEMINATE IT TO EVERYONE WHO'S CONTACTED YOU. THE MORE CONTACTS WE CAN GET BETWEEN NOW AND ANY ACTION BY THE GOVERNOR, THE BETTER WE'LL BE. AWESOME. THANK YOU. AND THEN JUST THE LAST THING, THE PUBLIC SPEAKERS THIS MORNING, I MENTIONED A PREVIOUS DISCUSSION ABOUT A DISABILITY RELATED CAMP. MAYBE IF WE THE WE WEREN'T HERE COULD JUST GET SOME INFORMATION ON WHAT IT WAS AND WHAT THE DECISION WAS. SO WE UNDERSTAND THE CONTEXT FOR THE COMMENTS.
I'LL MAKE SURE THAT IT'S DISSEMINATED TO ALL MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. THANK YOU. I'M ON THE MLP AND THEN THE FLORIDA SOUTHWEST FLORIDA REGIONAL PLANNING. ARE WE SUPPOSED TO.
AM I SUPPOSED TO UPDATE YOU ALL WITH WHAT I'M DOING THERE? ADDRESS THAT. THANK YOU. OKAY.
ADDRESS THAT. SO. RIGHT. OKAY. YEAH, YEAH. THAT'S IT. SO YEAH, I LIKE TO HEAR WHAT'S GOING ON AND HOW WE RELATE TO THE OTHER AGENCIES. SO IN OUR RULES OF PROCEDURES, THIS YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY YOU CAN SUBMIT IN A REPORT PRIOR TO THE PUBLICATION OF THE PACKETS FOR US, OR YOU CAN BRING IT UP IN CORRESPONDENCE AND COMMUNICATIONS. OBVIOUSLY, THE COMMITTEES THAT YOU'VE BEEN APPOINTED TO ARE VERY IMPORTANT. YOU'RE OUR LIAISON. AND FOR US TO HAVE A REPORT FROM YOU ON WHAT IS HAPPENING IS VITAL. SO YES, THAT SHOULD BE ON YOUR CHECKLIST OF ANY COMMITTEE THAT YOU'RE INVOLVED IN THAT YOU'LL BE LIKE YOU. KRAMER, YOU'LL HEAR HIM. HE'LL GIVE US REPORTS FROM HIS COMMITTEE MEETINGS. AND THANK YOU FOR THAT. SO IT WOULD BE ORAL. SO NOTHING WRITING ORAL. IT CAN BE ORAL OR YOU COULD SUBMIT IT PRIOR TO THE PUBLICATION OF OF THE PACKETS. AND IF YOU CAN'T MAKE A MEETING BECAUSE WE MAY NOT KNOW IF YOU'RE NOT GIVING A REGULAR. REPORT AND WE DON'T KNOW YOU'RE GOING OR ASSUMING THERE'S NOT SOMETHING WE SHOULD KNOW, WHICH IS NOT GOOD, ASSUMING. BUT IF YOU CAN'T MAKE YOUR COMMITTEE MEETING, YOU CAN ASK THAT THERE BE A SUBSTITUTE TO GO IN YOUR PLACE. SO KEEP THAT IN MIND. AND IF YOU CANNOT FULFILL YOUR OBLIGATION TO THAT COMMITTEE, JUST LET US KNOW AND WE'LL, YOU KNOW, MAYBE SOMEONE ELSE WILL PICK UP THAT SLACK. SO DOES THAT ANSWER THE QUESTION? I THINK SO PERFECT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU FOR GOING. YES. DO YOU GET YOUR INFORMATION ABOUT THE LEAGUE OF CITIES FROM. WELL, THERE'S A DIRECTOR I THINK SHE'S BASED IN. SHE'S IN LAKE COUNTY. I'M NOT SURE WHICH JURISDICTION, BUT SHE SENDS OUT INFORMATION ABOUT THE MONTHLY MEETINGS. BUT YOU RECEIVE IT FROM THE CLERK OR DO YOU RECEIVE IT FROM AN EMAIL DIRECTED TO YOU THE SECOND. SO THAT DIRECTOR, BECAUSE THE CLERK NOTIFIED HER AFTER I WAS APPOINTED THAT YES. WAS THE NEW REPRESENTATIVE AND GAVE HER MY
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CONTACT INFORMATION. SO NOW SHE SENDS IT DIRECTLY TO ME, BUT I THINK SHE COPIES SANDRA AS WELL.GOOD. THANK YOU. THAT'S THANK YOU FOR THE CLERK FOR FOLLOWING UP ON THAT. SHE IS OUR LIAISON.
SO PERFECT. THANK YOU. COMPLETE. ALL RIGHT, MR. DICKMAN, ANYTHING FOR CORRESPONDENCE? NO, MA'AM. THANK YOU. COME ON. NO. NO UPDATES. DO WE HAVE A BABY? OKAY. THERE WILL BE ONE SOON.
YEAH. WE'RE PRAYING AND KNOWING. BEST WISHES TO THEM. THANK YOU. I'LL PASS THOSE ALONG. I'M SURE.
I'M SURE HE'S WATCHING. I DOUBT THAT, MR. YOUNG. NO. OTHER THAN READING INTO THE RECORD THAT AGAIN, GOVERNOR DESANTIS OFFICE IS JACK ROGERS AT G.FLORIDA.COM. AND JUST ONE MORE TAKE, ONE MORE OPPORTUNITY TO ENCOURAGE ANYONE WITH INTEREST IN IN THAT ITEM SITTING ON THE MAYOR'S DESK TO THE MAYOR, THE GOVERNOR'S DESK TO TO REACH OUT AND AND THIS IS THE TIME FOR ACTION. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OKAY. I JUST NEED TO CLARIFY. THANK YOU. YOUR COMPLETE FOR.
WE HAD A DISCUSSION ON THE INTERVIEW FOR CANDIDATES. I THINK COUNCILMAN KRAMER YOU SAID DO THEY HAVE TO RE INTERVIEW AND I DON'T REMEMBER US COMING UP WITH A DECISION OR CONSENSUS ON WHETHER WE WANTED THEM TO RE INTERVIEW OR NOT. I SPOKE TO THE CLERK ABOUT THIS YESTERDAY. SO COUNCIL YOUR FEELINGS. I PERSONALLY THINK IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO RE-INTERVIEW IF THEY WANT TO. RE-INTERVIEW. YES, I THINK WE SHOULD PUT IT TO THEIR DISCRETION. IN OTHER WORDS, IF THEY WANT TO BE CONSIDERED, THEY DON'T HAVE TO INTERVIEW.
BUT IF THEY WISH TO INTERVIEW, THEN THEY CAN. I AGREE WITH THAT. OKAY. CAN I HAVE A CONSENSUS THAT WE. THE CLERK WOULD SAY, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO, YOU CAN. AND IF YOU PREFER NOT TO, YOU'LL BE CONSIDERED WITHOUT INTERVIEWING. AGAIN. YES. JUST LET THE CLERK KNOW THAT YOU WANT TO BE CONSIDERED. AND IF YOU CHOOSE TO BE INTERVIEWED AGAIN, THAT'S AT YOUR DISCRETION AND WE'D BE HAPPY TO DO SO. PERFECT. THAT'S THE CONSENSUS, AND THAT'S WHAT THE CLERK WILL DIRECT. THOSE THAT WERE INTERVIEWED THE FIRST TIME FOR THE SECOND ROUND OF INTERVIEWS. OH, ITEMS SEVEN E, WHICH WAS UNDER CONSENT AGENDA. THE REASON I'M BRINGING IT UP IS IT'S. IT WAS GIVING A EASEMENT TO US FROM A PROJECT IN THE COUNTY, AND IT WAS AN EASEMENT THAT WAS NEEDED AS YOU READ IN YOUR BACKUP MATERIALS. MY QUESTION IS THE AND THE PROCESS ON HOW WE GET TO THAT PRIOR TO. AND THE REASON I BRING THAT UP IS EVEN WITHIN THE CITY, WE HAD A PROJECT THAT THE PROJECT WENT OVER AN EASEMENT THAT HAD WATER AND SEWER. AND THE PROJECT WAS, YOU REMEMBER THIS VICE MAYOR AND THE PROJECT WAS COMPLETE. BY THE TIME THE SURVEY HAPPENED, WE FOUND OUT THEY HAD BUILT OVER OUR EASEMENT. ACTUALLY, IT WASN'T THE SURVEY. IT WAS THE FACT THAT WE COULDN'T LOCATE OUR UTILITIES, AND IT WAS UNDERNEATH THEIR BUILDING THAT THEY HAD BUILT OVER. SO I WANTED I CONFIRMED WITH MR. YOUNG THAT WE HAVE A PROCESS. WE SHOULD KNOW THE PROCESS OF HOW UTILITIES ARE BEING NEGOTIATED WHEN THERE'S A PROJECT OUTSIDE OF THE CITY, BECAUSE WE DO KNOW IT CAN HAPPEN TO US BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IS THAT THE BURDEN THAT THE COUNCIL HAS? I MEAN, THAT THE, YOU KNOW, STAFF WOULD HAVE TO TAKE ON AND OR CAN WE BE PROACTIVE INSTEAD OF REACTIVE BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE ANOTHER SITUATION LIKE WE HAD IN THE CITY, IF YOU RECALL.
YEAH, THAT'S NOT GOOD. SO MR. YOUNG WAS GOING TO TALK ABOUT THAT AT A DIFFERENT TIME, BUT.
MR. YEAH, YEAH. AND I THINK THERE'S TWO TWO SEPARATE ONE IS IN EXISTING EASEMENTS. AND HOW DO WE PROTECT THEM? BUT THE OTHER ONE TOO, SPECIFICALLY IN THIS CASE IS GAINING ACCESS TO AN EASEMENT OR GETTING AN EASEMENT IN CONNECTION WITH A PROPERTY OUTSIDE OF THE CITY.
AND I THINK WHAT YOU'RE ALLUDING TO IS, HOW DOES IT COME TO BE THAT WE'RE GUARANTEEING THESE SERVICES TO BE PROVIDED, AND HOW EARLY CAN WE DETECT THAT AND KNOW WHETHER
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OR NOT WE WANT TO DO THAT OR PREVENT IT IN THE FUTURE, WHICH GOES BACK TO PROVIDING WATER SERVICES TO AREA OUTSIDE OF IT. SO WITH WITH THE GIVEN THE CHANGE IN THE PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR AND DOCTOR GEORGE'S ON BOARD A NEW COUNCIL, I THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD TO WORKSHOP COME BACK TO YOU. HERE'S OUR RIGHTS. HERE'S HERE'S THE PROCESS. HERE'S WHAT OUR RIGHTS ARE, HERE'S WHAT WE CAN AND CANNOT DO. AND THEN DELINEATE THOSE FOR YOU. WE HAVE TRIED TO STEP UP IN TERMS OF CONVERSATIONS WITH THE COUNTY PLANNING DEPARTMENT, IDENTIFYING WHERE WE THINK YOU'RE MOVING RIGHT NEXT TO US, AND IT'S GOING TO TAKE INTER-LOCAL GOVERNMENTAL RESOURCES AND TRYING TO DO THAT. BUT I THINK HAVING THAT BROAD DISCUSSION, BUT GETTING SPECIFICALLY DOWN TO UTILITIES AND LETTING YOU KNOW WHAT OUR RIGHTS AND RIGHTS AND WHAT OBLIGATES US IN CERTAIN THINGS IN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT. AND THEN TO BEGIN TO THOSE DISCUSSIONS ON THAT. SO I THINK THAT'S A GOOD THING TO WORKSHOP, AND I'LL SEE IF I CAN'T GET IT ON. IT WON'T BE BY APRIL, BUT BASED ON PROBABILITY AND THAT THE MAY IS THE CIP BUDGET OR THE CIP DISCUSSIONS WOULD LIKELY BE THE SOONEST WOULD BE THE JUNE. THE JUNE WORKSHOP, UNLESS I CAN FIT IT IN AS A DISCUSSION ON THEM ON A. ON A LIGHTER COUNCIL MEETING, IF WE HAVE ONE. JUST AS LONG AS WE KNOW THAT YOU'RE WORKING ON THAT. AND WITH THE NEW STAFF.YES. WE DON'T WANT TO BUMP ANY OTHER THINGS THAT. BUT I APPRECIATE THAT FOR COUNCIL'S BENEFIT. MR. MCCONNELL WAS GOING TO GO OVER THE REFERENDUM, BUT I KNOW WE HAD A PUBLIC SPEAKER THAT WAS ASKING ABOUT IT AND MENTIONED THE NUMEROUS THINGS ON IT ON THE REFERENDUM.
SO I'LL I'LL JUST WAIT TILL WE HAVE OUR CITY ATTORNEY THAT WAS PREPARED TO ADDRESS THAT. JUST WANTED TO ADDRESS THE PUBLIC SPEAKER, MR. YOUNG, I HAVE EVERY CONFIDENCE IN THE WORLD THAT WE'RE GOING TO ADDRESS THE MULCH, BUT I REALLY FEEL STRONGLY THAT COUNCIL NEEDS TO MAKE A POLICY ON WHETHER WE WANT TO SAY NO MORE MULCH OR, YOU KNOW, AND I AGREE THAT IT MAY TAKE A TRANSITION, BUT JUST IN THERE ARE OTHER CITIES AND I'VE SENT PICTURES AND I'M PREPARED FOR THAT MEETING. IF WE HAVE THAT DISCUSSION ON SHOWING THAT YOU CAN HAVE A BEAUTIFUL AREA LIKE PALM BEACH WHERE THEY DON'T HAVE MULCH, AND IT'S NOT DEFEATING OUR STORMWATER SYSTEM AND CLOGGING IT UP. SO I'M IN 100% AGREEMENT. I JUST I THOUGHT MR. MAYOR MISSED THE OPPORTUNITY TO LET YOU KNOW THAT WE'RE WE ACTUALLY HAVE A PROJECT COMING TO YOU IN THE NEXT 30 DAYS THAT WHERE WE CAN BEGIN THAT PROCESS AND BROADEN IT FROM THERE. SO, SO YEAH, I AGREED. I JUST WANTED TO CAPITALIZE ON THAT OPPORTUNITY. I JUST WANTED YOU TO KNOW WHEN I BROUGHT THAT UP, I THANK YOU. I KNEW YOU WERE ON TOP OF IT AND HAD NOT FORGOTTEN.
ALL THE REST OF MY THINGS HAVE BEEN BROUGHT UP. I'LL JUST MENTION A LITTLE BIT EARLY THERE. THE CONSERVANCY IS HAVING EARTH DAY AND IT'S A SATURDAY EVENT APRIL 18TH FROM 10 TO 3. AND LISTEN, IF WE'RE NOT PAYING ATTENTION TO OUR EARTH AND CELEBRATING OUR EARTH AND GIVING THE CONSERVANCY THE SUPPORT, I WOULDN'T BE DOING MY JOB BECAUSE THEY'RE THEY'RE GREAT PARTNERS FOR US AND WE SHOULD BE GOOD PARTNERS TO THEM. SO IT'S A GOOD FAMILY EVENT.
TAKE ADVANTAGE OF EARTH DAY AT THE CONSERVANCY ON APRIL 18TH, 10 TO 3. AND WITH THAT, OUR NEXT MEETING IS APRIL 13TH. OKAY. SORRY. NO. SPECIAL MEETING. SPECIAL MEETING ON THE FIFTH. OH, OUR SPECIAL MEETING ON THE SIXTH. THANK YOU. AND OUR NEXT MEETING IS A WORKSHOP WHICH IS A APRIL 13TH. AND I'M SO HAPPY I GOT 1ST APRIL FOOL'S DAY JOKE IN TODAY. AND WITH THAT THANK YOU COUNCIL. STRONG WORK TODAY AND
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