[1) Call to Order]
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          TO TODAY'S MEETING. IF YOU WISH TO ADDRESS THE BOARD REGARDING AN ITEM LISTED ON THIS AGENDA, PLEASE COMPLETE A REGISTRATION FORM AT THE REAR OF THE ROOM AND PLACE IT IN THE SPEAKER REQUEST BOX LOCATED ON THE DAIS PRIOR TO CONSIDERATION OF THAT ITEM, WE ASK THAT SPEAKERS LIMIT THEIR COMMENTS TO SEVEN MINUTES AND THAT LARGE GROUPS NAME A SPOKESMAN WHENEVER POSSIBLE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR INTEREST IN PARTICIPATION IN CITY GOVERNMENT. I'LL CALL TO ORDER, PLEASE. WOULD YOU LIKE THE ROLL CALL AS WELL? YES. OKAY. NONVOTING SCHOOL BOARD MEMBER MISS LOCKHART IS ABSENT. MEMBER BARRON HERE. ALTERNATE MEMBER COOPER HERE. MEMBER. 
          CREES. PRESENT. MEMBER. FOWLER. PRESENT. MEMBER. MAYOR. YEP. VICE CHAIR. KAPPLER IS ABSENT. 
          CHAIR. COUGHLIN HERE. THANK YOU. OKAY. NEXT IS PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. PLEASE STAND. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. BEFORE WE GET INTO OUR AGENDA, I'VE SAD NEWS AGAIN. WHO WAS CHAIRMAN OF THE PLANNING ADVISORY BOARD FOR SIX YEARS, PASSED AWAY ON FRIDAY, WAS NOT SICK. HE JUST EXPERIENCED AN EVENT THAT WAS HE DID PASS. SO THAT'S I JUST LIKE TO HAVE A MOMENT OF SILENCE SO I COULD FOR 30S, PLEASE. THANK YOU ALL. ANY CHANGES TO THE AGENDA? NO, SIR. OKAY. ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR ITEMS THAT ARE NOT ON THE AGENDA? I DON'T HAVE ANY RIGHT. APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES OF 
          [6.A) Approval of the February 11, 2026, Planning Advisory Board Meeting Minutes.]
FEBRUARY 11TH, 2026. ANY ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS? MOTION TO APPROVE. MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. THAT WAS EASY. NEXT ITEM. PUBLIC HEARING. THIS 
          [7.A) A Resolution Determining Site Plan Petition 25-SP1 for a Hotel Comprised of Two Lower Levels of Structural Parking and Six Levels of Hotel Suites/Lodging Units and Hotel Amenities, Including Guest Dining, Fitness Center, Business Center and a Raised Pool, Pool Deck, Courtyard and Patio Space on Lot 2 in The Commons Professional Park Planned Development on Property Owned by Commonage Corporation, a Delaware Corporation, and Located at 870 Goodlette-Frank Road, More Fully Described Herein; and Providing Effective Date.]
IS SEVEN A RESOLUTION DETERMINING SITE PLAN. PETITION 25 DASH SP ONE FOR HOTEL COMPROMISE OF TWO LOWER LEVELS OF STRUCTURAL PARKING AND SIX LEVELS OF HOTEL SUITES, LODGING UNITS AND HOTEL AMENITIES INCLUDING GUEST DINING, FITNESS CENTER, BUSINESS CENTER AND RES POOL, POOL DECK, COURTYARD AND PATIO SPACE ON LOT TWO IN THE COMMONS PROFESSIONAL PARK. 
          PLANNED ON DEVELOPMENT ON PROPERTY OWNED BY HOMAGE CORPORATION OF DELAWARE CORPORATION AND LOCATED AT 870 GOODLETTE FRANK. MORE FULLY DESCRIBED HEREIN AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. APPLICANT. TO ALL THOSE INTENDING TO TESTIFY. IF YOU COULD PLEASE STAND AND RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU'RE ABOUT TO GIVE IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? YES, I DO. THANK YOU. OKAY. PLEASE PROCEED. INTEREST. DISCLOSURE. PARDON? OH, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. YES. YEAH. ANY CONFLICTS OR DISCLOSURES FAMILIAR WITH THE MATERIALS AND THE HISTORY AND THE MANY MEETINGS THAT HAVE GONE ON RELATING TO THIS, BUT NOTHING TO DISCLOSE, NOTHING TO DISCLOSE. NOTHING TO DISCLOSE. 
          NOTHING TO DISCLOSE. FAMILIAR WITH THE LOCATION? NOTHING. IN ADDITION TO DISCLOSE. FAMILIAR WITH THE LOCATION AND NOTHING FURTHER TO DISCLOSE. THANK YOU. I'M SORRY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          CHAIRMAN COUGHLIN AND MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING ADVISORY BOARD, FRANCESCA PASSIDOMO. FOR THE RECORD, OUR FIRM, COLEMAN, YOVANOVITCH AND CASTRO REPRESENTS THE PROJECT CREATOR, AA M NAPLES HOTEL OWNER. HERE WITH ME TODAY ARE THE PROJECT DESIGN PROFESSIONALS AND ENGINEERS TO EXPLAIN THE DETAILS OF THE SITE PLAN PETITION. MARK MCCLAIN, SENIOR PROJECT MANAGER AND NATIONAL DIRECTOR OF THE COMMERCIAL DIVISION OF MHK ARCHITECTURE AND PLANNING. CHRISTIAN ANDREA, LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT AND PRINCIPAL WITH ARCHITECTURAL LAND DESIGN. ANDREW ROTH, PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER AND VICE PRESIDENT OF DAVIDSON ENGINEERING. NORM TREBILCOCK, TRANSPORTATION ENGINEER AND PRESIDENT OF TREBILCOCK 
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CONSULTING SOLUTIONS. AND CHRIS CLAUSSEN, A TEAM MEMBER WITH AAM NAPLES HOTEL OWNER. THIS IS A SITE PLAN PETITION FOR A 290 UNIT HOTEL WITH ON SITE PARKING, LANDSCAPING, A LINEAR PARK AND PATHWAY AND AMENITIES INTERIOR TO THE HOTEL, INCLUDING AN INTERNAL COURTYARD, POOL, FITNESS ROOM AND HOTEL. EXCLUSIVE DINING AS WE WILL SHOW THE PARAMETERS OF THE SITE PLAN REQUIRE NO VARIANCES OR DEVIATIONS. THIS IMAGE ON THE SCREEN DEPICTS THE CLASS OF DESIGN THAT WILL BE THE THEME THROUGHOUT THE SITE. PLAN. PRESENTATION. NOW LET ME ORIENT YOU. ORIENT YOU. PARDON ME TO THE LOCATION. THE PROPERTY IS BORDERED IN RED ON YOUR SCREEN. 
          IT IS EAST OF THE DIVIDED GOODLETTE FRANK ROAD HIGHWAY BETWEEN THE MEDICAL OFFICE COMPLEX KNOWN AS COLONIAL SQUARE TO THE NORTH, AND THE RADIOLOGY REGIONAL CENTER TO THE SOUTH. THE HOTEL IS PART OF A LONG TERM MIXED USE PLANNING PROJECT KNOWN AS THE COMMONS. 
          MANY OF YOU WHO HAVE BEEN IN NAPLES FOR A LONG TIME MAY REMEMBER THE COLLIER ATHLETIC CLUB. IN THE REAR OF THE COMMONS. THE COMMONS IS IMMEDIATELY NORTH OF THE BOUNDARY OF THE COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AREA, WHICH IS DIRECTLY. WELL OH, DIRECTLY SOUTH OF THE BOUNDARY OF THE COMMONS. PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT. THE COMMONS STEMS FROM A UNIQUE PROCEDURAL HISTORY THAT, WITH YOUR INDULGENCE, I WILL PROVIDE TO YOU AS A HISTORICAL CONTEXT FOR THE SITE PLAN PETITION BEFORE YOU TODAY. IF I MAY PROCEED BRIEFLY THROUGH THAT HISTORY. I UNDERSTAND, MR. MAYOR. YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH IT, ARE YOU EXPRESS YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH IT. SOME MEMBERS OF THE BOARD MAY NOT BE. SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO JUST PROVIDE THAT CONTEXT. MAY I PROCEED? YES, PLEASE. THANK YOU. IN 1980, THE COMMONS WAS APPROVED BY COLLIER COUNTY AS A PLANNED UNIT. DEVELOPMENT AND DEVELOPMENT OF REGIONAL IMPACT. SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENTS WERE MADE BY VIRTUE OF THE DEVELOPMENT OF REGIONAL IMPACT, INCLUDING THE SIGNALIZATION AT SEVENTH AVENUE NORTH AND GOODLETTE FRANK ROAD, WHICH WE ARE ALL FAMILIAR WITH TODAY. THE DEVELOPMENT OF REGIONAL IMPACT AND PUD AUTHORIZED PROFESSIONAL OFFICE USES, INCLUDING HOTEL, RETAIL USES AND RESIDENTIAL USES AS A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT. NINE YEARS FOLLOWING ADOPTION IN 1989, THE CITY OF NAPLES ANNEXED THE COMMONS INTO ITS MUNICIPAL BOUNDARY AND CONCURRENTLY ENTERED INTO A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. THE 1989 CITY OF NAPLES DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT FORMS THE PREDICATE FOR THE ANNEXATION RECITING AND I QUOTE. THE CITY ACKNOWLEDGES DEVELOPMENT AUTHORIZED BY THE DEVELOPMENT OF REGIONAL IMPACT AND THE INCORPORATED PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT IS THE PERMITTED DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THE COMMONS. THE CITY AGREED TO, AND AGAIN, I QUOTE, ADOPT A NEW DEVELOPMENT ORDER THAT INCORPORATES ALL RIGHTS AND OBLIGATIONS ESTABLISHED IN THE 1980 DEVELOPMENT OF REGIONAL IMPACT AND THE INCORPORATED PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT. IN 2017, THE CITY DID JUST THAT AND ULTIMATELY RATIFIED THE DEVELOPMENT OF REGIONAL IMPACT AND THE INCORPORATED PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT. THE COMMERCIAL SQUARE FEET, ENTITLEMENTS AND RESIDENTIAL DWELLING UNIT ENTITLEMENTS UNDER THE DEVELOPMENT OF REGIONAL IMPACT ARE REFLECTED ON THE SCREEN. THESE VALUES SIMPLY CAPTURE THE DEVELOPMENT OF REGIONAL IMPACT PARAMETERS RECOGNIZED BY THE CITY FOR ANNEXATION. IN 1989, AS PART OF THE 2017 RESOLUTION, THE CITY ALSO ADOPTED AND IMPOSED A PM PEAK HOUR TRIP CAP FOR THE COMMONS UPON RECOMMENDATION BY STATE AND REGIONAL PLANNING AGENCIES. THE TRIP CAP WAS NOT IMPOSED IN THE ORIGINAL DEVELOPMENT OF REGIONAL IMPACT. THE TRIP CROP WAS AN ADDITIONAL THRESHOLD METRIC REQUIRED BY THE CITY FOR THE MATRIX OF USES IN THE COMMONS. THE DEVELOPMENT OF REGIONAL IMPACT CREATES A MASTER PLAN FOR DEVELOPMENT, REFERRED TO AS MAP H. MAP H HAS REMAINED UNCHANGED SINCE 1980. THERE IS A SINGLE ACCESS POINT TO THE COMMONS, WHICH LOOPS AROUND AN ETERNAL LAKE AND SETS ASIDE PRESERVE LANDS CONTIGUOUS TO THE GORDON RIVER. MAP H ALSO DEMONSTRATES PROXIMITY TO BUS STOPS AT 10TH AVENUE NORTH AND SEVENTH AVENUE NORTH, WHICH REMAIN TODAY. MOST OF THE PARCELS ARE ARE BUILT OR APPROVED FOR DEVELOPMENT, WITH 
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ONLY TRACK 13, EXCUSE ME, ONLY TRACK THREE AND TRACK TEN REMAINING FOR FULL DEVELOPMENT. 
          THE HOTEL IS PLANNED FOR TRACK TWO. BRIEFLY VISITING THE UNDERLYING ZONING DISTRICT. THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED WITHIN THE COMMONS PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT, WHICH AGAIN WAS APPROVED IN 1980. CONTEMPORANEOUSLY WITH THE DEVELOPMENT OF REGIONAL IMPACT. 
          IT REFLECTS THE DEVELOPMENT, USES AND STANDARDS FOR THE COMMONS. THE COMMONS INCLUDES A VARIETY OF USES, INCLUDING HOTEL, PROFESSIONAL AND MEDICAL OFFICE, RETAIL AND RESIDENTIAL THAT INTEGRATE HARMONIOUSLY IN AN INTERNALLY COHERENT MANNER UNDER THE CATEGORY OF PROFESSIONAL OFFICE. HOTEL IS AN EXPRESSLY PERMITTED AND CONTEMPLATED USE WITH APPROVAL OF THE HOTEL, APPROXIMATELY 300,000FT■!S OF PROFESSIONAL OFFICE USE WILL REMAIN, HOWEVER, SUBJECT TO THE TRIP CAP ADOPTED BY THE CITY IN 2017. THE PUD ESTABLISHES CERTAIN STANDARDS OF DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THE COMMONS. MR. MCLEAN WILL DEMONSTRATE SITE PLANNING CONSISTENT WITH THESE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS. YOU WILL SEE AS PART OF THAT PRESENTATION THAT PARKING IS ACCOMMODATED WITHIN THE BUILDING, AS SHOWN IN THE COMMONS PUD SITE ELEVATION SHOWN ON THE SCREEN. THIS ALLOWS FOR A REDUCTION IN SURFACE LEVEL PARKING AND AS MR. ANDREA WILL SHOW, AN OPENING FOR LINEAR PARK AND GREENSPACE FRONTING GOODLETTE FRANK ROAD. AS FURTHER HIGHLIGHTED ON YOUR SCREEN, THE 1980 PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT OUTLINES THE PROCESS FOR SITE PLAN APPROVAL. THE PUD PREDATES THE PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS ACTIVATED BY THE CITY OF NAPLES IN 2008. HOWEVER, THE IMPORTANT CONSIDERATION FOR OUR TEAM IS TO DEMONSTRATE THE HOTEL IS CONSISTENT WITH THE SITE PLAN CRITERIA, WHICH THE EXPERTS WILL TESTIFY AS THE CASE, AS SUPPORTED BY YOUR EXPERT STAFF IN THE SITE PLAN SUFFICIENCY LETTER. FOR THAT REASON, WE ELECTED TO PRESENT THE SITE PLAN TO YOU TODAY IN A COMMITMENT TO OPENNESS AND INFORMATION SHARING. IN 2000, THE CITY ADOPTED THE CHARTER AMENDMENT IN AN ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION. AT THAT TIME, THE COMMONS ASKED THE CIRCUIT COURT TO CONFIRM THE RIGHTS UNDER THE DEVELOPMENT OF REGIONAL IMPACT AND PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT WERE NOT IMPACTED. THE COURT DETERMINED, BASED ON MULTIPLE LEGAL PRECEDENTS, INCLUDING THE THEORY OF EQUITABLE ESTOPPEL, THAT THE COMMONS PROJECT ENTITLEMENTS, INCLUDING HEIGHT, ARE VESTED. THIS DETERMINATION WAS FURTHER RATIFIED ON APPEAL. 
          WE SPENT TIME WALKING THROUGH THE HISTORY AND ENTITLEMENTS TO FRAME THE PRINCIPLES THAT WERE COMPREHENSIVELY ADOPTED, ACKNOWLEDGED AND RATIFIED BY THE CITY OF NAPLES AND FURTHER CONFIRMED BY THE COURT ORDER. OVER THE COURSE OF DECADES AS AN INTRODUCTION TO THE SITE PLAN PRESENTATION ITSELF. AS I TRANSITION TO THE SITE PLAN AND THE TEAM THAT WILL DESCRIBE THE SITE PLAN, I WANTED TO REORIENT OR REORIENT YOU TO THE BUILT CONTEXT, INCLUDING SURROUNDING USES, ACCESS AND EXISTING MATURE VEGETATION. THIS IS A VIEW LOOKING EAST FROM A PARK FROM APPROXIMATELY THE INTERSECTION SIGNALIZED INTERSECTION OF SEVENTH AVENUE NORTH. THE SITE WAS CAREFULLY DESIGNED. THE ACCESS IS INTERNAL FROM THE COMMONS, GUIDING TRAFFIC THROUGH A PERVIOUS PAVER SYSTEM TO THE PORTE COCHERE ENTRY. MR. ANDREA WILL DESCRIBE TO YOU THE PREVIOUS PAVER SYSTEM THAT WAS A COMMITMENT MADE THROUGH THE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD, HOTEL, OUTDOOR AMENITIES AND REFUSE COLLECTION. FACE EAST INTERNAL TO THE COMMONS. THE HOTEL IS INTERCONNECTED TO A PLAN, MEANDERING INTERNAL PATHWAY AND EXTERNAL SIDEWALK SYSTEM. AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE SCREEN, THE SITE DESIGN IS A RESULT OF A COLLABORATION WITH RESIDENTS ACROSS GOODLETTE FRANK ROAD, AS WELL AS RECOMMENDATIONS BY STAFF AND THE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD. THE STAFF REPORT DETAILS HOW THE SITE DESIGN HAS EVOLVED WITH COMMUNITY INPUT. FINALLY, WE ARE IN AGREEMENT WITH STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS AS OUTLINED IN THE STAFF REPORT. HAVING LAID A FOUNDATION UNLESS THERE ARE 
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INITIAL QUESTIONS, MR. MCLEAN WILL NOW GUIDE YOU THROUGH THE BUILDING AND ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN DETAILS OF THE PROJECT. JUST ONE QUESTION. THIS IS FOWLER. WILL SOMEONE COVER THE THE LANDSCAPING IN ONE OF THE SUBSEQUENT SESSIONS? YES, SIR. MR. SO IN TERMS OF OUR PROCESS, IF IT IS THE WILL OF THE BOARD, MR. MCLEAN WILL BRIEFLY DESCRIBE THE ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN. MR. ANDREA WILL GO INTO THE LANDSCAPING DESIGN. MR. RATH WILL BRIEFLY DESCRIBE THE CIVIL ENGINEERING ASPECT AND WE'LL CLOSE WITH MR. TRAVEL TO JUST DESCRIBE THE THE TRIP STUDIES THAT WERE CONDUCTED. THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING FOR THE RECORD. MARK MCLEAN NATIONAL DIRECTOR MHK ARCHITECTURE 2059 TAMIAMI TRAIL EAST. FOR THE RECORD, I HAVE WITH ME TODAY MATTHEW ALLEN. HE'S A SENIOR ARCHITECT AND PROJECT MANAGER FOR THE PROJECT. AND KELLY DALE HAGAN, WHO IS OUR PROJECT ARCHITECT, WHO'S IN CHARGE OF THE PROJECT, AS MENTIONED BY FRANCESCA AND HER PRESENTATION, THE PLANNED HOTEL HAS 290 UNITS, WHICH WE HAVE PROVIDED 290 PARKING SPACES FOR. THOSE ARE ON. THE MAJORITY OF THE PARKING IS ON THE GROUND, TWO FLOORS OF THE OF THE PROJECT. SO WE GOT A TWO STORY PARKING GARAGE WITH A SIX STORY HOTEL ABOVE IT. THE THIRD FLOOR OF THE HOTEL IS DEDICATED TO THE THE AMENITIES THAT YOU WOULD NORMALLY HAVE WITHIN A HOTEL. SO AGAIN, THE ORIENTATION FRANCESCA'S ALREADY SET YOU ON THAT. WE'LL START WITH THE SITE PLAN AND A LITTLE BIT OF THE ORIENTATION OF THE BUILDING. SO WE'VE SET THE BUILDING TO THE EAST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY, WHICH IS AS FAR AWAY FROM GOODLETTE AS WE CAN POTENTIALLY SET IT. AND THERE'S REASONS FOR THAT THAT I'LL GET INTO THROUGH MY PRESENTATION HERE. ALL OF THE BUILDING SETBACKS IN THIS PUD ARE SUBJECT TO HEIGHT OF SURROUNDING BUILDINGS. SO I'LL GET INTO THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE AS WE MOVE INTO THE PRESENTATION. SO AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THIS SITE, PLAN ON THE GROUND FLOOR OF THE PROJECT, WE ARE PARKING UNDERNEATH THE BUILDING. SO IF SOMEONE WAS COMING TO THE HOTEL, THEY COME OFF OF THE INTERSECTION ON GOODLETTE AT THE LIGHT, THEY COME INTO THE COMMONS AND THEY'LL COME TO THE BACKSIDE OF THE HOTEL. SO AS THEY COME AROUND TO THE BACK SIDE, THE ENTRY IS THIS SHADED AREA. SO THAT'S PART OF THE REASON WE DID THE PERVIOUS PAVERS TO SET UP A DESIGNATOR TO FOLKS THAT THIS IS THE WAY INTO THE PROJECT. SO AS FRANCESCA DESCRIBED, WE WENT THROUGH A LOT OF SITING OPPORTUNITIES FOR THIS. WHAT'S THE BEST WAY TO DO THIS? WE WORKED WITH THE STATE AND WITH DEP TO SEE IF WE COULD PUT AN ACCESS OFF OF GOODLETTE FRANK, AND THEY WOULD NOT ALLOW IT. WE HAD TO STAY FROM WITH INSIDE THE COMMONS, SO THAT'S WHY WE SET IT UP THE WAY WE HAVE. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WANTED TO DO WAS TO PRESENT A BUILDING TO GOODLETTE. THAT'S THE FRONT. THAT'S WHAT EVERYBODY WOULD THINK IS THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING. SO THAT'S WHY WE ORIENTED THE BUILDING THE WAY IT IS. AS THE PRESENTATION TO THE FRONT. I'LL GET INTO THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE AS WE MOVE INTO THIS PRESENTATION. SO ONE OF THE MAJOR ITEMS WE HAD TO CONTEND WITH IS THIS AREA IS THE BACK OF HOUSE. RIGHT. THIS IS WHERE DELIVERIES WILL COME TO THE HOTEL. THIS IS WHERE IF THERE'S ANY LAUNDRY DELIVERIES, FURNITURE DELIVERIES, ANYTHING AS WE'RE BUILDING THE BUILDING OR ANYTHING, JUST THE DAILY OPERATION OF A HOTEL WILL COME IN THE BACK OF HOUSE. BUT THAT'S THE PRIMARY AREA WHERE WE'RE BRINGING OUR GUESTS IN. SO WE'VE TREATED THAT VERY WELL. 
          AND I'LL COVER THAT IN SOME RENDERINGS SO YOU CAN SEE THAT AS A GUEST WOULD ARRIVE, THEY PULL IN, THEY COME AROUND THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE TO THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING, TO THE PORTICO. 
          SHARE. THEY CAN DROP OFF, COME IN, THEY CAN GO AND PARK. ONCE THEY CHECK IN, THEY CAN PARK IN THE BUILDING OR PARK OUTSIDE IN THE PARKING LOT. AS YOU MOVE UP THROUGH THE BUILDING, THERE'S A SECOND FLOOR PARKING PLAN THAT IS ALSO CONNECTED TO A LOBBY, SO THERE'S A GROUND FLOOR LOBBY. 
          WALK IN AND GET AN ELEVATOR. OR IF YOU'RE PARKING ON THE SECOND FLOOR, YOU CAN WALK IN AND GET TO AN ELEVATOR, WHICH WILL ULTIMATELY BRING YOU UP TO THIS THIRD FLOOR. SO THE THIRD FLOOR IS THE AMENITY SECTION OF THE BUILDING. SO AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE IS FITNESS. THERE'S CONFERENCE ROOMS, THERE'S A RESTAURANT WITHIN THERE WHICH IS THE HOTEL RESTAURANT. ALL OF THE HOTEL AMENITIES ARE ON THIS FLOOR. THERE'S A BREAK ROOM FOR EMPLOYEES, THE CHECK IN. SO ANYTHING THAT WOULD BE ASSOCIATED WITH THE HOTEL IS ON THIS THIRD FLOOR. WE SHOW THE POOL ON THIS THIRD FLOOR, BUT IT'S ALMOST LIKE AN INTERMEDIATE LEVEL. WE'LL CALL IT A FLOOR AND A HALF. IT'S ABOVE THE SECOND FLOOR OF THE GARAGE, BUT IT'S BELOW THIS THIRD FLOOR. SO IF YOU WERE A GUEST AT THE HOTEL AND YOU CAME DOWN TO GO TO THE POOL, YOU WOULD COME OFF OF THE ELEVATOR, COME OUT THROUGH THE LOBBY, YOU WOULD HAVE THIS COURTYARD THAT'S INTERNAL TO THE BUILDING. YOU'D WALK THROUGH THE COURTYARD OUT AND DOWN THE RAMP TO THE POOL DECK, WHICH IS ABOUT A HALF A STORY RAMP. SO WE'LL GET INTO THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE IN THE ELEVATIONS, TOO. SO THAT'S THE LAYOUT OR THE LAY OF THE HOTEL. AS WE MOVE UP THROUGH THE HOTEL, YOU CAN SEE IT. IT'S A C SHAPED HOTEL AND THE UNITS ARE AROUND THE PERIMETER ON FLOORS FOUR THROUGH EIGHT. ONCE WE GET TO THE ROOF PLAN OF THE BUILDING, THAT JUST SHOWS THAT WE'RE SCREENING ALL THE MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT AND EVERYTHING IS BLOCKED FROM THE STREET OR FROM FROM VIEWS. THIS IS ONE OF THE KEY ELEMENTS TO SETTING UP THE BUILDING AS FAR AS SETBACKS GO. WHEN WE GO TO BUILDING SETBACKS AND I SHOULD POP BACK TO THE 
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SITE, PLAN TO GO THROUGH THIS WITH YOU. WHEN WE TALK ABOUT BUILDING SETBACKS AND HOW THE BUILDING SETBACKS ARE DETERMINED WITHIN THE PUD, THERE'S A THERE'S AN UNLIMITED HEIGHT THAT WE COULD DO IN THIS BUILDING. SO IF WE REDUCED OUR FOOTPRINT, OUR CURRENT BUILDING IS JUST UNDER 200 BY 200. IF WE REDUCED OUR FOOTPRINT DOWN TO, SAY, A 50 BY 50 BUILDING, WE WOULD HAVE UNLIMITED HEIGHT. THERE'S NO HEIGHT RESTRICTIONS WITHIN THE PUD. WE CAN GO AS TALL AS WE WANT, FLOOR TO FLOOR, WHERE THE HEIGHT RESTRICTIONS START KICKING IN IN THIS PUD ARE IN LOT COVERAGE. SO ONCE WE DETERMINE THE AMOUNT OF LOT COVERAGE WE WANTED AND THERE'S A THERE'S A ORDINANCE IN THE CITY THAT SAYS OUR BUILDINGS CAN NEVER BE BIGGER THAN 200 BY 200. SO ONCE WE SET OUR BUILDING FOOTPRINT AT 200 BY 200, THAT ESTABLISHES OUR LOT COVERAGE AT 20%. SO ONCE WE HAVE A 20% LOT COVERAGE, NOW OUR BUILDING HEIGHT IS DICTATED OFF OF THAT LOT COVERAGE, WHICH ALLOWS US 80FT ABOVE THE PARKING LEVEL. SO THAT'S HOW WE ESTABLISH THAT HEIGHT. AND THAT'S ALL SPELLED OUT ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THIS PAGE. IF YOU WANT TO GET DEEP INTO THE ZONING CODE FROM THAT, WHAT THE IMAGE ON THE LEFT IS SHOWING YOU IS THAT THE WEIGHT BUILDING SETBACKS ARE DESIGNATED, AS YOU KNOW, TO THE SOUTH OF OUR BUILDING, THERE'S AN EXISTING FIVE STORY MEDICAL OFFICE BUILDING THERE. WE HAVE TO TAKE THE HEIGHT OF OUR BUILDING, THE HEIGHT OF THAT BUILDING, ADD THE TWO TOGETHER, DIVIDE BY TWO, AND THAT GIVES THE SEPARATION BETWEEN THESE TWO BUILDINGS AS THIS THIS SOUTH SETBACK. SO THE SOUTH SETBACK REQUIREMENT IN HERE IS THE 70FT FOR OUR BUILDING, THE 50FT FOR THE ADJACENT BUILDING DIVIDED BY TWO GIVES US A REQUIRED 60 FOOT SETBACK. BUT WE'VE SET OUR BUILDING 81FT AWAY FROM THE OTHER ONE. SO WE'VE EVEN EXCEEDED THE SETBACK REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE REQUIRED FOR THE BUILDING ON THE NORTH SIDE. THE NORTH SIDE OF THIS PROPERTY IS THE PUD BOUNDARY. SO THE OLD CASTLE BANK THAT USED TO BE THERE, THAT'S NOW A VACANT LOT THAT'S NOT IN THE PUD. SO THAT'S HAS ITS OWN PUD, BUT IT'S NOT PART OF THE COMMONS PUD. SO OUR BOUNDARY ON THE NORTH END IS BASICALLY HALF THE HEIGHT OF OUR BUILDING. SO THAT'S WHAT ESTABLISHES OUR SETBACK. SO AGAIN THE NORTH SIDE SETBACK IS 35FT. BUT WE HAVE OUR BUILDING PLACED AT 47FT. SO AGAIN WE'RE EXCEEDING THE SETBACK. SO NOW LET ME GO BACK FORWARD TO WHERE I WAS ON THE FRONT SETBACK. THIS IS WHERE IT GETS INTERESTING. 
          GOODLETTE FRANK HAS A COUNTY OVERLAY DISTRICT ON IT THAT SAYS YOU HAVE TO CREATE A V-SHAPE, A V SHAPED SETBACK OFF OF GOODLETTE FRANK ROAD. SO FOR EACH STORE, THE FIRST FRONT SETBACK IS 50FT. FOR EACH STORY OF HEIGHT YOU ADD OVER 50FT, YOU HAVE TO ADD A 25 FOOT SETBACK. SO THAT'S WHY WE'VE SET THIS BUILDING BACK 225FT FROM GOODLETTE FRANK. BECAUSE WE HAD AN INITIAL 50 FOOT SETBACK AND THEN 25FT FOR EACH FLOOR AT A 1 TO 2 RATIO. SO THAT'S WHY THE BUILDING IS SET BACK 250FT FROM GOODLETTE FRANK ROAD. THESE ELEVATIONS ARE SET UP JUST TO SHOW DIFFERENT COLOR AND PRIMARY MATERIALS. WE WON'T WASTE A LOT OF TIME HERE, BUT IT SHOWS ALL THE OVERALL BUILDING HEIGHTS AND HOW EVERYTHING IS COORDINATED WITHIN THE BUILDING. THIS IS ALL JUST SUBMITTED AS PART OF THE REQUIREMENTS, THE BUILDING SECTIONS THAT SHOW HOW EVERYTHING WORKS WITHIN THE BUILDING. AS WE GET TO THE ELEVATIONS AND RENDERINGS OF THE BUILDING. IF YOU WERE IN THE PARKING LOT ON THE ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE BUILDING, THIS WOULD BE THE ONCE YOU PULL IN AND PARK, THIS WOULD BE YOUR PRESENCE AS YOU'RE WALKING TO THE BUILDING. THIS IS THE WEST ELEVATION OF THE BUILDING. THIS IS WHAT FACES GOODLETTE FRANK. SO THIS IS WHAT PEOPLE WILL POTENTIALLY SEE FROM GOODLETTE. 
          FRANK I GOT ANOTHER SLIDE IN HERE THAT SHOWS YOU WHAT THEY'LL ACTUALLY SEE FROM GOODLETTE. FRANK SO IF YOU'RE IN THE PARKING LOT AND YOU'RE MEANDERING AROUND, THIS IS THE HOTEL THAT'S HERE. SO WE'VE KEPT THINGS VERY SUBTLE. TWO TONE COLOR PALETTE TO KEEP THINGS VERY SIMPLE WITH THE HOTEL. DIDN'T WANT TO OVER, OVER DOMINATE THE COMMUNITY. SO AS YOU CAN SEE, YOU PULL IN, DROP OFF AT THE PORTICO SHARE. GO IN, CHECK INTO THE HOTEL. 
          THIS THIRD FLOOR AREA HERE IS THAT AMENITIES LEVEL. YOU COULD GO ON UP. THEY COULD TELL YOU, YOU KNOW, HERE'S YOUR PARKING PASS. YOU PARK IN THE GARAGE, OR YOU CAN PARK OUT IN THE PARKING LOT, AND THEN YOU COME BACK DOWN AND PARK YOUR CAR AS WE MOVE AROUND TO THE NORTHWEST. 
          AS YOU CAN SEE, YOU CAN DRIVE AROUND THE BUILDING. THERE'S A RAMP ON THE OUTSIDE OF THIS BUILDING THAT GETS YOU INTO THE SECOND FLOOR PARKING GARAGE. AT THE FIRST FLOOR IS IS FULL, BUT YOU CAN SEE WE'VE LANDSCAPED THIS AND MASKED THIS VERY WELL TOO. SO YOU BARELY EVEN KNOW THAT THAT PARKING RAMP IS ON THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING. THIS IS WHERE I STARTED THE PRESENTATION ON THE REAR OF THE BUILDING. SO IF YOU PULL IN OFF OF OFF OF GOODLETTE, YOU DRIVE AROUND THE BACK OF THE COMMUNITY. THIS WILL BE THE ENTRANCE INTO THE HOTEL. SO AS YOU CAN SEE, WE'VE BUILT A RETAINING WALL BACK HERE THAT ALL THE BACK OF HOUSES BEHIND HERE, WE'VE SET THAT AT THE HEIGHT OF A SEMI TRACTOR TRAILER. SO IF A TRACTOR TRAILER IS MAKING DELIVERIES IN THERE, IT'S BEHIND THE WALL. YOU WOULD NOT EVEN KNOW IT WAS THERE. SO AS OUR GUESTS ARRIVE, YOU GOT TO YOU GOT TO REMEMBER IT'S OUR PRIORITY TO MAKE OUR GUESTS EXPERIENCE A GREAT EXPERIENCE, EVEN MORE SO THAN WHAT WOULD BE REQUIRED BY THE COMMUNITY, BECAUSE TECHNICALLY WE COULD HAVE BACK OF HOUSE THERE AND HAVE A TRASH CAN AND A SEMI TRUCK SITTING OUT THERE, AND THAT WOULDN'T BE VERY APPEALING TO OUR GUESTS. SO 
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WE'VE PUT A LOT OF TIME AND EFFORT IN MAKING SURE WE'RE SCREENING THIS BACK OF HOUSE PROPERLY. NICE GATES, NICE LANDSCAPING. THAT'LL GET A NICE FOUNTAIN FEATURE BACK HERE. 
          THAT'LL GET A GUEST IN. THEY'LL DRIVE AROUND TO THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING, AND THAT EXPERIENCE ON THE BACK OF HOUSE WILL BE A DISTANT MEMORY BEFORE THEY EVEN REALIZED IT HAPPENED AGAIN. THIS IS JUST A FURTHER EAST SIGHT LOOKING FROM THE EAST NOW BEHIND HERE. WHAT? THE REASON WE HAVE SOME OF THESE LONG PALMS AND EVERYTHING IN HERE IS NOT ONLY TO MASK THAT BACK OF HOUSE, BUT ALSO THAT BECOMES PART OF THE LANDSCAPE FEATURES OF THE POOL DECK, WHICH CHRISTIAN WILL GET TO IN HIS PRESENTATION. SO AS WE BACK OUT AND START LOOKING AT THIS IN AN AERIAL PERSPECTIVE, I WAS SPEAKING THE OLD THE OLD BANK SITE OVER HERE. THAT'S ALL VACANT LAND NOW, BUT NOT PART OF THE PUD. THIS IS THE ADJACENT FIVE STORY BUILDING THAT IS ADJACENT TO US. NOW, AS WE START MOVING AROUND TO THE EAST SIDE, LOOKING BACK WEST, THIS IS THE FIRST GLIMPSE YOU GET OF THE ELEVATED POOL DECK THAT'S BACK HERE. SO YOU CAN SEE YOU COME OFF THE INTERIOR COURTYARD DOWN ONTO THE POOL DECK. AND THE POOL DECK IS AN AMENITY BACK HERE ALL TO ITSELF THAT'S SEPARATED FROM THE HOTEL AGAIN. HERE'S THE RAMP. WE SHOWED YOU THIS VIEW SO WE COULD SHOW YOU THE RAMP UP INTO THE SECOND FLOOR OF THE HOTEL, OR INTO THE SECOND FLOOR OF THE HOTEL PARKING. AND AS WE MOVE AROUND TO THE POOL DECK, THAT'S THE POOL DECK. YOU CAN SEE YOU'D COME OFF OF THE INTERIOR AMENITY, WALK THROUGH THE COURTYARD AND DOWN THE RAMP TO A FLIGHT OF STAIRS, OR YOU CAN CONTINUE FROM AN ADA ASPECT ALL THE WAY DOWN THE RAMP TO THE POOL DECK. AND THEN THERE'S AN EMERGENCY EGRESS OFF THE BACK OF THE PULLBACK BACK HERE. SO THIS IS ELEVATED A STORY AND A HALF WHICH AGAIN ALLOWS US TO TEAR UP THE LANDSCAPING, REALLY CONCEAL THIS PORTION AND CREATE A PRIVATE AMENITY FOR THE HOTEL GUESTS. IF THEY'RE OUT THERE ALL THE PALM HEADS ARE UP ABOVE THE WALL. AND THEY'RE REALLY FEEL LIKE THEY'RE IN A REALLY TROPICAL AREA THAT'S REALLY IN THE BACK OF HOUSE OF THE HOTEL. 
          SO WE'VE WORKED REALLY HARD IN MAKING THAT EXPRESSION. THIS IS A VIEW FROM IN THE COURTYARD. 
          SO I MENTIONED THE C SHAPED BUILDING THAT YOU CHECK INTO THE AMENITY YOU COME DOWN. THIS IS THE C SHAPED PORTION OF THE AMENITY WITHIN THE HOTEL. SO YOU COME OUT HERE, YOU CAN HAVE A DRINK IN THE EVENING. THERE'S SOME WATER FEATURES, SOME FIRE BOWLS, JUST A NICE AMENITY FOR THE HOTEL GUESTS. AGAIN, JUST AN AMENITY SHOT FROM THE POOL DECK AND WHAT THE POOL LOOKS LIKE. AND THEN I'LL END WITH THE SLIDE FROM THE WALKWAY ON THE WEST SIDE OF GOODLETTE. 
          FRANK. SO WHEN WE MET WITH THE COMMUNITY AND WE WENT THROUGH ALL OF THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATIONS, THEY REALLY WANTED TO SEE WHAT THIS BUILDING WAS GOING TO LOOK LIKE FROM GOODLETTE. SO THE TREES THAT ARE IN HERE MAY NOT BE 100% ACCURATE, BUT THE EXISTING OAKS THAT ARE THERE, WE'RE LEAVING THEM THERE. WE DON'T WANT TO TAKE OUT ANY OF THOSE FULL GROWTH, MATURE OAKS. AND BECAUSE OUR BUILDINGS SO FAR AWAY, THEY WON'T GET DAMAGED DURING CONSTRUCTION. SO WE'RE GOING TO LEAVE ALL THESE EXISTING BIG OAKS IN HERE. AND IF YOU WERE WALKING DOWN THE SIDEWALK ON THE WEST SIDE OF GOODLETTE FRANK AND LOOK BACK, THIS IS THE PERSPECTIVE THAT YOU WOULD HAVE OF OUR BUILDING. I HAVE SOME OTHER DOCUMENTATION IN HERE THAT'S REQUIRED FOR OTHER SUBMITTALS THAT WE'RE DOING WITH THE CITY AS FAR AS LIGHTING AND LIGHTING SPECIFICATIONS, BUT I'LL SKIP THROUGH THOSE AND WE'LL TURN THIS OVER TO CHRISTIAN FOR LANDSCAPE PLANS. I'M AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS. GOOD MORNING, CHRISTIAN ANDREA, LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT WITH ARCHITECTURAL AND DESIGN. WE HAVE A BUNCH OF SLIDES IN HERE, AND I'LL JUST PICK THE ONES THAT MAKE SENSE FOR PRESENTATION. AND I'M HAPPY TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT ANYTHING IN DETAIL IF YOU'D LIKE. THIS IS THE EXISTING SITE SHOWS THE PERIMETER TREES JUST TO CORRECT MARK. THESE ARE MAHOGANY TREES ALONG THE WEST SIDE. NOT NOT OAK TREES. THE OAK TREES ARE ACTUALLY ALONG THE NORTH PROPERTY LINE. SO THE WEST SIDE ARE THOSE MATURE MAHOGANIES THAT YOU SEE AND WE ARE KEEPING THEM. WE FIND THEM VALUABLE AND A GREAT ASSET TO THE CANOPY AND STREETSCAPE AND WHATNOT. SO WE DO OUR BEST TO TRY TO PRESERVE ANY OF THE CANOPY TREES WHENEVER WE CAN. ALONG THE NORTH PROPERTY LINE IS ALSO SOME MORE OAK TREES THAT ARE BEING RETAINED INTERNALLY TO THE SITE. THERE'S A HANDFUL OF CABBAGE PALMS THAT ARE GOING TO BE REMOVED, AND THAT'S PART OF THE SITE DEVELOPMENT. AND ALONG THE SOUTH, WE ALSO HAVE SOME MORE MAHOGANY TREES HERE AS WELL THAT ARE BEING RETAINED. 
          THERE'S THE AERIAL OVERLAY SO YOU CAN SEE WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE. AND THEN THIS IS OUR HARDSCAPE PLAN THAT DEPICTS PRETTY MUCH THE MASTER SITE CONDITIONS WITH MINIMAL LANDSCAPES SHOWN. THIS SHOWS THE EXISTING TREES THAT ARE BEING RETAINED BY WALK AROUND STARTING IN THE NORTHWEST CORNER. THIS IS AN INTERNAL SIDEWALK SYSTEM THAT RUNS THROUGH THE LINEAR PARK. 
          CONNECTS ON AXIS WITH THE BUILDING THROUGH THE PARKING LOT. IT IS A STRONG FOCAL POINT TO OUR DESIGN, AS WILL EVOLVE INTO PRESENTATION AND THEN A CURVING, LINEAR OR CURVY PATH THAT LEADS THROUGH THE LINEAR PARK BACK TO GOODLETTE FRANK. SO THIS AREA HERE IS ALL AVAILABLE TO PASSERBY'S AND PEOPLE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. WE HAVE A SMALL DETENTION BASIN IN THE NORTHWEST CORNER, AND ALSO ONE IN THE SOUTHEAST CORNER THAT WE'VE LANDSCAPED AND SCREENED I THINK QUITE WELL. WE HAVE A SIGNAGE ELEMENT JUST RIGHT HERE IN THE SOUTH MIDDLE SECTION OF THE WEST PROPERTY LINE. AND THEN OUR PRIMARY ENTRY FEATURE IS ALONG THE SOUTHEAST CORNER. SO THERE'S A SIGNAGE ELEMENT THERE. THESE WHITE CIRCLES AND RECTANGLES ARE PLANTERS ON KIND OF A DECORATIVE PLINTH. SO THERE'S KIND OF AN ARCHITECTURAL ELEMENT THAT WE USE TO CREATE A LITTLE MORE INTEREST ACROSS THE EAST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY. THE COLORED BEIGE MATERIAL HERE IS A PERMEABLE PAVER THAT'S MEANT FOR WATER MANAGEMENT AND TO 
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REDUCE RUNOFF. AND THEN ALSO IN THE NORTH CORNER, A SIMILAR EFFECT. AND THE NORTH PARKING PARALLEL PARKING AREA. THIS IS A GRASS KIND OF PARKING ENVIRONMENT. SO ALSO AGAIN A MORE PERMEABLE NATURE. I THINK THAT PRETTY MUCH ADDRESSES THE OVERVIEW. THESE ARE JUST ENLARGEMENTS. SO IF WE NEED TO COME BACK AND LOOK AT ANYTHING IN SPECIFICITY, WE CAN DO THAT. 
          I'LL COME BACK LATER ON. ANOTHER SLIDE TO LOOK AT THE POOL A LITTLE BIT MORE IN DETAIL. SOUTHWEST CORNER. THESE ARE AGAIN ENLARGEMENTS OF THE CIRCULATION AND SIDEWALKS AND WHATNOT. POOL DECK APOLOGIZE. THE SLIDES A LITTLE DISTORTED IN THE SCAN, SO IT'S NOT QUITE AS WIDE AS IT IS TALL. BUT THIS IS A LAGOON STYLE FREE FORM POOL. WE HAVE PLANTERS THAT ARE SET IN HERE. THE PERIMETER IS ALL LUSHLY LANDSCAPED, AND WE'LL SEE THAT ON THE LANDSCAPE PLAN. THE COURTYARD THAT THE MARK SHARED WITH US, THE THE PERSPECTIVES I THOUGHT DID QUITE A NICE REPRESENTATION OF THEM. SO THERE'S A WATER FEATURE IN THERE FOR SOME WHITE NOISE. AND THEN AGAIN, PLANTERS SCATTERED THROUGHOUT THE SPACE. AGAIN, ENLARGEMENTS, ENLARGEMENTS AND AGAIN A LOOK AT THE PLANTING PLAN MORE IN DETAIL. THIS IS AN OVERVIEW OF THE PLANTING AT GROUND LEVEL. AGAIN THE PERIMETER MAHOGANY TREES. WE HAVE A SERIES OF COCONUT PALMS FLANKING THE PARKING LOT HERE. ALSO FLANKING THE CORNERS. THE CENTER CORE IS A SPECIMEN DATE PALM LA, SO THERE IS A GOOD 2468. THAT IS AS YOU WALK THROUGH, THAT'LL MAKE A VERY STRONG FOCAL POINT THROUGH THE CENTER. THESE ARE OAK TREES TO CREATE SOME MORE CANOPY WITHIN THE PARKING LOT. AND THEN WE HAVE ROYAL PALMS FLANKING THE DROP OFF AREA. AND ALONG THE SOUTH PROPERTY LINE WE HAVE GREEN BUTTONWOOD TREES, WHICH ARE KIND OF A MEDIUM CANOPY. THEY DON'T GET TERRIBLY BIG, BUT THEY'RE A COMFORTABLE SIZE. AND THEN GUMBO LIMBO FOR A LITTLE MORE VARIETY. SO THE PLANT PALETTE ITSELF IS PRETTY DIVERSE. SO WE'VE PROVIDED A LOT MORE INTEREST AND SEASONALITY. AND WE HAVE SOME FLOWERING TREES OF THE WOODS THAT FLOWER YELLOW. AND THEN ALONG THE POOL ELEVATED ELEVATED POOL DECK. THESE ARE CABBAGE PALMS TO GAIN SOME HEIGHT. THERE'S A BIG CLUSIA HEDGE UNDERNEATH THERE TO SCREEN THE WALLS. ROYAL PALMS THAT ARE FLANKED THROUGH THERE AS WELL. AND THEN ON THE EAST AND NORTH SIDES OF THIS RAISED POOL DECK, WE'RE COVERING THE WALLS WITH VINES, CONFEDERATE JASMINE, SO IT'LL BE COMPLETELY CONCEAL THE WALLS, ALONG WITH THE HEDGE THAT WRAPS AROUND THE PERIMETER. THESE ARE ENLARGEMENTS. THIS IS THE NORTHWEST CORNER AGAIN, HAPPY TO GO THROUGH IN DETAIL. WE HAVE A A HEDGE THAT CREATES A LITTLE SEPARATION BETWEEN GOODLETTE AND THE LINEAR PARK. THE LINEAR PARK IS ALL THE SPACE INTERNALLY HERE. THIS IS THE WATER MANAGEMENT AREA HERE THAT WE'VE LANDSCAPED AROUND TO HELP SOFTEN AND SCREEN THE SCREEN. THE THE VISTAS, THE YELLOW PLANTS HERE ARE FLOWERING BEARWOOD TREES WHICH IS A YELLOW FLOWERING TREE. BACK TO THE COCONUT PALMS, THE OAK TREES IN THE PARKING LOT. 
          COCONUTS. THE DATE PALMS I MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY. SPECIMEN BOUGAINVILLEA TREE OR STUMP BOUGAINVILLEA IN THE CENTER AND THEN AGAIN QUITE HEAVILY LANDSCAPED THROUGHOUT. THIS IS THE NORTHEAST CORNER, THE HEDGE, THE VINES ALONG THE PERIMETER. THIS IS A HEDGEROW OF CALOPHYLLUM TREES, WHICH YOU SEE FREQUENTLY DONE, WHICH ARE ABOUT 12 14FT TALL. AND IT'S KIND OF NICKNAME IT A HEDGE ON A STICK WHERE WE CREATE INSTANT CANOPY RIGHT AWAY. THAT WRAPS THE EASTERN BOUNDARY, CABBAGE PALMS AND ROYAL PALMS AGAIN TO THE SOUTH SOUTHWEST CORNER. 
          THERE'S AN OPEN LAWN AREA HERE, THE MEANDERING SIDEWALK THAT GOES THROUGH THERE AGAIN, SEVERAL LAYERS OF PLANT MATERIAL THAT HELPS CREATE SOME SEPARATION FROM GOOD LIT. WE HAVE SOME MORE CANOPY TREES ALONG THE BOTTOM HERE FOR MID LEVEL PRIVACY, THE GUMBO LIMBO TREES HERE, AND THEN THE OAK TREES IN THE PARKING LOT AND THEN THE SOUTHEAST QUADRANT AGAIN. THIS IS THE ENTRY FEATURE. SO WE HAVE THE WATER FEATURE, THOSE PEDESTAL PLINTHS WITH THE POTS IN THEM ARE ROYAL PALMS AND OUR TRAVELER'S PALMS AS A AS A LUSH TROPICAL BACKDROP. SO I THINK IT'LL BE PRETTY DRAMATIC POOL AREA. SO THESE ARE DATE PALMS FLANKING THE POOL AREA AND THE PLANTERS COCONUT PALMS. AND THEN AGAIN, ANOTHER LAYER OF CANOPY TREES. 
          AND WE'RE TRYING TO GET AN ELEVATED TREE TOP EXPERIENCE WITH THE POOL DECKS. ALL THE VEGETATION THERE WILL CREATE A LOT OF PRIVACY, BOTH FROM THE STREET AND FROM WITHIN, AND THEN INTERNAL TO THE COURTYARD. ADDITIONAL DATE PALMS AND PLANTING THROUGHOUT ENLARGEMENT OF THAT INTERNAL COURTYARD. WE'RE PLAYING WITH SOME DECORATIVE PAVEMENT, SO I THINK THAT MAKES IT A FUN SPACE. A LOT MORE INTERESTING THAN A MONO MATERIAL POOL DECK. ALSO ENTERTAINING DIFFERENT PAVING PATTERNS AND DETAILS TO MAKE IT A LITTLE MORE LIVELY. AGAIN LUSHLY LANDSCAPED THROUGHOUT. TO MAXIMIZE PRIVACY. THE PLANT LIST AND HERE ARE SAMPLE PICTURES MOST OF THE PLANT MATERIALS. AGAIN, YOU CAN SEE THE PROPOSED AND LIGHTING PLAN. 
          WE DO HAVE LIGHTS PROPOSED. WE'RE LOOKING AT TWO CHOICES OF LIGHTS. WE'RE TRYING TO PICK A 
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FIXTURE THAT YOU DON'T SEE THE SOURCE OF THE BULB. SO THE BULBS IN A BLADE SO TO SAY. SO WHEN YOU LOOK ACROSS THE PARKING LOT, YOU JUST SEE THE GLOW. BUT YOU WON'T GET THE ILLUMINATION FROM THE FIXTURE ITSELF. SO THERE'S TWO STYLES WE'RE STILL PURSUING. ONE IS THIS ONE HERE ON THE LEFT AND ANOTHER ONE HERE. BUT AGAIN THEY'RE LIKE DISCS WHERE THE WHERE THE LIGHT IS RECESSED IN. AND SO WE HAVE NO SPILLAGE INTO THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES. AND IT'S A NICE LEVEL LIGHTING THROUGHOUT. AND THEN ALSO LOOKING AT BOLLARDS THAT PRIMARILY ARE USED ON THE POOL DECK. AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR IF YOU LIKE, I CAN COME BACK. THANK YOU. WE MAY HAVE QUESTIONS LATER. THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING. ANDREW ROTH WITH DAVIDSON ENGINEERING. I'M THE CIVIL ENGINEER ON THE PROJECT. I, I APOLOGIZE, I ARRIVED A COUPLE OF MINUTES LATE. I NEED TO BE SWORN IN. DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU'RE ABOUT TO GIVE IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? I DO THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING. 
          PLANNING ADVISORY BOARD. I'M JUST GOING TO. START OFF HERE, JUST RUNNING THROUGH A FEW OF THE CIVIL ENGINEERING PLAN SHEETS. LIKE TO START WITH THE SITE PLAN. AS WAS PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED, THE MAIN ACCESS TO THE PROJECT IS OFF OF THE INTERNAL GOODLETTE ROAD, INVITING DRIVERS TO ENTER WHERE THE PERMEABLE PAVERS ARE ON THIS SOUTHERN DRIVEWAY. TAKING YOU UP TO THIS PORTE COCHERE DROP OFF AREA WHERE THEY'VE GOT ACCESS TO THE SURFACE PARKING AS WELL AS THE LOBBY OF THE HOTEL. THEY COULD CONTINUE ON AND THEN HAVE ACCESS TO THE STRUCTURED PARKING WITHIN THE BUILDING ITSELF. THERE IS ALSO A THIS SERVICE DRIVE IN THE REAR, WHICH IS FULLY SCREENED, AS WAS MENTIONED BEFORE. NOW WE'RE WHERE ALL THE BACK OF HOUSE ACTIVITIES WILL OCCUR, SCREENED FROM THE PUBLIC AND GUEST VIEWS. WE'VE ALSO HAVE A THERE'S A SECONDARY OR INTERCONNECTION TO THE NORTH THAT EXISTS TODAY. AND WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO HONOR THAT. THERE'S AN ACCESS EASEMENT ACROSS THAT PROPERTY TO THAT INTERNAL LOOP ROAD. AND WE'VE GOT A COMBINATION OF, YOU KNOW, VARIOUS DIFFERENT TYPES OF PARKING ON THE SURFACE LEVEL, WHICH MAKES UP ABOUT 45% OF THE PARKING PROVIDED. AND WE GOT ABOUT 55% OF THE PARKING PROVIDED WITHIN THE STRUCTURE ITSELF. AS CHRISTIAN ALLUDED TO, WE'VE GOT SOME KIND OF TURF BLOCK OR GRASS BEEF, TWO PARKING SPACES ALONG THE NORTHERN BOUNDARY. BUT OVERALL WE'VE GOT 290 PARKING SPACES REQUIRED. AND PROVIDED, YOU KNOW, IT'S IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE COMP PLAN, WHICH REQUIRES ONE PARKING SPACE PER HOTEL ROOM. THE LDC, THE CITY WOULD REQUIRE 285 PARKING SPACES. WE'RE PROVIDING 290 ON THE CURRENT PLAN HERE, AND LET'S SEE ANYTHING ELSE? YEAH, THE WESTERN PORTION OF THE SITE THAT WAS ALREADY HIT ON IS IS MAINLY GREEN SPACE FOR RECREATING KIND OF A LINEAR PARK THERE. AND LET'S SEE. OOPS. MOVING TO THE STORMWATER DRAINAGE PLAN. THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY UNDEVELOPED. IT IS LOCATED WITHIN THE MASTER SOUTH FLORIDA WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT, ERP. AND PRESENTLY THERE'S NO STORMWATER MANAGEMENT ON SITE. IT'S JUST ALL GREEN SPACE FOR THE MOST PART. WE ARE PROPOSING TO PROVIDE 0.287 ACRE FEET OF WATER QUALITY STORAGE ON SITE. WE'LL GET INTO DISCUSS THAT A LITTLE BIT FURTHER HERE DOWN THE LINE. THE CITY WATER QUALITY REQUIREMENT IS 0.248 ACRE FEET. AND SOUTH FLORIDA WATER MANAGEMENT WATER QUALITY REQUIREMENT IS 0.285 ACRE FEET. SO WE'RE SHOWING THAT WE'RE MEETING BOTH CITY AND STATE REQUIREMENTS HERE. SO THE SYSTEMS WE'RE EMPLOYING ON THE SITE HERE ARE ABOVE GROUND DRY RETENTION AREAS. WE'VE GOT ONE IN THE NORTHEAST, ONE KIND OF NESTLED IN HERE IN BETWEEN THE TWO DRIVEWAYS TO THE EAST. AND THEN WE'VE GOT ONE OUT IN THE GREEN SPACE KIND OF TO THE NORTHWEST OF THE SITE. WITH THAT, WE ALSO HAVE A PERMEABLE PAVER SYSTEM WITH AGGREGATE STORAGE BENEATH THAT. SO THAT KIND OF RUNS ALONG THIS SOUTHERN DRIVE AISLE UP THROUGH THE DROP OFF PORT AREA. AND THEN THAT'S THAT'S PROVIDING THE STORMWATER QUALITY REQUIREMENT. AND THEN ON TOP OF THAT, WE ALSO HAVE SOME 
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PERMEABLE PAVER DRIVE APRONS OUT FRONT. AND THIS IS JUST ABOVE AND BEYOND ANY REQUIREMENT. IT'S JUST ADDITIONAL WATER QUALITY PROVIDED. AND IT'S ALLOWING SOME LESS RUNOFF, ALLOWING THE WATER TO BREAK INTO THE GROUND AT THOSE APRONS. SO FOLLOWING THE ONSITE STORMWATER PRETREATMENT, THE STORMWATER OUTFALLS OF THE MASTER STORMWATER SYSTEM THROUGH THIS CENTER DETENTION AREA HERE. SO FIRST WE HAVE THE ONSITE STORMWATER PRETREATMENT IN THE FORM OF DRY RETENTION AND PERMEABLE PAVERS. SECOND, IT'S FLOWING INTO THE LAKE IN THE CENTER OF THE PROPERTY, WHICH IS THE MASTER WET DETENTION LAKE. AND THEN THIRD, IT FLOWS THROUGH A SPREADER SWALE INTO NATIVE VEGETATION AND THEN ULTIMATELY INTO THE GORDON RIVER. SO YOU'VE GOT A TREATMENT TRAIN OF BMPS GOING ON HERE, WHERE YOU'VE GOT PRETREATMENT ON SITE FLOWING TO THE THE WET DETENTION IN THE LAKE, THEN THAT'S CONTROLLED OUTFALL TO THE SPREADER SWALE, WHICH SCRUBS THE WATER FURTHER BEFORE IT GETS INTO THE GORDON RIVER. OKAY. YES. BEST MANAGEMENT PRACTICES. SO JUST DIFFERENT METHODS BY WHICH TO BASICALLY SCRUB THE STORMWATER BEFORE IT GETS TO THE ULTIMATE OUTFALL. NEXT I'LL JUST RUN YOU THROUGH UTILITIES REAL QUICK. MAYBE NOT. OKAY. ANYWAYS, I CAN SHOW YOU ON THIS PLAN, BUT UTILITIES ARE PRETTY SIMPLE. THERE'S EXISTING CITY UTILITIES SURROUNDING THE PROPERTY. SANITARY SEWER IS GOING OUT TO THE NORTH INTO AN EXISTING SANITARY TEN INCH MAIN. WE'RE GOING TO CONNECT TO AN EXISTING LATERAL CONNECTION THERE. WE'RE SOURCING ALL OF THE POTABLE WATER DOWN FROM THE SOUTHWEST. THERE'S A 12 INCH CITY POTABLE MAIN DOWN HERE, WHICH WE'RE GOING TO CONNECT TO FOR FIRE PROTECTION AND DOMESTIC WATER USE. AND WE'VE GOT A SYSTEM OF FIRE HYDRANTS KIND OF SPREAD AROUND THE PROPERTY HERE TO AID WITH THE FIRE PROTECTION. AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. 
          MY TIME IS THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS NORMAN TREBILCOCK. I'M A PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER, CERTIFIED PLANNER AND PROFESSIONAL TRAFFIC OPERATIONS ENGINEER WITH OVER 36 YEARS OF LOCAL EXPERIENCE. I'VE TESTIFIED BEFORE THE PLANNING BOARD IN THE PAST AS WELL AS CITY COUNCIL. WE PREPARED THE TRAFFIC STUDIES, WHICH YOU ALL HAVE IN MORE DETAIL, WHAT WE CALL SECTION ONE. IT'S A LINK CONCURRENCY ANALYSIS AS WELL AS INTERSECTION ANALYSIS. WE PREPARED AS WELL. AND SO FROM A TRAFFIC STANDPOINT, WE LOOK AT THE DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM OF OF THE PROJECT AS WELL AS THE TRIP GENERATION. THEN WE LOOK AT THE IMPACTS LEVEL OF SERVICE IMPACTS ON THE LOCAL ROAD NETWORK AS WELL, USING THE CITY'S DATA FOR THAT. AND THEN WE DID, BECAUSE OF THE UNIQUE CHARACTERISTICS OF THIS, AS FRANCESCA DISCUSSED, IS THERE IS A PM PEAK HOUR TRIP CAP FOR THE DRY THAT WE JUST VERIFIED THAT WE'RE WELL UNDER AS WELL. 
          AND THEN WE HAVE TRANSPORTATION CONCLUSIONS. SO I'LL JUST KIND OF RUN YOU THROUGH THE OVERVIEW. 
          SO FROM THE DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM, IT LAND USE CODE IS A HOTEL 290 ROOMS. AND SO IN THAT ANALYSIS THE ITE TRIP GENERATION THAT DOES INCLUDE THINGS AS, SUCH AS A AN INTERNAL RESTAURANT, MEETING ROOMS, CONFERENCE AREAS THAT HOTEL MAY TYPICALLY HAVE. AND THAT THAT IS IS WHAT WE WOULD SAY BAKED INTO THE PER ROOM BASIS FOR THIS. AND THE LAND USE CODE WE'RE USING IS A HIGHEST TRIP GENERATOR OF ANY OF THE OTHER LAND USE CODES WE COULD LOOK AT, LIKE A RESORT, HOTEL, ETC. AND THAT WOULD BE A LESSER TRIP GENERATOR. THIS IS A HIGHER. AND SO IT COMES DOWN TO LOOKING AT THE WEEKDAY TRIPS AND PEAK HOUR AND PM PEAK HOUR. AND SO FOR YOUR LEVEL OF SERVICE ANALYSIS THAT THE CITY USES, WE LOOK AT THE PM PEAK HOUR AS WELL AS THAT. THAT'S WHAT THE DRY TRIP CAP IS BASED ON. AND THAT'S 190 1 P.M. PEAK HOUR TRIPS. TWO WAY. IN. 
          LOOKING AT THE LEVEL OF SERVICE ANALYSIS, THE CAPACITY OF THE ROADS. THIS IS BASED ON THE BACKGROUND INFORMATION THAT THE CITY HAS AS WELL. AS WE LOOK AT THE REMAINING CAPACITY LEVEL OF 
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SERVICE. AND WE DO GROW THE TRAFFIC AS WELL. AND NONE OF THOSE ARE EXCEEDED USING THE CITY'S DATA. AND WE DO LOOK AT THE KIND OF BUILD OUT CONDITIONS IN 2027 FOR THE HOTEL AS WELL. AS I MENTIONED IN THE APPROVED DEVELOPMENT, WE LOOKED AT ALL THE APPROVED DEVELOPMENT OR EXISTING DEVELOPMENT THAT IS OUT THERE. YOU KNOW, THERE'S 100 UNITS THAT HAVE RESIDENTIAL UNITS THAT HAVE BEEN APPROVED, AND THEY'RE NOT ALL COMPLETED, BUT WE WE ASSUME THAT THEY ARE FROM LOOKING AT THIS ANALYSIS, AND THEN WE LOOK AT EXISTING BUILDING SPACE OUT THERE, A LOT OF MEDICAL OFFICE, THE ASSISTED LIVING, AND THEN OUR PROPOSED HOTEL, OUR PM PEAK HOUR THAT WE CALCULATE. AND AGAIN THIS IS A CONSERVATIVE. WE DON'T SHOW ANY INTERNAL CAPTURE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT HERE AS WELL. WE'RE SHOWING 790 4 P.M. PEAK HOUR VERSUS THE ALLOWABLE OF 1545 FOR THE DRI THAT WAS APPROVED. SO REALLY, IN CONCLUSION, IT'S NOT CONSIDERED A SIGNIFICANT OR ADVERSE GENERATOR AT THIS LOCATION. WE DON'T PROPOSE ANY EXTERNAL CONNECTIONS. AS WAS MENTIONED. WE USE THE INTERNAL NETWORK THAT'S THERE. WE ALSO ARE RETAINING THE INTERCONNECT TO THE PD TO THE NORTH OF US AS WELL. SO THAT WILL HELP THINGS AS WELL. THERE IS ADEQUATE AND SUFFICIENT CAPACITY OUT THERE. OUR TRIP GENERATION IS LESS THAN WHAT IS ALLOWABLE IN TOTAL. WE ALSO COORDINATED WITH CUYAHOGA COUNTY TRANSPORTATION OPERATIONS. GOODLETTE FRANK ROAD IS A COUNTY ROADWAY FACILITY. AND SO WE WORK WITH THE COUNTY AND ALSO COORDINATE WITH THE CITY TO PLAN TO. THE PRIMARY THING IS AT THAT SIGNALIZED INTERSECTION THAT WHAT WE CALL A SOUTHBOUND LEFT HAND TURN LANE HAS SOMETIMES WHAT WE CALL SPILL BACK ISSUES WITH TRAFFIC SPILLING BACK. AND SO PART OF WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE GOING TO IMPROVE THE Q OF THAT FOR OUR HOTEL, BUT WE'RE ALSO GOING TO IMPROVE THE EXISTING CONDITION. RIGHT NOW THERE'S A WHAT WE CALL A VERY LONG TAPER. IT'S ABOUT 175 FOOT LONG TAPER. WE'RE GOING TO SHORTEN THAT TAPER AND THAT WILL PROVIDE MORE THROUGH QUEUE OF VEHICLES TO QUEUE BACK. SO EFFECTIVELY WE'RE GOING TO LENGTHEN THAT OVERALL TURN LANE. 
          SO WE'RE GOING TO IMPROVE THAT AND EFFECTIVELY CREATE A 375 FOOT LONG TURN LANE THAT WILL IMPROVE CONDITIONS OUT THERE, NOT ONLY ACCOMMODATING US, BUT ACCOMMODATING SOME OF THE BACKGROUND CONDITIONS THAT ARE OUT THERE AS WELL. AND THAT WAS COORDINATED WITH THE COUNTY AND ALSO WITH YOUR CITY STAFF AS WELL. ALSO, JUST OVERALL MITIGATION OF IMPACT IS PAYING THE IMPACT FEES FOR THE PROJECT TO PER PER ROOM AS WELL. SO. WITH THAT, I'LL GO TO A BLUE SCREEN. I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY ANSWER, ANY QUESTIONS, BUT TURN THINGS OVER TO FRANCESCA TO KIND OF CLOSE THINGS OUT. YES, SIR. YEAH. GOOD MORNING. WELCOME, SIR. I HAVE A QUESTION. 
          YOU MENTIONED GOODLETTE FRANK SOUTHBOUND, BUT GOOD FRANK NORTH, WHICH I HAVE HAD THE DISPLEASURE OF USING SEVERAL TIMES RECENTLY. THAT RIGHT HAND TURN, IT'S 90 DEGREE TURN. IT GETS VERY CONGESTED. I SEE A LOT OF TRAFFIC USING WHAT I CALL A RAT RUN. GOING THROUGH THE RADIOLOGY CENTER IN THE NAPLES HEART RHYTHM, AND GUILTY AS CHARGED ON THAT ONE. IT'S BACKED UP. IF I WAS THOSE TWO PROPERTIES I WOULD NOT BE VERY HAPPY WITH THAT. WHY WAS NO CONSIDERATION GIVEN TO EASE THE RIGHT HAND TURN OFF OF GOODLETTE FRANK NORTH? OKAY, A GOOD POINT. SO THAT THAT LOCATION IS ACTUALLY. LET ME SEE. I GET THAT THE MAP. 
          FRANCESCO'S MAP. YOU'RE. WHAT'S THAT THIRD SLIDE. OKAY. THE MAIN REASON THERE IS THAT ACTUALLY IS PART OF A SEPARATE PD RIGHT THERE. AND SO IT'S NOT ANYTHING WE CAN SAY PROVIDE RIGHT OF WAY FOR IT OR PROVIDE A RIGHT TURN LANE. TYPICALLY RIGHT TURNS ARE MORE EFFICIENT THAN LEFT TURNS IN TERMS OF STACKING TRAFFIC BACK. BUT I WOULD SAY A 90 DEGREE LEFT TURNS ARE LESS EFFICIENT THAN, SAY, A 45 DEGREE. YES, YES GOING IN. AND THERE IS A SIGNIFICANT SLOWDOWN GOING NORTHBOUND. NOW, MAYBE IT'S JUST THE SEASON. WE'VE GOT SNOWBIRDS DOWN HERE, A LOT OF MEDICAL OFFICES, A LOT OF SNOWBIRDS NEED MEDICAL STUFF. 
          SO THAT DOES SEEM TO BE AN ISSUE. YEAH. SO THAT UNFORTUNATELY IS SOMETHING THAT IS IS RIGHT AWAY THAT WE CAN'T, CANNOT INFLUENCE OR CONTROL. IN THAT CASE, THERE'S NOT SUFFICIENT RIGHT OF WAY FOR, SAY, COMPENSATING RIGHT OF WAY FOR TO PUT IN A RIGHT TURN LANE. 
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IT WOULD GO INTO THAT ADJACENT PROPERTY AND THAT'S NOT INCLUDED IN THE PD. SO POTENTIALLY THIS DEVELOPMENT WILL MAKE THINGS WORSE FOR THOSE TURNING RIGHT OFF OF GOODLETTE FRANK NORTH, THERE WOULD BE ADDITIONAL TRIPS. AND AGAIN, THAT'S WHY WE KIND OF MITIGATE THINGS AND DELAYS BECAUSE IT'S SLOW. PEOPLE HAVE TO REALLY SLOW DOWN TO A CRAWL TO MAKE THAT TURN RIGHT IN OUR IN OUR OVERALL ANALYSIS THAT WE DID LOOK AT THERE IS THERE STILL IS SATISFACTORY LEVEL OF SERVICE HERE AT THAT LOCATION FOR THAT MOVEMENT TO FIND SATISFACTION. I'VE NOT BEEN VERY SATISFIED THESE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS. SURE I UNDERSTAND, YEAH. HOW DO YOU DEFINE SATISFACTION? OH, IN THE SECTION TWO TIS WE CREATE DIFFERENT LEVELS OF SERVICE FOR EACH MOVEMENT. AND SO IT'S BASED ON DELAY AND TIME DELAY FOR FOLKS. AND SO WITHIN THAT IT'S WITHIN A SATISFACTORY DELAY MEASURE THEY'RE BASED ON AND IS AVERAGED OVER A YEAR. OR IS THAT DO WE LOOK AT PEAK MONTHS. WE WE LOOKED AT A SPECIFIC DURING THE PEAK PERIOD. WE DID ACCOUNTS THERE. THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN LAST YEAR AND WE DID A PEAK PERIOD RIGHT THERE. IT WASN'T OVER AN EXTENDED PERIOD PER SE, BUT IT WAS A PEAK PERIOD THAT WE LOOKED AT. YES, SIR. AND I HEARD EARLIER THAT THE COUNTY IS NOT DISPOSED TO HAVING A SEPARATE ENTRANCE ONTO THE COMMONS OF GOODLETTE FRANK. SO THE THE THERE WOULD NOT BE INTEREST IN HAVING AN ADDITIONAL ENTRANCE. THAT IS CORRECT. YES, SIR. OKAY. BECAUSE I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THAT TURN OFF. YEAH. NO THANK YOU. OKAY. MR. CHAIRMAN. YES. QUESTION. I'M NOT SURE WHETHER TOTALLY REPLY TO YOUR SESSION, BUT AT LEAST IT WILL GIVE THE HEADS UP TO WHOEVER IT MAY. YOU MENTIONED THAT THE THE HOTEL WILL HAVE CONFERENCE CAPACITY AND OBVIOUSLY STAFFING. I'D LIKE TO HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING AS TO WHAT THAT CAPACITY COULD BE FROM POTENTIAL PARTICIPANTS AND HOW THAT WOULD IMPACT ON TRAFFIC TRIPS AND ALSO PARKING. SO FROM I CAN SPEAK TO JUST THE THE IT TRIP GENERATION, WHAT I MEANT TO SAY OR DID SAY IS THAT THE HOTEL BASED ON PER HOTEL ROOM DOES INCLUDE A HOTEL HAVING MEETING ROOMS. ALSO AN INTERNAL RESTAURANT POOL, AND POTENTIALLY IF IT HAD CONFERENCE FACILITIES TOO THAT'S INCLUDED, THAT'S BAKED IN THE IT TRIP GENERATION LAND USE CATEGORY. I WASN'T GETTING INTO THE SPECIFICS AND THAT'S A STANDARD CALCULATION. THAT'S INBUILT. YES, SIR. EXACTLY, EXACTLY. THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO JUST MAKE SURE THAT YOU KNEW WE TOOK THE MOST CONSERVATIVE OR THE HIGHEST TRIP GENERATOR OF THE LAND USES FOR IT. I WASN'T INTO THE SPECIFIC. AND DOES THAT ALSO INCORPORATE STAFFING POTENTIALS AND AS WELL? YES, SIR. EXACTLY. IT'S ALL BAKED INTO THAT NUMBER. EXACTLY. AND BASED ON A PER ROOM BASIS. THAT'S HOW IT'S DONE. SO YEP. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MISS PASADENA. ANYTHING ELSE? MR. COX SPOKE. WELL, THE ONLY THING I WANTED TO POINT OUT, WHICH IS REALLY MORE HIS PURVIEW, THE PROPERTY WHERE YOU SEE NOT INCLUDED HAS ITS OWN TURN LANE. THERE'S PROBABLY A SAFETY ISSUE IN ADDITION TO NO RIGHT OF WAY IN IN TAPERING OUT A RIGHT HAND TURN IN. HE SPOKE TO THAT. THAT WAS THE ONLY CLARIFICATION I WANT TO MAKE. 
          WITH THAT WE CLOSE OR OPEN IT UP FOR ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS TO OUR. OKAY, WE'D LIKE TO HEAR THE STAFF REPORT AND I'M SURE WE'LL HAVE SOME FURTHER QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OKAY. GOOD MORNING, ERIC MARTIN, PLANNING DIRECTOR. YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU TODAY A SITE PLAN, THE SITE PLAN 25 SP1. THIS IS FOR A HOTEL LOCATED AT 870 GOODLETTE FRANK ROAD. THIS IS WITHIN THE COMMONS. THE COMMONS IS A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT. IT WAS ANNEXED INTO THE CITY IN 1989 AS ALSO IT WAS A DRY A DEVELOPMENT OF REGIONAL IMPACT THAT WAS DONE IN THE COUNTY AND A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT THAT WAS ADOPTED IN THE COUNTY AND THEN ANNEXED INTO THE CITY. SO WHEN ANNEXED INTO THE CITY, WE THEN ADOPTED OUR OWN PLAN DEVELOPMENT FOR FOR THAT WHAT YOU NOW KNOW AS THE COMMONS PLAN DEVELOPMENT. THE AS A WHEN WE ADOPTED THIS UNDER THE DEVELOPMENT ORDER, IT WAS ALSO REQUIRED THAT WE COMPLETE A DEVELOPMENT ORDER IN THE CITY. WE DIDN'T DO THAT UNTIL 2017, BUT THAT HAS BEEN DONE. SO NOW THERE IS A DEVELOPMENT ORDER THROUGH THE CITY. THERE'S A CITY PLAN DEVELOPMENT AS WELL. AND SINCE 1980, ALL THE DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THE COMMONS PROFESSIONAL PARK HAS EITHER BEEN REVIEWED BY COLLIER COUNTY OR THE CITY OF NAPLES. SOME OF THIS WAS DEVELOPED, PHYSICALLY DEVELOPED UNDER THE COUNTY REGULATIONS PRIOR TO ANNEXATION, BUT SINCE THE ANNEXATION INTO THE CITY, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN REVIEWED UNDER THE CITY PLAN DEVELOPMENT, BUT ALSO UNDER THE LIMITATIONS OF THE DRY. TO DATE, APPROXIMATELY 203,459FT■!S OF TE APPROVED 693,000FT■!S OF OFFICE 
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AND RELATED USES HAVE BEEN CONSTRUCTED, AND NONE OF THE 15,000FT■!S OF RETAIL HAVE BEEN CONSTRUCTED. THE WAY THIS PLAN DEVELOPMENT WAS SET UP WAS, IT PROVIDED MAXIMUM AMOUNTS OF SQUARE FOOTAGE FOR OFFICE AND COMMERCIAL, MAXIMUM SQUARE FOOTAGE OF RETAIL AND MAXIMUM NUMBER OF RESIDENTIAL UNITS. THE PROPOSED HOTEL WILL INCLUDE 188,000 188,039 GROSS SQUARE FEET, WHICH WILL REALLY LEAVE APPROXIMATELY 301,502FT■!S OF OFFICE AND RELATED USES TO BE ALLOCATED WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT. SO THEY'RE NOT THIS IS NOT GOING TO COMPLETE THE FULL AMOUNT OF THE LIMITATION OF OFFICE AND COMMERCIAL. THERE WILL STILL BE A FAIR CHUNK REMAINING AFTER THIS. SHOULD THIS BE DEVELOPED. IN OCTOBER OF 2020, WE ADOPTED A RESOLUTION APPROVING A SITE PLAN 19 SP 20, AND THAT WAS FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF 63 OF THE AUTHORIZED 100 RESIDENTIAL UNITS ON THE PROPERTY. AND THEN IN 2024, CITY APPROVED A REQUEST FOR 37 OF THE REMAINING RESIDENTIAL UNITS. SO AS OF TODAY, ALL OF THE RESIDENTIAL UNITS HAVE BEEN APPROVED. THERE ARE NO REMAINING RESIDENTIAL UNITS. NONE OF THE RETAIL HAS BEEN ALLOCATED, AND WE STILL HAVE A REMAINING 301,000, JUST OVER 301,000 LEFT OF COMMERCIAL AND AN OFFICE. THIS PROJECT DID COME BEFORE THE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD IN JANUARY OF 2025 FOR PRELIMINARY REVIEW. AT THAT MEETING, THERE WAS A FAIR AMOUNT OF INPUT FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THE ADJACENT NEIGHBORHOOD. THE PETITIONER DID. THEN, FOLLOWING THAT PRELIMINARY REVIEW, THEY DID GO BACK AND MEET WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THEY HAD LOTS OF INTERACTION WITH THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. THEY REVISED THE DESIGN. ONE OF THE MAJOR REVISIONS TO THE DESIGN WAS THE FIRST PROPOSAL INCLUDED A ROOFTOP RESTAURANT AND THAT HAS BEEN REMOVED. SO IN THE DESIGN THAT'S BEFORE YOU TODAY, YOU NO LONGER SEE THAT ROOFTOP RESTAURANT. THEY ALSO INCREASE THE AMOUNT OF GREEN SPACE AND LANDSCAPING AS IT FACES GOODLETTE. SO THEY DID WORK PRETTY CLOSELY WITH THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, MADE A COUPLE OF CONCESSIONS AND SOME CHANGES TO THE DESIGN. WITH WITH COOPERATION FROM THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. SO THEN THEY DID RETURN BACK TO THE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD FOR A SECOND PRELIMINARY REVIEW OF THE NEW DESIGN. AND THE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD DID GRANT PRELIMINARY DESIGN APPROVAL. SO THE REQUEST THAT'S BEFORE YOU TODAY IS A REQUEST FOR A HOTEL. IT'S TWO LEVELS OF PARKING WITH SIX LEVELS OF HOTEL AND LODGING UNITS ABOVE, WITH THE STANDARD HOTEL AMENITIES THAT YOU WOULD EXPECT WITH A WITH A HOTEL. THIS LIKE I SAID, THIS IS GOVERNED BY BOTH THE COMMENTS PROFESSIONAL PARK PLAN DEVELOPMENT AND THE DRI APPROVAL. IT SHOULD BE NOTED. AND THIS PASSIDOMO TOUCHED ON THIS IN HER PRESENTATION THAT IN 2002, THERE WAS A VESTED RIGHTS DETERMINATION THAT THE BECAUSE WE DID IN 2000 PASSED THE CITY CHARTER, WHICH LIMITED THE HEIGHT TO 42FT. HOWEVER, THE COMMONAGE, THE OWNER OF THIS PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, DID GO TO THE COURTS AND OBTAINED A VESTED RIGHTS DETERMINATION THAT THEY ARE STILL VESTED WITH THE RIGHTS TO THE DRI DEVELOPMENT ORDER THAT THEY HAD OBTAINED PRIOR. THE. THERE'S AN INTERESTING PARKING CALCULATION HERE. THIS IS ONE OF THE ONLY SITUATIONS WHERE YOU'LL SEE THIS IN THE CITY. THE CODE WOULD ONLY REQUIRE THE PROVISION OF 285 PARKING SPACES AT A TRANSIENT LODGING CALCULATION. HOWEVER, THE COMP PLAN THERE'S A IT'S IT'S ONLY IT'S A SO MANY SPACES PER UNITS. AND ONCE YOU HIT A THRESHOLD OF SO MANY UNITS IT INCREASES. BUT THE COMP PLAN REQUIRES ONE PER ONE. SO IN THIS CASE THE COMP PLAN REQUIRES A HIGHER PARKING RATIO THAN THE CODE DOES. THEY ARE MEETING THAT HIGHER PARKING RATIO AT THE ONE ONE PER ONE HERE. SO WE DID SEND THIS TO AS A SITE PLAN. IT WAS REVIEWED BY ALL THE DIFFERENT CITY DEPARTMENTS AFTER, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE OF REVIEWS. THE CITY, ALL THE CITY DEPARTMENTS DID FIND THIS SUFFICIENT WITH THE VARIOUS REGULATIONS IN OUR CODE AND OTHER PERTINENT PLANS WE DID SEND. WE DID NOTICE THIS PETITION HERE TODAY TO ALL PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 1000FT, A TOTAL OF 215 LETTERS WERE MAILED TO ALL PROPERTY OWNERS. 
          WE DID RECEIVE AN EMAIL OF SUPPORT THAT WAS INCLUDED IN YOUR PRESENTATION. THAT WAS FROM A MEMBER OF THE ADJACENT NEIGHBORHOOD WHO HAD BEEN PART OF THAT, OR THE EARLY WORKINGS WITH THE DEVELOPER. OTHER THAN THAT, I AM HERE AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS. WE HAVE A COUPLE OF OTHER CITY STAFF MEMBERS HERE. IF YOU HAD ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS RELATED TO ANY OF THE OTHER DISCIPLINES, YOU HAVE A RESOLUTION IN YOUR PACKET THAT PROPOSES A COUPLE OF STAFF CONDITIONS. THE CONDITIONS I WILL READ VERY QUICKLY. SO THE FIRST CONDITION WOULD BE THAT 
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THE TRAFFIC ANALYSIS HAS BEEN COORDINATED WITH AND APPROVED BY COLLIER COUNTY. AS THIS ISN'T SO. THESE ARE NOT ONLY CITY STREETS ADJACENT TO THIS. SO WE DO COORDINATE ALL OF THIS WITH THE THE VARIOUS JURISDICTIONS. SO AS PART OF THE THE COMMITMENTS, THE PETITIONER SHALL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL REQUIRED IMPROVEMENTS, INCLUDING ASSOCIATED COSTS, TO EXTEND THE TOTAL LENGTH OF THE SOUTHBOUND LEFT TURN LANE ON GOODLETTE FRANK ROAD. THE SECOND IS THE SIDEWALK ALONG GOODLETTE FRANK ROAD SHALL BE EIGHT FEET AS IDENTIFIED ON THE SUBMITTED PLANS, AND SHALL BE PERMITTED APPROPRIATELY WITH COLLIER COUNTY. THE. THE THIRD. 
          THE SIDEWALK ALONG THE ROAD WITHIN THE COMMONS RIGHT OF WAY SHALL BE FURTHER EVALUATED. 
          PREFERABLE ADJUSTMENTS SHALL MAINTAIN A MINIMUM OF TWO FEET SEPARATION FROM THE ROADWAY FOR PROTECTION AND SAFETY OF THE PUBLIC. THIS IS THE ENTIRE INTERNAL WALKWAY. THIS COULD BE HANDLED DURING THE BUILDING REVIEW PROCESS. THE CITY SHALL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR MAINTENANCE OR SHALL NOT BE RESPONSIBLE FOR MAINTENANCE OF THE BRICK PAVER SIDEWALK, AND THEN FOR THE GREEN BELT SECTION OF THE CORRIDOR. MANAGEMENT OVERLAY REQUIRES STREET FRONTAGE LANDSCAPING ALONG GOODLETTE FRANK ROAD TO INCLUDE PINE TREES AND CANOPY TREES INCLUDING OAK, BLACK OLIVE, HONG KONG ORCHIDS AND GOLDEN RAIN TREES PLANTED IN MASSES EVERY 30FT. THE PETITIONER PROPOSES TO PRESERVE THE EXISTING MATURE MAHOGANY TREES AND SUPPLEMENT THE FRONTAGE WITH ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING. THIS WILL REQUIRE REVIEW AND APPROVAL FROM THE CITY'S ARBORIST. IT'S A DEPARTURE FROM THE CITY STREET TREES, BUT SOMETIMES THE GIVE AND TAKE THERE IS BETTER BECAUSE YOU GET TO KEEP THOSE MATURE TREES. IT WOULD TAKE FOREVER IF THEY WERE TO REMOVE THOSE AND REPLACE THEM WITH THE CITY PRESCRIBED STREET TREES. IT WOULD TAKE SO MANY YEARS FOR THEM TO TO REACH THAT MATURITY. AND THIS WOULD. 
          IF THE CITY ARBORIST SIGNS OFF ON THAT, IT WOULD BE APPROVED THROUGH THE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD. 
          SO THOSE ARE THE STAFF COMMENTS. I'M AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS AND SO ARE SOME OF OUR OTHER STAFF MEMBERS. TWO COMMENTS I WANT TO MAKE BEFORE WE BEGIN, I APPRECIATE THE QUALITY PRESENTATION BY THE APPLICANT AND THE THOROUGH REVIEW BY THE STAFF. ANDREW. QUESTION. WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF AUTHORITY HERE, RIGHT? I MEAN, THEY'VE GOT THE VESTED RIGHTS. I RARELY SEE SOMETHING LIKE THAT. AND I THINK THAT TIES OUR HANDS. I KNOW PEOPLE HAVE A VISCERAL CONCERN ABOUT THE HEIGHT, BUT THAT'S NOT IN OUR PURVIEW. YEAH. THE MICROPHONE IS YOUR MICROPHONE. SORRY. YEAH, I MEAN, THIS THE HISTORY OF THIS GOES BACK A LONG WAY. 1980 I WAS IN JUNIOR HIGH SCHOOL AT THAT TIME, BUT THERE'S A LONG STRING OF DOCUMENTS THAT DEMONSTRATE THAT THERE WAS SIGNIFICANT EFFORT TO RETAIN THE VESTED RIGHTS THAT CAME FROM THAT ORIGINAL DRI, WHICH, YOU KNOW, IS A STATUTE THAT IS NOW NOT, NOT NOT VERY MUCH IN FUNCTION AT THAT TIME. 
          IN THE 80S, THEY USED DEVELOPMENT AND REGIONAL IMPACTS QUITE A BIT. AND IN THE ANNEXATION AGREEMENT THAT CAME OVER TO THE CITY AND THEN THE SUBSEQUENT CITY ACTIONS THAT TOOK PLACE THAT REAFFIRMED THE THE VESTED RIGHTS. SO IT DOES APPEAR BASED ON, YOU KNOW, MY READING OF THE THE VARIOUS DOCUMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN PROVIDED TO US THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT IS THAT IS THE LAW OF THE LAND ON THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY. IT'S NOT CITYWIDE, OF COURSE. IT'S ON THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY. THEY HAVE A JUDICIAL. THEY DID GO FOR WHAT'S CALLED A DECLARATORY JUDGMENT, AS YOU KNOW, SIR. AND THAT'S WHEN YOU BASICALLY SAY WE ARE UNCERTAIN ABOUT OUR RIGHTS. YOU GO TO COURT. THE COURT RULES. IT WAS TAKEN UP ON APPEAL. THE RULING WAS AFFIRMED. WE I JUST LOOKED AT ALL THE CASES THAT WERE CITED IN THAT ORDER. AND THEY ALL STAND FOR THE PROPOSITION OF EQUITABLE ESTOPPEL. WHEN, YOU KNOW, A PROPERTY OWNER RELIES THAT KIND OF THING. SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, LOOKS LIKE THAT THEY ARE CORRECT ABOUT THAT. OKAY. I REALLY APPRECIATE IT. ANY QUESTIONS OF EITHER THE APPLICANT OR STAFF. 
          SO IDENTIFY WHO YOU'RE ASKING. YES. YES I HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I'M JUST INTRIGUED WITH PARKING. SO THE PARKING IS ONE SPACE PER HOTEL ROOM CORRECT. IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WHERE DID THE STAFF PARK. SO THAT IS ALL BAKED IN. YOU'LL SEE THAT IN ALL OF OUR PARKING RATIOS. WHEN YOU SEE LIKE FOR A RESTAURANT IT'S OKAY. ONE PER 100. THE ASSUMPTION IS THAT THAT CAPTURES BOTH THE GUEST STAFF, IN YOUR OPINION, IS THAT ENOUGH? I DON'T SEE PEOPLE TAKING PUBLIC TRANSPORT HERE. TRUE. IN MY OPINION, DOES IT MEET THE CODE? IT DOES MEET THE CODE. IT MEETS THE CODE. YEAH, YEAH. AND THAT'S REALLY MY AUTHORITY TO ENFORCE. NO. JUST INTRIGUED. YEAH. OKAY. THANK YOU. OTHER QUESTIONS. YES. YEAH. IN REGARD TO THAT JUST POINTS ABOUT THE FURTHER DEVELOPMENT THAT YOU SAID. AND HOW DOES THAT IMPACT THE TRAFFIC STUDY THAT YOU DID NOW AND THEN HE MENTIONED ABOUT 
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POTENTIAL SHUTTLE. I DON'T KNOW IF THE HOTEL IS OFFERING TRANSPORTATION TO AND FROM OR LOCAL AND AS AN AMENITY, OR WOULD PEOPLE MAYBE SHUTTLE THERE TO TRAVEL AND ALSO. ABOUT ON THE OUTSIDE AT THE POOL AREA, WHETHER THERE WAS. GOING TO BE FOOD OUT THERE AND HOW HOW WOULD THEY WAS THERE A KITCHEN THAT'S OUTSIDE OR, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THE THE TALKING ABOUT THE PEOPLE AROUND THE AREA, THE LOCAL RESIDENTS. SO THOSE THREE THINGS, I THINK THINGS THAT I WAS THINKING ABOUT, BUT MOSTLY ABOUT THE ABILITY TO SHUTTLE AND HOW THAT WOULD IMPACT THAT WOULD BE, YES. PETITIONER, DO YOU HAVE. OPERATIONALLY WITH RESPECT TO POOL DINING? THERE MAY BE SOME CATERING OPPORTUNITIES, NOT CATERING. THAT'S NOT THE APPROPRIATE WORD. 
          THERE MAY BE A BUSBOY WHO WOULD COME OUT AND BRING LUNCH POOLSIDE. THAT'S TYPICAL OF A HOTEL. SOME OF THE OPERATIONAL CHARACTERISTICS ARE BEING DEVELOPED, BUT THAT IS THAT WOULD BE THE EXPECTATION THAT'S TYPICAL TO A HOTEL. SHUTTLE IS ALSO AN OPERATIONAL QUESTION THAT WE'RE REVIEWING. I'LL NOTE JUST FROM A BIG PICTURE STANDPOINT. LET'S STEP BACK. 
          OUR TRAFFIC STUDY TOOK THE MOST CONSERVATIVE POSSIBLE ANALYSIS OF THE HOTEL. IT ALSO DID NOT IN INCORPORATE THE POTENTIAL TRIP CAPTURE THAT IS EXPECTED TO HAPPEN IN THE COMMONS. SO THE COMMONS WAS DEVELOPED AS A MIXED USE INTEGRATED DEVELOPMENT TO TO ANTICIPATE THAT THESE USES WOULD WORK IN FUNCTION AND COHERENTLY TOGETHER. SO WHEN I WHEN MR. TREBILCOCK WAS DEVELOPING THE TRAFFIC ANALYSIS, IT WAS INTENTIONALLY THE MOST CONSERVATIVE ANALYSIS THAT THAT COULD BE PERFORMED. NONE OF THAT INTERNAL TRIP CAPTURE WAS EXPECTED, AND WE TOOK THE HIGHEST POTENTIAL HOTEL GENERATION TRIPS THAT COULD BE POSSIBLE. ALL OF THAT WAS DONE FOR AN ABUNDANCE OF MAKING SURE THAT THE TRIP CAP IN A WORST CASE SCENARIO WAS NOT EXCEEDED. AND WE SHOWED YOU TODAY THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY FAR UNDER THAT TRIP CAP GENERATION ONE. ONE OTHER ADDITIONAL POINT MISS MARTIN DID BRING UP VALIDLY THAT THERE'S SQUARE FOOTAGE REMAINING. THE ONLY THING I WANTED TO POINT OUT IN RESPONSE TO THAT IS THERE IS ONLY TWO TRACKS THAT ARE UNDEVELOPED. THAT'S THIS TRACK. MY TECHNOLOGY SKILLS IS HORRIBLE, BUT TRACK THREE AND TRACK TEN, TRACK THREE IS A RELATIVELY SMALL TRACK THERE. TRACK TEN IS THAT LAKEFRONT TRACK THERE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE. THANK YOU, MR. FREILICH. IN THE MIDDLE OF THE LAKE AMENITY. SO THOUGH THERE IS A RESIDUAL POTENTIAL SQUARE FOOTAGE FROM A PRACTICAL PERSPECTIVE, THERE'S NOT MUCH DEVELOPABLE AREA LEFT IN THE PUD. DO YOU WANT THE CONTEXT I WAS WONDERING IS ALSO I KNOW IT'S CRYSTAL BALL, BUT OBVIOUSLY THEY BUILT THE HOTEL BECAUSE THERE MUST BE SOME DEMAND. AND BUT WHAT THEY EXPECTED TO BE THE, THE OCCUPANCY RATE, YOU KNOW, COMPARED TO WHAT THE CAPACITY IS. BEAR WITH ME ONE MOMENT. LET ME ASK OUR REPRESENTATIVE THAT QUESTION. OVER THERE. 
          WHILE IT IS A CRYSTAL BALL, THE THE MODELING THAT WAS DONE IS STARTING IN THE LOW 70S TO THE UPPER 70S AS AN OCCUPANCY RATE EXPECTATION. QUESTIONS? YES, ANDREW. YEAH, A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS, MAINLY FOCUSED AROUND PEDESTRIANS AND ACCESS AND WALKABILITY. RIDEABILITY AROUND THE ACTUAL DEVELOPMENT AND ITS INTERACTION WITH THOSE THAT ARE AROUND IT ALREADY, ESPECIALLY THINGS LIKE WHERE THERE'S SIDEWALK INTERACTION FOR VEHICLES COMING, YOU KNOW, THERE THERE'S A VEHICLE TURNING IN AND HOW THAT AFFECTS THE SIDEWALK. I REALIZE THE PARKING ISSUES AND MR. TREBILCOCK MENTIONED THAT IT IS BUILT IN WITH THE FORMULA, AS MR. CHRIS HAS ALSO RAISED CONCERN. SO I SEE THAT WE'VE GOT 290 PARKING SPACES. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A STRUCTURE WHICH IS JUST OVER 100FT TO THE TOP OF THE EMBELLISHMENT. BUT THE MAIN THING I'D LIKE TO ASK IS HOW IT INTERACTS WITH WALKING EITHER ROUTES, CYCLE ROUTES AROUND THE. 
          AND THEN THE FINAL ONE IS JUST TO GIVE A BRIEF SUMMARY OF THE INTERACTIONS THAT'S BEEN WITH LOCAL RESIDENTS, NOT AFTER THE THE WHOLE DETAIL. JUST A CASE OF THERE'S BEEN THREE MEETINGS, 
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TWO MEETINGS SPREAD OUT, THAT TYPE OF THING JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT THE LOCAL RESIDENTS HAVE BEEN INCLUDED. I'LL START IN REVERSE AND THEN I'LL I THINK I'LL ASK MR. ANDREA TO HELP ADDRESS YOUR QUESTION ON PEDESTRIAN CIRCULATION. THANK YOU. WITH RESPECT TO NEIGHBOR INPUT, I WAS ACTUALLY PERSONALLY INVOLVED AS WELL. SO WE WENT THROUGH THE INITIAL DESIGN REVIEW BOARD. THIS WILL SHOW YOU ALSO THAT THE PROCESS WORKS. THIS WAS A VERY LONG PROCESS, BUT IT WILL SHOW YOU THAT THE IN MY OPINION, THE PROCESS WORKS IN TERMS OF ENGAGEMENT. IN THAT INITIAL MEETING, RESIDENTS FROM LAKE PARK ATTENDED AND EXPRESSED SOME CONCERNS WITH ROOFTOP USES, NOISE THAT COULD BE GENERATED. AND SO WE ALL GOT BACK TOGETHER AND SAID, WHAT IS IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE CITY OF NAPLES IN RESPECT TO THIS HOTEL? WE HAD A RIGHT TO ASK FOR A RESTAURANT, BUT IT WAS DETERMINED THAT THE HOTEL ITSELF IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN THE RESTAURANT COMPONENT. WHEN THAT WAS ELIMINATED, THAT REMOVED PARKING REQUIRED. AND SO IN IN TANDEM WITH REMOVING THE RESTAURANT ROOFTOP, WE PROVIDED THIS ADDITIONAL GREEN SPACE BUFFER, WHICH THE RESIDENTS ALSO ASKED US TO TAKE A HARD LOOK AT. THERE WAS THERE WAS DEFINITELY A POSITIVE FEEDBACK FROM, WELL, RETAIN THE EXISTING TREES ALONG GOODLETTE FRANK ROAD THAT MR. ANDREA WALKED YOU THROUGH. SO INITIALLY IT WAS INITIATED BY THE INITIAL DESIGN REVIEW BOARD, BUT WE HAD A MEETING WITH THE LAKE PARK ASSOCIATION AS PART OF THEIR ACTUAL NOTICE MEETING. WE HAD A FEW INTIMATE MEETINGS WITH SELECT REPRESENTATIVES FROM LAKE PARK NEIGHBORHOOD, AT LEAST A HANDFUL OF TOTAL MEETINGS. AND THAT'S IN ADDITION TO THOSE THAT WERE IN THE ACTUAL PUBLIC FORUM IN THIS ROOM WITH THE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD. I HOPE THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION. MR. ANDREA, CAN YOU BRIEFLY EXPLAIN PEDESTRIAN CIRCULATION? MR. ANDREA. HI, CHRISTIAN ANDREA, LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT AGAIN, WE HAVE SO ALONG GOODLETTE FRANK, WE HAVE THREE CONNECTION POINTS, WHICH I THINK WORKS OUT WELL. SO AND THEN THEY COME THROUGH THE CENTRAL AXIS, THROUGH THE SITE, AND THEN AROUND THE BUILDING ITSELF, THERE'S A COMPLETE CONTINUOUS SIDEWALK THAT WRAPS THE PROPERTY AND CONNECTS ALONG THIS DRIVE HERE, AS WELL AS THIS SIDEWALK THAT RUNS ALONG GOODLETTE FRANK ROAD NORTH AND THEN RUNS INTERNAL TO HERE, AND THEN ALONG THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE BUILDING. CAN CONNECTING BACK IN. JUST LOOKING AT WHERE THE INTERACTION IS, WHERE IT GOES TO. GOOD LUCK FRANK ROAD THAT'S THAT'S LABELED WRONG. THAT'S INTERNAL. THE COMMONS THAT'S NOT GOOD ROAD. YEAH. IS THAT ROAD. DO WE HAVE THAT LABELED. NO IT'S IT'S A LET ME SO THAT IT'S ACTUALLY CALLED GOODLETTE ROAD. THERE IS A PETITION RIGHT NOW TO TO RENAME IT SEVENTH AVENUE NORTH BECAUSE IT TRULY IS AN EXTENSION GOODLETTE FRANK ROAD ON THE, ON THE, ON ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE PROJECT THAT WE'RE ALL FAMILIAR WITH AND WE DRIVE ON EVERY DAY, THE THE OUTCOME OF NOT HAVING AN AN IN A DIRECT IN. SO CONTINUING TO USE WHAT IS GOODLETTE ROAD. BUT SEVENTH AVENUE NORTH EXTENSION IS THAT WE ARE ABLE TO CREATE AN EIGHT FOOT PEDESTRIAN PATHWAY ON GOODLETTE FRANK ROAD, UNINTERRUPTED. THAT TIES INTO THE INTERNAL NETWORK THAT MR. ANDREA WAS JUST SPEAKING TO. THANK YOU. YES, MR. FOWLER, JUST A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. FIRST, I SHOULD PROBABLY SUPPLEMENT MY DISCLOSURE BECAUSE I DID SOME VERY RUDIMENTARY RESEARCH ON SEPARATION BETWEEN SIDEWALK AND BUSY STREETS AND LOOKED AT FDOT STANDARDS AND, AND 2 OR 3 OTHER CIVIL ENGINEERING ORGANIZATION STANDARDS JUST TO KIND OF GET MY, MY MIND AROUND IT, BECAUSE I THOUGHT THAT TWO FEET OF SEPARATION BETWEEN THE SIDEWALK AND GOODLETTE FRANK WAS INSUFFICIENT. AND SO WHAT I WANTED TO DO WAS JUST ASK A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS WITH THAT AS AS WHERE I'M GOING, HOW FAR THE MAHOGANY TREES ARE SEPARATED FROM GOOD. FRANK, AND WHETHER IT'S POSSIBLE, AS A RESULT OF THE INTENTION TO KEEP THOSE MAHOGANY TREES TO MOVE THE SIDEWALK SLIGHTLY FURTHER AWAY FROM GOODLETTE FRANK. HOPEFULLY AS MANY AS 6 TO 8FT. THERE IS AN EXCHANGE. I ASKED THAT VERY QUESTION. THE EXCHANGE IS A WIDER PATHWAY OR A SMALLER PATHWAY THAT IN BOTH CASES, WE'RE TRYING TO HONOR THE TREES THAT EXIST. SO WE DID PROVIDE AN EIGHT FOOT PATHWAY 
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AT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION. IF IT'S THE WILL OF THIS BOARD TO REVIEW AND ATTEMPT TO SHRINK THAT, SO THAT WE'RE PROVIDING MULTIPLE PURPOSES. SHIFTING IT A LITTLE BIT BACK FROM GOODLETTE FRANK ROAD AND PROTECTING THE TREES, WE DO HAVE ONLY SO MUCH ACTUAL GEOGRAPHIC SPACE. SO IF IT'S THE WILL OF THIS BOARD TO RECOMMEND THAT WE LOOK AT MAKING THAT PATHWAY A BIT SMALLER SO THAT IT CAN BE FURTHER TIERED BACK FROM GOODLETTE FRANK ROAD. THAT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT WE CAN LOOK AT AND WORK THROUGH WITH STAFF AND, AND COLLIER COUNTY, BECAUSE THIS IS THEIR RIGHT OF WAY ON, ON THE ULTIMATE WIDTH OF THE PATHWAY. WITH YOUR GOAL IN MIND. WELL, I'M NOT I'M NOT SURE IF IF I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, IS THERE ANY WAY TO MOVE THE THE SIDEWALK FURTHER EAST WITHOUT INTERFERING WITH THE RETENTION OF THE MAHOGANY TREES, OR ARE WE LIMITED? WE'RE LIMITED. WE'RE LIMITED. BUT YOU WILL SEE THAT WE HAVE THIS INTERNAL SIDEWALK SYSTEM. SO A PEDESTRIAN WOULD LIKELY, JUST BY HABIT, GO THROUGH THAT PARK. A BICYCLIST MAY JUST WANT TO, YOU KNOW, FLY STRAIGHT ON GOODLETTE FRANK ROAD. BUT BUT WE ARE WE ARE SITE CONSTRAINED. AND THAT'S REALLY THE THE DIRECTIVE ON ON THE AMOUNT OF WIDTH WE HAVE. WELL, I'M SATISFIED WITH THAT EXPLANATION AND WITH THE CONFIGURATION PERSONALLY I'M SATISFIED. OTHERS MIGHT HAVE DIFFERENT VIEWS, BUT BUT WITH AN EIGHT FOOT SIDEWALK, THE PEDESTRIANS WOULD HAVE THE OPTION OF MOVING FARTHER EAST, EAST, RIGHT EAST ON THE SIDEWALK TO EXTEND THE DISTANCE BETWEEN THEM AND THE. 
          THAT'S A FAIR POINT, TOO. YEAH. OKAY. THANK YOU. YEAH. I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT, BECAUSE I GOT CONFUSED ABOUT THIS AND DIDN'T REALIZE IT UNTIL WE LOOKED AT THAT ROAD. SO I DIDN'T REALIZE THE NAME OF THAT ROAD IS GOODLETTE ROAD. AND SO THE STAFF REPORT IS REFERENCING THE TWO FEET SEPARATION ON THAT ROAD. THE GOODLETTE FRANK ROAD IS AN EIGHT FOOT WIDE SIDEWALK THAT IS CONSISTENT DOWN THE WHOLE THING. THAT'S NOT OUR RIGHT. RIGHT, EXACTLY. YEAH, YEAH. SO I GOT CONFUSED UNTIL YOU MADE THAT COMMENT. AND THEN I SAW THE NAME OF THAT ROAD. SO I JUST WANT TO CLARIFICATION IN CASE ANYBODY ELSE HAD THAT SAME REALIZATION. YEAH. REALLY APPRECIATE IT. YEAH. SO SO HOW FAR IS THE SEPARATION BETWEEN THE SIDEWALK AND GOOD LUCK FRANK. WHAT WE THINK OF AS GOODLETTE FRANK THE THE SIDEWALK IS IS IT'S YEAH. IT WAS GOING TO SAY IT'S, IT'S BACK OF CURB. SO IT'S AN ELEVATED NORM. DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO THE TECHNICAL. BUT IT IS AN ELEVATED SIDEWALK. SO IT'S IT IT'S NOT FLUSH WITH THE PAVEMENT. BUT WHAT IS THE ACTUAL SEPARATION. THE SIDEWALKS AGAINST BACK CURB TODAY. IT'S RIGHT. IT'S RIGHT UP AGAINST BACK OF CURVE. SO THERE'S NO SEPARATION ALONG GOODLETTE FRANK ROAD. SO AND THE DIFFICULTY IS IT'S A COUNTY SIDEWALK AND IT'S EXISTING SIDEWALK. AND WITH THE IT SEEMS TO ME THAT WITH THE DESIGN OF AN ALTERNATIVE WALKING PATH, LET'S USE THAT TERM WITHIN THE COMMUNITY THAT PEOPLE ARE WALKERS ARE I THINK THIS IS RIGHT. I THINK BICYCLISTS ARE TOO, RIGHT ALONG THE SIDEWALK, AND I THINK WALKING PEOPLE WILL GO IN AND ENJOY THE LANDSCAPED AREA. YEAH. AND THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION, MR. BARONE. 
          IF I DIDN'T PICK UP ON THAT, MR. FOWLER, I APOLOGIZE. BUT WE WE ARE ATTEMPTING TO CREATE A MUCH WIDER SIDEWALK THERE, PRESERVE THE TREES AND THEN CREATE A PEDESTRIAN MEANDERING PATH INTERNAL TO THE DEVELOPMENT. SO THERE THERE ARE THREE GOALS HERE THAT ARE TRYING TO MERGE AND MARRY WITH ONE ANOTHER. WELL, TERRIFIC. JUST A COUPLE OF COMMENTS. I FULLY ENDORSED THE NAME CHANGE TO SEVENTH AVENUE NORTH. SO DO WE. SO THAT I DON'T I'M SURE POLICE AGREE. AND SECONDLY, THEN THE MAHOGANY TREES ARE ALONG GOODLETTE FRANK ROAD. 
          ISN'T THAT CORRECT? OKAY. AND SO THAT TAKES ME BACK TO MY MY QUESTION JUST TO MAKE SURE I'M ON, ON THE RIGHT PATH. SO HOW FAR ARE THOSE MAHOGANY TREES AWAY FROM FROM GOODLETTE FRANK ROAD. AND AND ARE WE SATISFIED WE CAN CAN PRESERVE THOSE CHRISTIAN ANDRE AGAIN LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT. I'LL USE BALLPARK NUMBERS JUST TO SAY. BUT WE BELIEVE THE CURRENT SIDEWALK, WHICH IS A FIVE FOOT SIDEWALK, IS 12FT TO THE TRUNK CENTER OF THE TREE. THE TREES HAVE SOME MASS TO THEM. WE'RE PLANNING ON WIDENING THE SIDEWALK TO EIGHT FEET, SO WE'RE GETTING A LITTLE CLOSER THERE. WE'RE STILL TRYING TO MAINTAIN AS MUCH AS WE CAN, SEPARATION BETWEEN THE TRUNK OF THE TREE AND THE SIDEWALK. WE THINK THE THREE FOOT EXPANSION IS FINE. WE DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO IMPACT THE TREES AS WE IF WE WERE TO CONTINUE TO TAKE ANOTHER THREE FEET, I START RISKING THE ROOTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT THAT WE THINK WE'D END UP HAVING TO PRUNE. OTHER SIDEWALKS CAN GET LIFTED AND EVEN OUT. THAT EXPANSION WILL LIKELY HAVE TO DO SOME PROTECTION, MAKE SURE THAT SIDEWALK SURVIVES AND DOESN'T HAVE ANY CONFLICTS WITH THE ROOTS. AND SO IN THE STAFF REPORT, THE FOURTH RECOMMENDED CONDITION INCLUDES A SENTENCE THAT SAYS THE PETITIONER PROPOSES TO PRESERVE THE 
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EXISTING MAHOGANY, MATURE MAHOGANY TREES, ETC. WOULD THE PETITIONER BE SATISFIED WITH THAT LANGUAGE? WERE CHANGED TO THE PETITIONER IS REQUIRED TO PRESERVE THE EXISTING MAHOGANY TREES TO THE GREATEST EXTENT POSSIBLE, OR LANGUAGE TO THAT EXTENT. THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. WE HAD A DETAILED DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT INTERNALLY. WE'D BE WILLING TO COMMIT TO YOUR LANGUAGE SHIFT THE A LITTLE BIT MORE AFFIRMATIVE IN THE RESOLUTION. 
          THANK YOU. ANDREW. YEAH, JUST A PROCEDURAL MATTER. MR. FOWLER MADE A A SUPPLEMENTARY DISCLOSURE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE QUASI JUDICIAL HEARING. I WANT TO ASK IF ANY. SO I WANT TO EXPLAIN THAT EX PARTE DISCLOSURES INCLUDE ANY INDEPENDENT RESEARCH THAT YOU MAY HAVE DONE, NOT JUST COMMUNICATIONS. SO IF ANYONE ELSE HAS ANYTHING ELSE TO DISCLOSE, LET'S DO IT NOW. AND THEN I WANT TO ASK MISS PASSIDOMO IF SHE HAS ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT, BECAUSE I WANT TO CURE THIS PROBLEM IN THE RECORD RIGHT NOW. ANYBODY ELSE HAVE JUST JUST FOR CLARITY, I DID MENTION THAT I'D REVIEWED, BUT EVERYTHING I'VE REVIEWED HAS BEEN FROM THE CITY VIA THE CITY IN THE RECORD. EVERYTHING IN THE RECORD IS IN THE RECORD. 
          NOTHING OUTSIDE OF THOSE RECORDS. RIGHT. OKAY. ANOTHER PROCEDURAL QUESTION. SO I THINK THERE WAS AN ARTICLE IN THE PAPER ABOUT THIS LIKE A YEAR AGO, LIKE IF YOU READ THAT ARTICLE, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU HAVE TO DO? IT'S YEAH, I WOULD, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT YOU READ THAT ARTICLE IN THE PAPER. SO I'M FAMILIAR WITH THAT. THE ARTICLE THAT I THINK NAPLES DAILY NEWS PUBLISHED ABOUT A YEAR OR SO AGO, I THINK WHEN YOU WENT IN FRONT OF THE DRB. 
          OKAY. YEAH. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. GREAT. AND MISS PASSIDOMO, IS THAT SATISFY YOU? DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF ANYONE? NO QUESTIONS? NO OBJECTIONS. OKAY, GREAT. WE'RE CURED. GREAT PROCESS. OKAY. YES. OKAY, I'M COMING BACK TO THE GOODLETTE FRANK ROAD NORTHBOUND RIGHT TURN LANE. I'M INTRIGUED HERE BECAUSE THE SUPPORTING DOCUMENT DOCUMENTATION PROVIDED SAYS CURRENTLY THE STUDY THE STUDY INTERSECTION DOES NOT PROVIDE A NORTHBOUND RIGHT TURN LANE. A DEDICATED NORTHBOUND RIGHT TURN LANE IS WARRANTED. I'LL SAY THAT AGAIN IS WARRANTED UNDER BACKGROUND TRAFFIC CONDITIONS BASED ON COLLEGES ON THE COUNTY'S MULTILANE DIVIDEND. 
          SORRY, DIVIDED ROADWAY CRITERIA. IT GOES ON TO SAY THAT FOR THE PURPOSES OF THIS REPORT, A NORTHBOUND RIGHT TURN LANE ON GOODLETTE FRANK IS NOT CONSIDERED IN THE INTERSECTION ANALYSIS. I FIND THIS CURIOUS THAT THE COUNTY IS SAYING THAT A RIGHT TURN LANE IS WARRANTED, AND YET WE DIDN'T DO ANALYSIS. WAS THIS IN THE TOO HARD BUCKET? NO, NOT AT ALL. NO, SIR. IT'S IT'S WARRANTED BASED ON THE VOLUME OF TRAFFIC. THE COUNTY THE COUNTY STANDARD IS IF A FOR MULTI LANE DIVIDED HIGHWAY FOR RIGHT HAND TURN LANES ON A MULTI-LANE DIVIDED HIGHWAY A TURN LANE IS WARRANTED. WHAT YOU KNOW FLAT OUT OFTENTIMES TURN LANES ARE NOT PUT IN ON SOME OF THESE ROAD FACILITIES BECAUSE THERE ISN'T RIGHT OF WAY AVAILABLE TO PUT THAT TURN LANE IN. AND THAT'S THE CASE HERE. YOU HAVE AN EXISTING DEVELOPED SITE THAT THERE WOULDN'T BE ENOUGH RIGHT OF WAY TO PUT A NORTHBOUND RIGHT TURN LANE IN. SO THAT'S WHY WE SAY IT'S WARRANTED BY BACKGROUND CONDITION. IT IS. HOWEVER, IT'S NOT FEASIBLE TO INSTALL THAT TURN LANE. ONE THING TO CONSIDER HERE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IN REALITY IS IN OUR ANALYSIS, WE HAVE THAT INTERCONNECT TO THE NORTH THERE. AND IN REALITY, AS THE SITE DIRECTLY NORTH OF US DEVELOPS AND THEY HAVE A DRIVEWAY RIGHT RIGHT HERE ADJACENT, WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO FIND IS A LOT OF FOLKS WILL PROBABLY BE USING THAT, QUITE FRANKLY, TO MAKE THE RIGHT INTO THE THE PROJECT. SO I'VE SEEN I DID SEE THAT ON THE, ON THE MAPS. IS THAT A RIGHT OF WAY OR IS IT A PRIVATE ACCESS. THAT'S A PRIVATE ACCESS, BUT IT'S AN INTERCONNECT. 
          THAT'S WHY CONSIDERABLY I DID NOT USE IT OR RELY ON IT FOR TRAFFIC VOLUME FOR US. BUT QUITE FRANKLY, I SEE IT AS A RELIEVER. SO WHOEVER USES THAT COULD ACTUALLY PUT A GATE UP AND STOP ACCESS. YES, SIR. YEAH. SO YOU DO HAVE TO IGNORE THAT. SO WE STILL GO BACK TO THAT RIGHT TURN WITH NO RELIEF. THERE. WE IT'S SOMETHING WE DO NOT CONTROL BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO SHOW YOU WITH THE SEPARATE EXHIBIT THAT IT'S A SEPARATE PD PLAN DEVELOPMENT. 
          YES, SIR. SO IT'S NOT ANYTHING WE CAN CONTROL. WHAT WE HAVE DONE IS, AS I SAID, I BELIEVE WE'VE GONE ABOVE AND BEYOND WITH THE SOUTHBOUND LEFT THAT WE HAD, AND THERE STILL IS SUFFICIENT LEVEL OF SERVICE AT THAT INTERSECTION. AND EVEN THAT NORTHBOUND MOVEMENT, ITS LEVEL OF SERVICE. SEE, SO IT DOES MEET THE STANDARDS, BUT THERE IS A DELAY COMPONENT THAT DOES GET CREATED. YES, SIR. OKAY. THANK YOU. YES, SIR. OKAY. CAN WE HAVE A MOTION A MOTION 
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HERE? WE READY TO PROCEED? I'M GOING TO MOVE APPROVAL WITH THE STAFF CONDITIONS. AND I DO WANT TO COMMENT THAT I THINK OUR WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF FLEXIBILITY UNDER THE CONTRACTUAL AGREEMENTS BETWEEN THE PARTIES AND THE LEGAL DECISIONS. SO I'M GOING TO MAKE THAT MOTION. 
          WOULD YOU CONSIDER AN AMENDMENT TO YOUR MOTION WITH YOUR. YES. THE AMENDMENT WOULD PICK UP. 
          THAT SHALL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR REMINDING ME. SECOND, ANY DISCUSSION, CALL THE ROLL MEMBER. MAYOR. I STILL NEED A BIT OF TIME TO DIGEST THIS SO WE CAN VOTE. AND THEN YOU'LL COME BACK. WE'LL COME BACK TO YOU. IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE TELLING? YEAH. I JUST WANT TO DIGEST WHAT'S BEEN SAID AND WHAT'S BEEN BROUGHT IN. MEMBER. YES. ALTERNATE MEMBER. 
          COOPER. YES. MEMBER. FOWLER. I'M SORRY. YES, YES. MEMBER. CHRIS. RELUCTANTLY. YES. VICE CHAIR KAPPLER IS ABSENT. MEMBER. MAYOR. YES. CHAIR. COUGHLIN. YES. THANK YOU. I WANT TO TAKE A BREAK NOW BEFORE WE. IT'S PROBABLY A GOOD IDEA. OKAY. IT IS NOW, SAY 10:00. 1015. IS THAT WORK FOR EVERYBO THANK YOU, NOW, I'D LIKE TO CALL THE MEETING BACK TO ORDER. WE'RE 
          [8.A) Update on Naples 2045, the Elective Changes to the City of Naples Comprehensive Plan. ]
NOW ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE, AND I HAVE THREE SPEAKERS THAT WISH TO TALK. AND I THINK IT'D BE APPROPRIATE TO LET THEM GO FIRST SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO SPEND THE DAY LISTENING TO US. THE FIRST SPEAKER. I GUESS YOU WANT TO SWEAR EVERYBODY IN. NO, THIS NO SWEARING IN. I MIGHT GIVE A BRIEF, A BRIEF INTRODUCTION AS THE FIRST SPEAKER IS WALKING UP, BUT OKAY, WHY DON'T YOU GIVE YOUR INTRODUCTION? SURE. I'LL CALL THE SPEAKERS UP. GOOD MORNING, ERICA MARTIN, PLANNING DIRECTOR. WHAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU TODAY IS THIS IS YOUR FIRST ROUND OR YOUR REVIEW OF THE FIRST ROUND OF AMENDMENTS TO THE PLAN. AS YOU KNOW, WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF A ELECTIVE UPDATE TO OUR COMP PLAN, A FULL, FULL REVIEW AND UPDATE. WE'VE HAD THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT PORTION OF THIS PROJECT THAT'S BEEN CLOSED. WE HAD TWO ROUNDS OF PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT MEETINGS, ONE ROUND IN NOVEMBER, ONE IN FEBRUARY. YOUR CONSULTANT IN THAT IT HAS GATHERED THE INFORMATION FROM THOSE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT MEETINGS, PLUS THEIR REVIEW OF RELEVANT DOCUMENTS IN PHASE ONE OF THE PROJECT. AND WITH ALL OF THAT INPUT, THEY HAVE PUT TOGETHER A PROPOSED AMENDMENTS TO ALL OF THE ELEMENTS OF YOUR COMP PLAN. AND THAT'S IN THE PACKAGE THAT'S BEFORE YOU TODAY. SO WE HAVE THE CONSULTANT TEAM IS HERE TO GIVE THEIR PRESENTATION OF THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS. WE HAVE VARIOUS CITY STAFF MEMBERS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE ABOUT THOSE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS. AND WE ARE PREPARED TO GO THROUGH THAT. THE DOCUMENT AND AND GET THE FEEDBACK FROM THE PAB AND THE PUBLIC ON THE PROPOSED CHANGES. OKAY. AND I HAVE A SUGGESTION TO MAKE THAT IF YOU HAVE CORRECTIONS DEALING WITH BOARD MEMBERS, HAVE CORRECTIONS, DEALING WITH SPELLING, GRAMMAR, SENTENCE STRUCTURE, THAT SORT OF STUFF. GIVE THAT PRIVATELY TO THE TO THE STAFF AND IT WON'T TAKE OUR TIME. IT IS SORT OF MY INTENTION TO GO THROUGH THE 12 OR WHAT WAS 14 ELEMENTS OF THE PLAN, CHAPTER BY CHAPTER, AND WE'LL WE'LL ALLOW MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, I THINK, BEFORE WE BEGIN TO MAKE ANY GENERAL COMMENTS YOU WANTED TO MAKE BEFORE WE GET IN. MY GENERAL COMMENT IS I'M IMPRESSED WITH WHAT WE'VE BEEN GIVEN. I THINK THERE'S SOME WORK STILL TO BE DONE, BUT IT'S A GREAT START. BUT WE HAVE THREE PEOPLE THAT WISH TO SPEAK. SUSAN BROWN, I THINK YOUR FIRST. THAT'S GOD SPEAKING TO YOU, BY THE WAY, I NEED DIRECTION. GOOD MORNING. 
          MY NAME IS SUSAN BROWN AND I LIVE ON SECOND AVENUE NORTH, AND I'M HERE TODAY TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE OLDE NAPLES ASSOCIATION. WE BELIEVE THAT THE PLANNING ADVISORY BOARD'S WORK ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN 2045 UPDATE IS VERY IMPORTANT TO ENSURE THAT THE VALUES OF 
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OUR RESIDENTS ARE CODIFIED INTO OUR LAWS. YOU HAVE BEEN PROVIDED A LETTER THAT DESCRIBES WHAT OUR RESIDENTS SEE AS IMPORTANT ISSUES THAT SHOULD BE INCLUDED IN THE 2045 UPDATE, SO I WOULD JUST LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THE PARTICULARLY IMPORTANT ELEMENTS. 
          LAND USE AND POLICY DECISIONS SHOULD CONTINUE TO PLACE RESIDENTS WELFARE FIRST. THIS PRINCIPLE HAS LONG BEEN EXPRESSED BY CITY LEADERSHIP AND REMAINS VITAL TO MAINTAINING PUBLIC TRUST AND COMMUNITY CHARACTER. THE PLAN MUST REINFORCE THIS RESIDENTS FIRST ETHIC AND PROVIDE THE BASIS FOR IMPLEMENTING IT IN EFFECTIVE CODES AND OTHER LEGAL AUTHORITY. THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SHOULD REFLECT PRIORITY FOR CONTROLLING OVERDEVELOPMENT EVEN AT OUR BORDERS, INCLUDING PRESERVATION OF NAPLES WATER GOING TO THOSE BUILDINGS OUTSIDE OF OUR BORDERS, WHICH ALLOWS FOR FURTHER DEVELOPMENT. OF UTMOST IMPORTANCE FOR OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE IS RESILIENCE NAPLES ABILITY TO WITHSTAND AND ADAPT TO FLOODING, STORMS, HEAT AND INFRASTRUCTURE STRESS WILL DETERMINE WHETHER THE CITY REMAINS LIVABLE AND RETAINS ITS CHARACTER OVER THE NEXT 20 YEARS. THE PLAN SHOULD INCLUDE CLEAR, FORWARD LOOKING RESILIENCE AND SUSTAINABILITY POLICIES THAT PROTECT PUBLIC POLICY, NEIGHBORHOODS AND NATURAL SYSTEMS WHILE PREPARING FOR FUTURE ENVIRONMENTAL CHALLENGES. AND AS FAR AS HISTORIC PRESERVATION, NAPLES HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOODS AND STRUCTURES ARE IRREPLACEABLE, AND LAND USE DECISIONS SHOULD PROTECT AND INCENTIVIZE THEIR PRESERVATION. AND ADDITIONALLY, WE FEEL THAT CAREFUL CITY LANDSCAPING SHOULD BE INCLUDED IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, INCLUDING SHADE TREES. WE STRONGLY SUPPORT, INCLUDING IMPLEMENTATION AND MONITORING PROVISIONS WITHIN EACH ELEMENT OF THE PLAN. CLEAR PERFORMANCE INDICATORS, REGULAR PROGRESS REVIEWS AND PERIODIC ASSESSMENTS HELP ENSURE ACCOUNTABILITY AND KEEP THE CITY ALIGNED WITH ITS STATED GOALS. ADOPTION OF THE PLAN SHOULD BE FOLLOWED BY TIMELY UPDATES TO CODES AND REGULATIONS, SO ITS VISION IS FULLY REALIZED. AND WE WOULD ALSO ASK THAT YOU CONSIDER USING THE WORD SHALL IN DESCRIBING CITY OBLIGATIONS RATHER THAN ASPIRATIONAL GOALS, WHICH ARE UNENFORCEABLE. THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR SERVICE AND FOR CONSIDERING THESE PERSPECTIVES. WE APPRECIATE THE COMMITTEE'S COMMITMENT TO THOUGHTFUL PLANNING AND STAND READY TO BE A CONSTRUCTIVE PARTNER AS THIS IMPORTANT WORK CONTINUES, AND WE HOPE THAT IN 2045, OUR CHILDREN WILL SAY THANK YOU FOR THE WORK THAT YOU HAVE DONE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR NICE COMMENTS. THANK YOU. NEXT PERSON IS CARRIE SCHUMER FROM THE CONSERVANCY. GOOD MORNING BOARD. SO FOR THE RECORD, I'M CARRIE SCHUMANN. 
          I'M THE CLIMATE RESILIENCE ADVISOR IN THE ENVIRONMENTAL POLICY TEAM FOR THE CONSERVANCY OF SOUTHWEST FLORIDA. BUT WE'RE ALSO HERE AS A LANDHOLDER IN THE CITY. WE DO HAVE A MANGROVE PARCEL IN THE PORT ROYAL AREA. AND PARTLY I WANTED THE OPPORTUNITY TO FIRST APPLAUD THE CITY MORE GENERALLY FOR BEING SO PROACTIVE ON THEIR EFFORTS TO BUILD RESILIENCE TO ISSUES LIKE FLOODING AND HEAT. GIVEN THAT THESE STRESSORS ARE LIKELY TO ONLY INCREASE OVER TIME, OUR REGION IN GENERAL HAS BEEN SOMEWHAT SLOW TO THE TABLE IN COMPARISON TO OTHER AREAS WITH REGIONAL CLIMATE COMPACTS AND OTHER EFFORTS FOCUSED ON BUILDING RESILIENCE. BUT BY DOING THIS, YOU KNOW, THE CITY IS REALLY SHOWING ITSELF TO BE A LEADER IN A MODEL. SO WE'RE REALLY GLAD TO SEE A COMP PLAN UPDATE AS PART OF THAT PROCESS, EVEN WITH, YOU KNOW, SOME CHALLENGES AROUND ISSUES LIKE HOME RULE THAT WE KNOW ARE GOING ON CURRENTLY. I WILL MENTION THAT PERHAPS THERE MAY BE AN OPPORTUNITY THAT WAS MISSED TO ENGAGE MORE WITH ORGANIZATIONS LIKE NONPROFITS DURING THIS PROCESS. AND I'M NOT JUST POINTING OUT THE CONSERVANCY. I'M ALSO POINTING OUT THAT WE HAVE OTHER ORGANIZATIONS THAT HAVE PUT CAPACITY AND EFFORT TOWARDS BUILDING LOCAL RESILIENCE AND ARE INVESTED IN THESE ISSUES. 
          AND I THINK OF OTHER ORGANIZATIONS, FOR INSTANCE, LIKE THE THE COLLIER COMMUNITY FOUNDATION, THE NAPLES BOTANICAL GARDEN. SO WE DO KNOW THAT THERE ARE MANY OF US THAT ARE INTERESTED IN WHAT BUILDING THAT RESILIENCE LOOKS LIKE. WE WILL PLAN ON SUBMITTING SOME WRITTEN COMMENTS AND HOPE THAT WE CAN BE A RESOURCE IN THIS PROCESS. WE HAVE ALREADY ENGAGED BY ATTENDING THE PUBLIC WORKSHOPS THROUGH THAT LENS. AS A LOCAL LANDHOLDER, OUR 
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POSITION GENERALLY IS IS WE'RE REALLY SEEKING FOR BALANCED ADAPTATION EFFORTS THAT DON'T FORGET TO INCLUDE NATURAL PROTECTION AND SERVICES IN THE PROCESS. SO WE'RE PRIMARILY WE'LL EXAMINE RECOMMENDED UPDATES FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE. BUT I THINK WE CAN ALL ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WE REALLY DO HAVE A SIGNIFICANT DEPENDANCE IN OUR AREA, ESPECIALLY ECONOMICALLY, ON THE PERSISTENCE AND THRIVING OF THOSE NATURAL SYSTEMS. EXAMPLES OF THE FACT THAT WE DEPEND HEAVILY ON PEOPLE VISITING OUR BEACHES, TAKING BOATING TRIPS AND HIKING, VISITING THE EVERGLADES. SO IT REALLY MAKES SENSE TO STRIKE THAT SENSE OF BALANCE AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE CONSIDERING CAPITALIZING ON THAT PROTECTION OF NATURE IN OUR PROCESS. THERE ARE SOME REALLY GOOD STUDIES THAT POINT OUT THAT THAT, FOR INSTANCE, JUST ONE EXAMPLE IS MANGROVES. AND THE FACT THAT WE SEE A 25% REDUCTION IN FLOOD RISK IN COLLIER COUNTIES TO PROPERTIES BEHIND MANGROVES. THAT WAS A NATURE CONSERVANCY REPORT. 
          ANOTHER RECENT STUDY SUGGESTS 67 MILLION IN REDUCTION OF ANNUAL STORM SURGE LOSSES IN THE COUNTY DUE TO MANGROVES. AND WE KNOW THAT OTHER SYSTEMS LIKE OUR OUR DUNES, OUR MARSHES, THEY'RE DOING REALLY IMPORTANT WORK FOR US. THEY'RE ALSO REALLY IMPORTANT PART OF OUR LOCAL WATER QUALITY, WHICH MANY PARTS PLACES IN FLORIDA ARE STRUGGLING WITH, WHICH IS ALSO REALLY IMPORTANT TO OUR ECONOMY. WE HAVE DONE AN ECONOMIC REPORT THAT OUTLINES WHAT IT REALLY LOOKS LIKE WHEN YOU HAVE A REALLY BAD BLOOM, HOW DOES THAT AFFECT OUR LOCAL ECONOMY? AND I WILL SAY WE'RE TRYING TO BE REALLY PRAGMATIC. WE'RE NOT ADVOCATING FOR NO HARD INFRASTRUCTURE. WE'RE SAYING WHEN YOU USE HARD INFRASTRUCTURE, WE NEED TO BE THOUGHTFUL ABOUT WHAT THOSE TRADE OFFS ARE, WHETHER THEY ARE ENVIRONMENTAL, ECONOMIC EQUITY, EQUITABILITY OF FLOOD PROTECTION AND CONTRIBUTION TO QUALITY OF LIFE. I WILL NOTE THAT EVEN AS WE'VE STARTED TO REVIEW THE EXISTING COMP PLAN AND THE UPDATES, THERE'S A LOT OF GREAT CONTENT ALREADY BUILT IN. AND SO I THINK THE OTHER THING IS, YOU KNOW, NOTING THAT WE REALLY WILL LOOK TO THE CITY TO CONTINUE TO IMPLEMENT AND PURSUE AND LOOK TO CITY LEADERSHIP AND THEIR ROLE IN DOING THAT. I WILL JUST MENTION BRIEFLY, YOU KNOW, WE REALLY ARE COMMITTED TO TO THIS WORK AS WELL. WE'RE DOING OUR OWN PROJECT WHERE WE'RE WORKING WITH CONSULTANTS TO LOOK AT SOME NATURE BASED OPTIONS FOR AREAS OF THE CITY THAT SHOULD CONNECT DIRECTLY TO A LOT OF WHAT THE CITY IS ALREADY DOING, AND A LOT OF THE GREAT STRATEGIES. WE REALLY NEED A LOT OF LAYERED STRATEGIES. SO WE NEED TO BE LOOKING AT ALL THESE OPTIONS. SO AGAIN, WE JUST LOOK REALLY FORWARD TO SUBMITTING THOSE COMMENTS, HOPEFULLY BEING A FUTURE RESOURCE. AND AGAIN, WE'RE REALLY HAPPY TO SEE THE CITY LEADERSHIP AND THE CITY STAFF REALLY ENGAGING IN THIS VERY PROACTIVE PROCESS TO MOVE OUR RESILIENCE FORWARD. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. WE ALWAYS ENJOY WORKING WITH YOUR ORGANIZATION. THANK YOU. MAY I ADD ONE COMMENT? I'M VERY MUCH LOOKING FORWARD TO RECEIVING YOUR WRITTEN COMMENTS. FEEL FREE TO BE AS DETAILED AS YOU'D LIKE. YOU KNOW THAT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS ORGANIZED BY GOAL, OBJECTIVE, AND POLICY. FEEL FREE TO TO SUGGEST GOALS, OBJECTIVES OR POLICIES AND AND ANYWAY, MY POINT IS, I'M REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO YOUR COMMENTS AND I THINK THERE'LL BE AN IMPORTANT CONTRIBUTION TO OUR EFFORTS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND AGAIN, WE DO WANT TO REITERATE, THOUGH, WE DO SEE SOME REALLY GOOD WORK HAPPENING. 
          AND WE YOU KNOW, WE PROBABLY WILL BE COMING MOSTLY FROM A POSITION OF SUPPORT FOR A LOT OF THE GOOD CONTENT IN THERE. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU, JENNA HEIDEMANN. GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS JENNA HEIDEMANN. I AM THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE PORT ROYAL PROPERTY OWNERS ASSOCIATION, AND I AM HERE REPRESENTING A COALITION OF HOA'S, WHICH CONSISTS OF AQUALINE SHORES, COQUINA SANDS, GSAC, THE MOORINGS, PARK SHORE, ROYAL HARBOR AND OF COURSE, PORT ROYAL. I HAVE SUBMITTED A LETTER FROM THE COALITION TO YOU ALL YESTERDAY, AND I BELIEVE IT SHOULD BE TO ERIKA, AND HOPEFULLY IT'S IN THE RECORD AS WELL. BUT I HAVE A COPY IF I NEED TO SUBMIT IT TO YOU AS WELL. AND I'D JUST LIKE TO MAKE A FEW COMMENTS ON THAT LETTER, IF I MAY. THE PROPOSED FIRST, THE PROPOSED COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE IS CRITICALLY IMPORTANT TO OUR CITY AND ITS RESIDENTS, GIVEN THAT IT WILL PROVIDE A ROADMAP FOR HOW NAPLES SHOULD GROW AND DEVELOP OVER THE NEXT 20 YEARS. GIVEN THE DETAIL AND COMPLEXITY OF THE PROPOSED PLAN, WE ENCOURAGE THE PAB AND CITY STAFF TO PROVIDE RESIDENTS AND OTHER INTERESTED MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WITH MORE INFORMATION ON THE MATTER AND TIMETABLE UNDER WHICH THE PAB WILL REVIEW THE PLAN SO THAT WE CAN BE IN A POSITION TO PROVIDE INPUT IN THE MOST USEFUL AND TIMELY WAY. SECOND, THE CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE ARE CLOSELY LINKED AND SHOULD BE ALIGNED. WE BELIEVE THAT NAPLES TODAY HAS A SOUND, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND DEVELOPMENT CODE, INDEED ONE OF THE BEST IN FLORIDA. 
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BASED ON THE TESTIMONY OF EXPERTS IN THE PLANNING FIELD. FURTHER, OUR PLANNING AND REGULATORY FRAMEWORK HAS BEEN CONSIDERABLY STRENGTHENED IN RECENT YEARS BY ACTIONS TAKEN BY CITY COUNCIL. UPON ADVICE FROM THE PLANNING ADVISORY BOARD TO REDUCE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR VARIANCES AND SITE PLAN DEVIATIONS, STRENGTHEN STORMWATER MANAGEMENT REQUIREMENTS FOR NEW DEVELOPMENT, AND ENFORCE CONSISTENTLY THE CHARTER HEIGHT LIMITS. ANY FURTHER MODIFICATIONS TO THE PLAN SHOULD AVOID USING TERMINOLOGY THAT IS VAGUE IN ITS MEANING OR IMPLICATIONS, SUCH AS CHARM, CHARACTER, OR OVERDEVELOPMENT. 
          THESE KIND OF TERMS MEAN DIFFERENT THINGS TO DIFFERENT PEOPLE. DEFINITION. 
          DEFINITIONAL CLARITY AND SPECIFICITY. SPECIFICITY ARE IMPORTANT WHEN CONSIDERING POLICIES UPON WHICH DECISIONS ON QUASI JUDICIAL MATTERS WILL ULTIMATELY BE MADE. WE APPLAUD THIS DECISION TO ADD RESILIENCE ELEMENT TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. GIVEN HOW IMPORTANT THE ISSUE IS TO NAPLES, WE BELIEVE THAT MUCH CAN BE DONE TO CONTINUE TO BUILD STRONG RESILIENCE RESILIENCE PROGRAM FOR NAPLES, BUT THAT IT SHOULD FOCUS LESS ON REGULATION AND MANDATES AND MORE ON INVESTMENT IN PHYSICAL INFRASTRUCTURE LIKE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT SYSTEMS. INVESTMENT IN NATURE BASED ASSETS LIKE DUNES AND GROW MANGROVES, OFFSHORE IMPROVEMENTS LIKE BARRIER REEFS, AND INCENTIVES FOR RESIDENTS TO PROTECT THEIR HOMES THROUGH ENHANCED FLOOD PROTECTION AND ELEVATION. THE CITY AND ITS RESIDENTS AND HOAS SHOULD HOPEFULLY BE PARTNERS IN THIS EFFORT. AND THEN FINALLY, THE PAB. YOU PROBABLY ARE, OF COURSE, ARE AWARE OF THIS, BUT SHOULD BE AWARE OF SENATE BILL 180 AND THE IMPLICATIONS FOR THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE LEGISLATION IS UNDER CONSIDERATION IN THE CURRENT LEGISLATIVE LEGISLATIVE SESSION TO REPEAL OR MODIFY SB 180, REDUCING OR ELIMINATING ITS RESTRICTIONS ON LOCAL GOVERNMENT LAND USE PLANNING AND REGULATION. BUT IF THIS LEGISLATION DOESN'T PASS THIS WEEK BEFORE THE SESSION ENDS, THEN THESE RESTRICTIONS WILL REMAIN AND CITY STAFF AND THE PAB SHOULD BE MONITORING THIS AND UNDERSTAND THE IMPLICATIONS FOR THIS UPDATE. IF 180 RESTRICTIONS DO REMAIN IN PLACE. THANK YOU AND THANK YOU GUYS FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK. WE'RE VERY GRATEFUL AND APPRECIATIVE OF THE COMMITMENT THAT YOU HAVE FOR THIS IMPORTANT PROJECT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS AND I HAVE NO OTHER I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE SPEAKER AS WELL, PLEASE. I, I DIDN'T RECEIVE YOUR LETTER UNTIL THIS MORNING, BUT I READ IT. AND WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO, IF YOU DON'T MIND, CAN YOU EXPLAIN A LITTLE MORE YOUR YOUR IDEA ABOUT SB 180? IN OTHER WORDS, LET'S SUPPOSE IT'S NOT MODIFIED IN ANY WAY. IT'S NOT REPEALED. WHAT DO YOU SUGGEST THAT THE CITY DO WITH RESPECT TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN? IF IT'S NOT REPEALED OR MODIFIED? THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. AND I IF I CAN GET BACK TO YOU, I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION. I WOULD JUST LIKE TO CONSULT WITH THE COALITION, IF THAT'S OKAY. AND I CAN SEND YOU AN EMAIL IF YOU DON'T MIND. SURE. I DON'T WANT TO GIVE YOU WRONG INFORMATION AND THEN, YOU KNOW, SO IF THAT'S OKAY, I'LL SEND YOU. NO, NO, NO, I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH, MR. CHAIR. IF IF AT SOME POINT IN TIME YOU WANT TO KNOW ABOUT THAT, I CAN INFORM THE BOARD. SB 180 AND THE FIX GLITCH BILL, I THINK COULD BE APPROPRIATE NOW WHILE THE WHILE THE PUBLIC STILL. YES. SO THERE IS A BILL UNDER CONSIDERATION. THEY'RE CALLING IT A FIX BILL OR A GLITCH BILL. AS YOU KNOW, A LOT OF LOCAL OFFICIALS WERE UPSET WHEN SB 180 WAS PASSED BECAUSE IT WAS SO COMPREHENSIVE AND A LOT OF PEOPLE BELIEVED THAT IT WAS APPLICABLE TO DAMAGED PROPERTY AND NOT APPLICABLE TO ALL PROPERTIES. SO THERE HAS BEEN A HOUSE OR THERE HAS BEEN A SENATE BILL. I BELIEVE, GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS, IT'S NOT A PERFECT BILL YET, AND I DON'T BELIEVE THAT IT HAS. I DON'T BELIEVE THE HOUSE HAS A COMPANION BILL YET. SO WE'RE WAITING TO SEE WHETHER OR NOT THAT IS TAKEN UP ON THE FLOOR AND HOW IT IS TAKEN UP. BUT THE SPEAKER IS CORRECT. THERE IS A BILL. THE UPSHOT OF IT IS THAT UNDER SENATE BILL 180, WHEN LOCAL GOVERNMENTS HAVE BEEN SUBMITTING TO THE STATE DEPARTMENT OF ECONOMIC COMMERCE FOR REVIEW THEIR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENTS, THE STATE HAS TAKEN IT UPON THEMSELVES, ODDLY, TO INVOKE SB 180. AND EVEN THOUGH SB 180 STATES IN ITS LANGUAGE THAT THIS IS A, THIS IS A LAW FOR LOCAL PROPERTY OWNERS AND BUSINESSES, TO INVOKE THE STATE ON ITS OWN IS INVOKING IT AND SAYING YOU'RE YOU'RE YOU'RE AMENDMENT MAY BE MORE BURDENSOME AND RESTRICTIVE. 
          SOME LOCAL GOVERNMENTS HAVE CHOSEN TO IGNORE THE STATE AND JUST MOVE FORWARD WITH IT AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS. BUT I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE VERY HOPEFUL THAT THE NEW LEGISLATION IS 
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GOING TO DO WHAT IT SHOULD DO, WHICH IS MAKE THAT LEGISLATION APPLICABLE TO DAMAGED PROPERTIES AND NOT TO ALL PROPERTIES IN THE JURISDICTION. THERE'S SOME OTHER ASPECTS TO IT, BUT I DON'T REALLY THINK IT'S NECESSARY TO GET INTO THE DETAILS OF IT. BUT I'LL LET YOU KNOW AS THINGS TRANSPIRE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR INSIGHT. IT IS AN IMPORTANT BILL AND HAS BEEN A REAL FACTOR IN PLANNING, SO KEEP US INFORMED. THANK YOU. ERICA. HOW DO YOU WANT TO PROCEED? WE HAVE THE CONSULTANT TEAM HERE TO GIVE YOU A PRESENTATION. THEY WILL TOUCH ON A RECAP OF THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT EFFORTS THAT WAS IN YOUR PACKET. YOU HAD A IT WAS THE DRAFT OR THE PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT SUMMARY REPORT WAS IN YOUR PACKET. THAT JUST TOUCHES ON THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT THAT WE'VE HAD TO DATE. AND THEN ALSO THEY'LL GO THROUGH THEY HAVE A PRESENTATION ON THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS. IS THE BOARD HAPPY HEARING FROM THEM BEFORE WE COMMENT OKAY. THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING. I'M LAURA DEJOHN. I'M PRINCIPAL PLANNER WITH JOHNSON ENGINEERING HERE ON BEHALF OF THE CONSULTANT TEAM. USUALLY YOU SEE CHRISTY FISHER, MY COLLEAGUE FROM JOHNSON. SHE'S TENDING TO HER HEALTH TODAY. SO YOU'LL GET MORE TIME WITH ME INSTEAD OF HER. I ALSO HAVE WITH ME LEANNE KING WITH CLARION AND ASSOCIATES, WHO HAS HELPED ROUND OUT THE TEAM WITH FUTURE LAND USE AND HOUSING RELATED MATTERS. ALSO JOINING US VIRTUALLY AND HOPEFULLY VISIBLE ON YOUR SCREEN IS AARON DADY. SHE IS OUR EXPERT IN RESILIENCE AND SHE'LL CHIME IN. SHE'S HAVING TO JUGGLE A FEW MEETINGS TODAY AND HOPEFULLY WORK, WORK INTO THE SCHEDULE HERE AS WE GO THROUGH BRIEFING YOU ON ON WHAT'S BEFORE YOU TODAY. ALSO SHE DIDN'T OKAY. THANKS FOR THE UPDATE DAVID. 
          WE'LL WE'LL BE AGILE TO TO BRING AARON IN WHEN SHE CAN. CAROLYN USHER IS ALSO WITH US WHO IS WITH CMA OUTREACH WHO HELPED LEAD ALL THE PUBLIC OUTREACH EFFORTS. YOU'VE RECEIVED A LOT OF MATERIAL TO TALK ABOUT TODAY. AND JUST TO BE CLEAR, YOU'RE RECEIVING A WORK IN PROGRESS DRAFT, SO I'M GLAD THE CHAIR MENTIONED THERE ARE TYPOS. THERE ARE SOME STRUCTURAL FIXES WE NEED TO MAKE. WE HOPE TO BE ENGAGING YOU IN OUR DRAFTING PROCESS. SO YOU'RE SEEING LIVE WHERE WE'RE AT TODAY AND THAT WE'RE WORKING VERY HARD TO GEAR UP FOR NEXT BIG MILESTONES. ONE IS THE APRIL 13TH COUNCIL WORKSHOP, AND THIS IS FOR ONE OF THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO WANTED TO HEAR SCHEDULE APRIL 13TH COUNCIL WORKSHOP WILL BE AN UPDATED VERSION OF A WORKING DRAFT, AND YOU WILL SEE THIS IN FINAL FORM MAY 13TH AT YOUR MAY 13TH PLANNING ADVISORY BOARD MEETING. FOR A FINAL CLEAN RESOLVED DRAFT. SO TODAY WE GET TO SEE WHERE WE'RE AT ALONG THE WAY AND HEAR FROM YOU SO THAT YOU CAN GUIDE US INTO THE NEXT ROUNDS OF REVISIONS THAT WE NEED TO MAKE. THIS KIND OF GRAPHIC SHOWS YOU THAT WE DID A LOT OF DATA COLLECTION ANALYSIS FOR SEVERAL MONTHS. WE'VE PERFORMED SOME PUBLIC OUTREACH, AS ERICA DESCRIBED, FROM OCTOBER THROUGH FEBRUARY, THE WEBSITE IS CONTINUES TO BE LIVE, AND COMMENTS CONTINUE TO BE ABLE TO BE MADE BY THE PUBLIC AT ALL TIMES. WE'RE HERE IN MARCH. VISITING WITH YOU WITH A WORKING DRAFT WILL SHOW AN UPDATED WORKING DRAFT TO THE COUNCIL DURING A WORKSHOP MEETING. APRIL 13TH. WILL BE BACK BEFORE YOU IN MAY, AND THEN THE ITEM GOES TO CITY COUNCIL FOR TRANSMITTAL TO THE STATE OF FLORIDA'S, DESCRIBED THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE. SO I MENTIONED THAT WE'RE DOING AN IN-PROGRESS DRAFT REVIEW WITH YOU. AND I HEARD YOU MENTIONED, CHAIR, THAT THE IDEAL WAY WILL BE TO GO ELEMENT BY ELEMENT. 
          AND SO WE HAVE BRIEF HIGHLIGHTS TO INTRODUCE EACH ELEMENT. AND THEN WE'LL JUST ENGAGE WITH YOU AND HEAR WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY. IS THAT A GOOD FORMAT THAT SEEMS SO APPROACHABLE TO ME. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. PERFECT. THIS MIGHT WE MIGHT END UP JUMPING SLIDES AROUND LADIES WHO ARE HELPING PARTICIPATE, BECAUSE THE ORDER OF THE PRESENTATION IS NOT EXACTLY ONE BY ONE. WE CAN MAKE THAT WORK. WE'LL DO JUMPING AROUND AND YOUR ASSOCIATE IS NOW ON THE SCREEN. PERFECT. OKAY. OUR TEAMS ALL HERE. HI, AARON. SO YOU ALL KNOW JUST BRIEFLY BACKGROUND, THAT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS A MANDATED, REQUIRED DOCUMENT THAT GUIDES THE GROWTH OF THE CITY. THE STATE OF FLORIDA MANDATES TEN AND 20 YEAR OUTLOOKS BE CONTEMPLATED 
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WHEN THE IN THE FORMULATION OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TODAY HAS ALL REQUIRED ELEMENTS THAT ARE LISTED HERE ON THE SCREEN. AND YOU'VE ALSO INTRODUCED THREE OPTIONAL ELEMENTS IN YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WHICH IS CONCURRENCY MANAGEMENT, YOUR VISION, AND A PUBLIC SCHOOL FACILITIES ELEMENT. YOU'LL SEE WE ARE MAINTAINING ALMOST ALL OF THE CURRENT FORMAT, BUT TWEAKING IT BY ADDING RESILIENCY AND DOING A COUPLE MERGERS OF OF ELEMENTS WHERE OUR DIRECTION CAME FROM WAS FROM THE CITY TELLING US TO BUILD A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT IMPLEMENTS AND INFUSES THE THE IDEAS OF THE CITY'S VISION, ADOPTED VISION THROUGHOUT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. SO THAT VISION WAS ADOPTED BACK IN 2024. 
          WE'RE WE'RE FILTERING THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THROUGH THE LENS OF HOW DOES IT OR DOESN'T IT IMPLEMENT YOUR VISION AND TRYING TO MAKE THE RELEVANT EDITS TO THE COMP PLAN TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN. COMMUNITY CHARACTER. AND WE KNOW RESILIENCY AND EXTERNAL GROWTH PRESSURES HAVE BEEN THOSE DRIVING FORCES THAT WE KNOW ARE IMPORTANT. THIS HAS BEEN DEVELOPED OVER MANY MONTHS. YOU ALL GOT A CURRENT CONDITIONS REPORT AND AN EVALUATION OF OURS BACK IN SEPTEMBER 2025. WE'VE PERFORMED OUR PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT SERIES, AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT ALREADY IN NOVEMBER AND FEBRUARY, WITH ONLINE AND IN-PERSON ENGAGEMENT WITH THE PUBLIC. AND OF COURSE, WE'VE GOTTEN YOUR INPUTS. THERE'S A PACKAGE OF MATERIAL ERICA PROVIDED, WHICH WERE COMMENTS THAT PAB HAD EVOLVED OVER A 2018 TO 2021 TIME PERIOD. 
          THOSE WERE VALUABLE COMMENTS THAT WE BUILT INTO OUR WORK. STAFF HAS DONE, DONE A GREAT JOB OF FANNING OUT AND TRYING TO GET DIFFERENT STAFF MEMBERS INVOLVED AND GETTING THEIR FEEDBACK TO US. SO WE'VE INCORPORATED STAFF INPUT, AND I'LL MENTION IN YOUR BACKUP MATERIAL A SERIES OF COMMENTS THAT MR. FOWLER AUTHORED AND YOU ALL ENDORSED WERE DELIVERED TO US. AND WE DID A AN ATTEMPT TO RESPOND TO ALL THOSE COMMENTS. THEY THEY WERE GOOD COMMENTS AND SOME WE COULD TACKLE NOW, BUT SOME WE'RE GOING TO TACKLE AS WE KEEP REFINING, ESPECIALLY INTRODUCTORY MATERIAL, ORGANIZATIONAL OR HIGHLIGHTING CERTAIN THINGS IN THE DOCUMENT. WE WANT TO GET THROUGH THIS LIKE HEAVY CONTENT FIRST AND THEN DO THOSE REFINEMENTS BECAUSE THEY WERE GOOD, GOOD INPUT. HOW DO YOU READ THE PLAN? AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT SOME, SOMETIMES YOU REFER TO THEM AS CHAPTERS, BUT PER THE THE STATE, THESE ARE ELEMENTS. AND WE RETAINED THE TEN ELEMENTS IN GREEN ON YOUR SCREEN. TWO OPTIONAL ELEMENTS WHICH WAS PUBLIC SCHOOL FACILITIES AND A MERGER OCCURRED. SO IN THE BACK, BACK, BACK OF THE THE PLAN THAT WE GAVE YOU, YOU'LL SEE A STRIKETHROUGH VERSION OF THE PUBLIC SCHOOL FACILITY ELEMENT. AND YOU'LL SEE FOOTNOTES THROUGHOUT THE DOCUMENT THAT REFER TO HOW THE PIECES OF THAT ELEMENT HAVE BEEN WOVEN INTO THE APPROPRIATE PLACES IN THE THE DRAFT PLAN. RESILIENCY IS A NEW ELEMENT THAT WE COULD PROBABLY CONCENTRATE A LOT ON TODAY WITH AARON'S HELP. WHAT YOU'RE NOT SEEING NOW IS THE PLAN INTRODUCTION, WHICH WILL INCORPORATE OUR COMMUNITY PROFILE DATA. YOU'RE NOT SEEING THE DEFINITIONS AND YOU'RE NOT SEEING THE MAPS. THAT'S YOU KNOW, WE'RE IN PROGRESS AND YOU WILL GET TO SEE THOSE AS WE BUILD UP TO THE FOR THE APRIL 13TH CITY COUNCIL AND BACK AGAIN TO YOU ON MAY 13TH. EACH ELEMENT DOES HAVE ITS INTRODUCTORY INTRODUCTORY SECTION. SOME OF THOSE NEED ATTENTION THERE, SOME ARE OUTDATED AND WILL BE TRYING TO UPDATE THOSE IN THE NEXT MONTH. 
          EACH ELEMENT HAS GOALS, OBJECTIVES, POLICIES AND WE HAVE INTRODUCED THE NEW CONCEPT OF ACTIONS AGAIN THAT YOU'LL SEE BY READING THROUGH THE DOCUMENT. SOMETIMES WE HIT THE MARK AND WE GOT AN ACTION THAT IS A, YOU KNOW, NOTABLE TYPE OF ACTION THAT NEEDS TO OCCUR, THE STAFF NEEDS TO DO OR THAT SOMEONE NEEDS TO DO INVOLVING PERFORMING A TASK OR PRODUCING A DELIVERABLE. SOMETIMES WE STILL NEED TO FINESSE AND GET GET THOSE THINGS STRAIGHTENED OUT. BUT THE IDEA OF BEING ACTIONABLE, WE'VE HEARD, IS IMPORTANT, AND THAT'S WHY WE'VE INTRODUCED ACTIONS. THE IDEA OF A FINAL CHAPTER, SO TO SPEAK, THAT GATHERS ALL THOSE ACTIONS AND MAYBE ALLOWS FOR MONITORING, IS SOMETHING WE'VE HEARD AS A COMMENT WE CAN LOOK AT. THIS DOCUMENT YOU'RE SEEING. OF COURSE, STRIKETHROUGH IS DELETION PROPOSED DELETIONS AND UNDERLINE IS PROPOSED ADDITIONS. FOOTNOTES ARE IMPORTANT IN THIS VERSION BECAUSE WE HAD TO KEEP 
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TRACK OF WHERE EITHER NEW CONTENT CAME FROM, WE CITED WHERE IT CAME FROM OR WHOSE INFLUENCE IT WAS. WE MADE OUR BEST EFFORT TO TIE BACK TO VISION THEMES BY ADDING IN FOOTNOTES WHY WHY SOMETHING WAS BEING ADDED BECAUSE IT RELATES TO A VISION THEME, AND THEN YOU GET NOTATIONS TO INDICATE THAT IT MIGHT HAVE THERE MIGHT BE LANGUAGE THAT ALREADY EXISTED IN THE COMP PLAN. IT'S JUST BEING MOVED TO A NEW, NEW LOCATION. SO WITH THAT, WE CAN NOW START WALKING THROUGH THE ELEMENTS. I'M GOING TO HAND IT OFF TO LEANNE TO TALK ABOUT VISION AND FUTURE LAND USE AND HOUSING. GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIR. MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING ADVISORY BOARD. AGAIN, LEANNE KING, DIRECTOR WITH CLARION ASSOCIATES. SO I WILL BE TALKING ABOUT, AS LAURA MENTIONED, THREE ELEMENTS THE VISION ELEMENT, THE FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT AND THE HOUSING ELEMENT. I'VE GOT BRIEF OVERVIEW HERE, BUT HAPPY TO KIND OF TAKE COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS AS WE'RE FOCUSING ON EACH OF THESE. FOR THE VISION ELEMENT THAT WAS UPDATED, AS YOU KNOW, IN AUGUST OF 2024, THERE WAS ALSO A WORK PLAN THAT WAS ORIGINALLY PART OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. THAT IS NO LONGER PART OF THAT ELEMENT. 
          IT'S GOING TO BE REMOVED FROM MUNICODE. SO THAT'S NOT INCLUDED IN THE DRAFT THAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU. WE ARE NOT RECOMMENDING ANY CHANGES OTHER THAN FORMATTING IT INTO THE NEW DESIGN TEMPLATE. SO THIS IS THE VISION ELEMENT AS IT IS CURRENTLY ADOPTED. THE THEMES FROM THE VISION ELEMENT ARE INFUSED THROUGHOUT THE REVISIONS THAT WE'VE GOT IN FRONT OF YOU TODAY. AND WE WILL BE ADDING SOME SYMBOLOGY IN THE FUTURE SO THAT THERE CAN BE A DIRECT TIE BETWEEN VISION ELEMENT AND SOME OF THE COMPONENTS THAT YOU SEE AND THE OTHER CHAPTERS. LET ME, BEFORE I LEAVE HERE, ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THE VISION ELEMENT. 
          YES, JUST A QUESTION. SO THE IN THE VISION STATEMENT PAGES, YOU KNOW, FOUR, FIVE, SIX, ETC. YOU DON'T PROPOSE ANY CHANGES TO TO THAT. IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? THAT'S CORRECT. AT THIS STAGE WE ARE NOT RECOMMENDING ANY CHANGES TO THE TO THE ELEMENT. SO THE THE PUBLIC SESSIONS THAT THAT WE HAD THE INFORMATION GATHERING, SHOULDN'T THOSE BE REFLECTED IN AN UPDATED VISION STATEMENT. SO I THINK THAT GOOD STATEMENT. YES. I AGREE WITH YOU COMPLETELY. I THINK THAT FROM MY PERSPECTIVE AND I'M SPEAKING PRIMARILY WITH REGARD TO THE CHAPTERS THAT I'M OR THE ELEMENTS THAT I'M MOST LIKE MOST INVOLVED WITH FUTURE LAND USE AND HOUSING, WE DIDN'T NECESSARILY SEE THAT THERE WERE MAJOR ADJUSTMENTS THAT NEED TO BE MADE TO THE VISION ELEMENT AND WHAT WAS COMING OUT OF THE COMMUNITY. ENGAGEMENT WAS VERY MUCH IN SUPPORT OF THE GUIDANCE THAT'S INCLUDED WITHIN THE VISION ELEMENT, AND THAT WE WERE LEVERAGING THAT COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT TO BE MORE SPECIFIC IN OTHER ELEMENTS OF PLAN ABOUT HOW TO ACTUALLY GO ABOUT IMPLEMENTING THAT THROUGH POLICY OR ACTION. DOES THAT IS THAT HELPFUL? I CAN I WOULD ALSO ADD SO JUST SOME CLARIFICATION TO THE VISION ITSELF. THE VISION DOCUMENT, IF YOU RECALL, WAS ADOPTED IN WHAT WAS A 2020 PROCESS. IT WAS INCORPORATED AS AN ELEMENT OF THE COMP PLAN IN 2024, AND IT WAS VERY IMPORTANT TO THE COMMUNITY AT THE TIME THAT IT WAS ADOPTED. AS IT WAS, IT WAS ADOPTED INTO THE COMP PLAN AS IT WAS APPROVED THROUGH ALL THE COMMUNITY EFFORTS THAT HAD ITS OWN SERIES OF COMMUNITY OUTREACH. AND THAT VISIONING PROCESS WAS ITS OWN PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT PROCESS. I THINK WHAT WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY HERE IS WE WE DO HAVE AN INTRODUCTION TO THE COMP PLAN SECTION, AND I THINK IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE TO INCORPORATE WHAT YOU'RE SPEAKING ABOUT, THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT THAT WE DID FOR THIS PROCESS. WE CAN INCORPORATE A LOT OF THAT INFORMATION INTO THE INTRODUCTION TO THE COMP PLAN AS A WHOLE. THAT SOUNDS LIKE A TERRIFIC APPROACH, AT LEAST FROM MY PERSPECTIVE. THANK YOU. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS AT THIS POINT, JUST TO REINFORCE THE THE COMMENTS AND FROM A PUBLIC POINT OF VIEW IS THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT WAS RELATED TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. WE PREVIOUSLY HAD PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT RELATING TO THE VISION FOR US TO USE ONE ENGAGEMENT TO ADJUST ANOTHER WOULD BE, I THINK, SOMEWHAT IMPROPER BECAUSE WE HAVE TO HAVE ORIGINAL SOURCE. AND I THINK THE THE VISION STATEMENTS, LET'S SAY, OR THE VISION SECTION HAS BEEN IN THE PUBLIC AND CREATED BY PUBLIC INTERACTION. SO I THINK IT'S QUITE RIGHT THAT IT STAYS INTACT. CONCERNS ABOUT IT CAN BE ECHOED AND ADJUSTED THROUGHOUT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. OKAY, GREAT. WE'RE IN AGREEMENT. CONTINUE. BUT BUT MR. CHAIR, WERE WE GOING TO ALLOW FOR SOME STATEMENTS OR OR GENERAL SUGGESTIONS AT SOME STAGE FROM THE BOARD MEMBERS 
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ABOUT THE WHOLE PROCESS AND SO FORTH? IS IT MORE APPROPRIATE DURING THE BEGINNING OR THE END? I WOULD SAY THE BEGINNING, BUT BUT IT SURE. WELL, THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO ASK EARLIER. 
          BUT IF PEOPLE WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT NOW, I THINK AND I'M JUST TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HIGH LEVEL COMMENTS. GO AHEAD. OKAY, GOOD. WE CAN ASK ME. I CAN'T FIND MY NOTES. HERE WE GO. 
          IT'S ON ONE PAGE I KNOW. SO YOU KNOW, IN IN 2024, COUNCIL MEMBER PENMAN SAID THAT WE'RE IN AN INFLECTION POINT HERE IN THE CITY AND INDEED WE ARE. AND SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY I'M EXCITED TO BE WORKING WITH OUR CONSULTANTS, WITH THE CITY ATTORNEYS, THE PAB, THE CITY COUNCIL, AND SO FORTH TO GET THIS RIGHT. AND SO THIS IS OUR ONE CHANCE TO REALLY MAKE A BIG IMPACT ON THE NEXT 20 YEARS HERE AT HERE IN NAPLES. AND SO FOR THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THIS ECHOES SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT WERE MADE BY THE SPEAKERS, THE PUBLIC SPEAKERS, A FEW MOMENTS AGO. I THINK THAT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN NEEDS TO HAVE VERY PRESCRIPTIVE LANGUAGE, SHALL AND REQUIRE NOT ASPIRATIONAL LANGUAGE LIKE THE THE THE SPEAKER SAID EARLIER. 
          JUST BE PRECISE. SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE HAVING PRESCRIPTIVE LANGUAGE THAT'S PRECISE. WE HAVE TO DEFINE OUR TERMS AND CONCEPTS. AGAIN REPEATING WHAT ONE OF THE MEMBERS OR ONE OF THE PUBLIC MENTIONED REMOVE DISCRETIONARY LANGUAGE. WE NEED TO EMPHASIZE RESIDENTS FIRST CONCEPTS ALL THE WAY THROUGH IN EVERY ELEMENT. AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN THERE ARE CLOSE CALLS, WHEN WE'RE BALANCING RESIDENTS RIGHTS VERSUS DEVELOPMENT REDEVELOPMENT, WE ALWAYS HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE RESIDENTS ARE TAKEN FIRST AND FOREMOST IN ALL OF THOSE DECISIONS. I THINK THAT THE VISION AND THEN THE UPDATED MATERIAL WE RECEIVED, OR INFORMATION WE RECEIVED FROM THE PUBLIC NEEDS TO BE FAITHFULLY TRANSLATED, TRANSFORMED INTO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. AND SO, WITH RESPECT TO THE WAY THE THE ELEMENTS EACH ELEMENT IS STRUCTURED, I'M A FIRM BELIEVER, AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE, THAT WE NEED TO HAVE A DATA AND ANALYSIS PLAN. AND A GOOD EXAMPLE FOR THAT IS THE THE PALM BEACH ONE. BUT THERE'S MANY EXAMPLES OF OF VERY GOOD DATA AND ANALYSIS DOESN'T NEED TO BE THE THE PALM BEACH PLAN BECAUSE IT IS SO EXTENSIVE. BUT WE NEED TO HAVE SOMETHING THAT TAKES A STEP IN THAT DIRECTION. WE NEED A STRONG INTRODUCTION. 
          I THINK WE NEED TO ADD, AND I'D INVITE ANDREW'S COMMENTS ON THIS. WE I THINK WE NEED TO ADD A PURPOSE AND INTENT SECTION AFTER THE INTRO, BECAUSE IN MY REVIEW OF OTHER COMPREHENSIVE PLANS AND THE LORE SURROUNDING IT, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT. I UNDERSTAND THAT PURPOSE AND INTENT ARE INCLUDED IN THE PLAN, BECAUSE THAT GIVES THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT, THE AB, THE CITY COUNCIL, AND A BASIS FOR UNDERSTANDING WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO GO WITH IT AND AND IMPLEMENTING AS WRITTEN AND MORE IMPORTANTLY PERHAPS, IS IF IT'S CHALLENGED, IF WE HAVE A STRONG PURPOSE AND INTENT SECTION, THEN WHAT HAPPENS IS WE HAVE A VERY FIRM BASIS FOR WHICH COURTS TO DETERMINE WHAT EXACTLY WE MET IN OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. VERY IMPORTANT, I THINK. SO THEN WE'VE GOT OUR GOALS, OBJECTIVES, POLICIES. AND THEN I THINK THAT A SECTION ON AND I LOVE THE ACTIONS IDEA AND MONITORING AND EVALUATION IS IS IN IT'S A SECTION THAT I THINK WOULD BE IMPORTANT AS WELL AS COORDINATION AND IMPLEMENTATION. 
          AND SO. I APOLOGIZE FOR FOR BEING WHO I AM SOMETIMES, BUT I HAVE PREPARED SOME DOCUMENTS THAT I'D LIKE TO SHARE WITH EVERYBODY. AND I'LL JUST WALK AROUND AND PASS THIS AROUND. 
          AND SO THESE ARE THREE DIFFERENT DOCUMENTS. AND YOU KNOW, THERE'S I'LL GIVE YOU TWO COPIES OF THAT. SO, SO THAT THERE CAN BE SOME FOR, FOR THE STAFF AS WELL. DO THEY HAVE. 
          YEAH. OKAY. YEAH. OKAY. AND THEN, AND THEN THERE'S, THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME GOING OVER THAT WAY. BUT IF YOU HAVE EXTRA ONES. AND SO WHAT I'VE DONE IS I'M VERY INTERESTED IN THE, IN 
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TWO OF THE ITEMS IN PARTICULAR. ONE IS THE RESILIENCE ITEM OR ELEMENT. AND THE SECOND ONE IS WHAT I CALL HISTORIC PRESERVATION, NEIGHBORHOOD CHARACTER AND QUALITY OF LIFE ELEMENT. I'D LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING LIKE THIS HISTORICAL, HISTORIC PRESERVATION, ETC. 
          ADDED AS AN ELEMENT TO OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. WHAT IT DOES IS IT'S AN ATTEMPT TO MORE PRECISELY DESCRIBE WHAT WE WANT TO PRESERVE FROM AN HISTORIC BASIS IN IN NAPLES, ALSO TO HELP DEFINE SOME OF THE TERMS THAT WE'RE INTERESTED IN, IN TERMS OF QUALITY OF LIFE AND, AND SO FORTH. AND SO YOU'LL SEE THOSE TWO THINGS. WHAT I DID TO DEVELOP THOSE TWO ELEMENTS WAS TO REVIEW AROUND 15 OR 18, SOMETHING LIKE THAT, DIFFERENT COMPREHENSIVE PLANS FROM CITIES ALL OVER THE OVER THE STATE. YOU KNOW, I'VE MENTIONED PALM BEACH MANY TIMES BEFORE. 
          APOLOGIES FOR THAT. DELRAY BEACH, BOCA RATON, SARASOTA, OTHERS THAT THOSE ARE THOSE ARE FOUR THAT COME TO MIND THAT ARE THAT ARE VERY STRONG. AND SO ANYWAY, WHAT I'VE DONE IS I'VE TAKEN THE BEST ELEMENTS FROM THOSE PLANS FOR HISTORICAL PRESERVATION AND FOR RESILIENCE. 
          NOW THESE AREN'T AND I'VE ADDED THINGS AND TWEAKS THAT I THINK ARE APPROPRIATE FOR NAPLES. AND SO TO ME THIS IS A MODEL FOR FOR PRESCRIPTIVE LANGUAGE, FOR PRECISION AND FOR THE OTHER ELEMENTS I MENTIONED. AND SO THIS IS NOT SOMETHING TO, YOU KNOW, CUT AND PASTE INTO OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. BUT I THINK IT HAS A LOT OF ELEMENTS THAT WE SHOULD FOCUS ON AND SEE IF WE CAN'T, CAN'T USE SOME OF THOSE IDEAS FOR OUR PLAN. IN PARTICULAR, LIKE I SAY, THE PRECISION AND THE PRESCRIPTION. AND THEN AS ONE OF THE MEMBERS OR PUBLIC SPEAKERS MENTIONED, 100% AGREE IS WE NEED TO HAVE REALLY PRECISELY DEFINED TERMS. SO WHAT I DID, AGAIN, IS I WENT THROUGH ALL OF THESE COMPREHENSIVE PLANS I REVIEWED AND THEN USE THE MIRACLE OF ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE TO PULL OUT THE DEFINITIONS FROM, FROM THE FROM THE PLANS I'VE SEEN ON COMPATIBILITY, QUALITY OF LIFE, NEIGHBORHOOD, CHARACTER, SCALE, TRANSITION OVER DEVELOPMENT, QUIET ENJOYMENT, INTENSITY, COMMUNITY CHARACTER. AND SO THOSE ARE SOME OF THE ONES THAT I THOUGHT WERE IMPORTANT TO HAVE PRECISELY DEFINED, SO THAT OUR VISION, AS EXPRESSED IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, CAN COME THROUGH VERY CLEARLY. SO AGAIN, SORRY FOR FOR THROWING ALL THESE DOCUMENTS AT YOU AND EVERYTHING, BUT I JUST REALLY FEEL VERY STRONGLY WE NEED TO HAVE STRONG DEFINITIONS, PRECISION AND PRESCRIPTION IN OUR PLANS. THE END. I DON'T KNOW QUITE HOW I FOLLOW THAT. ANYWAY, IN AGREEMENT WITH MY COLLEAGUE AND FROM THE PUBLIC, I THINK WE NEED WE NEED SOME TEETH IN THIS TO TO SUPPORT OUR VISION AND THE NICE FLUFFY LANGUAGE NEEDS TO GO. I ALSO BELIEVE, AND THIS WAS MENTIONED BY THE FLOOR, THAT THE VISION STATEMENT WE WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO HAVE MEASURABLE KPIS, KEY PERFORMANCE INDICATORS TO ENSURE THAT THE CITY STAFF, DEVELOPERS, ANYBODY ELSE BEING HELD TO THESE STANDARDS. SO THAT IS VERY BRIEFLY MY HIGH LEVEL THOUGHT. YES, I'D JUST LIKE TO SAY THAT ALL DUE RESPECT TO OUR CITY MANAGER, WHO IS HERE TODAY. THAT THESE TERMS OF RESILIENCY AND SUSTAINABILITY TO ME HAS MORE TO DO IN THE BEGINNING. WITH ALL DUE RESPECT TO THE WHOLE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT THE INFRASTRUCTURE THINGS THAT WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING FOR THE ALL THESE YEARS NOW AND HAVE REALLY HAVE TO TAKE PLACE, ESPECIALLY AFTER WHAT WE'VE SEEN CAN BE DONE IN A BAD SITUATION. AND I KNOW EVERYBODY HAS THE INTENT ON DOING ALL THIS, BUT IT WOULD BE UNBELIEVABLE THAT IF WE WERE READING THIS PLAN NOW, IF SOME OF THESE THINGS HAD BEEN DONE WAY, WAY BACK, IT'S NOBODY'S FAULT. BUT IT'S JUST IF THE WATER HAS A PLACE TO GO, IF THE IF THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE STREETS IS UPDATED, THEN TO ME THIS IS WHAT STARTS THAT INSTEAD OF JUST THE TERMS, THE CONCEPTS THAT ACTUALLY NOW THINK AND AND ABOUT IMPROVEMENT THAT THE WORD IMPROVEMENT AND THE SPIRIT OF THAT THAT DO THE 
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RESIDENTS LIKE IT. IS THAT WHAT THEY WANT. AND BESIDE THAT WHAT WHAT IS EVERYTHING? AND IT'S NEW DEVELOPMENT HAS TO BE AN IMPROVEMENT. BUT ALSO IT HAS TO BE DONE BECAUSE IT'S IT'S SO NECESSARY THAT THESE THINGS DON'T KEEP HAPPENING. AND I KNOW THAT EVERYBODY WANTS THIS TO BE DONE. IT MAY BE INCONVENIENCE, BUT IT AND IT WAS TALKED ABOUT IN THE ELECTION AND, AND THE PREVIOUS ONE AND AND WE HAVE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY START TO DO THESE THINGS. AND THEN THAT'S WHEN RESIDENTS, BESIDES THEIR COMMENTS COULD REALLY PARTICIPATE IN THE IMPROVEMENT OF THAT STREET AND HOW TO MAKE THINGS BETTER IN THEIR PROPERTY AS AND NOT JUST TOTALLY RELY ON THE CITY TO DO THINGS, BUT THEY ALSO ACTIVELY WANT TO PARTICIPATE. AND TO ME, THAT'S THIS WHOLE SPIRIT OF THIS THING. AND I JUST I JUST HOPE IT CAN HAPPEN. ANY OTHER. YOU'RE GOOD. ANDREW. YES. A FEW POINTS FROM A JOURNALISTIC POINT OF VIEW RATHER THAN THE SPECIFICS. THE WORD I'VE CHOSE TO USE IS CHEESE. IT WILL. PLEASE ALI IS EPISTEMOLOGICAL. IN OTHER WORDS, GETTING ALL THE EXPERTS INVOLVED. I THOUGHT YOU'D LIKE THAT ONE, ALI. GETTING ALL THE EXPERTS, GETTING ALL THE EXPERTS INVOLVED AND THE PARTICIPANTS. MY BACKGROUND AND. THE WAY I COME TO THINGS IS USING PARTICIPATIVE ACTION RESEARCH, GETTING EVERYBODY WHO'S WHO COULD BE TOUCHED BY ANYTHING THAT'S GOING ON INVOLVED AND GETTING THEIR INPUT. AND I USE THE TERM EXPERT VERY CAREFULLY BECAUSE YOU CAN INTERPRET, I USE THE FARMER ANALOGY. A FARMER IS AN EXPERT BECAUSE IT CAN BE DETERMINED AS A MAN OUTSTANDING IN HIS FIELD. IT DOESN'T MEAN THE ARE AN EXPERT. IN OTHER WORDS, WE NEED TO LOOK AS TO WHAT GIVES THEM THAT CREDENTIAL. JUST LIKE THE INFORMATION WE GATHER, WHERE IS THE SOURCE COMING FROM AND HOW IS IT IF WE STATE THE SOURCES, IF WE MAKE ANY ADJUSTMENTS LATER ON IN TIME, WE KNOW WHERE THE ORIGINAL ERROR COMES FROM. 
          HENCE MY COMMENT PREVIOUSLY ABOUT LEAVING THE VISION STATEMENT. WE'VE BEEN THERE. 
          WE'VE GONE TO A PROCESS TO BUILD THAT SO WE KNOW WHERE THAT FOUNDATION IS. BUT AS WE ADD THINGS, WE WILL GENERATE A PLAN. THAT PLAN WILL GENERATE ACTIVITIES. THOSE ACTIVITIES NEED TO BE MONITORED SO THAT THEN THE PLAN CAN BE READJUSTED, REFINED, TO IMPROVE. IT'S HARD TO DO THAT WITHOUT, AS MR. FOWLER AND SOME OF THE SPEAKERS HAVE SAID, WITHOUT BEING SPECIFIC, IT'S HARD TO HAVE A PLAN THAT'S TOO SPECIFIC. SO WE DON'T WANT TO HANDCUFF PEOPLE OR A PROCESS TO THINGS THAT ARE GOING TO CHANGE WITHOUT OUR KNOWLEDGE. AN EXAMPLE BEING IS WE WILL USE THE TERM CLIMATE CLIMATE. ARE WE TALKING BUSINESS CLIMATE? ARE WE TALKING THE ENVIRONMENT? THE CLIMATE MEANS SO MANY DIFFERENT THINGS. JUST LIKE THE TERM. YOU KNOW, WE WE SEEM TO HANKER ON TO THIS SMALL TOWN CHARM. THE SMALL TOWN CHARM. IS THAT THE ONE WHERE THERE'S ONLY ONE RESTROOM WITHIN THE NEXT FIVE MILES? THE GAS STATION'S OUTSIDE. THERE'S THESE NEGATIVES WITH THOSE TERMINOLOGIES. SO WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL THAT WHILST THE SMALL TOWN CHARM CAN LIVE INSIDE THE VISION, IT SHOULD DEFINITELY NOT LIVE INSIDE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS HOW WE'RE GOING TO ACHIEVE THOSE VISIONS. IT DOESN'T NEED TO ECHO AND REPEAT THOSE THINGS. THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SHOULD BE IDENTIFYING. I MENTIONED AT THE JOINT MEETING. IT SHOULD BE IDENTIFYING THE EFFECTS OF THINGS GOING ON. I USE THE THE 3D, 4D FIVE, D 70. IT'S A STANDARD METHODOLOGY THAT'S USED THROUGH BUSINESS INTEGRATED MODELING. YOU KNOW WHERE YOU'RE LOOKING AT RATHER THAN JUST A BUILDING. OKAY, THAT BUILDING MAY BE BUILT. WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT BUILDINGS ARE CURRENTLY OCCUPYING THE CITY, WHAT BUILDINGS HAVE BEEN APPROVED BUT NOT YET PUT IN PLACE. AND THEN WE CAN GO ON FROM THAT. BUT THE MAIN THING THAT'S THE THE SIMPLE 2D AND 3D. BUT WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? HAVING THAT BUILDING, WHERE IS THE STRAIN ON THE RESOURCE, THE WATER, THE ELECTRICITY, THE TRAFFIC, ALL THOSE EFFECTS. AND THAT TAKES YOU THROUGH THE AND THE ACTUAL COST AND THEY TAKE YOU THROUGH WHAT ARE TODAY FAIRLY BASIC BUSINESS MODEL WITH SEVEN DIMENSIONS. THE REASON FOR THE SEVEN DIMENSIONS IS IT STOPS, DELAYS, UNFORESEEN CIRCUMSTANCES APPEARING FURTHER DOWN THE PIPELINE. AND THAT'S 
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WHERE I'M HOPING. AND I DO SEE SOME SOME EVIDENCE, BUT I ALSO SEE AN AWFUL LACK OF EVIDENCE OF HOW THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS GOING TO ENSURE THAT THESE AREAS HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED AND IF IT'S A FUTURE ISSUE, THEY CAN'T STATE HOW THEY'LL BE IDENTIFIED. BUT THE FACT THAT THERE IS A MECHANISM TO IDENTIFY THEM, MY GREATEST CONCERN EXTENDS TO NAPLES, MAINLY AS A CITY, AND IS THE MEMBERS WHO MAKE UP THAT CITY BEING MAINLY COUNCIL MEMBERS AND RESIDENTS, IS OUR INABILITY GOING BACK TO THE EPISTEMOLOGY TO GET MORE INPUT FROM MORE PEOPLE? WE'VE HAD SPEAKERS TODAY WHO HAVE GOT A LOT TO OFFER, BUT WE'RE SORT OF LIKE FINDING THEM BY ACCIDENT. I DO NOT HAVE THE SOLUTION OF HOW TO GET THESE INPUTS IN PLAY, FOR WHAT I AM ABSOLUTELY SURE WITH, AND RESEARCH SHOWS THAT IF YOU GET THAT INPUT ONE, IT STOPS, DELAYS, TWO IT ENHANCES THE END PRODUCT. AND THREE, YOU'VE GOT A JOURNEY WITH A GROUP OF PEOPLE RATHER THAN 1 OR 2 PEOPLE SELECTED PEOPLE. AND I DO FEEL THAT AS AN ORGANIZATION, A CITY, A NAPLES CITY, AND WHATEVER THAT MEANS, ORGANIZATION, WE ARE MASSIVELY FAILING ON OUR EFFECTIVE PARTICIPATION WITH, YOU KNOW, WITH BUSINESSES, WITH RESIDENTS, OUR INTERACTIONS WITH OTHER COUNCILS, WITH TALLAHASSEE, WITH THE AIRPORT AUTHORITY, WITH WE HAVE INTERACTIONS ALMOST MORE LIKE WARS AS OPPOSED TO ENGAGEMENT. AND IT IS VERY DOABLE. AND MATTER OF FACT, IT'S VERY IT'S A GREAT PRIORITY THAT WE CAN HAVE USEFUL, EFFECTIVE INTERACTIONS WITH ANOTHER BODY THAT WE MAY NOT AGREE WITH. AND I THINK THINGS LIKE THAT NEED TO BE INCORPORATED INTO THE INTO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. AN EXAMPLE THAT JUST TAKING THE AIRPORT, NOT ITS SPECIFICS, BUT AS A BODY WHEREBY WE SAY WE'RE GOING TO HAVE REGULAR MEETINGS. WELL, THAT'S THAT'S NOT WE NEED TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE MEAT OR WHETHER IT'S AN WHETHER IT'S THE COLLIER, THE COUNTY. WHAT DOES THOSE OUTCOME, WHAT IS EXPECTED TO HAPPEN. SO WE CAN ACTUALLY THEN THAT'S OUR PLAN. WE CAN SEE AS IT BEING EFFECTIVE AND WE CAN ADJUST OUR MODUS OPERANDI ACCORDINGLY. AND I THINK THOSE ARE THE PROTECTION MEASURES THAT I'D LIKE TO SEE BUILT INTO THE PLAN. SO IT CAN BE LIVED. IT CAN LIVE THROUGH ADVERSITY IF IT APPEARS. IT CAN ALSO LIVE THROUGH BENEFICIALS. AND THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO COVER. MR. MR. OH, I'LL WAIT I'LL WAIT TILL YOU'RE FINISHED. OKAY. I CAN ADDRESS A COUPLE OF THESE ISSUES. SO WITH REGARD SO GOING BACK TO WHAT THE CITY ATTORNEY'S JOB IS GOING TO BE IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER IS DELIVERED TO THE STATE FOR REVIEW AND ALL THE OTHER REVIEWING AGENCIES BEFORE ADOPTION IS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS COMPORT WITH THE COMMUNITY PLANNING ACT, AND THAT'S FOUND AT CHAPTER 163, PART TWO. AND IN THAT SECTION, AND IT'S NOT HARD TO READ. SO AT 163, 3164, IT, IT ACTUALLY LISTS THE, YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE COMMUNITY PLANNING ACT AND SOME HIGH LEVEL REASONS FOR THAT, BUT IT ALSO CONTAINS A LOT OF DEFINITIONS. SO A LOT OF DEFINITIONS CAN BE JUST REFERRED TO AT THE STATE LEVEL. BUT ONE THING THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT WITH REGARD TO THE GOALS OBJECTIVES AND POLICIES, THOSE ARE KEY TERMS THAT ARE WELL DEFINED. AND THEY GO FROM MORE GENERAL TO VERY SPECIFIC. AND FOR EXAMPLE, I'LL READ POLICY, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE GOALS. A GOAL MAY BE MULTIPLE OBJECTIVE OBJECTIVES. AND WITHIN EACH OBJECTIVE YOU'LL HAVE MAYBE MULTIPLE POLICIES. BUT A POLICY MEANS THE WAY IN WHICH A PROGRAM AND ACTIVITIES ARE CONDUCTED TO ACHIEVE AN IDENTIFIED GOAL. SO THERE IS A REQUIREMENT THAT THERE ARE, AS YOU'VE REFERRED TO, AS KPIS OR, YOU KNOW, OBJECTIVE, MEASURABLE WAYS OF DEALING WITH THINGS. NOW, WITH REGARD TO THE DATA AND ANALYSIS, BY LAW, YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN 
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MUST BE SUPPORTED BY PROFESSIONALLY ACCEPTED DATA AND ANALYSIS. MOST COMPREHENSIVE PLANS, AND I WOULD RECOMMEND DOING IT THIS WAY. IS THAT YES, YOU YOU DO RELY ON PROFESSIONALLY ACCEPTED DATA ANALYSIS, WHICH I'M SURE THEY ARE DOING, BUT YOU DON'T ADOPT IT INTO YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN BECAUSE EVERY TIME YOU WANT TO REEVALUATE THAT DATA ANALYSIS, THEN YOU WOULD HAVE TO POSSIBLY HAVE TO AMEND YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. SO TYPICALLY, YOU'LL SEE YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THEN THE APPENDIX TO IT OR VOLUME TWO OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, SO THAT THAT DATA AND ANALYSIS CONTINUES TO HAPPEN ON AN ONGOING BASIS. AS YOU ACHIEVE, HAVE YOU SEEK TO ACHIEVE YOUR GOALS, OBJECTIVES AND POLICIES. SO HOPEFULLY THAT ADDRESSES I MEAN, THERE'S NO I KNOW THAT PEOPLE ARE SAYING THERE NEEDS TO BE LESS ASPIRATIONAL DISCUSSIONS. SOME OF THE OBJECTIVES ARE OR GOALS ARE MORE GENERAL, BUT AS THEY FILTER DOWN TO YOUR POLICIES, THEY SHOULD BE MORE SPECIFIC. THAT THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, ONCE IT GETS TO THE STATE FOR REVIEW, THEY THEY COULD AND HAVE RULED THAT THIS IS TOO ASPIRATIONAL, NOT MEASURABLE. I'M NOT SURE THEY'LL DO IT NOW. BUT ONCE UPON A TIME WHEN THEY HAD REAL PLANNERS IN TALLAHASSEE THAT WERE EVALUATING THESE THINGS, THEY WOULD SAY, THIS IS NOT A MEASURABLE OBJECTIVE. YOU GO BACK AND DO IT. BUT THAT'S OUR THAT'S OUR JOB IS TO WORK WITH THE TEAM TO MAKE SURE THAT THE COMMUNITY PLANNING ACT IS BEING FOLLOWED. BUT THE DATA ANALYSIS PIECE WILL BE THERE. BUT I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT IT BE PART OF AN APPENDIX OR A VOLUME TWO BOOK OR SOMETHING NOT INCORPORATED INTO YOUR INTO YOUR ACTUAL COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, BUT REFERRED TO IN YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. HOPEFULLY THAT'S HELPFUL. OKAY. YES. GO AHEAD. ALSO, I WOULD BEFORE WE SEND THE CONSULTANTS AWAY WITH A DIRECTION TO, YOU KNOW, TRY TO INCORPORATE A HISTORIC PRESERVATION. WE HAVE TO KEEP IN MIND ANYTHING YOU PUT IN YOUR COMP PLAN, THE WHOLE POINT IS THAT THEN YOU WOULD FOLLOW UP WITH ENACTING STUFF IN YOUR LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. AND MR. COUGHLIN, YOU PROBABLY REMEMBER, I THINK THREE TIMES IN THE 19 YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN IN THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT HERE, WE HAVE BROUGHT FORTH HISTORIC PRESERVATION REGULATIONS TO PROPOSE TO ADD INTO OUR CODE, AND IT HAS BEEN TURNED DOWN EVERY SINGLE TIME. SO THERE HAS NOT BEEN AN APPETITE IN THE COMMUNITY HISTORICALLY, AS RECENT AS 2021, TO INCORPORATE ACTUAL HISTORIC PRESERVATION REGULATIONS INTO YOUR CODE OF ORDINANCES. I THINK AS SO, I JUST I WOULD ENCOURAGE A LOT MORE COMMUNITY INPUT IF THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO INCORPORATE INTO THE COMP PLAN, BECAUSE IT HAS NOT HISTORICALLY BEEN RECEIVED WELL OR IT HAS TO DATE NOT BEEN VOTED TO INCORPORATE INTO THE CODE OF ORDINANCES. WE HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS CURRENTLY IN CHAPTER 16. WE DO HAVE 180 DAY DELAY ON DEMOLITION OF HISTORIC PROPERTIES. NOW THAT ONLY APPLIES TO WE HAVE A VERY SMALL NUMBER OF DESIGNATED HISTORIC PROPERTIES. YOU HAVE A HISTORIC DISTRICT AND YOU HAVE CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURES WITHIN THAT DISTRICT. IT'S A SMALL NUMBER, BUT THAT IS HISTORIC PRESERVATION REGULATIONS RELATE LESS TO NEIGHBORHOOD CHARACTER AND NEIGHBORHOOD PATTERN, AND MORE TO WHAT YOU CAN AND CANNOT DO WITH THAT SPECIFIC STRUCTURE IN THAT DISTRICT. SO I WOULD DEFINITELY WANT TO HAVE A LITTLE MORE PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT ON THAT ENDEAVOR. BEFORE WE GO TOO FAR DOWN THAT ROAD, COULD YOU JUST GIVE A LITTLE BIT MORE BACKGROUND TO WHAT YOU JUST SAID ABOUT LACK OF PUBLIC COMMITMENT? BECAUSE FRANKLY, I'M SHOCKED WITH THAT, GIVEN EVERYTHING THAT WE GET FOR THE VISION STATEMENT. IT'S A CONCEPT THAT EVERYONE FEELS, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO KEEP THE CONCEPT, BUT THEN WHEN YOU COME TO ACTUAL LANGUAGE WITH SO AND YOU KNOW, THERE ARE PEOPLE HAVE THE THE OPPORTUNITY NOW OR THE ABILITY TO REGISTER WITH THE STATE WITH SHPO DESIGNATE THEMSELVES AS HISTORIC. IT'S A VOLUNTARY THING. NOW, IT'S NOT SOMETHING THE CITY DOESN'T IMPOSE HISTORIC PRESERVATION REGULATIONS ON ANYONE. IT'S NOT IN OUR CODE. YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO VOLUNTARILY DESIGNATE VERY FEW PROPERTIES ACTUALLY DO, BECAUSE ONCE YOU DO THAT, YOU ARE VERY LIMITED ON WHAT YOU CAN DO WITH THAT STRUCTURE. I THINK THE RESILIENCY, YOU KNOW, WHAT WHAT YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO DO TO IMPROVE THOSE ORIGINAL LOW LYING COTTAGES AND STUFF LIKE THAT. THERE'S SOME HESITATION THERE. BUT I GOING MOST RECENTLY WAS IN 2021. WE BROUGHT FORWARD AN ORDINANCE. I BELIEVE IT CAME THROUGH THE PAB, AND IT DID COME THROUGH MANY, MANY ROUNDS THROUGH THE PAB. AND IT IN THE END WAS NOT 
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ADOPTED INTO THE CODE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. IT'S VERY INTERESTING. YEAH, I THINK WE'VE GOT A PROCESS CHALLENGE HERE GUYS. NUMBER ONE, I WANT TO COMPLIMENT MR. FOWLER FOR TAKING AS MUCH TIME AND EFFORT HE'S DONE TO TRY TO PRESENT US SOMETHING. THERE'S ALWAYS A BUT TO MY COMMENTS, BUT. WE ARE NOT GOING TO BE IN A POSITION TO ADOPT WHAT YOU'VE GIVEN US TODAY. AND WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE DO AS A PROCESS TO TRY TO KEEP THAT. I SEE WHAT WE'RE DOING TODAY, AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, IS TO GIVE THE PLANNERS AND YOU INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT WE THINK MIGHT BE LACKING OR INFORMATION WE'RE NOT EXPECTING. ADOPTING ANYTHING TODAY. WE'RE MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS. ABSOLUTELY. YES. THIS IS A DISCUSSION ITEM. 
          IT IS NOT SO. WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS WE GO THROUGH I CAN'T ORGANIZE THIS SPECIFIC I YOU'VE ORGANIZED IT SOMEWHAT FOR ME. BUT WHEN WE GET TO AN ELEMENT I THINK WHAT YOU DO IS KIND OF SAY, WELL, YOU KNOW, I WISH YOU'D NUMBERED THE PAGES, BUT YOU DIDN'T. I KNOW, ON YOUR THING, BUT. AND THAT'S NOT TERRIBLE. BUT WHEN WE GET TO AN ELEMENT, BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO FIND A RESILIENCY ELEMENT HERE FOR HISTORIC PRESERVATION THAT YOU, THAT YOUR SUGGESTION WOULD BE THAT THEY CONSIDER THE COMMENTS ON YOUR PIECE OF WHAT YOU'VE GIVEN US. OKAY. I'M NOT SUGGESTING THAT ANY OF THAT BE ADOPTED. THAT'S ALL. JUST WELL, SOME OF IT'S I MEAN, A LOT OF IT'S EXTREMELY HELPFUL AND I'M IMPRESSED WITH WHAT YOU PUT TOGETHER. BUT I THINK WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS ALLOW THE CONSULTANTS TO GO FORWARD WHEN WE GET TO SOMETHING WHERE YOU. 
          SO IF I WERE TO START THAT, YOU THINK THERE SHOULD BE A DEFINITION SECTION, RIGHT. THAT SHOULD BE INCLUDED. YOU KNOW, HOWEVER THEY DO IT, EITHER DEFINITION SECTION OR THE DEFINITIONS APPEARING IN THE PLAN WERE APPROPRIATE, WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE. SO THAT'S THE FIRST SECTION OF INFORMATION YOU'VE GIVEN US. SO WHEN WE GET TO A POINT WE'VE JUST HEARD FROM ERICA ON HISTORIC PRESERVATION. BUT WHEN WE GET TO THE END AND YOU THINK THERE SHOULD BE HISTORIC PRESERVATION, YOU'D LIKE THESE CONSIDERED, AND THEN FINALLY, THE RESILIENCE ELEMENT, WHICH I THINK IS MAYBE ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS WE'RE DEALING WITH HERE TODAY, THAT THAT WOULD BE JUST A RECOMMENDATION SO WE CAN GET THROUGH THIS THING IN SOME SORT OF ORDER THAT MAKES SENSE. AND. ANDREW COMMENTS ABOUT TRYING TO FIGURE OUT PUBLIC PARTICIPATION IS A FRUSTRATION THAT WE'VE BEEN GOING ON FOR AGES. AND I KNOW ANDREW HAS BEEN TRYING TO CONVINCE THE CITY TO STATISTICAL INFORMATION IS AVAILABLE THAT THEY'RE NOT TAKING ADVANTAGE OF, AS I UNDERSTAND SOME OF YOUR EARLIER COMMENTS, NOT TODAY. AND I DON'T LOSE, YOU KNOW, KEEP PUSHING. YOU'RE RIGHT ON THAT. 
          BUT I ALSO DO FEEL THAT SOME OF THE FEEDBACK WE'VE GIVEN TO THE CONSULTANTS, THEY'VE DONE A GREAT JOB IN INCORPORATING THAT. SOME OF IT THEY HAVEN'T FOR GOOD REASONS. SO I PERSONALLY, AS A AS AN INDIVIDUAL MEMBER, HAVE GOT GREAT FAITH IN THE WORK THAT THE CONSULTANT'S DONE, BUT THEY CAN ONLY DIGEST SO MUCH. YOU CAN'T JUST THROW A BUCKET OF WATER AND EXPECT IT ALL TO TO SOAK. NO, I AGREE THIS IS ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT. AND I'M VERY WE'RE GOING TO JUST CONTINUE WITH THE ELEMENT BY ELEMENT APPROACH. AND THEN WE CAN MAKE OUR COMMENTS AT THE END OF THEIR PRESENTATION AS TO EACH ELEMENT. AND THEN WE'LL GO ON TO THE NEXT. OKAY. AND I THINK THAT THE, THE ADVICE FROM MR. DITTMAN WAS THE FACT OF HAVING THIS CALL ABOUT TWO OR WHATEVER, WHATEVER TERMINOLOGY, I'D JUST LIKE TO HAVE SOMETHING THAT CAPTURES THE SOURCES THAT WE'RE USING WHEN WE'RE MAKING STATEMENTS OUTSIDE THE DOCUMENT IS TOTALLY FINE AND APPENDIX OR WHATEVER. IT JUST MEANS THAT WHEN WE'RE ALL NOT HERE, THERE IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN PASS ON THAT SHOWS HOW WE CONCLUDED WHAT WE CONCLUDED. OKAY. AND, MR. CHAIR, JUST TO CLARIFY MY REASON FOR FOR PREPARING THESE THREE DOCUMENTS, ONE, THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION. I FEEL VERY STRONGLY ABOUT THAT. AND, AND THE WAY I LOOK AT IT, AND MAYBE I'D JUST LIKE THE CITY COUNCIL AND OUR, OUR CONSULTANTS TO LOOK AT THESE THINGS AND MAYBE THEY'LL THINK, WELL, MAYBE THERE'S SOME GOOD IDEAS OUT OF THE WAY. FOWLER PRESENTED. SO THAT'S HOW WE'RE GOING TO GO. YEAH. AND SO BUT LET ME FINISH PLEASE. BECAUSE I'D ALSO LIKE TO HAVE THE THE CITY COUNCIL PROVIDED WITH THESE DOCUMENTS. IT COULD BE THAT THEY LOOK AT THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION ELEMENT. THEY SAID THEY AIN'T GOING TO HAPPEN. AND SO THEN IT AIN'T GOING TO HAPPEN BECAUSE BECAUSE THEY'RE THE ONES WHO MAKE THOSE 
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DECISIONS. BUT I'D LIKE THE FORMAT AND AND THE STRUCTURE AND SO FORTH TO BE CONSIDERED, BECAUSE I THINK IT'S A VERY CLEAR, VERY REASONABLE AND VERY DEFENSIBLE WAY TO PRESENT IT. 
          AND SO SO THAT'S ALL I WANT THIS TO BE. I WANT THIS TO BE AN EXEMPLAR OF SOMETHING THAT COULD BE. AND FOR THE CITY COUNCIL TO HOPEFULLY SAY, YOU KNOW, THIS HISTORIC PRESERVATION STUFF IS PRETTY GOOD BECAUSE I LOOK AND I THINK IF WE HAD DONE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I THINK WOULD HELP THIS CITY 20 YEARS AGO, I THINK WE'D BE A LOT BETTER OFF IN TERMS OF OF THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION. PRETTY SPECIFIC. I'M A QUICK READER, AND I SEE THAT YOU SAY, YOU KNOW, IF CERTAIN PERCENTAGES ARE NOT MET, YOU GOT TO DO SOMETHING. I HAVE NO IDEA WHEN THERE'S ONLY SIX HISTORIC BUILDINGS IN THE WHOLE CITY THAT YOU CHANGE ONE AND YOU'RE GOING TO KICK IN THE, IN THE PERCENTAGES. SO I DON'T AGREE WITH YOUR PERCENTAGES. I AGREE WITH THE CONCEPT THAT WE NEED TO. FOCUS ON THE TRADITIONAL HISTORY OF THE TOWN. 
          I GUESS WOULD BE MY COMMENT, BUT BUT WE'RE NOT WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE MAKING THAT VOTE HERE TODAY. NO. SO LET'S KEEP GOING. LET'S DO THE JOB WE'RE SUPPOSED TO DO. THE COMMENTS WILL GO TO THE CONSULTANTS AND THEY WILL GO TO THE CITY COUNCIL, AND THEY CAN DO WITH THEM WHAT THEY WISH. I APPRECIATE YOUR PATIENCE. I'M IMPRESSED WITH WHAT YOU DID. I FORGOT TO TELL YOU THAT. AND WE WILL BE BACK ON FUTURE LAND USE. WELL, AND I'M GOING TO ASK US TO PIVOT, PLEASE, BECAUSE IT HAS TO DO WITH OUR AVAILABILITY OF OUR CONSULTANT, WHO WILL BE THE RESILIENCY TOPIC EXPERT. SO IF WE MAY PLEASE SHIFT TO ELEMENT NUMBER FIVE. AND AARON WELL I'M, I'M HAVING AARON TALK THROUGH CONSERVATION AND COASTAL MANAGEMENT FOLLOWED BY RESILIENCY FOLLOWED BY PUBLIC FACILITIES AND WATER RESOURCES. SO SHE WILL BE WHAT PAGE ARE WE GOING TO BE ON. RESILIENCY IS WELL I55 BEGINS THE TOPICS THAT AARON WILL COVER CONSERVATION AND COASTAL MANAGEMENT. ELEMENT FIVE YEAH I GOT IT. OKAY OKAY. WE'RE GOING TO DO FIVE SIX AND SEVEN WITH AARON. AARON ARE YOU READY TO GO I'M READY. AWESOME OKAY SO GOOD LUCK. SO THE APPROACH TO CONSERVATION AND COASTAL WAS REALLY TO STREAMLINE THE ELEMENT STREAMLINE THE ELEMENT DOWN TO REALLY FIT THE STATUTORY REQUIREMENTS. ONE THING WE DID IN OBJECTIVE SIX IS WE RENAMED THAT FROM REAL PROPERTY PROTECTION TO PERILS OF FLOOD. 
          PERILS OF FLOOD WAS THE LEGISLATION THAT WAS ENACTED IN 2015, WHICH REQUIRES CERTAIN COMPONENTS BE INCLUDED IN THE REDEVELOPMENT PORTION OF THE COASTAL ELEMENT OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT WAS DONE DURING THE LAST COMP PLAN UPDATE. BUT IT JUST FOR A MINUTE, STOP FOR A MINUTE. WE CAN'T HEAR YOU. CAN YOU EITHER GET CLOSER TO YOUR MIC. HOW'S THAT? IS THAT BETTER? GO AHEAD. IS THAT ANY BETTER? THAT'S MUCH BETTER. OKAY, GREAT. SO WE START WITH OBJECTIVE SIX. WE RENAMED THAT OBJECTIVE FROM REAL PROPERTY PROTECTION TO PERILS OF FLOOD. AND WE ALSO REMOVED OBJECTIVE EIGHT WHICH WAS CLIMATE ADAPTATION RESILIENCY. AND WE CREATED A WHOLE NEW ELEMENT FOR THAT. SO THOSE ARE JUST SOME HIGH LEVEL THINGS THAT THAT WE DID TO THE ELEMENT. WE ADDED VULNERABILITY TO FLOOD BEFORE NEW PUBLIC FACILITIES ARE BUILT IN THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA. WE INCORPORATED TIDAL FLOODING AS A CONSIDERATION WHEN NEW CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS ARE PROPOSED TO EVACUATION ROUTES. 
          WE MODIFIED THE LANGUAGE ON PROJECTS IN COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREAS AND LIMITING PUBLIC EXPENDITURES IN COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREAS TO THAT WHICH IS IN THE STATUTE. I ALREADY MENTIONED THAT WE RENAMED AND REORGANIZED OBJECTIVE SIX SOMEWHAT TO FOCUS ON THOSE NEW REQUIREMENTS. IN CHAPTER ONE 6331, 78 REGARDING PERILS OF FLOOD. AND WE REFERENCED THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT CAME UP IN YOUR PREVIOUS DISCUSSION. YOU, THE CITY OF NAPLES, HAS CREATED A VULNERABILITY ASSESSMENT IN 2023 AND AN ADAPTATION PLAN IN 2024. SO THOSE WERE NEW SOURCES OF DATA THAT WERE GRANT FUNDED THAT THE CITY UNDERTOOK. AND SO WE PULLED FROM THOSE SOURCES OF DATA AND WE MADE MENTION TO THOSE SOURCES OF DATA. AND AS I MENTIONED, WE REMOVED OBJECTIVE 
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EIGHT ENTIRELY. IT DIDN'T DISAPPEAR, BUT IT WAS FAR MORE EXPANDED AND MAGNIFIED. ALL OF THOSE POLICIES CAN NOW BE FOUND IN MUCH MORE DETAILED FASHION, IN THE RESILIENCY ELEMENT. WE ALSO MADE THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN MARINA AND MARINE FACILITIES, BEST MANAGEMENT PRACTICES, AND BEST MANAGEMENT PRACTICES IN POLICY 1.3, WHICH YOU WOULD HAVE FOR TERRESTRIAL LIKE FOR YOUR UPLAND LANDSCAPING AND DRAINAGE SYSTEMS, AND POINT SOURCE AND WATER QUALITY. WE ALSO DID PULL SOME LANGUAGE HERE AND THERE, WHICH YOU WILL SEE AT THE END OF OBJECTIVE TWO, AND IN POLICY 2.3 RELATED TO PREVIOUS COMMENTS ON THE COASTAL AND CONSERVATION ELEMENT. SO THAT'S SOME NEW LANGUAGE THAT WE THOUGHT WAS GOOD. SO WE CAPTURED THAT AND PULLED THAT INTO THE STRIKE. UNDERLINE THAT. YOU WILL SEE. WE ALSO DID THAT AT THE END OF OBJECTIVE THREE, THAT LANGUAGE MAINTAIN, RESTORE AND ENHANCE THE OVERALL QUALITY OF THE COASTAL ZONE ENVIRONMENT, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, ITS AMENITIES AND ESTHETIC VALUES. THAT WAS FROM A PREVIOUS COMMENT DOCUMENT FROM THE PAB ON THIS ELEMENT AS WELL. 
          I THINK FOR THE MOST PART, THAT REALLY SUMMARIZES HIGH LEVEL WHAT WE DID TO THIS ELEMENT. I THINK YOUR PROCESS IS WE'RE GOING TO TAKE SOME COMMENTS AND DISCUSSION, OR WE CAN MOVE RIGHT INTO RESILIENCY, BECAUSE IF THAT'S REALLY THE KIND OF THE FOCUS, THAT'S WHERE A LOT OF THAT LANGUAGE LIES NOW. ELEMENT ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS CONCERNING CHANGES OR SUGGESTIONS THAT YOU THINK WOULD BE HELPFUL? I HAVE A SUGGESTION. POLICY 1.1 IMPLEMENTATION OF WATER QUALITY MONITORING. I'D LIKE TO REALLY TRY TO MOVE BEYOND GENERAL MONITORING TO ESTABLISH SPECIFIC TIME BOUND, PROBABLY NITROGEN PHOSPHOROUS. I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ELSE. REDUCTION TARGETS FOR NAPLES BAY. SO PUT SOME NUMBERS IN THERE. I THINK IT WILL ALSO BE VERY USEFUL. IF WE HAD A PUBLIC FACING ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH DASHBOARD TO PROVIDE REAL TIME TRANSPARENCY ON THINGS LIKE RED TIDE AND WATER QUALITY METRICS. 
          THANK YOU. OTHER COMMENTS. JUST A VERY SMALL ONE. AARON MENTIONED AN OBJECTIVE THREE THE NEW LANGUAGE HE BEGINS MAINTAIN, RESTORED, ETC. TO ME AND I APOLOGIZE. I THINK MAINTAIN SHOULD BE SOMETHING MORE LIKE PROTECT BECAUSE TO ME MAINTAIN AND RESTORE SLIGHTLY INCONSISTENT WITH ONE ANOTHER. SO PROTECT RESTORE. AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT LANGUAGE THAT REPEATS ITSELF IN VARIOUS OF THE ELEMENTS. SO THAT'S JUST A SMALL AGAIN, PRESCRIPTIVE SORT OF IDEA. OKAY. ANY OTHER COMMENTS AT THIS POINT? OKAY. THEN WE'LL GO TO THE EXCITING ONE. RESILIENCY. THANK YOU AARON OKAY. SO IN FORMULATING THE RESILIENCY ELEMENT I USED A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT SOURCES OF DATA. ONE BEING THE CITY'S RECENTLY COMPLETED VULNERABILITY ASSESSMENT. THE IN 2023, THE ADAPTATION PLAN IN 2024. WE ALSO HAD FEEDBACK IN THE PUBLIC MEETINGS WHERE WE TOOK THE 40. I THINK THERE WERE 43 OR 47 STRATEGIES FROM THE ADAPTATION PLAN. WE PUT THEM ON A BOARD AND WE LET PEOPLE SUPPORT THOSE WITH DOTS, AND WE MADE SURE THAT WHERE THERE WAS A LOT OF PUBLIC SUPPORT FOR CERTAIN STRATEGIES, THAT SOMEHOW THAT ALSO MADE IT IN THIS ELEMENT AS WELL. AND THEN I ALSO JUST PERSONALLY HAVE A HIT LIST OF GOOD STRATEGIES AND POLICIES THAT I HAVE FORMULATED OVER THE YEARS. FOR INSTANCE, THE DELRAY BEACH COMP PLAN WAS REFERENCED EARLIER. I WROTE THE CONSERVATION, SUSTAINABILITY AND RESILIENCY ELEMENT OF THAT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. THE OTHER THING IS JUST BEEN MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE ON WORKING ON RESILIENCY PROJECTS. PHILOSOPHICALLY, WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO ADAPT EVERYTHING, SO SOMETIMES THERE ARE GOING TO BE TOUGH CHOICES THAT HAVE TO BE MADE WITH REGARD TO INFRASTRUCTURE. OR MAYBE WE'RE JUST MAINTAINING IT. 
          WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO NECESSARILY ELEVATE EVERY ROAD, IMPROVE EVERY DRAINAGE STRUCTURE WITH THE LIVING WITH WATER CONCEPT. SO SOME OF THAT YOU WILL SEE IN THERE AS WELL, IN KEEPING WITH THE NEW STRUCTURE, WE HAVE AN INTRODUCTION AND THEN WE HAVE A 
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NEW GOAL. AND THEN WE HAVE FOUR KEY OBJECTIVES. SO IN THE PRESENTATION I JUST KIND OF RUN THROUGH WHAT THOSE OBJECTIVES ARE. NUMBER ONE, STRENGTHEN COMMUNITY AND INFRASTRUCTURE RESOURCES. THIS TALKS ABOUT USE OF DATA. AS MENTIONED, THE CITY HAS CONDUCTED A VULNERABILITY ASSESSMENT IN THAT BA. THERE HAS BEEN AN INVENTORY OF CRITICAL ASSETS. SO MAINTAINING THAT DATA SET, MAKING SURE IT'S ACCURATE CURRENT IN THERE WAS ALSO MODELING PERFORMED IN THAT VULNERABILITY ASSESSMENT CALLED A SENSITIVITY ANALYSIS, WHICH ESSENTIALLY LOOKS AT POTENTIAL FLOOD RISK IN ASSOCIATION WITH THE CRITICAL ASSETS WITHIN THE COMMUNITY. SO MAINTAINING THAT DATA FOR USE IN POLICY AND PLANNING DECISIONS IS IMPORTANT. LEADERSHIP. THE CITY HAS TAKEN A LEADERSHIP ROLE WITH THE CREATION OF THESE DOCUMENTS LOCALLY AND REGIONALLY, PARTICIPATES IN OTHER FORUMS, COMMUNICATES WITH OTHER LOCAL GOVERNMENT JURISDICTIONS AND WITH THE COMMUNITY. SO YOU WILL SEE POLICIES SUPPORTING THAT BROADER OBJECTIVE. OBJECTIVE TWO ADDRESSING INFRASTRUCTURE VULNERABILITIES. YOU KNOW, AGAIN, DATA COLLECTION AND FURTHER ANALYSIS, HARMONIZING RESILIENCY IN STORMWATER INITIATIVES. AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT THOSE COMMUNICATIONS INTERNALLY WITHIN STAFF HAVE ALREADY STARTED THEIR ONGOING BETWEEN NATURAL RESOURCES AND PUBLIC WORKS, PUBLIC FACILITIES, STORMWATER. THERE ARE OTHER PLANNING EFFORTS RELATED RIGHT NOW TO STORMWATER PARTICIPATION IN FEMA'S COMMUNITY RATING SYSTEM PROGRAM AND THE WORK PRODUCTS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT. BUT COORDINATING THESE EFFORTS IS REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT BECAUSE THE CITY IS AGGRESSIVE ON STORMWATER AND HAS A ROBUST STORMWATER PROGRAM. THE ASSET INVENTORY THAT I MENTIONED BEFORE, SITE SPECIFIC ADAPTATION PLANNING FOR AREAS THAT POP UP OR NEIGHBORHOODS THAT POP UP THAT MAY NEED MORE DETAILED EXPLORATION FOR ADAPTATION OPTIONS BEYOND WHAT WAS CONDUCTED IN THE PREVIOUS VULNERABILITY ASSESSMENT, AND INTEGRATING FLOOD RISK DATA INTO CAPITAL PLANNING AND PUBLIC FACILITIES DECISIONS. YOU KNOW, MAKING SURE THAT THE NEXT CAPITAL PROJECT THAT COMES ONLINE, YOU ARE CONSIDERING CURRENT AND FUTURE FLOOD RISK FOR THE USEFUL LIFE OF THAT PROJECT. FOR INSTANCE, IF YOU'VE GOT A STORMWATER PROJECT THAT'S COMING, IT GENERALLY HAS A USEFUL LIFE OF 2530 YEARS OR MORE. YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT PROJECT IS GOING TO BE FUNCTIONAL BASED ON THAT CURRENT AND FUTURE FLOOD RISK. NEXT SLIDE. OBJECTIVE THREE ADDRESSING VULNERABILITIES IN NEIGHBORHOODS. NOW THIS IS A REALLY IMPORTANT DISTINCTION AS TO WHY THAT OBJECTIVE IS FRAMED THAT WAY. YOU'VE HEARD ME POSSIBLY TALK PREVIOUSLY BEFORE ABOUT MAKING THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN PUBLIC FACILITIES AND INFRASTRUCTURE ADAPTATION THAT THE CITY OWNS AND CONTROLS AND VULNERABILITY OF PROPERTIES, PRIVATE PROPERTY, OF WHAT PEOPLE CAN POTENTIALLY DO FOR THEIR OWN PROPERTIES. YOU KNOW, SO REVIEWING THE CODE FOR INCENTIVES, LOOKING AT REVISITING REGULATIONS RELATED TO FILL GRADE AND FREEBOARD, THESE ARE ALL TECHNIQUES THAT PEOPLE WOULD USE. AND EVEN BUSINESSES POTENTIALLY WOULD USE TO ADAPT THEIR PERSONAL PROPERTIES AND STRUCTURES TO THE IMPACTS OF SEA LEVEL RISE AND TIDAL FLOODING AND EXTREME RAINFALL OVER TIME. TALKED ABOUT COORDINATION WITH THE COMMUNITY RATING SYSTEM AND OUTREACH AND EDUCATION TO PROPERTY OWNERS. YOU KNOW, WE ALL WANT TO BE WE ALL WANT TO BE RESILIENT WITH OUR PROPERTIES. BUT WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT SOMETIMES BUILDING MORE RESILIENTLY CAN BE COSTLY. YOU HAD A VERY GOOD WORKSHOP ON FLOOD BARRIERS BACK IN NOVEMBER. I, I WATCHED THAT WORKSHOP, YOU KNOW, SO EDUCATION AND OUTREACH TO PROPERTY OWNERS IS REALLY KEY. THEN OBJECTIVE FOUR IDENTIFY IDENTIFYING LOCATIONS AT RISK. THERE ARE SOME POLICIES RELATED TO SHORELINE ADAPTATION, LAND PROTECTION AND NATURE BASED SOLUTIONS IS SOMETHING THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT. AND THEN THE CO-BENEFITS OF RESILIENCY IN TERMS OF ENHANCING WATER QUALITY. SO THAT'S A LOT, YOU KNOW, TO GO PAGE BY PAGE. I THINK MAYBE, YOU KNOW, I'VE PROVIDED A HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW. 
          AND IF THERE ARE SOME INITIAL COMMENTS, YOU KNOW, WE DO WANT TO TALK ABOUT PUBLIC FACILITIES 
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AND CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS IN THE NEXT ELEMENTS, BECAUSE ONE OF THE KEY THINGS THAT WE ARE SUGGESTING ALSO IS INTEGRATING TIDAL FLOODING INTO THE CITY'S STORMWATER LEVEL OF SERVICE, SO THAT THAT'S A KEY COMPONENT AS WELL THAT WILL COME IN THE NEXT ELEMENT DISCUSSIONS. BUT I'LL END THERE WITH RESILIENCY AND SHUT UP AND LET YOU GUYS PROVIDE ANY COMMENTS OR FEEDBACK OR QUESTIONS. OKAY. ON MY LEFT, YES, I HAVE A KIND OF A PROCEDURAL QUESTION WHICH MAY LEAD TO KIND OF MORE COMMENTS, BUT HOW SPECIFIC DO CERTAIN THINGS IN THE COMP PLAN RELATE TO WHAT THE CITY ACTUALLY DOES? SO LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, IN POLICY ONE, AT THE END THERE'S A MENTIONING OF, YOU KNOW, THE CITY SHALL COLLABORATE WITH OTHER GOVERNMENTAL PARTNERS TO HOST PERIODIC REGIONAL RESILIENCY FORUMS AND PUBLIC WORKSHOPS. AND THIS KIND OF COMES UP MULTIPLE TIMES THROUGHOUT THE COMP PLAN. SO THAT'S JUST BASICALLY SAYING THE CITY SHOULD, YOU KNOW, HOLD MEETINGS FOR THIS TOPIC EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE. HOW DO HOW DOES THAT THEN TURN INTO SOMETHING MEASURABLE THAT THE CITY ACTUALLY DOES? BECAUSE IT COULD JUST BE LISTED IN THERE AND THEN, YOU KNOW, NOBODY DOES ANYTHING ABOUT IT. AND SO I'M JUST CURIOUS, LIKE, HOW DO YOU GET FROM THE COMP PLAN TO ACTIONABLE, ACTIONABLE ITEMS? BECAUSE IF THAT MATTERS, THEN MAYBE WE SHOULD CHANGE THIS TO SPECIFIC LIKE OBJECTIVES LIKE CITY SHALL HOLD ONE ANNUAL MEETING. I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW MUCH IN DETAIL WE NEED TO GET INTO ON THAT. ALL RIGHT. SO SOME SOME THINGS IN YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WILL BE LITERALLY IMPLEMENTED THROUGH YOUR LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AND ORDINANCES. BUT THINGS LIKE THAT WERE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT STEPS THAT WILL BE TAKEN. YEAH. YOU CAN LIST THOSE OUT AND SAY BY YEAR SUCH AND SUCH, THIS WILL HAPPEN OR BE MORE SPECIFIC WITH THAT. BUT ESSENTIALLY THOSE ARE THAT WOULD REQUIRE. SO THOSE TYPES OF POLICIES ARE THE LET ME PUT IT THIS WAY. THE STATE FORCES THE CITY TO REVIEW ITS OWN COMPREHENSIVE PLAN EVERY SEVEN YEARS. BUT IN REALITY, THE STATE OUGHT TO BE WORKING ON ITS COMPREHENSIVE PLAN EVERY DAY, CONSTANTLY, AND AND CHECKING OFF. WHICH POLICIES ARE WE PURSUING? AND THAT'S THE KIND OF INTERACTION THAT WOULD TAKE PLACE HERE AT THIS BOARD. BUT YOU CAN BE MORE SPECIFIC ON THINGS LIKE THAT. WELL, SO I MEAN, THIS IS JUST THE THOUGHT, LIKE, WOULD IT BE BENEFICIAL TO HAVE FOR LIKE ITEMS LIKE THAT WHERE ESSENTIALLY YOU HAVE I KNOW IN SOME ARE SOME OTHER ONES WE HAVE ACTUAL ACTION ITEMS TO HAVE, LIKE A SUGGESTED ACTION ITEM OF, YOU KNOW, LIKE IN THIS CASE, OKAY, HAVE A, YOU KNOW, ANNUAL MEETING OR BI ANNUAL MEETING OR WHATEVER IT IS JUST TO GIVE SOME TYPE OF GUIDANCE. SO WE DON'T FORGET, I COULD SEE SOMETHING BEING LISTED IN THE COMP PLAN THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND OF A LITTLE BIT VAGUE LIKE THIS AND THEN JUST GETS GLOSSED OVER. BUT IF THERE'S AN ACTUAL, YOU KNOW, LITTLE CHECKBOX NEXT TO OKAY, YOU KNOW, DID WE DO THAT? OH, YOU KNOW, IT'S BEEN TWO YEARS AND WE HAVEN'T DONE THAT YET. 
          SOMETHING WE SHOULD LOOK AT OUR. SO I THINK YOU'RE ON TO SOMETHING HERE. SHOULD THE LIST CONTAIN THAT WE SHOULD SHOULD WE LIST THREE. WE SHOULD MEET WITH THE COUNTY. WE SHOULD MEET WITH THE WATER DISTRICT. AND WE SHOULD MEET WITH THE STATE ONCE A YEAR OR WHAT? YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE WE EXACTLY? I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S NECESSARILY OUR JOB TO SAY, LIKE THE ACTUAL SCHEDULE OR WHATNOT, BUT I DO THINK KIND OF GIVING IT TO THE CONSULTANTS AS A SUGGESTION OF KIND OF COMING UP WITH A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A ROADMAP FOR THAT. I CAN DO THAT. I CAN WORK ON SOME MORE SPECIFICITY WITH THAT PARTICULAR POLICY. SPRINKLED THROUGHOUT YOUR. WORK SESSION WITH YOUR CITY STAFF AND LEADERSHIP, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALSO JUST A THIRD PARTY, AND THEY'RE THE DECIDING FACTOR ON HOW THEY'RE GOING TO EXECUTE AND CAPACITY TO EXECUTE AND ALL THAT. SO GIVE US A CHANCE TO REFINE EVERY TIME WE SEE ONE OF THOSE VAGUE KIND OF MESSAGES. 
          YEAH, THAT'S EXACTLY MY SUGGESTION. YEAH. OKAY. CAN I PICK UP ON THAT? MAYBE A SUGGESTION OR A DIRECTION. BECAUSE AGAIN, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A SPECIFIC POINT. BUT IF YOU HAD AND I'M JUST GOING TO THROW A TERM OUT THAT'S JUST COMING TO ME. IF YOU HAD, LET'S SAY A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMBASSADOR, THAT COULD BE OPEN TO WHATEVER, WHO'S ACTUALLY A MEMBER OF THE CITY, NOT NECESSARILY A COUNCIL MEMBER, BUT AN EMPLOYEE OR WHATEVER. 
          THEY COULD THEN LIVE THROUGH THE DOCUMENT AND THEY SHOULD THEN HAVE THE HAVE THE RIGHT TO 
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SAY, OKAY, 1.1 SECTION CAN AND I JUST WANT TO CHECK WHERE THE EVIDENCE IS FOR THIS. AND IF THEY'RE INCORPORATED WITHIN THE CITY, THERE COULD BE A VALUED MEMBER OF THAT CITY. AND THEY'LL ALSO KNOW THE ROUTES TO GO AND FIND THAT INFORMATION. AND THAT MEANS THEN THE CITY COULD OPEN ITS BOOKS AND JUST SAY, WELL, HANG ON, WE HAVE SOMEBODY WHO, LET'S SAY, CHECKS OVER OUR SHOULDER THAT WHAT WE INTEND TO DO. WE'VE GONE ONE STEP FURTHER, AND WE'VE ACTUALLY GOT SOMEBODY WHO JUST DOUBLE CHECKS THAT WE ARE DOING WHAT WE INTENDED TO DO. AND IF THAT'S A NAMED BODY, THAT WOULD INCORPORATE THINGS LIKE THE POINT THAT MR. BARONE MENTIONED AND OTHER PEOPLE MENTIONED, RATHER THAN HAVING TO REMEMBER ALL THE SPECIFICS, YOU'LL HAVE SOMEBODY WHO WOULD, IN ESSENCE, LIVE AND BREATHE THE DOCUMENT ON BEHALF OF THE COUNCIL TO MAKE SURE THAT WE COULD ADDRESS THE QUESTION, NO MATTER WHERE THE AREA WAS. OKAY. THANK YOU. 
          OTHER RESILIENCY? YES, SIR. IN THE INTRODUCTION SECTION, I'D ENCOURAGE YOU TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE INTRODUCTION THAT I WROTE IN THIS EXEMPLAR. I PREPARED BECAUSE I THINK WHAT WE NEED TO DO IN THE INTRODUCTION SECTIONS, ESPECIALLY IN THIS ONE, IS TO MAKE A CASE FOR STRONG RESILIENCE EFFORTS. AND SO I THINK WE JUST NEED TO TO I LIKE YOURS, BUT I THINK THAT IT NEEDS TO HAVE A LITTLE MORE. THIS IS WHY WE NEED IT. HERE'S THE CONTEXT IN WHICH WE ARE GOING TO DEVELOP IT AND THAT SORT OF THING. SO YOU'LL YOU'LL SEE AND YOU MAY OR MAY NOT LIKE IT, BUT BUT TAKE WHAT YOU WILL FROM IT, PLEASE. IN THE GOAL SECTION WE TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE PROTECTION FROM IMPACTS FROM FLOOD HAZARDS. SO I THINK WE NEED TO EXPAND THAT. AND SO SO THE WAY I SUGGESTED IN THE LITTLE EXEMPLAR I CREATED, I SAID, YOU KNOW, ENVIRONMENTAL HAZARDS SUCH AS HURRICANES, STORM SURGE, SEA LEVEL RISE, EXTREME HIGH TIDES, EXTREME RAINFALL EVENTS, EXTREME HEAT. AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE EXTREME HEAT IN THERE AND EXPAND WHAT WE'RE DOING IN THE RESILIENCY SECTION TO INCLUDE SHADE TREES. AND YOU'LL SEE THAT IN IN THE HISTORICAL PRESERVATION ELEMENT THAT I CREATED, THAT I HID BECAUSE IT'S INCREDIBLE WHAT WE KNOW THIS BETTER THAN I DO. INCREDIBLE WHAT SHADE TREES AND STRATEGIC USES CAN CAN DO TO TO EXTREME HEAT IN A CITY. I WAS SURPRISED BY THE STATISTICS. I READ ABOUT HOW MUCH YOU CAN AFFECT. SO ANYWAY, THOSE ARE THE COUPLE OF SUGGESTIONS I HAD THAT I SPIT OUT FAST. BUT YOU'LL SEE IN THE GOAL SECTION THAT I CREATED MY EXEMPLAR, PLUS THE INTRODUCTION THAT WILL COVER THE POINTS THAT THAT I'M TRYING TO MAKE HERE. SO THANK YOU. OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE HERE? ANYTHING ELSE HERE? NO, I GUESS I HAVE JUST AN ONGOING CONCERN. 
          IT'S VERY EASY FOR US TO HAVE ACTION ITEMS AND GOLDEN INCENTIVES UNTIL YOU ASK YOUR POPULATION TO PAY FOR IT. AND THAT IS AN OVERRIDING CHALLENGE FOR ALL OF US. AND I'M NOT SURE AT SOME PLACE IN THE REPORT, WE SHOULD HAVE SOME PROGRAMS TO HELP EDUCATE OUR OUR COMMUNITY TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY NEED TO DO. BECAUSE THE CITY OF NAPLES IS NEVER GOING TO BE ABLE TO PROCLAIM THAT EVERYBODY'S GOT TO RAISE THEIR HOUSE BY NINE FEET, AND WE'RE GOING TO RAISE ALL THE ROADS WITH IT, AND THERE'S NO MORE LAND LEFT IN FLORIDA, BECAUSE WE'VE DUG IT ALL OUT AND PUT IT IN NAPLES. SO THERE ARE GOING TO BE SOME FINANCIAL CHALLENGES. AND I GUESS MY OTHER WORRY IS, AND I DON'T KNOW HOW WE DEAL WITH IT, BUT IF I PROTECT MY HOUSE, AM I HURTING YOUR HOUSE? SO FOR WHATEVER THOSE ARE WORTH, THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS ON THE RESILIENCY. SO NUMBER ONE, EDUCATE OUR POPULATION ABOUT THE FINANCIAL IMPLICATIONS OF THIS BECAUSE IT'S REAL. AND NUMBER TWO, SORT OF THE FAIRNESS ISSUES THAT I TALKED ABOUT IN IN A LOT OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLANS I'VE LOOKED AT IN VARIOUS ELEMENTS, INCLUDING RESILIENCY, THERE IS A POLICY ABOUT EDUCATING THE THE PUBLIC ON THE NEED FOR AND THE COSTS OF. AND SO THAT'S A REALLY GREAT COMMENT. I THINK IT'S NOT IT'S NOT IN THE ONE THAT I PREPARED, BUT IT'S ONE THAT THAT I'VE SEEN IN A NUMBER OF THEM, AND I THINK I ENDORSE 
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THAT. THANK YOU. OTHER COMMENTS BEFORE WE GO ON. OKAY. THANK YOU AARON. NEXT. JUST NOW TO PUBLIC FACILITY AND WATER RESOURCES ELEMENT. SO IN THIS FROM A RESILIENCY STANDPOINT. 
          AND THEN LAURA I CAN TURN IT OVER TO YOU TO KIND OF SUPPLEMENT SOME OF THIS. BUT I JUST WANTED TO GET OUT. YOU KNOW WHAT WE DID FROM A RESILIENCY STANDPOINT. WE ADDED CONCEPTS OF MAINTENANCE, POSSIBLY NOT ADAPTING AND ADAPTATION OF PUBLIC FACILITIES WHERE WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO THAT. AND I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE OF THAT. AN OLDER, ESTABLISHED NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE YOU MAY NOT HAVE THE RIGHT OF WAY TO ELEVATE A ROAD, A HIGHER ROAD IS A WIDER ROAD. AND THEN YOU WILL NEED TO HAVE STORMWATER ASSOCIATED WITH THAT. 
          AND IF YOU DO NOT HAVE THE RIGHT OF WAY TO ELEVATE THAT ROAD, YOU MAY BE IN A POSITION OF POTENTIALLY JUST BEING ABLE TO MAINTAIN THAT ROAD, NOT NECESSARILY ADOPT IT. SO WE INTRODUCED THAT CONCEPT INTO BOTH PUBLIC FACILITIES AND THE THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS ELEMENT AS WELL. WE ALSO UPDATED THE STORMWATER LEVEL OF SERVICE TO BE THE MOST STRINGENT OF A LOCAL STANDARD, OR THAT SET BY THE SOUTH FLORIDA WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT, WHICHEVER IS MORE STRINGENT IN TERMS OF THE DESIGN EVENT THAT THE STORMWATER SYSTEM IS TO HANDLE. AND THEN WE ALSO INTRODUCED WHAT WE'RE CALLING A TAIL WATER CONDITION AND WHAT THAT MEANS. AND WE'VE ADDED LANGUAGE TO THE INTRODUCTION, EXPANDING SOME OF THESE CONCEPTS AS WELL. BUT IF YOU WANT TO TURN OVER TO PAGES FOUR AND FIVE, I'LL WALK YOU THROUGH THAT POLICY BECAUSE I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT. IT STARTS AT POLICY 1.1, THE ESTABLISHED LEVEL OF SERVICE. THIS IS THE NEW LANGUAGE AT THE END OF THE POLICY, THE ESTABLISHED STORMWATER LEVEL STANDARDS SHALL BE THE MORE STRINGENT OF THIS LEVEL OF SERVICE OR THE STORMWATER STANDARD SET BY THE WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT. AND THE CITY'S LEVEL OF SERVICE IS TO CONTAIN THE PRIMARY DRAINAGE SYSTEM FOR A FIVE YEAR, ONE HOUR STORM EVENT FOR ROADS, YARD DRAINAGE, PUMP STATIONS AND TRUNK LINES. AND I WILL TELL YOU, THAT'S A PRETTY THAT'S A PRETTY HIGH BAR. THAT'S SAYING THAT YOUR DRAINAGE SYSTEM IS GOING TO FUNCTION AT A PRETTY HIGH LEVEL. MOST LOCAL GOVERNMENTS DO DO NOT HAVE THAT LEVEL OF SERVICE. 
          SO I THINK THAT'S GREAT. IF YOU GO FURTHER DOWN, THERE HAS BEEN SOME LANGUAGE. NOW, I DID NOT MAKE THESE STRIKES IN TERMS OF THE TABLE THERE. BUT IF YOU GO OVER TO PAGE FIVE, THERE'S AN A, B AND A C UNDER POLICY 1.11 AND AN A, YOU CAN SEE THAT WE ARE REFERENCING THE TAIL WATER CONDITION IN POLICY 1.1. AND THEN IF YOU GO TO SEE THIS IS THE REALLY IMPORTANT LANGUAGE WHERE STORMWATER SYSTEMS ARE GOING TO BE FUNCTIONAL TO ACCOUNT FOR TITLE FLOODING, A TAIL WATER CONDITION FOR THE DURATION OF THAT STORMWATER PROJECT, AND TO MEET THAT SAME LEVEL OF SERVICE. SO AN EXAMPLE OF THAT IS YOU HAVE A STORM DRAIN SYSTEM THAT IS, YOU KNOW, A PIPE THAT'S LEADING INTO A WATER BODY. IT'S A TIDALLY INFLUENCED WATER BODY. AS MORE TIDE INCREASES, THAT TIDE IS GOING TO PUSH UP THROUGH THAT CONVEYANCE STRUCTURE. AND THAT'S WHERE YOU GET THE SUNNY DAY FLOODING OR THE SALTWATER FLOODING ON STREETS DURING KING TIDE CONDITIONS. AND SO WHAT WE ARE SAYING WITH THIS TAIL WATER CONDITION IS THAT YOU WILL DESIGN YOUR DRAINAGE SYSTEMS TO ACCOUNT FOR THAT WHEN THEY ARE IMPACTED BY A TAIL WATER CONDITION. SO THIS ISN'T GOING TO BE EVERY DRAINAGE COMPONENT IN THE CITY OF NAPLES, BECAUSE NOT EVERYTHING IS GOING TO DRAIN INTO A TIDALLY INFLUENCED BODY. BUT THOSE THAT DO SHOULD ACCOUNT FOR THAT TIDAL FLOODING CONDITION. SO THOSE WERE THE MAIN THINGS FROM A RESILIENCY STANDPOINT THAT WE ADDED INTO THE ELEMENT. AND THEN I CAN DEFER TO LAURA IF YOU WANT TO COVER THE REST THERE. QUESTION. YES. JUST ON THAT VERY POINT AND THE TAIL WATER WOULD IS IT REASONABLE TO ASSUME OR NOT THAT CURRENT STATE GUIDANCE OR GUIDANCE WOULD THOSE, IF WE 
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ADOPTED THEM, WOULD THEY BE ANYWHERE NEAR WHAT WE'D LIKE TO ADOPT IN HERE? IN OTHER WORDS, HOW DO WE TECHNICALLY. OH GOD NO, THERE IS NO TAIL WATER CONDITION WITHIN THE STATE STATUTES WITHIN THE THE PERMITTING CRITERIA OF THE SOUTH FLORIDA WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT OF FDOT OF THE FEDERAL HIGHWAY ADMINISTRATION, YOU NAME IT, I'VE RESEARCHED IT, I'VE LOOKED FOR IT. AND SO WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH THIS, THERE'S ONE OTHER LOCAL COMMUNITY THAT I KNOW OF. THEY'RE PROBABLY MAYBE SOME MORE THAT HAVE ADOPTED A TAIL WATER CONDITION. 
          NOW, WE DON'T SPECIFY IN THIS LEVEL OF SERVICE WHAT THAT TAIL WATER CONDITION IS. THERE'S SOME MORE WORK THAT NEEDS TO GO INTO THAT. AND WE WILL SPECIFY THAT DESIGN CRITERIA IN THE CODE OR A STORMWATER MANUAL OR A FORTHCOMING STORMWATER REGULATORY PROCESS THAT THE CITY IS ABOUT TO EMBARK ON. BUT THE POINT OF THE BROADER POLICY IS TO ACCOUNT FOR IT. SORRY. SO THAT THAT WILL TAKE INTO INTO ACCOUNT THE THE VALUABLE POINT THAT THE CHAIR RAISED, ANYTHING THAT RELATES TO ADJUSTMENT TO INFRASTRUCTURE WOULD HAVE A MAJOR COST ELEMENT, WHICH THEN NEEDS TO GO TO THE BUDGETING PROCESS. SO WHILST I THINK EVERYBODY WELL, I WOULD HOPE PEOPLE WOULD APPLAUD TO GO DOWN THIS ROUTE, WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT THE CONSEQUENCES OF DOING THAT ARE. AND SO CERTAINLY THE CITY DOES, AND THEY NEED TO HAVE A HEADS UP SO THEY CAN ACTUALLY DO THAT IN CALCULATION, ESPECIALLY AS IT'S CURRENTLY UNDERGOING WORK TO DEVELOP STORMWATER. THAT COULD END UP BEING OUTDATED IF WE INCORPORATED SOMETHING LIKE THIS. SO IN OTHER WORDS, I THINK WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE, YOU KNOW, THAT WE ARE SQUARING THE CIRCLE, IF YOU LIKE, THAT WE ARE AHEAD AND UNDERSTANDING OF THE CONSEQUENCES OF SOMETHING THAT WE MAY FAVOR. WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND. COULD WE ACCEPT IT? THAT'S THAT'S 100% RIGHT. I DON'T KNOW WHAT SAYING IT IS, BUT, YOU KNOW, YOU GOT TO TAKE THE FIRST STEP. AND THIS IS THE FIRST STEP TO FACILITATE THAT LARGER POLICY CONVERSATION THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN. OTHER OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS AT THIS POINT. OKAY. OKAY. I'LL JUST ADD ON PUBLIC FACILITIES AND WATER RESOURCES IN ADDITION TO THE ROBUST AMOUNT OF WORK DONE THAT AARON JUST DESCRIBED. THIS ELEMENT DOES TOUCH ON SOLID WASTE SURFACE WATER, WATER AND SEWER FROM A WATER RESOURCES STANDPOINT. BUT WE HAVE NOT MADE SIGNIFICANT, YOU KNOW, GLOBAL CHANGES TO THOSE EXISTING LEVELS OF SERVICE. WE CAN MOVE ON. AND I THINK I'LL STAY IN NUMBER ORDER HERE. THE NEXT ELEMENT AND IF IF YOU HAVE TO END UP LEAVING US AARON, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. APPRECIATE YOU. OKAY. I'LL JUMP BACK ON IN THE CAR WHEN I GET THERE. OKAY. 
          TRANSPORTATION IS THE NEXT ELEMENT. IT'S ELEMENT EIGHT. LET ME GET TO THAT. OKAY. WE HAVE WORKED WITH YOUR TRANSPORTATION STAFF AT THE CITY TO DO SOME REFINEMENT TO LEVELS OF SERVICE HERE IN YOUR TRANSPORTATION ELEMENT AS WELL. WE'VE HEARD VERY STRONGLY FROM OUR PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT EXERCISES THAT TRAFFIC AND TRAFFIC STRESS IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT MOST AFFECTS CITY RESIDENTS. THE CHANGE WE'RE MAKING IS TO RECOGNIZE PEAK THE. 
          LET ME START BY SAYING THE WAY THE LEVEL OF SERVICE STANDARDS ARE WRITTEN ARE VERY TRADITIONAL. THEY'VE COME THEY'VE BEEN CARRIED FORWARD FOR MANY, MANY, MANY, MANY YEARS. AND WE ARE INFUSING IN A LITTLE BIT MORE MODERN STANDARDS HERE. SO WE'RE GOING TO REFER TO PEAK SEASON VOLUMES, NOT PEAK HOUR. SO PEAK HOUR IN A DAY CAN BE BLENDED OVER AN ENTIRE YEAR. PEAK SEASON IS WHAT CITY OF NAPLES EXPERIENCES. SO PEAK SEASON VOLUMES FOR ALL ROADWAYS. AND INSTEAD OF A CALCULATION OF THE HUNDREDTH HOURLY VOLUME DESIGN, WHICH IS A VERY, YOU KNOW, ENGINEERED TYPE OF LANGUAGE, WE ARE GOING TO USE WHAT THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION HAS ELEVATED TO, WHICH IS CONTEXT SENSITIVE CORRIDOR LEVEL OF SERVICE STANDARDS. SO WE'RE WE'RE ADAPTING TO MODERN TIMES WITH WHAT THE STATE RECOGNIZES. WHEN YOU'RE DEALING WITH URBAN VERSUS SUBURBAN VERSUS RURAL CONTEXTS, YOU HAVE 
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DIFFERENT LEVEL OF SERVICE STANDARDS. AND WE'RE MARRYING UP WITH THAT. OTHERWISE, THE TRANSPORTATION ELEMENT HAS GONE THROUGH A PRETTY HEFTY REORGANIZATION. THERE'S NOT A HUGE AMOUNT OF CONTENT CHANGE, BUT YOU SEE A LOT OF MOVING AND REORGANIZING JUST TO MAKE THE ELEMENT A LITTLE MORE READABLE. AND WE'RE TRYING IN HERE, AND I THINK THERE'S STILL A WAYS TO GO TO CLARIFY IN THIS ELEMENT WHAT OUR CITY RESPONSIBILITIES FOR CITY FACILITIES AND WHAT WOULD BE A DEVELOPER RESPONSIBILITY WHEN A DEVELOPER IS INTRODUCING NEW TRAFFIC OR INTRODUCING SOMETHING NEW, AND HOW THEY NEED TO CALIBRATE AND CALCULATE THEIR TRAFFIC THAT UPDATE, THERE'S AN UPDATE TO TRAFFIC ANALYSIS REQUIREMENTS THAT HAS ALSO BEEN COORDINATED WITH YOUR TRANSPORTATION STAFF, BECAUSE WHAT WAS AN OLD ACREAGE THRESHOLD FOR HOW MUCH? WHAT TRIGGERED A TRAFFIC? A TRAFFIC STUDY WAS A PROPERTY BEING ONE ACRE IN SIZE. AND AS YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL DEVELOPMENTS HAPPENING ON LESS THAN AN ACRE. SO WE'VE MODIFIED AND UPDATED THAT THRESHOLD INFORMATION AS WELL. I SEE THERE'S AN EAGER COMMENT TO BE MADE. YEAH I DO. YOU MENTIONED MOVING FROM TRADITIONAL TO MODERN. YOU KNOW, AND CERTAINLY TRAFFIC PARKING ARE TERRIBLE ISSUES HERE. AND AS YOU'VE NOTICED, YOU KNOW, WE'RE UNDER SIEGE. YOU JUST LOOK AT THE DEVELOPMENT OUTSIDE OF THE THE CITY LIMITS. IT'S IT'S AMAZING. 
          AND ALL THOSE FOLKS ARE GOING TO WANT TO GET TO THE BEACH. SO SHOULD WE BE ADDING SOMETHING IN HERE TO LOOK AT SOMETHING LIKE PARK AND RIDE OR ELECTRIC SHUTTLES OR WHATEVER, TO TAKE PEOPLE FROM THE HINTERLANDS OF COLLIER COUNTY TO THE BEACH, RATHER THAN WE CAN'T BUILD ANY MORE PARKING. IT'S GOING TO BE VERY CHALLENGING. THE ROADS ARE UP TO CAPACITY. A LOT OF ROADS ARE UP TO CAPACITY DURING PEAK TIMES. RIGHT? I'LL ANSWER WITH TWO POINTS. AND, YOU KNOW, TAKE TAKE ANY INPUT YOU HAVE. ONE IS THE COORDINATION PIECE. SO POLICY SIX ONE TALKED ABOUT COORDINATING WITH COLLIER COUNTY. AND WE HAVE STRENGTHENED THAT LANGUAGE TO SAY. THERE SHOULD BE STRENGTHENING OF COORDINATION TO ENSURE THE CITY HAS OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW AND COMMENT ON PROPOSED PROJECTS THAT THE CITY DETERMINES MAY SIGNIFICANTLY IMPACT THE CITY. SO NO LONGER KIND OF LIKE WE'LL LOOK AT THINGS ON OUR EDGE, BUT WE HEARD FROM STAFF THAT THEY WANT TO LOOK AT COUNTY ACTIVITY IN ANY WAY THAT WOULD IMPACT THE CITY. AND AND THAT'S ADMIRABLE, EXCEPT IT HAS NO TEETH. AND SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING THAT WE ACTUALLY GRASP THE NETTLE OURSELVES IN THERE, THAT WE LOOK AT ALTERNATIVE TRANSPORTATION. SO THE SECOND PART OF YOUR QUESTION OR SECOND ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION IS THE LANGUAGE UNDER PUBLIC TRANSIT. SO OBJECTIVE EIGHT HAS A SERIES OF PUBLIC TRANSIT RELATED POLICIES. WE HAVE OBJECTIVE NUMBER EIGHT ON PAGE 16 OF THE TRANSPORTATION ELEMENT. WE HAVE NOT DONE MUCH TO BEEF THOSE UP. SO THE IDEA OF INTRODUCING SOMETHING MORE TANGIBLE RELATED TO CIRCULATION AND ALTERNATIVES, WE COULD TALK TO THE STAFF ABOUT. I WOULD LIKE THAT. I DON'T KNOW HOW MY COLLEAGUES WOULD ESSENTIALLY WANT TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION FOR AN ACTION ITEM. ESSENTIALLY. YEAH. AND IT'S A TOUGH THING TO DEAL WITH BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO BE COUNTY DEPENDENT. NOT ONLY DO WE HAVE NO MORE PARKING ON OUR BEACHES, BUT AS FAR AS I CAN SEE, WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF PARKING AT THE PERIPHERY OF THE CITY EITHER WITHOUT TAKING OUT. I MEAN, AN OBVIOUS ANSWER MIGHT BE WE PUT SOMETHING IN BAKER PARK. WE DON'T WANT TO TAKE OUT PARKLAND TO PUT PAVEMENT IN, BUT THE AIRPORT COULD BE A GREAT POSSIBILITY. WELL, NOT ON THE RUNWAYS, BUT YOU COULD CERTAINLY PARK ON SOME OF, YOU KNOW, THERE'S THERE'S SPACE IN THERE FOR ADDITIONAL PARKING OF SOME SORT, EVEN A PARKING GARAGE. BUT I THINK THEY'RE PRETTY TIGHT ON SPACE. ARE THEY. WELL, YOU'RE THE EXPERT, NOT ME, BUT BUT THE POINT I'M TRYING TO MAKE IS THAT THAT YOU'VE CONFIRMED THIS. IF THERE ARE GOING TO BE LOCATIONS, IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO. THE COUNTY'S GOING TO HAVE TO FIND LAND FROM WHICH PEOPLE CAN COME. BUT I THINK IF WE LOOK AT WHAT WE HAVE HERE IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, IF WE HAD A SECTION THAT LOOKED FOR ALTERNATIVE TO VEHICLE USE, YOU KNOW, TO CAR USE THAT COULD THEN INCORPORATE THE INCREASES WHICH WHICH IS THE INFORMATION HERE, IT CAN 
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INCREASE THE EMPHASIS ON PEDESTRIAN CYCLE WAYS. MULTI TRANSPORT, ALL THOSE OTHER LITTLE FEATURES IN ITS OWN SECTION. IN OTHER WORDS, WHILST I DON'T THINK ANYBODY IS GOING TO PUT FORWARD AN IDEA TO INCREASE VEHICLE MOVEMENT WITHIN THE CITY, BUT I THINK WITHIN A SUBSECTION, IF YOU, IF YOU HAD THAT BUILT INTO THE PLAN TO HOW TO REDUCE THE NUMBER OF VEHICLE MOVEMENTS WITHIN THE CITY, THAT WOULD THEN ALLOW YOU TO BRANCH OFF INTO OTHER AREAS, YOU ALREADY HAVE PEDESTRIAN, BIKE, SHUTTLE, BUS. IT ALLOWS THAT. THEN YOU CAN ACTUALLY BUILD IN WITHIN A SUBSECTION IDEAS THAT COULD STILL NOT. YOU KNOW, MONORAIL MIGHT BE AN EXTREME ONE WAY, I DON'T KNOW, BUT IT MEANS YOU HAVE AN AREA WHERE THIS COULD CONTAIN EVERYTHING. AGREED. YEAH. AND THAT COULD BE AN ORGANIZATIONAL ACTION ON OUR PART BECAUSE WE DO HAVE WE HAVE PEDESTRIAN BICYCLE CONNECTIVITY. IT WAS ALSO SOMETHING ECHOED IN PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT THAT INTERCONNECTIONS LINKAGES ARE IMPORTANT. SO WE'LL WE'LL TAKE THAT ADVICE. APPRECIATE IT. JUST ON THIS SECTION. ANOTHER THOUGHT THAT I HAD AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, I CAN'T REMEMBER IF WE SAW ANYTHING IN THERE ABOUT THE INCREASE OF, YOU KNOW, ELECTRIC BICYCLES AND ALL THAT. I KNOW WE HAVE CITY ORDINANCES RELATED TO THAT, BUT, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT SOME SAFETY THINGS IN HERE REGARDING BICYCLES. I DO THINK THAT IT IS BECOME SUCH A AN ISSUE THAT IT WOULD BE WORTH MENTIONING IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. I'M NOT THAT THERE'S ANYTHING SPECIFIC THAT WE COULD NECESSARILY PUT IN, BUT IT'S JUST A THOUGHT, A POLICY STATEMENT ABOUT SAFETY. IS THAT WHERE YOU'RE HEADED OR ACCOMMODATION OR DISCOURAGEMENT? YES. SAFETY AND REFERENCING MAYBE WHAT THE CITY'S ACTUAL ORDINANCES ARE. SO. OKAY. THANK YOU. YEP. OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE ON TRANSPORTATION? JUST A SHORT ONE. OKAY. YOU'LL BE HAPPY TO KNOW IN IN THE GOAL SECTION AND THROUGHOUT, I THINK IT WOULD BE VERY USEFUL FOR US TO MAKE A STATEMENT ABOUT ENHANCING THE CONVENIENCE, QUALITY OF LIFE, ETC. TO THE RESIDENTS. AND SO I THINK ALL THROUGH THE PLAN, WE NEED TO HIGHLIGHT THE FACT THAT THE DEVELOPMENT OF NAPLES IS FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE OF THE RESIDENTS. SO, I MEAN, I DON'T HAVE ANY PARTICULAR LANGUAGE FOR YOU, BUT, YOU KNOW, IT SAYS THAT THE LAST TWO LINES OF THE GOAL SUSTAINABILITY, ENHANCE COMMUNITY WELL-BEING. I'D KIND OF LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING LIKE ENHANCED THE QUALITY OF LIFE, QUIET ENJOYMENT, WHATEVER IT IS OF THE OF THE RESIDENTS. SO IT'S CLEAR THAT WHAT WE'RE DOING IS TO MAKE THE RESIDENTS LIVES BETTER. AND THEN THERE ARE PIECES HERE AND THERE IN ALL OF THE ELEMENTS WHERE WE CAN JUST REAFFIRM THAT. THANK YOU. YEAH. AND THERE IS A COMMUNITY CHARACTER OBJECTIVE KIND OF BURIED IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS ELEMENT. AND I PARTICULARLY THINK IT COULD BE BROUGHT UP FORWARD SO THAT THE TOP OBJECTIVE SPEAKS TO CHARACTER. AND, YOU KNOW, WHEN IT RELATES TO TRANSPORTATION. AND THEN WE MOVE ON FROM THERE. 
          AND I THINK MR. FOWLER'S POINT, IF YOU INCORPORATED THE NAME OR THE TITLE OF PEDESTRIAN, THAT WOULD ALSO AUTOMATICALLY HAVE THAT EFFECT, BECAUSE YOU'D BE REDUCING, BECAUSE TRANSPORT, WE ALWAYS SEEM TO TEND TO THINK OF MOTOR VEHICLES. TRANSPORT COULD BE COULD BE, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE OTHER ALTERNATIVES. BUT WE THINK OF PEDESTRIAN WHICH ISN'T A TRANSPORT ISN'T CLASSED AS A MODE OF TRANSPORT. IT THEN DOES ALSO PROTECT THE RESIDENTS IN THE GOAL IN THE GOAL SECTION. 
          SOUNDS GOOD. THANK YOU. SO I JUST GOT ONE ONE FURTHER COMMENT, WHICH I DON'T KNOW, THIS GOES IN HERE OR NOT, BUT SHOULD WE BE LOOKING AT MAYBE SOME STREETS WHICH ARE REALLY JUST A TOTAL NIGHTMARE? I'M THINKING OF FIFTH AVENUE, OF COURSE, TO ACTUALLY SAY, WELL, WHY DON'T WE JUST PEDESTRIAN CONSIDER PEDESTRIANIZING THIS AND DO AWAY WITH TRAFFIC ALTOGETHER? MAYBE NOT THE RIGHT PLACE, I DON'T KNOW, BUT I WOULDN'T LIKE TO LET IT GO. 
          YEAH, I THINK, I THINK THAT'S BEEN A PHILOSOPHICAL TOPIC OVER THE YEARS THAT FROM A, FROM A TECHNICAL STANDPOINT, THE FIFTH AVENUE IS IDENTIFIED AS A CONSTRAINED FACILITY, CONSTRAINED, CONSTRAINED. AND I THINK THAT'S AS FAR AS, YOU KNOW, THIS THIS IS OUR 20 2045. 
          BLESS YOU 2045 DOCUMENT. SO IF WE'RE LOOKING TO DO SOMETHING IN THE NEXT 20 YEARS, MAYBE THIS IS WHERE IT SHOULD GO. MR. CHRIS, THAT'S JUST ON THAT POINT. THAT'S WHY BY INCORPORATING THE WORD PEDESTRIAN AS OPPOSED TO RESIDENT, IT DOES ENCOURAGE SO MANY OTHER THINGS. THE LIKES OF MAKING SURE THE SIDEWALKS ARE WIDE ENOUGH TO CLEAN UP THE VEHICLES ARE REDUCED AND FURTHER AWAY THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. I THINK JUST BY THAT, 
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LET'S AGAIN TAKE THIS NETTLE BY THE BY THE HAND AND NOT DANCE AROUND IT. YOU KNOW, COMMENT ABOUT I'M SORRY. PLEASE GO ON. NO, I WAS ACKNOWLEDGING THAT I HEARD THIS COMMENT. OKAY. AND DONE ON OBJECTIVE THREE. YOU KNOW, THE LANDSCAPING PROGRAM IN DIFFERENT POINTS IN THERE. I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO HATE TO HARP ON THIS, BUT SHADE TREES AND YOU KNOW, WE I KNOW THAT THE CITY HAS A, YOU KNOW, A TREE PLAN, BUT I'D LIKE TO JUST AND IT INCLUDES SHADE TREES BUT SHADE TREES, SHADE TREES, SHADE TREES I THINK IN A PARTICULAR WITH DEVELOPER. THANK YOU. OKAY. 
          IS THAT WRAP FOR TRANSPORTATION THAT DO IT FOR TRANSPORTATION. LET ME JUST A QUICK QUESTION. 
          DID WE BECAUSE ARE WE DONE WITH WHAT WAS RIGHT BEFORE TRANSPORTATION NUMBER. ARE WE DONE WITH THAT OR ARE YOU JUST JUMPING AROUND BECAUSE AARON HAD TO LEAVE A LITTLE BIT? I WAS I WAS MOVING, YEAH. I CONSIDERED PUBLIC FACILITIES AND WATER RESOURCES DONE. THE ONLY THING BECAUSE I DID HAVE ONE COMMENT ON THAT, ONE THAT I WANTED TO MENTION ON THE PUBLIC FACILITIES WAS WASTE LIKE LANDFILL MENTIONED IN THAT SECTION? YES. SO I DID WANT TO. 
          I FEEL LIKE IT WOULD BE WORTH MENTIONING IN THE COMP PLAN ESPECIALLY THIS IS LOOKING AT 2045. AND I KNOW THIS HAS BEEN TALKED ABOUT AT COUNCIL MEETINGS BEFORE, THE FACT THAT THE COLLIER COUNTY LANDFILL IS ESSENTIALLY GOING TO RUN OUT OF ROOM, EVENTUALLY HAVING A PLAN FOR, YOU KNOW, KIND OF LOOKING WHAT THE FUTURE, YOU KNOW, ENTAILS. WITH THAT, I DIDN'T SEE IT MENTIONED AT ALL IN THERE. IT, IT IT IS IN THE INTRODUCTION, THERE'S UPDATES TO REFER TO THE SIZE OF THE LANDFILL AND THE ESTIMATED LIFE OF THE LANDFILL THROUGH YEAR 2080. BUT WAS THERE ANY MENTIONING OF LIKE WHAT. SO SINCE OUR OUTLOOK IS AFTER THAT POINT. RIGHT. OUR OUTLOOK 2045. YEAH. THIS THIS YOU KNOW, FROM A DATA ANALYSIS PERSPECTIVE, WE'RE WE'RE PUTTING FORTH THAT THERE IS ADEQUATE CAPACITY THROUGH 2045 OKAY. SO JUST A SUGGESTION OF WORTH MENTIONING ON THAT VERY POINT, THE JOINT MEETING WITH CITY COUNCIL THERE WAS, YOU KNOW, MENTIONED ABOUT, AGAIN, THE LANDFILL. AND ONE THAT POINTED OUT RAISED THERE IS THE CURRENT THINKING, ESPECIALLY OUTSIDE OF THE US IS THE VALUE OF LANDFILL. I MEAN, YOU HAVE WHOLE COUNTRIES, YOU HAVE CHINA, WHO'S PROBABLY THE BIGGEST EXPONENT WHO ARE BUYING LANDFILL TO USE TO GENERATE ENERGY. SO, YOU KNOW, TO ACTUALLY IF WE CONSIDER WHAT OUR LANDFILLS ARE AND WHAT THE BUSINESS POTENTIAL THERE ARE, THAT WOULD HAVE A SELF-HEALING AND MAYBE EVEN A REVENUE GENERATION TO PAY FOR SOME OF THE OTHER GOOD IDEAS, BECAUSE THERE'S THERE'S MASSIVE RESEARCH AROUND EFFECTIVE RESEARCH AROUND ECONOMIC MODELS TO MAXIMIZE LANDFILL AND TURN IT TO ENERGY AND HENCE REDUCE LANDFILL. THAT'S A TERRIFIC IDEA. AND DURING, YOU KNOW, AS WE APPROACH 2045, WE SHOULD BE PLANNING FOR ALL OF THESE THINGS AND PLANNING RIGHT AWAY TO SEE HOW WE CAN MINIMIZE OUR OUR SOLID WASTE, MONETIZE OUR SOLID WASTE AND SO FORTH. AND SO THERE SHOULD BE A PART OF THE ELEMENT THAT SAYS WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT THESE OPPORTUNITIES. AND, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, EFFECTUATING THEM AS, AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. SO, YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD BE A COORDINATION WITH COLLIER COUNTY TYPE POLICY BECAUSE THERE IT'S THERE. WELL, LET ME JUST ORGANIZATIONAL BECAUSE IT'S A LITTLE AFTER 12. NOW WHAT ELSE DO WE HAVE. WE HAVE YET TO DO PARKS, RECREATION, OPEN SPACE, INTERGOVERNMENTAL COORDINATION, CONCURRENCY. SO THE BIG ONE WHICH IS FUTURE LAND USE, IS IT APPROPRIATE TO TAKE A BREAK NOW. YEAH, I KNEW THAT. AND I DON'T WANT TO SPOIL. 
          CAN WE TAKE A HALF AN HOUR BREAK. YEP. OKAY. THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH. T CALL THE MEETING. BACK TO ORDER. ANDREW. YOU HAVE A COMMENT YOU WANT TO ADD TO? YES. BACK TO THE THE 186 LEGISLATION. THE LATEST INFORMATION I HAVE. SO. SENATOR DASCHLE HAS FILED SENATE BILL 840, WHICH HAS GONE THROUGH. AND THEY'RE TRYING TO GET SOME CHANGES TO HOUSE BILL 399, WHICH WILL MATCH UP. SO IT'S PRETTY WELL THROUGH THE PROCESS THAT WE SHOULD KNOW SOMETHING IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS ABOUT THAT FIX. THAT'S ESSENTIALLY THE THE HOUSE BILL IS SENATE BILL OR THE SENATE BILL IS 840. AND I THINK THEY'RE TRYING TO PUT SOME LANGUAGE INTO HOUSE BILL 399. AND THAT IS THE FIX FOR THE 
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INFAMOUS SENATE BILL. 180 WELL, FINGERS CROSSED. GOOD THINGS. OKAY. ARE YOU READY TO CONTINUE? YES, SIR. WHERE DO YOU WANT TO START? OKAY. LAURA DOEJOHN, FOR THE RECORD, WE WILL START WITH ELEMENT NINE, PARKS, RECREATION AND OPEN SPACE. AND WE'LL MOVE THROUGH THE END OF THE ELEMENTS AND RETURN BACK TO FUTURE LAND USE TO CLOSE OUT. OKAY, SO WE'RE ON ELEMENT NINE NOW. 
          PARKS, RECREATION AND OPEN SPACE. WITH THIS ELEMENT. MOST OF THE WORK DONE WAS MORE, I WOULDN'T SAY HOUSEKEEPING IN NATURE, BRINGING IN UP TO DATE INFORMATION. A LOT OF THE INFORMATION IN THE PARKS, RECREATION AND OPEN SPACE ELEMENT WAS CAPTURING LEVELS OF SERVICE FOR FACILITIES THAT NO LONGER MAKE SENSE TO BE TRACKING. SO WE'RE FORTIFYING THE ELEMENT WITH MORE OF THE CHARACTER TYPE OBJECTIVES OF THE OF THE VISION ELEMENT, AND ALSO THE GREEN SPACE OR GREEN JEWEL CONCEPT THAT WE'VE HARKENED BACK TO FROM OLD ELEMENT OR OLD VISION DOCUMENTS. SO BASICALLY. UPDATING POLICY REGARDING OPEN SPACE PROVISIONS FOR CERTAIN LAND USES AND POLICY. 1.8 TALKING ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT THE PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITY IS INCORPORATING OPEN SPACES BASED ON WHAT WOULD BE IMPLEMENTED IN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE OR LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS. THE OTHER ASPECTS OF THIS ELEMENT THAT RECOGNIZE RESILIENCY NOW, AND WE ALSO RECOGNIZE THAT THE CITY IS UNDERWAY WITH A NEW PARKS AND RECREATION MASTER PLAN. SO WE DON'T REALLY NEED TO ENUMERATE AND SPELL OUT A LOT OF INFORMATION IN THIS COMP PLAN. WHEN THE CITY WE REFER TO WHAT THE CITY IS DOING FROM A PARKS AND RECREATION MASTER PLAN STANDPOINT. I'VE DONE MY BEST TO SUMMARIZE, I DIDN'T. I'LL SAY I'LL CONFESS I DIDN'T WORK DIRECTLY ON THIS ELEMENT. SO IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS OR FEEDBACK, I'LL CAPTURE IT. NOW JUST TRYING TO LOOK AT THINGS THAT IF YOU LIKE, CAUSE WHAT I WOULD USE THE TERM ENTRAPMENT AND WHERE WE HAVE THE, THE LIST OF COMMUNITY PARTS, CONSERVATIVE AREAS, MAYBE PRIOR TO THAT, IF WE INCLUDED SOMETHING LIKE THE WORD IN SOME OF WHICH ARE NAMED BELOW, THAT WAY WE INCLUDE EXCLUDE OR IF WE WANTED TO ADD TO IT A LATER DATE, IT ALLOWS THAT ABILITY TO, RATHER THAN THE FINDING OUT LATER THAT WE'VE MISSED SOMEWHERE ELSE. OR WE WANT TO ADD SOMEWHERE. AGREED. BECAUSE THIS THIS DRAFT PROVES THAT THESE ARE CHANGING FEATURES OVER TIME. SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE JUST CAPTURING THE BACKGROUND IN THE INTRODUCTION SECTION AND WE CAN MAKE SURE IT'S CLEAR THAT IT'S AN A MOMENT IN TIME. I HAVE A QUESTION. ON POLICY. 1.7 ON THE SHARED USE OF SCHOOL FACILITIES. 
          WAS THAT WAS THERE A REASON WHY THAT WAS CROSSED OUT? YOU KNOW, OR I DON'T UNDERSTAND YOU DIDN'T WORK ON THIS SECTION, SO MAYBE YOU DON'T KNOW. NO, IT'S A FAIR QUESTION. I MEAN, THE SPECIFIC CHANGE TIES THIS DOWN TO SEAGATE PARK VERSUS A GENERIC STATEMENT ABOUT CO-LOCATION OF FACILITIES. ERICA, DOES THAT RING A BELL TO YOU? WHY SEAGATE PARK WOULD BE CALLED OUT. DOESN'T THAT MIGHT HAVE COME DIRECTLY FROM OUR PARKS AND RECORD COMMUNITY SERVICES DIRECTOR. AND YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THE IS IT THE CSA? B'S GOING TO KIND OF WORK ON THIS SECTION WITH THE. SO PLANS OR NO. YEAH, SO THE CSA. B IT'S NOT THAT THEY'RE WORKING DIRECTLY ON THIS. THEY ARE WORKING ON UPDATING THE PARK'S MASTER PLAN. AND SO THAT'S THE YOU'LL SEE CHANGES TO THE WAY WE REPORT PARKS LEVELS OF SERVICE IN HERE. THOSE WILL ALL BE UPDATED, FIRST OF ALL, TO BE TO MEET NATIONAL STANDARDS, WHICH WE DON'T IN OURS, AND THEN ALSO TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE PARK'S MASTER PLAN WHEN IT'S ADOPTED. THE PROBLEM IS THEY'RE KIND OF HAPPENING IN TANGENT. SO. GARY YOUNG CITY MANAGER I'LL TAKE THAT ONE AS FAR AS THEY'RE NAMING THAT ONE, BECAUSE THAT IS THE RELATIONSHIP PARK THAT WE ALREADY EXIST. I THINK THE SUGGESTION OF PUTTING THE LANGUAGE, ENCOURAGING AGREEMENTS THAT WHICH BETWEEN THE SCHOOLS AND THE CITY, WHICH WOULD ENCOURAGE JOINT WHATEVER, 
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YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT'S A FAIR STATEMENT. HOWEVER, IDENTIFYING THAT WHICH IS AND BELOW IS AN EXAMPLE OF THAT STILL SETS YOU UP, AS SHOULD YOU BE ABLE TO GET ANOTHER ARRANGEMENT. BUT KEEP IN MIND, SCHOOLS, EVEN IN THAT ONE, HAVE WHERE THEY'VE INCREASED THE NUMBER OF FENCES FOR THEIR OWN SECURITY AND IT'S A VERY HEAVY LIFT. SO IF YOU'RE GOING TO GO DOWN THAT ROAD, THAT IS, IT IS SOMEWHAT ASPIRATIONAL WHILE ACKNOWLEDGING THE ONE THAT EXISTS AND THEN SAYING THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT ANYTHING LIKE THAT, THAT CAN BOLSTER OUR PARTICIPATION BETWEEN OUR OR TO BENEFIT OUR RESIDENTS MAY BE A GOOD SUGGESTION, BUT THAT ONE IS THAT WAY BECAUSE OF THE DIRECT RELATIONSHIP THAT ALREADY EXISTS. YEAH, I WAS CURIOUS ABOUT THAT BECAUSE TO I MEAN, TECHNICALLY, DON'T WE HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE ON THIS BOARD FROM THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, RIGHT? THAT THAT WOULD BE THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO MAYBE KIND OF GET SOME INPUT FROM THEM, BECAUSE I DO THINK THAT WOULD BE ADVANTAGEOUS FOR US. YOU KNOW, IF WE COULD, THAT'S PROBABLY NOT THE PROPER TIME FOR THIS CONVERSATION. BUT HAVING JUST KIND OF THAT IDEA OF SEEKING OPPORTUNITIES, I THINK WOULD BE ADVANTAGEOUS FOR THE COMP PLAN. BUT, YOU KNOW, SPECIFICS OBVIOUSLY COMES FURTHER DOWN THE ROAD. SO SURE. 
          AND THEY HAVE COMPETING NEEDS. AND THAT HAS BEEN AN ITEM OF CONTENTION AT POINTS. BUT IT CERTAINLY WHERE THE OPPORTUNITY PRESENTS ITSELF. I THINK. YES, I'M NOT SURE WHERE THIS WHERE THIS MIGHT GO IN THIS ELEMENT, BUT I'M A HUGE FAN OF THE LINEAR PARK THAT RUNS ALONG SOUTH BROAD, AND IT RUNS FROM BASICALLY THIRD STREET TOWARD, YOU KNOW, THE, THE BAY, CRAYTON COVE. YEAH, IT'S GOT BEAUTIFUL BLACK OLIVE TREES, REALLY NICE. AND SO AS I LOOK AROUND TOWN, THERE ARE OTHER. SORT OF SIMILAR AREAS, LIKE ALONG SIXTH STREET NORTH OF CENTRAL, FOR EXAMPLE. AND IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES IN TOWN FOR US TO CREATE SORT OF MINI LINEAR PARKS THAT WOULD GIVE US THE OPPORTUNITY TO PLANT SHADE TREES AND HAVE MAYBE BENCHES AND OTHER AMENITIES. SO ANYWAY, I'D KIND OF LIKE TO HAVE AN ELEMENT, NOT AN ELEMENT. A SUGGESTION AT SOME STAGE ABOUT LOOKING AROUND TOWN FOR, FOR LINEAR PARK SPACES, AND THEN PERHAPS ALSO ACQUIRING LAND. I'M THINKING ABOUT THE LAND AT THE CORNER OF BROAD AND THIRD STREET SOUTH THAT I THINK IS OWNED BY MRS. TOBIN AND HER ORGANIZATION. I FORGET WHAT IT'S CALLED, MAYBE NEAPOLITAN, BUT THAT'S GOT A BIG, BEAUTIFUL BANYAN TREE IN IT. AND, AND IT WOULD BE REALLY NICE TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO, TO TURN THAT INTO A PARK TO, TO PRESERVE THAT BANYAN TREE AND SO FORTH. AND SO ANYWAY, I'D LIKE TO HAVE SOME AND MAYBE I'M CALLING FOR AN ASPIRATIONAL SORT OF THING, BUT SOMETHING THAT WOULD. REQUIRE THE CITY TO LOOK FOR OPPORTUNITIES TO ACQUIRE GREEN SPACE, TO CREATE LINEAR PARKS AND SO FORTH. 
          ENOUGH SAID. BUT I'D LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING IN THERE TO THAT EFFECT. ANYBODY ELSE ON PARKS AND RECREATION? OKAY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. ELEMENT TEN IS INTERGOVERNMENTAL COORDINATION. 
          SO THIS ELEMENT OFTENTIMES CAN BE A LOT OF KIND OF BASIC LANGUAGE. EVERY CITY AND EVERY COUNTY NEEDS TO INTERGOVERNMENTALLY COORDINATE. SO SOME OF THAT BASIC LANGUAGE LIVES IN YOUR INTERGOVERNMENTAL COORDINATION ALREADY. HOWEVER, THE WORK WE'VE DONE IS TO FORTIFY THE MORE SPECIFIC DIRECTIVES THAT CAN BE ACTED UPON IN THE CONTEXT OF INTERGOVERNMENTAL COORDINATION. AND WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS I'M GOING TO GET TO THE RIGHT ELEMENT HERE. SORRY. GOVERNMENTAL. SO WE WE'VE HEARD THAT EXTERNAL PRESSURES IS A MAJOR CONCERN OF RESIDENTS AND LEADERSHIP IN THE CITY. SO THE CLARIFYING THE INTENT TO MONITOR AND COORDINATE WITH THE JURISDICTIONS OUTSIDE THE CITY ON THE IMPACTS TO PUBLIC SERVICES PROVIDED BY NAPLES, WE HAVE THAT ELABORATED IN WHAT'S NOW POLICY 1.2 ON PAGE FIVE OF THIS ELEMENT. AND WE SPECIFICALLY CROSS-REFERENCE WHAT STATUTORILY IS A MECHANISM 
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FOR CITIES AND COUNTIES TO INTERACT, WHICH IS A JOINT PLANNING AGREEMENT. AND WE SPECIFY THE TYPE OF TOPIC, TYPES OF TOPICS THAT CAN BE ADDRESSED PER STATUTE, WHICH ARE DRAINAGE, PROTECTION OF WATER BASINS, LAND USE PLANNING AND GROWTH MANAGEMENT FOR AREAS WHERE THE CITY ABUTS AN UNINCORPORATED COLLIER COUNTY, AND THEN THE ACTION ITEM, THERE'S TWO ACTION ITEMS. ONE IS PREEXISTING, TALKING ABOUT JOINT PLANNING AGREEMENTS AND LAND USE STUDIES BETWEEN THE COUNTY AND THE CITY ON LAND WITHIN TWO MILES. AND THEN WE ADDED REFERENCE TO THERE COULD BE NEED OR DESIRE TO DO JOINT PLANNING AGREEMENTS AND LAND USE STUDIES WITH CLEAR COUNTY BEYOND A TWO MILE RADIUS FROM THE CITY. THE. THE NEXT MECHANISM LISTED AS POLICY 1.3 IS THE INTER LOCAL SERVICE BOUNDARY AGREEMENT OPTION. THIS IS ALSO ALLOWED PER FLORIDA STATUTE, AND THE CITY HAS DONE INTERLOCAL SERVICE BOUNDARY AGREEMENTS. THE CITY'S WATER SERVICES EXTEND OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMITS. FIRE AND POLICE CAN EXTEND OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMITS AND VICE VERSA. THE COUNTY CAN NEGOTIATE SERVICES WITH THE CITY. SO THERE'S ANOTHER MECHANISM THAT WE'VE MADE MORE SPECIFIC TO TO FURTHER WHAT WE'RE HEARING, WHICH IS THERE'S A LOT OF CONCERN ABOUT CITY AND COUNTY INTERACTION AND INFLUENCES OF COUNTY ACTIVITIES ON THE CITY. THOSE ARE THE HIGHLIGHTS. IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS YOU ALL HAVE? NO. AN IDEA WHICH IS VIRTUALLY EMBRACED ALREADY WITHIN THE CITY IS THAT ON THE SELECTION AND ELECTION OF NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS OR EACH YEAR THEY THEY'LL GO THROUGH ABOUT IDENTIFYING WHICH COMMITTEES PEOPLE WILL SERVE ON. I THINK IT WOULD BE A GREAT IDEA, BOTH FROM CITY COUNCIL MEMBER AND THE CITY AS A WHOLE. IS THAT THE QUARTERLY OR WHATEVER, THAT EACH MEMBER IS ATTACHED TO ONE OF THESE INTERLINKING BODIES? THEY MAY NOT BE THE PERSON WHO GOES THERE, BUT THEY'RE THE PERSON WHO PRESENT TO THE PUBLIC EVERY QUARTER. WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THE CITY IN THE AIRPORT, WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THE CITY, AND WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH CITY AND WHICHEVER OTHER BODIES DESIGNED OR DESIGNATED AS KEY. AND I THINK THAT WOULD BE GOOD FOR THE GROUNDING OF INDIVIDUAL CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, WHICH WILL ADD TO THE EXPERIENCE AND EFFECTIVE DECISION MAKING OF THE COUNCIL. 
          AND IT WILL ALSO DRAW THAT COMMITMENT AND COMMUNICATION TO THE PUBLIC AS WELL. I ALSO THINK I MEAN, ON TOP OF THAT, I MEAN, I DON'T I DON'T KNOW IF YOU COULD DO THIS, BUT AGAIN, IF WE'RE PUTTING THIS AS KIND OF GOALS FOR THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OF KIND OF ESTABLISHING SOME TYPE OF JOINT MEETING BETWEEN COUNCIL AND COMMISSION, IF THEY COULD DO THAT, THAT WOULD I THINK THAT WOULD BE A HUGE BENEFIT. SO THE BEAUTY OF THIS IS WE CAN CRAFT THOSE IDEAS IN. AND THEN CITY COUNCIL IS THE ONES WHO WILL GET TO SEE AND DECIDE IF THEY ENDORSE THOSE IDEAS. JUST A QUICK QUESTION. IS IT UNDER POLICY? CURRENT POLICY NUMBER 1.2 IS THAT THE AREA UNDER WHICH BY WHICH THROUGH WHICH THE THE CITY AND THE COUNTY MIGHT INTERACT CONCERNING THE THE BUILDING OF OF BUILDINGS ON COUNTY PROPERTY ON THE DOORSTEP OF NAPLES? YES. A JOINT LAND PLANNING AGREEMENT COULD BE AN EXAMPLE OF OF CREATING SOME TYPE OF STANDARDS AND PARAMETERS THAT BOTH JURISDICTIONS AGREE TO BASED ON CAPACITIES OR, YOU KNOW, LIMITATIONS THAT BOTH JURISDICTIONS CAN AGREE TO. AND IT MIGHT BE NICE AND MAYBE IT'S INCORPORATED INTO THERE. I APOLOGIZE FOR NOT KNOWING THIS, BUT IT MIGHT BE NICE TO HAVE AN ACTION OR, OR A SEPARATE POLICY THAT ENCOURAGES THE THE COUNTY HAS ENCOURAGES THE CITY TO REQUEST THE COUNTY TO GIVE FOREWARNING OF OF POTENTIAL PROJECTS ON THE ON THE THE BORDER. WHERE THAT COMES FROM, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE. 
          AND I COULD BE WRONG ABOUT THIS, BUT BUT ANECDOTALLY, I UNDERSTAND THAT THE DAVIS TRIANGLE PROJECT CAME UP, CAME AS A BIT OF A SURPRISE TO THE CITY AND, AND THE, THE COUNTY COULD HAVE REACHED OUT UNDER SOME SORT OF COOPERATIVE AGREEMENT TO SAY, HEY, LISTEN, 
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WE'RE GOING TO PUT THIS HUGE DEVELOPMENT ON YOUR DOORSTEP. WHAT DO YOU THINK? I THINK THAT'S AN ASPIRATIONAL COMMENT, KNOWING THE COUNTY. AND I THINK THOSE I MEAN, WHAT YOU'RE DESCRIBING WOULD BE IN THE INTERWORKINGS OF SUCH AN AGREEMENT, THE AGREEMENT WOULD START TO ENUMERATE IF THERE CAN OR IF THERE'S AGREEMENT TO HAVE SOME COOPERATIVE NOTIFICATION SYSTEM, BUT TO MAKE IT A YEAH, TO MAKE IT AN ACTION THAT THE CITY WILL ACHIEVE. THIS IS VULNERABLE TO SOMETHING THEY CAN'T CONTROL. YEAH, EXACTLY. SO I WAS THINKING ABOUT MAYBE AN ACTION THAT WOULD WOULD, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW, SOME WAY TO HAVE A TRIGGER THAT WOULD. 
          TRIGGER THE THE COUNTY, I'M SORRY, THE CITY TO APPROACH THE COUNTY TO, TO ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT THAT WOULD INCLUDE THAT PROVISION. MAYBE I'M DRILLING DOWN TOO DEEP, BUT BUT THAT'S JUST MY THOUGHT. RIGHT. THANK YOU. ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS ONE? OKAY. NEXT. NEXT. 
          ELEMENT 11 IS THE CONCURRENCY AND CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS ELEMENT. I'LL APOLOGIZE UP FRONT. THE DOCUMENT WE PROVIDED TO YOU HAD A DUPLICATION OF THESE. THE SECOND ONE IN YOUR PACKET IS THE ACCURATE ONE. AND THE ONLY REASON IT WAS A MISTAKE ON OUR PART WAS WE DID A REFINEMENT TO THIS ELEMENT TO CALIBRATE THE TRANSPORTATION LEVEL OF SERVICE CHANGE THAT I TOLD YOU ABOUT EARLIER TODAY INTO THIS DOCUMENT. SO IT IS CLERICAL AND WE WE WILL LOOK AT. 
          I WILL REFER TO THE SECOND ONE IN YOUR PACKAGE AS I TALK THROUGH THE CONCURRENCY AND CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS ELEMENT. BEAR WITH ME. I'LL GET TO THAT. OKAY. AND I WILL MENTION CONCURRENCY HAS HISTORICALLY BEEN AN ELEMENT IN CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS HAS HISTORICALLY BEEN AN ELEMENT. WE ARE COMBINING THEM BECAUSE THEY RELATE TO ONE ANOTHER. YOU BASICALLY, AS A CITY WANT TO ENFORCE LEVEL OF SERVICE STANDARDS THAT YOU'VE DEFINED IN YOUR COMP PLAN ON ANY TYPE OF NEW DEVELOPMENT. AND ANY TIME I KNOW YOU GUYS, THE CITY DOES A GOOD JOB OF ANNUALLY DOING A LEVEL OF SERVICE REPORT. YOU JUST SAW IT IN FEBRUARY. I BELIEVE ANY TIME A DEFICIENCY IS FOUND IN MEETING LEVEL OF SERVICE WITHIN THE CITY, THAT'S WHERE THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS ELEMENT DEFINES THE COST, THE EXPENDITURE AND THE ACTIVITY THAT'S GOING TO FUND A DEFICIENCY AND LEVEL OF SERVICE. YOU DON'T HAVE ANY DEFICIENCIES IN LEVEL OF SERVICE AT THIS TIME. BUT THE POLICIES IN PLACE RECOGNIZE THAT. THAT'S SOMETHING FROM A PLANNING STANDPOINT, YOU ALWAYS HAVE TO BE PREPARED FOR. SO THIS ELEMENT HAS A LOT OF EDITS THAT RELATE TO THE THEME OF RESILIENCY, BECAUSE WE DID THE UPDATES TO LEVELS OF SERVICE STANDARDS, AS WE TALKED ABOUT THROUGHOUT THE DAY. THEY ALL ARE IMPLEMENTED HERE IN THIS ELEMENT JUST FOR ORGANIZATIONAL PURPOSES. YOU SEE ALL YOUR LEVEL OF SERVICE STANDARDS, YOU SEE ALL OF THE UPDATES AND THEN RESILIENCY RELATED CRITERIA THAT ARE NOW BEING THOUGHT ABOUT WHEN IT COMES TO PUBLIC EXPENDITURES THAT NEED TO ACCOUNT FOR RESILIENCE EFFORTS. THE PUBLIC SCHOOL FACILITIES ELEMENT THAT IS BEING STRICKEN BECAUSE IT'S EXTRANEOUS. YOU'LL SEE THE PUBLIC SCHOOL FACILITY COORDINATION AND CRITERIA HERE DROPPED INTO THIS ELEMENT AS WELL. AT THE END OF THE ELEMENT RELATED TO SCHOOL COORDINATION AND COORDINATING WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT ON CAPACITIES OF SCHOOL, MAKING SURE THERE'S ADEQUATE CAPACITY FOR SCHOOL CHILDREN. THE THE STATUTE REQUIRES A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN, A FIVE YEAR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN. WE HAVEN'T PUT THAT IN HERE, BUT I KNOW THE CITY MAINTAINS THEIR FIVE YEAR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN. WE'LL MAKE SURE IT'S REFERENCED. 
          MR. CHAIRMAN, I THINK THIS WOULD BE THE EXCELLENT PLACE TO INCLUDE IN THE CONCURRENCY OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. SO THIS IS WHERE, YOU KNOW, YOU COULD HAVE AN ANNUAL REVIEW, BE IT A 
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STAFF MEMBER BE WHATEVER OF ARE WE MEETING AN OBLIGATION THAT WE'VE STATED IN THE PLAN, IF NOT, HOW NOT WERE NOT. BUT I THINK THIS COULD BE A SELF CIRCLING AREA THAT THAT GIVES US A DETERMINED TIME BY WHICH WE REVIEW THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN PER SE, IRRESPECTIVE OF WHICH EVER AREA. BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE SIMILAR TO THE CONCURRENCY. ARE WE MEETING OUR SERVICE LEVELS, OUR SERVICE LEVELS? ARE WE MEETING THE WORDS OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN? SO IN OTHER WORDS, WE'RE ACTUALLY PUTTING IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT WE'RE GOING TO REVIEW OUR WORK AND OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO SEE ARE WE INADVERTENTLY OR ADVERTENTLY MEETING CERTAIN ANY AREA. IT'S AN OPEN, OPEN ZONE. IF IT DOESN'T FIT, IT'LL BE THE AREA THAT COULD FIT INTO. GOOD SUGGESTION. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? OKAY, OKAY. MOVING ON TO THE LAST ELEMENT BEFORE WE CIRCLE BACK TO FUTURE LAND USE. THE ELEMENT 12 IS PROPERTY RIGHTS ELEMENT AND THERE'S SHOULD BE NOT MUCH TO DISCUSS HERE BECAUSE IT IS A STATE MANDATED ELEMENT. IT'S VERY STRAIGHTFORWARD AND WE DO NOT PROPOSE ANY CHANGES TO IT. SO WITH NO COMMENTS ARE THERE NO COMMENTS FOR PROPERTY RIGHTS ELEMENT AS IT IS WHAT IT IS? LEONL TACKLE FUTURE LAND USE. I JUST HAVE ON JUST ON THE PROPERTY RIGHTS ELEMENT. THERE IS SUGGESTED LANGUAGE IN THE STATUTE, BUT IT'S NOT REQUIRED. SO I DON'T KNOW IF WE'VE GOT IF WE'RE IF THE CITY HAS JUST PICKED UP A LOT, A LOT OF CITIES JUST ARE USING WHAT'S IN THE STATUTE, BUT YOU'RE, YOU'RE ALLOWED TO HAVE YOUR OWN LANGUAGE. WELL, LET ME ASK YOU ABOUT THE STATUTE. I MEAN, IF ARE WE TALKING ABOUT THE ONE THAT'S ABOUT TO BE CHANGED OR ARE WE. NO, NO, THIS IS ON THE COMMUNITY PLANNING ACT. YEAH. SO THE PROPERTY RIGHTS ELEMENT, AS LAURA HAD SAID, WAS PROBABLY THE LATEST ELEMENT THAT WAS ADDED TO THE MENU OF THINGS THAT THE LEGISLATURE WANTED IN YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. AND SEVERAL LOCAL GOVERNMENTS HAVE JUST USED THE LANGUAGE, THE STANDARD LANGUAGE THAT'S SUGGESTED IN THE STATUTE. BUT I ALWAYS TRY TO REMIND PEOPLE THAT THAT'S NOT THE ONLY LANGUAGE YOU COULD USE. YOU COULD HAVE YOUR OWN, BUT THAT'S NOT THE ONE THAT'S NOT THE SB. RIGHT. OKAY. AT ALL. BUT IF YOU DO, YEAH, IT COULD BE AFFECTING ALL OF THESE THINGS COULD BE AFFECTED BY SB 180. IF IT'S NOT CHANGED, I DON'T KNOW. I I'M NOT FEELING VERY COOPERATIVE TOWARD THE STATE. SO I'D LIKE TO KEEP OUR OWN ELEMENT BECAUSE IF THEY CHANGE THE LAW, I MEAN, THEY'RE BOUNCING ALL OVER TALLAHASSEE RIGHT NOW. WE'RE TRYING TO DECIDE WHAT DAY OF THE WEEK IT IS. THAT'S PRETTY MUCH WHAT THEY DO. YES. SO I THINK MY RECOMMENDATION IS TO STAY WITH WHAT WE HAVE. AGREE. 
          AND SO LOOK, MAYBE THIS IS TOO MUCH TO GO INTO. BUT LET'S SUPPOSE THAT SOMEONE WELL, LET'S SUPPOSE THAT WE HAVE A DISPUTE WITH SOMEONE, FOR EXAMPLE, WHO WANTS TO BUILD A HOTEL IN THE CITY AND THEY SAY, OUR PROPERTY RIGHTS ARE THIS. WE SAY, NO, YOUR PROPERTY RIGHTS ARE THAT. I MEAN, HOW DOES HOW DOES OUR BRING A DISPUTE? HOW DOES THAT FIT WITH THIS? BECAUSE, I MEAN, WE HAD A DECLARATORY JUDGMENT ACT FILED AGAINST US TO ESTABLISH THEIR RIGHTS. WE'RE PROMISING TO TO RECOGNIZE AND RESPECT PEOPLE'S RIGHTS, BUT WE HAVE TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO, TO DISAGREE AND, AND TO TRY TO. 1.2 DEAL WITH THAT. PARDON ME, 1.2 DEALS WITH THAT. VISIONS OF THE CITY STATE LAW COMPREHENSIVE. AND THAT'S UNDER WHICH WE WOULD. OR THEY WOULD TOO. YEAH. YEAH I OKAY. OKAY. MOVING ON TO FUTURE LAND USE. YEAH. KEEP IT. OKAY, GREAT. 
          ALL RIGHT. SO THIS IS THE FUN ELEMENT THAT COVERS KIND OF A LITTLE BIT OF EVERYTHING, RIGHT? A LOT OF IT COMES TO COMES INTO PLAY IN THIS ONE. SO THE WAY WE'VE GOT THIS SET UP IS 
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WALKING THROUGH SOME OF THE CRITICAL PIECES. BUT I IMAGINE YOU HAVE OTHER QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS THAT WOULD BE HAPPY TO TO WALK THROUGH AS WELL. SO REALLY THE, THE KEY COMPONENTS TO WHAT ARE IN THE CHANGES THAT YOU SEE IN THE DRAFT BEFORE YOU ARE, AGAIN, THE INTEGRATION OF THE VISION ELEMENT INITIATIVES AND PRIORITIES, FOCUSING ON RESILIENCY, THE GREEN JEWEL CONCEPT, CHARACTER COMPATIBILITY AND PLACE KEEPING. THOSE WERE VERY MUCH KIND OF THE KEY THEMES WE WERE LOOKING AT THROUGH THIS, THROUGH THESE REVISIONS, LOOKING AT RESILIENCY, THERE ARE REFINEMENTS TO THE INTRODUCTION SECTION WHERE WE'VE GOT KIND OF THE LIST OF DESCRIPTION ABOUT THE GOALS, OBJECTIVES, AND POLICIES THAT INCLUDE RESILIENCY COMPONENTS. THEY'RE ALSO REVISIONS TO THE GOALS AND OBJECTIVE POLICIES WITHIN THE ELEMENT ITSELF TO INCORPORATE LANGUAGE THAT SUPPORTS RESILIENCY AND CONNECTS TO RESILIENCY GOALS, POLICIES, AND OBJECTIVES THAT ARE INCLUDED WITHIN OTHER ELEMENTS. SO THERE'S A LOT OF PEPPERING OF RESILIENCY THROUGHOUT THIS ELEMENT. RELATED TO THAT ARE KIND OF THE GREEN CONCEPTS. SO REALLY ADVANCING GOALS, OBJECTIVES, AND POLICIES RELATED TO OPEN SPACE, TREES AND LANDSCAPING IN PARTICULAR, AND COORDINATION WITH THE RESILIENCY GOALS, OBJECTIVES, POLICIES. AND I'LL DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO OBJECTIVE NUMBER FOUR ON PAGE 16, WHERE WE'VE GOT THE ADVANCED, THE VISION OF THE GREEN JEWEL. AND WE TALK ABOUT AND POLICY 4.1 PROMOTING FLORIDA FRIENDLY LANDSCAPING. THERE ARE NEW PROVISIONS THERE THAT TALK ABOUT UPDATES TO THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE TO INCORPORATE KIND OF RIGHT TREE, RIGHT PLACE IN FLORIDA. FRIENDLY LANDSCAPING PRACTICES. ALSO LOOKING AT WAYS TO KIND OF CREATE INCENTIVES FOR THOSE. THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT CAME UP AT OUR AT THE LAST MEETING, JOINT MEETING WITH COUNCIL. AND THEN YOU CAN SEE ON THE FOLLOWING PAGE PROMOTING TREE PROTECTION. THERE'S A NUMBER OF NEW A NEW POLICY AND NEW ACTIONS THERE THAT SPECIFICALLY IDENTIFY PROTECTION RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE'RE BRINGING FORWARD AS PART OF THIS. AND PART OF THAT INCLUDES INCORPORATION OF YOUR NEW URBAN FOREST GREEN PRINT 2024 PLAN, YOUR TREE PROTECTION PLAN. SO THERE'S THAT IS SOMETHING THAT'S KIND OF ALSO PEPPERED THROUGHOUT THE DOCUMENT, BUT VERY CLOSELY FOLDED IN WITHIN THIS PARTICULAR PARTICULAR POLICY. YEAH, I THINK THAT COVERS IT. THEN KIND OF LOOKING AT CHARACTER COMPATIBILITY AND PLACE KEEPING AS SEVERAL THEMES THAT ARE IN SUPPORT OF EACH OTHER. I'M GOING TO JUMP TO THE KIND OF SECOND BULLET HERE AND LOOK AT LET ME GET HERE, PAGE 22. THE NEW OBJECTIVE SIX PROTECT COMMUNITY CHARACTER. I THINK ONE OF THE KEY THINGS THAT WE LOOKED AT THROUGH THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT WAS TRYING TO GET A GOOD SENSE OF WHEN WE HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT REDEVELOPMENT, WHAT EXACTLY ARE THOSE CONCERNS? WHAT'S KIND OF COMING OUT OF THE GROUND THAT PEOPLE ARE HAVING A REACTION TO THAT'S REALLY IMPACTING CHARACTER AND THE EXPERIENCE THAT PEOPLE HAVE IN THE COMMUNITY FROM A PHYSICAL ENVIRONMENT STANDPOINT. SO IN POLICY, THE NEW OBJECTIVE SIX PROTECT COMMUNITY CHARACTER. THERE'S A NEW POLICY. 6.1 THAT SPEAKS TO UPDATING GUIDELINES AND REGULATIONS TO SUPPORT PLACE KEEPING PRINCIPLES. AND WE TALK ABOUT KIND OF THE TWO MAIN PLACES THAT YOU DEAL WITH CHARACTER, YOUR KIND OF PROCESSES AND DOCUMENTS THAT HELP GUIDE AND REGULATE CHARACTER. AND THE FIRST ONE THAT'S MENTIONED HERE IS THE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD PROCESS AND THE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD HANDBOOK THAT THEY USE. AND THE IDEA HERE IS THAT THERE WOULD BE AN EFFORT TO IDENTIFY CHANGES OR ADDITIONS TO THAT HANDBOOK THAT LOOKED AT BUILDING HEIGHT, BUILDING, MASSING AND OPEN SPACE. THOSE WERE THE THREE KEY THINGS THAT WE IDENTIFIED COMING OUT OF THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT THAT REALLY KIND OF NEED CLOSER ATTENTION, AND POSSIBLY SOME REFINEMENTS IN TERMS OF HOW DESIGN IS GUIDED THROUGH THAT PROCESS. AND AS IT'S INCORPORATED IN THE HANDBOOK ITSELF. WE ALSO RECOMMEND HERE INCORPORATING RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE 2024 URBAN FORESTRY PLAN WITH REGARD TO LANDSCAPING AND TREE PROTECTION THAT THAT ALSO BE INCLUDED WITHIN THE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD HANDBOOK. THEN MOVING TO DOWN TO POLICY 6.3. 
          THAT'S WHERE WE GET TO THE LDC, THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, BECAUSE THERE, AGAIN, THESE TWO KIND OF PROCESSES AND DOCUMENTS THAT ARE, THAT HAVE AN INFLUENCE ON CHARACTER COMING OUT OF THE GROUND. SO THE IDEA HERE IS GETTING A LITTLE BIT FINER GRAINED IN TERMS OF WHAT CHANGES YOU MIGHT WANT TO SEE IN YOUR LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. SO IF YOU LOOK AT WITH RESPECT 
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TO CHARACTER, IF YOU LOOK AT ACTIONS SIX, THREE, ONE, THREE TWO AND THREE THREE, WE MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS. AND THIS AGAIN IS VERY MUCH CONNECTED TO THE FEEDBACK THAT WE RECEIVED FROM THE PUBLIC THROUGH THIS, PARTICULARLY THE SECOND ROUND OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT. BUT THAT WAS ALSO KIND OF SUPPORT IN THE FIRST AS LOOKING AT COMMERCIAL AND MIXED USE DEVELOPMENTS AND WHAT WHAT AMENDMENTS YOU MIGHT WANT TO MAKE TO THOSE DEVELOPMENT PROVISIONS, THOSE DIMENSIONAL STANDARDS, SPECIFICALLY LOOKING AT MINIMUM YARDS AND SETBACKS, MAXIMUM BUILDING AREAS AND CONSIDERING REQUIRING OPEN SPACE, GREEN SPACE OR PERVIOUS AREAS ON COMMERCIAL AND MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT. AGAIN, KIND OF ADDRESSING THE BUILDING HEIGHT, MASSING AND OPEN SPACE KIND OF CONCERNS AND MAYBE NOT BUILDING HEIGHT SO MUCH BECAUSE FOR COMMERCIAL AND MIXED USE, YOU DO KIND OF YOU'RE WITHIN YOUR CHARTER FOR THOSE DEVELOPMENTS FOR SIX, THREE, TWO FOR MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENTS, THERE'S A RECOMMENDATION HERE TO EVALUATE MAXIMUM LOT COVERAGE, MINIMUM YARDS AND SETBACKS AND HEIGHTS BECAUSE THAT CHARTER HEIGHT DOES NOT APPLY TO MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT. SO THAT'S WHERE YOU'RE GETTING SOME OF THE HIGHER HEIGHT BUILDINGS WITHIN THE COMMUNITY AS REFERENCED THERE. AND THEN THREE THREE IS LOOKING AT SINGLE FAMILY HOMES AND THE IDEA OF POTENTIALLY REQUIRING A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE OF A SITE TO MAINTAIN OPEN SPACE, GREEN SPACE OR PERVIOUS SURFACE AREAS, POTENTIALLY IMPLEMENTING LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS. SO GOT FEEDBACK THAT PEOPLE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE FACT THAT NEW HOMES BEING BUILT ARE KIND OF MAXIMIZING THE HARDSCAPE TO THE EDGES OF THE PROPERTY, AND REALLY KIND OF REDUCING AND OPEN SPACE TREES, LANDSCAPING, VEGETATION ON THE PROPERTY. AND SO THAT IS THE OTHER IDEA HERE. SO, SO THOSE ARE SOME OF THE KEY THINGS. NOW, I ALSO WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW WE, WE MADE SOME KIND OF STRUCTURAL CHANGES IN TERMS OF HOW THE FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORIES ARE SET OUT WITHIN THE CHAPTER. AND IF YOU GO, I'LL JUST USE AS AN EXAMPLE PAGE. I THINK IT'S 40. 
          WHICH ONE WAS THE ONE I WAS GOING TO USE? 47 I THINK. YEAH. RESIDENTIAL MEDIUM DENSITY ON PAGE 47. SO THE IDEA HERE, THIS IS SOMETHING WE LIKE TO ENCOURAGE A LOT OF OUR CLIENTS TO DO IS TO HAVE FOR EACH OF THE LAND USE CATEGORIES ON YOUR FUTURE LAND USE MAP TO HAVE A PAGE OR A SET OF PAGES. IF YOU NEED MORE THAN ONE. THAT REALLY IDENTIFIES ALL OF THE KIND OF POLICY OBJECTIVES AND KIND OF KEY CRITERIA AND INFORMATION RELATIVE TO THAT LAND USE CATEGORY, SO THAT IT'S KIND OF ALL IN ONE PLACE. OBVIOUSLY, THERE'S A LOT OF POLICIES AND ACTIONS IN THIS PLAN THAT ARE STILL GOING TO BE AN INFLUENCER, BUT ANYTHING THAT'S UNIQUE TO THAT LAND USE CLASSIFICATION, WE RECOMMEND INCLUDING KIND OF IN ONE PLACE, IF THAT MAKES SENSE, OR AT LEAST CROSS-REFERENCING TO ANOTHER ELEMENT IF NECESSARY. SO HERE, THE WAY THIS IS LAID OUT, THERE'S A DESCRIPTION THAT PROVIDES KIND OF AN OVERVIEW OF THIS LAND USE CATEGORY. THERE'S INTENT THERE ABOUT THE TYPES OF USES IN PARTICULAR THAT SHOULD BE THERE AND KIND OF HOW THIS AREA MIGHT FUNCTION. THERE'S INFORMATION ABOUT APPLICABLE ZONING DISTRICTS AND DESIGNS SO THAT YOU CAN KNOW KIND OF WHICH ZONING DISTRICTS ARE APPROPRIATE FOR THIS LAND USE CATEGORY. IT ALSO EXPRESSES WHETHER OR NOT THE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD PROCESS APPLIES WITHIN THESE AREAS AS WELL, BECAUSE THERE ARE CERTAIN AREAS WHERE CERTAIN TYPES OF DEVELOPMENTS WHERE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD PROCESS APPLIES AND CERTAIN AREAS WHERE IT DOESN'T, THEN WE DEFINE PRIMARY AND SECONDARY USES, AND THEN WHAT WE CALL THE BUILDING BLOCKS. AND THOSE ARE SOME CORE PIECES THAT AGAIN, KIND OF CAME OUT OF THIS PROCESS THAT WE THINK ARE IMPORTANT BUILDING HEIGHT, OPEN SPACE AND DENSITY INTENSITY AND HELPING, AGAIN, TO FRAME WHAT THE INTENT OF THAT CATEGORY IS. AND THEN THE LAST THING IS JUST SOME. WE'LL HAVE SOME GRAPHIC EXAMPLES OF PATTERN. IT COULD BE AN AERIAL, COULD BE A FIGURE GROUND DRAWING AND THEN CHARACTER, WHICH MIGHT BE KIND OF LIKE A STREET SCAPE. PHOTO OF WHAT DEVELOPMENT IN THIS LAND USE CATEGORY LOOKS LIKE. I DO WANT TO COME BACK TO BUILDING HEIGHT, BECAUSE I THINK WE'VE GOT SOME FURTHER THINKING ON HOW WE MIGHT WANT TO GO ABOUT ADDRESSING THAT IN HERE. I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION ON THIS. SO IS THIS JUST NONEXISTENT IN THE CURRENT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN? SO MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE DESCRIPTION AND INTENT IS CARRIED FORWARD, AS YOU CAN SEE A STRIPE CHANGE ON THERE. AND THEN SOME OF THESE THINGS, I THINK THE PRIMARY SECONDARY USES AND THE BUILDING BLOCKS IN PARTICULAR ARE KIND OF NEW, WITH THE CAVEAT THAT THE DENSITY INTENSITY IS CARRIED FORWARD FROM A PREVIOUS TABLE. WE'LL MAKE THAT MORE CLEAR IN THE NEXT VERSION, KIND OF WHAT 
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THE RED LINE IS FOR THIS. OKAY. AND THEN OUR LAST BULLET HERE, ADVANCEMENTS TO DOCUMENT AND PRESERVE ICONIC AND HISTORIC BUILT ASSETS AND PLACES. SO THERE'S A PARTICULAR OBJECTIVE THAT LOOKS AT THAT. AND WE HAVE SOME NEW LANGUAGE KIND OF TO THE POINT THAT WE WERE WE WERE JUST HAVING THE DISCUSSION ABOUT WITH RESPECT TO KIND OF PRESERVATION OF IMPORTANT PLACES. SO POLICY 6.5 ON PAGE 23, PROTECT HISTORICALLY AND ARCHITECTURALLY SIGNIFICANT RESOURCES. SOME OF THIS IS THAT FIRST ACTION WAS A HOUSING POLICY, PREVIOUSLY HOUSING POLICY 5.2. SO THAT GOT FORWARDED IN HERE. BUT WITH SOME ADDITIONAL LANGUAGE ADDED THERE, BUT ALSO SOME NEW ACTIONS TO THINK ABOUT. ONE DOCUMENTING WHAT ARE YOUR HISTORIC RESOURCES. SO THERE'S KIND OF A CLEAR AND ACCURATE DOCUMENTATION OF WHAT THOSE RESOURCES ARE OVER TIME. AND THEN RECOMMENDATION ABOUT RECOGNITION PROGRAMS TO FOR CITYWIDE PRESERVATION EFFORTS AND LISTS SOME PARTICULAR AREAS TO CONSIDER DOING THAT. AND THEN OBVIOUSLY SUPPORTING REDEVELOPMENT OF THE PIER. IT GOES ON THE NEXT PAGE TO INCORPORATE SOME ADDITIONAL ACTIONS THAT WERE FORMER POLICIES AND A FEW NEW ONES AS WELL, THAT SPEAK TO PUBLIC ART AND SOME OTHER COMPONENTS. HERE AGAIN, THIS IS YOU'LL SEE SOME RESILIENCY LANGUAGE FOLDED IN AS WELL, BECAUSE WHEN WE TALK ABOUT HISTORIC PRESERVATION, WE DO WANT TO THINK ABOUT THE RESILIENCY IMPACTS THAT ARE GOING TO BE HAVE TO BE FACED WITH THESE PROPERTIES AS WELL. SO IF WE YEAH, DEPENDING ON HOW WE WANT TO KIND OF LAND ON HISTORIC RESOURCES AND HISTORIC PRESERVATION, YOU KNOW, THIS MAY OR MAY NOT BE CHANGING, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'LL KIND OF BE THINKING ABOUT BASED ON THE COMMENTS THAT YOU PROVIDED EARLIER. AND THAT IS I'LL STOP THERE BEFORE WE JUMP OVER TO HOUSING. SO HAPPY TO TAKE YOUR QUESTIONS. COMMENTS. I'M LOOKING AT NOW I'M LOOKING AT 6.31. YOU'RE TALKING PAGE 22. 
          WE TALK ABOUT COMMERCIAL MIXED USE DEVELOPMENTS EVALUATING THINGS LIKE SETBACKS. I THINK A COMMON ISSUE THAT'S RAISED COUNTLESS TIMES WHEN CITY PEOPLE HAVE PEOPLE HAVE COME BEFORE THE CITY WITH THINGS LIKE NOISE ISSUES RELATING, ESPECIALLY WITH THE MIXED USE AND RESIDENTIAL COMING TOGETHER. MAYBE SOMETHING SHOULD BE INCORPORATED AT THIS AT THIS POINT TO BE NOT SO MUCH NOISE MITIGATION, BUT LITERALLY THE EFFECT OF NOISE THAT COULD BE CONTRIBUTED BY A MIXED USE. GOING OVER THE THE THE BUILDINGS AND THE YOU REFER TO VARIOUS DIFFERENT TYPES OF MAP. I'M GOING TO AGAIN, I'M JUST GOING TO THROW. THE OLD THING THAT I KEEP GOING ON ABOUT IS USING THE LIKES OF AR TO ACTUALLY SIMULATE MAPS THAT WE HAVE. WE HAVE SOME AROUND THE CITY. WE HAVE SOME WHAT I WOULD CALL THE CARTOON MAP SHOWING THE, THE NAPLES BAY, THIS, THIS, YOU KNOW, THE PIER HISTORIC ITEMS, I THINK THAT COULD BE BUILT UPON AND LET'S SAY GOT A GENERAL ONE THAT COULD BE PUT UP ON THE PIER, COULD BE PUT UP AT VARIOUS NODES, AND THAT COULD EASILY BE JUST INCORPORATING A LITTLE BIT OF AR. AUGMENTED REALITY COULD EASILY BECOME ONTO AN APP AND MAKE IT MORE USABLE TO EXTEND FROM THAT, BY INCORPORATING THINGS LIKE TWO SOFTWARES, REVIT OR TEKLA FROM AUTODESK AUTOCAD. AND THESE COULD ALL BE INCORPORATED FURTHER. I HAD PATCHED THINGS OVER, BUT WITH A SIMPLE SCAN OF THE CITY FROM EXISTING GOOGLE SOURCES AND OR I LINKED TO DRONE, YOU CAN QUICKLY SCAN EXISTING STRUCTURES THAT WOULD ALSO INCLUDE TREES VEGETATION, WHICH MAY BE KEY TO OTHER PEOPLE TO MAKE SURE WE'RE SAFEGUARDING THAT ALL THIS LOT COULD BE GENERATED INTO A MAP THAT CAN BE INSTANTLY UPDATED AT VERY LOW COST. FROM FREE SOFTWARE. 
          IT'S THE SAME SOFTWARE THAT GOOGLE USE TO DO THEIR MAPS AS WELL, SO THEY'RE ALL THE STUFF'S OUT THERE. IT'S NOT NEW. IT'S BUT IT'S VERY EFFECTIVE. AND IT WILL ALSO ENABLE YOU TO FIND OUT WHAT THE CITY CURRENTLY HAS IMPOSE ON THAT, WHAT THE CURRENTLY, THE CITY MAY HAVE APPROVED, BUT NOT YET BUILT OR CREATED. AND THEN WHAT COULD BE CONSIDERED FOR FUTURE THINGS? AND AS I'VE SPOKEN BEFORE, IT WOULD BE A VERY REFRESHING THING THAT WAY IF THE CITY WERE REACHING OUT TO DEVELOPERS TO ENCOURAGE THEM TO COME IN AND GIVE US WHATEVER THEME USE THEY WOULD LIKE ON A THING, RATHER THAN WAITING FOR DEVELOPERS TO COME BANGING ON 
          [04:00:02]
THE DOOR, YOU KNOW, PUT THE THE HORSE BEFORE THE CART RATHER THAN THE OTHER WAY AROUND. AND I THINK THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WOULD BE A GOOD VEHICLE TO CARRY THAT. AND BY DOING THE MULTI-DIMENSIONS VIEW OF THAT, YOU'LL KNOW WHAT IT MEANS FROM A VISUAL POINT OF VIEW, WHAT IT MEANS FROM RESOURCES, IMPACT ON TRAFFIC AND YADA, YADA. FROM MY PERSPECTIVE. AND THANK YOU FOR THIS. THIS IS REALLY, REALLY VERY USEFUL AT POLICY 6.3 AND 6.4 IN PARTICULAR, BUT BUT ELSEWHERE AS WELL. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS CONCEPT IN THE PAST. TODAY, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT EVALUATE, IDENTIFY, EVALUATE, EVALUATE, EVALUATE. BUT WE DON'T HAVE ANY SORT OF, YOU KNOW, TIMELINE OR ANY. AND SO THIS COULD JUST GO ON AS A ITEM TO EVALUATE AT SOME STAGE IN THE FUTURE. SO I'D LIKE TO SEE SOME SORT OF TIMING CONNECTED TO THIS IN BOTH 6.3 AND 6.4, PLEASE. THANK YOU. AND THE SAME MAY BE TRUE FOR 6.5. COULD I INTERRUPT THAT, MR. FOWLER? BECAUSE WE WERE TALKING BEFORE THE LAST SECTION WHERE WE WAS ON ABOUT MEASUREMENTS AT THE CITY AND ITS PERFORMANCE. ALL THOSE THINGS COULD BE CAUGHT IN THAT SECTION BY HAVING A NAMED BODY, YOU KNOW, B, A DEPARTMENT WHOSE JOB IT WOULD BE TO SWEEP THROUGH ALL THIS, YOU KNOW, THROUGH EVERY SECTION AND TO GIVE OUR OWN INTERIOR FEEDBACK AS TO WHAT WE ARE ACHIEVING, NOT ACHIEVING. AND THEN THE, THE, LET'S SAY, THE MASTERS OF THOSE RESOURCES CAN SAY, YES, WE REALLY WE DIDN'T REALIZE WE WEREN'T DOING THAT. OH, YES, THAT'S A DELIBERATE THING. BUT AT LEAST WE'RE GOING THROUGH A CONSCIOUS EFFORT AND THEN NOTHING WILL ESCAPE. BECAUSE OTHERWISE, UNLESS WE CATCH EVERY SINGLE LINE, WHICH WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO, THERE'S GOING TO BE TOO MANY ESCAPE ROUTES. BUT IF WE HAVE THAT SECTION AT THE END, I FORGOT THE CORRECT TERMINOLOGY FOR THE SECTION, THE CONCURRENCY AT THE END, BUILDING TWO THERE WHERE THERE IS AN EVALUATION OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WHICH IS THEN FED BACK ON QUARTERLY ANNUALLY TO THE CITY, THEN YOU'RE CAPTURING ALL THESE POTENTIAL FAILINGS OR SUCCESSES IN A SINGLE AREA. AND EXACTLY 100%. AND THE THE THING I WAS THINKING AND WAS GOING TO BRING UP AT THE END, BUT MAYBE NOW'S A GOOD TIME, IS AFTER WE'RE DONE WITH THE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, IT'D BE WONDERFUL TO HAVE SOME SORT OF A CHECKLIST OR CALENDAR OR CHECKLIST CALENDAR THAT WOULD THEN LEAD US THROUGH EVERYTHING THAT NEEDED TO BE DONE ON A PERIODIC BASIS AND WHEN AND SO FORTH. AND IT MAY BE VERY EASY FOR IT TO BE DONE IN CONNECTION WITH THE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. BUT OTHERWISE, YOU KNOW, WITH PLANNING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, AND IT COULD BE INCORPORATED INTO OUR AGENDAS IN THE FUTURE WHERE IT SAYS IT'S TIME FOR US TO LOOK AT THIS. LET'S CONSIDER THAT THAT SORT OF THING. BUT BUT YOU'RE RIGHT. IF WE TRY TO KEEP IN MIND OURSELVES ALL OF THE THINGS THAT NEED TO BE DONE PERIODICALLY, WE'LL NEVER GET IT ALL DONE. ONE SUGGESTION WOULD BE, WELL, FIRST OF ALL, UNDERSTANDING THAT FROM YEAR TO YEAR THINGS CHANGE AND FUNDING ALL KINDS OF THINGS CHANGE. SO TO PUT A HARD DATE IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN MIGHT BE PROBLEMATIC. HOWEVER, YOU COULD, YOU COULD PUT A POLICY OR SOMETHING IN THERE THAT SAYS THAT THE CITY WILL ADOPT AN IMPLEMENTATION STRATEGY, WHICH WOULD BE AN ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESS, AND IDENTIFYING ALL THE POLICIES AND TRYING TO PUT TOGETHER, MUCH LIKE THE TIMELINE THAT YOU SAW FOR THIS PROJECT, YOU KNOW, SOME KIND OF PROJECT MANAGEMENT ON, ON THE POLICIES THAT THAT WAY IT'S NOT IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND WOULDN'T REQUIRE A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT IF THINGS CHANGE AND THEY DO CHANGE QUITE A BIT, IT'S ALMOST LIKE A C I P FOR THE COMP PLAN ACTIONS. THINKING ABOUT ALL THE INVENTORY OF THINGS YOU WANT TO ACCOMPLISH AND KIND OF SCHEDULING OUT WHEN YOU MIGHT DO THAT BASED ON RESOURCES AVAILABLE ON THE, IN MY WORK DEALING WITH BUSINESSES WHICH ARE NOT DOING WHAT THEY WANTED. SO THE STAKEHOLDERS WANTED TO DO, THERE IS A VERY SIMPLE FORMAT OF A P O R, WHICH IS PLAN, ACT, OBSERVE, REFLECT, OR REFINE. AND IT'S A THREE CYCLE PROCESS. IT'S EXTREMELY SIMPLE. IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE ENTANGLING OR STRESSFUL. IT'S PRETTY CLEAR PRETTY FAST. AND IT'S A KNOWN SYSTEM. BUT PLAN, ACT OBSERVED, REFLECT OR REFINE DEPENDING ON YOUR TERMINOLOGY IS A VERY SIMPLE FIX FOR HAVING 
          [04:05:06]
AN EVALUATION WITHOUT MAKING IT TOO STATISTICALLY COMPLICATED. AND I TAKE YOUR POINT, ANDREW, AND I HAVE NO OBJECTION TO THAT. BUT WE ALSO THEN WOULD BE AT THE CITY COUNCIL'S MERCY IN TERMS OF WHEN THOSE THOSE THINGS WOULD BE CALENDARED OR, YOU KNOW, THE SCHEDULE FOR IT ALL. AND I WAS THINKING BACK TO THE HOTEL DISCUSSION WE HAD EARLIER IN 1989, THE CITY HAD PROMISED THAT IT WAS GOING TO TAKE AN ACTION, AND THEN WE SAW THAT IT WAS DONE IN 2017. AND, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE CIRCUMSTANCES SURROUNDING THAT ARE, BUT I THINK THAT WE NEED TO ACT EXPEDITIOUSLY. AND TO THE EXTENT THAT WE CAN PUT THINGS IN OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT DOESN'T LET THE SCHEDULING BE POSTPONED FOR 24 MONTHS, I THINK WE JUST HAVE TO DO THAT TO THE EXTENT THAT WE CAN ENFORCE IT. I THINK THE LAST WORDS WERE THE CRITICAL ONES. TO THE EXTENT WE CAN ENFORCE IT. WHAT WE CAN DO IS. WE GOT TO TRUST YOUR JUDGMENT ON HOW TO PUT THAT TOGETHER. OKAY. NEXT, ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON FUTURE LAND USE? OKAY, SO HOUSING ELEMENT, THIS IS AN ELEMENT THAT'S PREPARED IN COORDINATION WITH COLLIER COUNTY. YOU'LL NOTICE THROUGH THIS ELEMENT EXCUSE ME, THERE ARE MAY I STOP YOU? I APOLOGIZE JUST ONE THING. ON OBJECTIVE SEVEN, THE NAPLES AIRPORT. IN THE FUTURE. LAND USE. YES. AND I'M SORRY, IT'S PAGE 27. ALL I WANTED TO SAY ABOUT THAT IS THE AIRPORT MAY DRAMATICALLY CHANGE BETWEEN NOW AND THE 13TH OF THIS MONTH. AND SO I THINK IT'S, YOU KNOW, PROPER, PROBABLY JUST TO LEAVE THIS ALONE UNTIL WE FIND OUT WHAT TALLAHASSEE WANTS TO DO WITH THE MANAGEMENT OF THE AIRPORT. YEAH. SO JUST TALKING ABOUT EARLIER, OTHER THINGS WE'RE TRACKING. YEP, YEP. 
          OKAY. NO GOOD. GOOD POINT. HOUSING ELEMENT. THIS ELEMENT IS PREPARED IN COORDINATION WITH COLLIER COUNTY. THERE ARE SPECIFIC POLICIES THAT ARE FOR THE CITY, FOR THE COUNTY AND THEIR JOINT POLICIES FOR BOTH CITY AND COUNTY THAT ARE INCORPORATED. THE CITY'S LATEST UPDATES WERE IN 2024. WHEN YOU DID THAT RECENT UPDATE. I THINK THE CRITICAL PIECE ON THIS IS THAT THIS ELEMENT REALLY NEEDS TO BE A. ANY ADJUSTMENTS TO THIS ELEMENT NEED TO BE IN COORDINATION WITH THE COUNTY. GIVEN THE NATURE OF WHAT'S INCLUDED HERE, THE COUNTY HAS IMPLEMENTED SOME AFFORDABILITY INITIATIVES IN RECENT YEARS. THEY LAST UPDATED THEIR HOUSING ELEMENT IN 2013. SO IT'S BEEN SOME TIME SINCE THEY'VE LOOKED AT THEIRS. AND I SHOULD SAY, YOU KNOW, PARTICULARLY FOR THOSE THAT ARE MAYBE LISTENING OR SHARE IN THE AUDIENCE TODAY, THE HOUSING ELEMENT IS NOT REALLY FOCUSED ON KIND OF CHARACTER PROTECTION OR THE DESIGN OF HOUSING. IT'S MORE FOCUSED ON THE TYPES OF HOUSING THAT'S PROVIDED, PROGRAMS TO SUPPORT MAINTENANCE OF EXISTING HOUSING, THINKING ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING, IT'S VERY DIFFERENT THAN KIND OF DESIGN AND CHARACTER FOCUS, WHICH IS INCORPORATED WITHIN THE FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT. SO WE HAVE NOT RECOMMENDED ANY DIRECT REVISIONS TO THIS ELEMENT. 
          GIVEN WHAT I JUST SAID, OTHER THAN FORMATTING IT INTO THE NEW DESIGN TEMPLATE. THOSE, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY OPEN FOR DISCUSSION. WE GLAD TO TO HEAR YOUR THOUGHTS ON THIS. THIS IS JUST SOMETHING THAT THERE WOULD NEED TO BE SOME KIND OF COORDINATION WITH THE COUNTY MOVING FORWARD IF CHANGES WERE MADE, I GUESS I HAVE A CONCERN OR I A REAL CONCERN THAT. 
          NAPLES HASN'T DONE A CREDIBLE JOB IN DEALING WITH WORKFORCE HOUSING. AND I THINK IT'S TIME WE DID. I THINK IN COORDINATION WITH THE COUNTY MAKES SENSE, BECAUSE WE ACTUALLY DON'T HAVE ANY LAND IN THE CITY THAT WOULD DO THAT, WHICH IN MY SIMPLISTIC WAY OF THINKING, MEANS THAT YOU HAVE TO ESTABLISH A FUND. AND I THINK THERE SHOULD BE A DEVELOPER'S FEE TO PROVIDE A PERCENTAGE OF HOUSING FOR THE PEOPLE THAT WILL BE EMPLOYED BY THAT DEVELOPMENT. THAT'S JUST MY SUGGESTION. BUT. I THINK IT'S LONG OVERDUE. HISTORICALLY SPEAKING, MY RECOLLECTION IS THE COUNTY USED TO HAVE A FUND TILL THEY GAVE IT AWAY ABOUT TEN YEARS AGO, BECAUSE THEY 
          [04:10:01]
WEREN'T USING IT. I HOPE THE COUNTY FEELS TO ME LIKE THE COUNTY IS GETTING MORE ON BOARD WITH WORKFORCE HOUSING, AND I THINK NAPLES SHOULD BE DOING ITS APPROPRIATE SHARE. AND I'M NOT LOOKING TO TAX OUR EXISTING RESIDENTS. BUT AS NEW INDUSTRY RENOVATIONS COME IN, THAT WILL REQUIRE EMPLOYEES, I THINK IT'S A LESS COUNT. I THINK OUT OF HOWEVER NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES, WHICH I THINK IS MORE THAN 200 IN THE CITY. ONE LIVED IN THE CITY AND I THINK THEY WERE SUBSIDIZED. SO I THINK PEOPLE HAVE TO GET PAST THEIR WORRY ABOUT LOW INCOME. THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE VERY PEOPLE THAT ALLOW NAPLES TO FUNCTION AS THE. AND HAVE THE COMMUNITY CHARACTER THAT IT NOW HAS. MR. CHAIR, JUST TO BE CLEAR. SO YOU'RE YOU'RE REFERRING TO LIKE AN IN LIEU OF A PAYMENT INTO A TRUST FUND. CORRECT. OKAY. THEY COULD BUILD SOMETHING TOO IF THEY WANT TO, BUT I THINK THEY'RE GOING TO TAKE IT IN LIEU OF THAT VERY POINT. MR. CHAIRMAN, I AGREE, AND I'M LOOKING AT OBJECTIVE ONE ON PAGE SIX, THE TITLE STARTS TO READ PROVIDE AFFORDABLE HOUSING. I'D LIKE ONE WORD PUT STRAIGHT AFTER THAT. WELL, WELL, A COUPLE WORDS, BUT PROVIDE AFFORDABLE HOUSING TARGETS TO SUPPORT CURRENT AND FUTURE COMMUNITY NEEDS. AND I'D ALSO LIKE SOME DEFINITIONS OR REFINEMENT OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING, WORKFORCE HOUSING AND WORKFORCE HOUSING TWO DIFFERENT CATEGORIES. AND I'D ALSO LIKE TO SEE UPON THE OBJECTIVES OR TARGETS ARE PHILANTHROPY INCENTIVES THAT THE CITY PUT IN PLACE FOR PEOPLE TO HELP GET THOSE TARGETS ACHIEVED. I BELIEVE THAT IF THE CITY OPENS ITS ARMS IN A IN A IN A WAY THAT'S GIVEN CREDIBILITY OR CREDENCE TO INDIVIDUALS, I THINK YOU COULD HAVE MORE SUPPORT, FINANCIAL SUPPORT FROM PEOPLE WISHING TO BE UPSTANDING IN THEIR COMMUNITY. AND I THINK THAT AFFORDABLE HOUSING, WORKFORCE HOUSING WOULD BE VERY ADMIRABLE, THAT I THINK PEOPLE HAVE DEEP POCKETS OR NARROW POCKETS COULD ACTUALLY PARTICIPATE IN FOR THE BETTERMENT OF THE CITY. 
          HISTORICALLY, NAPLES HAS BEEN ONE OF THE MOST GENEROUS CITIES IN THE UNITED STATES AND SUPPORTING UNDERSERVED PEOPLE, IMPROVING EDUCATION. AND I KNOW THE COMMUNITY FOUNDATION, I THINK HAS A FUND, AND MAYBE WE COULD DO MORE WITH THEM TO TO MOVE FORWARD. BUT I THINK IT WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING. AND I THINK IT COULD BE INCORPORATED OR INCENTIVIZED WITHIN THIS DOCUMENT WITHOUT OBLIGATION, LET'S SAY, OF CITY RESOURCES OTHER THAN TO DRAW OUR ATTENTION, THAT IT'S THAT IT IS AN INTENTION OF THE CITY TO TRY AND OPEN OUR ARMS TO FUNDING AND THE NEEDS OF PEOPLE LESS FORTUNATE. I MEAN, THE PERFECT EXAMPLE IS WE JUST APPROVED A HOTEL THAT'S GOING TO EMPLOY HOW MANY PEOPLE, WHERE ARE THEY GOING TO WORK? WHERE ARE THE WORKERS GOING TO COME FROM? LEE COUNTY, I WILL ADD. WE'VE HAD THE LIVE LOCAL ACT WAS PASSED, AND SO WE'VE HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSIONS AT THE, YOU KNOW, IN OUR DEPARTMENT AND WITH POTENTIAL DEVELOPERS. I THINK IT'S NOT THE COST. IT'S NOT THE IT'S NOT THAT PEOPLE AREN'T WILLING TO SPEND THE MONEY. WE HAVE VERY, VERY STRICT DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS IN THIS COMMUNITY THAT REALLY DON'T ALLOW FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING. THAT'S WHY I SAID THAT'S THE ISSUE. YEAH, WE HAVE TO GET THE MONEY FOR IT. BUT WE DO HAVE CAVEATS. THE LIKES OF REDISTRICTING, LIKE THE NCH, HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF PIERCE DISTRICT. SO THAT AND I GUESS THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING IS, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT WE WANT TO ENCOURAGE AFFORDABLE HOUSING. JUST REMEMBER THE COMP PLAN POLICIES THEN LAY INTO LAND USE CODE REGULATIONS. SO HOW ARE WE WOULD WE HAVE MET? WE WOULD THEN HAVE TO AMEND OUR CODE TO ALLOW FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING. CURRENTLY WE HAVE VERY TIGHT LOT COVERAGE BUILDING HEIGHT PARKING. DON'T FORGET THE. OR THEY CAN PAY A. OR THEY CAN PAY. AND I THINK THERE'S NOT A. 90% OF THEM ARE 99, 44, 100%. UNLESS YOU'RE GOING TO GIVE THEM FREE LAND OR GOING TO TAKE THAT OPTION. AND AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, ANYWHERE IN COLLIER COUNTY WOULD SATISFY THE NEED. OKAY, BUT I'M TALKING MONEY AND NOBODY LIKES TO HEAR TAXES OR MONEY, BUT THAT'S WHAT IT'S GOING TO TAKE TO GET IT DONE. AND IT'S GOING TO BE IF WE COULD BRING OUR WORKFORCE WITHIN TEN MILES OF OUR CITY BOUNDARIES, IT WOULD BE A MAJOR STEP FORWARD. THERE ARE OTHER COMMUNITIES WE'VE WORKED WITH ISLA MORADA, MONROE COUNTY, THAT HAVE ESTABLISHED. I THINK 
          [04:15:05]
IT'D BE GREAT TO BRING THOSE EXAMPLES FORWARD. I'M SURE THERE ARE BEST PRACTICES THAT WE'RE NOT AWARE OF. YEAH, IT'S JUST TIME, FOLKS. ALL RIGHT. NEXT. I THINK WE'RE DONE. RIGHT. 
          THAT'S IT. OH MY GOD. THOSE ARE ALL THE ELEMENTS. UNLESS YEAH, UNLESS YOU WANT TO CREATE A NEW ONE. SOMEBODY NEEDS TO CANCEL OUR DINNER. THAT'S ME. I WAS COUNTING ON YOU TO KEEP ME HERE FOR DINNER. OR I CAN DO NEXT STEPS HOWEVER YOU WANT TO DO IT. MORE WORK TO BE DONE. SO NEXT, WE'LL WRAP UP BY JUST GIVING YOU TWO BRIEF CLOSING STATEMENTS JUST TO LET YOU KNOW WE WE KNOW WE OWE YOU MORE WORK. THE INTRODUCTION OF THE WHOLE DOCUMENT WILL BE FLESHED OUT AND WE'LL WE'LL GET THAT UPDATED. EACH INTRODUCTION SECTION NEEDS OUR EXTRA SCRUTINY AND WE'LL WORK ON THAT. EVERYTHING WE'VE TALKED ABOUT TODAY, WE'VE BEEN DOCUMENTING, AND WE'LL DO EVERYTHING WE CAN IN OUR POWER TO COORDINATE WITH STAFF AND MAKE SURE WE INCORPORATE WHAT WE CAN. AND THEN THOSE REFINEMENTS, YOU KNOW, THE THE POINTS FROM YOUR EARLIER DIRECTION, MR. FOWLER, LIKE WE WE AREN'T GOING TO FORGET THAT WE NEED TO, YOU KNOW, THEN DO SOME SOME WORDSMITHING AND SOME WHAT WE'RE CALLING THE SYMBOLOGY TO, TO KIND OF CREATE VISUAL CUES THAT RELATE THE WORDS ON THE PAGE TO THE VISION THEMES. SO THAT TAKES US TO THESE NEXT STEPS. WE WILL BE GETTING AN UPDATED DRAFT PREPARED TO SHOW CITY COUNCIL AGAIN MORE OF AN IN-PROGRESS VERSION. ON APRIL 13TH, A CITY COUNCIL WORKSHOP THAT WILL BE PUBLICLY AVAILABLE, AND THEN YOU ALL WILL RECEIVE THE FULL FINAL VERSION OF THIS COMP PLAN THE WEEK BEFORE YOUR MAY 13TH MEETING. AND AT THAT MEETING, WE'LL BE ASKING YOU TO AGREE TO TRANSMIT THE DOCUMENT TO CITY COUNCIL FOR REVIEW. WHO WILL WILL ASK TO TRANSMIT THE DOCUMENT TO THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE, THE STATE OF FLORIDA FOR REVIEW. IT ALL CYCLES BACK AFTER STATE REVIEW, WHICH WE ASSUME WOULD OCCUR DURING THE SUMMER. AND WE ANTICIPATE, YOU KNOW, REACTING TO ANY STATE COMMENTS WE GET AND RETURNING TO CITY COUNCIL WITH THE FINAL ADOPTION PACKAGE AT THE END OF THE YEAR. OUR WEBSITE KEEPS DOCUMENTS UP TO DATE SO THE PUBLIC AND ANYONE CAN GO TO NAPLES. W W W DOT NAPLES 2045.COM. YOU SEE DOCUMENTATION, THE THINGS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT TODAY AND ANY OPPORTUNITY TO COMMENT IS ON THERE AS WELL. 
          OKAY. ARE YOU SORRY? EXCUSE ME, I HAVE ONE QUESTION FOR YOU. WHEN WE STARTED THIS PROCESS, I ASKED, ARE YOU AND YOUR COLLEAGUES, HOW WOULD YOU DEFINE SUCCESS OF THE REACH OUT SESSIONS? AND I NOTE FROM THE NUMBERS YOU JUST GAVE US THAT WE HAD PROBABLY LESS THAN 1% OF THE RESIDENTS WHO ATTENDED. IS THAT SUCCESS? IS THAT APATHY? YEAH, WE WERE WE WERE WE, WE COMPARED TO THE LEVEL OF ENGAGEMENT FROM THE VISION EFFORT. THAT WAS THE 2018 TIME FRAME. AND THE 1 TO 2% IS A TYPICAL PERCENT PARTICIPATION. ARE YOUR COHORTS TO THE NORTH, THE VILLAGE OF ESTERO, WHICH IS A NEWLY, I SAY NEWLY, IT'S BEEN TEN YEARS OR SO AND INCORPORATED CITY. SO THERE'S A LOT OF ENGAGED CITIZENRY THERE BECAUSE THEY CHOSE. THEY VOTED. 
          60% OF THEM VOTED TO INCORPORATE. THEY ARE DOING A. LET'S LOOK FORWARD AND PLAN OUR FUTURE EXERCISE RIGHT NOW. AND I'M JUST ON THE MAILING LIST OF THAT. AND AN EMAIL CAME OUT TWO WEEKS AGO THAT SAID, WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO GET 800 RESPONDENTS. PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE RESPOND 800 OUT OF A POPULATION THAT'S DOUBLE THE CITY OF NAPLES. SO WE GOT OVER NINE. WE GOT CLOSE TO A THOUSAND DIGITAL PARTICIPANTS IN OUR QUESTIONNAIRES. SO AS A COMPARISON TO TRENDS IN OUR COMMUNITIES, IN A SIMILAR COMMUNITY TO THE NORTH OF US, WE'VE HIT EXPECTATIONS. SO WHEN YOU'RE IN FRONT OF US IN 2045, WHEN WE'RE DOING OUR 2065 
          [04:20:04]
PROCESS, HOW WOULD YOU DO THIS DIFFERENTLY? WELL, IF AT ALL, I KNOW, YEAH, I, I BELIEVED IN THE APPROACH FOR THIS. I BELIEVED THAT HIGH SEASON IS WHEN YOU HAVE THE MOST, YOU KNOW, MOST POPULATION HERE. AND I BELIEVED THE BIG PUSH WAS MEANINGFUL IN FEBRUARY WHERE 14,000 MAILERS WENT OUT. IS THAT NUMBER? YEAH. WE SENT A MAILER TO EVERY ADDRESS IN THE CITY OF NAPLES. WE UPDATED ALMOST DAILY THROUGH PUSHES THROUGH OUR COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT. I MEAN, THE PUBLIC OUTREACH ON ON OUR END WAS HIGHER THAN FOR ANY OTHER, YOU KNOW, PROCESS THAT WE'VE EVER HAD. IT'S NOT A REFLECTION, BUT WHAT COULD WE DO? IT'S JUST YOU CAN'T FORCE PEOPLE TO PARTICIPATE. YOU KNOW, YOU CAN REMIND THEM, YOU CAN INVITE THEM, YOU CAN PUT THE WE PUT THE WORD OUT THERE. WE ENCOURAGE HOA'S. WE'RE SENDING THEM OUT TO THEIR OWN RESIDENTS. I MEAN, THE THE EFFORT WAS CERTAINLY NOT LACKING ON THE PART OF ANYONE. I'M DISAPPOINTED LIKE I SO OFTEN AM WHEN I SIT HERE AND THERE'S VIRTUALLY NOBODY FROM THE COMMUNITY. OKAY. WE HAD PEOPLE COME TO SPEAK TODAY, BUT WE SEEM TO HAVE APATHY. AND YET THEY ARE VERY, VERY VOCAL WHEN WE BUILD, WHEN SOMETHING IS BUILT. I'VE LOST IT NOW IN MY BACKYARD. YEAH. AND WE WERE SURPRISED THE ENGAGEMENT IN FEBRUARY WASN'T. YEAH. YOU KNOW, COMPARED TO THE ENGAGEMENT IN NOVEMBER, IT MIGHT HAVE ACTUALLY BEEN HIGHER AT THE NOVEMBER SESSIONS IN NOVEMBER. NOVEMBER WAS SO YEAH, YOU KNOW, YEAH, MAYBE THE WEATHER WASN'T SO GOOD. DO YOUR BEST. YEAH. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          THANK YOU, THANK YOU. AND ON THE POINT OF PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT, YOU KNOW, THE COALITION OF HOAS HAD THAT LITTLE SUBMISSION THAT WE SAW THIS MORNING. AND THEN OLD NAPLES ASSOCIATION. DID ONE DO THOSE GO TO THE CONSULTANTS AS WELL? YES WE DO. YEAH. OKAY. COOL. JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE. 
          THANK YOU. OKAY. NEXT ON THE AGENDA IS TRAFFIC STUDY UPDATE. YES. AND BEFORE WE GO ON THAT, LIKE BRAVO TO THE CONSULTANTS AND FOR YOUR PRESENTATION TODAY AND YOUR WORK TO DATE. AND SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT. THANK YOU FOR ENDURING IT WITH US. WE APPRECIATE ALL THE 
          [9.A) Traffic Study Update from the Public Works Department. ]
FEEDBACK AND APPRECIATE YOU. PLEASURE. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, SO FOR THE TRAFFIC STUDY, I APOLOGIZE. WE DID NOT HAVE A MEMO IN TIME FOR PUBLICATION OF THIS MEETING, BUT I DID GET AN UPDATE. THE THE UPDATE I HAVE IS THAT THE NEXT STEPS FOR CITY COUNCIL IS TO REVIEW THE POLICY MATERIAL THAT WAS PROVIDED TO THEM, AND THEY ARE MEETING INDIVIDUALLY WITH STAFF TO DISCUSS THE CONCERNS AND FEEDBACK IN ADVANCE OF RETURNING BACK TO COUNCIL FOR A FUTURE WORKSHOP DISCUSSION. CITY STAFF HAS BEGUN THEIR. THEIR INDIVIDUAL MEETINGS WITH COUNCIL MEMBERS, AND WE DO HAVE NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS SO THAT THEY'RE COORDINATING WITH THAT. 
          THE TIMING OF THE NEXT UPDATE TO CITY COUNCIL IS ANTICIPATED TO BE IN APRIL DUE TO THE SCHEDULING OF THE FINAL MEETING'S INPUT RECEIVED FROM THE UPCOMING CITY COUNCIL MEETING. MEETING WILL BE INCORPORATED INTO POTENTIAL DRAFT ORDINANCES TO BE PRESENTED AT A FUTURE DATE, WHICH WILL COME BEFORE YOU, THE PLANNING ADVISORY BOARD FOR RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL BEFORE FORMAL ACTION IS TAKEN ON THE DOWNTOWN TRAFFIC STUDY AND ANY CHANGES RESULTING TO THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. AND I WAS PLEASED TO SEE THAT THE CONSULTANTS DID LISTEN TO US ABOUT WHEN THEY SHOULD BE DOING STUDIES, AND THAT IS A STEP FORWARD JUST IN AND OF ITSELF. SO THANK YOU. BEFORE PUBLIC COMMENT COMMENT. WE HAVE AT LEAST ONE OR MORE PEOPLE WHO MAY BE RETIRING. ANDREW, I KNOW THIS IS YOUR LAST MEETING. 
          ANYBODY ELSE'S LAST MEETING THAT THEY KNOW OF, I BELIEVE. OKAY. YEAH. WELL, I MIGHT VOTE ON THAT. WHO KNOWS WHAT'S WAITING FOR ME. OKAY. WELL, I WANT TO THANK ANDREW FOR HIS CONTRIBUTION, AND HE COULD ALWAYS BE RELIED UPON TO THINK OF SOMETHING THAT NOBODY ELSE HAD. SO I THINK THAT'S REALLY QUITE A SKILL. AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE AND HARD WORK. 
          THANK YOU ANDREW. ANY CORRESPONDENCE OR COMMUNICATIONS? NOT YET. NO 
          [11) Correspondence and Communication]
MOTION TO ADJOURN. NO NO NO NO NO. THREE POINTS. ARE YOU NOT LETTING ME DOWN, ANDREW. GOOD TO KEEP CONSISTENCY. ONE RECOMMENDATION. PAST RECOMMENDATION I PUT FORWARD WAS TO HAVE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND A TRAFFIC STUDY UPDATE ON EACH AGENDA AS AN AUTOMATIC THING. I'D LIKE TO I THINK IT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL TO ADD ONE MORE. AND THAT IS THE RESULTS OF PAB RECOMMENDATIONS THAT'S GONE BEFORE COUNCIL. IN OTHER WORDS, LET'S SAY TODAY WE RECOMMEND TO NOT TO DO THIS OR TO DO THIS OR TO DO THIS WITH SUCH A AN AD LIB, WHAT IS THE LATEST RESULT? THAT WAY WE CAN KEEP AN EYE ON ARE WE BEING EFFECTIVE OR DO WE NEED TO ALTER OR WE. DO YOU NEED TO ALTER THE RECOMMENDATIONS YOU'RE PUTTING FORWARD ALMOST A 
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SCORECARD AS TO WHETHER IT'S MAKE AN IMPROVEMENT? I THINK IT WOULD BE VERY BRIEF. IT WOULD BE MORE OF A ONE WAY THING, BUT I ALSO THINK IT WILL KEEP THE MEMBERS AWARE AND IN TUNE WITH CITY. IF NOT, WHY NOT? IF THEY FAIL TO, YOU MIGHT GET THE QUESTION, BUT NOT THE ANSWER. 
          BUT AT LEAST YOU'LL GET ONE NEXT. THE NEXT TWO. ONE'S IS I BELIEVE THERE IS A RECRUITMENT PROCESS GOING TO BE IS GOING TO GO AHEAD OR IS GOING AHEAD FOR THE VARIOUS TERMS OF PEOPLE WHO ARE COMING UP. AND I BELIEVE THAT'S BROKEN DOWN INTO TWO PARTS, WHICH DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE TO EITHER A POTENTIAL INTERVIEWED CANDIDATE OR THE TIME OF THE CITY COUNCIL. I BELIEVE THERE'S TWO LOTS OF INTERVIEWS AS OPPOSED TO, I RECOMMEND TO THE COUNCIL THAT THEY HAVE ONE SERIES OF INTERVIEWS TO SELECT THE REPLACEMENT FOR THE OPEN TERM OF COUNCILOR SCHULTZ, MY OPEN TERM AND THE ALTERNATE OPEN TERM. THEY SHOULD ALL BE BAGGED INTO ONE BASKET. THE WAY WHOEVER GETS THE HIGHEST SCORE GETS THE LONGER TERM, AND SO ON AND SO ON AND SO ON. THE WAY THEY'VE DONE IT CURRENTLY, I KNOW SOME INTERESTED MEMBERS ARE CONFUSED AS TO HAVE THEY GOT TO GO THROUGH TWO INTERVIEWS BECAUSE THERE'S AN INTERVIEW SET UP FOR SCHULTZ'S OPEN POSITION. AND TO ME, IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. AND THEN THE FINAL THING, WHICH SHOULD GO EXTREMELY CLOSE ON THE HEELS OF THE NEW MEMBERS, WERE VERY WE'RE VERY MUCH AT THE END RESULT OF CRITICAL WORK ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. WHOEVER IS SELECTED TO JOIN THE BOARD, ESPECIALLY IF THEY'VE NEVER SERVED BEFORE ON THE PAB, THE CITY SHOULD PUT AN INDUCTION, DETAILED INDUCTION BECAUSE OF THE. IRREGULAR SITUATION THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY IN, WE HAVE A TIGHT TIME TO FINISH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS SO THAT THEY CAN BE A FULLY WORKING PARTICIPANT AT THE PAB AND DO THE BEST JOB FOR THE CITY WITHOUT INDUCTION. I THINK ANY NEWCOMER IS GOING TO STRUGGLE TO BE SUCCESSFUL. CAN I JUST. MY EXCELLENT IDEA RENDERING THE THE AIRPORT, AS WE ALL MAY BE AWARE, HAD TWO NEW MEMBERS JOIN THE BOARD AND WHAT WAS DONE WAS A ALMOST. IT WAS JUST OVER LIKE TWO THIRDS OF A DAY ONBOARDING WHERE WE WENT THROUGH EVERYTHING FROM GOVERNANCE TO SUNSHINE LAWS TO WHATEVER. AND EVERYBODY ATTENDED NOT ONLY THE TWO NEW MEMBERS, BUT WE ALL ATTENDED. 
          DID YOU SAY ONBOARDING OR WATER BOARDING? I COULDN'T HEAR WHAT IT FELT LIKE WATER BOARDING AT THE END OF THE DAY, BUT I THINK A, A MEETING WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT WOULD BE EXTREMELY HELPFUL FOR THOSE PEOPLE JUST TO BE. HERE'S WHERE WE ARE AND HERE'S THE STATUS AND HERE'S YOUR HOMEWORK. YES. AND THEY'LL ALL DROP OUT. AND WITH RESPECT TO THE FIRST POINT ON OR. OH, SORRY. NOPE. YEP. FIRST, THE HOW PBS RECOMMENDATIONS TO CITY COUNCIL. SO THE CLERK'S OFFICE DOES PREPARE A WHAT ARE WE VOTING RECORD FOR? BUT IT'S COMPREHENSIVE, SO I CAN PROVIDE THAT. I CAN PUT THAT ON THE AGENDA AT EACH. BUT IT'S IT. I CAN'T GIVE YOU A. IF NOT, WHY AND HOW AND WHAT, I CAN JUST GIVE YOU A RECORD OF HOW THEY VOTED. OKAY. I CAN GIVE YOU A REPORT OF HOW THOSE ITEMS WERE. THE LAND USE ITEMS WERE VOTED ON, BUT THAT'S ABOUT THE RECORDING. IT'S ALL ON VIDEO. IF YOU WANT TO KNOW, YOU CAN WATCH IT. WATCH IT IN REAL TIME. 
          YOU CAN WATCH IT. BUT I DO THINK JUST THE SCORECARD COMING UP WOULD BE HELPFUL. I DO AM STILL A BELIEVER THAT WE ARE AN INDEPENDENT BODY, AND WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE EXERCISING OUR OWN INDEPENDENT JUDGMENT, BUT IT WOULD BE NICE TO KNOW, YOU KNOW, WHETHER WE ARE ON THE INS OR OUTS WITH THE CITY COUNCIL AGAIN. YES. SO I CAN I CAN ADD THAT AS AN ITEM, AND I CAN JUST ATTACH THE VOTING RECORD THAT COMES OUT. AND SURE. JUST JUST TO ADD TO THAT, BECAUSE I HAD THE SAME ITEM ON MY LITTLE LIST OF THINGS I WANTED TO RAISE IN COMMUNICATIONS AND CORRESPONDENCE ON THE, THE SUCCESS RATE OF OUR RECOMMENDATIONS. I'D LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT INCLUDES, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING WE'VE DONE WITH RESPECT TO CONDITIONAL USE WITH RESPECT TO VARIANCES. AND THEN WITH RESPECT TO, YOU KNOW, JUST REGULAR SUGGESTIONS THAT WE MAKE, LIKE WHEN WE MADE A SUGGESTION THAT WE MOVE THE, THE PUBLIC SESSIONS AWAY FROM NOVEMBER, WHICH IT TURNS OUT IT WOULD HAVE BEEN A MISTAKE TO THE SEASON, YOU KNOW, JUST KIND OF JUST ACROSS THE BOARD. SO AGAIN, IT'S, IT'S GOING TO BE A REPORT. IT'S JUST THE IT'S COUNCIL'S IT'S THE ACTION REPORT FROM COUNCIL. HOW COUNCIL VOTED ON EACH THING. 
          UNFORTUNATELY, IF YOU WANT SPECIFIC INFORMATION ABOUT EACH DISCUSSION POINT, YOU'D HAVE TO GO BACK AND WATCH THE VIDEO FROM CITY COUNCIL. SO THE THE MINUTES OF EVERY COUNCIL 
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MEETING THAT ARE PRODUCED FOLLOWING. BUT THEN THERE'S ALSO IN THE INTERIM, THERE'S A VOTING RECORD THAT IS REPORTED. WHAT ERIC IS TALKING ABOUT IS ONLINE ALREADY THE VOTING RECORD. SHE'S JUST SAYING SHE'LL ATTACH IT TO THE AGENDA. AND SO THE ONLY THING WE'D BE ABLE TO FOLLOW IS THE SPECIFIC PETITIONERS THAT WE SEE HERE. AND THEN THAT GOES FORWARD TO COUNCIL. THE DETAILS ON THAT I DON'T I DON'T SEE HOW YOU WOULD PULL IT BECAUSE IT IS YOU HAVE TO YOU WOULD HAVE TO WATCH THE VIDEO AND TRANSCRIBE. YOU KNOW, THOSE. WELL, WE MAKE A RECOMMENDATION ON, LET'S SAY A VARIANCE UP OR DOWN THAT'LL THAT THAT'S OKAY. YEAH, YEAH, WE'RE NOT ANSWERING THE SAME QUESTION. THE ANSWER IS IF WE SEND SOMETHING TO COUNCIL, YOU JUST TELL US THE RESULTS. THAT VOTING THING WILL BE FINE. OKAY. I'M SORRY, I WASN'T MAKING MYSELF CLEAR, BUT BUT WE'LL JUST LEAVE IT AT THAT. I HAVE A FEW OTHER ITEMS. MAY I COVER THOSE, MR. CHAIRMAN? OF COURSE. THANK YOU. SECOND THING I WAS GOING TO RAISE WAS THE ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVALS ON ZONING. AT LAST MEETING, THERE WAS A REQUEST AND ANDREW WAS GOING TO WRITE SOMETHING UP FOR US SO THAT WE COULD HAVE A LISTING OF THE ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVALS, YOU KNOW, ON ZONING TYPE THINGS. NOT ON EVERYTHING, OF COURSE, BUT ON ON ZONING. 
          LIKE, AND I'M THINKING PETTIT SQUARE WOULD BE THE SORT OF THING I'M LOOKING FOR. SO IN THE INITIAL REPORT BACK TO US, IT'D BE NICE IF WE HAD MAYBE 2 OR 3 MONTHS IN ADVANCE OF THE, YOU KNOW, IN IN ADVANCE OF THE NEXT MEETING. AND THEN AFTER THAT, JUST A REPORT THAT WOULD BE B CURRENT. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? SO I DON'T KNOW. TO BE CLEAR, THE WE DID IT LAST MEETING. PETTIT SQUARE WAS, WAS A THE ISSUANCE OF A BUILDING PERMIT THAT WASN'T A SPECIFIC ZONING APPROVAL, ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVAL. THAT WAS. YOU WOULD BE LOOKING. RIGHT. YOU WOULD BE LOOKING AT A REPORT OF EVERY BUILDING PERMIT THAT WAS APPROVED FOR 2 TO 3. I MEAN, YOU'D BE LOOKING AT HUNDREDS OF EVERY REVIEW THAT'S APPROVED, EVERY INSPECTION THAT'S PASSED, EVERY I MEAN, BUILDING PERMIT. WE REACHED A CONSENSUS LAST TIME THAT THAT WASN'T AN APPROPRIATE THING TO PUT UPON YOUR OFFICE. OKAY. THERE IS A LIST OF ALL THE SITE PLANS WHICH DO NOT GO BEFORE THE PAB AND CITY COUNCIL. WE DO UPDATE, PROVIDE AN UPDATED LIST, YOU KNOW, UPDATED IN REAL TIME AS THINGS ARE APPROVED AND REVIEWED ON OUR WEBSITE, THAT THOSE ARE THOSE ARE PROJECTS THAT ARE ADMINISTRATIVELY APPROVED, IF YOU WILL. BUT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVALS, I MEAN, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT EVERY BUSINESS TAX RECEIPT THAT GETS REVIEWED BY THE CITY, EVERY FENCE PERMIT, EVERY SEAWALL PERMIT, EVERY REROOFING PERMIT, THAT'S THOSE ARE ALL ADMINISTRATIVE, RIGHT? OKAY, OKAY, JUST A SECOND. AT THE END OF LAST MEETING, WE DIDN'T AGREE NOT TO DO THAT. WHAT WE AGREED TO DO. AND IF YOU CAN GO BACK AND LISTEN TO THE TO THE VIDEO, YOU'LL SEE THAT ANDREW AGREED THAT HE WAS GOING TO TRY TO WRITE UP SOMETHING THAT WOULD NARROW IT DOWN INTO SOMETHING THAT WE WERE REALLY LOOKING FOR. AND SO THAT'S THE ACCURATE DESCRIPTION OF WHAT HAPPENED IN LAST MEETING, NOT WHAT YOU SAID, NOT THAT MUCH DIFFERENT. AND SO YEAH. ANDREW, I DON'T THINK SO. 
          NO, I DON'T KNOW. YOU'RE NOT YOU'RE NOT LOOKING AT IT CAREFULLY ENOUGH TO DO ANYTHING. 
          CAN I, CAN I OFFER A LITTLE BIT OF SUPPORT FOR ANDREW AND ALSO SUPPORT TOO? I THINK THE INTENTION, I THINK IT MAY BE USEFUL TO ALL PAB BOARD MEMBERS TO HAVE. I'LL USE THE TERM A CHEAT SHEET, AND ON THE CHEAT SHEET WOULD BE LINKS TO GONE. FOR THEM TO GO AND LOOK AT THE AMENDMENTS OR LINKS TO GO AND LOOK AT THINGS THAT WOULD BE USEFUL AS A AS A PAB MEMBER TO GO AND LOOK AT. AND ONE OF THOSE THINGS COULD BE SITE AMENDMENTS THAT'S BEEN EITHER ADMINISTRATIVELY, BUT BASICALLY WE JUST HAVE STRAIGHT LINK WHAT IT'S FOR, AND THEN WE CAN ALWAYS GO BACK TO IT WHEN WE FORGET THAT. AND WE COULD EVEN JUST LIKE LEAVE IT TO LIVE ON THE AGENDA ALL THE TIME, YOU KNOW? SO YES, I DID. I KNOW WE DID AN ONBOARDING PROCESS WITH, I THINK I SPECIFICALLY REMEMBER DOING ONE WITH YOU. AND THERE WAS INCLUDED IN THAT BINDER, A PAGE THAT HAS LINKS TO, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT AREAS OF OUR WEBSITE WHERE YOU CAN FIND THAT SITE PLAN LIST I WAS JUST MENTIONING AND STUFF LIKE THAT. SO I CAN FORWARD THAT TO ALL OF YOU, EVEN THINGS LIKE THE INTERACTIVE MAP, WHICH IS VERY USEFUL, BUT YOU ALWAYS FORGET WHERE TO GO AND LOOK FOR IT. EXACTLY. THAT WAS ON THERE AS WELL. GOOD IDEA. OKAY, LAST ITEM FOR ME IN 2022, BRUCE SELF MADE A PRESENTATION TO THE THE CITY COUNCIL AT THE CITY COUNCIL'S REQUEST. THAT WAS A REPORT ON BASICALLY THE ACTIVITIES OF THE PLANNING ADVISORY BOARD. NOW, I WENT BACK AND LOOKED AT THE VIDEO OF THAT AND AND IT WAS REALLY A VERY USEFUL EXERCISE. AND SO, SO WHAT HAPPENED WAS THE CITY COUNCIL INVITED THE CHAIR OF 
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THE PLANNING ADVISORY BOARD TO COME IN AND MAKE A PRESENTATION ABOUT OUR ACTIVITIES. AND THEN THERE WAS AN EXCHANGE THAT LED TO A LITTLE UNDERSTANDING, A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF THE WHAT THE CITY COUNCIL HOPED TO RECEIVE FROM THE IN TERMS OF GUIDANCE. NOW, IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE AN ANNUAL REPORT AND IT DIDN'T HAPPEN. AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S BEEN, YOU KNOW, WHAT, SEVERAL YEARS, FOUR YEARS SINCE SINCE IT HAPPENED. SO I THINK THAT IT WOULD BE NICE TO, TO PICK THAT BACK UP AND, AND THEN THAT WOULD BE A WAY FOR US TO LEARN A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT THE CITY COUNCIL WAS THINKING ABOUT HOW WE'RE SERVING THEM. AND SO I'D LIKE TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION THAT I THINK IT'S A GREAT SUGGESTION. I THINK THEY SHOULD DO THAT WITH ALL THE REPORTS PERSONALLY. I MEAN, THAT WAS THE COMMUNICATION. YEAH. IT WAS. 
          YEAH. THAT WAS THE INTENT. WE WE GOT LUCKY. AND WHEN THAT PROGRAM ROLLED OUT, WE GOT A B AND DRB THE TWO BOARDS THAT PLANNING FACILITATES UP. FIRST, I THINK IT WAS A LITTLE MORE DIFFICULT TO GET SOME OF THE OTHER BOARDS. SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT SEEMS TO MAYBE HAVE FIZZLED OUT A LITTLE BIT, BUT I CAN PUSH TO GET THAT, SEE IF WE CAN JUST ASK FOR A CONSENSUS THAT WE MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL, THAT WE PICK THAT BACK UP. I'D SUPPORT THAT. THANK YOU. COMMUNICATE ANYTHING I INCREASE COMMUNICATION I THINK IS WORTHWHILE. ANY ANY OBJECTIONS? OKAY, MR. CHAIR, I JUST PULLED UP MY NOTES. I KEEP SOME NOTES AS WE GO ALONG, AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE CLEAR I WASN'T WHETHER OR NOT I WAS DELINQUENT IN DELIVERING SOMETHING. BUT I HAVE A NOTE THAT SAYS WHAT ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVALS SHOULD BE MADE EASILY AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC, BECAUSE THAT WAS WAS THAT THE DISCUSSION YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT? OH, NO, I WASN'T SAYING THAT YOU WERE DELAYED. I WAS JUST SAYING THAT THAT YOU WERE YOU WERE HAD AGREED TO DO THAT. OKAY. NO, NO NO NO NO ACCUSATION OF OF DELAY OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. OKAY. BUT I WAS JUST TRYING TO SUGGEST THAT I'M NOT SURE THAT I, I DIDN'T WRITE DOWN THAT I, I AGREED TO, TO PREPARE SOMETHING, BUT I WILL, BUT I, I THINK IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE PROBABLY A COLLABORATION BETWEEN MYSELF AND, AND, AND MISS MARTIN BECAUSE WE TALKED ABOUT LIKE, THERE'S SO MANY ADMINISTRATIVE DECISIONS THAT ARE MADE. HOW DO I JUST WANT TO, I KNOW YOU AND I STRONGLY DISAGREE ON THIS, BUT I JUST DON'T WANT TO. OUR PLANNING DEPARTMENT IS OVERWORKED AND OVERSTRESSED AS IT IS, AND I DON'T WANT TO MAKE WORK HERE THAT THAT INVOLVES CLOSE TO AN IMPOSSIBILITY. IT WAS MY IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING IF YOU PROVIDE THIS SERIES OF LINKS, THERE'S A WAY THAT PEOPLE CAN GET ON AND LOOK FOR THEMSELVES. IS THAT CORRECT? I WILL PROVIDE THAT TODAY. YES. OKAY. LET'S SEE HOW THAT WORKS. 
          AND IF WE NEED MORE INFORMATION, NO ONE WHEN WE ASK FOR. IF I COULD JUST SIMPLIFY IT EVEN FURTHER, WHAT I'LL DO IS I'LL TAKE IT UPON MYSELF TO DO EXACTLY WHAT I WANT TO HAVE DONE, AND THEN WHAT I'LL DO EVERY OTHER MONTH THAT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT. I'LL PRESENT TO THE A, B AND SAY, HERE'S WHAT WE RECOMMENDED AND HERE'S HOW THE THE CITY COUNCIL ACTED. 
          I'LL DO THAT MYSELF. SHE'S WILLING TO DO THAT. GIVE US THAT REPORT. THAT WOULD BE FINE. 
          THE QUESTION I HAVE OF WAS SIMPLY DEALING WITH THESE ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVAL ISSUES. 
          RIGHT? THAT'S A LARGER QUESTION. SO I MADE A NOTE AGAIN TO IT. I'LL HAVE TO THINK ABOUT IT AND TALK WITH ERICA AND JUST BRAINSTORM ABOUT IT. BUT DON'T DON'T PUT A HARD DEADLINE ON ME TO DRAFT SOMETHING ON THAT. BUT I, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE GETTING AT. I HAVE A NOTE NOW THAT TO MYSELF, THESE ARE ALL NOTES TO MYSELF TO REMIND ME OF WHAT TO DO. AND JUST SO IT'S CLEAR, MY COMMENTS AND MY REQUEST IS, IS A CRITICISM ON NO ONE. I JUST WAS HOPING TO GET INFORMATION THAT WOULD HELP ME DO A BETTER JOB AS A MEMBER OF THE P A B. YOU'RE NOT HURTING. MY FEELINGS AREN'T HURT AT ALL. I WAS JUST LIKE, OH BOY, DID I FORGET SOMETHING. SO ALRIGHT. GOT IT. YEAH, JUST ONE COMMENT. THERE WAS A DISTRIBUTION MADE BY THE STAFF LATER THIS AFTERNOON ABOUT THE. SURVEY FROM THE MIRACLE MILE ASSOCIATION THAT I PRESENTED TO STAFF AND THEY, THEY WERE NICE ENOUGH TO DISTRIBUTE IT TODAY. AND THE ONLY THING COMMENT THAT I WANT TO MAKE IS THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT SHOULD GO. I THINK, FARTHER AND FURTHER. AND ALSO THE FACT THAT IT IS A SURVEY FROM THE RESIDENTS. IT'S NOT A COMPLAINT FROM SOMEBODY. IT'S A CONSENSUS THAT WAS TAKEN IN A SERIOUS GROUP OF CONDOMINIUMS WITH RESIDENTS THAT THAT CAME UP WITH THIS. 
          AND THIS WAS THE THE SUMMATION OF THESE SORT OF SIMILAR IDEAS THAT MADE SENSE TO THEM. SO I 
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THINK IT'S IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT HAS ALREADY BEEN GOING ON AND THE FACT THAT THE PAB HAS NOT REALLY BEEN INVOLVED IN IT, TO MAYBE HAVE THINGS LIKE THIS VISION THAT EVERYBODY HAS SEEN TO SAY, OKAY, THIS HAPPENED THERE. BUT WITH ALL OF THE FUTURE, SINCE WE'RE DEVISING THIS COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT THIS AREA AS A AS A SHOWCASE AND GATEWAY FOR THE CITY SHOULD BE THIS, THIS, THIS THING SHOULD BE CONSIDERED MORE THAN JUST SOMEBODY MAKING A COMMENT THAT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, MAKING. AND HOPEFULLY IT GETS SOME LEGS TO IT. BESIDES OUR BOARD BECAUSE IT'S A CONCERN. AND IF WE'RE SAYING IT'S UP TO THE RESIDENTS WEIGH IN. WILL THEY DID. THANK YOU. AND I HAVE ONE LAST QUESTION. IT'S JUST FOR CURIOSITY, BUT IT'S PROBABLY THE QUESTION I GET ASKED MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE. WHAT'S THE STATUS OF THE CONSTRUCTION AT THE CORNER OF 41 AND FIFTH? THAT BIG DEVELOPMENT THAT'S GOING IN THERE? I DO NOT HAVE A STATUS FOR YOU ON THAT. I HAVE NO IDEA. THEY HAD TO. WE ISSUED BUILDING PERMITS AND OKAY, I JUST WE RUSH, RUSH, RUSH TO GET BUILDING PERMITS ISSUED AND THEN NOTHING HAPPENS, RIGHT. 
          FINANCING. OKAY. HOW LONG IS THE BUILDING PERMIT VALID FOR? WELL, I HESITATE TO ANSWER THIS WITHOUT OUR BUILDING OFFICIAL, BUT THERE ARE I WOULD IMAGINE IT'S AROUND ONE YEAR. HOWEVER, IT DEPENDS ON ACTIVITY OF THAT BUILDING PERMIT. SO IF THERE'S THERE'S A FULL NON-ACTIVITY IS ONE THING, BUT THEN ARE THERE THINGS YOU ARE DOING TO ACTIVATE THAT BUILDING? PERMIT ONE BUCKET OF CEMENT. AND I GUESS THE OTHER QUESTION FOLLOWING UP ON THAT IS WHEN WE HAVE A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, ARE THEY ONCE WE APPROVE THAT, IS THAT GOOD FOREVER? EVEN THOUGH THEY DON'T DO ANYTHING, THERE ARE TIME LIMITATIONS TO VEST THAT PLAN DEVELOPMENT, IF YOU WILL. OKAY, JUST ON THAT VERY POINT, WE CAN VERY EASILY GET CAUGHT UP WHEN WE HEAR THINGS LIKE VESTED RIGHT GRANDFATHERED RIGHTS. AND THOSE CAN ACTUALLY BE PUSHED TO THE WAYSIDE IF THERE IS AMENDMENT. IN OTHER WORDS, I'M GOING TO BUILD AND THIS IS WHAT I PUT FOR YOU ON PLANNING. AND NOW I WANT TO ALTER IT. YOUR GRANDFATHER RIGHTS DISAPPEAR WITH THAT ALTERATION. SO WE NEED TO BE MINDFUL. AND ONE OF THE OTHER AREAS, WHEN I VOTED NO ON QUITE A FEW THINGS, EVEN THOUGH I MAY BE IN FAVOR OF THE DEVELOPER, IT'S BECAUSE IT WILL SPEED THE PROCESS UP RATHER THAN HAVING A DEVELOPER GO AND HAVE TO SPEND MORE MONEY TO COME BACK BEFORE PAB, TO GO BEFORE CITY. AND THE OTHER THING THAT YOU SEE, I THINK WE GET QUESTIONS ABOUT SOME OF THE PROJECTS THAT YOU'VE REVIEWED IN THE PAST. AND MAYBE WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THOSE IS THERE'S ALSO WHAT WE CALL TOLLING OF THE, THE, THE, THOSE DEADLINES ARE TOLD WHEN THERE'S A STATE OF EMERGENCY. SO WE'VE HAD BETWEEN COVID, EACH OF THE STORMS, THERE'S, YOU KNOW, ANYTIME A STATE OF EMERGENCY IS DECLARED BY THE GOVERNOR, THERE'S A TOLLING THAT GETS PUT ON THAT. SO SOME OF THESE HAVE BEEN EXTENDED MUCH LONGER THAN YOU WOULD APPRECIATE. THE TIME. THAT WAS VERY HELPFUL. HAVE THEY CONSIDERED HAVE THEY CONSIDERED PERFORMANCE BONDS FOR THINGS LIKE THAT? TO ANSWER THAT, NOPE. NOT THAT I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT. MUNICIPALITIES DO THOSE THINGS SO THAT THERE ISN'T A GREEN FENCE THERE FOR EXACTLY WHAT OUR CHAIRMAN. YES, GIVEN THE AMOUNT OF GREEN FENCING WE HAVE UP IN THE CITY. IS THIS SOMETHING THAT THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT OR WHOEVER KEEPS AN EYE ON TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T HAVE BUILDING PERMITS GOING ON AD NAUSEUM AND GREEN FENCES EVERYWHERE. AND EVERY TIME YOU GET A STORM, THEY BLOW AROUND. I WILL ASK FOR AN UPDATE FROM OUR BUILDING OFFICIAL, AND I'M INTRIGUED BECAUSE THEY'RE EVERYWHERE. ALTHOUGH ONE JUST OPPOSITE CVS ON THIRD SOUTH DID DISAPPEAR. YES. AND THAT, I MEAN, IT HAPPENS. IT HAPPENS WHERE THE PROJECTS ARE NO LONGER, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NO LONGER ESSENTIALLY VALID OR THEY'RE NOT GOING TO DO THEM. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, AT THAT POINT, OBVIOUSLY THE FENCE IS STILL IT'S JUST IN LIMBO AT THAT POINT AND THE PROJECT'S NO LONGER GOING ON. IT'S NOT LIKE THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT, NOTHING'S ACTIVE ANYMORE, BUT THE PROPERTY OBVIOUSLY JUST HAS TO STAY THE WAY IT IS. SO UNFORTUNATELY, I MEAN, THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN FENCING AND CONSTRUCTION FENCING. SO WE WOULDN'T ISSUE YOU A FENCE PERMIT TO FENCE A VACANT PROPERTY BECAUSE THE FENCE IS CONSIDERED AN ACCESSORY STRUCTURE. SO FROM PLANNING DEPARTMENTS THAT WE'RE NOT ALLOWING THAT. BUT IF A CONSTRUCTION FENCE GOES UP A CONSTRUCTION FENCE, REMEMBER THE CONSTRUCTION FENCE CAN BE ERECTED PRIOR TO DEMOLITION OF THE PREVIOUS BUILDING. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, SO YOU MAY SEE THOSE CONSTRUCTION FENCES FOR YEARS 
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AT A TIME BECAUSE THEY KEEP THEM UP. BUT YES, IF IF A BUILDING PERMIT TRULY IS ABANDONED AND IS INACTIVE, THEN, YOU KNOW, THOSE FENCES WOULD COME DOWN. BUT I WOULD JUST HAVE TO CONFIRM WITH OUR BUILDING OFFICIAL ON THE STATUS OF, YOU KNOW, INDIVIDUAL BUILDING PERMITS. RIGHT. THANK YOU. I THINK THE PROPERTY I WAS REFERRING TO IS THE HUXLEY, AND I THINK THEIR SALES OFFICE DISAPPEARED AS WELL. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE? CONGRATULATIONS FOLKS. WE GOT THROUGH A HARD DAY. I AP
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