ALL RIGHT. GOOD MORNING EVERYONE. WE ARE HERE WITH THE COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
MEETING OF THURSDAY, 
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DECEMBER 4TH, 2025. MADAM CLERK, COULD YOU DO THE ROLL CALL,
PLEASE? CHAIR KRISEMAN HERE. VICE CHAIR. PENMAN HERE. 
          MEMBER. BARTON HERE. MAYOR HEITMAN HERE. VICE MAYOR HUTCHINSON HERE. 
          MEMBER. CRAMER HERE. MEMBER. PETRANOFF HERE. THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. WOULD YOU ALL JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE? PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. 
          AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS? ONE NATION UNDER GOD,
INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. 
          THANK YOU. AND AGAIN, GOOD MORNING TO EVERYONE. 
          GOOD TO SEE YOU ALL HERE. NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS TO SET THE AGENDA FOR THE MEETING. 
          [3) SET AGENDA]
DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY CHANGES FROM FROM THE BOARD? YES. MEMBER. PENMAN. I WONDER IF WE COULD ADD A LITTLE BIT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS. 
          THAT WAS SENT OUT JUST A LITTLE BIT BEFORE THANKSGIVING,
HAVING TO DO WITH SOME SITUATION IN FIFTH NORTH. 
          WE ALL RECEIVED THIS. AS I REMEMBER, THIS HAS THIS HAS TO DO WITH WITH SOME GALVANIZED
PIPES IN FIFTH NORTH. 
          THIS IS WHAT MISS MISS HUTCHISON WROTE TO US ABOUT. 
          YES. YEAH. YES. AND FOR EVERYONE'S INFORMATION JUDY HUTCHISON CONTACTED ME ABOUT THIS
ISSUE RIGHT BEFORE THANKSGIVING, AND I SET UP A MEETING WITH HER FOR HER WITH STAFF THAT OCCURRED ON
MONDAY THIS WEEK, AND I ATTENDED AS WELL. AND THEN SHE SUBSEQUENTLY SET THE SENT THE EMAIL THAT WE ALL
RECEIVED. 
          AND I WAS GOING TO REPORT ON THAT LATER IN THE MEETING AND COMMUNICATIONS OR WHATEVER,
BUT WE CAN I WAS GOING TO BRING IT UP FOR DISCUSSION AND CONSIDERATION OF NEXT STEPS. I THINK THE BEST PLACE TO DO THAT WOULD EITHER BE IN THE
CONTEXT OF OUR ADMINISTRATOR'S REPORT OR IN COMMUNICATIONS, IF THAT MAKES SENSE TO YOU. NOT NECESSARILY,
BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A SITUATION HERE WHERE SOME PEOPLE WERE NOTIFIED A LITTLE BIT BEFORE THANKSGIVING THAT THEY HAD GALVANIZED PIPES IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD AND THAT THAT
COULD POSSIBLY LEAD TO SOME SORT OF LEAD POISONING OR SOMETHING IN THEIR WATER. SO I DON'T THINK THAT'S AN AFTERTHOUGHT IN MY BOOK, BUT I'LL BE HAPPY TO ENTERTAIN A VOTE ON THE PART OF MY COLLEAGUES AS TO WHETHER OR NOT
THIS IS SERIOUS ENOUGH TO BRING TO THE FORWARD, TO THE AGENDA, OR TO TALK ABOUT IT AFTER THE MEETING. 
          I'D BE HAPPY TO HEAR FROM MY COLLEAGUES ON THAT. 
          WE CAN ADD IT TO THE AGENDA, AS THE CASE MAY BE. 
          AND THE REASON I SET UP THE MEETING WAS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE A PUBLIC HEALTH
CONCERN. 
          AND AND AS I SAY, I WAS GOING TO REPORT ON THAT TODAY SO WE CAN ADD IT AS AN AGENDA ITEM
OR AT ANY POINT ON THE AGENDA, AS, AS THE WILL OF THE BOARD WOULD BE,
IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR CONSENSUS, YOU KNOW, ON ADDING IT, I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF A DISCUSSION,
ESPECIALLY IF WE CAN GET DOCTOR GEORGE HERE. 
          HE MAY. WELL, WE WOULD NEED TO HAVE DOCTOR GEORGE HERE FOR THAT. 
          SO WE NEED TO PUT IT ON THE AGENDA SO WE CAN WE CAN WHERE WOULD YOU SUGGEST WE PUT IT
UNDER 98 C OR 90 OR. I MEAN, WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT IN CONNECTION WITH THEM WITH THE STORMWATER HCY DOCTOR
GEORGE WILL BE HERE TO TALK ABOUT. INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS. 
          SO MAYBE IT MAKES SENSE TO INCLUDE IT RIGHT THERE. 
          YEAH, I APPRECIATE THAT. I DID LOOK UP THE STATE STATUTES RELATIVE TO CRAS. 
          AND IT DOES BASICALLY SAY THE PRIMARY PURPOSE IS ACHIEVED BY ADDRESSING CONDITIONS SUCH AS
SUBSTANDARD OR INADEQUATE STRUCTURES, INSUFFICIENT ROADWAYS. WE'VE GOT AN INFRASTRUCTURE THING HERE THAT I THINK IS CONCERNING. 
          AND I THINK IT I THINK IT COMPORTS 100% WITH WHAT THE STATE STATUTE SAYS THE PURPOSE OF A
CRA IS FOR. 
          YEAH, I DO TOO. SO AND WE TALKED, AS YOU SAW IN THE EMAIL THAT JUDY HUTCHINS SENT,
WE TALKED ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF A FUNDING PROGRAM TO REPLACE THE SERVICE LINES IN THE AREA. 
          BOTH THE AREA AFFECTED, WHICH IS BOTH RIVER PARK EAST AND LAKE PARK,
PARTS OF LAKE PARK. 
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AC WORKS FOR ME. PARDON ME. I SAID AC WILL WORK FOR ME. 
          ANYBODY OBJECT TO THAT? SO WE'LL INCLUDE IT. AC AND CAN WE MAKE IT HD? WE DO HAVE AN AC OR DO YOU WANT DO YOU WANT IT TO INCLUDE IT WITH THE STORE THE MULTI
BASIN PROJECT DISCUSSION. 
          WELL IT'S RELATED BUT IT'S REALLY SEPARATE. SO. 
          WHERE DO YOU WANT TO MAKE IT AN 8D8DADI APPRECIATE IT. 
          THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. THANK YOU COLLEAGUES THIS IS OKAY. 
          ANYTHING ELSE IN TERMS OF THE AGENDA AND MR. YOUNG OR MR. MCCONNELL. MISS JENKINS ANY ANY CHANGES? NO,
NOT FROM ME, SIR. 
          NO, CHAIR. OKAY. I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA WITH THE ADDITION OF ITEM 80. 
          MOTION TO APPROVE AGENDA WITH ITEM 80 ADDED. SECOND. 
          WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. WOULD YOU ALL IN FAVOR OF THE AGENDA,
PLEASE SAY AYE. 
          ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES AND THE AGENDA IS SET. 
          [4) PUBLIC COMMENT]
WE'LL NOW MOVE TO PUBLIC COMMENT. I HAVE A NUMBER OF REGISTERED PUBLIC SPEAKERS. ANYBODY WHO WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT AND HAS NOT DONE SO. 
          HAS NOT FILLED OUT A FORM YET. PLEASE. THERE ARE FORMS AT THE BACK OF THE ROOM,
AND PLEASE FILL THEM OUT AND GIVE THEM TO THE CLERK. 
          BUT SEVERAL PEOPLE HAVE ASKED THAT THEIR TIME BE CEDED TO ANOTHER SPEAKER. 
          SO I'LL. I WANT TO VERIFY THAT AS WE GO THROUGH,
AND THEN WE CAN HAVE THAT OCCUR. 
          THE FIRST SPEAKER IS JUDITH WILLIAMS, WHO IS SEATING HER TIME TO DEBORAH SPENCER. 
          IS THAT RIGHT, MISS WILLIAMS? OKAY, SO THEN OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS DEBORAH SPENCER. 
          DEBORAH SPENCER HERE. 
          STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE. DEBORAH SPENCER. 
          AND I'M AT 571 14TH STREET NORTH NAPLES, FLORIDA. 
          WELCOME. HI. BEAR WITH ME. OKAY. INJUSTICE ANYWHERE IS A THREAT TO INJUSTICE EVERYWHERE. I STARTED THAT OUT. THAT'S A MARTIN LUTHER KING QUOTE. 
          EXCUSE ME. GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS DEBORAH. I'M SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE RESIDENTS AND
PROPERTY OWNERS OF RIVER PARK EAST. 
          RIVER PARK EAST WAS ESTABLISHED IN 1968 AS A DESIGNATED COMMUNITY FOR BLACK FAMILIES,
INCLUDING, EXCUSE ME, EXCLUDED FROM OTHER AREAS OF NAPLES DUE TO REDLINING IN 1998. 
          THE COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY CRA WAS ESTABLISHED WITH TAX INCREMENT REVENUES
INTENDED TO FUND INFRASTRUCTURE AND SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS IN QUALIFYING NEIGHBORHOODS SUCH AS OURS. 
          DESPITE 27 YEARS WITHIN THE CRA, BOUNDARY, RIVER PARK EAST HAS NOT RECEIVED EQUITABLE
INVESTMENT. 
          OUR SEA WALLS REMAIN DETERIORATED AND NON-COMPLIANT WITH ENGINEERING STANDARDS. 
          DRAINAGE SYSTEMS ARE UNDERSIZED WITH NO STORMWATER PUMPS INSTALLED,
RESULTING IN REPETITIVE FLOODING. 
          ELECTRICAL LINES REMAIN ABOVE GROUND. UNLIKE OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS NAPLES NEIGHBORHOODS
WHERE THEY HAVE BEEN BURIED, OUR CANALS HAVE BEEN HAVE NOT BEEN DREDGED IN OVER 30 YEARS. 
          THIS LEADING TO ENVIRONMENTAL DECLINE AND A DESPERATE DISAPPEARANCE OF MANATEES AND
AQUATIC LIFE. 
          MEANWHILE, CRA FUNDS HAVE BEEN DIRECTED TOWARD PROJECTS SUCH AS ANTHONY PARK AND THE
FASHION DISTRICT, BENEFITING WEALTHIER, PREDOMINANTLY WHITE NEIGHBORHOODS,
WHILE RIVER PARK EAST CONTINUES TO FACE SYSTEMIC UNDERINVESTMENT. 
          THIS CONSTITUTES DISPARATE TREATMENT AND DISPARATE IMPACT UNDER CIVIL RIGHTS LAWS. 
          WE FORMALLY DEMAND SEAWALL REBUILT CODE. STORM WATER PUMPS INSTALLED AND DRAINAGE
RE-ENGINEERED. 
          ELECTRICAL LINES BURIED. CANALS DREDGED IMMEDIATELY. 
          A FULL LINE BY LINE AUDIT OF CRA EXPENDITURES SINCE 1998. 
          WE EXPECT A WRITTEN CORRECTIVE ACTION PLAN WITHIN 30 DAYS,
INCLUDING TIMELINES, ENGINEERING COMMITMENTS AND FUNDING. 
          THE IDENTIFICATION FAILURE TO RESPOND WILL RESULT IN ESCALATION TO THE ACLU,
EPA, NAACP AND THE FLORIDA CIVIL RIGHTS COMMISSION FOR INVESTIGATION OF CIVIL RIGHTS VIOLATIONS. 
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RIVER PARK EAST RESIDENTS ARE NOT ASKING FOR FAVORS. 
          WE ARE DEMANDING THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND PROTECTIONS THAT ARE LEGALLY OWED TO US. 
          I WILL CLOSE THIS BY SAYING ANOTHER QUOTE FROM MARTIN LUTHER KING. 
          JUSTICE FOR ALL AND ALL SHOULD HAVE JUSTICE. OUR NEIGHBORHOODS SHOULD BE REFLECT. 
          OUR NEIGHBORHOODS SHOULD REFLECT THE SAME AS ALL OF NAPLES. 
          HERE IT IS. WE WERE AFRAID ALL SUMMER LONG IF A FLOOD CAME THROUGH THE SILT IN OUR IN OUR
CANALS IS IS RIDICULOUS. 
          THERE'S NO OTHER PLACE HERE THAT HAS CANALS LOOK LIKE OURS. 
          I WILL, I WILL BE CONCEDING NOW. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS FREDDY COMMODORE. SAY, GREG. 
          THANK YOU. I'M PRETTY. COLORADO, 570 1/14 STREET NORTH,
NAPLES, FLORIDA. 
          I'VE BEEN LIVING HERE FOR 57 YEARS IN THE SAME LOCATION,
AND NOTHING HAD HAPPENED IN OUR COMMUNITY TO BETTER TO BETTER IT. I'VE SEEN EVERY COMMUNITY IN NAPLES AND IN NAPLES DID SOMETHING FOR THEM. 
          A REAL PART OF NAPLES OR NOT? THANK YOU SIR. OUR NEXT SPEAKER I HAVE IS CARMEN BOWMAN, WHO IS SEATING TIME TO JAMES WHITAKER IF I HAVE THAT RIGHT. 
          OKAY. AND THEN THERE'S ALSO LAURA FITZGIBBONS,
WHO'S SEATING TIME TO MR. WHITAKER. CORRECT. AND SO, MR. WHITAKER, WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME FORWARD NOW? GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS JAMES WHITAKER. I LIVE AT FIVE,
SEVEN EIGHT 13TH STREET NORTH. 
          AND I'M HERE FOR THREE REASONS. REASON NUMBER ONE,
I WANT TO BRING INTO THE KNOWLEDGE OF THE CITY OF NAPLES AND ALL OF ITS RESIDENTS THAT THERE IS A COMMUNITY ON THE GORDON RIVER CALLED THE
RIVER PARK EAST COMMUNITY. 
          IT'S ONE. TWO. I WANT TO SPEAK ABOUT IAN AND MILTON AND HOW THEY AFFECTED OUR COMMUNITY. 
          THREE. I NEED TO SPEAK TO YOU GUYS ABOUT HOW YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE HISTORY IN
NAPLES. 
          SO LET'S START WITH THE FIRST. RIVER PARK EAST IS A MULTICULTURAL COMMUNITY. 
          NOW. WHEN IT WAS FIRST ESTABLISHED, IT WAS ALL BLACK. 
          DUE TO A NUMBER OF REASONS, PEOPLE HAVE SOLD THEIR HOMES AND WE'VE HAD OTHER PEOPLE MOVE
INTO THE COMMUNITY WHO AREN'T BLACK. 
          AND WE APPRECIATE THAT. AND WE WELCOME THAT BECAUSE WE LIKE THE FACT THAT WE'RE DIVERSE
BECAUSE FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO DIDN'T EVEN KNOW WE EXISTED. THEY NEVER KNEW OUR COMMUNITY WAS THERE. 
          THEY ACTUALLY THOUGHT THAT THE PEOPLE THAT LIVED IN OUR COMMUNITY WAS COMING IN FROM
EITHER GOLDEN GATE, STATES GOLDEN GATE OR NAPLES MANOR, BECAUSE NAPLES MANORS HAS THE NAME OF NAPLES MANOR. 
          THEY ACTUALLY THOUGHT THAT NAPLES MANOR WAS PART OF THE CITY OF NAPLES. 
          I'M HERE TODAY TO LET EVERYBODY KNOW WE ARE NOT A PART OF NAKED MANOR. 
          WE'RE NOT A PART OF GOLDEN GATE NOR GOLDEN GATE ESTATES. 
          WE ARE A PART OF THE CITY. WE EXPECT THE SAME TREATMENT FROM THE COUNCIL THAT EVERY OTHER
COMMUNITY GETS. 
          NOW WE HAVE A VERY UNIQUE SITUATION BECAUSE OUR COMMUNITY LIES IN THE CRA BOUNDARIES, BUT STRANGELY ENOUGH, WE DON'T GET TREATED THAT WAY. 
          THERE ARE THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT WERE IT,
A MORE AFFLUENT AREA, WOULDN'T BE ALLOWED TO HAPPEN. I'M HERE TODAY TO ASK THAT THAT BE CORRECTED. 
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NOW SECOND POINT, HURRICANE IAN WAS VERY TRAUMATIC STORM IN OUR AREA. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF EVERYONE IN HERE HAS EVER VISITED RIVER PARK,
BUT WE HAVE A 4 TO 5 FOOT DECLINE FROM FRANK ROAD, WHICH MEANS THAT THE WATER FROM GOODLETTE FRANK DURING THAT STORM,
ALONG WITH THE SURGE, RAN INTO OUR STREETS. RAN INTO OUR HOMES. IT'S KIND OF LIKE SAYING WE WERE A BOWL. 
          AND BEING THE WAY THAT GRAVITY IS, EVERYTHING RUNS TO THE LOWEST POINT,
WHICH JUST HAPPENED TO BE OUR COMMUNITY. 
          A LOT OF US DID NOT LEAVE OUR HOMES BECAUSE WE HAD NEVER BEEN FLOODED. 
          NEVER. SO WE FIGURED WE WERE SAFE. THAT WAS A MISTAKE. 
          I CAN ONLY SPEAK FOR MYSELF, BUT I KNOW A LOT OF MY OTHER NEIGHBORS HAD THE SAME PROBLEM. 
          I STARTED TO LEAVE AT THE LAST MINUTE. COULDN'T DO THAT. 
          MY CAR WAS FLOODED. SINCE IT'S NOT A BOAT, I COULDN'T GET OUT. 
          SO I HAD TO TAKE MY GRANDSON, WHO WAS FOUR YEARS OLD AT THE TIME,
PLACED HIM ON MY SHOULDERS. 
          MY SON IN LAW TOOK HIS SON. THE YOUNGEST PLACED HIM ON HIS SHOULDER,
AND MY DAUGHTER AND THEIR 16 YEAR OLD WALKED TO ANOTHER NEIGHBOR'S HOME WHO JUST HAPPENED TO HAVE HAD A NEW HOME BUILT. 
          SO IT WAS AT THE LEVEL WHERE THEY WERE NOT WORRIED ABOUT FLOODING. 
          THEY ALLOWED FOR US TO STAY WITH THEM UNTIL THE WATER RECEDED. 
          THAT WAS A VERY TRAUMATIC EXPERIENCE FOR MY GRANDKIDS BECAUSE TO THIS DAY,
THE FOUR YEAR OLD, WHO IS NOW OLDER, EVERY TIME IT RAINS HARD, HE ASKS HIS GRANDPA,
OKAY. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF YOU HAVE EVER HAD THE OPPORTUNITY OR SHOULD I SAY THE. 
          THE MISSED OPPORTUNITY TO OR MISFORTUNE. I'M SORRY TO HAVE ONE OF YOUR GRANDKIDS THINK THAT THEY WERE GOING TO DIE. 
          THAT IS HEARTBREAKING IN ITSELF. NOW, THIRD POINT,
THIS COUNCIL HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO STRAIGHTEN UP A MESS THAT EVERY OTHER COUNCIL BEFORE YOU STARTED. 
          THEY OVERLOOKED US WHEN IT CAME TO CRA FUNDING FOR OUR INFRASTRUCTURE,
FOR THINGS THAT WE NEEDED TO BE SAFE. 
          THEY OVERLOOKED US. YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY NOW TO FIX THAT. 
          RATHER THAN THEM TAKING CARE OF OUR INFRASTRUCTURE,
THEY BUILT PARKING GARAGES. 
          IMAGINE THAT YOU HAVE THE LIFE. OF PEOPLES. OF PEOPLE. 
          RATHER IN YOUR HAND. IN CASE THERE IS A MASSIVE STORM THAT COMES THROUGH AS IAN WAS. AND YOU DECIDE TO BUILD PARKING GARAGES. 
          I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE THINKING BEHIND THAT,
OTHER THAN LET'S MAKE MORE ROOM TO GET MORE CARS IN SO THAT WE CAN MAKE MORE TAX MONEY. THAT'S MORE IMPORTANT THAN LIVES. 
          IS THAT WHAT I'M TO BELIEVE? THAT LIVES ARE NOT AS IMPORTANT AS TAX MONEY? MY HOUSE FLOODED TWICE DOING IN AND DOING MILTON. 
          MY SAVINGS HAS DWINDLED. I CAN'T AFFORD TO REBUILD MY HOUSE AGAIN. 
          I'VE DONE IT ONCE. I'VE TORN OUT WALLS THE SECOND TIME. 
          I'M ASKING THAT YOU GUYS MAKE HISTORY. DO WHAT CRA WAS MADE FOR. 
          PUT US ON YOUR LIST OF PRIORITIES. NOT AT THE BOTTOM. 
          WE WOULD LOVE TO BE AT THE TOP, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW OF ANY OTHER AREA THAT IS RECEIVING
WATER FROM OTHER PLACES THAT ARE 
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FLOODING. WE ARE. OUR INFRASTRUCTURE IS NOT ADEQUATE TO TAKE ON THE WATER THAT WE'RE
GETTING, BUT WE'RE STILL GETTING WATER FROM OTHER AREAS. 
          YOU GUYS HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE HISTORY. 
          YOU GUYS HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE IT RIGHT. 
          SO I IMPLORE YOU, MAKE IT RIGHT. THANK YOU. OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS LAUREN BATTLE. 
          GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS LAUREN BATTLE AND I RESIDE AT 578 14TH STREET NORTH. 
          AND TO. SORRY, IS THAT MY PHONE? NO. TO TO CONTINUE JAMES'S LINE OF THINKING. 
          YOU KNOW, I'M FIRST OF ALL, I'M WONDERING, IS THAT PARKING GARAGE A SHELTER? BECAUSE IT SHOULD BE. IT BETTER BE BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE $14 MILLION WENT. 
          AND I AM STILL ASTONISHED THAT PUTTING. AND I HAVE NO PROBLEM SPENDING,
YOU KNOW, CRA MONEY IN A COMMERCIAL AREA. 
          AS LONG AS YOUR HUMAN BEINGS ARE SAFE AND DRY AND THEIR NEEDS HAVE BEEN MET AND THAT
HASN'T HAPPENED. 
          I MEAN, WE ARE THERE'S NO ELEVATION IN THERE. 
          YOU KNOW, ALL OF THE HOMES ARE NOT ELEVATED. SO,
YOU KNOW, THAT'S A PROBLEM. 
          AND I DON'T KNOW OF MANY OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS THAT THAT CAN SAY THAT. 
          SO WE DO HAVE A UNIQUE SITUATION IN RIVER PARK EAST. 
          AND I JUST I'VE BEEN HERE FOR TWO YEARS WONDERING WHY I'M STANDING HERE TODAY STILL
BEGGING YOU TO DO SOMETHING FOR THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          I JUST I DON'T GET IT. IT HAS TO BE PURPOSEFUL BECAUSE THERE'S NO WAY WE COULD HAVE BEEN
IGNORED, YOU KNOW, FOR 30 YEARS. BUT. BUT BY YOUR BOARD,
BY YOUR COUNCIL, YOU KNOW AS WELL. 
          IT IS A CONTINUATION OF A PURPOSEFUL RELUCTANCE TO DO ANYTHING FOR RIVER PARK EAST. 
          I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHY THAT IS. I MEAN, DEBORAH MENTIONED SYSTEMIC RACISM. 
          I YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT TO BELIEVE THAT, BUT WHAT ELSE COULD IT BE? I JUST DON'T GET IT. AND THEN THE GARAGE GOING BACK TO YOUR COMMERCIAL SPENDING. 
          YOU KNOW, THAT GARAGE IS A BIG PROBLEM. AND I DON'T LIKE THE IDEA OF,
YOU KNOW, MORE MONEY BEING SUNK INTO IT. 
          AND PEOPLE LIKE US, YOU KNOW, STILL ON THE RECEIVING END OF ZERO. 
          SO I'M HOPING TODAY IT'S GOING TO TURN. EVERYTHING'S GOING TO TURN AROUND AND DOCTOR
GEORGE IS GOING TO COME UP WITH, YOU KNOW, THE SOLUTIONS HE TALKED ABOUT. AND WE'RE GOING TO FINALLY GET SOME RESOLUTION I
HOPE. 
          I JUST I DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO COME UP HERE AND I DON'T KNOW WHY. 
          YOU KNOW, IT HAS TO CONTINUE. I'M SO INSPIRED BY MY NEIGHBORS COMING OUT AND TALKING ABOUT
THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN GOING ON, BECAUSE I THINK WE'VE ALL KIND OF SWEPT IT UNDER THE RUG AND THAT THOSE DAYS ARE OVER. 
          IT IS OUT IN THE OPEN THAT THE CRA HAS IGNORED RIVER PARK EAST. 
          YOU'VE FAILED US. YOU'VE FAILED US. IF ANY OF YOU ARE RUNNING FOR REELECTION. 
          HERE'S HERE'S MY ADVICE. DON'T. BECAUSE WE ARE NOT THE THE PERSON,
THE PEOPLE THAT ARE SUPPOSED TO COME UP WITH THE SOLUTIONS. 
          I'VE BEEN TOLD BY MANY OF YOU. OH, BRING ME A SOLUTION. 
          GO FIND OUT WHAT YOU NEED AND BRING IT BACK TO US. 
          WELL GUESS WHAT? YOU KNOW WHO'S WHOSE JOB THAT IS YOURS. 
          WE'RE NOT ELECTED OFFICIALS. AND YOU KNOW, IF I WERE,
I'D BE CONSULTING WITH CITY STAFF AND FIGURING OUT HOW TO HELP THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          SO, YEAH, I'M. I'M UPSET AS I, WELL, SHOULD BE,
RIGHTLY SO. 
          AND I THINK THAT YOU GUYS SHOULD BE UPSET BECAUSE YOU DROPPED THE BALL. 
          AND IT HAS TO CHANGE. THIS THIS HAS TO END TODAY. 
          THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER IS JUDY FREIBERG. 
          GOOD MORNING. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ON THIS. 
          AS YOU KNOW NOW, I'M PRESIDENT OF A STATEWIDE ORGANIZATION CALLED THE DEMOCRATIC
ENVIRONMENTAL CAUCUS OF FLORIDA. 
          AND I HAVE AND CONTINUE TO BE PRESIDENT OF A CHAPTER OF THAT ORGANIZATION. 
          WE HAVE 23 CHAPTERS ALL OVER THE STATE. I WAS GOING TO TALK TO YOU AND SAY THE SAME THINGS
THESE FOLKS ARE DOING. 
          I'M NOT GOING TO DO THAT. I'M GOING TO TELL YOU THAT MY NEW BEST FRIEND IS CHATGPT,
WHICH I CALL CHATTY CATHY BECAUSE I TALKED TO HER SO MUCH NOW AND I ASKED HER, ARE THERE OTHER COMMUNITIES ALL OVER THE STATE THAT ARE FACING THIS ISSUE? 
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AND OF COURSE, THE ANSWER IS YES. AND I GOT THIS LONG LIST OF COMMUNITIES. 
          AND I SAID, WELL, WHY IS THAT? WHAT'S GOING ON HERE? HOW DOES THE STATUTE ALLOW THIS? BECAUSE, AS YOU KNOW,
THE STATUTE IS SPECIFICALLY FOR THE PURPOSE OF ADDRESSING COMMUNITIES LIKE RIVER PARK. 
          THAT'S WHAT IT'S THE STATED PURPOSE. AND WHAT THEY SAID WAS CRA PLANS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE
GROUNDED IN THE ELIMINATION AND PREVENTION OF SLUM AND BLIGHT, BUT IN PRACTICE, THE PLANS AND THE MARKETING MATERIALS LEAN INTO ECONOMIC
DEVELOPMENT, PLACEMAKING, ARTS DISTRICT AND TREAT ANTI BLIGHT MORE AS A LEGAL BACKDROP TO ALLOW THEM TO
DO THIS. 
          SO YOU LOOK AT THE STATUTE AND IT GIVES ALL SORTS OF OPPORTUNITIES TO PUT MONEY INTO
BUSINESS AND REDEVELOPMENT AND DEVELOPERS BASICALLY. 
          SO THE QUESTION THEN BECOMES WHAT DO YOU DO ABOUT THAT? THE ONLY THING THESE FOLKS HAVE IS TO APPEAL TO YOUR MORALITY,
BASICALLY, BECAUSE CLEARLY YOU SET UP THIS STATUTE WITH THE BACKDROP OF OF WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO ABOUT BLIGHTED COMMUNITIES AND PUT MONEY INTO THESE
TYPES OF COMMUNITIES THAT ARE AT RISK FOR BEING A SLUM. 
          AND YET THE MONEY HASN'T GONE THERE AT ALL. SO I HAVE ONE MINUTE. 
          I AM GOING TO SUGGEST THAT YOU REPRIORITIZE THESE THE THE MONEY THAT IS SCHEDULED NOW
INSTEAD OF PUTTING RIVER PARK EAST LAST, PUT IT FIRST. THE MONEY HAS TO GO TO PERMANENT FIXES FOR THE FLOODING AND AND
THE THE THE THE CAUSES OF FLOODING THAT THAT ARE AFFECTING THAT COMMUNITY. 
          THANK YOU, MISS FREIBERG. OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS JOAN BENZ IF I'M PRONOUNCING THAT LAST NAME
CORRECTLY. 
          YEAH. WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT? OH, YOU DID OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. AND THE LAST PUBLIC SPEAKER THAT I HAVE,
AT LEAST, IS NICOLE BRICE. 
          AND AGAIN, I'M NOT SURE I'M READING THE LAST NAME CORRECTLY,
BUT I DO WANT TO SAY ONE THING. 
          THE LAST TIME I CAME HERE WAS THE YEAR. COULD YOU COULD YOU JUST STATE YOUR NAME AND
ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD? YES. ALL RIGHT. BRICE OF 539 14TH STREET NORTH. 
          THANK YOU. OKAY. AND I WILL NOT BE REDUNDANT AND OR TAKE MUCH TIME,
BUT I'M HAPPY TO SEE ALL OF MY NEIGHBORS HERE AND HOPING TO GET SOMETHING DONE. I SHOULD HAVE BEEN IN ON THIS A LONG TIME AGO,
BUT HONESTLY, I CAME HERE IN 2000 WHEN WE HAD SITUATIONS WHERE A LOT OF PEOPLE SAY THEY DIDN'T EVEN KNOW THAT RIVER
PARK EXISTED. 
          WE HAD A PARK DOWN THERE. WE DIDN'T HAVE RUNNING WATER. 
          WE DIDN'T HAVE NETS. WE DIDN'T HAVE A BUILDING. 
          WHEN OUR CHILDREN WOULD GET HURT, THEY HAD TO RUN FAR. 
          YOU KNOW, IT WAS GLASS EVERYWHERE. BUT YOU HAD SOMEBODY HERE THEN. 
          HER NAME WAS BUNNY MCKENZIE AND BUNNY CAME THROUGH. 
          SHE WALKED THROUGH THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. SHE STOOD UP FOR US. 
          SHE MADE SURE WE HAD RUNNING WATER. SHE GOT THAT PARK DONE. 
          SHE SAID, NICOLE, WALK AROUND HERE WITH ME. OKAY? LET'S SEE WHAT ALL WE NEED. AND WE DID THAT AND THE PARK STARTED COMING ALONG. 
          AND UNFORTUNATELY SHE PASSED AWAY. AND WE CAME BACK. 
          WE SAID, WELL, HEY, WHERE'S THAT CRA MONEY? WHERE'S THE OTHER,
YOU KNOW, AMENITIES THAT SHE GUARANTEED THAT THE COMMUNITY WOULD HAVE. 
          WELL, HERE COMES PALM TREES. OKAY, HERE COMES ALL OF THESE LITTLE THE PIPE STRUCTURES. WHAT HAPPENED TO THE PARK? WHAT HAPPENED TO THE UNITY FOR OUR COMMUNITY? NOTHING WAS EVER FINISHED. THEY TOOK THAT MONEY AND DID SOMETHING ELSE WITH IT. 
          I DON'T KNOW, BUT WE WERE HERE TO FIGHT FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND FOR OUR CHILDREN,
WHAT IS LEFT OF IT. 
          SO WE COULDN'T GET THE PARK THERE. BUT WE DO HAVE A NET. 
          HOPEFULLY YOU ALL HAVE THE BALL NOW AND WE CAN SCORE. 
          THAT'S IT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH THAT MADAM CLERK,
ARE THERE ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS THAT YOU HAVE? THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT. OKAY. THANK YOU. THAT CONCLUDES THE PUBLIC COMMENT SECTION OF OUR
AGENDA. 
          AND NEXT WE AND WE WILL I'LL JUST SAY TO ALL THE SPEAKERS WE'LL BE DISCUSSING THESE ISSUES
IN PART THROUGH ITEMS THAT ARE ON OUR AGENDA TODAY AND, AND BE ON THAT. WE WILL HAVE DISCUSSION ABOUT ALL THE COMMENTS
THAT YOU'VE MADE AND 
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DISCUSS THEM HERE TODAY AND DISCUSS NEXT STEPS. 
          ITEM NUMBER FIVE, WE HAVE THE CRA ADVISORY BOARD MINUTES OF AUGUST 25TH THAT THE ADVISORY
BOARD 
          [5) APPROVED CRA ADVISORY BOARD MEETING MINUTES]
MINUTES ARE HERE JUST FOR THE BOARD'S INFORMATION. 
          WE ALSO HAVE ITEM SIX APPROVAL OF THE CRA MEETING MINUTES OF OF. 
          [6) MINUTES]
AUGUST 28TH. AND DO I HAVE A MOTION OF APPROVAL FOR THOSE MINUTES. 
          SO MOVED SECOND. I HAVE A MOTION AND I HAVE A SECOND. 
          ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? NONE IN THE MOTION CARRIES. 
          THANK YOU. WE'LL MOVE ON NOW TO. WE HAVE NO ANNOUNCEMENTS AND PRESENTATIONS. 
          WE'LL MOVE ON NOW TO OLD BUSINESS ITEM EIGHT A DESIGN DISTRICT ASSOCIATION UPDATE. 
          [8.A) Naples Design District Association Update.]
MISS JENKINS, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO YOU. THANK YOU,
MR. CHAIR. GOOD MORNING AND GOOD MORNING, CRA MEMBERS. 
          THE FIRST ITEM IS AN UPDATE FROM THE NAPLES DESIGN DISTRICT ASSOCIATION. 
          WE DO HAVE ELIZABETH KURTZ HERE TODAY TO MAKE A PRESENTATION TO YOU. 
          THIS SAME PRESENTATION WAS MADE TO YOUR CRA ADVISORY BOARD. 
          AND ON OCTOBER 27TH, THE ADVISORY BOARD DID MAKE A RECOMMENDATION ON THIS ITEM TO YOU TO
APPROVE THE REQUESTED FUNDING THAT YOU'LL HEAR ABOUT TODAY, UTILIZING A PORTION OF THE BUDGET THAT IS ALLOCATED
CURRENTLY TO THE NAPLES DESIGN DISTRICT. 
          AND WITH THAT, MR. CHAIR, I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE ELIZABETH KURTZ. 
          AND WE DO HAVE A LITTLE PRESENTATION FOR YOU. 
          VERY GOOD. THANK YOU, MISS KURTZ. WELCOME. THANK YOU,
GUYS. 
          AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME THIS MORNING. 
          SOMETHING I DO WANT TO SAY AS WE'VE LISTENED TO A LOT OF THE COMMENTS FROM THE RIVER PARK
EAST COMMUNITY IS LISTENING TO ALL THIS. 
          YOU KNOW, AS WE PRESENT TODAY, WE REALLY WANT TO RESPECT EVERYTHING YOU'VE BEEN THROUGH. 
          I PERSONALLY HAVE HAD MY HOUSE FLOODED, AND I'VE EXPERIENCED THAT TRAUMA. 
          SO I REALLY DO RESPECT IT. WE'RE HERE TODAY TO REALLY REPRESENT THE SMALL BUSINESSES AND
THE BUSINESSES IN THE NAPLES DESIGN DISTRICT, TO JUST CONTINUE CREATING AN ENVIRONMENT FOR THEM THAT ALLOWS THEM TO STAY OPEN,
ALLOWS PEOPLE TO GET TO KNOW OUR COMMUNITY AND OUR BUSINESSES AND SUPPORT THOSE THERE AND THOSE THAT SUPPORT US AS WE TALK TO YOU GUYS. 
          SO AS WE SPEAK, WE REALLY JUST WANT TO SAY HOW MUCH WE RESPECT WHAT YOU'VE BEEN THROUGH. 
          WE WANT I ALSO REPRESENT THE COLLECTIVE, WHICH IS A LARGE BUILDING IN THE DISTRICT. 
          IF THERE'S EVER A TIME WE CAN OFFER OUR SPACE FOR MEETINGS,
WHATEVER IT MAY BE, PLEASE LET US KNOW. 
          WE WANT TO BE THERE FOR YOU. WE UNDERSTAND RESILIENCY,
STORM DRAINAGE. 
          IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US ALL. SO AS I PRESENT JUST UNDERSTAND THAT I. 
          I FEEL AND WE WANT TO BE THERE AS A PARTNER. WE WANT TO UNITE AS A COMMUNITY. 
          SO WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE SUPPORT YOU GUYS. 
          ALL RIGHT. SO I AM ELIZABETH KURTZ ISBELL. I AM THE PRESIDENT EMERITUS OF THE NAPLES
DESIGN DISTRICT. 
          AND I'M HERE TO KIND OF TALK ABOUT HOW, AGAIN,
WE WANT TO CREATE THIS GREAT COMMUNITY AND A SENSE OF PLACE FOR THE NAPLES DESIGN DISTRICT. WHEN PEOPLE GET THERE, THEY DON'T ALWAYS KNOW WHERE THEY'RE LOCATED. 
          WHEN YOU GO TO FIFTH AVENUE, YOU KNOW YOU'RE THERE. SO WE KIND OF WANTED TO TALK ABOUT A
FEW TOPICS AND ASK FOR SOME FUNDING. 
          IT'S ABOUT 2% OF THE ALLOCATED BUDGET FOR THE DESIGN WALK. 
          AND WE FEEL THAT THIS IS A WAY TO KIND OF ENCOURAGE OUR BUSINESS MEMBERS WHO HAVE BEEN
LISTENING ABOUT THE MASTER PLAN AND HAVE BEEN REALLY INVESTED TO SEE WHAT COMES FROM IT, AND WE'RE HERE TO BE THAT RESOURCE. WE HAVE A LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT,
LAURA PATTERSON, ON OUR BOARD. 
          WE HAVE MIKE MIGUEL, WHO'S IN THAT CREATIVE AND FINANCIAL WORLD AND OUR MARKETING TEAM. 
          WE'VE INVESTED A LOT OF TIME IN THIS. AND SO WE JUST KIND OF WANT TO BE HERE AGAIN FOR A
RESOURCE FOR YOU GUYS AS SOME THINGS IN THE MASTER PLAN, WE WANT THAT TO COME TO FRUITION. SO ONE OF OUR THINGS KIND OF THROUGH SOME HOMEGROWN
ORGANIC MARKETING EFFORTS IS SUNUP TO SUNDOWN, AS WE TALKED ABOUT HOW GREAT OUR COMMUNITY IS WITH ALL OF OUR BUSINESSES,
OUR RESTAURANTS, OUR SHOPS THE IDEA OF SUNUP TO SUNDOWN KIND OF CAME TO FRUITION. 
          YOU CAN TRULY SPEND A WHOLE DAY THERE. YOU CAN GO TO THE BAKERY AGRIPINO AND END YOUR
NIGHT AT GULFSHORE PLAYHOUSE. 
          YOU CAN REALLY SPEND THAT WHOLE DAY. SO AS WE KIND OF TALK THROUGH OUR IDEAS,
YOU'LL KIND OF SEE HOW WE'RE TRYING TO BRING THAT TO LIGHT. 
          MURALS IS A GREAT WAY. IT'S A SUSTAINABLE WAY. 
          THAT ONCE YOU PUT THE PAINT ON THE WALLS, IT'S A GREAT WAYFINDING AN OPPORTUNITY FOR
PEOPLE TO KNOW THAT THEY'RE IN THE NAPLES DESIGN DISTRICT. 
          WE HAVE A BUSINESS MEMBER WHO IS ALSO THE PROPERTY OWNER,
GARDEN DISTRICT, WHO IS WILLING TO OFFER BOTH OF THEIR WALLS FOR THIS MURAL. 
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AS YOU GUYS KNOW, WE GET OUR FUNDING THROUGH MEMBERSHIPS OF OUR BUSINESSES,
SO WE HAVE A VERY SMALL BUDGET. 
          SO WE ARE ASKING TODAY TO JUST KIND OF PARTNER THROUGH YOU. WE'VE CREATED SOME COMMUNITY
PARTNERS ALREADY AND SOME SPONSORSHIPS. 
          SO WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR TODAY IS KIND OF TO BALANCE THAT OUT. 
          WE WILL BE GOING TO THE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD. WE'LL GO THROUGH THE RIGHT PROCESSES THROUGH
THIS. 
          BUT WE JUST KIND OF WANTED TO START WITH THE REQUEST FOR FUNDING. 
          SO ONE THING WE KIND OF DREW INSPIRATION FROM IS CORAL GABLES. 
          AND REALLY DOING THAT SUNUP TO SUNDOWN THEMED,
VERY BRIGHT, VERY FLORIDA. 
          YOU CAN KIND OF SEE WHERE THE STAR IS LOCATED. 
          THAT IS THE GARDEN DISTRICT, AND YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE PILOT PROJECT FOR THE DESIGN WALK
IS LOCATED. 
          IT'S NOT IN THE PILOT PROJECT, BUT IT IS IF THE DESIGN WALK EVER COMES TO FRUITION. 
          IT'S WITHIN THOSE WALKING BOUNDARIES. THIS IS THE GARDEN DISTRICT. 
          THESE ARE THE WALLS WE ARE SPEAKING ABOUT. AND AGAIN,
THEY'RE WILLING TO HELP COVER SOME OF THE COST FOR THIS MURAL. 
          WE REACHED OUT TO A FEW ARTISTS. OUR BOARD WAS INVOLVED,
OUR MARKETING TEAM WAS INVOLVED, AND WE KIND OF CAME TO KIND OF THE FIRST DRAFT OF IT. 
          THIS IS DONE BY MARKUS ZOTTER. HE HAS DONE A FEW MURALS HERE IN THE NAPLES DESIGN
DISTRICT. 
          YOU CAN SEE THIS IS ONE SIDE, WHICH IS SUNUP. 
          IT HAS THE NAPLES PIER IN IT. AND IT HAS KIND OF THE CURVE KIND OF REPRESENTING THE CURVE
OF THE GULFSHORE PLAYHOUSE. 
          AND ON THE OTHER SIDE, SIDE IS SUN DOWN AND KIND OF SHOWING HOW YOU CAN END YOUR NIGHT IN
THE NAPLES DESIGN DISTRICT. 
          ANOTHER AVENUE WE WANT TO ASK FOR SUPPORT WITH THE BANNERS. 
          WE WHEN WE PRESENTED IN FRONT OF THE CRA ADVISORY BOARD. 
          I KNOW ONE OF THE MEMBERS. SHE LIVES IN THE DISTRICT,
SHE RUNS IN THE DISTRICT, AND SHE SAYS IT'S A WAY FOR ME TO KNOW I'M IN THE NAPLES DESIGN DISTRICT. WHEN WE ALSO PRESENTED IT, QUESTIONS CAME LIKE,
SHOULD WE FIND A BETTER OPTION? BECAUSE WITH BANNERS, I THINK YOU GUYS ALL KNOW WHEN HURRICANE SEASON COMES,
WE HAVE TO SPEND A THIRD OF OUR BUDGET TO TAKE THEM DOWN AND PUT THEM BACK UP FOR LIABILITY REASONS. SO THIS IS SOMETHING WE STILL WANT TO SUPPORT,
BUT I THINK IN FIVE YEARS, AS WE ADD THOSE WAYFINDING OPPORTUNITIES UP,
THE BANNERS MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT WE PHASE OUT JUST BECAUSE WE DO FEEL LIKE THAT'S A HEAVY COST THAT SHOULDN'T BE PUT ON ANYONE. BUT FOR NOW,
WE THINK IT'S A REALLY GREAT WAY FOR PEOPLE WHEN THEY'RE DRIVING THROUGH THE DISTRICT TO REALLY KNOW THEY'RE HERE. OUR TAGLINE IS ART DESIGN,
SHOP DESIGN, SO WE ALWAYS WANT TO KIND OF INCLUDE THAT IN THE DESIGN. 
          ANOTHER THING IS STREETSCAPE. I KNOW GRADY MINOR IS WORKING ON THE COMPLETE STREETS
PROJECT WITH LAURA ON OUR BOARD AND THE LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT AS WE KIND OF THINK THROUGH IT. YOU KNOW, WE REALLY WANT LANDSCAPING TO ALSO INCLUDE A SENSE OF
PLACE AND TO BE RESILIENT. 
          I KNOW WHEN I FIRST CAME ON AS BOARD PRESIDENT THEY PLANTED SOME LANDSCAPING IN THE NEXT
DAY, IT GOT WASHED OUT BECAUSE OF A STORM. AND WE UNDERSTAND HOW IMPORTANT THESE FUNDS ARE. 
          SO WE WANT TO BE HERE AS A RESOURCE TO SAY, YOU KNOW,
THIS IS WHAT GRADY MINOR IS VERY EDUCATED IN ALL OF THIS, BUT WE WANT TO SIT HERE AS A RESOURCE AND SUPPORT AND BE PART OF THE COMMUNITY TO SAY HOW
WE WOULD LIKE TO NOT ONLY BE PARTLY KNOWLEDGE, BUT JUST COLLABORATE. WE ALSO HAVE ASKED FOR MONUMENT SIGNS THROUGH THIS DESIGN PROCESS. 
          AGAIN, IT'S A NICE PERMANENT WAY THAT DOESN'T NEED TO BE MAINTAINED TOO MUCH FOR PEOPLE. 
          WHEN THEY DRIVE INTO THE DISTRICT TO SEE WHERE THEY'RE LOCATED. 
          THERE'S ANOTHER PHASE TWO THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO IN THE FUTURE BY ADDING STYLIZED
ARTWORK. 
          A LOT OF THIS WOULD BE DONE THROUGH THE COMMUNITY. WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR FUNDS,
WE'RE JUST LOOKING LONG TERM AND HOW WE'RE GOING TO ADD THOSE WAYFINDING BRANDING OPPORTUNITIES TO THE DISTRICT. SO THIS IS KIND OF THE WHOLE MAP VERY QUICKLY JUST KIND OF
SHOWING WHERE WE WOULD LIKE MONUMENT SIGNS, WHERE WE WOULD LIKE THIS ARTWORK TO COME. AND THIS IS A VERY LONG TERM IDEA. 
          BUT AGAIN, WE WOULD LOVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO COLLABORATE WITH GRADY MINOR TO TALK ABOUT
THIS. 
          AND I KNOW KIND OF THE PROJECT THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT TODAY,
I THINK IS KIND OF THAT FRONT YARD PLOT KIND OF THIS GREAT OPPORTUNITY WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO POTENTIALLY TEAR DOWN THE BUILDING,
ADD SOME GREEN SPACE IN A PAVILION. 
          AND I KNOW A HUGE THING WE WOULD LOVE IS THAT MEETING PLACE,
A MEETING PLACE TO HAVE COMMUNITY MEETINGS AND TO TALK, A PLACE THAT WHEN WE HAVE OUR VERY HOMEGROWN EVENTS,
TO HAVE IT AS A CENTRAL LOCATION WHERE EVERYBODY CAN GO. 
          SO WE ARE REALLY IN SUPPORT OF THAT, OF THAT BEING LIKE A CENTRAL COMMUNITY AREA FOR
EVERYBODY FOR OUR PROGRAMING, FOR EVENTS. WE WE LOVE THAT IDEA. AS A BOARD,
WE'VE INVESTED A LOT OF TIME INTO THE MASTER PLAN, INTO THESE IDEAS. AND WE'RE HAPPY TO DO IT. WE KNOW THERE'S SO MANY GREAT IDEAS THROUGH
ALL YOU GUYS HAVE DONE, AND WE'RE HERE TO HELP EXECUTE IT. WE EVEN HAVE SHARON WILLIAMS,
WHO HAS ALREADY COLOR MATCHED OUR COLOR SCHEME AND IS WILLING TO DONATE THE PAINT FOR WHEN 
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WE DO MURALS. SO WE'RE TRYING TO FIND THOSE CREATIVE WAYS TO NOT BE ASKING YOU FOR FUNDS. 
          BUT WE ARE SMALL. WE ONLY HAVE SO MANY BUSINESSES WHO CAN CURRENTLY SUPPORT US. 
          YOU KNOW, I REPRESENT THE COLLECTIVE. WE ARE GOING TO BE SPONSORING AN EVENT AND AN EFFORT
WHERE WE PLACE MAILBOXES WITHIN SHOWROOMS. AND HOW THAT'S GOING TO WORK IS WHEN PEOPLE COME TO ENJOY THE NAPLES DESIGN DISTRICT AND
OUR SMALL BUSINESSES, THEY CAN FILL OUT ONE OF THE POSTCARDS AND SAY HOW THEY ENJOYED THEIR DAY THERE,
WHERE THEY WENT, WHAT THEY EXPERIENCED. THEY PUT IT IN A MAILBOX. 
          WE USE THAT TO SHOW OUR COMMUNITY HOW THE PUBLIC COMES AND ENJOYS US,
AND THEN THEY GET A FREE POSTCARD TO SEND OUT. 
          IT'S JUST THIS KIND OF VERY HOMEGROWN EFFORT AGAIN,
THAT WE'RE DOING BECAUSE WE'RE DOING THE BEST WE CAN WITH SPONSORSHIPS AND COMMUNITY SUPPORT. I KNOW A SCHEDULE IS KIND OF CAN BE IMPORTANT. 
          SO YOU CAN KIND OF SEE HERE, DEPENDING ON HOW EVERYONE FEELS ABOUT THE MURAL,
WE WOULD LIKE TO GO TO THE DRB AND PRESENT IT. 
          WE KNOW IT'S A LONG PROCESS. WE DO. AND WE KNOW IT'S A LARGE APPLICATION FEE,
WHICH WE CAN'T SUPPORT. 
          BUT WE'RE HERE WILLING TO PUT THE HOURS IN TO GO TO THE DRB. 
          WE'RE ALSO WE UNDERSTAND WE NEED THE RIGHT OF WAY PERMIT FOR THE BANNERS. 
          SO YOU GUYS CAN KIND OF SEE THE SCHEDULE HERE. 
          OF WHEN WE WOULD LIKE TO INSTALL THE NEW BANNERS IN MARCH. 
          IF ALL GOES WELL, WE WOULD LOVE TO UNVEIL THE MURALS AT THE END OF SEASON,
BECAUSE WE FEEL IF THIS MURAL IS EXECUTED, WE WOULD LOVE TO DO IT FOR OUR COMMUNITY. IT'S NOT NECESSARILY FOR THE PEOPLE WHO COME
HERE SEASONALLY. 
          IT'S FOR OUR COMMUNITY. SO IF WE'RE ABLE TO GET IT DONE BY THE END OF SEASON,
WE WOULD LOVE TO HOST A BIG CELEBRATION FOR THOSE WHO LIVE HERE, THOSE WHO ARE IN OUR COMMUNITY AND REALLY JUST CELEBRATE EVERYTHING THAT THE DISTRICT
STANDS FOR. 
          SO THIS IS KIND OF OUR OUR BUDGET THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR. 
          IT'S ABOUT $26,000. IT'S ABOUT 9000 TO DO TWO MURALS. 
          WE ARE ASKING FOR A SECOND MURAL TO JUST KEEP THIS GOING. 
          YOU KNOW, WE CAN UNVEIL A WONDERFUL MURAL AND THEN MOVE ON TO THE NEXT JUST TO SHOW THE
BUSINESS MEMBERS WHO HAVE INVESTED SO MUCH TIME IN THIS, THAT WE'RE KEEP GOING, THAT WE'RE DOING WHAT WE CAN WITH THE RESOURCES THAT WE HAVE. 
          AND THEN THE SECOND COST IS THE BANNERS, WHICH IS ABOUT 10,000. 
          I THINK YOU GUYS KNOW IT'S A HEAVY AS I MENTIONED,
IT'S A HEAVY COST TO INSTALL AND UNINSTALL THE BANNERS EVERY HURRICANE SEASON. 
          AND AGAIN, MAYBE EVENTUALLY WE'LL MOVE PAST THAT. 
          BUT WE UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, THE NEEDS. SO WE'RE KIND OF STARTING SMALL. 
          WE'RE DOING THE BEST WE CAN WITH WHAT WE HAVE. 
          WE KNOW IT'S ABOUT 2% OF THE BUDGET THAT'S ALREADY ALLOCATED FOR THE DISTRICT. 
          SO WE'RE JUST HERE. I KNOW THE SIERRA ADVISORY BOARD. 
          WE SPOKE TO THEM. THEY WERE PRETTY SUPPORTIVE OF EVERYTHING. BUT WE'RE HERE. 
          WE'RE HERE TO BE A RESOURCE, YOU KNOW, USE THE TALENTS THAT WE HAVE,
OFFER OURSELVES TO THE COMMUNITY AND REALLY UNITE INTO MOVING FORWARD. 
          BECAUSE WE DO UNDERSTAND STORM DRAINAGE IS VERY IMPORTANT. 
          IT'S VERY IMPORTANT WHEN WE PICK THE PAVERS,
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE PERMEABLE. 
          AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE AS WE GET NEW STORM DRAINAGE THROUGH THE COMPLETE STREETS
PROJECT, THAT WE SUPPORT THE COMMUNITY AROUND US. SO THANK YOU GUYS SO MUCH. 
          AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM. WELL,
THANK YOU FOR AN EXCELLENT PRESENTATION. 
          I'M SURE WE DO HAVE QUESTIONS AND WE'LL OPEN IT UP TO THE BOARD FOR DISCUSSION AND
QUESTIONS. 
          ANYONE KNOW? I HAVE A QUESTION. THE BANNERS. DO YOU FIND THAT THE BANNERS ARE. 
          I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY, YOU WANT TO REPEAT THE BANNERS. 
          YOU FIND THAT THEY ARE BENEFICIAL TO YOU. I DEFINITELY WOULD SAY,
BECAUSE EVEN WHEN WE, LIKE I MENTIONED, TALKED TO I THINK IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT IT'S GOING TO BE NOT A LONG TERM SOLUTION
FOR US. 
          BUT SINCE YOU GUYS HAVE PROVIDED THE INFRASTRUCTURE FOR IT,
THE HURRICANE BRACKETS AND EVERYTHING, I THINK FOR NOW IT'S A GREAT WAY. BUT ONCE MONUMENT SIGNS ARE PUT IN AND YOU KNOW THE AREA
THAT IS GOING TO SPEAK ABOUT, THAT'S A WAY THAT YOU COULD ADD A BIG SIGN THAT SAYS NAPLES DESIGN DISTRICT. 
          I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT COULD BE PHASED OUT. BUT FOR NOW WE HAVE THE BANNERS FROM
2022, THE CENTENNIAL BANNERS, AND WE JUST KIND OF WANT TO REFRESH THEM AND ALSO USE IT AS A TIME
TO HELP EXECUTE THE SUNUP TO SUNDOWN THEME. 
          SO LAST NIGHT THE CHRISTMAS STROLL. CAN YOU JUST TELL ME ABOUT I WAS THERE. 
          OH, GREAT. IT WAS VERY DARK. YES. WE NOTICED. 
          YEAH. SO HOW DID THAT GO? IT WENT WELL. UNFORTUNATELY HALF OF THE LAMPPOST TURNED OFF. 
          SO I'M NOT SURE WHAT HAPPENED. I SAW FPL SHOW UP LATER,
SO IT WAS VERY DARK. 
          AND I KNOW THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN SOMETHING THROUGH THE COMPLETE STREETS PROJECT. WE WOULD
LOVE TO ADD OTHER OPPORTUNITIES FOR LIGHTING, BUT I KNOW IT'S HARD BECAUSE WE HAVE THE AIRPORT CLOSE TO US BECAUSE I. 
          WHEN I FIRST JOINED AS THE BOARD, I WAS ON A MEETING AND THEY WERE LIKE,
WE HAVE LIMITATIONS. 
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SO IT DEFINITELY WAS VERY DARK. AND I KNOW IT'S A HOMEGROWN EVENT,
SO IT'S NOT LIKE WE CAN SPEND TEN GRAND ON LIGHTING. 
          IT'S ONE OF THOSE AND WE HAVE A VERY LONG DISTRICT. 
          IT WAS A SUCCESSFUL EVENT AND WE DEFINITELY HAD A LOT OF PEOPLE COME. 
          I'VE SPOKEN TO SOME OF OUR MEMBERS AND THEY SAID,
A LOT OF THESE PEOPLE COME AND THEY DIDN'T EVEN KNOW THE DISTRICT EXISTED. THEY DIDN'T KNOW I EXISTED, AND THEY'RE COMING BACK. AND THAT'S THE BIGGEST THING. 
          IT'S A VERY HOMEGROWN EVENT. WE GET IT SPONSORED. 
          WE TECHNICALLY DON'T SPEND ANY MONEY ON IT AS A DISTRICT. 
          WE GET IT SPONSORED AND COVERED, AND EVERYBODY SAYS PEOPLE COME BACK AFTER THAT. 
          IT'S JUST THIS LIKE TOUCH POINT FOR PEOPLE TO COME. 
          SO I SAY IT WAS A SUCCESS. SO AT ONE POINT THERE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE CHRISTMAS LIGHTS IN
THAT AREA. 
          DO YOU HAVE AN UPDATE ON THAT AT ALL? CHRISTMAS LIGHTS. 
          I DON'T KNOW ABOUT CHRISTMAS LIGHTS. I KNOW IF THERE ARE ANY. 
          IT'S BUSINESS BY BUSINESS. THANK YOU. VICE MAYOR HUTCHISON. 
          THANK YOU, MISS KURTZ. APPRECIATE THE THE EFFORT AND THE IN YOUR PRESENTATION. 
          I WANTED TO FOLLOW UP ON THE MONUMENT SIGN IDEA. 
          WHEN YOU LOOK THROUGHOUT OUR COMMUNITY, SOME AREAS DO SIGNS REALLY WELL. 
          SOME AREAS HAVE MORE OPPORTUNITY AND IT'S IN MY OPINION,
WE DON'T HAVE A COMPREHENSIVE. 
          IF YOU LOOK AT OUR SIGNS WE DON'T HAVE A THUMB PRINT THAT SAYS,
WOW, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WE CAN SEE WHERE IT'S NOT REDUNDANT. YOU HAVE MONUMENT SIGNS, AND THEN YOU HAVE SIGNS ALL OVER THE BUILDINGS,
AND THEN YOU HAVE SIGNS IN DIFFERENT PLACES. 
          SO I DO BELIEVE THERE'S OPPORTUNITY IN SIGNAGE,
BUT NOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT STRICTLY THE DESIGN DISTRICT. 
          SO ON THESE MONUMENT SIGNS, ARE YOU THINKING OF SOMETHING IN THE WAY OF A NEW
COMPREHENSIVE SIGNAGE PROGRAM? ARE WE TALKING ABOUT AN ADDITION OF MONUMENT SIGNS AND REDUNDANCY OR DUPLICITY ON SIGNS
THAT ARE ON BUILDINGS OR IN FRONT OF BUSINESSES? CAN YOU TALK ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE THINKING WHEN YOU WHEN
YOU SAY MONUMENT SIGNS? SO MONUMENT SIGNS FOR US AND I KNOW SOME OF THIS IS SOMEWHAT INCLUDED IN THE DPC CO DESIGN
MASTER PLAN. 
          AND IF THERE'S EVER AN OPPORTUNITY TO KIND OF HELP AND GET THAT SUPPORT BECAUSE WE DO WANT
IT TO BE COHESIVE. 
          WE DON'T WANT IT TO JUST BE LIKE, WE'RE DOING THIS BECAUSE WE HAVE THE FUNDS FOR IT RIGHT
NOW. WE DO WANT TO PUT A LOT OF INTENTION INTO IT. 
          AND SO IF THAT JUST MEANS, YOU KNOW, A VERY SIMPLE SIGN THAT SAYS NAPLES DESIGN DISTRICT,
AND WE KEEP IT SIMPLE, IT'S ALSO GREAT TO LOOK AT EXAMPLES LIKE THE MIAMI ARTS DISTRICT AND HOW THEY KEEP IT
COHESIVE. 
          AND THEY BECAUSE WE WANT TO CREATE A SENSE OF PLACE. WE JUST DON'T WANT TO SAY NAPLES
DESIGN DISTRICT EVERYWHERE. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, WE'VE TALKED, YOU KNOW, OVER THE YEARS,
LIKE IF WE EVER GOT THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO MONUMENT SIGNS AND WE DO HAVE WE'VE HAD THESE CONVERSATIONS. WE HAVE A BOARD MEMBER WHO'S IN STONE AND HE'S LIKE,
I COULD OFFER THE STONE. 
          WE JUST NEED THINGS TO BE APPROVED. IS IT WOULD HAVE TO BE A COHESIVE MEETING WITH GRADY
MINOR, WITH OTHER PEOPLE AT THE TABLE TO TALK ABOUT HOW CAN WE TRULY EXECUTE THIS? BECAUSE, AGAIN, WE'RE A VOLUNTEER BOARD. YOU KNOW,
I HAVE TWO ENTITIES THAT I COVER. 
          SO WE'RE ALWAYS HERE TO BE LET'S HAVE A MEETING ABOUT IT AND LET'S TALK ABOUT HOW IT CAN
TRULY BE EXECUTED. 
          AND SO WE'RE HAPPY TO COME UP WITH SOME OPTIONS,
ESPECIALLY IF WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO COLLABORATE WITH GRADY MINOR. 
          THAT WOULD BE GOOD. BUT IT REALLY DOES HAVE TO BE INTENTIONAL. IT REALLY DOES BECAUSE YOU
WANT TO MAKE IT OKAY. 
          SO TO BE CLEAR, THIS IS THE IDEA IS A MONUMENT SIGN DEFINING THE DESIGN DISTRICT. 
          SO THIS WOULD BE AROUND THE ENTRY AND EXIT POINTS OF THE DESIGN DISTRICT IN CERTAIN
LOCATIONS, IN CERTAIN LOCATIONS. AND THAT'S WHERE YOU KIND OF BRING GRADY MINOR IN IT,
BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE DRIVEN AROUND THE DISTRICT, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF BLIND SPOTS. SO WE WANT TO BE VERY INTENTIONAL WHERE WE PUT IT TO NOT DISTRACT FROM TRAFFIC OR
WHATEVER IT MAY BE. 
          SO THERE MIGHT BE SOME LOCATIONS THAT MAKE MORE SENSE. 
          BUT IT'S A LOT OF WHEN YOU ENTER THE DISTRICT,
YOU KNOW, YOU'RE IN IT, WHETHER IT'S WHERE THE NAPLES DEPOT IS AND THEY MIGHT HAVE LAND FOR IT. SO WHEN PEOPLE ENTER THE SOUTH END, THEY KNOW WHERE THEY'RE AT. 
          I UNDERSTAND, YEAH. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MISS KURTZ. SO TURNING TO YOU,
MISS JENKINS. 
          THIS IS A PRESENTATION OBVIOUSLY, UPDATING US ON THE DESIGN DISTRICT ASSOCIATIONS HOPES
AND PLANS FOR THE DISTRICT. AND IT'S A REQUEST FOR DOLLARS OUT OF THE DESIGN DISTRICT NAPLES DESIGN DISTRICT IMPROVEMENT. LINE ITEM IN OUR BUDGET THAT WE APPROVED FOR FUNDING
TO PURSUE THESE ITEMS THAT MISS KURTZ HAS JUST DESCRIBED. IS THAT CORRECT? YES. 
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AND THE. ASK IS FOR $26,000 APPROXIMATELY CORRECT TO BE TO BE TAKEN OUT OF THE THE MONEY THAT'S IN THAT LINE ITEM FOR, FOR THESE PURPOSES. 
          YES. AND THE AND THIS WOULD BE TO CONTINUE TO PURSUE THE WORK ON THE MURALS,
THE BANNERS AND. 
          CERTAIN STREETSCAPE IMPROVEMENTS. WHAT ELSE WOULD BE UNDERTAKEN? I KNOW IT'S IN YOUR PRESENTATION, BUT IF YOU COULD JUST SUMMARIZE FOR US AGAIN. 
          YEAH, SO THE 26,000 WOULD INCLUDE TWO PHASES OF MURALS AND THE BANNERS. 
          AND THEN WHEN IT COMES TO MEETING WITH GRANNY MINOR AND KIND OF TALKING ABOUT THE NEXT
STEPS THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING WE WOULD COME AT A LATER DATE FOR. 
          I FEEL LIKE WE'RE TRYING TO COME UP WITH REALISTIC WHAT WE CAN GET DONE AS A VOLUNTEER
BOARD WITH BUDGET CONCERNS, WHATEVER IT MAY BE. WE'RE JUST KIND OF STARTING OUT SMALL,
AND REALLY WE'RE DOING IT SO OUR BUSINESSES CAN STAY EXCITED ABOUT IT. 
          AND SO THE 26 IS MORE ABOUT MURALS AND BANNERS TO KIND OF HELP JUST CREATE THAT
WAYFINDING, THAT BRAND AWARENESS FOR THE DISTRICT. AND I DO WANT TO MENTION TOO,
THAT WE DO WANT TO INVITE YOU GUYS TO WALK THE DISTRICT WITH US IN JANUARY, SO WE'LL SEND THE CITY STAFF A FEW DATES TO KIND OF WALK AROUND SO YOU CAN KIND OF GET A
BETTER IDEA OF WHAT IT'S LIKE WHEN YOU WALK AROUND THE DISTRICT. 
          MAYBE WE WON'T DO IT AT NIGHT, BUT WE'LL DO IT DURING THE DAY. 
          SO WE DO WANT TO EXTEND THAT INVITATION ALSO. 
          AND THE AND THE MURALS WOULD BE DESIGNED AND THEN TAKEN TO DRB FOR APPROVAL. 
          YES. AND SO PART OF THAT BUDGET IS THAT APPLICATION FEE BECAUSE UNFORTUNATELY JUST BECAUSE
WE'RE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A WONDERFUL BUSINESS AND PROPERTY OWNER WHO'S WILLING TO DO IT. WE JUST
DON'T FEEL WE CAN USE THE DISTRICT FUNDS FOR ONE SPECIFIC BUSINESS. 
          SO WE DO NEED HELP WITH THE APPLICATION FEE AND,
AND, AND THE MONEY IN PART WOULD BE TO HELP PAY FOR THE COST OF THE DESIGN AND, AND AND PREPARATION OF THE BAND AND THE INSTALLATION OF THE BANNERS. 
          AND THAT WOULD REQUIRE APPROVAL BY STAFF FOR RIGHT OF WAY PERMITS AND PERHAPS OTHER
THINGS. 
          CORRECT. SO IT'S DEFINITELY A LONG PROCESS. AND WE UNDERSTAND THAT,
YOU KNOW, THE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD, THEY COULD NOT LIKE OUR DESIGN AND WE WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK WITH SOME OTHER IDEAS. 
          SO. AND USUALLY THE BIGGEST COST IS THE ACTUAL INSTALLATION TO PAY THE ARTISTS,
BECAUSE WE DO WANT TO SUPPORT THEM. 
          I'M REALLY JUST TRYING TO GET VERY SPECIFIC AS TO WHAT THE FUNDING WOULD BE USED FOR AND
WHAT THE AND WHAT SORT OF APPROVALS WOULD BE REQUIRED AND BY WHOM. SO YEAH,
THAT'S SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE THE MATTER BEFORE US A REQUEST FOR $26,000 IN FUNDING TO ALLOW THE DESIGN DISTRICT ASSOCIATION TO MOVE FORWARD ON
THOSE TWO FRONTS REGARDING MURALS AND BANNERS. MAYOR HARTMAN,
FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONTINUED DEDICATION TO THIS. 
          BECAUSE I SEE YOUR VISION. BUT THERE'S SEVERAL INCOMPLETE THINGS THAT I'M NOT CLEAR ABOUT
WITH POLICIES AND PUBLIC ART. 
          AND WHETHER WE HAVE MADE A STANDARD OR HAVE MADE THE DISTINCTION OF MURALS IN THE
COMMUNITY OR NOT. SO THAT'S THE FIRST POLICY QUESTION I HAVE. 
          SECOND, I'M NOT PREPARED TO ALLOCATE MONEY INTO ANYTHING AT THIS POINT UNTIL I LOOK AT THE
BUDGET AND UNDERSTAND BETTER WHERE WE'VE DECIDED TO GO WITH THE TOTAL AMOUNT. 
          I THINK GOING FRAGMENTED, EVEN THOUGH IT'S A GREAT IDEA,
I'D LOVE TO DO IT RIGHT NOW. 
          I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE DISCUSSED. 
          WHEN WE LOOK AT THE TOTAL PICTURE OF THE BUDGET WITHIN THE CRA. 
          ALL RIGHT. OKAY. MEMBER PETRANOFF. THANK YOU. 
          AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. IT IS EXCITING WHAT YOU'RE WHAT YOU'RE DOING. 
          HOWEVER, WE WE WOULD BE REMISS IF WE DIDN'T PAY ATTENTION TO THE SPEAKERS THAT WE HAD THIS
MORNING. 
          AND YOU KNOW, THERE ARE SEVERAL DIFFERENT AREAS WITHIN THE CRA THAT OF POSSIBLE
INVESTMENTS. 
          AND THERE'S A LOT OF CAPITAL INVESTMENTS THAT ARE UNDERWAY. 
          THEY'RE ALL WORTHY PROJECTS FROM THE BANNERS TO TO INFRASTRUCTURE. 
          BUT WE'RE COMPETING OVER LIMITED CRA DOLLARS. 
          THAT'S THAT'S THE THE RUB THAT THAT I AM STRUGGLING WITH AND I'M SURE MY COMPADRES ARE
STRUGGLING WITH AS WELL. 
          BUT I THINK WE'RE NIMBLE. WE'RE WE'RE LIKE FLORIDA PANTHERS. 
          WE CAN YOU KNOW, AND I THINK THAT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT NEW DATA AS IT COMES IN. 
          AND THE NEW DATA IS WE'VE HAD THESE HURRICANES,
PEOPLE HAVE BEEN FLOODED. 
          AND I THINK WE NEED TO RELOOK AT THIS. AND GIVEN THE RECENT CHANGE IN LEADERSHIP WITH
DOCTOR GEORGE TAKING THE REINS AS OUR RESILIENCY CZAR 
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AND RECOGNIZING THE SERIOUS FLOODING IN AGING INFRASTRUCTURES OF OUR RIVER PARK EAST
COMMUNITY I WANT TO I PERSONALLY WANT TO RELOOK AT HOW WE HAVE SEQUENCED THESE PROJECTS IN OUR BUDGET AND IN PARTICULAR THE FIVE YEAR CIP. 
          WE ALL RECOGNIZE THAT CRA FUNDS SHOULD BE PRIORITIZED TO STRENGTHEN COMMUNITIES LIKE RIVER
PARK EAST. 
          AND THEN GIVEN THAT WE'VE NOT MADE THE COMMUNITY A PRIORITY IN THE PAST,
AND, YOU KNOW, WE ALL ON THE DAIS CAN'T FIX PAST SINS, BUT WE CAN FIX IT GOING FORWARD. AND GIVEN THE CONSIDERABLE RISKS TO OUR RESIDENTS HOMES
AND SAFETY, I PROPOSE THAT WE REORDER THE PRIORITIES IN THE CRA BUDGET,
INCLUDING THE OUTER YEARS AND THE CIP. 
          AND THIS DOESN'T MEAN THROWING AWAY WORK THAT WE'VE ALREADY DONE,
BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT ANYWAY. 
          OR THE DOLLARS THAT WE HAVE SPENT ON THIS PLANNING,
THESE PLANNING. 
          BUT IT MEANS REORDERING THE PROJECTS COMPLETED AND PROACTIVELY MAKING THE DECISIONS TO
DEFER SOME OF THESE PROJECTS. 
          IT'S ABOUT MAKING THE TOUGH DECISIONS THAT WE'RE PAID FOR AS CREW MEMBERS AND CITY COUNCIL
MEMBERS TO PUT THE RESIDENTS AND RESIDENTS HOMES AND THEIR HEALTH AND SAFETY AS OUR TOP PRIORITY. I WOULD,
FOR ONE, WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THE MOTION TO REORDER THE TIMING OF OUR CRA PLANNED EXPENDITURES INCLUDING DEFERRING THE 18.5 MILLION FOR FIRST,
SECOND AND 10TH OR 12TH AND 10TH 7.7 ON DEFERRAL ON THE DESIGN DISTRICT IMPROVEMENTS, AND 8 MILLION IN AFFORDABLE HOUSING,
LAND AND PARKING LAID OUT IN THE FIVE YEAR CIP. 
          AND IN ORDER TO FUND DOCTOR GEORGE'S PERMANENT RIVER PARK EAST RESILIENCY SOLUTION,
IT'S A SOLUTION THAT PROTECTS OUR MOST VALUABLE RESIDENTS IN OUR IN OUR CITY. WE'RE LIVING IN A COMMUNITY THAT CRA FUNDS ARE MEANT TO COVER AS A CRA
LEGISLATIVE GOALS. 
          I WANT TO BE ABLE TO GO OFF OF COUNCIL IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS AND BE PROUD OF WHAT WE'VE
DONE, AND BE ABLE TO BE NIMBLE ENOUGH TO SHIFT AND MAKE THE RIGHT DECISIONS. 
          FINALLY, FOR THIS COMMUNITY, AFTER 25 YEARS OF OF THE CRA EXISTENCE. 
          SO I AM MAKING A MOTION TO TO CHANGE THOSE FUNDS AS LIKE I JUST SAID,
I DON'T KNOW IF I HAVE A SECOND SECOND. 
          SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND COULD YOU RESTATE THE MOTION,
PLEASE. 
          OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THE MOTION IS THIS THAT WE REORDER THE TIMING OF THE CRA PLAN TO SPENDING
IN THE BUDGET. 
          THIS INCLUDES DEFERRING THE 18.5 MILLION ON FIRST,
12TH AND 10TH, 7.7 MILLION OF DESIGN DISTRICT IMPROVEMENTS AND 8 MILLION IN AFFORDABLE HOUSING, LAND AND PARKING LAID OUT IN THE FIVE YEAR CIP TO FUND DOCTOR GEORGE'S. 
          NOW THAT WE FINALLY HAVE A CZAR HIS PERMANENT RIVER PARK EAST RESILIENCY SOLUTION,
IT'S A SOLUTION THAT PROTECTS OUR MOST VALUABLE RESIDENTS IN THE CITY. 
          WE ARE LIVING IN A COMMUNITY THAT CRA FUNDS ARE MEANT TO COVER AS THE CRA LEGISLATIVE
GOAL. 
          MR. CHAIRMAN. MR. CHAIRMAN, CAN I. YES, MR. CHAIRMAN. 
          THE ONLY THING IS BECAUSE THIS ISN'T AN AGENDA ITEM AND YOU'RE NOT,
IT WOULD BE DIRECTING STAFF TO DO TO BRING SOMETHING BACK TO YOU. 
          AND I THINK WE SHOULD PRESENT WHAT DOC GEORGE'S RECOMMENDATIONS ARE. 
          WE DON'T HAVE THAT BEFORE YOU. AND WHILE I'VE HAD CURSORY CONVERSATIONS WITH IT,
I'M SITTING HERE UNCLEAR MYSELF WHAT THAT ACTUALLY MEANS. 
          AND SO WHILE IT CAN BE A CONSENSUS AND DIRECTION FOR STAFF TO BRING THAT BACK TO YOU AND
WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE AND WHAT THOSE FINANCIAL NEEDS ARE, I WAS I'M SORRY. I JUST BELIEVE IF IT IS MY CHARGE TO I NEED TO HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING OF
WHAT IT IS THAT YOU'VE JUST SAID. 
          THAT IS EVEN THE PLAN TO BE DEVELOPED. AND SO I SAY THAT WITH THE MOST UP,
YOU KNOW, MUCH RESPECT. 
          BUT DIRECTING THE FUNDS IS, IS THAT DOES IT COME WITH THAT AS AN EXPECTATION OF
DELIVERANCE. 
          AND I DON'T EVEN KNOW THE TIMING OF IT. THAT'S NOTHING'S DESIGNED. 
          SO I ONLY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT BECAUSE YOU ALSO HAVE ANOTHER WINDOW HERE. 
          I'M SORRY. I'M GOING TO PLAY FINANCE DIRECTOR HERE FOR A MOMENT. 
          BUT YOU HAVE AN OBLIGATION UNDER THE CRA. IF YOU CANNOT SPEND IT WITHIN TWO,
TWO YEARS, YOU MUST RETURN IT. 
          AND SO TO I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE DESIGN TIME IS GOING TO TALK ABOUT,
AND IT HAS TO BE EARMARKED FOR A SPECIFIC PROJECT OR IT MUST BE RETURNED. 
          AND SO I'M JUST ASKING FOR A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION BEFORE YOU SAY THAT EVERYTHING
ELSE IS OFF THE TABLE, BECAUSE IF WE CAN'T DELIVER ON WHAT THAT IS IN A TWO YEAR PERIOD,
AND AS WE KNOW, ENGINEERING IN MOST CASES TAKE 12 TO 18 MONTHS. 
          SO I'M JUST ASKING YOU TO TO UNDERSTAND THAT TIMETABLE BEFORE YOU DELIBERATE AND AND I'LL
LEAVE IT AT THAT. 
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SO THANK YOU. WELL, WE CAN WAIT FOR THAT. BUT AS A POLICY DECISION,
I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO HAVE A POLICY WHERE RIVER PARK EAST INVESTMENTS COME FIRST AND THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT IS JUST A POLICY DECISION THAT WE GET TO MAKE. 
          I WASN'T TRYING TO INTERJECT MYSELF IN YOUR POLICY. 
          WHAT YOU SAID WAS TO REMOVE ALL OF THE BUDGET LINE ITEMS AND WAIT TILL THAT CAN BE PUT IN
PLACE. 
          IF IT CANNOT BE PLACED, PUT IN PLACE WITHIN A TWO YEAR PERIOD,
AND CONSTRUCTED AND SPENT AND OBLIGATED ON A PROJECT, IT COULD END UP BEING RETURNED TO THE COUNTY. 
          ALL I WAS ASKING FOR WAS A LITTLE TIME TO HAVE AS A COURTESY,
SINCE THERE WAS NO CONVERSATION BEFOREHAND TO SAY WHAT THAT THAT, THAT THAT PROJECT SCHEDULE LOOKS LIKE SO THAT YOU'RE NOT RETURNING MONIES THAT COULD
OTHERWISE BEEN USED IN THE DISTRICT. 
          I WASN'T ASKING FOR ANYTHING MORE THAN THAT,
MA'AM. 
          I'M NOT TRYING TO CONTROL YOUR CONVERSATION OR YOUR PRIORITIES. 
          OKAY. THAT'S GREAT. THAT'S GREAT. I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. 
          YOU KNOW, I'VE SAT DOWN WITH DOCTOR GEORGE AND WENT THROUGH THE PLAN. 
          SO I LOOK FORWARD TO IT. BUT I WOULD LIKE FOR US AS AT LEAST TO GET A CONSENSUS THAT WE
WILL WE ARE GOING TO REPRIORITIZE OR WE PLAN TO REPRIORITIZE TO PUT RIVER PARK EAST AND THE RESIDENTS AND HEALTH AND SAFETY AS A FIRST
PRIORITY. 
          HOWEVER, THAT TRICKLES DOWN. IF THERE'S MONEY LEFT OVER,
WE CAN SPEND AND IT'S GOING TO GO AWAY, THEN WE CAN SPEND IT ON OTHER THINGS. BUT I WOULD DEFER TO DOCTOR GEORGE ON WHAT HE CAN
DELIVER. 
          VICE CHAIR THE THE NEW HEAD OF CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE,
DOCTOR GEORGE. 
          EXACTLY. I SUPPORT YOU 100%. I DON'T THINK WE'RE PREPARED NECESSARILY TODAY TO MAKE GOOD,
COGENT DECISIONS SINCE THIS IS RATHER NEW ON OUR DOORSTEP. I WOULD SUGGEST WE HAVE A SPECIAL SESSION DIRECTED DIRECTLY AT
WHAT YOU JUST PROPOSED AS TO HOW WE'RE GOING TO SPEND CRA MONEY FOR THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS. COULD WE GET A CONSENSUS THEN ON. 
          THANK YOU. CAN WE GET A CONSENSUS THEN THAT WE ARE GOING TO USE THE FUNNEL,
A NEW FUNNEL WHERE IT PLACES RIVER PARK EAST, HEALTH AND SAFETY RESIDENTS AS A FIRST PRIORITY? CERTAINLY I WOULD SUPPORT THAT. OKAY. I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE REST OF MY COLLEAGUES. 
          I SUPPORT IT. SAME HERE. WE'VE GOT WE'VE GOT THE VOTES WE NEED. 
          WE HAVE UNANIMITY. OKAY, GREAT. AND I DO WANT TO JUST SAY I DO SUPPORT THAT. 
          IT'S I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND. AND I KNOW STORM DRAINAGE AND JUST SAFETY IS SO IMPORTANT. 
          SO PLEASE USE US AS A RESOURCE. THANK YOU. YOU GUYS KNOW WE HAVE SPACE IF YOU EVER NEED A
MEETING MORE FOR LIKE A WORKSHOP AND STUFF THAT YOU GUYS HAVE USED BEFORE. 
          SO PLEASE KNOW THAT THAT WE'RE HERE. YOU KNOW,
WE WANTED TO PRESENT WHAT WE PREPARED, BUT, YOU KNOW, AFTER HEARING EVERYTHING, LIKE, OUR HEARTS ARE REALLY THERE. AND SO,
YOU KNOW, WE'RE DOING WHAT WE WANT FOR OUR SMALL OR DOING WHAT WE WISH WE COULD DO BEST FOR OUR SMALL BUSINESSES. BUT, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE NEED TO WORK IN THOSE BUSINESSES TOO. 
          SO WE TOTALLY UNDERSTAND. AND WE'RE HERE DOING OUR JOB,
BUT ALSO WANTING TO JUST FURTHER UNITE IN ALL OF THIS. 
          SO THANK YOU GUYS. THANKS VERY MUCH AND GOOD COMMENTS. 
          MR. YOUNG I LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING WHAT YOUR PLAN IS. 
          WE WERE WE GOT A SNEAK PEEK OF IT, AND WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT SOME OF THE BEST PRACTICES
HE'S BRINGING OVER FROM THE COUNTY. 
          AND I THINK THEY COULD EASILY APPLY TO THE RESIDENTIAL AREAS THAT HAVE BEEN HIT SO HARD BY
IAN AND MILTON. 
          AND I THINK ONE OF OUR BIG MISSIONS, TOO, IS RESILIENCY. 
          AND IF WE CAN BE AN EDUCATIONAL PART OF THAT,
YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THE STUDIO WHERE WE CAN EVEN STAGE EDUCATIONAL PIECES. 
          SO IF THERE'S SOMETHING WE CAN HELP MOVE ALONG WITH RESILIENCY,
PLEASE LET US KNOW. 
          YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO DO MORE THAN MARKETING AND EVENTS. 
          SO THANK YOU GUYS SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. YOU'RE GOOD NEIGHBORS. QUESTION. MR. KURTZ. YES, PLEASE. MISS KURTZ, ARE YOU. DO YOU STILL EXPERIENCE FLOODING IN FRONT OF YOUR
BUILDING? YES, I WOULD DEFINITELY SAY IAN WAS A WHOLE DIFFERENT STORY. 
          BUT DURING MILTON WE DID HAVE TO PREPARE A LOT,
AND WE STILL GOT SOME FLOODING. 
          YEAH. OKAY. THANK YOU. SO. YES. SO OUR WHOLE AREA IS STILL AS MORE THINGS DEVELOP,
YOU KNOW, WE DO FEEL LIKE WE'RE. OUR LOCATION IS BECAUSE WE WERE BUILT FIVE YEARS AGO. 
          YEAH, WE WE STILL EXPERIENCE IT. WHAT GOT ME WAS THE GRANDCHILD ON THE SHOULDERS OF MR. WHITAKER. AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW,
WE ARE A WEALTHY COMMUNITY WITH LOTS OF RESOURCES. 
          IT SHOULDN'T BE HAPPENING IN OUR CITY. YEAH. SO THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, MISS KIRK. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OF COURSE. 
          SO JUST TO RECAP WHAT WAS JUST AGREED TO BY CONSENSUS. 
          WE WILL FIRST OF ALL, HERE UNDER ITEM EIGHT C. 
          SEE A PRESENTATION BY MR. BY DOCTOR GEORGE REGARDING RESILIENCY PLANNING EFFORTS, 
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STORMWATER IMPROVEMENT EFFORTS IN IN RIVER PARK EAST. 
          AND WE CAN HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT AND WE WILL AT A FUTURE MEETING,
REVISIT OUR CURRENT YEAR BUDGET TO LOOK AT WHETHER AND HOW WE WISH TO MAKE MODIFICATIONS TO THAT BUDGET IN LIGHT OF A PRIORITIZATION OF RIVER PARK PROJECTS AND AND,
AND AND THEN HOW OTHER PROJECTS IN THAT BUDGET, OTHER LINE ITEMS IN THAT BUDGET MAY BE AFFECTED BY THAT. 
          IS THAT A FAIR SUMMARY? SHOULD THERE BE A MOTION AT ANY TIME THAT WE ALL AGREE TO RELATIVE
TO WHAT YOU JUST STATED, I THINK. ALL RIGHT. WELL,
I'D BE GLAD. 
          I'D BE GLAD TO MAKE THAT MOTION. SECOND. OKAY. 
          I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. AND EVERYBODY UNDERSTAND WHAT THE MOTION IS. 
          YEAH. THE THE MOTION VERY SIMPLY IS THAT BASED ON INFORMATION AND THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE
RECEIVING FROM DOCTOR GEORGE REGARDING RESILIENCY PLANNING AND INVESTMENT IN RIVER PARK,
WE WILL, AT A FUTURE MEETING, REVISIT THE CURRENT YEAR CRA BUDGET AND LOOK AT APPROPRIATE MODIFICATIONS TO THAT BUDGET
WITH PRIORITIZATION FOR RIVER PARK EAST. AND AND ALSO I WOULD JUST ADD,
BECAUSE I THINK WHAT MR. YOUNG'S COMMENTS, ARE VERY IMPORTANT TO DO SO IN A WAY THAT WE CAN AS WE MAKE
MODIFICATIONS TO THE BUDGET, KNOW THAT WE CAN SPEND THAT MONEY PROPERLY AND WITHIN THE APPROPRIATE TIMELINE AND MEET
STATE REQUIREMENTS. 
          CAN. MR. CHAIR, I THINK WE SHOULD BE PREPARED TO HAVE SOME EXTRA MEETINGS. 
          AS WE ALL KNOW, PERMITTING CAN CAN GO GLACIALLY SLOWLY. 
          SO WE COULD SIT UP HERE AND MAKE ALL THE RECOMMENDATIONS AND PASS ALL THE,
THE PLANS THAT WE POSSIBLY COULD, BUT WE NEED TO MOVE ALONG WITH GREAT ALACRITY HERE BECAUSE THE PERMITTING PART OF THAT
PROCESS WILL GO SLOWLY COME HELL OR HIGH WATER. 
          SO WE NEED TO BE MAKING DECISIONS VERY QUICKLY UP HERE. 
          IN MY OPINION. WE CAN I'LL TALK TO STAFF AND WE WILL REVISIT WHAT THE CALENDAR IS FOR THE
FIRST QUARTER OF NEXT YEAR. AND AND IF NECESSARY LOOK TO SCHEDULE SOME ADDITIONAL MEETINGS BASED ON THE
AVAILABILITY OF THE BOARD. NOT MUCH IS HAPPENING IN THE NEXT TWO MONTHS,
OTHERWISE. 
          SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. MOTION BY BY MYSELF AND A SECOND FROM VICE CHAIR PENMAN. 
          MADAM CLERK, WOULD YOU CALL THE ROLL? MEMBER. 
          BARTON. YES. MAYOR. HARTMAN. YES. VICE MAYOR HUTCHINSON. 
          YES. MEMBER. CRAMER. YES. VICE CHAIR. PENMAN. 
          YES. MEMBER. PETRANOFF. YES. CHAIR. CHRISMAN. 
          YES. MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU. OKAY. 
          [8.B) Discussion and Direction on the 170 10th St Property Conceptual Designs.]
WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM EIGHT B UNDER OLD BUSINESS,
WHICH IS A DISCUSSION AND DIRECTION ON THE 170 10TH STREET PROPERTY CONCEPTUAL DESIGNS. 
          THIS IS A CONTINUATION FROM OUR DISCUSSIONS IN RECENT MEETINGS AND MISS JENKINS. 
          THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. THIS ITEM IS TO BRING FORWARD YOUR DIRECTION FROM YOUR LAST MEETING. 
          THE AGENDA MEMORANDUM THAT YOU HAVE OUTLINES THE FULL HISTORY OF THIS PROPERTY. 
          AND WHEN WE GET DOWN TO THE BOTTOM OF PAGE TWO,
WE TALK ABOUT YOUR LAST DIRECTION FROM AUGUST 28TH. 
          YOU DISCUSSED SELLING THE PROPERTY, AND BY CONSENSUS,
THIS BOARD DECIDED NOT TO SELL THE PROPERTY AT THIS TIME. 
          AND BY CONSENSUS, YOU ALSO DIRECTED STAFF TO BRING BACK ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ON USING
THIS PROPERTY FOR OPEN SPACE, STORMWATER MANAGEMENT AND PARKING. AND FOLLOWING THAT DIRECTION,
WE DID REACH OUT TO OUR CONSULTANT, GRADY MINOR, TO PREPARE SOME CONCEPTUAL DESIGNS TO SHOW YOU THE SCALE OF WHAT THAT MIGHT
LOOK LIKE IN THE OPTIONS. 
          I WANT TO MENTION THAT THE CONCEPTUAL DESIGNS ARE NOT FINAL DESIGNS. 
          THEY ARE INTENDED TO SHOW YOU IF YOU DID A PUMP STATION IN THE FUTURE,
HOW BIG IS THAT AND HOW DOES IT FIT ON THE PROPERTY? IF YOU DID A SHELTER, HOW DOES THAT FIT ON THE PROPERTY? SO WHAT YOU SEE ON HERE IS AGAIN, CONCEPTUAL. 
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IT'S NOT FINAL AND NOT INTENDED TO BE FINAL. BUT AGAIN,
JUST TO SHOW YOU HOW IT MIGHT WORK IF YOU WANTED TO GO FORWARD WITH BOTH OPEN SPACE AND PARKING. AND WE'LL GO THROUGH THESE CONCEPTUAL DESIGNS TO DISCUSS THEM. 
          TALK ABOUT THE AMOUNT OF OPEN SPACE AND PARKING THAT IS ACHIEVED AT EACH ONE. 
          AND THEN FOLLOWING YOUR DISCUSSION, ANY DIRECTION WE CAN HELP PROVIDE ADDITIONAL
INFORMATION OF OF WHAT THE NEXT STEPS WOULD BE. 
          SO WITH THAT WHAT YOU HAVE ON THE SCREEN BEFORE YOU IS A LOCATION MAP,
AND THIS IS INTENDED TO SHOW YOU BOTH THE SUBJECT PARCEL AND WHAT'S SURROUNDING IT. BECAUSE ANYTHING THAT THAT IS DEVELOPED ON THIS
PROPERTY, WE NEED TO CONSIDER COMPATIBILITY WITH BOTH THE SURROUNDING RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES AND THE
ABUTTING COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES AS WELL. 
          SO THE SERVICE AREA OF THIS PROPERTY, THE FIRST CONCEPTUAL PLAN IS LABELED,
AND I LABELED IT A LITTLE BIT LARGER. SO WE COULD ALL KEEP ON THE SAME PAGE AS THIS ONE IS ONE
A. 
          THIS SHOWS YOU THE MAJORITY OF THE PROPERTY BEING KEPT IN OPEN SPACE. 
          THE POTENTIAL SCALE OF ANY KIND OF COVERED AREA THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO HAVE. 
          IT ALSO SHOWS YOU IF YOU WERE TO HAVE A PUMP STATION UP HERE IN THE TOP CORNER WHAT THE WHAT THE SCALE OF THAT WOULD BE IF IT WOULD BE NEEDED IN THE FUTURE. 
          ALSO, SOME ADDITIONAL STORMWATER MANAGEMENT AND THE BURNED AREA. 
          BACK ON THE EASTERN HALF OF THE PROPERTY. AND THEN THIS CONCEPTUAL DESIGN PROVIDES FOR
JUST ONE LEVEL OF PARKING. 
          SO SO THAT IS IS ONE CONCEPT. THE SECOND CONCEPT OF THIS IS IS HIGHLY CONCEPTUALIZED. 
          SO, SO IT'S IT'S EASIER TO SEE ON THIS ONE WHAT THAT MIGHT LOOK LIKE,
BUT IT IS STILL DEMONSTRATING THE STILL ONE A THE SECOND ONE, TWO A DOUBLES THE AMOUNT OF PARKING. 
          BUT IT STILL MAINTAINS THE POSSIBILITY FOR ADDITIONAL STORMWATER MANAGEMENT. 
          FUTURE PUMP STATION, IF NEEDED. AND ADDITIONAL AMENITIES IF THE THE BOARD WOULD LIKE TO
SEE THAT IN THE FUTURE. 
          AND THIS ILLUSTRATES THAT IN A HIGHER LEVEL OF WHAT THAT MIGHT LOOK LIKE. 
          THE NEXT 11B FLIPS THIS. SO. SO WE LOOK AT THE OPEN SPACE STREET FRONTING ON 10TH STREET
OR PARKING STREET FRONTING ON 10TH STREET. THIS ONE B FRONTS THE OPEN SPACE ON 10TH STREET. 
          AND THE PARKING IS THEN IN THE BACK. SO THIS JUST FLIPS THAT ONE A FOR FOR YOU TO SEE. 
          AND MAINTAINS A SIMILAR AMOUNT OF, OF PARKING IN THE AREA. 
          THIS IS THE HIGHER ILLUSTRATION OF THAT CONCEPT AND WHAT THAT MIGHT LOOK LIKE. 
          TO BE THEN FLIPS ONE A OR TWO A AND PUTS THE PARKING IN THE BACK. 
          SO THE, THE PEDESTRIAN AND THE STREET HAS THE ENJOYMENT OF THE OPEN SPACE,
BUT YOU CAN STILL MAINTAIN THE FUTURE STORMWATER PROVISIONS IN THIS ONE AND A FUTURE AMENITY IF YOU WOULD CHOOSE TO DO THAT. 
          AND THIS IS JUST A HIGHER ILLUSTRATION OF THAT. 
          SO OF THESE PLANS YOU CAN ACCOMMODATE UP FROM 14 TO 31 PARKING SPACES. 
          SO IF YOU'RE GOING WITH ONE ROW OF PARKING IT'S ABOUT 14 SPACES. 
          IF YOU'RE DOUBLING THAT PARKING, IT'S ABOUT 31 SPACES. 
          SO IF YOU COULD IMAGINE IF YOU DECIDE WE WANTED ALL PARKING THEN,
THEN WE WOULD JUST PROBABLY DOUBLE DOUBLE THAT SO YOU COULD ACHIEVE, YOU KNOW, SOMEWHERE IN THE RANGE OF 60 IF YOU WOULD DECIDE JUST TO GO TO PARKING THE TOTAL
AREA OF OPEN SPACE IN THE RANGE OF THE A'S AND THE BEES HERE IS FROM ABOUT 58 TO 78% OF THE AREA FOR PARKING. 
          SO EVEN WITH ONE LEVEL OF PARKING, YOU'RE STILL ACHIEVING MORE THAN HALF OF THE SPACE AS
OPEN SPACE IN THIS AREA. 
          SO THESE ARE CONCEPTUAL AND STAFF IS ASKING FOR YOUR DISCUSSION OF THESE CONCEPTS. 
          AND IF IF YOU HAVE ANY DIRECTION TO PROVIDE US THAT DIRECTION,
AND THEN WITH ANY DIRECTION, AGAIN, WE'LL HELP WITH THE NEXT STEPS. OKAY. AND JUST TO PROVIDE SOME FURTHER CONTEXT FOR
THIS DISCUSSION. 
          REMIND US THAT WE HAVE WE'VE HAD SEVERAL DISCUSSIONS OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS SINCE
WE HAVE PURCHASED THIS PROPERTY AND LOOKED 
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AT IT FROM THE STANDPOINT INITIALLY OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING. 
          AND AS THE DISCUSSION CONTINUED OUR MOST RECENT CONSENSUS OR DECISION WAS THAT WE WANTED
TO AT LEAST AT THIS TIME, CONTINUE TO OWN THE PROPERTY AND FIND BENEFICIAL USES FOR IT ON AN
INTERIM BASIS. 
          AND KEEPING IN MIND THAT FOR THE IF YOU GO BACK TO THE DESIGN DISTRICT MASTER PLAN,
AND FOR THAT MATTER, THE OVERALL CRA PLAN AND UPDATED OBJECTIVES THAT WE DO EACH YEAR. 
          YOU KNOW, THERE IN MY MIND, ANYWAY, FOUR MAJOR GOALS THAT WE HAVE FOR THE AREA. 
          ONE IS INFRASTRUCTURE, INVESTMENT, RESILIENCY,
WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT, STORMWATER IMPROVEMENTS. 
          THE SECOND IS NO PARTICULAR ORDER IS PARKING. 
          THIRD IS OPEN SPACE AND GREEN SPACE, AND THE FOURTH IS AFFORDABLE HOUSING. 
          AND WHAT WE HAVE HERE ARE IN, IN THESE DESIGN OPTIONS IS IN MY MIND. 
          ANYWAY YOU'RE UTILIZING THIS SITE IN A WAY THAT HELPS US FROM A RESILIENCY STANDPOINT, HELPS US FROM A PARKING STANDPOINT,
AND HELPS US FROM A GREEN SPACE OR OPEN SPACE STANDPOINT. 
          SO I THINK THE QUESTION BEFORE US TODAY IS NOT JUST TO DETERMINE WHICH OF THESE DESIGN
OPTIONS WE PREFER, BUT ARE WE PREPARED TO GO FORWARD, AS WE HAVE SAID IN THE PAST,
TO IMPLEMENT THIS PROJECT, ONCE WE HAVE A DESIGN OPTION THAT WE'RE THAT A MAJORITY OF US ARE COMFORTABLE WITH. 
          SO WITH THAT, I'LL OPEN UP FOR DISCUSSION. I THINK I SAW MISS PETROV'S HAND FIRST. 
          THANK YOU. JUST GIVEN THE DIRECTION THAT WE JUST SET WHERE WE'RE RIVER PARK,
EAST COMES FIRST. 
          THERE'S ALL THESE INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS ARE REALLY EXPENSIVE,
AND WE ARE. 
          WE'RE GETTING ANOTHER PROJECT THROWN IN THE MIX. 
          THAT AND I APPRECIATE IT BECAUSE THIS IS THE DIRECTION WE GAVE. 
          THESE ARE VERY GOOD DESIGN ITEMS. BUT I WOULD PROPOSE THAT WE RELOOK AT PERHAPS SELLING
THIS PROPERTY AND PLOWING THOSE FUNDS INTO RESILIENCY EFFORTS, UPDATING THE INFRASTRUCTURE WITH THE FOCUS ON RIVER PARK EAST AND NOT DOING THIS. 
          OKAY. THANK YOU. MAYOR HEITMAN I, I JUST WANT TO REMIND US OR CLARIFY THE RECORD,
THAT THE ONLY REASON WE DECIDED NOT TO SELL THIS PROPERTY AT THAT TIME WAS THAT WE WOULD POSSIBLY TAKE A LOSS ON THAT
PROPERTY. 
          SO THAT WAS ONE REASON WHY WE HAD CHOSEN TO RETAIN IT,
BECAUSE WE DIDN'T WANT TO TAKE A LOSS. 
          SO I WOULD ADD TO THAT YOU'RE YOU'RE CORRECT. 
          THAT WAS A REASON. BUT I WOULD ADD ANOTHER ISSUE THAT CAME UP IN OUR DISCUSSIONS WAS THAT
THIS PROPERTY COULD BE A VERY STRATEGICALLY IMPORTANT PROPERTY FROM THE STANDPOINT OF RESILIENCY. 
          STORMWATER FLOOD PROTECTION, WITH ITS NOT ONLY BEING SERVING AS GREEN SPACE FOR THE AREA, BUT ALSO AS A LOCATION FOR A PUMP STATION,
WHICH IS ALWAYS A CHALLENGING ALWAYS CHALLENGING TO FIND. 
          SO THERE WERE THERE WERE ADDITIONAL REASONS. SO THE SECOND PIECE WAS I THINK WE WERE LEFT
WITH A QUESTION ON WHETHER THERE WAS AN ENVIRONMENTAL STUDY DONE ON THIS PROPERTY WHEN WE PURCHASED IT. 
          AND IF, IF I RECALL, AND I DON'T REMEMBER GETTING THE ANSWER TO THAT. 
          YES. THERE WAS A PHASE ONE ENVIRONMENTAL STUDY DONE. 
          AND IN THAT REPORT THERE WAS NOT A RECOMMENDATION FOR PHASE TWO AT THE TIME OF THE REPORT. 
          THEY DID NOT THEY DID NOT FIND ANY EVIDENCE TO RECOMMEND A PHASE TWO. 
          SO WE DO HAVE A PHASE ONE. WHEN THE PROPERTY WAS PURCHASED A PHASE 2ND MAY MAY COME IN AT
YOUR DIRECTION. 
          RIGHT. I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT A I MEAN. YOU NEED TO CLARIFY FOR ME WHAT A PHASE ONE
VERSUS PHASE TWO. 
          I'M LOOKING FOR BECAUSE IT WAS A MECHANICAL FACILITY AND OIL,
WHETHER THOSE THAT HAS CONTAMINATED THE AREA. DO YOU HAVE TO GO TO PHASE TWO TO DETERMINE THAT? SO SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DID WITH THE THE GARAGE,
THE FIRST AVENUE PARKING GARAGE AT THE TIME OF PREPARING THAT LOT FOR CONSTRUCTION, IT WAS FOUND THAT THERE WERE SOME THINGS BURIED. 
          AND AT THAT TIME WE HAD EVIDENCE TO GO FOR A PHASE TWO. 
          SO UNTIL THE BUILDING WAS DEMOLISHED OR THERE WAS SOME ACTIVITY DONE ON THE PROPERTY,
WE WOULDN'T HAVE ANY ABILITY TO DO A PHASE TWO 
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WITH THE BUILDING STILL THERE ON THE PROPERTY. 
          THE SITE WOULD BE CLEANED. AND THEN YOU WOULD GO TO A PHASE TWO IF NECESSARY. 
          OKAY. VICE CHAIR. PENMAN I WONDER IF WE COULD LOOK AT,
YOU KNOW, SORT OF HALF A LOAF HERE. 
          I DO THINK THAT IF WE PUT IN THE PROPOSED DRAINAGE SYSTEM THAT WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER,
THAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO SPARE SOME PROPERTIES HERE. 
          AND I THINK THAT'S A, I THINK THAT'S A GOOD USE OF OUR FUNDS AND DO THAT. 
          IN OTHER WORDS, THAT WOULD BE PHASE ONE AND THEN DECIDE LATER ON WHAT IT IS WE MIGHT WANT
TO DO WITH THE REST OF THE PROPERTY. 
          SO LET'S LET'S BIFURCATE IT. PUT IN THE PUT IN THE SYSTEM THAT WE THINK IS PROBABLY AND I
AND I DO BELIEVE WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO SPARE SOME PROPERTIES IF WE DO THAT. CAN YOU SAY SPARE PROPERTIES. YOU MEAN CONTIGUOUS. 
          PARDON ME. CONTIGUOUS PROPERTIES. YOU MEAN FROM FLOODING FROM CONTIGUOUS PROPERTY,
CORRECT. 
          YEAH. SO I THINK I THINK THAT'S A GOOD USE OF OUR FUNDS. 
          WE PARK A LOT OF CARS WITH CRA MONEY. I'M NOT. 
          I'M NOT TERRIBLY EXCITED ABOUT THAT. MAYBE OTHER PEOPLE ARE. 
          BUT CERTAINLY THE DRAINAGE THING, I THINK, IS A GOOD USE OF OUR OF OUR MONIES AT THIS
POINT IN TIME. 
          SO WOULD YOU BE THEN SUGGESTING THAT WE CLEAR THE SITE AND THEN AND IMPROVE THE STORMWATER
DRAINAGE ON THE SITE AT THIS TIME? THAT'S ALL. AND THAT'S IT FOR NOW. 
          AS AS STEP ONE? YES, SIR. OKAY. THANK YOU. MEMBER BARTON THESE ARE DESIGNED ARE GREAT AND APPEARS TO BE A GOOD USE OF THIS PROPERTY. 
          YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. WE SHOULDN'T SELL IT. WE NEED TO HAVE IT THERE FOR STRATEGIC
PURPOSES FOR STORMWATER POTENTIAL STORMWATER PLANNING. 
          HOWEVER, WITH ALL THAT SAID MY MY OPINION IS THAT THIS ENTIRE DISCUSSION IS A MOOT POINT
BASED ON THE THE MOTION THAT WAS PASSED IN THE LAST AGENDA ITEM. 
          WE EVEN IF SPENDING, CLEARING IT, AND FIXING DRAINAGE IS THE RIGHT WAY TO GO SO THAT WE
DON'T SPEND A LOT OF MONEY ON IT. 
          I DON'T THINK WE CAN SPEND ANY MONEY ON IT RIGHT NOW UNTIL WE DEAL WITH THE MOTION THAT WE
HAD IN THE LAST AGENDA ITEM, BECAUSE THAT, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, THAT MOTION WAS WE NEEDED TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT
PRIORITIES ON HOW WE SPEND MONEY. 
          AND I THINK WE HAVE TO HAVE THAT BEFORE WE SPEND ANY MONEY. 
          SO I AGAIN, WE CAN TALK ABOUT THIS, THIS, THESE WONDERFUL PLANS. 
          AND I THINK THEY ARE WONDERFUL PLANS. THEY LOOK BEAUTIFUL AND AND I LOVE THE GREEN SPACE.
AND I THINK WE DO NEED TO MAINTAIN PARKING. 
          WE'RE HOPING THAT THE COMMERCIAL AREA OVER THERE THRIVES AND WE'RE GOING TO NEED THE
PARKING. 
          SO AND WE NEED THE STORM WATERS. WE NEED TO MAINTAIN THE SITE. 
          SO ALL OF THAT'S FINE AND DANDY. AND AND THESE CHECK A LOT OF THOSE BOXES. 
          AND IN FACT, MOST OF THOSE BOXES HOWEVER, DIRECTION HERE ON THIS PARTICULAR AGENDA ITEM,
I DON'T THINK WE CAN MAKE AT THIS JUNCTURE BECAUSE IF, IF IT INVOLVES SPENDING ANY MONEY. SO, SO YOUR RECOMMENDATION THEN WOULD BE WE TABLE THIS
ITEM UNTIL A FUTURE TIME. 
          YOU GOT IT. AND DOCTOR GEORGE IS NOT ON THE AGENDA TODAY. 
          DOCTOR GEORGE IS HERE. HE'S HERE. OKAY. AND WE'RE GOING TO BE,
WITH THE HELP OF DOCTOR GEORGE, HEARING ABOUT THE INFRASTRUCTURE POTENTIAL PROJECTS IN RIVER PARK EAST. 
          NEXT. RIGHT. OKAY, SO MAYBE TABLE IT. MEMBER. 
          KRAMER. YEAH, YEAH. THANKS. THANKS FOR THIS. SO I THINK,
AGAIN, DOCTOR GEORGE IS A LINCHPIN HERE. 
          HOW CAN THIS HELP US WITH RESILIENCY AND HOLDING WATER? THE BUSINESS SIDE OF ME SAYS SELL IT, AND LET'S USE THAT MONEY FOR INFRASTRUCTURE. 
          BUT THE MUNICIPAL SIDE OF ME SAYS THE ONLY WAY TO CONTROL PEOPLE WANT GREEN SPACE. 
          YOU GOT TO OWN THE PROPERTY. IF YOU WANT GREEN SPACE,
IT'S THE ONLY WAY TO CONTROL THAT. 
          THAT'LL BE IT WILL GO AWAY IF WE SELL IT. SO HAVING SAID THAT,
I LOOK AT THESE AND I DON'T I DON'T EVEN LIKE THE FACT THAT THE PAVILION IS GREEN IN IN ONE WAY. A BECAUSE A PAVILION ISN'T GREEN SPACE LIKE I DON'T GET THAT IN MY VIEW. 
          LET'S MAKE IT GREEN SPACE. WE'RE MAKING A GREEN SPACE AND YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SHADE.
THERE'S SOME TREES. WHATEVER. I THINK THIS WOULD BE DOCTOR GEORGE'S PURVIEW, BUT WE CAN HOLD A LOT MORE WATER AND HAVE A LOT MORE GREEN SPACE WITHOUT A PAVILION THERE. 
          I DON'T GET IT, QUITE HONESTLY. DID I DO BARTON? YOU DID A BARTON MOVE? MY BAD. OR AM I GOOD? GOOD. 
          SO ANYWAY, FOR WHAT THAT'S WORTH, I, I THINK WE NEED TO WE CAN KIND OF KICK THIS CAN TO
DOCTOR GEORGE AND SAY HOW CAN WE BEST USE THIS. 
          WHAT'S OUR BEST AND HIGHEST USE FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY IN TERMS OF RESILIENCY? AND I THINK IF YOU TAKE THAT PAVILION OFF, WE SAVE A WHOLE BUNCH OF MONEY. 
          AND SO WHEN YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT THE STAGING OF THINGS AND WHAT OUR CITY MANAGER WAS
TALKING ABOUT IN TERMS OF, 
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YOU GOT TO SPEND IT OR YOU HAVE TO GIVE IT BACK,
THIS ACTUALLY MIGHT BE SOMETHING WE COULD DO IN THE NEAR TERM. 
          FIRST OF ALL, YOU GOT TO SCRAPE IT AND THEN YOU GOT TO DO SOMETHING. OTHERWISE,
IT'S JUST A BLIGHT. 
          WE'RE CREATING BLIGHT. BUT IT MIGHT BE PRETTY EASY JUST TO PLANT SOME GRASS AND SOME TREES
AND NOT BE REALLY EXPENSIVE TO DO ALL THAT AND DO IT VERY QUICKLY, ACTUALLY. MAYBE IT'S NOT. I DON'T KNOW, BUT THAT'S MY THOUGHTS. 
          OKAY. THANK YOU, MR. KRAMER. VICE MAYOR HUTCHINSON. 
          THANK YOU. AND A LOT OF WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY HAS ALREADY BEEN SAID,
SO I'LL JUST RECAP IT QUICKLY. 
          ONE, I DO BELIEVE IT'S IN OUR BEST INTEREST. AND YOU USUALLY DON'T REALIZE THIS UNTIL WELL
PAST MAKING DECISIONS WHEN YOU LOSE SOMETHING AND THEN YOU TRY TO GET IT BACK AND YOU CAN'T. 
          AND SO I'D CAUTION ABOUT DISPOSING OF THIS PROPERTY. 
          SO THIS, I BELIEVE, BECAUSE I'VE, I LIVE IN THIS AREA. 
          I'VE TRAVELED THROUGH THIS AREA FOR YEARS. THIS CAN PLAY AN IMPORTANT ROLE IN RESILIENCY. 
          WE HEARD FROM OUR COMMUNITY. WE TALKED WE ALL TALKED ABOUT PRIORITIZATION
REPRIORITIZATION. 
          WE HEARD ABOUT HOW THE HYPOTHESIS IS THAT FLOODING IN THAT GOODLETTE FRANK AREA DRAINS
INTO RIVER PARK. 
          RIGHT. WELL, IT'S JUST NOT ON THE ROAD THAT DRAINS INTO RIVER PARK. 
          THERE'S THERE'S PROBABLY DATA THAT'S GOING TO SHOW THAT FLOODING,
EVEN IN THIS 10TH STREET AREA, MAKES IT WAY MAKES ITS WAY OVER TO THE RIVER PARK AREA. 
          SO I THINK OUR OUR ENGINEERING STAFF ARE GOING TO GIVE US ADVICE ON THAT. 
          THEY'VE INCORPORATED A PROPOSED FUTURE PUMP STATION ON THESE DRAWINGS. 
          THERE'S A REASON FOR THAT. SO I SUPPORT THAT. 
          I DO BELIEVE THAT IN OUR REPRIORITIZATION, WE ORGANIZATION. 
          WE NEED TO KEEP THIS PROJECT IN OUR INVENTORY OF OPTIONS. 
          IT WILL ALSO REMEMBER, WE'RE NOT JUST TALKING ABOUT THE FLOODING AND RIVER PARK EAST. 
          WE HAVE LOW AND LOWER INCOME HOUSING IN THAT IMMEDIATE AREA. 
          RIGHT. SO WHAT DO YOU THINK? WE'RE JUST GOING TO DROP EVERYTHING AND AND MAKE DECISIONS
THAT DON'T ADDRESS THE FLOODING IN THAT IMMEDIATE AREA. I DON'T BELIEVE THAT WOULD BE WISE. 
          I WOULD I WOULD SUPPORT MAINTAINING THIS PROPERTY AND USING IT FOR THE BEST PURPOSES. 
          WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE PROPERTY ITSELF, INSTEAD OF FEATURING PARKING RIGHT ALONG 10TH,
I LIKE ONE BE WHERE YOU PUT THE ONE ROW OF PARKING EIGHT SPACES TOWARD THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY,
YOU USE THAT SPACE. AND I AGREE THAT THE PAVILION REALLY DOESN'T NEED TO BE THERE. 
          I HAVE A HYPOTHESIS THAT IF YOU BUILD THAT AND MAKE IT JUST REALLY TOO COMFORTABLE,
YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE HAPPY WITH WHAT RESIDES UNDER THAT PAVILION MOST OF THE TIME. 
          OKAY, SO WHAT I THINK, AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE COMMON USES ON THE SLIDES,
THE CONCEPTUAL SITE PLANS, THE PUBLIC ART FESTIVALS, THE FARMER'S MARKET,
FOOD FESTIVAL, CRAFT FAIRS, HEALTH EVENTS AND CORPORATE FUNDRAISING, ALL OF THESE CAN USE PRIVATE FUNDING TO BRING IN TEMPORARY TENTS TO COVER THEIR WHATEVER
FEATURES OR FUN THAT THEY'RE HAVING. IF YOU ERECT THAT PAVILION,
YOU'RE GOING TO, YOU'RE GOING TO START HAVING SOME ADDITIONAL EXPENSE FROM THE CITY IN MAINTAINING THAT PAVILION ALONG WITH EVERYTHING ELSE THAT COMES WITH IT. 
          SO I, I SUPPORT THIS, BUT FIRST WE HAVE WORK TO DO ON THE REPRIORITIZATION. 
          AND I SEE THIS AS A COMMON SENSE. TO THE MULTITUDE OF PROBLEMS RELATED TO FLOODING THAT WE
HAVE IN THIS PART OF OUR COMMUNITY. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. THANK YOU, VICE MAYOR. I'M SORRY. OH,
I'M SORRY, MR. YOUNG, DID YOU HAVE A COMMENT? OKAY, SO I THINK I'M HEARING GENERAL AGREEMENT THAT WE WANT
TO DEFER OR TABLE ANY ACTION ON THIS ON THIS MATTER. I GUESS WE CAN SAY THAT ABOUT WE'LL PROBABLY HAVE
OTHER SIMILAR MATTERS ON THIS AGENDA THAT WE WOULD SAY THE SAME THING ABOUT PENDING OUR FUTURE CONVERSATION ON PRIORITIZATION. 
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BUT ANY ANY DISAGREEMENT WITH THAT CHAIR? I HAVE A I PROBABLY DISAGREE WITH THAT. 
          I THINK THE IMPETUS FOR THIS WHOLE THING WAS THAT IT'S COSTING US MONEY AS IT IS UPKEEP,
AND IT'S THAT WE COULD NOT THE STATUS QUO WAS NOT OKAY. IT'S MY RECOLLECTION. THAT'S WHY WE STARTED THIS WHOLE CONVERSATION. 
          SO IF YEAH, IF WE'RE GOING TO SCRAPE IT AND THROW GRASS DOWN. 
          I MEAN, AGAIN, I KNOW IT HINGES ON WHAT DOCTOR GEORGE HAS TO SAY,
AND CERTAINLY WE HAVE TO GET OUR PRIORITIES IN ORDER, WITH RIVER PARK BEING THE PRIORITY, THAT THAT MAY NOT PRECLUDE US FROM. 
          FROM DOING SOMETHING. I AGREE, BUT ARE WE PREPARED TO DO OR ARE WE ABLE TO MAKE THAT
DECISION TODAY? NO. BUT WHEN YOU SAY TABLE IT, I LIKE HOW I'M I'M I'M I'M I MEAN,
MAYBE WE CAN MAKE THE DECISION TODAY. 
          I WOULD BE HAPPY TO MAKE A DECISION TODAY. I'LL TELL YOU. 
          I'LL JUST GIVE YOU MY VIEW. EVERYBODY ELSE HAS GIVEN THEIRS. 
          WE COULD. IF WE PUT THIS PROPERTY UP FOR SALE,
WE MIGHT LOSE A LITTLE. 
          WE MIGHT MAKE A LITTLE. WE MIGHT BREAK EVEN. BUT I'LL TELL YOU WHAT. 
          SOMEBODY WOULD. IF WE'RE WILLING TO SELL IT,
SOMEBODY WILL BUY IT. 
          THEY'LL. THERE'LL BE SOMEBODY WHO HAS A OPTIMISTIC VIEW ABOUT THE FUTURE OF THE DESIGN
DISTRICT IN THAT AREA. 
          AND I DON'T KNOW, IT WOULD BE TWO YEARS OR FIVE YEARS OR TEN YEARS,
BUT THERE'LL BE MARKET RATE CONDOS THERE. 
          THAT'S WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN TO THAT SITE. I GUARANTEE YOU I'LL MAKE A BET WITH ANYBODY
ON THAT. 
          SO IS THAT WHAT WE WANT? IS THAT WOULD ANYBODY HERE WANTS. 
          SO TO ME THE DECISION IS AN EASY ONE, IRRESPECTIVE OF THE PRIORITY PRIORITIES DISCUSSION. 
          BECAUSE WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, IN THE LARGER CONTEXT OF WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE
SPENDING ON RESILIENCY IN THE CRA, A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF MONEY HERE. I THINK WE SHOULD CLEAR THE SITE AND,
AND MOVE TO CREATE AS SIMPLE AND PASSIVE AND WELL ENGINEERED AND DESIGNED GREEN SPACE AS POSSIBLE THAT WILL BE
ATTRACTIVE TO THE COMMUNITY IN THE SHORT TERM AND PERFORM THE RESILIENCY STORMWATER DRAINAGE
FUNCTIONS THAT WE NEED THERE. 
          AS THE VICE MAYOR POINTED OUT THIS IS THIS IS RIGHT UP AGAINST NOT ONE, NOT TWO, BUT THREE LOW INCOME HOUSING PROJECTS THAT SEVERAL HUNDRED PEOPLE LIVE IN. 
          AND BY THE WAY, THE THE THE THE ONGOING 10TH STREET FIRST AVENUE SOUTH STORMWATER
IMPROVEMENT PROJECT THAT WAS MENTIONED EARLIER. THAT'S GOING THROUGH DESIGN RIGHT NOW. 
          ALSO IS AIMED AT SERVING THAT SAME AREA. SO,
YOU KNOW, STORMWATER DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS ARE IMPORTANT FOR MANY AREAS WITHIN THE CRA, NOT JUST RIVER PARK EAST. 
          SO WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO DO IT ALL AND PRIORITIZE PROPERLY. 
          SO I THINK THIS PROJECT IS PART OF THAT IS POTENTIALLY PART OF THAT. 
          AND I WOULD I WOULD BE GLAD TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO MOVE FORWARD WITH IT. 
          AND OR IF THE WILL OF THE BOARD IS TO TABLE IT AND DEFER IT. 
          WE CAN DO THAT. MR. YOUNG. MR. YOUNG. YEAH. AT THE RISK OF JOINING THE POLICY DISCUSSION,
I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I THINK THE PRACTICAL. IF YOU WANT IT. 
          BECAUSE I THINK IF WE CAN GET SOMETHING POSITIVE OUT OF IT,
IT'S NOT, AS YOU INDICATED, MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE RELATED TO THE DISCUSSION WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ABOUT WHAT THE PRIORITIES ARE. SO FROM THE STANDPOINT IS BY THE TIME WE GET BACK
TOGETHER, ESPECIALLY SINCE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AT LEAST 60 TO 90 DAYS TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION,
WE CAN'T BECAUSE WE BELIEVE IT'S GOING TO BE ABOVE A CERTAIN AMOUNT, IS GET FORMAL REQUESTS FOR PROPOSALS TO HAVE IT SCRAPED,
HAVE THOSE PRICES READY TO GO. 
          SO IF YOU'RE CONSENSUS WOULD BE TO DO SUCH A THING,
I THINK THE OTHER COMPONENT IS WE WOULD IDENTIFY SPECIFICALLY HAVE THE CONTRACTOR IN PLACE HAVE IDENTIFIED TO THE EXTENT WE COULD HAVE FOR FOR DOCTOR GEORGE'S DISCUSSION ON THE
OVERALL PLAN. 
          AND THEN YOU CAN MAKE THE DECISION AS TO MAYBE IT'S ALL GREEN SPACE BECAUSE TO PUT PAVING
IN, THEN TURN AROUND AND PUT A PUMP STATION IN THE BACK MAKE ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE. 
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SO I THINK IF WE GET THE FORMAL PRICE QUOTE IN FRONT OF YOU,
AT THE SAME TIME, WE'LL HAVE THAT CONVERSATION. 
          PHASE TWO OF THAT WOULD BE WHAT DO YOU WANT IT TO LOOK LIKE,
AND WHAT AREA IS GOING TO BE GREEN SPACE OR THE OTHER. 
          BUT AT LEAST THIS WAY WE'RE DOING TWO THINGS,
WHICH IS TO SCRAPE IT. 
          AND THE PROBLEM OF HAVING THE PARKING, WHICH WE HAVE BECAUSE WE HAVE A BUILDING THAT WE'RE
WE'RE ON, WE DON'T OCCUPY, AND THEREFORE WE HAVE A CONSTANT PARKING ISSUE THERE. 
          I THINK IT MOVES US IN A DIRECTION RATHER THAN STANDING STILL. 
          AND SO FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE, I THINK THAT PUTS US IN A BETTER POSITION. 
          SO YOU NEED A MOTION TO BASED UPON THE CITY MANAGER'S ADVICE,
WHICH I THINK IS GREAT, WHERE WE SHOULD GO. 
          YOU NEED A MOTION TO DEMOLISH THE EXISTING BUILDING AT THIS TIME AND THEN COME BACK TO US. 
          NO, YOU'RE GIVING ME. YOU WOULD BE. THE MOTION WOULD BE JUST TO DIRECT STAFF TO GO OUT AND
GET THE PRICES NECESSARY TO BRING BACK FOR, FOR IN CONNECTION WITH THOSE FOR DEMOLISHING PURPOSE OF DEMOLISHING IT AND. 
          YES. OKAY. AND IMPROVEMENTS OR NO OR JUST ARE WE JUST TALKING ABOUT SCRAPING IT OR GRASS
AND IMPROVEMENTS. 
          I THINK SCRAPING AND GRASS AT THE MOMENT. AND THEN WE CAN DETERMINE BECAUSE FIRST OF ALL,
YOU'RE NOT AWARDING IT. 
          I DON'T THINK YOU NEED TO I DON'T THINK YOU NEED TO DO EVERY ASPECT OF IT. 
          RIGHT NOW. I'M JUST GOING OUT. I'M GOING TO GET IT SCRAPED AND GRASS,
AND THEN WE CAN HAVE OTHER DETERMINING BECAUSE I THINK THAT IS ACTUALLY THE CHEAPEST AND MOST, WHICH ALSO PUTS US IN A POSITION WHERE WE'RE NOT,
FOR LACK OF A BETTER PHRASE, IN VIOLATION OF THE MOTION THAT WE JUST PASSED IN THE LAST. 
          BECAUSE BECAUSE WE'RE NOT SAYING GO SPEND THE MONEY. WE'RE SAYING,
LET US KNOW WHAT HOW MUCH MONEY WE WOULD NEED TO SPEND TO DO THAT. CORRECT. 
          AND YOU'RE GIVING ME THE SAME DIRECTION TO ASCERTAIN WHAT THE PROPERTY MAY MEAN IN
CONNECTION WITH THE OVERALL STORMWATER RESILIENCY INFRASTRUCTURE PLAN. THAT IS THE WHAT? THE DIRECTOR? YES, I'M GOOD WITH THAT AS WELL. YES. THEN I GUESS,
YOU KNOW, I'D LIKE TO MAKE. 
          OR DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO ADD? YEAH, I JUST WANT TO ADD SOMETHING TO POINT OUT THAT WAS
IN YOUR AGM THAT THE THE DIRECTION TO DEMOLISH A BUILDING IS VESTED IN CITY COUNCIL BY STATE STATUTES. 
          SO ANY ANY MOTION THAT YOU MAY WANT TO RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL,
A RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL. 
          AND THEN THAT THAT DISCUSSION COULD BE HAD AT A COUNCIL. 
          OKAY. OKAY. THEN I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO,
TO HAVE OUR CITY MANAGER GET PRICING ON SCRAPING THE BUILDING AND PLANTING GRASS FOR IT TO BE CONSIDERED BY CITY COUNCIL ON WHETHER OR NOT WE DO THAT SECOND. 
          SO SO THE MOTION IS, IS TO IS DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER TO OBTAIN THAT INFORMATION WHICH WOULD THEN BE PRESENTED TO CITY COUNCIL. 
          YES. YES. OKAY. SECOND. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION FROM MEMBER PETRANOFF. 
          A SECOND FROM MEMBER KRAMER. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? MADAM CLERK, WOULD YOU CALL THE ROLL? MEMBER BARTON. 
          YES. MAYOR HARTMAN. YES. VICE MAYOR HUTCHINSON. 
          YES. MEMBER. CRAMER. YES. VICE CHAIR. HENNEMAN. 
          YES. MEMBER. PETRANOFF. YES. CHAIR. KRISEMAN. 
          YES. MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU ALL FOR GOOD DISCUSSION. 
          ALL RIGHT. WE MOVE ON NOW TO ITEM EIGHT C UPDATE ON MULTI BASIN PROJECTS AND AN EMERGENCY
PUMP STATION WITHIN THE RIVER PARK AREA. 
          [8.C) Update on Multi Basin Projects and an Emergency Pump Station Within the River Park Area.]
WE HAVE DOCTOR GEORGE, OUR DIRECTOR OF CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE AND OPERATIONS WITH US. 
          AND MISS JENKINS, DO YOU WANT TO START OR. YEAH,
I'LL INTRODUCE IT FOR YOU. 
          THIS MEMORANDUM IS TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON THE PROJECTS THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN YOUR CIP. 
          DURING YOUR BUDGET DISCUSSIONS, YOU DID PRIORITIZE RIVER PARK EAST FOR FUNDING FOR YOUR
FIRST NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN. 
          WITH A BUDGET OF 1.7 MILLION OVER 1.7 MILLION,
TO PRIORITIZE THE PROJECTS THAT DOCTOR GEORGE CAN UPDATE YOU ON. SO THE FUNDING IS IN PLACE FOR THESE PROJECTS TO MOVE FORWARD. 
          AGAIN, JUST TO BE CLEAR, IN OUR CURRENT BUDGET,
THERE'S $1.725 MILLION FOR PROJECT WORK IN RIVER PARK EAST. YES. IS THAT CORRECT? YES. THANK YOU. DOCTOR GEORGE, YOUR NAMES HAVE BEEN THROWN AROUND A BIT THIS MORNING. 
          ALL. ALL IN GOOD WAYS, THOUGH. GOOD MORNING,
MAYOR AND THE COUNCIL AND OUR CITY MANAGER. 
          I JUST WANT TO I JUST WANT TO I JUST WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT BEFORE I START MY
PRESENTATION. 
          AND THERE IS A LOT OF WISDOM IN THIS ROOM COMPOUNDED WITH A GREAT DEAL OF DIVERSE
INTELLECTUAL 
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BRILLIANCE AND, AND EXPERIENCE AND WHAT OUR CITY MANAGER JUST RECOMMENDED AND OUR COUNCIL REACHED CONSENSUS ON THE PREVIOUS ITEM. 
          THAT WILL BE THE FUNDAMENTAL DEPARTURE POINT FOR LOOKING INTO OUR COMPREHENSIVE CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE RESILIENCY,
NOT ONLY FOR RIVER PARK EAST THAT WILL HELP BUT ALSO ALL CRA AREA. AND I THINK THAT THE WHOLE AREA WE PUT THERE
PLACEHOLDER AS A PUMP STATION. HOWEVER, THE AREA IS LARGE ENOUGH TO HAVE A PRETREATMENT OF STORMWATER
GOING INTO THE PUMP STATION WHERE WE CAN PRE-TREAT WHAT'S COMING TO THAT PUMP STATION. 
          WITHOUT GETTING INTO TECHNICAL DETAILS THAT WILL MEET STANDARDS OF THE OUTSTANDING WATERS
AND DISCHARGE IT AS IF, IF NOT IN SOME WAYS BETTER THAN OUR IQ WATER. 
          SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT COMMENT AND AND VERY MUCH I'M PLEASED WITH THE WISDOM AND
DECISION THIS COUNCIL MADE ON THE PREVIOUS ITEM THAT RESERVING THAT PRECIOUS PIECE OF LAND FOR A PUMP
STATION, BUT ALSO PRETREATMENT OF THE STORMWATER BEFORE DISCHARGING TO OUR RECEIVING WATERS,
EVENTUALLY GOES TO NAPLES BAY, IS NOTHING BUT BRILLIANT. SO I THANK YOU FOR THAT KIND OF POLICY DECISION AND GUIDANCE
FROM OUR CITY MANAGER. HAVING SAID THAT I'M GOING TO FOCUS ON WHAT WE HAVE IN TERMS OF EMERGENCY
RESPONSE FOR THIS CRITICAL AREA, RIVER PARK EAST. AND IF I CAN HAVE THE SLIDE KEYBOARD THERE THAT YOU CAN CHANGE THE SLIDE. OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. DO YOU WANT THIS PRESENTATION? DO YOU WANT ONE OF THE OTHER ONES? LET ME GO FOR IT, PLEASE. WE NEED TO GO TO TEMPORARY PUMP STATIONS. 
          SLIDE, PLEASE. 
          OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MA'AM. SORRY ABOUT THE DELAY ON MY PART HERE. 
          YOUR TIME IS VERY PRECIOUS. SO WHAT WE HAVE HERE IS WE HAVE BEEN WORKING SINCE LAST
HURRICANE SEASON TO COME UP WITH UNDER GENERAL GUIDANCE AND AUTHORITY. WE HAVE FROM OUR CITY MANAGER WHILE WE'RE
WORKING ON LONG TERM AND MID-TERM SOLUTIONS. ARE THERE THINGS THAT WE CAN DO AND MOBILIZE ASCITES THAT WILL MIMIC MORE PERMANENT SOLUTIONS IN TERMS OF BEING ABLE TO PUMP PEAK FLOWS AND STEADY STATE. RAINFALL EVENTS, IN THIS CASE, 25 YEAR,
THREE DAY STORM EVENT OR PEAK EVENTS BEING TEN YEAR ONE HOUR STORM OR 25 YEAR ONE DAY STORM. IN SIMPLE TERMS,
YOU'RE LOOKING AT 6 TO 8IN NO MORE THAN TEN INCHES, RAIN COMING WITHIN ONE HOUR. 
          AND THAT'S REALLY WHAT PEAK FLOW IS ALL ABOUT. 
          YOU CAN HAVE A STEADY STATE RAIN BUT YOU HAVE STEADY STATE RAINFALL,
SO YOU DON'T HAVE PEAKS. 
          THAT'S OVERWHELMING GRAVITY SYSTEM AND OR CURRENT PUMPING STATIONS THAT WE HAVE. 
          SO MOVING FORWARD, WE WILL DESIGN OUR SYSTEM FOR EACH BASIN FOR PEAK FLOWS IN ADDITION TO
STEADY STATE RAINFALL 72 HOURS CONTINUOUS, BUT BE ABLE TO HANDLE PEAK FLOWS THAT IS COMING AT US WITHIN
THAT 72 HOURS NORMALIZED FLOWS THAT ACTUALLY MISLEADING IN TERMS OF PEAK FLOW AND RELIABILITY
ENGINEERING 
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CAPACITY. SO HAVING SAID THAT AS YOU CAN SEE IN OUR I'VE BEEN THERE A NUMBER OF TIMES AND, OH, BY THE WAY, WE HAD OUR SECOND SANITARY SMALL TRUCK MOVING ALONG SO YOU WON'T SEE THAT TIRE THERE. THAT'S OUR BULK ITEM PICKUP. 
          SO IT IS IT IS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF HOW DILIGENTLY,
ON A WEEKLY BASIS, WE HAVE TO MAINTAIN OUR DRAINAGE SYSTEM AND DRAINAGE BASIN, BECAUSE THAT IS AN INFLOW FOR A FOR A GRAVITY
SYSTEM. 
          SO HAVING SAID THAT THERE ARE THREE LOCATIONS WE HAVE IDENTIFIED WHERE THOSE LOCATIONS ARE
CONSISTENT WITH KIMLEY-HORN STUDY THAT IDENTIFIED THREE AREAS OF IMPROVEMENTS TO GRAVITY SYSTEMS, AS WE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE DURING OUR CRA MEETING. 
          AND GRACIOUSLY THIS CRA BOARD MOVED SOME FUNDING ALREADY AND INCREASE THE FUNDING FOR THE DESIGN FOR US TO BE ABLE TO MOVE TO CONSTRUCTION OF THE
INITIAL PHASES OF THE GRAVITY SYSTEM ON THOSE THREE LOCATIONS. SO THIS CRA BOARD ALREADY HAVE ACTED ON IT,
AND WE'RE ABOUT 30% DESIGN REVIEW INTERNALLY FOR THAT PIECE OF THE FUNDED PROGRAM AND PROJECT THAT THE OUR CITY
COUNCIL CRA BOARD RECOMMENDED AND OUR CITY MANAGER APPROVED. 
          SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE ARE ALREADY ACTIONS IN PLAY FOR THE GRAVITY SYSTEM
IMPROVEMENTS IN THIS AREA. THEN NEXT STEP IS WHILE WE'RE. YES,
PLEASE. 
          BUT, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT THINGS
HERE. 
          AND YES, THEY'RE ALL IN YOUR PRESENTATION, BUT BUT WE. 
          AND I THINK WHAT YOU WERE JUST REFERRING TO ARE THREE SEPARATE PROJECTS THAT,
YES, WE HAVE APPROVED. 
          WE ACCELERATED THE APPROVAL OF FROM THE MULTI BASIN STUDY IN RIVER PARK. 
          DESIGN IS NOW UNDERWAY. AND THAT'S WHAT THE 1.7 MILLION WILL BE USED OR WHATEVER THE
ULTIMATE NUMBER IS TO FUND. 
          AND THEN YOU SEPARATE. BUT RELATED TO THAT ARE WHAT I GUESS IS BEING KNOWN AS DESCRIBED AS
WHAT ARE SOME SHORTER TERM EMERGENCY PUMP STATION OR OTHER IMPROVEMENTS THAT COULD BE IMPLEMENTED WITHIN THE NEXT SIX MONTHS BEFORE THE NEXT HURRICANE SEASON THAT COULD
MITIGATE THE RISK OF FLOODING IN RIVER PARK AND AND BE COMPATIBLE WITH THESE OTHER IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS. 
          CORRECT. CORRECT. AND SO I JUST SAY THAT BECAUSE AS YOU GO THROUGH THIS,
I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE EVERYBODY IS CLEAR WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SHORT TERM EMERGENCY CALL, THE EMERGENCY PROJECT,
YOU USE THAT WORD AND THE SOMEWHAT LONGER TERM IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS. 
          THANK YOU SIR. APPRECIATE THE SUMMARY. SO AS A FOLLOW UP TO YOUR YOUR CLARIFICATION THE FIRST SITE IS OUR CHURCH SITE BEFORE APRIL 1ST AND EASTER,
WE WILL HAVE A PUMP STATION THERE INSTALLED MOBILE VFD, PUMP STATION INSTALLED FULLY FUNCTIONAL AND
OPERATIONAL. 
          AND THERE IS A REASON WHY WE WANT TO MOBILIZE THAT ON APRIL 1ST,
NOT JUNE 1ST BEFORE HURRICANE SEASON BECAUSE THAT PUMP STATION IS GOING TO BE TESTING THE HYDRAULICS AND HYDRAULICS PROFILE BETWEEN TAILWATER WHAT'S ON THE CANAL IN TERMS OF KING TIDES AND THE WATER LEVELS VERSUS WHAT THE HYDRAULIC PRESSURES WE WILL
EXPERIENCE ON THE INLAND STORMWATER SIDE. AND THROUGH THAT PROCESS,
WE WILL FINE TUNE OUR SCADA, MEANING SUPERVISORY CONTROL AND DATA ACQUISITION, WHICH COMES WITH THIS UNIT,
AND VFD, WHICH REGULATES FLOW RATES AND PRESSURE ALL 
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THE WAY FROM 2000 GALLONS PER MINUTE TO 8000 GALLONS PER MINUTE. 
          AND ALSO WE WILL TEST DIFFERENT CHECK VALVES BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT CHECK VALVES WE HAVE
INSTALLED THROUGHOUT THE CITY ARE GRAVITY DRIVEN AND GRAVITY HYDROSTATIC PRESSURE CHECK VALVES. 
          SO UNDER PUMP STATION CONDITIONS THEY ARE NOT OPERATING TO FULL OPTIMAL STANDARDS. AND THAT'S LESSONS LEARNED FROM OUR FIRST PILOT PROJECT ON 17TH AVENUE THAT WE
UTILIZED AND EXERCISED ON AQUA SHORE, AQUA LINE SHORES. SO LESSONS LEARNED FROM HERE TELLS US THAT IF YOU'RE GOING TO EMPLOY AND DEPLOY THESE EMERGENCY RESPONSE PRIOR TO TROPICAL
STORM AND HURRICANE THREAT, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE READY WITH LESSONS LEARNED,
WHAT KIND OF CHECK VALVES WE NEED TO INSTALL AND WHAT KIND OF SCADA TELEMETRY REMOTE CONTROL AUTOMATION WE NEED TO HAVE WHAT SIZE OF PUMPS
WE NEED TO HAVE AT THIS LOCATION AND LOCATIONS ALREADY HAS BEEN PLANNED WITH OUR EMERGENCY CONTRACTOR,
THEIR ENGINEERS, OUR STAFF, OUR ENGINEERS AND MYSELF ON SITE. AT LEAST THREE TIMES WE WERE THERE DURING LAST HURRICANE
SEASON. 
          RIVER IS PARK, SO THE CHURCH LOCATION IS GOING TO BE OUR FIRST DEPLOYMENT STARTING APRIL
1ST FOR US TO MAKE SURE THAT WE TEST EVERYTHING SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO TEST IT DURING STORM EVENT,
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S SUCCESSFUL. 
          THE SECOND SITE IS 1324 FIFTH AVENUE NORTH. AND THAT'S ANOTHER AREA, CONSULTANT IDENTIFIED, WHICH WE WILL UPSIZE THAT YELLOW PIPE. 
          WHILE WE'RE WAITING. NOT WAITING. WE WILL NOT WAIT. 
          WE WILL MOVE TO ACTIONS AS WELL AS POSSIBLE. BECAUSE WE'RE IN THE DESIGN PROCESS. 
          WE WILL HAVE ANOTHER STATION THERE IF NEEDED,
AS NEEDED, AND READY TO BE DEPLOYED WITHIN 72 HOURS PRIOR TO ANY THREAT. 
          TROPICAL STORM AND OR HURRICANE. NEXT SITE IS 14TH AVENUE NORTH. 
          SAME HERE. PRIOR TO ANY HURRICANE OR TROPICAL STORM THREAT. 
          WITHIN 72 HOURS OF LANDFALL, WE WILL MOBILIZE ANOTHER UNIT HERE,
RIGHT SIZED TO BE ABLE TO INCREASE AUGMENT CAPACITY OF THE GRAVITY SYSTEM THROUGH PUMP SYSTEM SO THAT WE ARE ABLE TO MOVE WATER COMING INTO FROM STORM WATER COMING INTO THE
BAY AND COMING INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. SO THAT WE KEEP THINGS DRY,
AT LEAST ON THE ROAD, SO THAT THEY ARE DRIVABLE. AND THIS IS ALL DESIGNED FOR 25 YEAR,
EVERY QUARTER CENTURY. 
          THREE DAY STORM EVENT. BUT OUR PEAK FLOWS, PEAK FLOWS IS GOING TO BE MUCH HIGHER THAN BE
ABLE TO PUMP WATER GIVEN THE DESIGN CRITERIA. AND THAT'S ALL PART OF OUR FULL SCALE DEMONSTRATION PROJECT. 
          BEFORE WE DEPLOY SOME OF THESE THINGS CITYWIDE,
WHERE WE HAVE A SINGLE POINT OF FAILURES IN SOME OF THE AREAS TO EXAMPLES BEING SWAN LAKE, THE OTHER ONE BEING CRYSTAL LAKE,
WHICH ARE COUNCIL APPROVED AS PART OF OUR THIS FISCAL YEAR BUDGET AND NEXT FISCAL YEAR'S BUDGET
FOR NOT ONLY DESIGNED BY CONSTRUCTION IMPROVING COVE PUMP STATION TO BE ABLE TO HANDLE FLOWS ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT
IT CAN HANDLE WITH RELIABILITY ENGINEERING. SO IN SUMMARY THE GREAT NEIGHBORHOOD WE HAVE CALLED RIVER PARK EAST STARTING APRIL 1ST WILL BE READY FOR THE NEXT TROPICAL STORM SEASON. 
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AND I WILL TELL YOU THAT CAT ONE UP TO CAT TWO DRY HURRICANE,
DIRECT HIT RAINFALL EVENTS, INCLUDING CONDITIONS COMING FROM THE TAIL WATER THROUGH THESE THREE TEMPORARY PUMP
STATIONS BE INSTALLED READY TO GO TESTED PRIOR TO STORM EVENTS WILL BE A REMEDY AND TEMPORARY SOLUTION FOR US TO BE ABLE TO REMEDIATE AS
MUCH AS AND MITIGATE AS MUCH AS FLOODING RISK IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          AND AND IF I WANT TO FINISH THE SPECIFIC AGENDA ITEM TALKS ABOUT WHAT IS OUR EMERGENCY RESPONSE AND MOBILIZATION OF THE STORMWATER REMEDIATION
AND, AND MITIGATION MEASURES FOR THIS NEIGHBORHOOD? IS READY TO GO, FUNDED AND PREDESIGNED. AND IT WILL START BEFORE. 
          OUR NEXT COMING EASTER. IT'LL BE IN ALL THREE WILL BE OPERATIONAL BEFORE THE NEXT
HURRICANE SEASON. 
          ABSOLUTELY, SIR. ALL THREE SITES? YES, SIR. AND THE FUNDING IS COMING FROM THE STORMWATER
FUND OR IS IT IN THE CRA BUDGET? MR. YOUNG, CAN YOU OR. MR. YILMAZ, CAN YOU CLARIFY THAT THE FUNDING FOR THE OPERATIONAL
PART OF THIS WILL COME FROM STORMWATER AND THE THE THE PHYSICAL THE COST TO PHYSICALLY PUT THESE THREE PILOT SITES IN. 
          WHERE IS THAT COMING FROM? WELL, WHEN WE GET THE FINAL DESIGN OF IT,
THAT WHICH WILL BE INFRASTRUCTURE WILL COME FROM THERE. 
          BUT THE OPERATIONAL MAINTENANCE PART WILL COME FROM STORMWATER. BUT THE SO THERE'LL BE A
PORTION BUT IT'LL BE A FRACTION OF THE PORTION. 
          PORTION WILL COME OUT OF THE CRA BUDGET. CORRECT. 
          AS IT RELATES TO THAT ITEM UNDER UNDERSTOOD. I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT FOR THE FOR THE
RECORD. 
          AND THE FINAL SPLITS ON THAT HAVE NOT BEEN FINALLY DETERMINED. 
          SO BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO THE NEXT PART OF DOCTOR GEORGE'S PRESENTATION,
WHICH IS ON THE MULTI BASIN PROJECTS THAT WE HAD PREVIOUSLY SUPPORTED AND ACCELERATED AND MOVED MOVED UP ON,
ON SCHEDULE. 
          LET'S TALK ABOUT THESE PILOT PROJECTS. LET'S SEE IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS ON THE PILOT
PROJECTS. 
          I'LL START WITH THE VICE MAYOR. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. THANK YOU, DOCTOR GEORGE, FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. 
          SO JUST A FEW QUESTIONS. I WANTED TO GO TO THE FIRST LOCATION. 
          SO ITEM NUMBER ONE AND THE ONE WITH THE TIRE THERE,
AND WE UNDERSTAND THAT'S THAT'S BEEN PICKED UP. 
          AND SO THIS IS A DRAINAGE LOCATION, RIGHT? THAT THAT GREAT ON THE,
ON THE AREA THERE KEEPS DEBRIS OUT OF OUR STORM WATER PIPES. BUT THIS IS A THIS IS A LOCATION WHERE WE WE
KNOW THAT WATER WILL ACCUMULATE AND IT WILL DRAIN. AND THIS HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED AS A PUMP LOCATION. 
          SO IN IN THE RIGHT ENVIRONMENT, A STORM ENVIRONMENT,
WE WOULD DEPLOY A PUMP ON THE SURFACE. 
          YES. NOW, ON THE SIDE OF THIS, ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE OF THIS SLIDE,
WE SEE AND I'M COLORBLIND, BUT I THINK IT'S YELLOW. AND THE YELLOW DENOTES LARGER PIPES OR
REPLACED STORMWATER PIPES. WHAT DOES THAT YELLOW MEAN TO THE COMMUNITY? THE YELLOW MEANS THAT THAT IS ONE PIPE, UNDERSIZED. 
          AND IT WILL BE OVERSIZE TO IMPROVE GRAVITY SYSTEM FLOW GIVEN THE HYDROSTATIC PRESSURE
CONDITIONS ON BOTH SIDES. SO HYDROSTATIC PRESSURE IS THE PRESSURE THE,
THE THE STATIC PRESSURE IT'S DELIVERING AT THE LOWEST POINT. SO IF WE'RE THINKING OF A COLUMN OF WATER AND WE'RE HOLDING IT ON OUR
HAND, THE HYDROSTATIC PRESSURE IS THAT PRESSURE COMING FROM THAT COLUMN OF WATER. 
          SO THAT HYDROSTATIC PRESSURE FORCES THAT WATER TO GO SOMEWHERE. 
          RIGHT. YES. OKAY. SO WE'RE GOING TO PUT A PUMP THERE. 
          AND WHERE IS THE PUMP. IS THE INTAKE ON THE PUMP GOING TO BE PLACED RIGHT THERE AT THAT
GRATE WHERE THE TIRE IS. AND THEN THE EFFLUENT IS GOING TO GO. 
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JUST KIND OF TELL US WHAT THAT PUMP IS GOING TO DO AND WHERE IT'S GOING TO PUSH THE WATER, PLEASE. ABSOLUTELY, SIR. NO DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE HAVE DONE ON 17TH AVENUE. 
          SO PUMP IS GOING TO BE VERY INDICATED. IT WOULD BE INLAND,
WOULD BE VERY INDICATED. 
          IT WOULD BE ALL THE AUTOMATION LEVELS WILL BE WHERE THAT TIRE IS. 
          AND THEN DISCHARGE POINT IS GOING TO BE ON THE RIGHT SIDE WHERE THE IT WILL GO ALL THE WAY
TO WHERE THE CANAL IS. GOT IT. OKAY. I THINK THAT HELPS FOR THE COMMUNITY JUST TO VISUALIZE
WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WHEN WE'RE HAVING A FLOODING TYPE EVENT. THOSE THREE PUMPS ARE GOING TO BE DEPLOYED AT EACH ONE OF THESE SITES. 
          AND IT WILL TAKE CARE OF INSTEAD OF GRAVITY FEEDING THAT PUMP IS GOING TO TAKE OVER AND
HELP PUSH THAT WATER OUT OF THAT COMMUNITY. 
          SIR, IF I MIGHT, I VERY MUCH APPRECIATED THE WAY YOU DESCRIBED THE HYDROSTATIC PRESSURE. 
          SO LET'S SAY STORMWATER EVENT COMES IN. SO STORMWATER LEVELS GOES UP. YEAH. AND THEN YOU HAVE THE RECEIVING WATERS ON THE CANAL. 
          SO THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN HYDROSTATIC PRESSURE IS THE PRESSURE PUSHES WATER FROM INLAND TO
THE CANAL OR BAY. 
          NOW IF WE HAVE A TIDE OR HIGH TIDE OR KING TIDE,
WE LOSE THAT HYDROSTATIC PRESSURE. 
          AND WHAT THAT MEANS IS THAT PRESSURE IS A DIRECT FUNCTION OF VELOCITY. 
          VELOCITY IS DIRECT FUNCTION OF FLOW. SO DOESN'T MATTER WHAT THE SIZE OF THE PIPE IS. 
          IF YOU DON'T HAVE PRESSURE, WATER IS NOT GOING TO FLOW. 
          SO WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE PUTTING THE PUMP THERE BY SIMPLY CREATING A AUGMENTATION IN
TERMS OF PRESSURE BE ABLE TO TAKE DOESN'T MATTER. IT'S ONE INCH THE DIFFERENCE IS OR 12IN THE DIFFERENCE IS. 
          IN HYDROSTATIC PRESSURE. WE ARE SIMPLY BE ABLE TO DRAIN INLAND TO THE BAY. 
          BECAUSE BAY IS CONSIDERED SINK, YOU CANNOT INCREASE BAY WATER CONNECTED TO GULF BY PUMPING
MINIMUS AMOUNT OF WATER. HOWEVER, IT'S A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF WATER FOR THAT AREA TO BE DRAINED. 
          YES, I HOPE THAT FURTHER. ABSOLUTELY. AND I THINK FOR THE COMMUNITY THEY NOW UNDERSTAND
THAT EVEN THOUGH WE'RE LOOKING AT THESE LITTLE DRAINS AND, AND WE'RE SEEING THE YELLOW PIPES WHERE THE PIPES ARE GOING TO BE INCREASED,
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MOVING WATER WHEN WATER NEEDS TO BE MOVED. 
          AND THAT'S IMPORTANT. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. THANK YOU. 
          MEMBER PETRANOFF. THANK YOU. THESE PILOTS THAT YOU'RE CALLING,
YOU KNOW, YOU'RE CALLING THAT, ARE THERE IS IT CORRECT TO SAY THAT THEY ARE TEMPORARY FIXES,
THAT THERE IS SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, THE REAL SOLUTION IS YOUR PURE IDEA WITH CHANGING OUT ALL OF THE UNDERSIZED AND CORRODED PIPES WITHIN THE RIVER PARK EAST COMMUNITY AND UPSIZING THEM. 
          THE ANSWER IS YES, MA'AM. PILOT PROGRAMS ARE DESIGNED WITHOUT PERMANENT CONSTRUCTION. 
          PERMANENT INFRASTRUCTURE. THESE ARE MOBILE, MOSTLY O&M TYPE OPERATIONS. 
          I'LL GIVE YOU ONE EXAMPLE AND GET BACK TO THE ORIGINAL ANSWER THAT I OWE YOU TO GIVE. 
          IN WASTEWATER OPERATIONS, FOR INSTANCE, WHEN WE HAVE STORM EVENT. 
          WE DO THE SAME THING. WE HAVE A DIESEL PUMPS. 
          WE HAVE TEMPORARY GENERATORS WHERE WE HAVE POWER OUTAGE. 
          WE AUGMENT OUR DOMESTIC WASTEWATER PUMP STATIONS SO WE DON'T HAVE THE SEWER OVERFLOW WHERE
WE NEED IT. 
          WE EMPLOY AND DEPLOY WASTEWATER DIESEL PUMPS SO THAT WE'RE ABLE TO PUMP MORE DOMESTIC
WASTEWATER THROUGH OUR FORCE MAINS SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE SOURCE CALLED SEWER SYSTEM OVERFLOW. 
          AND I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE. DURING AN WE HAD 36 OF THESE UNITS OPERATING 18 MONTHS,
KEEPING DOMESTIC SEWER WASTEWATER WITHIN THE PIPES, NOT BEING INTRODUCED TO THE ENVIRONMENT. 
          SO IT'S THE SIMILAR CONCEPT. AND THEN THESE PILOT PROGRAMS THAT WE'RE EMPLOYING IS GOING
TO PARALLEL TO BECAUSE STORMWATER. 
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SOUNDS INNOCENT, BUT STORMWATER IS MOSTLY CONTAMINATED WATER BY THE END OF THE DAY. 
          SO WE'RE GOING TO TREAT STORMWATER AS IF IT'S A WASTEWATER THAT NEEDS TO BE NOT ONLY MOVED
OUT, BUT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE THROUGH A FINAL ENGINEERING DESIGN AND RELIABILITY ENGINEERING
DESIGN. 
          EVERY PUMP STATION WE WILL MOVING FORWARD DESIGN OR PUMP STATIONS THAT WE HAVE,
LIKE COVE, WILL HAVE PRETREATMENT SO THAT WHEN WE DISCHARGE OUR STORMWATER,
WE'RE NOT JUST MOVING STORMWATER FROM POINT A TO B, BUT WE ARE TREATING OUR STORMWATER BEFORE EVENTUALLY WE SEND IT TO OUR PRECIOUS BAY CALLED
NAPLES BAY. 
          OKAY. AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE HAD JUST HAD CONSENSUS AT THE VERY BEGINNING THAT RIVER
PARK NEEDS TO BE A PRIORITY. 
          THE PIECE THAT THAT I THINK WE'RE MISSING, THAT IS,
A AND ITS IS A FUNDED PLAN FOR THE PERMANENT SOLUTION FOR RIVER PARK EAST. IS THAT IS THAT A FAIR STATEMENT? I THINK THAT'S A YES IT IS. 
          AND I THINK IT'S A FAIR STATEMENT CITYWIDE. I TRULY THINK THAT THE CITY OF NAPLES AS A
WHOLE ARE ON A DIFFERENT DEGREE AND LEVELS OF CHALLENGES WHEN IT COMES TO RELIABILITY ENGINEERING IN CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE, INCLUDING STORMWATER SYSTEM BEING A CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE. 
          SO OUR APPROACH IS GOING TO BE WHERE WE ARE MOST VULNERABLE AND MOVE WITH DESIGN IN THOSE
LARGER AREAS WHICH WE'RE CURRENTLY IN THE PROCESS OF DOING,
INCLUDING BAYESIAN FOR, THEN WE HAVE SPECIAL PROJECTS TO ADDRESS SINGLE POINT OF FAILURES LIKE OUR CURRENT PUMP STATIONS. THREE OF THEM. 
          AND THEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THE KIMLEY-HORN STUDY. 
          AND THAT IS A HIGH LEVEL MODELING CONCEPTUAL STUDY THAT TELLS US WHERE WE NEED TO START
BUT NOT STOP. SO OUR APPROACH IS GOING TO BE CITYWIDE CONCEPTUAL PLANNING AND CITYWIDE STORMWATER MODELING, INCLUDING LAKES THAT WE HAVE NOT MODELED YET,
AND MANAGING THE LAKE LEVELS TO THE POINT WHERE WE'RE OPTIMIZING OUR TOTAL DETENTION,
DETENTION AND RETENTION POND CAPACITY. 
          WE HAVE ABOUT 30 PLUS MINUS LAKES WITHIN OUR CITY. 
          AND THAT'S, THAT'S, FRANKLY OUR RETENTION DETENTION PONDS. 
          SO THAT WILL BE PART OF OUR RELIABILITY ENGINEERING DESIGN. 
          AND WE HAVE THE AUTHORIZATION FROM OUR CITY MANAGER,
AND, AND PROVIDED FUNDING FOR THESE SPECIAL PROJECTS FOR THE WEIRS AND WEIR AUTOMATION,
FOR CRITICAL PATH LAKES THAT WE HAVE DETENTION, RETENTION PONDS THAT WE HAVE THAT WE'RE GOING TO START DESIGN,
IF NOT DESIGN, BUILD AUTOMATION OF THESE WEIRS. 
          SO THAT MIDDLE OF THE STORM, WE'RE NOT GOING OUT THERE WITH TEAM MEMBERS TRYING TO MAKE
ADJUSTMENTS ON THESE RIVERS. 
          WE CAN MAKE THAT ADJUSTMENTS OR ADJUSTMENTS CAN BE AUTOMATED DEPENDING ON THE FLOWS AND
INSTRUMENTATION MEASURING THESE FLOWS THAT WILL MANAGE LEVELS OF THESE 30 PLUS MINUS LAKES THAT WE HAVE
DETENTION RETENTION PONDS. 
          SO WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IN RIVER PARK EAST WILL TURN INTO WITH THE WITH THE CONSENSUS THIS CRA BOARD REACHED. IT IS THE GREATEST OPPORTUNITY FOR US NOW HAVE A FULL
SCALE DEMONSTRATION PROJECT THAT WE CAN GO IN THERE AND FUND ALL CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE RENEWAL IN RIVER PARK EAST, INCLUDING WATER, SEWER, INCLUDING SERVICE LINES,
NEW FIRE HYDRANTS, BACKFLOW PREVENTION DEVICES DESIGN AND APPROPRIATELY SIZE BACKFLOW VALVES FROM FROM THE CANAL AND THE JORDAN RIVER. AND OUR MODELING IS GOING TO INCLUDE SEA WALL LEVELS. THAT NEEDS TO BE AT REST FOR US TO BE ABLE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT PUMPING. 
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BAY OR GORDON RIVER AGAINST GORDON RIVER, AS WE TALKED ABOUT HYDROSTATIC PRESSURE. 
          AND THE REASON I THINK THIS AREA IS A FANTASTIC LOCATION FOR A FULL SCALE DEMONSTRATION
PROJECT. 
          BEFORE WE INVEST QUARTER MILLION TO HALF $1 BILLION CITYWIDE,
THERE ARE GOING TO BE SO MANY. 
          LESSONS LEARNED THAT WILL BE INCORPORATED EARLY ON INTO EACH BASIN BY BASIN DESIGN BUILD OR DESIGN BUILD PROGRAM THAT OUR CITY MANAGER IDENTIFIED. 
          AND YESTERDAY LAID OUT AS THE FINANCIAL PORTFOLIO INVESTMENT FOR ONE OF THE LARGEST
STORMWATER INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENT, FRANKLY, IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA. SO THE POINT I'M MAKING IS IN SUMMARY. 
          COUNCIL AND CRA HAS GIVEN US ONE OF THE GREATEST OPPORTUNITY. 
          HERE IS YOUR FULL SCALE DEMONSTRATION PROJECT. 
          WHY IT'S SMALL COMPARED TO. NAPLES PARK NAPLES PARK IS ABOUT LIKE 6 TO 8 TIMES LARGER THAN
THIS AREA. SECOND PART IS THAT WHEN YOU GO INTO THIS KIND OF CONSTRUCTION,
YOU NEED STAGING AREA. 
          YOU NEED THE OPERATION AREA. WE HAVE PARK PARTIALLY WE CAN USE WE HAVE CHURCH SITE WE CAN
USE. 
          SO ALL THE ALL THE ELEMENTS BASED ON A WORKING KNOWLEDGE THAT I HAVE EXPERIENCED THAT I
HAVE WE HAVE THE BEST LOCATION FOR FULL SCALE DEMONSTRATION PROJECT THAT WE CAN GO IN THERE,
DESIGN, BUILD, UPGRADE ALL OUR INFRASTRUCTURE AND FUNDING SOURCES. OUR CITY MANAGER,
BEING EXPERT AND ONE OF THE BEST CFOS I'VE SEEN, WILL BE ABLE TO ALLOCATE ENTERPRISE FUNDS. HOW MUCH WATER SEWER DISTRICT IS GOING TO SHARE
THE COSTS? HOW MUCH STORMWATER ENTERPRISE FUND IS GOING TO SHARE THE COST,
HOW MUCH CRA NEEDS TO JUMP IN AND SHARE THE COST. 
          SO FROM A FUNDING STANDPOINT, WE HAVE MULTIPLE FUNDING SOURCES TO MAKE THIS FULL SCALE
DEMONSTRATION PROJECT SUCCESSFUL ON A HIGH SPEED TRACK BECAUSE WE NEED TO MOVE FAST WITH FULL SCALE DEMONSTRATION PROJECT SO
THAT EVERYTHING ELSE WE DO CITYWIDE, WE WILL NOT WASTE NOR SECOND GUESS QUARTER BILLION TO HALF
$1 BILLION INVESTMENT THAT YOU'RE WILLING TO INVEST IN THIS COMMUNITY AND NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          SO I HOPE THAT KIND OF LAYS OUT WHAT I HAVE SEEN JUST HAPPENED LAST TWO DAYS. 
          IT'S ENCOURAGING, EMPOWERING. AND AND I THINK I WILL GIVE A BIG MEDITERRANEAN HUG TO MY
CITY MANAGER BECAUSE HE'S THE HE'S THE BRAINPOWER BEHIND THE FINANCIAL FINANCIAL FRAMEWORK. 
          BECAUSE WITHOUT FUNDING ALL THE PLANS STAYS ON THE SHELVES. 
          NOW WE HAVE THE FUNDING SOURCE THAT WILL FUEL YOUR VISION TO THE FUTURE. 
          AND YOU WILL SEE IT IN FRONT OF YOUR EYES. IT'S GOING TO MATERIALIZE AND WILL BE EXEMPLARY
IN THE STATE AND THE NATION. 
          I LOVE THE IDEA OF OF HAVING RIVER PARK EAST BE THE LEADER IN THIS AND BEING,
YOU KNOW, GETTING THE INVESTMENT OF, YOU KNOW, REALLY, REALLY WE AS A BOARD WOULD BE TAKING IT TO A COMPLETELY NEW LEVEL. 
          THAT HAS BEEN A LONG TIME COMING, YOU KNOW. BUT ALL OF YOUR ALL OF THOSE ITEMS ARE PRETTY
PRICEY. 
          AND SO I THINK THAT SORT OF OUR EARLIER DISCUSSION ABOUT HAVING THE CRA FUNDS BE
REPRIORITIZED TO THAT, WE'RE GOING TO NEED EVERY NICKEL THAT WE CAN TO PULL OUT OF THERE AND MAYBE TABLE SOME OF
THESE THINGS THAT ARE READY TO SPEND MONEY ON IN ORDER TO FUND THIS. I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG OF A PROJECT, YOU KNOW,
YOU DID NAPLES. 
          NAPLES PARK, CORRECT. WHEN YOU WERE IN THE COUNTY IS. 
          YES, MA'AM. AND HOW LONG WOULD SOMETHING LIKE THIS TAKE FOR THE RIVER PARK AREA? IS THIS A. SOUNDS LIKE A LOT OF PIPES AND VALVES AND DIGGING. 
          YES, MA'AM. AND SO THE WORKING KNOWLEDGE WE HAVE,
WE WENT INTO. 
          ISLES OF CAPRI. THE WHOLE ISLAND. AND IT TOOK 26 MONTHS FROM START TO FINISH. 
          DESIGN, BUILD. WE REPLACED ALL THE WATER MAINS ASBESTOS CONTAINING PIPES GALVANIZED
SERVICE LINES, NEW HYDRANTS, NEW BACKFLOW PREVENTION DEVICES REFURBISHED WATER PUMP STATION AND
WATER TANK 
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FOR THE FIRE PREVENTION AND RESILIENCY AND, AND AT LEAST 72 HOURS BEING ABLE TO SUPPLY
WATER IF THERE'S A WATER MAIN BREAK. 
          THE ONLY THING WE HAVE NOT TOUCHED WAS WASTEWATER,
BECAUSE WASTEWATER SYSTEM WAS BEING SERVED BY CITY OF MARCO, AND WE COULDN'T PARTNER WITH THEM AT THAT TIME IN THAT ENDEAVOR. 
          AND AT THE END THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAD THE NEW ROADS,
NEW STORMWATER AND NEW RIGHT OF WAY IMPROVEMENTS. 
          BASICALLY, IT BECAME A NEW SUBDIVISION BY THE TIME WE WERE DONE. 
          SO THAT'S ONE EXAMPLE LATELY IS LATELY IS IN THE PROCESS OF GOING THROUGH A SIMILAR
PROCESS. 
          AND WE HAVE WE HAVE NOW 75% PLUS IN NAPLES PARK AND FINGER STREETS. THERE WE GO IN EITHER EITHER 2 OR 1 FINGER STREETS. 
          THEY ARE AS BIG AS OUR FINGER STREETS ON THE AQUA LANE. 
          AND WE CAN GO IN AND FINISH ONE WITHIN 8 TO 12 MONTHS. 
          THAT'S. THAT'S SHORTER THAN I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE. 
          THAT THAT THAT IS NOTICE TO PROCEED AND COMPLETION. 
          SO THERE'S A PROCUREMENT AND PERMITTING PROCESS. 
          HOWEVER, WITH DESIGN BUILD THAT CAN BE ALSO ENHANCED AND IMPROVED. 
          AND I THINK THAT ONE THING WE HAVE NOT DONE IN COLLIER COUNTY WATER SEWER DISTRICT. 
          WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE, FULL SCALE DEMONSTRATION PILOT PROJECT. 
          SO IN SOME CASES WE WERE IN CUTTING EDGE. IN SOME CASES WE WERE IN BLEEDING EDGE. 
          AND I DON'T WANT TO SEE OUR CITY AND OUR CITY MANAGER GO THROUGH BLEEDING EDGE,
BUT WE WILL BE AT THE CUTTING EDGE BECAUSE OF THE FULL SCALE DEMONSTRATION PROJECT WE HAVE HERE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OKAY. WELL WE WE'RE TALKING RIGHT NOW ABOUT THE PILOT
PROJECTS, AND I WANT TO FINISH THAT DISCUSSION. WE HAVE A LOT MORE TO COVER,
AND WE NEED TO TAKE A BREAK. 
          SO ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PILOT PROJECTS? MEMBER BARTON AND VICE CHAIR PENMAN, YOU BOTH HAD YOUR HAND UP,
AND BUT AGAIN, THE FOCUS ON THE PILOT PROJECTS GO AHEAD ANYWAY. 
          MOST OF WHAT I WANTED TO MENTION HAS BEEN ANSWERED. 
          SO, DOCTOR GEORGE, WE'VE GOT 1.7 MILLION THAT'S BEEN FUNDED,
APPROVED AND FUNDED TOWARDS RIVER PARK EAST. 
          IT GETS VERY. AND WHAT WE'VE DONE HERE WITH THE PILOT PROGRAM IS WE'VE GOT SHORT TERM
SOLUTIONS FOR UPCOMING STORM SEASON. 
          KNOWING THAT THAT WHAT WE ULTIMATELY WANT TO DO AND WHAT WE HAVE PLANNED FOR RIVER PARK
CANNOT BE DONE BETWEEN NOW AND THEN. 
          SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE SOMETHING IN PLACE THAT'S GOING TO HELP PROTECT THAT, THAT AREA, THAT COMMUNITY. MY QUICK QUESTION,
AND I APOLOGIZE. 
          I'M GOING TO VEER JUST ONE SECOND. AND AND IT CAN BE A QUICK ANSWER AS WELL PLEASE. 
          WE'VE GOT YOU MENTIONED WE HAVE 30% OF THE DESIGN COMPLETE FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE
IMPROVEMENTS FOR RIVER PARK EAST. 
          INTERNAL 30% SCOPE OF WORK IS COMPLETE. OKAY. 
          SO WHEN, WHEN AND IT CAN BE VERY FRUSTRATING TO THE RESIDENTS OF RIVER PARK EAST BECAUSE
EVEN THOUGH WE AS A AS A GOVERNING BODY HAVE ALLOCATED FUNDS AND WE'VE PROVIDED FUNDS. YOU DON'T SEE ANY SHOVELS AND PICKAXES AND PEOPLE TEARING UP THE STREETS AND FIXING
THE PROBLEM, RIGHT? SO IT CAN BE VERY FRUSTRATING FOR THE RESIDENTS THINKING THAT NOTHING IS BEING
DONE. 
          MY QUESTION TO YOU IS WHEN CAN WE EXPECT THE THE INITIAL DESIGN PHASE TO BE DONE? AND WORK CAN ACTUALLY BEGIN ON THE PERMANENT SOLUTION FOR RIVER PARK EAST? AND I KNOW YOU JUST TOUCHED ON THAT FROM A STANDPOINT OF OF ONCE THE WORK BEGINS,
IT CAN BE DONE FAIRLY QUICK. 
          BUT I'M CURIOUS AS TO WHEN DOES THE ACTUAL PHYSICAL BEGIN. 
          AND I KNOW I WILL NOT HOLD YOU TO A DATE. APPROXIMATELY WHEN DO YOU THINK WE WOULD? WE MIGHT ACTUALLY BEGIN TO SEE SOME OF THAT WORK RIGHT NOW. 
          VERY GOOD QUESTION, SIR. IT DEPENDS ON PROCUREMENT MEANS AND METHODS. 
          IF YOU DO DESIGN BID BUILD, THAT'S THREE STEPS. 
          AND WE HAVE TO GO BEFORE COUNCIL FOR APPROVALS THREE TIMES. 
          IF WE DO PROGRESSIVE DESIGN, BUILD ONCE. IF YOU DO DESIGN,
BUILD ONCE. 
          SO DEPENDING ON CONSTRUCTION FUNDS AVAILABLE,
WE CAN BUNDLE IT AND MAKE IT DESIGN BUILD. 
          THAT MEANS WE WILL SAVE ABOUT 6 TO 8 MONTHS IN PROCUREMENT PROCESS. 
          AND SO THAT'S WHY I GOT EXCITED. MY APOLOGIES. 
          I GOT EXCITED WHEN I DID HEAR ABOUT FULLY FUNDING FULL SCALE DEMONSTRATION PROJECT. 
          THEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THREE MONTHS TO NO MORE THAN SIX MONTHS PROCUREMENT PROCESS. 
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THEN YOU'LL BE THERE WITH GOLDEN SHOVEL STARTING OUR FULL SCALE DEMONSTRATION. 
          I APOLOGIZE FOR VEERING OFF JUST A LITTLE BIT THERE,
BUT I, I HOPE I ANSWER YOUR QUESTION. YOU DID, YOU DID. THANK YOU. 
          VICE CHAIR PENMAN. THANK YOU. THAT WAS BASICALLY MY QUESTION. 
          AND THEN RELATIVE, DOCTOR GEORGE, HOW CONCERNED DO WE NEED TO BE,
IN YOUR OPINION, RELATIVE TO THIS, THESE PIPES THAT ARE THAT HAVE. THE WATER SERVICE LINE PROBLEMS HERE. 
          THANK YOU MA'AM. THAT'S I THINK NEXT ITEM. OKAY. 
          AND WE'LL BE READY TO ADDRESS ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE. 
          BUT I AGREE I AGREE. THE SOONER WE CAN WRAP THIS UP INTO A WONDERFUL LITTLE BUNDLE AND GET
IT STARTED, THE BETTER WE'RE GOING TO BE, AND THE BETTER OFF THIS WILL BE THE DEMONSTRATION PROJECT
FOR THE ENTIRE CITY, AND SOONER THE BETTER. OKAY, SO ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THE PILOT PROJECTS? IF NOT WE NEED TO TAKE A BREAK. TEN MINUTE BREAK. 
          AND WHEN WE GET BACK, DOCTOR GEORGE CAN WALK US THROUGH THE PART OF THE PRESENTATION THAT
DEALS WITH THE, THREE PRIORITIZATION PROJECTS COMING OUT OF THE MULTI BASIN PLAN. 
          ADD ANY OTHER COMMENTS HE WANTS TO ADD ABOUT THE BROADER POTENTIAL DEMONSTRATION PROJECT
FOR RIVER PARK, WHICH WOULD BE IN MY OPINION, AS I UNDERSTAND IT,
TIED INTO THE FUTURE PRIORITIZATION DISCUSSION WE'RE GOING TO HAVE. 
          AND THEN WE CAN ALSO MOVE INTO A DISCUSSION OF THE WATER SERVICE LINES ISSUE THAT WE ADDED
AS AGENDA ITEM EIGHT D. 
          SO WE'LL WE'LL TACKLE THOSE IN SUCCESSION WHEN WE COME BACK. 
          LET'S TAKE LET'S TAKE 12 MINUTES AND COME BACK AT 1105. 
          THANK YOU. WE'RE IN. ALL RIGHT. WE'RE BACK IN SESSION AFTER A SHORT BREAK WITH THE
COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING OF DECEMBER 4TH. AND WE ARE IN ON ITEM EIGHT. SEE AN UPDATE ON MULTI BASIN PROJECTS WITHIN THE RIVER PARK AREA WITH DOCTOR GEORGE YILMAZ, OUR DIRECTOR OF CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE AND
OPERATIONS, AND HE WAS IN THE MIDDLE OF HIS PRESENTATION AND ON THIS SUBJECT AND WE'LL ASK HIM TO
CONTINUE NOW. 
          THANK YOU SIR. THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME WILL BE WILL BE TALKING ABOUT MULTI BASIN STUDY AS IT RELATES TO CRA AS A WHOLE CRA AREA. AND WITHOUT TAKING A GREAT DEAL OF TIME WHAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU WAS PRESENTED DURING OUR CRA MEETING. AND AS YOU CAN SEE THIS CLEARLY SHOWS COMPLETED CURRENT FUTURE PROJECTS UNDER CURRENT INFRASTRUCTURE WITHIN
THE CRA. 
          AND WITHOUT REPEATING MYSELF BECAUSE WE'VE GONE THROUGH THIS BEFORE THEN WE HAVE CURRENT
PROJECTS THAT WITHIN THE CRA UNDER PROJECT D3, CENTRAL AVENUE, DESIGN DISTRICT AREA. WE TALKED ABOUT THAT BEFORE DURING OUR LAST
MEETING, AND THEN WE HAD THE CIA CIP RECAP. I JUST WANT TO REMIND TO US THAT DURING THAT MEETING CRA BOARD ALREADY THROUGH CONSENSUS,
DECIDED TO MOVE WISELY MANAGING THE TIMELINE ON THE PROJECTS AND PROJECT EXECUTION TO MAKE MORE
FUNDING AVAILABLE FOR CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE DESIGN. 
          UP TO $1.7 MILLION CHANGE. AND THIS SLIDE SHOWS YOU FROM KIMLEY-HORN STUDY THAT WE HAVE LOOKED AT PROJECT AREA B,
D AND E, AND, AND 
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WE TALKED ABOUT THOSE IN DETAIL LAST TIME. AND THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE DONE IN TERMS OF
FUNDING REVIEW AND FUNDING REALLOCATION SO THAT WE CAN PUT SIERRA AND. 
          RIVER PARK EAST ON A MORE EXPEDITED MODE. FROM A DESIGN AND PROCUREMENT STANDPOINT. 
          AND THEN WE TALKED ABOUT FUTURE PROJECTS THAT WE MENTIONED IN PREVIOUS PRESENTATION. 
          AS YOU CAN SEE, THOSE YELLOW LINES ARE THE GRAVITY PIPES THAT ARE KIMLEY-HORN RECOMMENDED
TO BE UPSIZED THAT WE TALKED ABOUT DURING OUR LAST MEETING. 
          AND SAME ON THIS SLIDE AND ON THIS SLIDE. AND BEFORE I GO TO THE NEXT ONE PREVIOUS AGENDA ITEM WE DID TALK ABOUT,
ARE WE GOING TO WAIT YEARS TO HAVE SOME MITIGATION AND, AND REMEDIAL RELIEF TO THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          AND WE TALKED ABOUT OUR MOBILE EMERGENCY RESPONSE APPROACH THROUGH MOBILE UNITS AND PUMP
STATIONS. 
          AND WITHOUT REPEATING MYSELF THAT HAS BEEN ALREADY IN PLACE,
AND IT WILL START BEFORE EASTER. 
          AND THEN WE TALKED ABOUT FUTURE PROJECTS FOR D1 AREA,
AND THEN WE MOVE TO MULTI BASIN PROJECT D2 AND B1. AND THEN WE DID HAVE OUR STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS AS A RECAP AND TIE IT UP TO OUR PREVIOUS CONVERSATION THAT WE DID HAVE IF WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY WHICH WE WILL, WE WILL, WE WILL BE PREPARED TO PRESENT TO CRA AND THEREAFTER OUR CITY
COUNCIL GOING THROUGH OUR FINANCIAL DUE DILIGENCE, PROCUREMENT, DUE DILIGENCE AND FUNDING,
DUE DILIGENCE AND UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES OF MOVING FUNDINGS AROUND BECAUSE WE NEED TO DO SOME DEEP DIVE ON ALL FUNDING SOURCES ALREADY
APPROVED BY THE COUNCIL SO THAT WHEN WE COME BACK BEFORE YOU AS CRA AND THE CITY COUNCIL OUR,
OUR, OUR APPROACH IS GOING TO BE HERE ARE THE, HERE ARE THE BEST VALUE INVESTMENT IN TERMS OF MANAGING THE TIMING OF THE FUNDING AND
INVESTMENT WITHIN THAT TWO YEAR PERIOD SO THAT EXPECTATIONS ARE FROM A PUBLIC UNDERSTANDING
STANDPOINT AS WELL AS POLICY MAKING STANDPOINT ARE REASONABLE AND ACHIEVABLE. 
          SO I JUST DID WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I HAVE THIS CHANCE TO CLARIFY AND SPECIFIC TO RIVER
PARK EAST RIVER PARK EAST IS ALREADY AHEAD OF CITYWIDE EMERGENCY RESPONSE. 
          WE WILL GET THAT DONE BEFORE HURRICANE SEASON,
BUT RIVER PARK IS READY FOR HURRICANE EMERGENCY RESPONSE BEFORE WE HAVE OUR FINAL SOLUTIONS IN PLACE FOR THE DESIGN CRITERIA WE TALKED ABOUT. 
          SO FIRST STEP IS, DO WE HAVE FIRST QUESTION WE HAVE IS DO WE HAVE EMERGENCY RESPONSE PLAN? THAT WILL GIVE MITIGATION AND REMEDIATION AND AND RELIEF TO OUR RESIDENTS IN RIVER PARK EAST BEFORE NEXT HURRICANE SEASON. THE ANSWER IS BEST WE CAN. 
          YES, AND IT WILL START EARLIER THAN ANYWHERE ELSE IN CITY. 
          STORMWATER UTILITY STARTING WITH THE CHURCH SITE,
AS WE TALKED ABOUT, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO TEST A FEW THINGS THERE. 
          THEN BEFORE JUNE 1ST, WE WILL DEPLOY TWO ADDITIONAL UNITS WITH LESSONS LEARNED FROM THE
CHURCH SITE. 
          AND AND THAT WILL BE OUR THAT WILL BE OUR READINESS FOR THE NEXT TROPICAL STORM SEASON FOR
THIS SPECIFIC AREA. SECONDLY, WE TALKED ABOUT ALREADY APPROVED CRITICAL 
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INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS IN RIVER PARK EAST AND CRA AS A OVERALL,
WHICH I GONE THROUGH VERY QUICKLY WITHOUT REPEATING AND AND SPENDING MORE TIME. AND THAT HAS BEEN SOLIDIFIED AND,
AND I THINK THAT CRA AND THE COUNCIL APPROVED ENOUGH AND NECESSARY FUNDING FOR THE DESIGN OF WHAT
KIMLEY-HORN RECOMMENDED FOR CRA AND RIVER PARK EAST AND THAT DESIGN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT INTERNALLY. 
          WE'RE ABOUT 30% PREPARATION OF THAT SCOPE. AND IT SHOULD BE READY RIGHT AFTER CHRISTMAS TO
BE REVIEWED BY OUR PROCUREMENT AND PUT OUT FOR SOLICITATION. 
          AND AGAIN, JUST TO JUST TO CLARIFY DOCTOR YILMAZ,
YOU'RE TALKING NOW ABOUT PROJECTS THAT ARE CALLED E1, E2, AND E5 IN RIVER PARK EAST, FOR WHICH WE HAVE AT OUR LAST MEETING ALLOCATED $1.725
MILLION FOR THE DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION. CORRECT. RIGHT. 
          AND THAT WAS MUCH HIGHER THAN ORIGINAL FUNDING. 
          AND IT WAS ALSO TAKING PROJECTS THAT WERE LOWER RANKED IN THE MULTI BASIN STUDY AND MOVING
THEM OVER TO THE CRA SO THAT THEY COULD MOVE FORWARD MORE QUICKLY. 
          YOU WOULD HAVE EARLY START. YES. YEAH. SO SO I THINK WE'VE SEEN,
AS YOU SAY, WE'VE SEEN THIS PRESENTATION BEFORE, BUT IT'S GOOD TO SEE IT AGAIN. AND IT ALSO IS A REMINDER THAT OF,
OF THE WORK THAT WE'RE DOING IN RIVER PARK EAST ALREADY APPROVED BOTH AT THE PILOT LEVEL AND THESE THREE PROJECTS I JUST MENTIONED THAT
HOPEFULLY WILL GET UNDERWAY NEXT YEAR. 
          YOU KNOW, BUT THEY'RE IN THE CONTEXT OF A NUMBER OF OTHER EITHER CURRENT OR ALREADY
APPROVED INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS IN THE CRA AREA MORE BROADLY. AND WHEN WE GET TO OUR PRIORITY,
OUR NEW PRIORITIES DISCUSSION EARLY NEXT YEAR, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO LOOK AT ALL OF THIS AND PUT IT IN IN. 
          NOTWITHSTANDING THE FACT OF OUR DECISION TO PRIORITIZE RIVER PARK EAST,
WE HAVE, FOR EXAMPLE, A PROJECT THAT'S WELL UNDERWAY THROUGH THE DESIGN PHASE FOR 10TH STREET,
FIRST AVENUE SOUTH, FOR WHICH WE BUDGETED MONEY, THAT IS DEALING WITH WHAT WE ALL KNOW ARE SOME SEVERE
FLOODING PROBLEMS IN THE DESIGN DISTRICT, RIVER PARK WEST, INCLUDING AFFECTING THREE LOW AND MODERATE INCOME
HOUSING PROJECTS THAT WERE OVER 200 OF OUR RESIDENTS LIVE. 
          I'M I'M SO I'M JUST YOU KNOW, I'M JUST PUTTING THAT OUT THERE TO MAKE SURE WE ALL
UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS IS NOW I BELIEVE THESE ARE NOT MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE. 
          I BELIEVE WE CAN DO WE YOU KNOW, WE CAN WE CAN GIVE PROPER PRIORITY TO RIVER PARK EAST AND
ALSO TO OTHER AREAS OF THE CRA, LIKE RIVER PARK WEST. 
          BUT THIS WILL HAVE TO BE PART OF OUR DISCUSSION WHEN WE HAVE THAT MEETING. 
          I'M SORRY I INTERRUPTED YOU, BUT PLEASE CONTINUE. 
          THANK YOU FOR THE SUMMARY. AND I THINK THAT THE DURING TODAY'S MEETING THERE WAS A
CONSENSUS BY THE CRA BOARD AND BEING PASSIONATE PROFESSIONAL IN MY FIELD,
I GOT EXCITED BECAUSE NOW I HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR A FULL SCALE DEMONSTRATION PROJECT THAT
IS CONTAINED SMALL ENOUGH. 
          WE CAN GO IN THERE, EXECUTE AS LONG AS WE HAVE CONSTRUCTION FUNDING AND THAT TO BE FURTHER
DISCUSSED AND FINE TUNED AND REFINED. DURING THE NEXT OPPORTUNITY WE HAVE,
AS OUR CITY MANAGER SUGGESTED, AND IT WILL BE A FUNCTION OF HOW FAST WE CAN MOVE ON THAT FULL SCALE DEMONSTRATION PROJECT TO
PREREQUISITES. 
          AND THOSE PREREQUISITES ARE HOW MUCH FUNDING WE CAN MOVE AROUND GIVEN THE TIME CONSTRAINTS
AND THE FIREWALLS BETWEEN FUNDINGS LIKE ENTERPRISE FUNDS UTILITY,
CRA STORMWATER UTILITY AND ADDITIONAL FUNDING 
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SOURCES THAT INNOVATIVELY ARE FINANCE DEPARTMENT MIGHT TAP INTO IN TERMS OF RESERVES AND
INTERNAL BORROWING, BUT I'LL LEAVE THAT ALL OUR BRILLIANT MINDS OF FINANCE GROUP. 
          WE HAVE ALL THAT TO BE FURTHER FINE TUNED. AND WE NEED TO DO HAVE SOME HOMEWORK,
NOT ONLY FROM FINANCIAL BUT TECHNICAL STANDPOINT. BUT I THINK THAT POINT I WAS MAKING,
THE CONSENSUS THIS CRA BOARD REACHED IS FROM A STRATEGIC EXECUTION STANDPOINT. I WANT TO GIVE YOU THE COMFORT LEVEL THAT IT IS THE NORTH STAR. AND IF YOU WANT TO IMPLEMENT QUARTER MILLION,
QUARTER BILLION AND HALF $1 BILLION PROGRAM CITYWIDE, I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A FULL SCALE DEMONSTRATION PROJECT VETTED
THROUGH WITH DEEP DIVES ON THE FINANCIAL SIDE, PROCUREMENT SIDE AND TIMELINE. AND, AND SO THAT WHEN WE MOVE TO LARGER PROJECTS OF
IMPLEMENTATION, IT WILL EXPEDITE, IT WILL FINE TUNE, IT WILL FINESSE. 
          AND HOPEFULLY WE'LL BE ABLE TO REPORT TO YOU 2 OR 3 YEARS FROM NOW. 
          ALL THE PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE BEEN ASSIGNED BY OUR CITY MANAGER EXECUTED ON TIME,
ON BUDGET, IF NOT EARLIER. WELL, THANK YOU. AND I THINK WHEN WE HAVE THIS NEXT MEETING AND
CONVERSATION ON PRIORITIZATION AND THE BUDGET GETTING FROM YOU AS PART OF THAT MORE DETAIL UNDERSTANDING,
IT'S GOING TO STILL BE CONCEPTUAL ON THE RIVER PARK EAST WIDE DEMONSTRATION PROJECT WILL BE VERY IMPORTANT TO HAVE AT THAT
TIME. 
          SO WITH WHATEVER BOTH TECHNICAL AND FINANCIAL INFORMATION YOU CAN PROVIDE. 
          SO THANK YOU. WHAT I WANT TO DO IS MOVE HAVE SOME PUBLIC COMMENT. 
          NOW, I HAVE ONE SPEAKER WHO WANTED TO COMMENT ON THIS ITEM MAY COMMENT ON THIS ITEM. 
          WE ALSO HAVE SEVERAL PEOPLE HERE, HAVE BEEN HERE ALL MORNING TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT. 
          MRS. DEAN AND MISS TAYLOR ON ITEM NINE B, WHICH IS THE RESIDENTIAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM
DISCUSSION. 
          AND TO ACCOMMODATE THEM IN A MEETING THAT THEY HAVE COMING UP SHORTLY,
ANOTHER COMMITMENT. 
          I'M GOING TO ASK THEM IF THEY WOULD LIKE TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT NOW AS IT RELATES TO NINE
B. 
          BUT FIRST, I HAVE LAUREN BATTLE WHO WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT ON THIS ITEM. 
          HI LAUREN BATTLE FROM RIVER PARK. FIRST OF ALL,
I WANT TO COMMEND COUNCILWOMAN PETRANOFF FOR MAKING THAT MOTION FOR A SPECIAL MEETING. 
          I SHE'S BEEN OUR CHAMPION AND PROACTIVELY HAS REACHED OUT TO HELP US AND WE'RE SO
GRATEFUL. 
          I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THAT MEETING TAKE PLACE BEFORE THE ELECTION. 
          YOU KNOW, IT'S TAKEN US TWO YEARS TO KIND OF GET ON YOUR RADAR IN A BIG WAY,
AND WE'RE SO EXCITED ABOUT IT. 
          AND AGAIN, GRATEFUL FOR WHAT I'M HEARING FROM YOU. 
          DOCTOR GEORGE. AND AN OPTIMISTIC THAT IT YOU'LL SEE IT THROUGH. 
          BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S COMING IN FEBRUARY. AND I WOULD HATE FOR,
YOU KNOW, THE CLOCK TO TURN BACK TWO YEARS AND WE HAVE TO START OVER TO CONVINCE A WHOLE NEW BATCH OF PEOPLE THAT RIVER PARK EAST DESERVES TO BE FIXED. 
          SO THAT BEING SAID, I UNDERSTOOD THE KIMLEY-HORN PEOPLE,
BASED ON THE LENGTHY REPORT TO HAVE DECLARED THAT THE PRIORITIZATION PRIORITIZATION CAME FROM CITY STAFF,
NOT FROM KIMLEY-HORN. 
          SO WHEN YOU GUYS ARE TALKING ABOUT PRIORITY BASINS,
THEIR STANCE IS THAT THAT CAME FROM US. 
          SO I DON'T KNOW, YOU KNOW, I'D LOVE TO SEE IT ON RECORD AS TO WHO MADE THOSE LISTS,
BECAUSE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT MOVING US UP. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY I FEEL LIKE WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN UP FROM THE BEGINNING,
BUT I WONDER WHO PUT US IN LAST PLACE TO BEGIN WITH. 
          SO I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE THE ANSWER TO THAT. THE OTHER THING BASED ON,
YOU KNOW, FLOODING AND IMPROVEMENTS. 
          ETC. IS THAT YOU DO HAVE A RESIDENTIAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM IN PLACE IN RIVER PARK EAST
THAT CAPS AT 200,000. 
          AND YOU KNOW, PEOPLE DO WANT TO PUT STORM WINDOWS. 
          ET CETERA. ET CETERA. COULD YOU RAISE THAT? I MEAN,
IF THEY DON'T USE IT, YOU GET THE MONEY BACK. 
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BUT COULD YOU RAISE THAT TO HALF $1 MILLION OR SOMEWHAT THEREOF TO MAKE IT GIVE IT A
LITTLE PUNCH? BECAUSE FOR PEOPLE GETTING IMPACT WINDOWS. BOOM. 
          THE WHOLE 200 GRAND IS GONE. SO THAT'S ANOTHER,
YOU KNOW, REQUEST THAT I HAVE. 
          BUT MAINLY IT'S TO GET THAT SPECIAL MEETING ON THE CALENDAR BEFORE YOU ALL YOU KNOW,
TERM OUT OR, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. THAT WOULD BE REALLY IMPORTANT TO US AS A
COMMUNITY TO SEE THAT COMMITMENT AND TO SEE US ON YOUR AGENDA AND TO ATTEND THAT SPECIAL MEETING, IF POSSIBLE. THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU AGAIN, DOCTOR GEORGE. THANK YOU. AND MISS TAYLOR,
ARE YOU OR MRS. DEAN GOING TO MAKE? WOULD LIKE TO MAKE COMMENT. 
          BOTH ARE. WHICH OF YOU? I HAVE TWO. TWO. YOU HAVE A SLIP FOR EACH. 
          WELL, YEAH, BUT PLEASE COME FORWARD. AND I KNOW YOU HAVE TO BE SOMEWHERE SOON. 
          AND THIS IS FOR ITEM NINE B, THE RESIDENTIAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM. 
          MRS. DEAN, IF YOU COULD JUST STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS,
PLEASE. 
          JACKIE DEAN, I'M THE RESIDENT OF 508 13TH STREET NORTH. 
          EXCUSE ME. I'M A LITTLE HOARSE THIS MORNING. ONCE AGAIN,
I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR EVERYTHING. 
          EVERYBODY SAYS I'M LUCKY. I'M NOT LUCKY. I'M BLESSED. 
          SO BLESSED. AND I WANT TO SAY IS I'M LOOKING FORWARD. 
          AND I'M PRAYING THAT EVERYONE IN MY COMMUNITY GETS THE SAME TREATMENT THAT I GOT,
BECAUSE WE ALL DESERVE IT. 
          AND I'M JUST I'M JUST OVERWHELMED WITH THANKFULNESS FOR REAL. 
          AND I DON'T FEEL MY BEST THIS MORNING. BUT I HAD TO COME HERE TO LET YOU ALL KNOW. 
          AND I DON'T BRING UP NOTES. I SPEAK FROM THE HEART BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE IT COMES FROM. 
          SO THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. AND PLEASE HELP THE REST OF THE HOMES IN MY COMMUNITY
GET ELEVATED. 
          WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND I'M GLAD YOU GOT TO THE FINISH LINE WITH YOUR. DID YOU SEE
THE PICTURES? YES, WE GOT HERE. WE KEEP DRIVING BY YOUR HOUSE. OH STOP BY. 
          IT'S NICE TO PUT A FACE TO IT TO A HOUSE. STOP BY. 
          AND IT'S SO COOL. I FEEL LIKE I'M IN A MANSION NOW. 
          YOU KNOW, WHEN I SIT UNDERNEATH IT, I HAVE. YOU DON'T SEE THE FURNITURE. 
          I HAVE FURNITURE UNDERNEATH IT NOW. AND A BARBECUE GRILL THAT MIGHT BE AGAINST THE CAR. 
          OH, SORRY, BUT YOU'RE YOU'RE YOU'RE VERY FAMOUS NOW. 
          I SPEAK THE TRUTH. YEAH. THE MUSEUM OF NAPLES HAS CONTACTED ME TOO. 
          SO I SUPPOSED TO BE GETTING WITH THEM TOO? BUT AGAIN,
THANK YOU. 
          AND PLEASE BLESS MY COMMUNITY AS YOU HAVE BLESSED ME. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I WANT YOU TO KNOW THIS. THIS. 
          THESE PHOTOGRAPHS ARE A LITTLE DARK, DAVID, BUT IT WAS MRS. DEAN'S DESIGNING TALENT THAT PUT THE LIGHTS OUT THERE. 
          AND WHEN I CAME TO HER HOUSE THIS WEEK, YOU KNOW,
I HEARD. 
          I DON'T KNOW HOW I'M GOING TO GET UP AND DOWN THESE STAIRS,
MAN. SHE WAS WALKING UP AND DOWN THOSE STAIRS LIKE IT WAS NOTHING. 
          HE'LL KEEP HER YOUNG. YES, YES, AS A MATTER OF FACT,
BELIEVE IT OR NOT, I'VE LOST 26 POUNDS. 
          REALLY? AND I'M DIABETIC, SO MY DOCTOR'S VERY PROUD OF ME. 
          I NEED TO ELEVATE MY HOUSE. AND SO JUST TO FOLLOW UP,
I'M REQUESTING THAT WE WE LEARNED A LOT WITH THIS ELEVATION, AND WE MADE SUGGESTIONS AT THE CRA ADVISORY BOARD
MEETING, AND WE HOPE THAT YOU WILL, YOU KNOW, HEED THOSE AND UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE MORE THINGS
THAT HAPPEN WHEN HOUSES GET. 
          THERE'S A REASON THREE MEN OR FOUR MEN WENT UNDERNEATH HER HOUSE,
THAT HOUSE ON THE LEFT BY HAND, AND DUG IT OUT SO THEY COULD PUT THE TRENCHES UNDERNEATH IT. 
          THERE WAS A REASON, BECAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT'S DOWN THERE. 
          AND I THINK THAT'S THE TRUTH FOR HOMES THAT WERE BUILT IN THE 60S. 
          SO I'M JUST REQUESTING THAT YOU CONSIDER THAT AS WE GO FORWARD. 
          AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT MRS. DEAN HAS BEEN TALKING TO MISS JENKINS FOR ABOUT THREE MONTHS. 
          SHE WANTS TO GET ON THAT LIST, AND SO IS MR. WHITAKER. 
          SO WE HOPE THAT WE GO FORWARD ON THE PROGRAM FOR THIS COMING YEAR. 
          YES. BUT ALSO CONSIDER THIS. YOU KNOW, IT'S CHRISTMAS,
RIGHT? 300, PROBABLY THREE, 25 PER HOUSE TO RAISE IT ONE A YEAR. 
          YOU COULD GET PARTNERS. I BET THERE WOULD BE PARTNERS COMING IN ON THIS. 
          THANK YOU. NEED, NEED YOUR NEED. YOUR INITIATIVE. 
          THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, BOTH OF YOU. OKAY. 
          I APPRECIATE EVERYONE'S WILLINGNESS TO LET THOSE FOLKS SPEAK OUT OF OUT OF TURN FOR THE
REASONS I STATED. 
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SO WE'RE WE'RE BACK TO ITEM EIGHT C NOW. AND DOCTOR GEORGE,
I DON'T WANT TO PRESUME ANYTHING, BUT IT FELT LIKE YOU HAD MORE OR LESS COMPLETED YOUR PRESENTATION ON ON EIGHT C,
IS THAT CORRECT? YES, SIR. SO ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON EIGHT C BEFORE WE MOVE ON? I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY ACTION REQUIRED HERE BY US OR NECESSARY. 
          SO I'LL START WITH VICE CHAIR PENMAN. JUST A COMMENT,
DOCTOR GEORGE, I HAPPEN TO TAKE NOTES AT THE AUGUST 25 FIFTH MEETING. AND IN THERE YOU DID STATE THAT THAT WE SHOULD UPDATE THE NEIGHBORHOOD WITH WATER
MAINS WASTEWATER AND SEWER SYSTEM SERVICE LINES FOR POTABLE WATER HYDRANTS AND MORE IMPORTANTLY,
BACKFLOW PREVENTION DEVICES, LIFT STATIONS, A STORMWATER SYSTEM WITH PUMP STATIONS,
AND THE BEARING OF ALL POWER AND COMMUNICATIONS LINES. 
          SO WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT THAT AS OUR TEMPLATE FOR OUR FIRST SORT OF I'M GOING TO
EUPHEMISTICALLY SAY DEMONSTRATION PROJECT AS TO HOW WE CAN ACTUALLY COMPLETE A STORMWATER PROJECT IN A PARTICULAR
NEIGHBORHOOD FROM ALPHA TO OMEGA. 
          IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH HERE? YES, MA'AM. OKAY. SO THAT GIVES US GIVES US SOMETHING TO SHOOT AT. 
          THAT WOULD BE WONDERFUL IF WE COULD COMPLETE THAT. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S A CREE THING OR IF IT'S A MAYBE. 
          MR. YOUNG, YOU COULD DIRECT US. IS THAT SHOULD WE BE LOOKING AT THIS TOTALLY IN THE CRA OR
OUTSIDE OF THE CRA? YOU KNOW, WE ARTICULATED THAT DAY AND HAVE BEEN,
I BELIEVE ALL ALONG IS SAYING THAT IT SHOULD BE COMPLETE. 
          WE ALSO AMENDED THE FIRST AND 10TH DESIGN. I AUTHORIZED THAT TO INCLUDE THE THE WATER LINE
AND SANITARY SEWER LINE AMENDMENT WHEN YOU DID THE STORMWATER AS WELL. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT EVERYTHING WHENEVER WE'RE DOING ANYTHING AT THIS
POINT. 
          BUT YEAH, WE AND THAT'S WHY WHEN GEORGE. BECAUSE WE HAVE EXTENSIVE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT
FUND INTEGRITY AND WE TALK ABOUT WHAT ARE ALL OF THE FUNDING SOURCES, YOU HAVE TO MAKE SURE YOU'RE, YOU'RE YOU'RE STREAMLINING THOSE AND TREATING THOSE
APPROPRIATELY. 
          SO WHEN YOU'RE DOING THE STORMWATER, YOU'VE TORN UP THE ROAD,
THE WATER PAYS ITS PORTION. 
          BUT YES, WE WILL LOOK AT IT HOLISTICALLY IN THAT IN THAT REGARD,
MA'AM. 
          AND HOW DO WE GET THAT DONE? HOW DO WE GET THAT ON AS AN AGENDA ITEM? WELL IT'S NOT THAT'S KIND OF THE MISNOMER IS IS AND THAT'S KIND OF WHY I WAS SAYING JUST
TO CHANGE THE BUDGET WITHOUT A SPENDING PLAN. 
          I WISH THE SLIDE THAT HE CLOSED ON WAS STILL UP BECAUSE IT SAID A MORE DETAILED
IMPLEMENTATION AND FUNDING STRATEGY NEEDS TO BE DISCUSSED. 
          AND IT ISN'T JUST A MOVING MONEY TO IT WITHOUT A STRATEGY OF IMPLEMENTATION. 
          AND SO THAT WILL HAPPEN ORGANICALLY. WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IS IN A LOT OF CASES,
WHICH OCCURRED ON FIRST AND 10TH DESIGN THAT WE ALREADY HAVE $1 MILLION INTO YOU'LL, YOU'LL SEE IT IN BOTH COUNCIL AND CRA BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE
MULTIPLE FUNDING SOURCES IN IT. 
          YOU CAN ADOPT A SINGLE THING FOR THE CITY, AND THE CITY CAN ADOPT ANYTHING FOR THE CRA
WITHOUT ITS INPUT. 
          SO IT'LL END UP IN BOTH BOTH PLACES. THE KEY TO THIS,
AND THIS WAS THE ONE THING THAT I, ME AND GEORGE WERE TALKING BACK THERE. 
          AND WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT 30% DESIGN, THAT'S THE THAT'S THE INTERNAL REVIEW. 
          AND HE SAYS THAT ON A NUMBER OF SLIDES IN HERE AND SAYS THAT THE DETAILED IMPLEMENTATION
DESIGN IS WHAT YOU HAVEN'T EVEN SEEN THAT AWARDING OF THAT YET. 
          SO NOW IF WE GO DESIGN BUILD, WE STILL HAVE A PROCUREMENT FOR DESIGN BUILD BASED ON THE
INTERNAL. 
          BUT THAT'S WHEN YOU WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SAY,
OKAY, DID WE WHAT YOU'RE PROPOSING US TO DESIGN AND BUILD, DID IT INCLUDE THE WATER. DID IT INCLUDE THE STORMWATER. 
          AND THAT'S WHAT SHOULD BE BROUGHT BACK TO YOU IN THAT COMPONENT. 
          SO NOW AND I KNOW DOCTOR GEORGE CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG. 
          ONCE YOU TAKE THIS ACROSS THE CITY, IT'S IT'S YOU MAY HAVE CERTAIN AREAS WHERE IT WILL BE
IMPRACTICAL TO DO EVERYTHING, INCLUDING ELEVATING STREETS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          SO THOSE ARE GOING TO BE ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS,
OBVIOUSLY. 
          BUT THIS ONE, AS YOU PUT IT IN, AS YOU PUT IT IN AS THIS OVERALL AREA. 
          AND IF YOU'RE LOOKING TO DO EVERYTHING, IT'S,
IT'S A NO BRAINER TO INCLUDE THOSE AND YOU HAVE SOME OPEN SPACE THERE IN WHICH TO, TO MAKE IT BENEFICIAL. SO I'M JUST SAYING IT'S BEING IT WILL BE CONSIDERED ON ANYTHING AS
LEAST AS LONG AS THAT I'M HERE THAT IT'S BEEN ANALYZED, EVEN IF IT CAN'T BE A COMPONENT, IF SOMETHING CAN'T BE,
BUT IT SHOULD BE ANALYZED BEFORE IT COMES TO YOU. 
          SO MY SHORT ANSWER IS YES, HOLISTICALLY, WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT AS WE SAID IN AUGUST. 
          IT IS THE INTENT. AND YOU WILL SEE IT AS BOTH BODIES,
BECAUSE THERE ARE GOING TO BE MIXED FUNDING SOURCES IN THIS ALL THE WAY ALONG, 
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ESPECIALLY IN AREAS WITHIN THE CRA. AND IF WE HAD TO PUT A TIMETABLE ON SOMETHING LIKE
THIS, WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT? WELL, AGAIN, THAT'S WHAT I THAT WAS WHY I WAS RESPECTFULLY THAT
WAS WHY I INTERJECTED EARLIER WAS SAID. 
          I DON'T KNOW THE TIMETABLE HE HAS IN IN HIS HEAD WITH IT,
MA'AM. 
          AND AND IN ORDER FOR IT TO COME OUT TO BE THE OBLIGATION OF FUNDS. 
          I WANT TO I DON'T WANT TO GUESS ON THAT TIMETABLE. 
          I WANT US TO HAVE WORKED THROUGH IT AND TO BRING IT BACK TO YOU. 
          SO IT'S FUNCTIONAL AND YOU DON'T DIRECT MONEY,
REDIRECT MONEY FROM ONE PLACE. 
          IT OTHERWISE COULD HAVE STILL BEEN BENEFICIAL. THAT'S ALL I'VE ASKED FOR. 
          I'M NOT GOING TO HYPOTHESIZE THAT UNTIL I'VE HAD THAT OPPORTUNITY TO MEET WITH DOCTOR JOE
AND YOU, DOCTOR GEORGE, HAVE A TIMETABLE OF SORTS IN MIND. 
          AS A FOLLOW UP TO WHAT OUR CITY MANAGER INDICATED,
FUNDS FUELS THE ACTION. 
          SO THAT'S ONE OF THE PREREQUISITES THAT WE NEED TO GET OUR HANDS AROUND IN TERMS OF
FUNDING. 
          AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GOING TO WORK AS A TEAM. 
          AND ONCE WE HAVE A FUNDING FRAMEWORK FOR THIS SPECIFIC FULL SCALE DEMONSTRATION PROJECT
AREA. 
          THEN IT'S ALL ABOUT HOW FAST WE CAN MOVE THROUGH PROCUREMENT AND SOLICITATION AND BRING
THE CONTRACTORS ON BOARD. 
          AND WE TALKED ABOUT DIFFERENT MEANS AND METHODS TO EXPEDITE THAT PROCESS. 
          ASSUMING ALL THE FUNDING IN PLACE APPROVED BY THE CRA AND THE COUNCIL I WILL TELL YOU THAT
18 TO 24 MONTHS WE CAN GET THIS DONE. HOWEVER, PREREQUISITE IS TO BE ABLE TO GET THERE SO THAT IN
FRONT OF YOU, YOU DO HAVE FUNDING SOURCE FROM MULTIPLE ENTERPRISE FUNDS,
FINE TUNED AND DETAILED AND IDENTIFIES WHEN WE MOVE FUNDING WHAT WE'RE NOT DOING. 
          AND MAYBE WE SHOULD DO ALL THAT HAS TO BE IN FRONT OF YOU,
AS OUR CITY MANAGER INDICATED. 
          THAT'S THE PREREQUISITE. BUT FROM A TIMELINE STANDPOINT,
YOU'RE LOOKING FOR ONCE WE GET THERE AND WE'LL GET THERE AS EARLY AS WE CAN, INCLUDING WORKING THROUGH THE CHRISTMAS AND AND THE FIRST CHANCE WE HAVE. 
          OUR CITY MANAGER IS AN ACTION ORIENTED AND FRANKLY,
GOES FASTER THAN SOMETIMES I'M ABLE TO CATCH UP. 
          SO THAT WILL BE IN FRONT OF YOU AS EARLY AS POSSIBLE. 
          ONCE WE HAVE THE FUNDING SOURCE, ONCE WE HAVE THE GREEN LIGHT FROM OUR CITY MANAGER WITH
CITY COUNCIL'S GUIDANCE AND DIRECTION AND DECISION I WILL SAY 18 TO 24 MONTHS WILL BE IN CONSTRUCTION. 
          SO, COUNCIL, I'M MAKING AN ASSUMPTION. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT YOU DO WANT TO GREEN LIGHT. 
          AND DO WE NEED SOME SORT OF A FORMAL VOTE ON SAYING,
PLEASE PROCEED WITH WHAT IT IS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WHEN YOU SAY GREEN LIGHT. 
          THE THE RIVER PARK EAST DEMONSTRATION PROJECT. 
          THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. IS THAT THE. NO,
NOT THE DEMONSTRATION PROJECT. 
          I'M TALKING ABOUT THIS HOLISTIC APPROACH HERE THAT THE LEADING EDGE PROJECT. 
          RIGHT. WELL, WELL, THIS IS THE CRA. I UNDERSTAND THAT WHAT I ASSUMED IS THAT WE WOULD,
AT THIS FUTURE MEETING, HEAR WHAT THAT PROJECT IS AND WHAT IT'S GOING TO COST AND WHERE THE MONEY
IS GOING TO COME FROM. 
          AND SO, I MEAN, DO I WANT TO GREEN LIGHT OR EXPEDITE OR FACILITATE US GETTING TO THAT
DISCUSSION? YEAH, I THINK WE I THOUGHT WE HAD ALREADY MORE OR LESS SAID THAT. 
          BUT IN TERMS OF GOING BEYOND THAT, I DON'T KNOW WHAT WHAT IT IS. 
          SO I SEE IT. WHAT CAN I JUST SAY THIS. I CAN RECITE THE MEETINGS. 
          WHENEVER, WHEN WE DID THE BUDGET HEARINGS, IT WAS THE SAME CONVERSATION WHEN WE DID THE
RESILIENCY AND WE TALKED ABOUT THE STREETS AND THE STORMWATER. 
          EVERY TIME WE'VE HAD THIS, THIS COUNCIL, I'LL GO ON RECORD,
HAS DIRECTED THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT AND THE CITY MANAGER THAT WHENEVER YOU'RE LOOKING AT THIS, YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT EVERY PIECE OF IT,
INCLUDING THE UNDERLYING UTILITIES THAT ARE NOT THE PRIMARY. 
          SO I WOULD JUST I WANT TO SAY THAT ON RECORD SO THAT I HAVE NO MISGIVINGS ABOUT THAT AND
THAT ENTIRE THING, 
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AND THAT THE INTENT FOR THIS SPECIFIC AREA WILL INCLUDE EVERY ASPECT OF THE PUBLIC
UTILITIES, THE ROADWAYS AND EVERYTHING THAT GOES IN IT. SO I THINK IT'S I DON'T WANT TO SAY THIS THE
RIGHT WAY. 
          YOU'RE NOT TAKING FORMAL ACTION AT THIS POINT. 
          YOU'RE JUST DIRECTING US. AND I JUST WANTED TO GO ON RECORD THAT EVERY MEETING WE'VE HAD
OF THE CRA THE LAST THREE AND EVERY BUDGET CONVERSATION, INCLUDING AND OR RESILIENCY CONVERSATION INCLUDED,
WHEN WE'RE DOING ANYTHING, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE'RE DOING IT ALL WHEREVER POSSIBLE. 
          AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW THAT,
MA'AM, THAT I HAVE I BELIEVE THAT'S HAPPENED BY CONSENSUS ON MULTIPLE OCCASIONS, BUT I I'M NOT TRYING TO DISTRACT YOU FROM SAYING THAT. 
          I JUST WANT YOU TO I WANTED TO SAY ON RECORD,
AS YOUR CITY MANAGER, I'VE HEARD THAT. 
          AND WE UNDERSTAND THAT. OKAY. AND AND FURTHER UP AGAIN,
SEVERAL AGENDA ITEMS BACK. 
          WE, WE WE ALL AGREED THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A PRIORITIZING MEETING WHERE WE CAN
POTENTIALLY PUT ITEMS LIKE THIS AT THE TOP OF THAT LIST, BUT WE CAN'T PUT THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE. WE HAVE TO HAVE THAT MEETING FIRST. SO THAT'S
I THINK THAT'S WHERE I THINK THAT'S WHERE WE STAND. 
          AND I AND I AGREE, I THINK WE ALL AGREE THAT THIS THAT MEETING IS A NECESSITY. 
          AND WE'RE DOING IT BECAUSE WE BELIEVE AS A, AS A GOVERNING BODY THAT RIVER PARK EAST IS A
PRIORITY IS IMPORTANT. 
          AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHY WE SEVERAL AGENDA ITEMS AGO EARLIER TODAY ALL AGREED TO HAVE THAT
PRIORITIZED MEETING ON PRIORITIES SO THAT WE CAN DO EXACTLY THAT. MY VIEW. THANK YOU. I HAVE MEMBER PETRANOFF AND THEN VICE MAYOR
HUTCHISON. 
          YES. THANK YOU. I WANTED TO SAY THAT, YOU KNOW,
THANK YOU, LAUREN, FOR THE THE COMPLIMENT. 
          I'M I'VE HEARD, THOUGH, ON THE DAIS, YOU KNOW,
EVERYBODY IS SUPPORTIVE OF OF THIS OF THIS INITIATIVE AND MAKING RIVER PARK EAST A PRIORITY. AND IN FACT, BEFORE I EVEN RAN FOR COUNCIL COUNCIL MEMBER LINDA PENMAN FILLED ME
IN ON RIVER PARK EAST AND YOU KNOW, TALKED ABOUT THE VERY SAME THINGS. SO IT'S I THINK YOU'VE GOT GOOD ENERGY HERE. 
          I THINK THAT THAT WE'VE GOT A GREAT START ON THIS THING. 
          THE ONE THING I THINK THAT WE AGREED ON, THAT ON,
ON THIS IS AS A POLICY THAT WE WERE THAT WE WANTED TO PUT THE RIVER PARK EAST FIRST. 
          BUT, YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T PUT DOLLARS TO IT BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE PLAN YET. 
          SO WE KNOW WHAT THE FUNNEL IS. AND THE REASON I'M BRINGING THIS UP IS I JUST I WAS JUST
DOING MATH YESTERDAY, AND IT'S YOU KNOW, THE CRA FUND BALANCE IS ABOUT 12.6 MIL. 
          AND IT KICKS OFF ABOUT 11.5 MILLION IN REVENUE ANNUALLY. 
          THE CAP BUDGET FOR NEXT YEAR IS 15.3, AND 58% OF THAT IS TOWARD FIRST,
12TH AND 10TH. 
          ANOTHER 3 MILLION GOES TOWARD DESIGN DISTRICT DESIGN DISTRICT IMPROVEMENTS. 
          AND, THE FOLLOWING YEAR, WHICH IS GOING TO BE QUICK HERE QUICKER THAN YOU KNOW IT. 
          THE CAP BUDGET IS 17.3 MILLION, WITH HALF PLANNED TO FIRST,
12TH AND 10TH OF ALMOST $10 MILLION. 
          5.2 MILLION IS PLANNED FOR FIFTH AVENUE AND ZERO IS PLANNED IN THE CRA. 
          FUNDS FOR RIVER PARK EAST AND ZERO IS PLANNED IN YEAR THREE AND ZERO IN YEAR FOUR,
AND THEN ZERO AND YEAR FIVE. 
          SO I'M ASSUMING THAT THIS PLAN THAT'S GOING TO COME FORTH WILL HAVE,
YOU KNOW, A DOLLAR AMOUNT, AND IT'S GOING TO BE A BIG DOLLAR AMOUNT THAT WE'RE GOING TO CHOKE ON FOR A MINUTE,
AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO REJIGGER THE THE MONEY AS POLICY MAKERS AND, AND PUT AND PUT RIVER PARK SPEND INTO THOSE EMPTY SLOTS. 
          WELL, I'LL SPEAK TO THAT BECAUSE I THINK THE PLAN HAS TO BE ALL INCLUSIVE OF ALL FUNDS. 
          SO IT NEEDS TO PROJECT OUT THE REQUIREMENT FROM BEGINNING OF THE PLAN TO ITS COMPLETION
AND DOESN'T CONTEMPLATE ANYTHING ELSE. 
          UNLESS OTHERWISE DIRECTED. SO I THINK WHAT I,
WHAT I'M GETTING AT IS THIS THE FIRST THING WE'RE GOING TO DO IS LOOK AT EVERYTHING YOU ALREADY DON'T HAVE UNDER DESIGN. THE LAST THING THAT I WOULD WALK IN THE ROOM WITH IS,
SAY, UNDERSTAND? YOU ALREADY DESIGNED FIRST AND 10TH,
BUT I WOULD TAKE EVERYTHING WHERE THAT HAS BEEN PLACEHOLDERS FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND LAND AND ROLL IT UP IN IN A SECOND, A PLAN TO PROPOSE IT TO YOU IN THAT WAY,
WHEN YOU TALK FIRST AND 10TH, I'M GOING TO SAY, OKAY, LET'S HOW'S THAT SPLIT OUT? AND IT MAY BE WHERE WE CAN DO THEM BOTH AND WE'RE ISSUING DEBT FOR THAT PORTION. 
          I DON'T WANT TO SAY X, I DON'T KNOW. BUT WHAT I CAN TELL YOU IS I'M NOT GOING TO BRING YOU
THE EXISTING BUDGET, BRING THAT FORWARD, AND NOT HAVE ALREADY GIVEN YOU WHERE I THINK WE WHERE WE GET THAT
FUNDING FROM WITH A FUNDING PLAN. 
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AND THAT'S WHAT I WAS ALWAYS I WAS ASKING IN THE VERY BEGINNING,
IS THAT IT WASN'T JUST DONE THROUGH OSMOSIS, THAT IT WAS ACTUALLY A PLANNED EFFORT WITH REAL NUMBERS,
THAT WE COULD THEN ARTICULATE WHAT THE NEXT 5 TO 10 YEARS WOULD LOOK LIKE FOR THE CRA. 
          THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO DO. THANK YOU, VICE MAYOR. 
          YEAH, SOME GOOD DISCUSSION. MR. CHAIRMAN, I I'VE,
I'VE BEEN LISTENING TO THE PUBLIC SPEAKERS, LISTENING TO DOCTOR GEORGE, AND THEN, OF COURSE,
LISTENING TO ALL OF THE MEMBERS OF THE CRA OF THE BOARD HERE AND WHAT I'VE HEARD AND I JUST I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I'VE GOT THIS RIGHT. 
          ONE, THERE'S BEEN DISCUSSION ABOUT REPRIORITIZATION OF OUR PRIORITIES. 
          SO THAT DISCUSSION, I DON'T BELIEVE IS ON THE AGENDA TODAY,
BUT WE'LL NEED TO PLAN ON HAVING THAT DISCUSSION SOON. AND I'M JUST NOT SURE. SO THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. 
          WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT A SPECIAL MEETING FOR THE CRA. 
          SO IN MY MIND, WHEN I I'M KIND OF THINKING TRANSACTIONALLY HERE,
THE THINGS THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT HERE THAT NEED TO HAPPEN. ONE IS SCHEDULING A CRA SPECIAL MEETING IF THAT'S POSSIBLE,
THIS LATE IN THE YEAR. 
          TWO WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO ATTEMPT TO DO WITH THIS CRA SPECIAL
MEETING. 
          AND I'VE HEARD AND I'VE BEEN VERY EXCITED ABOUT THE,
THE NEW TERM THAT I'VE LEARNED CALLED FULL SCALE DEMONSTRATION PROJECT AND HOW THAT APPLIES TO RIVER PARK EAST. SO WE'VE HEARD THAT TERM. 
          AND NOW I BELIEVE I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW ALL THE VARIOUS ELEMENTS OF THAT TERM AND WHAT IT
MEANS TO GET THAT IN PLACE. SO IT HAS TO BE DEFINED. 
          WE NEED TO I THINK THAT POTENTIAL CRA SPECIAL MEETING WOULD INCLUDE THAT. 
          WHAT IS A FULL SCALE DEMONSTRATION PROJECT? WHAT ARE THE VARIOUS PIECES? WHAT'S THE EXPENSE? WHAT'S THE TIMELINE? AND I THINK WE'VE TOUCHED ON VARIOUS THINGS AND
BITS AND PIECES OF CONVERSATION. 
          WE WE WE WE LEARN ABOUT THESE SPECIFIC ELEMENTS. 
          THEN WE TALK ABOUT THE REPRIORITIZATION OF THE PRIORITIES. 
          RIGHT. SO WE LEARN ABOUT THE ELEMENTS. THEN WE PUT IT IN ITS PROPER PLACE. 
          AND I THINK THAT MAY HAPPEN DURING A CRA SPECIAL MEETING. 
          AND THEN WE NEED TO THINK WHAT PART OF THAT. HAS A ROLE IN DECISIONS THAT NEED TO BE PART OF A CITY COUNCIL AGENDA. OKAY. AND WHETHER OR NOT THAT CAN HAPPEN BEFORE. 
          NO. WHAT IS THE. WHAT IS THE WHAT IS THE FIRST AVAILABLE TIME THAT OUR CITY COUNCIL CAN MAKE DECISIONS RELATED TO THAT AND HOW THAT PLAYS
INTO COMMITMENTS WE'VE ALREADY MADE FINANCIALLY AND OTHERWISE. 
          SO FOR ME, MR. CHAIRMAN, I'M JUST. I LOVE ALL THE DISCUSSION,
BUT AT SOME POINT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE SOME DECISIONS RELATED TO THIS. 
          VICE MAYOR, IF I COULD RESPOND. YES, SIR. FIRST OF ALL,
I THINK YOU'VE FROM A PROCESS STANDPOINT AND A DECISION STANDPOINT AROUND PROCESS, YOU'VE LAID IT OUT BEAUTIFULLY. 
          AND YOU KNOW, MY THINKING AS THE CONVERSATION OCCURRED EARLIER,
IS THAT AS YOUR CHAIR I'M GOING TO BE FOLLOWING THIS MEETING, TALKING TO MISS JENKINS. 
          MR. YOUNG ABOUT BECAUSE YOU ONLY LEFT OUT ONE THING,
AND THAT ONE THING IS THE AMOUNT OF WORK THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE DONE BY STAFF TO MAKE THIS NEXT MEETING USEFUL AND PRODUCTIVE. 
          AND WHAT I'M HEARING IS THAT'S NOT A SMALL THING. 
          SO AND AND WE'RE ALSO, AS WE KNOW, WE'VE ACCELERATED THE REMAINING TWO MEETINGS OF CITY
COUNCIL FROM THEIR ORIGINAL SCHEDULED TIME TO NEXT WEEK TO TAKE OUR TRADITIONAL HOLIDAY BREAK. PEOPLE HAVE SCHEDULED I'M SURE,
BOTH ON THE STAFF SIDE AND ON THE COUNCIL SIDE, CRA BOARD SIDE SCHEDULED THINGS. 
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AND WE'LL JUST HAVE TO SEE WHEN THE, THE THE RIGHT THE BEST TIME AND THE RIGHT TIME IS FOR
HAVING THE NEXT MEETING. I'M NOT EVEN SURE WHEN THE NEXT REGULAR CRA MEETING IS SCHEDULED OFF THE
TOP OF MY HEAD, BUT DO YOU KNOW, ANITA, WHEN THE NEXT REGULAR MEETING IS,
IT IS MARCH 26TH. 
          NOT TILL THE END OF MARCH. SO OBVIOUSLY WE NEED SOMETHING. 
          AND MAYBE WE NEED SEVERAL MEETINGS IN ADVANCE OF THAT. 
          BUT ALL THESE THINGS THAT YOU'VE MENTIONED, VICE MAYOR,
HAVE TO BE TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT, INCLUDING THE STAFF WORK THAT CAN MAKE THE DISCUSSION PRODUCTIVE, PRODUCTIVE. AND I'LL TALK TO MR. YOUNG AND MISS JENKINS ABOUT THIS,
AND WE'LL BEGIN TO WORK ON FINDING THE RIGHT DATE FOR THAT. 
          THAT'S ALL I CAN SAY. OR A TIMELINE OR TIMELINE. 
          YEAH. YEAH. YEAH, YEAH. THAT THAT ALSO. BUT AS I UNDERSTAND,
THE PURPOSE OF THE MEETING IS REALLY TO TO LOOK AT OUR CURRENT CRA BUDGET AND, AND WHERE THE MONEY IS ALLOCATED NOW BY A LINE ITEM AND CHANGES WE WANT TO MAKE IN THAT AS IT RELATES TO RIVER PARK EAST
PARTICULARLY AND, AND IN FUTURE YEARS AS WELL. AND TO DO THAT WE NEED INFORMATION ABOUT HOW AND WHEN THAT
MONEY COULD BE SPENT IN RIVER PARK EAST BECAUSE AGAIN, I'M AS YOUR CHAIR,
I, I FEEL AN OBLIGATION AND RESPONSIBILITY TO THINK ABOUT THINGS LIKE PRESERVING THE, INTEGRITY LEGALLY AND FINANCIALLY OF THIS ENTITY. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, AND WE HAVE SEEN AROUND THE STATE CRAS SANCTIONED BY THE STATE,
IF THEY ARE NOT ABLE AND TO FOLLOW WHAT THEY SAY THEY ARE PROPOSING TO DO IN TERMS OF GOALS AND OBJECTIVES
AND TO SPEND MONEY ON PROJECTS THAT THEY HAVE BUDGETED FOR. AND IT'S A IT'S I DON'T WANT TO EVER. 
          WE'VE NEVER HAD THAT VULNERABILITY HERE, TO OUR CREDIT,
AND I DON'T WANT TO START HAVING THAT VULNERABILITY. 
          SO ANYTHING WE DO, I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE ANYTHING WE SAY WE'RE GOING TO SPEND
MONEY ON. 
          I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO FOLLOW THROUGH ON THAT. 
          YEAH. OKAY. WELL THANK YOU. ANY OTHER ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON ITEM EIGHT C BEFORE WE MOVE
ON. 
          OKAY. THANK YOU. GEORGE, YOU'RE STILL UP. WE'RE MOVING NOW TO ITEM EIGHT D,
A NEW ITEM THAT WE ADDED WHEN WE SET THE AGENDA. 
          AND THIS RELATES TO WATER LINE SERVICE IN RIVER PARK EAST. 
          AND BASED ON MY DISCUSSION ON THIS EARLIER THIS WEEK,
REALLY MORE BROADLY IN THE CITY AND PARTICULARLY WITHIN THE CRA, IN PARTS OF LAKE PARK, WHICH ARE WITHIN THE CRA AND WE HAD AN EMAIL TO THE CITY COUNCIL
FROM JUDY HASSAN ON THIS, WHO, AS I RELAYED EARLIER,
HAD CONTACTED ME AND I ARRANGED A MEETING THAT DOCTOR GEORGE WAS NOT AT. 
          WE HAD BOB MIDDLETON AND MICHELLE BAINES AND BEN COPELAND AT THAT MEETING PROVIDING BOTH
HER AND MYSELF WITH SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION. 
          GEORGE, I DON'T KNOW TO WHAT DEGREE YOU HAVE BEEN BROUGHT UP TO DATE ON THIS ISSUE. 
          AND, AND CAN SPEAK TO IT. BUT AND EVEN WHETHER YOU'VE SEEN THE MEMO FROM MISS HUSTON. 
          BUT I THINK WE CAN START BY ASKING YOU TO MAKE ANY COMMENTS YOU WISH TO MAKE. 
          THANK YOU. CHAIR. AND I'M VERY MUCH FAMILIAR WITH EPA AND FDEP RULES AND REGULATIONS AND REQUIREMENTS FROM THE UTILITIES AND WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE. 
          WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS FOLLOW UP TO ORIGINAL LEAD CONTAINING ALLOY MATERIALS BEING REPLACED AND TAKEN OUT OF DRINKING WATER SYSTEM DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM. 
          SO MOST UTILITIES I CAN I CAN ONLY SPEAK TO ONE THAT I PERSONALLY WAS INVOLVED. 
          COLLIER COUNTY WATER SEWER DISTRICT SERVES ABOUT 140MI²,
250,000 CUSTOMERS. SYSTEMATICALLY, WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO REPLACE ALL SERVICE LINES AND LET
CONTAINING 
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COMPONENTS, INCLUDING BACKFLOW ASSEMBLIES AND METERS AND CONNECTORS TO THE TRUNK LINES FOR
THE WATER MAIN. SO THE INTENT THERE IS SIMPLY MAKING SURE THAT OUR WATER DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM DOES NOT HAVE ANY POTENTIAL TO CONTRIBUTE TO DRINKING WATER ABOVE AND BEYOND PRIMARY SECONDARY STANDARDS. 
          MCLS. FOR THE NUMBER OF METALS LISTED THAT WE HAVE TO MONITOR,
AND WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE WITHIN MCL'S MAXIMUM CONCENTRATION LEVELS. SO THE RULES AND REGULATIONS FOLLOWED UP AND SAYING THAT AFTER FLINT, MICHIGAN AND JACKSON,
MISSISSIPPI EXPERIENCE IT WAS REALIZED THAT THE GALVANIZED SERVICE LINES UNDER CERTAIN CONDITIONS AND QUALITY OF THE
WATER COMING FROM OUR PLANTS AND BEING DISTRIBUTED FOR DRINKING WATER DEPEND ON ITS PH LEVELS
AND RATIOS. 
          SCALING AND ANTI-CORROSION AUGMENTATION AND MANAGEMENT OF THAT WATER WOULD PREVENT GALVANIZED PIPES PRECIPITATING, PRECIPITATING SOME METAL IONS INTO THE DRINKING WATER SUPPLY BEFORE IT GOES HOME. 
          SO IT'S A VERY STRINGENT REQUIREMENT AND ALL UTILITIES GOING THROUGH WHAT WE'RE GOING
THROUGH. 
          AND WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT CITY PURE PROGRAM, MEANING CITY PUBLIC UTILITIES RENEWAL PROGRAM, I LIKE THE TERMINOLOGY BECAUSE IT SAYS CITY PURE. 
          SO THAT GOES BACK TO WHAT OUR CITY MANAGER INDICATED OUR DIALOG AND CONVERSATION FROM STORMWATER UTILITY HAVE BEEN INCLUSIVE OF UPGRADING ALL OUR CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE,
INCLUDING DRINKING WATER, WASTEWATER AMONG OTHERS, UP TO STANDARDS. 
          THAT INCLUDES REPLACING ALL GALVANIZED SERVICE LINES THAT IS OWNED BY CITY UTILITY
AUTHORITY OR CITY UTILITY DISTRICT. AS PART OF THIS MOVING AHEAD PLAN CITYWIDE AS PART OF THE
STORMWATER INITIATIVE. SO WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT FULL SCALE DEMONSTRATION PROJECT WOULD INCLUDE
REPLACING ALL THESE GALVANIZED PIPES IN THE PROCESS. AND IT WOULD INCLUDE ALL OTHER COMPONENTS,
ALLOY COMPONENTS, INCLUDING REGULATED BY EPA AND FDEP AND DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH NOW ALSO MONITORING TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL THE WAY TO
THE METER THAT WE OWN AS UTILITY HAS BEEN REPLACED WITH ACCEPTABLE AND LOWER RISK MATERIALS. 
          SO IS THERE AN URGENCY FOR UTILITIES TO MOVE FORWARD. 
          TO REPLACE AS FAR AS WE CAN. THESE SERVICE LINES. 
          THE ANSWER IS YES. ABSOLUTELY. HOWEVER, REGULATIONS STARTS WITH MONITORING, INVENTORY ALLOCATION, KNOWING WHAT WE HAVE IN THE GROUND. 
          AND CURRENTLY, THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN GOING THROUGH. 
          I'M DOING ALL I CAN TO IDENTIFY WITHIN OUR CITY WATER SERVICE AREA,
AT RISK BY ADDRESS AND PROPERTY, FOLIO NUMBER BY FOLIO NUMBER. EVERY CONNECTION WE HAVE,
WHAT KIND OF PIPES WE HAVE AS SERVICE PIPES CONNECTING TO OUR DRINKING WATER LINES. 
          ONCE WE HAVE THAT INVENTORY, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE MAGNITUDE OF,
IF YOU WANT TO GO AND REPLACE THOSE SERVICE LINES. 
          HOW LONG IS IT GOING TO TAKE AND HOW MUCH IS GOING TO COST? AND I OWE THAT TO OUR CITY MANAGER, AND I'LL WORK THAT THROUGH AS FAST AS WE CAN. 
          I'M LOOKING AT 4 TO 5 DAYS, NO LESS. I WILL PROVIDE THAT INVENTORY TO OUR CITY MANAGER AND
EMBED IT INTO OUR GIS SYSTEM 
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AND CORRELATE IT WITH FIELD VERIFICATION. BECAUSE THIS IS CITYWIDE,
THOUGH, YOU'RE TALKING CITY DISTRICT WIDE, WHICH GOES OUTSIDE OF CITY BOUNDARIES, EVEN OUTSIDE THE CITY BOUNDARY. 
          YEAH, BECAUSE OF THE CITY. SO SO THIS THIS REALLY BECOMES A CITY COUNCIL DISCUSSION,
NOT A CRA DISCUSSION. 
          AT LEAST INITIALLY. YES, SIR. IT IS. YEAH. OKAY. 
          YEAH. THANK YOU. QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FOR DOCTOR GEORGE BEFORE WE CLOSE THIS ITEM? I THINK. PREFER IT. I DO HAVE A FORMAL REQUEST THAT WE REFER IT TO CITY AGENDA. 
          YEAH. WELL AGAIN NOTED AND WILL BE SCHEDULED ON ON THE FIRST WORKSHOP. 
          AFTER YOU RECONVENE, THE FIRST WORKSHOP, JUST TO BE CLEAR,
IS MARCH, BECAUSE YOU HAVE THE JANUARY WORKSHOP IS A JOINT MEETING BETWEEN PAB ON THE COMP PLAN. 
          THEN YOU HAVE THE THE MEETING, ONE OTHER MEETING IN JANUARY,
WHICH IS A COUNCIL MEETING AND IN ORDER AND HE HAD INDICATED 45 DAYS TO GET IT READY. 
          AND THEN YOU ONLY HAVE THE ONE MEETING AS THE NEWLY ELECTED BODY. 
          SO I WOULD SAY WE WOULD BRING THAT BACK AT THE WORKSHOP IN MARCH,
MA'AM. 
          JUST TO CLARIFY, THAT WAS MY DEADLINE TO MY BOSS. 
          SO. ALL RIGHT. WHAT ABOUT THE PEOPLE THAT ARE ON THESE LINES THAT THAT ON THESE GALVANIZED PIPELINES AT THIS PARTICULAR POINT IN TIME,
ARE WE SURE THAT THERE'S NO KIND OF HEALTH HAZARDS RELATIVE TO THEIR CONTINUING ON THAT LINE UNTIL WE DO SOMETHING ABOUT THAT OR FINISH THE INVENTORY OR
WHATEVER THE PROCESS IS HERE? VERY GOOD INQUIRY, MA'AM. AND I WAS AT OUR WATER PLANT AND TALK TO OUR WATER SUPERINTENDENT AND ASSISTANT SUPERINTENDENT WENT THROUGH THE TREATMENT PROCESS,
AND I THINK THAT THE, OUR WATER PLANTS WILL CONTINUE TO DO WHAT THEY ARE DOING,
BUT WE WILL MOVE FORWARD TO MORE FINE TUNING MANAGING, SCALING AND MANAGING ANTI-CORROSION CONTROLS AND PH LEVELS SO THAT OUR GALVANIZED CONNECTIONS ARE NOT SUBJECT TO PRECIPITATION,
MEANING THEY DON'T RELEASE IONS. WE WILL DO OUR BEST FROM A TREATMENT AND DISTRIBUTION STANDPOINT TO MINIMIZE THAT
POTENTIAL RISK THAT EPA AND FDA AS REGULATORY ENTITIES IMPOSED UPON US. 
          AND FROM A SCIENTIFIC STANDPOINT THAT IS A REAL THING. 
          FURTHERMORE TO FURTHER ADDRESS YOUR INQUIRY WE WILL COMMUNICATE MORE CLEARLY WITH OUR CUSTOMERS THAN WE DID BEFORE THAT. THERE ARE MEANS AND METHODS FOR ADDITIONAL. 
          INDIVIDUALS CAN TAKE WITHIN THEIR HOUSEHOLD BECAUSE GALVANIZED PIPE DOESN'T END WITH OUR
OUR WATER SERVICE LINE. 
          OUR WATER SERVICE LINE ENDS AT OUR METER AND BACKFLOW PREVENTION. 
          BUT THEN THERE MIGHT BE GALVANIZED WATER LINE WITHIN THE HOUSE. 
          AND THAT'S FRANKLY WE ARE OFF. HENCE THAT'S PRIVATE PLUMBING AND THAT'S PRIVATE
RESPONSIBILITY. 
          SO I THINK THAT WE ALL ARE CUSTOMERS. VERY GOOD CLEAR GUIDANCE HOW THEY CAN AND WHAT THEY CAN DO WITHIN THEIR HOUSEHOLD,
STARTING WITH IF THEY HAVE REFRIGERATOR WITH FILTER, MAKE SURE THAT THOSE FILTERS ARE 99.9%, WHICH IS MOSTLY THE CASE REPLACE ROUTINELY THAT WILL ILLUMINATE WITHIN THE IN-HOUSE PLUMBING POTENTIAL OLDER PIPE RESIDUAL SUBSTANCES OUT. AND IF. IN ADDITION TO REFRIGERATOR AND REFRIGERATOR FILTRATION SYSTEMS. OH, BY THE WAY,
THEY'VE BEEN THEY'VE BEEN ENHANCED AND IMPROVED TREMENDOUSLY. 
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AND THEY ARE VERY EFFECTIVE. EVEN THE I TRUST OUR POTABLE WATER. 
          AND DIRECTLY FROM THE FAUCET, I MAKE A BABY FORMULA. 
          I STILL USE MY FRIDGE FILTER AS WELL. SO IT'S JUST YOU KNOW IT'S JUST BEEN RELIABLE TO ENGINEER LACK OF. IF I COULD JUST JUST ADD AND WHAT I'VE,
WHAT I'VE LEARNED AS I'VE TRIED TO EDUCATE MYSELF ON THIS JUST IN THE LAST FEW WEEKS,
I GOT ONE OF THESE SURVEY LETTERS. 
          THE THE PROBLEM IS NOT IS IS BY NO, IF THERE IS A PROBLEM OR A A RISK ISSUE, IT'S IT'S CERTAINLY BY NO MEANS LIMITED TO RIVER PARK EAST. 
          WE HAVE I THINK 18,000 RESIDENTS, AS I LEARNED THAT WE WERE TRYING TO GATHER DATA ON AS TO
WHAT THE THE MATERIAL ON THE SERVICE LINE TO THE PROPERTY WAS COMPRISED OF,
WE'VE WE'VE REDUCED THAT OVER THE YEARS TO 10,000 THAT WE STILL DON'T KNOW. MY HOUSE IS ONE OF THEM. AND I CAN GUESS,
THOUGH, THAT IT'S PROBABLY THE PRIVATE LINE UNDER THE HOUSE IS PROBABLY GALVANIZED MATERIAL BECAUSE I LIVE IN AN OLDER HOME. AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE COLOR CODED MAP ON THE
WEBSITE, YOU SEE THAT THE, THE MOST THE LARGEST NUMBER OF UNKNOWNS ARE IN NEIGHBORHOODS LIKE LAKE PARK, OLD NAPLES, SUN TERRACE YOU KNOW,
ANY OF US, ANYBODY WHO KNOWS NAPLES AND ITS HISTORIC DEVELOPMENT AND THE PACE OF WHERE REDEVELOPMENT
HAS OCCURRED OVER THE LAST 30 YEARS, MOST FREQUENTLY, IT'S NOT HARD TO GUESS WHERE WHERE,
WHERE THESE PROPERTIES ARE. 
          SO THIS IS A THIS IS A CITYWIDE ISSUE. AND IT'S I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR COUNCIL AND THE
PUBLIC TO BE EDUCATED MORE ON WHAT THE ISSUES ARE, NOT TO TO, TO TAMP DOWN APPROPRIATELY ANY UNWARRANTED FEARS OF PUBLIC HEALTH RISK,
BUT TO ALSO UNDERSTAND WHAT WE NEED TO DO OVER TIME TO IMPROVE THE SITUATION. AND THAT WOULD BE THE DISCUSSION. 
          WE CAN LOOK FORWARD TO IN MARCH. AND APPARENTLY THERE ARE SOME SORT OF A FILTER THAT YOU
CAN PUT ON THE FAUCET ITSELF. 
          YES. OKAY. AND THOSE ARE EASILY FOUND THESE ANSI FILTERS AND YES,
MA'AM. 
          SIMILAR TO FRIDGES, ONE CAN PUT UNDER-SINK FILTRATION SYSTEM TO MAKE SURE THAT WITHIN THE
HOUSE, PRIVATE PLUMBING, ESPECIALLY OLDER HOMES THAT WILL BE GOOD. 
          SAFETY MEASURE FOR DRINKING WATER AND WHAT HAVE YOU IS THERE AN EMINENT PUBLIC HEALTH RISK
HERE THAT WE NEED TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT? THE ANSWER IS NO. 
          HOWEVER, DO WE HAVE ADVICE TO OUR CUSTOMERS IN TERMS OF MINIMIZING,
IF NOT ELIMINATING POTENTIAL PUBLIC HEALTH RISK DRIVEN BY INTERNAL PLUMBING? IS. YES REFRIGERATORS WITH FILTRATION SYSTEM AND UNDER-SINK FILTRATION SYSTEM IS SECONDARY RELIABILITY FILTRATION AND, AND WATER CLEANING SYSTEM. NOW AS FAR AS WATER SEWER UTILITY AND CITY WATER DISTRICT OUR PLAN IS GOING TO BE AS EARLY AS POSSIBLE WITHOUT WAITING FOR PEER PROGRAMS, NEIGHBORHOOD BY NEIGHBORHOOD. REPLACING ALL INFRASTRUCTURE. 
          WE WILL EXPEDITE THROUGH CONTRACTUAL SERVICES. 
          AND I OWE THAT TO OUR CITY MANAGER. THAT WE WILL OUTSOURCE IT. 
          AND WE WILL DO EVERYTHING WE CAN AS FAST AS WE CAN REPLACE ALL REMAINING GALVANIZED
SERVICE LINES WITHIN OUR UTILITY. BEAUTIFUL. OKAY. THANK YOU. 
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THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YES. MEMBER CRAMER. YEAH. 
          THIS IS JUST A LITTLE KIND OF THE MECHANICS OF IT. 
          AND THIS MAY HAVE FOLKS AT HOME OR OTHER FOLKS IN RIVER PARK THAT WERE CONCERNED ABOUT
THIS. 
          I GOT I GOT ONE OF THE LETTERS AND MY MOTHER IN LAW GOT ONE OF THE LETTERS AND I SWORE I'D
ALREADY DONE THIS IN PREVIOUS YEARS. 
          SOME YEARS SOMEWHERE. AND SO. BUT ANYWAY, GO THROUGH THE PROCESS AT MY HOME. 
          DID IT AND GOT THAT INFORMATION REGISTERED, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT. 
          WELL, THEN I WENT TO DO IT AT HER HOUSE, AND I THOUGHT I WAS LOSING MY MIND BECAUSE I'M
GOING THROUGH THE SAME PROCESS AND IT WOULD NOT WORK. 
          IT WOULD NOT INPUT INTO THE DATA WOULD NOT. IT JUST GAVE ME A WHOLE A ENTIRELY DIFFERENT
MESSAGE ON MY PHONE. IT WOULDN'T LET ME INPUT THE DATA. 
          AND I'M LIKE, WHAT AM I DOING WRONG? AND THEN SO I CALLED OUR FOLKS AND THEY DUG UP AND
FOUND THAT YOU CANNOT INPUT IT IF IT'S ALREADY IN THERE, BUT THERE'S NO MESSAGE THAT SENDS YOU THAT, HEY,
THIS HAS ALREADY BEEN DONE. 
          OH. YEAH. SO JUST SO YOU KNOW, JUST THE MECHANICS OF IT,
IF YOU'RE TRYING TO PUT INPUT, IF YOU DON'T GET THE SCREENS, IT'S YOU HAVE TO INPUT YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS. AND IF THOSE THINGS DON'T COME UP WHEN
YOU HIT ON THE CORRECT BUTTON, IT'S PROBABLY ALREADY BEEN DONE. AND I DID NOT KNOW THAT. 
          AND SO THEN IT OCCURRED TO ME, OH YEAH, THE ONE THAT I THOUGHT I DID AT MY HOUSE HAD
ALREADY DONE IT. MY MOTHER IN LAW'S HOUSE. 
          THAT'S HOW UNSMART I AM. BUT ANYWAY, SO JUST FOR SOME,
TO AVOID ANY CONFUSION ON THAT, I HOPE WE CAN GET THE WORD OUT THAT YOU COULD BE DOING THE RIGHT THING AND NOT KNOW WHY IT WON'T ACCEPT YOUR DATA. AND THE REASON IT'S
NOT ACCEPTING IT IS BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY IN THE DATABASE. 
          THANK YOU. I HOPE I EXPLAINED THAT RIGHT. NO. 
          YOU DID. AND I THAT WAS PART OF THE CONVERSATION I HAD ALSO THAT CAME UP AND THANK YOU FOR
RAISING IT. 
          OKAY. WELL, I THINK WE CAN MOVE ON. AND, DOCTOR GEORGE,
WE CAN LET YOU GO AND BEGIN WORK ON THE RIVER PARK EAST DEMONSTRATION PROJECT. VERY GOOD. SIR. AND FOR THE FOR THE FOR THE INFORMATION OF THE CRA AND THE
COUNCIL. 
          OUR CITY MANAGER HAS INITIATED SINCE WE CAME ON BOARD CALLED ENTERPRISE ASSET MANAGEMENT
QGIS BASED SYSTEM, AND THAT PROCESS THROUGH IT WILL CLEARLY IDENTIFY ALL NUTS AND BOLTS OF OUR CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE ASSETS IN TERMS OF AGE,
TYPE, MATERIAL, LIFE CYCLE REPLACEMENT. AND AND IT WILL FEED THE FINANCIAL PIECE IN TERMS OF R&R REPAIR
AND MAINTENANCE PROGRAM, BUT ALSO IT WILL FEED TO CIP AFTER LIFE CYCLE BUILDING CAPITAL OUTLAY TO REPLACE
IT BEFORE LIFE CYCLE ENDS. I JUST DID WANT TO SHARE THAT WITH YOU,
THAT WHEN THIS KIND OF SUBJECT MATTERS COMES UP, ESPECIALLY DEALING WITH PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY DRIVEN BY CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE. 
          YOU WILL HAVE AS THE GOVERNING BOARD, A STAFF WILL HAVE YOU'LL BE ABLE TO ZOOM IN AND ZOOM
OUT TO YOUR HOUSE OR NEIGHBOR'S HOUSE, BE ABLE TO KNOW EXACTLY WHAT WE GOT IN TERMS OF ASSETS AND
ASSET CONDITION IN OUR CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE. AND WE'RE LOOKING AT 18 TO 24 MONTHS OUT TO ROLL THAT. 
          WONDERFUL. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. WELL, WE'LL MOVE ON NOW TO NEW BUSINESS AND ITEM NINE,
A 
          [9.A) Discussion of Current and Future Opportunities to Partner with Habitat for Humanity of Collier County to Purchase and Rebuild Single Family Affordable Workforce Housing within the Redevelopment Area.]
MISS JENKINS. THANK YOU, MISTER CHAIR. THIS IS A DISCUSSION ABOUT AN OPPORTUNITY THAT WAS
BROUGHT FORWARD FROM THE FOR HABITAT OF HUMANITY FROM COLLIER COUNTY. 
          I DON'T KNOW. OH, GOOD. I THOUGHT WE HAD LOST REVEREND LISA LEFKOW. 
          OR THE CEO OF HABITAT FOR HUMANITY. SEVERAL WEEKS AGO,
BEFORE THANKSGIVING. 
          SEVERAL HOMES IN RIVER PARK EAST CAME ON THE MARKET. 
          AND THEY WERE A FORECLOSURES. AND THE OPPORTUNITY WAS BROUGHT FORWARD FOR A POTENTIAL
PARTNERSHIP ARRANGEMENT WITH THE CRA WHEREBY THE CRA COULD LOOK AT EITHER PARTNERING WITH OTHER PARTNERS IN THE
COMMUNITY OR SIMPLY FUNDING A PURCHASE OF PROPERTY THAT MET YOUR GOALS TO MAINTAIN AFFORDABLE HOUSING. 
          AND THEN HABITAT WOULD HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DEMOLISH THE EXISTING HOME AND BUILD A NEW
HOME TO CODE. 
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AND THAT HOME ON THOSE PROPERTIES COULD THEN BE MANAGED THROUGH THE PROCESS WITH HABITAT
FOR HUMANITY, AND THROUGH THEM THEY COULD PRIORITIZE CITY STAFF. 
          FIRST RESPONDERS SCHOOL TEACHERS TO BE A PRIORITY TO PURCHASE THOSE HOMES THROUGH HABITAT
FOR HUMANITY. 
          SO WE LEARNED SHORTLY BEFORE THE BREAK THAT THE THE HOMES THAT WERE ON THE MARKET WERE
QUICKLY PURCHASED BECAUSE THEY WERE AT $400,000. 
          AND THEN ONE HOME WAS LEFT ON THE MARKET FOR PURCHASE. 
          AND WE DID INVOLVE YOUR CONSULTANT FOR REAL ESTATE AND LOOKING AT THESE OPPORTUNITIES. 
          AND SO TODAY, WE JUST BRING THIS FORWARD TO YOU FOR A DISCUSSION ITEM TO SEE IF THIS MAY
MEET YOUR AFFORDABLE HOUSING GOALS, THAT YOU MAY WANT TO BUDGET FOR A PURCHASE OF ONE,
ONE PROPERTY OR TWO PROPERTIES A YEAR AND PARTNERING WITH HABITAT TO BUILD NEW HOMES THAT MEET CODE AND RESILIENCY FACTORS. 
          AND WE DO HAVE REPRESENTATION TODAY FROM HABITAT FOR HUMANITY. 
          IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS OPPORTUNITY. 
          AND AND IF I COULD JUST PROVIDE A LITTLE MORE CONTEXT BEFORE WE TURN IT OVER TO OUR
FRIENDS FROM HABITAT WHEN THESE PROPERTIES WHEN WE BECAME AWARE OF THEM THROUGH DISCUSSIONS,
I THINK THROUGH HABITAT IS HOW WE FOUND OUT ABOUT MISS JENKINS. I WAS NOTIFIED ABOUT IT AS THE CHAIR,
AND I SAID INTERESTING. POSSIBLE OPPORTUNITY. BUT NUMBER ONE GIVEN THE TIMELINE THAT THE OWNERS OF
THESE PROPERTIES WERE WERE PUTTING OUT THERE, THERE'S ABSOLUTELY NO WAY WE COULD MOVE QUICKLY ENOUGH. 
          INCLUDING MEETING OUR MANDATED RESPONSIBILITIES IN TERMS OF GETTING APPRAISALS AND
EVERYTHING. 
          LET ALONE HAVING THE INFORMATION BROUGHT TO THIS BOARD FOR CONSIDERATION. 
          IT WAS JUST NOT A POSSIBILITY. WE WE HAD SOME STAFF AND FROM BOTH HABITAT AND THE CRA,
THE CITY CONTINUED TO TALK ABOUT IT, BUT IT POINTED OUT THE CHALLENGE THAT A PUBLIC BODY HAS TO MOVE QUICKLY AND FLEXIBLY. 
          SO I THINK WHAT'S YOU KNOW, WHAT'S ROOTED IN THIS,
IN THIS DISCUSSION ITEM IS WHETHER WE WANT TO ENTERTAIN IN THE FUTURE, CREATING A PROGRAM THAT WOULD HAVE A BUDGETED LINE
ITEM. 
          AND I'M MINDFUL OF OUR EARLIER DISCUSSION ABOUT PRIORITIZATION AND SO ON. 
          BUT IF WE HAD IF WE HAD A PROGRAM THAT EXISTED THAT HAD BUDGET DOLLARS ATTACHED TO IT. 
          AND AND THE OTHER IMPORTANT COMPONENT IS WITH COMMUNITY SUPPORT IN RURAL PARKS. 
          IS THIS SOMETHING THE COMMUNITY THERE IS INTERESTED IN SEEING POTENTIALLY HAPPEN? I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT. PERHAPS WE COULD HAVE SOMETHING IN PLACE THAT COULD ALLOW
US TO MOVE QUICKLY AND EXPEDITIOUSLY WHEN OPPORTUNITIES CAME UP AND, AND ACTUALLY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY WORKING WITH HABITAT TO
ACQUIRE THESE PROPERTIES AND SEE SOMETHING BETTER BUILD ON THE LOT. SO THAT'S THAT'S THE IDEA HERE. AND DO YOU WANT TO INTRODUCE OUR SPEAKER? PROBABLY INTRODUCE MYSELF IF YOU WOULD LIKE. GOOD AFTERNOON. 
          MY NAME IS DEREK HATCH. I AM THE VICE PRESIDENT OF REAL ESTATE AND CONSTRUCTION FOR
HABITAT FOR HUMANITY. 
          AND I WANT TO APPLAUD YOUR EFFORTS. IT IS NOT AN EASY TASK TO HAVE TO PRIORITIZE,
TO BALANCE, AND I APPLAUD THE DESIRE YOU HAVE TO CONTINUE TO FURTHER ELEVATE OUR COMMUNITY. 
          THANK YOU, MR. WHITAKER, FOR YOUR US, YOUR STORY,
YOUR HEARTFELT STORY, FURTHER ILLUSTRATING THE NEED OF DIRECTING ATTENTION TO YOUR COMMUNITY. AS YOU MENTIONED, EXACTLY THAT WE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME ACROSS
SOME UNIQUE OPPORTUNITIES A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HABITAT FOR HUMANITY. 
          WE WE GOT THE OUR START 48 YEARS AGO, HELPING REVITALIZE THE HOMES BEHIND THE COMMUNITY CENTER AND THE AQUATIC CENTER. WITH THAT,
THE HABITAT FOR HUMANITY. 
          AND COLLIER COUNTY IS THE OLDEST, SECOND OLDEST IN THE NATION AND HAS SUBSEQUENTLY BECOME
THE LARGEST HABITAT FOR HUMANITY IN THE UNITED 
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STATES HERE IN COLLIER COUNTY, BECAUSE IT HAS BEEN A MAJOR FOCUS TO PROVIDE AFFORDABLE
HOMEOWNERSHIP HERE NOT RENTING, BUT HOMEOWNERSHIP. AND WE'VE HAD HABITAT FOR HUMANITY,
AND CRA HAS HAD SOME OPPORTUNITIES TO PARTNER IN THE PAST. 
          IN 2012, WHEN THE MALL WAS RENOVATED. ADDITIONAL FUNDS WERE DONATED TO PURCHASE A HOME,
A DILAPIDATED HOME IN LAKE PARK THAT WAS SUBSEQUENTLY TORN DOWN, MAKING WAY FOR A BEAUTIFUL NEW HOME FOR A FAMILY TO
AFFORD THAT NEVER WOULD HAVE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY. 
          IN 2017, THERE WAS ALSO VACANT LAND DONATED THROUGH THE CRA THROUGH THE CRA ON 13TH
STREET, WHERE A HOME WAS BUILT, AND GAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ANOTHER FAMILY TO HAVE A HOME
THROUGHOUT HABITAT'S HISTORY. 
          WE HAVE PROVIDED HOMES FOR 2730 FAMILIES. WHETHER THAT'S THROUGH HOME AFFORDABILITY,
THEIR OWN OWNERSHIP, OR THROUGH BEAUTIFYING AND FACELIFTING AND UPLIFTING CURRENT LIVING SPACES
PERMANENT AFFORDABILITY IS SOMETHING THAT I THINK THE RESIDENTS IN THESE COMMUNITIES ARE ALSO
CONCERNED WITH. 
          AS YOU GO ABOUT THESE WONDERFUL MEASURES TO IMPROVE AND BEAUTIFY THE COMMUNITY,
THAT ALSO MAKES IT A LOT MORE ATTRACTIVE, WHICH CAN HISTORICALLY DISPLACE HISTORICAL FAMILIES AS INVESTORS COME IN AND THEY BUY
THESE AREAS THAT ARE NOW BEING IMPROVED. 
          AND SO WE ARE RECOMMENDING, AS WE SAW THROUGH THIS LAST OPPORTUNITY WHEN THE THREE HOMES
CAME ON THE MARKET THROUGH FORECLOSURE AND THE OPPORTUNITY TO PURCHASE THEM, BEING ABLE TO MOBILIZE QUICKLY. 
          AND AS YOU MENTIONED, SOMETIMES THE GLACIAL SPEED AT WHICH SOME ENTITIES END UP HAVING TO
WORK THROUGH. 
          WE MISSED A VALUABLE OPPORTUNITY TO PURCHASE BACK THREE PROPERTIES AND KEEP THOSE IN A
PERMANENT AFFORDABILITY, THROUGH PARTNERING WITH HABITAT, THROUGH DEED RESTRICTIONS AND OTHER MECHANISMS THAT ALLOW
THAT PERPETUAL AFFORDABILITY WHILE PROVIDING QUALITY HOME BUILT HOMES BUILT TO CODE. AND SO WHAT WE ARE HERE ASKING IS TO BE A RESOURCE AND A
PARTNER THROUGH YOUR PROACTIVE VISION CASTING. AND AS YOU GO THROUGH AND POSSIBLY ALLOCATE FUNDS FOR LAND ACQUISITION,
FOR RENOVATIONS AND FOR RAZING OF HOMES, CONTINUE TO KEEP US IN MIND AS A PARTNER, A STRATEGIC PARTNER AND CAPABLE PARTNER IN THE
AREA TO BE ABLE TO AUGMENT YOUR OFFERING WITH OUR OFFERING BACK TO THE COMMUNITY, TO CONTINUE TO TO ELEVATE JUST IN CLOSING TO WE
JUST A REMINDER THAT WE ARE COLLIER COUNTY'S SOLE PROVIDER OF HOME AFFORDABLE HOME OWNERSHIP. 
          THERE'S LOTS OF RENTALS, AND IT HAS THEIR PLACE AFFORDABLE RENTALS WITH. 
          WE'VE SEEN A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT, BUT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN HOME OWNERSHIP AND AFFORDABLE
RENTAL IS NIGHT AND DAY. 
          AND THAT IS WHAT COMMUNITIES ARE BUILT ON THE STABILITY OF FAMILIES,
HISTORICAL FAMILIES RAISING THEIR CHILDREN AND CONTINUING TO TO TO INVEST IN THOSE COMMUNITIES. SO THANK YOU AND THANK YOU. THANK YOU,
MR. HATCH, AND APPRECIATE YOUR BOTH WHAT HABITAT HAS DONE AND IS DOING HERE IN COLLIER COUNTY. 
          IT'S AN EXTRAORDINARY STORY THAT MOST JUST THE NATIONAL LEADERSHIP THAT HAS BEEN
ESTABLISHED HERE IS SOMETHING THAT MOST PEOPLE DON'T KNOW ABOUT. 
          AND IT'S WHAT YOU AND LISA HAVE DONE AND OTHERS ASSOCIATED WITH HABITAT IS A TREMENDOUS
STORY. 
          SO AGAIN, JUST TO TRY TO FOCUS US IN THIS CONVERSATION,
I'LL OPEN IT UP FOR QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS TO STAFF OR TO DEREK. 
          THE QUESTION REALLY IS DO WE WANT TO ASK OUR STAFF TO EXPLORE THIS OPPORTUNITY FURTHER? THE OPPORTUNITY, MEANING THE DEVELOPMENT OF SOME KIND OF A PROGRAM THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE
BROUGHT BACK TO US, THAT WOULD BE STRUCTURED IN TO CREATE A A NOT NOT JUST A FUNDING BUCKET,
BUT A MORE FLEXIBLE, EXPEDITIOUS PROCESS THAT WE COULD GO THROUGH WHEN OPPORTUNITIES OCCURRED. 
          LOOKING VERY SPECIFICALLY AT THE RIVER PARK EAST AREA. 
          AND I THINK AS PART OF THIS STAFF EFFORT IT WOULD NOT ONLY INVOLVE ALL DISCUSSIONS WITH
HABITAT FOR HUMANITY, BUT WITH THE COMMUNITY TO DETERMINE WHETHER THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THEY'RE SUPPORTIVE OF. 
          SO THAT'S THAT'S THE QUESTION ON THE TABLE. MEMBER BARTON. 
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YEAH, I THINK FIRST AND FOREMOST, I THINK IT IS WORTH EXPLORING ON,
ON MULTIPLE LEVELS. 
          NUMBER ONE, IT TIES IN WITH RESILIENCY FROM THE STANDPOINT THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE BUILDING
NEW STRUCTURES. 
          THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE STRUCTURES THAT ARE THAT ARE GOING TO BE VULNERABLE TO TO THE THE
FLOODING THAT WE'VE BEEN EXPERIENCING AND POTENTIAL HAZARDS IN THAT IN THAT VEIN. BUT IN ADDITION TO THAT I ALSO FOCUSED IN ON THIS SENTENCE AND, YOU KNOW, THE OTHER OBVIOUS BENEFIT TO THIS IS IT'S HELPING WITH WITH SOMETHING THAT WE'VE
ALL EXPRESSED AS AN ISSUE HERE IN OUR COMMUNITY. AND THAT IS AFFORDABLE HOUSING,
OBVIOUSLY. 
          SO. BUT I DIDN'T WANT TO GLOSS OVER THE FACT THAT BY BUILDING A NEW HOME,
WE'RE ALSO HELPING WITH RESILIENCY ISSUE THAT WE HAVE AS WELL. 
          AND WITH THAT SAID, I WANTED TO FOCUS IN ON THE SENTENCE HERE IN OUR MEMORANDUM,
WHICH STATES THROUGH ITS APPLICATION AND SCREENING PROCESS, HABITAT CAN PRIORITIZE APPLICANTS WHO ARE EMPLOYEES OF THE CITY,
THE CARTER COUNTY SCHOOL DISTRICT, OR OTHER EMPLOYERS WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS. SO WE ARE ABLE TO AS BECAUSE LET'S NOT FORGET,
WE WE ARE HERE TO BENEFIT THE CITY OF NAPLES. 
          SO ACCORDING TO OUR MEMORANDUM HERE, WE WILL SPECIFICALLY BE ABLE TO DO THAT WITH THIS
PROGRAM. 
          WE CAN PRIORITIZE THOSE HERE IN THE CITY THAT THAT WORK FOR THE CITY,
WORK FOR OUR CITY SCHOOLS. 
          AND WE CAN WE CAN REALLY FOCUS ON HELPING THOSE MEMBERS OF,
OF OUR COMMUNITY WITH AFFORDABLE HOUSING. 
          AND AGAIN, I, WE ALL UP HERE HAVE HAVE I'VE GOTTEN TO THE POINT WHERE WE REALIZE THAT
EVERY DECISION WE MAKE, ALMOST EVERY DECISION WE MAKE, HAS TO BE VIEWED THROUGH THE LENS OF RESILIENCY. 
          SO LET'S NOT GLOSS OVER THE FACT THAT THIS ACTUALLY WOULD ALSO BE HELPING RESILIENCY. 
          IT IS A CHALLENGE. IT IS A CHALLENGE. YOU'RE RIGHT. 
          MAYOR'S PHONE. SO AGAIN, I THINK IT IS WORTH EXPLORING BASED ON THAT ALONE. 
          THANK YOU. MEMBER CRAMER. I'M 100% WITH YOU ON THE THE DIFFERENT. 
          I'VE WE'VE I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WERE INVOLVED BACK WHEN I WOULD TAKE PLAYERS AND WE'D WORK
WITH HABITAT AND ALSO PLENTY OF FRIENDS THAT HAVE HABITAT HOMES. 
          IT'S A BIG DEAL TO HAVE HOME OWNERSHIP. MY QUESTION IS THIS THE TENSION THAT EXISTS IN MY
HEAD IS IF WE HAD AFFORDABLE RENTAL HOUSING AND THE THE FIREFIGHTER TEACHER, WHOEVER THAT WORKS FOR THE CITY. 
          QUIT WORKING FOR US. TOOK ANOTHER JOB AND IT WAS A RENTAL PROPERTY. 
          WE CAN BOUTTE HIM. BUT IF THEY OWN IT, THEN WHAT? YEAH. HOW DOES THAT WORK? THAT'S A OWNERSHIP QUESTION. 
          THEY DO HAVE OWNERSHIP, AND THAT'S THERE'S A TRICKY BALANCE BETWEEN CONTINUING TO PROVIDE
OWNERSHIP OR HOME OWNERSHIP AND STABILITY FOR THAT FAMILY. JUST BECAUSE THEY'RE TAKING A DIFFERENT JOB DOESN'T MEAN
THEY'RE NOT STILL CONTRIBUTING TO THE COMMUNITY. 
          WHERE THE DOESN'T MEAN THEY ARE EITHER. DOESN'T MEAN THEY ARE,
BUT WHERE WE TRY TO STAY INVOLVED IN THE LIFE CYCLE OF THE HOMES AND IN THE COMMUNITIES AS THE RESTRICTIONS PLACED ON THAT PROPERTY SURVIVE THE OWNERSHIP AND,
AND THAT'S WHERE THE CONTROLS ARE MAINTAINED. SO AS THEY INCREASE THEIR OPPORTUNITIES AND MOVE ON,
THAT HOME THEN STILL HAS THE CAPABILITY OF REMAINING IN AFFORDABILITY THROUGH DIFFERENT METRICS WE CAN TALK ABOUT LATER ON. I GET THAT WHEN THEY'RE READY TO GO,
I GET THAT. 
          I'M JUST WONDERING ABOUT THAT. WOULD THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE NEED TO BE SOME MAYBE A
CONTRACTUAL POINT WITH THE, YOU KNOW, WITH THE EMPLOYEE SHOULD THEY, YOU KNOW,
MOVE? THEY WOULD NEED TO MAYBE FULFILL AN OBLIGATION OR THAT THERE'S A CERTAIN TIME LENGTH WITH
THE EMPLOYEE. 
          SO THAT'S THAT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING TO JUST TALK ABOUT THERE. 
          OKAY. THANKS. YEAH. HAVE YOU HAVE YOU EVER IN ANY OF YOUR PROJECTS HISTORICALLY HERE IN
COLLIER COUNTY HAD THE PROJECT INCLUDE A PROVISION AROUND THE PROPERTIES BEING TARGETED TOWARD CERTAIN GROUPS, YOU KNOW WHETHER PUBLIC EMPLOYEES OR SCHOOL TEACHERS OR FIRST RESPONDERS, HAS THAT EVER COME UP IN THE PAST. 
          THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. I'VE BEEN HERE SINCE MAY. 
          I HAVE NOT EXPLORED THAT QUESTION. I DO KNOW THAT WE'RE PART OF THE FAIR HOUSING ACT
COMPLIANT. 
          SO WHILE WE DO HAVE TO MAINTAIN THOSE STANDARDS,
WE CAN LOOK INTO THAT AND SEE WHAT THE. 
          I WAS JUST CURIOUS IF THERE'S ANY ANY EXPERIENCE WITH IT THAT'S REALLY SUPERCEDES MY
EXPERIENCE WITH THE COMPANY, 
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BUT I'M SURE LISA CAN CIRCLE BACK WITH YOU ON THAT. 
          OKAY. THANK YOU, VICE MAYOR. YEAH. SO THIS I APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS OF COUNCILMAN BARTON
AND COUNCILMAN KRAMER. SEVERAL OF US, I'M SURE, HAVE PROBABLY HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH
HABITAT, AND I CERTAINLY HAVE OUR FAMILY HAS AND AND PROUD THAT HABITAT IS SOMEONE WHO AN
ORGANIZATION WE DON'T HAVE TO QUESTION. THEY'VE DELIVERED THOUSANDS OF HOMES FOR THE PEOPLE IN IN THIS
IMMEDIATE AREA. 
          SO I LIKE THE FACT THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO TAKE A CHANCE. 
          WE KNOW WHAT HABITAT IS CAPABLE OF AND HOW HOW THEY'RE MISSION FOCUSED. 
          SO FOR THIS ANOTHER SENTENCE IN THIS MEMORANDUM HERE HABITAT OF COLLIER HAS APPROACHED THE
CRA WITH AN OPPORTUNITY TO PARTNER IN PURCHASING PROPERTIES AND REBUILDING HOMES TO PRESERVE
AFFORDABLE WORKFORCE HOUSING IN THE AREA. AND YEAH, THERE'S AN EXPENSE THAT COMES WITH THAT. 
          BUT THERE'S A PARTNERING OPPORTUNITY HERE THAT RESONATES WITH ME,
AND I BELIEVE IT HITS OUR IT HITS THE BULLSEYE OF WHAT WE WANT TO DO, WHAT WE CAN DO ANYWAY IN RIVER PARK EAST. 
          SO I SUPPORT IT AND BELIEVE THAT THE FAMILY,
THE, THE WHOEVER, IF WE'VE ONLY GOT ONE HOME OPPORTUNITY AT THIS TIME. 
          AND, MR. CHAIRMAN, I THINK YOU FRAMED THIS UP AS DIRECTING OUR STAFF TO DESIGN,
YOU KNOW, WORK ON DESIGN IN THE PROGRAM. AND I'M JUST NOT SURE WHAT THAT WORKLOAD IS,
BUT IF THEY CAN DO THIS CONCURRENTLY WITH THE OTHER WORK THAT WE'RE DOING IN RIVER PARK EAST. GREAT. THEN WE'RE WE'RE WE'RE BUILDING A CLOCK INSTEAD OF
TELLING TIME. 
          AND I THINK THAT THAT THAT HAS MERIT. THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MEMBER PETROV. YES, I THOUGHT I HEARD YOU SAY THAT YOU RAISE HOMES
AS WELL. 
          IS THAT CORRECT? EXISTING HOMES THAT MEET A CRITERIA? YES. WE, AS A HOME BUILDER, WE EVALUATE EVERY INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY FOR ITS BEST USE AND
BEST IMPACT THAT WE CAN HAVE ON THE HOME, THE FAMILY AND THE COMMUNITY. 
          SO I BELIEVE THEY HAVE RAISED HOMES. I PERSONALLY HAVEN'T BEEN PART OF THAT HISTORY OF
THEM HERE, BUT I THINK SO. SO SHOULD WE DECIDE, BECAUSE THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT RAISING
EXISTING PEOPLE'S HOMES WITHIN THE RIVER PARK EAST COMMUNITY. YOU COULD POSSIBLY PARTNER WITH US TO DO THAT? YEAH, POSSIBLY. NOW, AS FAR AS HIRING THE SPECIALISTS,
THERE ARE THE SPECIALISTS THAT ARE INVOLVED IN THAT. 
          JUST AS WHEN WE HIRE OUR TRADESMEN TO DO THE ELECTRICAL,
ROOFING, THE TRADES THAT ARE VERY SPECIALIZED WHEN YOU ARE PRESERVING THAT HOME, IT'S A VERY DELICATE PROCESS TO, AS THEY MENTIONED,
DIG UNDER IT AND LIFT IT. 
          AND SO THAT'S WHERE WE WOULD HIRE A SPECIALIST TO DO THAT IF IT WAS DECIDED THAT WE WOULD
PARTNER WITH YOU. 
          SO YOU SERVE AS A SORT OF A GENERAL CONTRACTOR. 
          OKAY. OKAY. A GENERAL CONTRACTOR ON THESE. SO THAT WE COULD USE YOU IN A DIFFERENT NUMBER
OF, OF WAYS. AND IN TERMS OF A PERSON QUITTING BEING A TEACHER AND DOING SOMETHING ELSE. 
          DO YOU WHAT ARE SOME OF THE TYPICAL RESTRICTIONS THAT YOU HAVE ON,
OR THAT WE CAN DO ON SOME OF THESE TO ENSURE THAT THESE HOMES STAY IN THE HANDS AS INTENDED? THOSE ARE USUALLY BASED AROUND THE AREA MEDIAN INCOME AND
THE QUALIFICATIONS WITH BOTH THE COUNTY AND STATE LEVEL AND NATIONAL LEVELS. 
          WE SERVE THE AREA MEDIAN INCOME AVERAGE BETWEEN 33% UP TO 80% OF THE ARMY. 
          AND AS YOU KNOW, THAT'S AROUND $93,000 ON THAT HIGHER END. 
          AND SO MOST TEACHERS THAT I KNOW DON'T MAKE ANYWHERE NEAR $93,000. 
          AND SO THOSE ARE THE RESTRICTIONS AS WE BUILD AND DECIDE UPON WHAT THAT PROPERTY IS BEST
FIT FOR AND WHAT TYPES OF RESTRICTIONS. 
          THOSE ARE COMMUNICATED THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE PROCESS AND PUT INTO PLACE SO THAT WHEN THE
OWNER OWNER RESELLS THERE IS A PLAN IN PLACE TO ALLOW FOR AFFORDABILITY FOR THE NEXT PURCHASER AS WELL. 
          SO SOMEBODY IN YOUR IN YOUR SHOP MONITORS THAT RESTRICTION. 
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SO WHEN IT GOES TO RESALE, SOMEHOW WE KNOW, YOU KNOW,
IT'S RECORDED. 
          IT'S RECORDED WITH THE COUNTY AS WELL AS A COVENANT OR THE INSTRUMENT AND A DEED
RESTRICTION. 
          AND SO THAT WAY IT'S NOT JUST US MONITORING IT,
BUT IT'S ALSO IN THE PROCESS AS WELL. 
          OKAY. AND HAVE YOU LOOKED AT THE FOUR HOMES THAT WERE WERE FOR SALE? WERE YOU INVOLVED WITH THAT AT ALL OR WAS IT JUST BRIEFLY. 
          NO. YES. WE, I WAS BRIEFLY THERE WERE THREE OF THEM AND THEN ONE SOLD REALLY QUICKLY. 
          WE. IT HAPPENED SO FAST THAT WE DIDN'T DIVE FULLY INTO IT BEFORE THEY WERE GONE,
BUT IT SHOWED US THAT THERE'S OPPORTUNITY THAT DOES SURFACE, AND THERE IS THAT ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO DIRECT FUNDS TO KEEP THE INTENT OF THE COMMUNITY
WHERE IT IS. 
          OKAY. AND SO THAT'S WHERE THIS ASK IS, AND THE CONVERSATION IS GOING IS TO BE ABLE TO
DIRECT FUNDS OR A LINE ITEM IN ADDITION TO WHAT'S ALREADY BEEN ASKED FOR THE COMMUNITY TO ALLOW PRESERVATION OR ADDITIONAL OWNER AFFORDABILITY THROUGH
THROUGH THE INJECTION OF NEW HOMES OR RENOVATION OF HOMES IN THE COMMUNITY. SO IF WE WERE TO BUY THIS PROPERTY,
YOU KNOW, THEY WERE GOING FOR AROUND 400 AND ASSUMING ASSUMING THAT WE DO THAT AND THEN WE IT'S PROBABLY WOULD NEED TO BE RAISED,
FOR EXAMPLE, THAT'S ANOTHER 300. 
          SO WE'RE TALKING 700. THAT OF THESE PRECIOUS DOLLARS THAT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT THAT ARE
LIMITED. 
          GO THERE'S A THERE'S A FINE THERE'S A FINE LINE. 
          THERE'S A FINE BALANCE TO WALK BETWEEN DECIDING ON WHERE THESE PRECIOUS DOLLARS ARE GOING
TOWARDS AND WHEN IT'S HOME BEING TURNED OVER. SOMETIMES IT MAY NOT BE ADVANTAGEOUS TO KEEP IT OR RAISE IT. 
          MAYBE IT'S MORE ADVANTAGEOUS AND COST EFFECTIVE TO DEMOLISH IT AND TO BUILD A NEW HOME PER
STANDARD. 
          AND SO EVERY SINGLE INDIVIDUAL HOME IS ITS UNIQUE CASE SCENARIO THAT NEEDS TO BE
EVALUATED. 
          AND SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT. 
          HOW CAN THERE BE THE MOST IMPACT GIVEN WITH THE AMOUNT OF DONATIONS,
THE AMOUNT OF FUNDING, THE AMOUNT OF EFFORT PUT INTO IT TO HAVE THE END RESULT TO BE AS IMPACTFUL AS POSSIBLE? OKAY. SO THERE'D BE FUNDING FROM NON FROM THE NON PROFIT FOR THIS COUPLED WITH POTENTIALLY
CRA DOLLARS POTENTIAL CRA DOLLARS AND THEN WORK LOAD FROM HABITAT AS WELL AND BUILDING THE BUILDING ITSELF AND
SO OR RENOVATING IT. 
          WE HAVE A LARGE WORKFORCE THAT FOCUSES ON THAT IN ADDITION TO THE VOLUNTEER EFFORTS. 
          SO IN THE IN THE VERY BRIEF CONCEPTUAL CONVERSATIONS WE HAD THE PARTNERSHIP THAT WAS
DISCUSSED WAS THE CITY WOULD ACQUIRE THE PROPERTY, DEMOLISH THE HOUSE AND HABITAT WOULD BE
RESPONSIBLE FOR CONSTRUCTING THE NEW HOUSE, AND EVERYTHING AFTER THAT WOULD BE ON THE HABITAT SIDE. 
          NOW THAT THE NATURE OF THE PARTNERSHIP COULD BE SOMETHING DIFFERENT. 
          I'M JUST IT DOES. YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT LOCKED INTO ANY MODEL,
BUT. 
          THE POINT OF ME SAYING THAT IS TO SAY THAT WHAT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT CONCEPTUALLY WAS,
YOU KNOW, A TRUE KIND OF AS MUCH AS SOMETHING CAN BE A 50 OVER 50 PARTNERSHIP. 
          OKAY. BOTH BOTH FROM A FINANCIAL AND FROM A,
FROM OTHER STANDPOINTS. 
          GOING DOWN THAT KIND OF A ROAD. OKAY. WELL, I THINK IT'S I THINK IT'S INTERESTING. 
          I'M A LITTLE AFRAID OF THE DOLLARS THAT, YOU KNOW,
THAT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THESE, THE SIP GOING FORWARD AND, YOU KNOW, I GUESS I, I WOULD RATHER SEE IF WE PARTNER WITH YOU. 
          YOU POTENTIALLY LIFT THE LIFT. EXISTING HOMES FOR PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY. 
          YEAH. THAT'S A IT'S THE DELICATE BALANCE OF HOW MUCH IMPACT TO HOW MUCH INVESTMENT YOU CAN
MAKE. 
          SO WE HAVE TO WALK THAT EVERY DAY. SO THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. OKAY. SO TO TO MOVE THIS ALONG. DO WE HAVE? WHAT'S WHAT'S THE CONSENSUS ON THE BOARD, REALLY A QUESTION OF ARE WE DO WE THINK THERE'S
ENOUGH OPPORTUNITY AND POSSIBILITY HERE THAT WE WANT TO DIRECT STAFF TO LOOK INTO IT,
WORKING WITH HABITAT AND BRING IT BACK TO US WITH SOME OPTIONS? MR. KRAMER, AS MUCH AS I LOVE HABITAT, I I WOULD LIKE TO PUT THIS ON THE BACK BURNER UNTIL
WE HAVE THE NEXT MEETING. 
          WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IN RIVER PARK EAST THAT WE'RE ALREADY TALKING
ABOUT DOING AND HOW TO FUND THAT. 
          I DON'T WANT TO ADD ANYTHING TO STAFF'S PLATE THAT THAT NEEDS TO GET EXPEDITED. 
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I DON'T THINK IF YOU SAY, WELL, WE'LL DO IT SIMULTANEOUSLY,
THEN YOU'RE JUST SLOWING THEM DOWN. DON'T ADD ANYTHING TO IT. 
          LET'S WE'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT WE WANT TO DO LET'S GET MOVING AS QUICKLY AND EFFICIENTLY
AS WE CAN ON WHAT WE SAY WE WANT TO DO IN RIVER PARK EAST. 
          AND THEN AS MUCH AS I'M FOR WORKFORCE HOUSING,
I JUST THINK THAT THE TWO ARE MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE. 
          THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT CONVERSATIONS, MAN. WE'RE TRYING TO HELP. SOMETHING THAT NEEDED TO
BE DONE A LONG TIME AGO ON THAT END. 
          AND I'D RATHER JUST SEE THAT THROUGH AND THEN HAVE THE CONVERSATION ABOUT HABITAT. 
          ONCE WE AT LEAST SEE WHAT THE FINANCIALS LOOK LIKE. YEAH. THAT'S SO WHAT I,
WHAT I HEAR YOU SAY IS YOUR POSITION IS IS NOT NO OR. YES, BUT NOT NOW. THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT. 
          NOT NOW. LET'S FINISH WHAT WE STARTED. LET'S GO DOWN THE ROW HERE. 
          MEMBER PETRANOFF. I AGREE WITH COUNCIL MEMBER KRAMER. 
          I WAS GOING TO CALL YOU COACH, BUT VICE MAYOR. 
          NO, I THINK IT'S SOMETHING WE CAN DO CONCURRENTLY. 
          SO YOU'RE MOVING AHEAD NOW. THANK YOU. MAYOR. 
          I REALLY WOULD LOOK AT STAFF AND ASK IF THAT'S SOME TIME THAT YOU HAVE TO LOOK INTO THAT. 
          OH, LOOK AT STAFF AND ASK FOR AN ANALYSIS ON WHETHER THAT'S SOMETHING THAT FITS IN WITH
OUR PRIORITIES. 
          FITS IN WITH THE CRA, HOW WE WOULD GO ABOUT IT. 
          AND THEN. IT IS SOMETHING THAT AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS IN YOUR REDEVELOPMENT PLAN. 
          SO YOU CAN LAWFULLY SPEND MONEY ON THAT. AND IT IS IT IS UP TO YOU TO SET YOUR PRIORITIES. 
          AND WE'LL TAKE YOUR DIRECTION BASED ON YOUR PRIORITIES OF WHAT WORKLOAD YOU WANT US TO TO
MOVE FORWARD WITH. 
          AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THEY WOULD HELP IN VETTING IF WE WERE TO PURCHASE IT AND PUT MONEY
INTO IT, THEY WOULD VET WHO WOULD ONE FAMILY WOULD GO OR WOULD GO INTO THAT HOME. 
          YES. AND SPEAKING WITH REVEREND LISA, THE CEO THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT THAT SHE OFFERED AS
A POSSIBILITY. 
          EACH EACH HABITAT FAMILY HAS TO GO THROUGH AN APPLICATION PROCESS. 
          SO THE WAY THAT THIS WORKS IS THAT THE FAMILY TAKES ON THAT MORTGAGE AT ZERO INTEREST. 
          SO THEY HAVE A STAKE IN THE COMMUNITY AND SOME STABILITY IN THE COMMUNITY TO KEEP WORKING
HERE. 
          SO THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT SHE OFFERED AS A POTENTIAL POSSIBILITY IN THE APPLICATION
PROCESS TO PRIORITIZE THE NEEDS OF THOSE IN THE CITY. SO THAT BEING SAID, I APPRECIATE THE WORK FROM HABITAT FOR HUMANITY. 
          FOR ALL THE WORK YOU'VE DONE, EVEN THE ONE THAT'S IN LAKE PARK. 
          I LOOK FORWARD TO MAYBE A FUTURE PARTNERSHIP,
BUT I AT THIS TIME, I AGREE WITH THE OTHER MEMBERS OF COUNCIL THAT IT IT REALLY ISN'T IN LINE WITH WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO RIGHT NOW. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 48 YEARS WE'VE BEEN HERE, SO WE'LL STILL BE HERE. 
          THANK YOU. YEAH. MY MY INCLINATION IS MY INCLINATION IS TO TO BEND TO THE WILL OF COUNCIL
HERE. 
          I DON'T FEEL LIKE I DON'T WANT TO. I DON'T WANT TO SHOVE A BUNCH OF STUFF ON OUR STAFF'S
AGENDA AND WORKLOAD THAT'S GOING TO CAUSE ISSUES. 
          I CERTAINLY IS A WORTHY CAUSE, AND I IT NEEDS TO BE IF WE ARE GOING NOT GOING TO PROCEED
NOW, WE NEED TO TO MAKE IT A PRIORITY TO READDRESS AND REVISIT. 
          AND I THINK IT'S A WELL, I THINK IT'S A WORTHY CAUSE AND WE PROBABLY SHOULD DO THIS SOONER
THAN LATER. 
          BUT AGAIN IF WILL THE COUNCIL IS TO TO PUMP THE BRAKES A BIT AND TACKLE IT A SLIGHTLY
LATER DATE. 
          I'M OKAY WITH THAT. BUT I CERTAINLY DO THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT THAT'S WORTH OUR TIME AND
ATTENTION AND MONEY. 
          MEMBER PENMAN I THINK IT'S AN INTRIGUING IDEA. 
          I'D LIKE TO KNOW A LITTLE BIT MORE. I THINK ABOUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND PERHAPS WHAT THEIR
NEEDS ARE GOING INTO THE FUTURE. 
          FOR INSTANCE, THEY, YOU KNOW, IT'S POSSIBLE THAT THERE ARE SOME EMPTY NESTERS,
BUT THEY'VE GOT MOM LIVING, YOU KNOW, 80 BLOCKS AWAY KIND OF THING. AND YES,
IT WOULD BE WONDERFUL IF THEY COULD. 
          THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. SO I'D LIKE TO KNOW A LITTLE BIT MORE,
I THINK, ABOUT THEIR NEEDS GOING INTO THE FUTURE, AND PERHAPS HOW WE COULD THEN PARTNER AFTER THAT. 
          ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. WE WE ACTUALLY WE DO HAVE ONE PUBLIC SPEAKER ON THIS
ISSUE, JOAN AND I. IS IT BERG OR. I DON'T KNOW IF SHE'S STILL HERE OR IS THERE SOMEBODY OUT
THERE? NO, SHE MUST HAVE LEFT. AND SO. HEY, MISTER. SO WE HAVE YOU KNOW, A MIXED, A MIXED SET OF VIEWS HERE,
I WOULD SAY ON ON ON ON THIS. I THINK THAT THE PRUDENT THING TO DO,
PARTICULARLY GIVEN OUR EARLIER CONVERSATIONS, 
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WOULD BE TO DEFER THIS FOR NOW. AND AND BUT,
DEREK, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR YOU AND REVEREND LISA AND THE HABITAT TEAM TO KNOW THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO
REVISIT. 
          ABSOLUTELY. AND REVISIT. NOT IN THE LONG TERM,
BUT IN THE SHORT TERM AFTER WE PERHAPS IN OUR NEXT IN OUR FIRST COUPLE OF MEETINGS IN 2026 REACH SOME DECISIONS ON SOME OTHER THINGS,
HAVE A BETTER SENSE OF WHAT THE OVERALL CRA BUDGET IS GOING FORWARD. 
          AND AND SEE HOW THIS MIGHT FIT INTO THAT. SO APPRECIATE YOUR TIME TODAY. 
          AND, AND YOU KNOW, CONSIDER THIS A CONVERSATION TO BE CONTINUED. 
          GREAT. IS THAT FINE WITH EVERYBODY? YES. THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. OKAY. IT'S 1249. 
          IT'S 1249. WE NEED TO TAKE A BREAK FOR LUNCH. 
          LET'S COME BACK AT 1:00. OKAY. WE'RE BACK IN SESSION FOR THE DECEMBER 4TH COMMUNITY
REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING AFTER A BRIEF LUNCH RECESS. AND WE'RE ON ITEM NINE B,
WHICH IS A RESOLUTION. 
          [9.B) A Resolution of the Community Redevelopment Agency (CRA) of the City of Naples, Florida, Adopting the CRA Fiscal Year 2025-26 Residential Improvement Program to Aid With Residential Improvements for Homesteaded or Owner-Occupied Properties Within the River Park East Neighborhood in the Total Amount Not-To-Exceed $200,000; Requiring an Annual Affidavit Demonstrating That Property is Owner-Occupied With Verification of Income Eligibility; Authorizing the CRA Executive Director to Approve Individual Applications Meeting the Program Requirements in the Total Amount Not-To-Exceed $40,000 for Each Application; and Providing an Effective Date. ]
MR. MCCONNELL, WOULD YOU LIKE TO READ THAT? YES. 
          THANK YOU. CHAIR KRISEMAN, A RESOLUTION OF THE COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY,
CRA OF THE CITY OF NAPLES, FLORIDA, ADOPTING THE CRA FISCAL YEAR 20 2526 RESIDENTIAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM TO AID WITH
RESIDENTIAL IMPROVEMENTS FOR HOMESTEADED OR OWNER OCCUPIED PROPERTIES WITHIN THE RIVER PARK EAST NEIGHBORHOOD, IN THE TOTAL AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED 200,000,
REQUIRING AN ANNUAL AFFIDAVIT DEMONSTRATING THAT THE PROPERTY IS OWNER OCCUPIED WITH VERIFICATION OF INCOME ELIGIBILITY. AUTHORIZING THE CRA EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR TO APPROVE
INDIVIDUAL APPLICATIONS MEETING THE PROGRAM REQUIREMENTS, AND THE TOTAL AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $40,000 FOR EACH APPLICATION AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE
DATE. 
          VERY GOOD, MR. JENKINS. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. 
          YOU HAVE IN YOUR PACKETS TODAY A REDLINED VERSION OF YOUR RESIDENTIAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM. 
          THIS RESIDENTIAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM WAS CONSIDERED BY YOUR ADVISORY BOARD ON OCTOBER
27TH. 
          THEY DID RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE 26 PROGRAM WITH A FEW MODIFICATIONS. 
          THOSE MODIFICATIONS WERE INCORPORATED THAT STAFF FOUND AGREEABLE TO INTO THE DOCUMENT. 
          AND THOSE ARE OUTLINED ON PAGE TWO OF YOUR AGENDA,
MEMORANDUM NUMBER ONE THROUGH SEVEN. 
          THE FIRST ITEM I WILL MENTION IN THERE RECOMMENDATION IS THAT ELIGIBLE IMPROVEMENT SHOULD BE ADDED THAT WOULD INVOLVE ANYTHING RELATED TO THE ELEVATION
OF A HOME, AND THIS WAS MORE SPECIFIC TO INTERIOR IMPROVEMENT. 
          SO IF SOMETHING SOME DAMAGE WAS CAUSED DURING THE ELEVATION OF A HOME,
THEN THAT WOULD BECOME AN ELIGIBLE IMPROVEMENT. 
          STAFF'S RED LINE VERSION MODIFIES THIS SECTION TO INCLUDE ANYTHING THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED
BY A BUILDING PERMIT. 
          THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS MEASURABLE AND TRACKABLE AND REQUIRED BY THE CITY,
SO THAT THAT LANGUAGE WAS INCORPORATED TO INCLUDE ANYTHING REQUIRED FOR FOR A BUILDING PERMIT. AND THAT'S THAT BUILDING PERMIT REALLY ADDRESSES
EXTERIOR IMPROVEMENTS FOR THE PERMIT. 
          THE SECOND ITEM WAS TO ADD ELIGIBLE IMPROVEMENTS FOR AIR CONDITIONING SYSTEMS. THOSE WERE ORIGINALLY IN AND THEN REMOVED AND THEN ADDED BACK IN AS THE AIR CONDITIONING
SYSTEM IS FOUND TO BE A NECESSITY IN FLORIDA, SO THAT THAT WAS ADDED BACK IN AS A AS AN IMPROVEMENT. 
          THE CRAB DID RECOMMEND CHANGING THE NAME OF THE PROGRAM. 
          THE THE PROGRAM ACRONYM IS SOMETHING THAT SOME FIND A CHALLENGE. 
          SO ON YOUR REDLINE VERSION, WE WENT FROM THE RIP TO THE HIP. 
          SO WE HAVE MODIFIED IT TO HOME IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM IN THIS VERSION TO ADDRESS THAT CONCERN
OF THE ADVISORY BOARD. 
          THERE WAS ALSO A CONSIDERATION TO REMOVE THE REQUIREMENT OF BANK STATEMENTS. 
          CURRENTLY IN PART OF THE PROCESS IS THAT YOU HAVE TO PROVIDE THE LAST THREE MONTHS OF BANK
STATEMENTS AND THROUGH DISCUSSION THE CRAB FELT AND STAFF DID NOT DISAGREE THAT THEIR TAX RETURNS AND THEIR PAY STUBS WAS ADEQUATE TO
VERIFY THEIR INCOME, 
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RATHER THAN GOING BACK THROUGH BANK STATEMENTS THAT MIGHT NOT HAVE RELEVANCE IN THEIR
OVERALL INCOME FOR ANNUAL. 
          THE NEXT THING WAS TO REVISE THE PROGRAM TO PUT THE THE MANAGEMENT OF THE THE IMPROVEMENT
AND THE SECURING THE CONTRACTOR TO THE HOMEOWNER RATHER THAN THE CRA HAVING AN OVERALL CONTRACTOR. 
          THE CRABS DISCUSSION ON THAT POINT WAS THAT WE SEEM TO BE SPENDING FUNDS FOR CONTRACTORS
PAYING UP FOR THEIR SUBCONTRACTORS. SO IF YOU'VE DEALT WITH CONTRACTORS BEFORE,
THERE'S ALWAYS A 15% SURCHARGE ON ITEMS. SO THE CRAB FELT LIKE, LET'S GIVE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE RESIDENTS TO PROVIDE UP TO TWO
BIDS FROM THEIR OWN CONTRACTORS, SO THEY'RE NOT. THE FUNDS FOR THE IMPROVEMENTS ARE BEING USED AND STRETCHED TO THE
GREATEST ABILITY POSSIBLE, AND THAT ALSO ALLOWS THE HOMEOWNER TO WORK DIRECTLY WITH THE WITH THEIR COMPANIES TO
SCHEDULE THE PROJECTS TO MEET THEIR TIMELINES AT A GREATER DEGREE. THE NEXT ITEM WAS TO ALLOW FOR REIMBURSEMENT FUNDING IN CASES OF
EMERGENCY. 
          SO THE CRA DISCUSSED, WELL, IF A CURRENTLY AS THE PROGRAM IS WRITTEN,
IT CAN'T BE A REIMBURSEMENT. 
          SO YOU HAVE TO APPLY FOR FUNDING THAT IS NEEDED. 
          YOU CAN'T APPLY FOR FUNDING THAT YOU'VE ALREADY PAID SOMETHING FOR. 
          SO FOR INSTANCE, IF YOUR AIR CONDITIONER GOES OUT AND THAT'S AN EMERGENCY,
THE THE CRAB DECIDED THAT THAT WOULD BE A REIMBURSABLE. 
          THAT'S NOT PUT IN HERE AS IT'S DRAFTED. WHAT WE HAVE FOUND IS THAT IF YOUR AIR
CONDITIONING IS APPROACHING AN AGE WHERE YOU CAN ANTICIPATE THAT IT'S GOING TO GO OUT IN THE NEXT YEAR OR SO,
IF IT'S REACHING ITS LIFESPAN, THEN YOU SHOULD GO AHEAD AND PREPARE FOR THAT AND APPLY BEFORE YOU GET INTO AN EMERGENCY
SITUATION. 
          LASTLY, THEIR RECOMMENDATION WAS TO ROLL ROLL ANYTHING,
ANY OF THE FUNDS FORWARD EACH YEAR IN YOUR BUDGET THAT HAVE NOT BEEN SPENT? THAT IS NOT PUT IN THIS PROGRAM. THE BUDGET AND WHAT YOU DECIDE TO ROLL FORWARD IS, IS ON THE CRAS DISCRETION. SO YOU HAVE THAT ABILITY TO DO THAT EVERY YEAR. 
          BUT WE DIDN'T PUT IT IN THE PROGRAM AS A POLICY TO,
TO MAKE THAT DECISION FOR YOU. 
          BUT YOU CAN MAKE THAT DECISION EACH YEAR DURING BUDGET IF YOU WANTED TO ROLL THE FUNDS
FORWARD. 
          SO THOSE WERE THE CHANGES THAT WERE MADE IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE CRAB RECOMMENDATIONS. 
          ONE OTHER ITEM THAT WE HAVE REMOVED FROM ELIGIBLE IMPROVEMENTS ARE THE FLOOD BARRIERS. 
          WE LEARNED A LOT FROM OUR OWN STAFF. THE CHALLENGES OF THESE FLOOD BARRIERS. 
          SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT THAT IS NOT AN ELIGIBLE IMPROVEMENT THROUGH THIS PROGRAM AT THIS
TIME. 
          BASED ON THE FINDINGS OF OF THE WORKSHOP THAT WAS HAD BY OUR STAFF. 
          OTHER THAN THAT, THE FUNDING IS ALLOCATED IN YOUR BUDGET UP TO 200,000. 
          IT'S NOT ENCUMBERED YET. BUT IT IS ALLOCATED. 
          SO IF YOU REPRIORITIZE THAT THAT IS A FUNDING POT THAT YOU HAVE AN ABILITY TO REPRIORITIZE
IF YOU CHOOSE TO DO THAT, THE. THE FUNDING AMOUNT IS MAINTAINED AT 40,000 PER APPLICATION. 
          SO THAT IS A SUMMARY OF THE CHANGES THAT ARE PRESENTED TO YOU IN THE RED LINE FORM. 
          OKAY. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU, MISS JENKINS. WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS GO THROUGH THE SEVEN
RECOMMENDED CHANGES TO THE PROGRAM ONE BY ONE AND SEE WHAT OUR VIEW IS ON IT. 
          SO, NUMBER ONE, AD ELIGIBLE IMPROVEMENTS FOR ANY ITEMS,
EXTERIOR OR INTERIOR THAT ARE RELATED TO THE HOME. 
          AND THEN, AS MISS JENKINS SAID, ALSO AS PART OF THAT RELATED TO THAT,
I GUESS STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THAT HOME ELEVATION AND RELATED IMPROVEMENTS TO HOME ELEVATION WOULD BE ELIGIBLE IF THEY. BUT TIED ONLY TO A BUILDING PERMIT BEING REQUIRED? YES. YES. SO VIEWS. COMMENTS ON ON THAT. 
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I THINK ALSO WE MRS. DEAN AND ALONG WITH SUPPORTED BY MISS TAYLOR,
HAD A REQUEST THEY MADE TO THE CRAB ABOUT. AND I THINK THIS IS PROBABLY THE PLACE WHERE WE
SHOULD DISCUSS IT. 
          AND AND THESE ARE THE PICTURES THAT SHE PHOTOGRAPHS THAT SHE. 
          DAVID, DO YOU HAVE SOME PHOTOGRAPHS OF MRS. DEAN'S HOME THAT YOU CAN SHOW US? BUT THERE WAS A REQUEST, I KNOW, TO ALLOW INTERIOR PAINTING TO BE AN INELIGIBLE EXPENSE. 
          CAN YOU TALK ABOUT THAT? YES. SO SO THAT IS WHERE THE DISCUSSION BEGAN. 
          MISS DEAN AND MISS TAYLOR DID COME BEFORE THE BOARD AND SHARED WITH THE BOARD THAT AT THE
TIME THAT THE HOME WAS RAISED THE AS THE EXTERIOR CRACKED, THE INTERIOR WALLS AND PAINT CRACKED AS WELL. 
          SO THERE IS A NEED FOR REPAINTING THE INTERIOR OF HER HOME. 
          AND FROM THAT THOUGHT THE CRAB EXPANDED THAT TO ANYTHING THAT THAT COULD BE ATTRIBUTABLE
TO RAISING A HOME. 
          AND IN MY EXPERIENCE OF GOING THROUGH FLOODING AND INSURANCE AND VERIFICATION OF EVERY
ITEM THAT IS ATTRIBUTABLE TO A FLOOD WOULD BE A CHALLENGE FOR STAFF TO DETERMINE WHAT WAS CAUSED AND WHAT WASN'T CAUSED BY THAT
HOME RAISING, TO VERIFY THAT THAT WOULD BE A CHALLENGE FOR US TO TO VERIFY THOSE THINGS. 
          SO THAT'S WHY YOU MIGHT TAKE THAT ON A ONE OFF BASIS. 
          BUT TO TO MAKE EVERYTHING ELIGIBLE WOULD BE A CHALLENGE FOR STAFF. 
          OKAY. I DON'T KNOW IF DAVID HEARD ME OR NOT. MY MY UNDERSTANDING IS MRS. DEAN HAD SHARED SEVERAL PHOTOGRAPHS THAT HE,
I ASSUME, OF THE INTERIOR HOUSE. 
          I DIDN'T SEE ANY OF THE INTERIOR OF HER HOUSE. 
          I SAW THE ONES THAT WERE UP ON THE EXTERIOR OF THE HOUSE. 
          EXTERIOR? YEAH. SO IT MAY NOT BE GERMANE THEN. 
          OKAY. SO VIEWS ON NUMBER ONE. HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT INCLUDING THE LANGUAGE AS RECOMMENDED
OR MODIFYING IT? VICE MAYOR YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO. SO IN READING THE AGENDA MEMO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE
WE'RE ALL CLEAR ON ON THE PROGRESSION. 
          AND I UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S BEEN A $200,000 PRO BUDGET CAP FOR THE ENTIRE PROGRAM. 
          IT STARTED OUT IT LOOKS LIKE $20,000 PER APPLICATION FOR ELIGIBLE IMPROVEMENTS. 
          THEN IT WENT TO 40,000. RIGHT. CORRECT. AND THEN AUGUST 28TH,
2025, IT ADDED A GRANT IN THE AMOUNT OF 25,000. BUT THAT WAS SPECIFIC TO COMPLETION OF AN
ELEVATION. 
          HOME ELEVATION. CORRECT. RIGHT. SO AS SO WE HAD 40,000. 
          NOW THERE'S AN ADDITIONAL 25,000 THAT IS SPECIFIC TO HOME ELEVATION. 
          THAT'S IS THAT RIGHT OR. NO IT'S PART OF THE 40. 
          YES. SO THE $25,000 GRANT WAS SPECIFIC TO MISS DEEN'S HOME THAT WAS ALREADY BEING RAISED,
AND WE WERE HELPING COVER THE GAP FOR THAT FUNDING. 
          SO THAT'S WHAT THAT $25,000 GRANT WAS SPECIFIC TO ONE PROPERTY. 
          ONE PROPERTY. SO THAT ISN'T SO THAT 25,000 IS NOT A STANDALONE. 
          THAT WAS ONE PROPERTY. IT'S NOT A STANDALONE PROGRAM. 
          NO. SO NOW IF IF A HOMEOWNER DECIDED THAT THEY WANTED TO RAISE TO LIFT THEIR HOME,
THEY WOULD BE ELIGIBLE TO APPLY FOR THE 40,000 TO TO MEET ANY OF THEIR COSTS. 
          40,000 IS WHERE IT'S AT. AND THEN ON THIS ITEM,
ONE THAT WE'RE CONSIDERING, IT'S ADDING ELIGIBLE IMPROVEMENTS FOR ANY ITEMS, EXTERIOR OR INTERIOR THAT ARE RELATED TO THE ELEVATION OF A HOME. 
          SO WITHIN 40,000, AGAIN, ANY ELIGIBLE IMPROVEMENTS INTERIOR THAT ARE RELATED TO ELEVATION
OF A HOME ARE INCLUDED IN THE 40,000. YES. IF IF IF ON THE CRABS. 
          ON THE CRABS. RECOMMENDATION ON ITEM ONE. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE. YES. 
          BUT AGAIN TO BE CLEAR, WHAT YOU'RE READING FROM IS THE CRAB'S RECOMMENDATION. 
          YES. AND ON THIS ONE, WHAT MISS JENKINS IS, IS RECOMMENDING AS OUR STAFF IS THAT IN THAT
NUMBER ONE THAT ELIGIBLE IMPROVEMENTS, EXTERIOR OR INTERIOR RELATED ELEVATION BE BE COVERED SO
LONG, 
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BUT ONLY SO LONG AS THEY ARE RELATED TO THE ISSUANCE OF THE BUILDING PERMIT FOR THE
PROPERTY. 
          SO WE REALLY HAVE TWO DECISIONS TO MAKE. DO WE WANT TO ALLOW ELIGIBLE IMPROVEMENTS FOR THE
ELEVATION OF A HOME GENERALLY, OR DO WE WANT TO ALLOW IT, BUT HAVE IT BE TIED TO THE ISSUANCE OF A PERMIT,
A BUILDING PERMIT? DO I HAVE THAT RIGHT, MR. JENKINS? YES. AND THAT'S REALLY THE DECISION. 
          YES. AND TO BE CLEAR, THE $25,000 GRANT, THOSE IMPROVEMENTS WERE TIED TO A BUILDING
PERMIT. 
          THEY NEEDED TO FINISH THOSE ITEMS TO GET THE CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY FOR MISS DEAN TO
MOVE BACK IN. 
          SO WE WE TOOK THAT AND MOVED THAT INTO THE PROGRAM. 
          SO THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE CRAB RECOMMENDATION OF ANYTHING AND STAFF'S
RECOMMENDATION TO TO TIE IT TO A BUILDING PERMIT AND A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY. 
          AND I LIKE THE FACT THAT FOR ME ANYWAY, TYING IT TO A BUILDING PERMIT A SUCCESSFUL
BUILDING PERMIT, RIGHT, IS THE KEY BECAUSE YOU COULD SPEND MONEY AND NEVER GET THERE. 
          YEAH, RIGHT. SO I SUPPORT THAT SPECIFIC LINKAGE. 
          THANK YOU. MEMBER CRAMER YOU'RE IN SUPPORT ALSO. 
          NO YEAH I SUPPORT THAT MAKES SENSE WITH THE COMMON SENSE TO ME. 
          ANYBODY DISAGREE. NO. OKAY. SO I THINK YOU HAVE YOUR CONSENSUS ON THAT. 
          I'M SORRY. CAN I GO BACK TO A BASIC QUESTION? SURE. AND THEN I'LL COME BACK TO YOU. THE BASIC QUESTION IS WE WERE AT 20,000,
BUT WE WENT TO 40,000. 
          FOR WHAT REASON? I THOUGHT IT WAS BECAUSE OF SOMEONE RAISED THEIR HOUSE AND THEIR WINDOWS. 
          OR THEY GOT INTO A PROJECT WITH WINDOWS. AND IT ENDED UP BEING MORE THAN 40,
20,000. 
          THEY COULD GO UP TO 40,000 BASED ON THAT ONE PROJECT. 
          YEAH. SO SO THE THE AMOUNT WAS INCREASED. WHAT WE HAVE FOUND IS THAT WE HAVEN'T BEEN
RECEIVING APPLICATIONS REGULARLY. 
          WE'RE STILL WORKING ON THE 24 APPLICATIONS. WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE ONE GRANT FOR THE,
THE ELEVATION OF THE HOME AND THE WINDOWS WERE A VERY EXPENSIVE LINE ITEM. SO THE THE OVERALL BUDGET STAYED THE SAME AT 200,000. 
          BUT THE AMOUNT PER APPLICATION WAS INCREASED FROM 20,000 TO 40,000 TO PROVIDE THAT
OPPORTUNITY FOR WINDOWS TO BE COVERED SPECIFICALLY, THAT WAS THE MOST EXPENSIVE LINE ITEM THAT WE WERE FINDING IN THESE REQUESTS. 
          IF THAT PARTICULAR PROJECT WENT OVER, OR IS THAT JUST NOW,
ANY PROJECT CAN BE 40,000. 
          CURRENTLY AS IT'S ADOPTED, IT'S AT 40,000. AND WE DIDN'T CHANGE THAT. 
          SO WE ARE BRINGING THE SAME AMOUNT FORWARD THAT THAT'S WHAT IT WAS. 
          SO THE AGAIN, THE OVERALL BUDGET REMAINS AT 200,000. 
          BUT ANYONE THAT APPLIES CAN APPLY FOR UP TO 40,000 IF THAT'S WHAT'S NEEDED. 
          IF THEY JUST WANT THEIR DRIVEWAY REPLACED, THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE $40,000. 
          SO THEY ONLY RECEIVE THE AMOUNT OF THE IMPROVEMENT. 
          AND AFTER WE GO THROUGH THESE SPECIFIC ITEMS,
WE'LL COME BACK AND TALK ABOUT WHAT WHAT FUNDING LEVEL. 
          AND THANK YOU. WE WANT THE PROGRAM. MEMBER PETRANOFF. 
          DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION? YEAH, JUST A CLARIFICATION. 
          IF THEY IF THEY RAISED THEIR HOUSE AND THEY WANTED TO PAY TO HAVE IT PAINTED BECAUSE OF
THE CRACKS, DOES THAT REQUIRE A BUILDING PERMIT JUST TO PAINT YOUR HOME? SO THAT WOULD THAT WOULD BE THE THE ONLY ISSUE WITH REQUIRING A BUILDING PERMIT IF WE WANT
TO IF WE CHOOSE TO COVER REPAIRS BY PAINTING. I'LL HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THAT ONE. 
          THANK YOU, MEMBER CRAMER. I DON'T WANT TO GET IN THE WEEDS ON THIS. 
          JUST THROW IT OUT THERE FOR THOSE. I'M SURE WE ALL,
OR YOU MAY OR MAY NOT KNOW, BUT PAINTING IS WOULD INCLUDE I'M ASSUMING CAULKING. 
          LIKE WHEN YOU'RE GOING TO PROOF A HOME. CAULKING IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN THE PAINT. 
          IT'S A BIG DEAL. AND. WINDOWS GOT ME THINKING ABOUT THIS. 
          I MEAN, I CAN'T IMAGINE MOVING IT AND NOT HAVING TO TEAR IT OUT. 
          I MEAN, RECAULK. I MEAN, IT'S ALL EXPENSIVE NOW. 
          IF YOU DO IT IN THE CAULKING AND PAINTING, THEN YOU DON'T NEED A PERMIT. 
          BUT IT'S SUPER IMPORTANT. LIKE, YOU HAVE A YOU'RE GOING TO GET ALL KINDS OF CRITTERS AND
BE VERY INEFFICIENT AS A HOME TRYING TO COOL IT. 
          SO THE EXTERIOR PAINT IS INCLUDED UNDER ANOTHER ELIGIBLE ITEM. 
          OKAY. SO WHETHER YOU RAISE YOUR HOME OR NOT,
YOU CAN YOU CAN PAINT YOUR HOME. 
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AND WE'VE HAD A COUPLE AND WE ALREADY HAVE THE PROVISION. 
          WE UNDERSTAND THAT THAT DOESN'T REQUIRE A PERMIT. SO THAT'S WHERE THE RUB FOR ME IS THAT
THAT DOESN'T REQUIRE A PERMIT. BUT THAT'S OKAY. IT'S A SEPARATE LINE ITEM. 
          OKAY. NOT RELATED TO ELEVATING A HOME, BUT YOU CAN APPLY TO PAINT THE EXTERIOR OF YOUR
HOME. 
          SO MOST OF THESE IMPROVEMENTS ARE PUBLIC FACING. 
          SO YOU'RE SPENDING PUBLIC DOLLARS TO SEE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS. 
          UNDERSTOOD. THANK YOU. AND BEFORE WE GO ON I HAVE ONE PUBLIC SPEAKER AND I DON'T IN CASE
THE SHE HAS SOME COMMENTS THAT ARE RELEVANT TO WHAT WE'RE ABOUT TO GO THROUGH. 
          I'M GOING TO ASK HER TO SPEAK NOW. SO I HAD A LAWSON. 
          YES. YEAH. IF YOU COULD JOIN US HERE. YEAH. 
          RIGHT HERE. OH, COULD YOU PLEASE CAN YOU MOVE TO THE PODIUM RIGHT HERE? YEAH. YEAH. GOOD AFTERNOON. THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO COME BEFORE YOU. 
          MY NAME IS TANYA LAWSON. MY PARENTS ARE IDA AND ANGUS LAWSON. 
          THEY WERE ONE OF THE FIRST FAMILIES TO PURCHASE A HOME IN THE RIVER PARK NEIGHBORHOOD IN
1963, ALONG WITH TWO OF HER SISTERS AND FIVE OF HER BROTHERS. 
          AND WE HAVE BEEN THERE EVER SINCE. MY DAD HAS GONE ON TO GLORY,
BUT MY MOM, WHO WAS HERE EARLIER, IS STILL ALIVE. AND WE HAVE USED THE RESIDENTIAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM BEFORE FOR THE
DRIVEWAY. 
          BUT AND I THINK IT'S A GREAT PROGRAM, BUT I'M HOPING SOMEWHERE ALONG THE WAY IF WE COULD
INCREASE THAT COST. 
          HONESTLY, I WILL TELL YOU, BECAUSE I CAN SPEAK FOR MY MOM BECAUSE SHE'S NOT HERE. 
          HALF OF MY HOUSE IS THE OLD WOODEN BOAT WOOD. 
          THE OTHER HALF, MY DAD WAS A CONTRACTOR AND HE BUILT AN ADDITION,
WHICH IS THE FOUNDATION IS CEMENT. 
          SO IT WOULD BE VERY DIFFICULT FOR ME AND MY MOM TO RAISE OUR HOUSE. 
          AND FOR ONE, THE EMOTIONAL TRAUMA OF BEING AWAY FROM OUR HOUSE WOULD PROBABLY KILL HER,
BUT IT WOULD BE ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE BECAUSE YOU GOT HALF A FOUNDATION OF CONCRETE AND HALF THAT ISN'T. SO THAT'S NOT A PLACE WHERE ME AND MY MOM PERSONALLY COULD GO TO IMPROVE THE
VALUE OF HER HOME ALONG WITH THE RESILIENCY BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, YEAH, WE COULD USE SOME IMPROVEMENTS IN,
I DON'T KNOW, THE MONIES, BUT I'M SURE IT'S PROBABLY IN THE 100,000, MAYBE 2 TO 3 TO LIFT IT SOME TYPE OF WAY, WHETHER IT WAS A,
I DON'T KNOW, TO TEAR IT COMPLETELY DOWN AND TRY TO REBUILD FOR 300. MAYBE SO, MAYBE NOT, BUT MAYBE WE CAN COME UP WITH SOME OTHER ALTERNATIVE
FOR THOSE HOMES THAT ARE HALF CONCRETE AND HALF THAT MIAMI BOAT WOOD THAT WAS BUILT ON THE ORIGINAL HOUSE TO SOME WAY WE CAN IMPROVE IT FROM
BEING FLOODED AGAIN. 
          I KNOW WE CAN'T USE THOSE BARRIERS AT TAMPA GENERAL HOSPITAL. 
          I'M A NURSE, SO I KNOW ABOUT THAT, THAT THEY USE FOR RAIN AND WHEN THE TORNADOES COMES
BECAUSE TAMPA GENERAL, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE EVER BEEN THERE. IT'S RIGHT ON THE BAY. AND THEY HAVE BARRIERS. 
          THAT WOULDN'T BE SUFFICIENT FOR ME AND MY MOM,
BECAUSE IT HAS TO BE SOMEBODY WHO PROFESSIONALLY KNOWS WHAT THEY'RE DOING TO PUT THEM UP. 
          BUT THE OVERALL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM FOR MANY OF THE RESIDENTS WHO ARE HOMESTEADERS. 
          I MEAN, EVEN THOUGH WE STILL HAVE INVESTORS,
BECAUSE LET'S BE HONEST AND LET'S BE REAL, THE VALUE OF RIVER PARK IS UP THERE. 
          YOU KNOW THE REASON WHY? IT'S BECAUSE OF THAT PICTURE BEHIND YOU. 
          THE GULF, THE WATER. OKAY. EVERY HOMEOWNER WHO'S RECENTLY PURCHASED A HOME. 
          I GOT 30S TO SAY THIS. THEY HAVE BUILT A BOAT DOCK,
SO WE UNDERSTAND THAT. 
          OH, IF YOU COME BACK, EVERY HOME THAT HAS BEEN PURCHASED WITHIN THE LAST THREE YEARS,
THEY HAVE A BOAT DOCK. 
          BUT MY MOM LOVES HER HOUSE BECAUSE IT'S OUR COMMUNITY,
THE PEOPLE THAT BUILT THAT. 
          SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, I DON'T KNOW. I'M GOING TO SAY SOME PRAYERS THAT MAYBE THAT
MONIES WILL GO UP TO MAYBE 3 TO 400,000 AND THEN WE CAN REBUILD AND MOVE HIGHER. 
          THANK YOU SO KINDLY FOR YOUR TIME, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN. THANK YOU. 
          APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE. OKAY. LET'S CONTINUE THROUGH OUR LIST. 
          THE SECOND ITEM IS ADDING AS AN ELIGIBLE IMPROVEMENT. 
          AIR CONDITIONING SYSTEMS REPLACEMENT AND ELEVATION. 
          AND IS THERE SUPPORT FOR THAT? ABSOLUTELY. ANYBODY DISAGREE? YEAH. I'M WITH YOU ALL. CHANGING THE NAME OF THE PROGRAM TO HYP FROM REP. ANYBODY OPPOSED TO THAT? GOOD. 
          REMOVING THE APPLICATION REQUIREMENT FOR BANK STATEMENTS. 
          I THINK THAT MAKES I DON'T THINK WE'RE FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND,
WE'RE WE'RE STILL WELL PROTECTED IN TERMS OF THE FINANCIAL INFORMATION WE'RE GETTING. 
          AND IT'S SOMEWHAT REDUNDANT, IF NOT ENTIRELY REDUNDANT. 
          EVERYBODY GOOD WITH THAT? OKAY. REVISING THE PROGRAM TO ALLOW RESIDENTS TO SECURE
ESTIMATES AND COORDINATE WITH CONTRACTORS. 
          [04:25:05]
THAT'S THAT GIVES ME A LITTLE PAUSE. AND, AND THE REASON IS THAT I JUST WE KNOW WE KNOW THAT CONTRACTORS COME IN MANY SHAPES,
SIZES AND FORMS AND AND WHEN YOU'RE AND INCLUDING SOME THAT ARE NOT LICENSED AND MY CONCERN IS JUST HOW WE PROTECT OURSELVES AND,
FRANKLY, PROTECT THE RESIDENTS WHO ARE PARTICIPATING IN THE PROGRAM FROM MAKING A BAD DECISION IN THAT REGARD. 
          SO HOW DO OTHERS FEEL? I AGREE WITH YOU FROM THE STANDPOINT THAT FIRST OF ALL,
I AGREE WITH YOU, PERIOD. SPECIFICALLY FROM THE STANDPOINT OF LIABILITY,
YOU KNOW, IT'S A PROGRAM THAT WE'RE SPONSORING HERE. 
          WE NEED TO HAVE SOME TYPE OF CONTROL MEASURES IN PLACE. 
          AND THIS IS A NO BRAINER FROM THE STANDPOINT OF A CONTROL MEASURE. BUT WE NEED TO BE WE
NEED TO BE IN CHARGE OF MAKING SURE THAT THE PEOPLE THAT ARE BEING, THAT ARE DOING THE WORK ARE NOT ONLY LICENSED AND INSURED,
BUT ALSO QUALIFIED. 
          I MEAN, THERE ARE A LOT OF CONTRACTORS OUT THERE THAT ARE LICENSED,
INSURED, AND THEY THEY PUT OUT A REAL HORRIBLE PRODUCT. 
          SO WE NEED TO WE NEED TO HAVE SOME CONTROL MEASURES IN PLACE WHEN IT COMES TO HOW HOW THE
THE CONSTRUCTION, THE QUALITY OF THE CONSTRUCTION IS GETTING DONE. VICE MAYOR. 
          YEAH. ON THIS ONE, I'M JUST I'M, I UNDERSTAND THE,
THE THE RECOMMENDED FOLLOWING AMENDMENT AND THAT YOU READ IT CORRECTLY, BUT I'M NOT SURE WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO SOLVE. WHAT ARE WHAT ARE WE TRYING TO SOLVE WITH
THIS ONE? I WOULD SAY THAT I'M SIMILAR TO MR. BARTON. I AM A MEMBER. 
          BARTON, I GUESS IS THE RIGHT TERM. YEAH. I THE FARTHER WE GET AWAY FROM EXERCISING REALLY GOOD CONTROL OVER ESTIMATES. 
          AND THEN THAT SECOND PART. COORDINATE WITH CONTRACTORS. 
          THERE'S EVERY TIME WE LOOSEN THAT UP, YOU HAVE THE LIKELIHOOD OF MISCOMMUNICATION AND AND
LOSING CONTROL OF SOME VITAL STUFF, AND I DON'T SEE IT WORKING OUT VERY WELL. 
          SO I'M I'M CONCERNED, BUT I'M OPEN TO HEARING WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO SOLVE BY DOING THAT. 
          THANK YOU. I THINK MISS JENKINS MENTIONED PART OF THE ANSWER,
MAYBE THE WHOLE ANSWER ON THAT, BUT WE'LL COME BACK TO THAT IN A SECOND. MR. KRAMER? YEAH. I THINK WHAT WE'RE SOLVING FOR IS YOU DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO TAKE THE HIT OF THE 15%
OR MORE THAT YOU HAVE TO GIVE THE GC. 
          WHEN I COULD CONTRACT LIKE I WOULD WITH MY HOUSE,
I WOULD GO TO IF THERE'S A SUB I NEED. 
          I DO A LOT OF STUFF MYSELF. I KNOW A LITTLE BIT ABOUT STUFF,
SO I WANT TO DEAL WITH THE SUB MYSELF. 
          HAVING SAID THAT, I'M AFRAID, AND THIS MAY BE THE CONSENSUS THAT IN TERMS OF OUR LIABILITY
INDEMNITY, IT'S A COST OF DOING BUSINESS LIKE WE GOT TO WE GOT TO TAKE CARE OF THE CITY BECAUSE WE'RE
INVOLVED IN THIS DEAL. 
          IF IT'S A PRIVATE HOMEOWNER, MYSELF AND I HAVE SOME GUY PUT IN A WINDOW WHO I KNOW PRETTY
GOOD, AND THEN IT GOES SOUTH, THAT'S ON ME. BUT WE CAN'T HAVE THAT HAPPEN WHEN THE CITY'S
INVOLVED. 
          I REMEMBERING CORRECTLY, MISS JENKINS, THAT WE I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS ON A ONE OFF BASIS
OR OR A GENERAL PROVISION THAT WE HAD WHERE THE WHEN THE PROGRAM WAS AT 20,000 MAX,
THAT THE CONTRACTOR FEES WERE THAT WE WERE ABLE TO MAKE LOANS, LOANS,
GRANTS UP TO 20,000 NET OF THAT 15% CONTRACTORS PIECE OF IT. THAT IS CORRECT. 
          THAT IS STILL THE POLICY IS THAT YOU REMOVE THE SOFT COSTS. 
          SO THE SOFT. SO THAT IS ONE THAT'S ONE THING TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT HERE WHERE YOU KNOW,
OBVIOUSLY WE'RE SO WE'RE REALLY EATING THAT 15%. 
          WHICH I'M I'M FINE WITH YOU KNOW AND AND TO ALLOW IT TO GET UP TO 20%,
20,000 OR NOW 40,000. 
          AND CHAIR, THAT'S ALL I WAS SAYING. I GUESS THAT'S THE COST OF DOING BUSINESS. IT'S THE
COST OF DOING BUSINESS. BUT WE'RE REALLY THAT COST IS BEING REALLY PASSED ON TO THE TO THE PROGRAM AND TO THE CRA. YES. OKAY. SO WE HAVE CONSENSUS TO,
TO, TO SO NUMBER FIVE WOULD WOULD WOULD WOULD BE REJECTED. 
          NUMBER SIX ALLOWING FOR REIMBURSEMENT IN CASE OF EMERGENCY SUCH AS AN AIR CONDITIONER
FAILURE. 
          HOW DO WE FEEL EVERYBODY GOOD WITH THAT? YEAH. 
          OKAY. AND THEN ANNUALLY SIMPLY SAYING THAT IT'S UNDERSTOOD THAT WE CAN ROLL FORWARD
UNSPENT FUNDS EACH YEAR IF WE WANT TO. 
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THAT'S KIND OF A TO ME, A NO BRAINER AS WELL. 
          OKAY. SO ON THE. ON THE PROGRAM. 
          GUIDELINES. WELL THIS PART OF THE PROGRAM. GUIDELINES,
YOU'VE GOT WHAT YOU NEED. 
          YOU HAVE CLARITY ON THAT. YEAH. SO I DO NEED A LITTLE CLARITY ALLOWING FOR REIMBURSEMENTS. 
          WE HAVE NOT ALLOWED FOR REIMBURSEMENTS IN YOUR UNDERLYING STRIKETHROUGH AND THE
REIMBURSEMENTS. 
          WE PROVIDED AN EXAMPLE OF AN AIR CONDITIONER. 
          SO ADDITIONAL CLARITY WOULD BE APPRECIATED FOR IS THERE EMERGENCY ROOF REPAIRS THERE? EMERGENCY? IF THEY DO WORK, IS THERE A TIMELINE? YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE THE KIND OF THINGS. WAS IT AN EMERGENCY TWO MONTHS AGO,
AND NOW YOU'RE ASKING US TO REIMBURSE YOU FOR THAT? SO I THINK THAT WE'LL NEED SOME GUARDRAILS ON REIMBURSEMENTS. 
          VICE MAYOR. YEAH, I WAS THINKING BEFORE SHE EVEN SAID THIS ON NUMBER SIX REIMBURSEMENT
FUNDING IN CASES OF EMERGENCY. 
          AND HERE WE HAVE AN EXAMPLE OF AN AIR CONDITIONER FAILURE. 
          I KNOW THAT THERE ARE INSTANCES WHERE VANDALISM AND THEFT OCCURS WITH COPPER AND BRASS AND
ALL KINDS OF STUFF. DOES THAT DOES THAT CONSTITUTE AN EMERGENCY AND REIMBURSEMENT FUNDING OR
DOES INSURANCE? IN OTHER WORDS, HOW DO WE PARSE THAT? GOOD QUESTION. I WOULD SUGGEST I DON'T YOU'RE NOT GOING TO MAYBE LIKE THIS,
BUT SORRY, I WAS HOPING THAT YOU COULD GO GET US BEST PRACTICES ON THAT. 
          IF THERE'S OTHER FOLKS THAT DO SOME REIMBURSEMENTS AND WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE AND WHAT THE
WHAT THOSE GUARDRAILS WOULD BE, OR BECAUSE WE COULD SIT HERE FOR HOURS AND BEAT IT AROUND AND I'D RATHER NOT. 
          SO THE PROGRAMS THAT I REVIEWED THROUGHOUT THE STATE ON CRAS DO NOT ALLOW FOR
REIMBURSEMENT. 
          IT IS PROACTIVE ONLY. SO YOU MAKE APPLICATION FOR THE IMPROVEMENT. 
          YOU NEED THE CONTRACTORS VETTED. WE GO FORWARD FROM THERE. 
          SO IT'S NOT A RETROACTIVE THING. SO IF IF THEY NEED AN AIR CONDITIONER REPLACE THEN COME
MAKE APPLICATION RIGHT AWAY AND WE'LL TRY TO GET IT DONE AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE RATHER THAN A REIMBURSEMENT FOR SOMETHING. 
          YEAH, I WAS THINKING ABOUT WHAT ABOUT BUSTED PIPE. 
          YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THERE'S SO MANY THINGS THAT COULD CREATE THIS SITUATION. 
          THE OTHER THING IS, HOW MANY APPLICANTS HAVE WE HAD IN THE LAST SIX MONTHS? ZERO, RIGHT. YEAH. SO I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO GO FISHING FOR SOMETHING. 
          YEAH. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? YEAH. LIKE, MAYBE JUST LEAVE IT. 
          LEAVE IT AS IT IS WHEN THESE SITUATIONS COME UP,
WHICH WILL BE RARE, WE CAN AND THEN WE, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN DO WHAT YOU NEED TO DO TO TRY TO IF IT'S A GENUINE EMERGENCY IN WHICH YOU FEEL IS
AN ELIGIBLE EXPENSE, YOU CAN EXPEDITE IT BACK TO US AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. 
          OKAY. ARE WE GOOD WITH THAT? YEAH. SO. SO SIX. 
          SIX WILL ALSO NOT BE PART OF IT. AND THEN I THINK THE OTHER I THINK WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR, MISS JENKINS,
IS A CONSENSUS ON THE PROGRAM FUNDING. 
          DO WE WANT TO AGREE THAT WE'RE GOING TO SET IT,
CONTINUE TO WISH TO SET IT AT $200,000 FOR THIS 2526 FISCAL YEAR WITH 40,000 MAXIMUM. SO YOUR BUDGET CURRENTLY ALLOCATES 200,000. 
          SO THE CHANGE WOULD BE TO THE MAXIMUM PER APPLICATION OF 40,000. 
          ANY CHANGE THERE. THE CURRENT IS WHAT THE CURRENT APPROPRIATION IN YOUR BUDGET IS 200,000. 
          SO YOU HAVE ALREADY IN YOUR BUDGET. YOU HAVE. WE'VE ALREADY DONE THAT. YEAH. YEAH. BUT IF
THERE'S ANY CHANGES THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO MAKE TO THE MAXIMUM AWARD PER APPLICATION CURRENTLY IS 40,000. SO THERE'S NO. SO I MISUNDERSTOOD. 
          I THOUGHT YOU HAD INDICATED EARLIER THAT WE NEEDED TO VALIDATE THAT OR ACT ON IT IN SOME
WAY. 
          NO, NO, I JUST I MENTIONED THAT IT'S APPROPRIATED BUT IT HAS NOT BEEN ENCUMBERED. 
          SO IF YOU CHOSE TO REDIRECT IT IN YOUR PRIORITIES,
YOU WOULD STILL HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO THAT. 
          WELL, I PERSONALLY THINK WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO HAVE THIS PROGRAM AVAILABLE TO THE
RESIDENTS. 
          NOW, YOU KNOW THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION, I KNOW AT THE CRAB ABOUT EXPANDING THE SIZE OF
IT. 
          BUT AGAIN, WE WE HAVE NOT HAD OVERWHELMING INTEREST IN THIS PROGRAM,
INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH. 
          SO I THINK KEEPING PERSONALLY MY VIEW IS KEEPING IT AT 240,000. 
          [04:35:05]
MAXIMUM IS FOR THIS YEAR IS A WAY TO GO, AND WE'LL SEE WHAT KIND OF DEMAND THERE IS FOR IT
AND AND AND ACT ACCORDINGLY BASED ON THAT. VICE MAYOR. YEAH. 
          THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. SO ON ON THE 200,000 CAP AND THE 40,000,
I COMPLETELY AGREE. 
          I SUPPORT THAT. WHY? WHAT IS THE NEED TO ARBITRARILY RAISE IT TO X OVER 200,000? BUT I WANTED TO GO BACK. IS THAT WHEN WE'RE DISCUSSING THAT,
HAVE WE ALREADY MOVED THROUGH NUMBER SEVEN OR IS THAT NUMBER SEVEN WITHIN THOSE RECOMMENDED AMENDMENTS? WELL, NUMBER SEVEN IS THAT THE ROLLOVER? I THINK WE JUST SAID, YES, WE HAVE THE DISCRETION TO ROLLOVER FUNDS EACH YEAR IF WE WISH
TO DO SO. 
          AND I MISSED IT. MAYBE MY MIND WAS ON THE SIX AND WE WENT BACK TO THAT,
BUT ON NUMBER SEVEN. 
          SO SEPARATELY, THE 200,000. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT COMMENT. 
          AND SO NOW NOW I'M TALKING SPECIFICALLY ABOUT NUMBER SEVEN. 
          SO CRA FUNDS WE KNOW THAT THEY EXPIRE AFTER A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME. 
          RIGHT. IS THAT RIGHT? YES. YES. OKAY. SO DO WE HAVE OTHER PARTS OF WHAT WE DO IN CRA THAT
ROLL FORWARD IF THEY'RE UNSPENT? YES. FOR INSTANCE, DURING YOUR BUDGET DISCUSSION,
YOU ROLLED FORWARD FUNDING FOR THREE PARKS PROJECTS THAT THAT WERE VERY CLOSE TO BRINGING A CONTRACT. YOU HAVE ONE ON YOUR NEXT AGENDA ITEM. 
          SO YOU ROLLED THAT FUNDING FORWARD FOR THAT PROJECT BECAUSE IT WASN'T SPENT IN 25. 
          SO YOU ALWAYS HAVE THE DISCRETION TO ROLL FORWARD FUNDING. 
          SO IF THIS 200,000 WASN'T SPENT IN 2026, AND YOU WANTED TO ROLL IT FORWARD AND ADD ANOTHER
200,000. 
          YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO THAT NEXT YEAR IN YOUR BUDGET DISCUSSIONS AND THEN EVEN
SUBSEQUENT ROLL FORWARDS. 
          ARE WE ABLE TO APPROPRIATELY GO DO A LOOK BACK AND UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHAT'S GOING ON WITH
THESE ROLL FORWARD AMOUNTS? EACH BUDGET YEAR SO THAT WE'RE NOT YOU KNOW,
CAUSING A PROBLEM FOR OURSELVES. 
          YES, YES. SO SO YOUR BUDGET OUTLINES THE APPROPRIATION FOR EACH PROJECT ANY GIVEN YEAR. 
          ALL RIGHT, ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. OKAY. YEAH. JUST A POINT OF CLARIFICATION. 
          WHEN YOU ROLL IT FORWARD, YOU'RE ROLLING THE BUDGET INTO THE SUBSEQUENT YEAR. 
          THE PLAN ADOPTION ALLOWS FOR CAPACITY UP TO THAT FOR THAT RESPECTIVE YEAR,
BUT THE BUDGET ACTUALLY CARRIES IN. 
          SO IF I LOOKED AT IN IN IN THE YOUR ERP SYSTEM,
YOUR ACCOUNTING SYSTEM, YOU WOULD SEE THE ALLOCATION OF 200,000. THERE WOULD BE NO ENCUMBRANCE IN THAT YEAR. 
          THE NEXT YEAR IT WOULD INCREASE TO 400. BECAUSE UNLESS YOU ENCUMBER THE FUNDS,
WHICH IS THE SECURING OF A PURCHASE ORDER, YOU'RE ROLLING A BUDGET FORWARD THAT CORRESPONDS WITH YOUR PROGRAM,
AND YOU EVENTUALLY EXPEND THE MONEY WHEN YOU EXPEND IT. 
          SO I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT CLARIFICATION WAS WAS GIVEN TO YOU,
OKAY. 
          BECAUSE THE ONLY WAY TO IT TO TRULY COMMIT AN AMOUNT IS TO HAVE AN ENCUMBRANCE,
TYING UP A PURCHASE ORDER FOR A SPECIFIC PURPOSE. SO I JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT CLARITY OUT. 
          OKAY. AND I ASSUME, MISS JENKINS, THAT YOU HAVE A PLAN FOR BASED ON THIS DISCUSSION AFTER
THIS DISCUSSION TODAY FOR ADVERTISING AND MARKETING THE PROGRAM WITHIN RIVER PARK AS YOU HAVE IN PAST YEARS. 
          YES. TO REMIND EVERYONE THAT IT'S AVAILABLE AND HOPEFULLY WE GET SOME TAKERS. 
          GOOD. OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE ON NINE. I GUESS WE NEED TO APPROVE THE RESOLUTION. 
          AND ANYBODY WANT TO MAKE A MOTION ON THAT. MR. CHAIRMAN, IF IT'S APPROPRIATE I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM NINE B RESOLUTION
OF THE COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY ADOPTING THE CRA FISCAL YEAR RESIDENTIAL IMPROVEMENT
PROGRAM. 
          WITH WITH AN EXCEPTION IN AND HERE'S WHERE MY QUESTION IS. 
          THE ITEMS THAT WE DECLINED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THOSE ARE NOTED AND WE DON'T NEED TO DELINEATE THOSE IN THE MOTION. IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT. FROM MY NOTES, YOU HAVE AGREED WITH THE DOCUMENT THAT AS PRESENTED. 
          [04:40:04]
OKAY. OH. IT IS. OKAY. SO, MR. CHAIR, AGAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE 9BA RESOLUTION OF THE
COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY, THE CRA OF THE CITY OF NAPLES, ADOPTING THE CRA FISCAL YEAR 20 2526 RESIDENTIAL
IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM TO AID WITH RESIDENTIAL IMPROVEMENTS FOR HOMESTEADED OR OWNER OCCUPIED PROPERTIES WITHIN RIVER PARK EAST NEIGHBORHOOD AND IN THE
TOTAL AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED 200,000. 
          VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. HAVE A MOTION BY VICE MAYOR HUTCHISON AND A SECOND BY VICE CHAIR. DISCUSSION. I JUST YES. I WOULD HAVE LIKED TO HAVE HAD AN EVALUATION OF HOW THIS PROGRAM IS ACTUALLY WORKING. AND IF IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE COULD HAVE MAYBE
POTENTIALLY WORKED WITH THE RAYS, THE HOME PROGRAM, WITH THE STATE AND KIND OF LOOK AT WHETHER THIS IS A BENEFICIAL
PROGRAM FOR ALL. AND IF WE'RE NOT TAKING IT, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT ALL ARE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF IT,
THEN MAYBE WE LOOK AT SOMETHING ELSE. 
          AND AGAIN, I JUST FOR THE RECORD, YOU KNOW, WE DECIDED TO DO THIS PROGRAM BECAUSE THE
RIVER PARK COMMUNITY THOUGHT THAT WE HAD NOT DONE ANYTHING FOR THEM. AND I DON'T LIKE JUST DOING A TOKEN PROGRAM. 
          SO I WANT TO SEE THE BENEFITS OF THIS PROGRAM. 
          AND IS IT REALLY HELPING THE MAJORITY IN THE IN,
IN A WAY THAT BENEFITS EVERYBODY? SO I THINK WE ARE NOW HELPING IN REAL TIME WITH THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN THAT COMMUNITY. 
          SO THAT'S JUST MY OPINION. AND I'D LIKE TO LOOK AT IT A TOTALITY,
WHETHER OF PROGRAMS THAT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL. 
          SO GOOD POINT. I AGREE WITH YOU. AND I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD REMEMBER AND,
AND DO IN THE FUTURE. 
          CERTAINLY THE NEXT TIME THIS COMES UP. MY ONLY COMMENT IS IS,
IS THAT IN IN THE RESOLUTION? I'M LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW,
SECTION ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, SIX. 
          THERE'S NO SECTION FIVE. THAT SHOULD THERE BE LANGUAGE SOMEWHERE IN THERE? MISS JENKINS OR MR. MCCONNELL THAT EXPLICITLY TIES THE ACTION TO THE TO THE SPECIFICS CONTAINED WITHIN THE HOME IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM GUIDELINES. 
          IT TALKS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, AN ANNUAL AFFIDAVIT AND SO ON. 
          BUT WHEN I READ THE RESOLUTION, IT STRUCK ME THAT YOU KNOW,
WHAT WE'RE REALLY DOING HERE IS APPROVING A PROGRAM AT $200,000. THAT AND THE PROGRAM IS REALLY DESCRIBED IN THESE. 
          I GUESS YOU CALL THEM PROGRAM GUIDELINES. AND IT'S NOT REALLY STATED IN THE RESOLUTION. 
          SHOULD IT BE. SEE WHAT I'M SAYING? YEAH. IT'S KIND OF A QUESTION. 
          OKAY. WHAT WHAT IS IT THAT WE'RE APPROVING AND IS DOES SECTION FOUR YOUR INTENT WHERE WE
SAY THAT WERE AUTHORIZED TO IMPROVE INDIVIDUAL APPLICATIONS MEETING PROGRAM ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS,
WHICH WOULD INCLUDE INCOME QUALIFICATIONS, ITEMS APPROVED. WOULD THAT MEET YOUR INTENT? SECTION FOUR,
PAGE TWO. THE SECOND PAGE SECTION FOUR. IS THERE SOMETHING WE CAN AUTHORIZE TO APPROVE? INDIVIDUAL. YOU'RE AUTHORIZED TO APPROVE THE INDIVIDUAL APPLICATIONS THAT MEET THE PROGRAM
ELIGIBILITY ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS SET FORTH. AND IS THIS DOCUMENT IN EFFECT, THE PROGRAM ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS? YES. IN ITS ENTIRETY, YES. IT INCLUDES BOTH. WHAT IS NECESSARY TO QUALIFY FOR THE
APPLICATION AND ALSO WHAT IMPROVEMENTS CAN BE REQUESTED. OKAY,
I SEE YOUR POINT. 
          YEAH, I GUESS THAT'S FINE. YEAH. AND, MR. CHAIR,
I ALSO NEED TO MAKE A CLARIFICATION. 
          I SAID THAT YOUR MOTION HAD INCLUDED WHAT WAS RED LINE. 
          BUT LET ME CLARIFY THAT WE DID MAKE A CHANGE. 
          [04:45:02]
THE BOARD MADE A CHANGE TO REMOVE THE RESIDENTS SECURING ESTIMATES FROM LICENSED AND
INSURED CONTRACTORS AND AND KEEPING THE PROGRAM AS IT IS IS WHAT I HEARD THE CONSENSUS TO BE. 
          SO I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT. SO THAT IS ONE ONE DIFFERENCE THAT I WOULD I WOULD NEED
TO UNDERLINE THAT IN THE PROGRAM. 
          THAT WOULD BE A CONDITION OF YES. SO THAT IS A CONDITION OF THE MOTION TO APPROVE THIS
RESOLUTION. 
          YES. VICE CHAIR YOUR SECOND STANCE. YEAH, YEAH. 
          YOU WERE GOING TO SAY SOMETHING, MR. MCCONNELL? NO,
I THINK I WAS, BUT I THINK MISS JENKINS COVERED IT. 
          I WAS JUST GOING TO SUGGEST IF SINCE IT'S NOT IN THE TITLE,
IF THE CRA WANTED TO JUST BUY SEPARATE MOTION TO APPROVE THE CHANGES TO THE ACTUAL RESIDENTIAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM DOCUMENT ITSELF,
THEY COULD. 
          BUT BUT I THINK WITH SECTION FOUR, IT KIND OF ENCOMPASSES THE FACT THAT THE UPDATES HAVE
BEEN APPROVED AS WELL. SO YOU THINK WE'RE GOOD? OKAY. 
          ALL RIGHT. SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THE FLOOR. 
          ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? MADAM CLERK, WOULD YOU CALL THE ROLL? MEMBER. BARTON. YES. MAYOR HEITMAN. NO. VICE CHAIR. 
          I'M SORRY. VICE MAYOR HUTCHISON. YES. MEMBER. 
          CRAMER. YES. VICE CHAIR. PENMAN. YES. MEMBER. 
          YES. YES. PASSES 6 TO 1. THANK YOU. AND WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM NINE C, 
          [9.C) A Resolution Approving a Contractor’s Services Agreement Between the Community Redevelopment Agency (CRA) of the City Of Naples, Florida, and Deja Blue Custom Pools and Spas LLC, to Replace the River Park Aquatic Center Pool Plaster and Pool Tiles in the Amount of $76,918; Authorizing the Community Redevelopment Agency Executive Director to Execute the Contractor’s Services Agreement; Providing for Scrivener’s Errors and Providing an Effective Date. ]
WHICH IS ALSO A A RESOLUTION. MR. MCCONNELL? YES. 
          THANK YOU. CHAIR. RESOLUTION APPROVING A CONTRACTOR SERVICES AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE
COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY OF THE CITY OF NAPLES, FLORIDA, AND DEJA BLUE CUSTOM POOLS AND SPAS,
LLC TO REPLACE THE RIVER PARK AQUATIC CENTER POOL, PLASTER AND POOL TILES IN THE AMOUNT OF $76,918. 
          AUTHORIZING THE COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR TO EXECUTE THE
CONTRACTOR SERVICES AGREEMENT, PROVIDING FOR SCRIVENER'S ERRORS AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THANK YOU, MR. JENKINS. YES, MR. CHAIR. 
          THIS IS A CONTRACT TO APPROVE THE REPAIRS TO THE RIVER PARK AQUATIC CENTER. 
          SPECIFICALLY THE POOL PLASTER AND POOL TILES. 
          THIS IS AN ITEM THAT YOU APPROVED IN YOUR CIP LAST YEAR IN THE AMOUNT OF $100,000. 
          WE WERE ABLE TO GET THE CONTRACT DONE AND TO YOU THIS YEAR. 
          SO WE DID CARRY THAT FORWARD TO YOUR CIP THIS YEAR IN THE AMOUNT OF $100,000. 
          SO IT CAME IN A BIT UNDER BUDGET, WHICH WE'RE ALWAYS HAPPY TO SEE THAT. 
          SO WITH THAT, WE WOULD JUST ASK FOR THE APPROVAL OF THE RESOLUTION TO BE ABLE TO MAKE
THESE REPAIRS. 
          MAYOR HARTMAN, I'M IN SUPPORT OF THIS. I JUST FIND IT INTERESTING THAT THERE'S A POOL
COMPANY THAT'S COMING FROM ORLANDO, AND I. CAN YOU JUST TELL ME HOW THE DUE DILIGENCE OF THE COMMITTEE FOR REFERRALS FOR. 
          SO THE THE, THE INVITATION TO BID WENT OUT AND LET ME GET THIS UP REAL QUICK. 
          IN YOUR LINE ITEM OR IN YOUR BUDGET ITEM, IT DOES HAVE THE BID DOCUMENT BACK. 
          AND SO IT'LL SHOW YOU HOW MANY BIDDERS WE HAD ON THE PROJECT AND WHAT THAT COST WAS. 
          SO LET ME JUST. OH, I DIDN'T SEE THE BID SHEET. 
          WE USED TO SEE THE BID SHEET. IT SHOULD BE IN THERE. 
          IS IT? OH, THIS IS THIS ONE. IS IT? YES. OH. AND THIS IS HOW IT WAS RANKED. 
          YES. OKAY. I THINK WE HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION CAN BE PROVIDED. 
          YES. SO WE JASON COLLINS A RECREATION SUPERINTENDENT COMMUNITY SERVICES WE HAD,
I BELIEVE, THREE BIDS. THEY WERE THEY WERE VERY DIFFERENT BIDS. 
          BUT WE DID DO OUR DUE DILIGENCE ON THOSE BIDS ON THE LOW BIDDER AS WELL. 
          AND CHECKED REFERENCES. GOOD REFERENCES ON THEM. 
          THE WE ACTUALLY DID INVITE LOCAL PLASTERING AND POOL COMPANIES TO BID ON THIS PROJECT. 
          UNFORTUNATELY, WE DID NOT GET ANY LOCAL COMPANIES THAT BESIDES ONE,
I BELIEVE, AND THEY WERE ABOUT 2 OR 3 TIMES THE BUDGETED ALLOTMENT FOR THE PROJECT. 
          SO YEAH, WE WE TRIED OUR BEST TO TRY TO GET LOCAL COMPANIES,
BUT YOU KNOW, WE CAN ONLY DO WHAT WE CAN DO. 
          WHO WHO BUILT THE ORIGINAL I MEAN, THE RENOVATED POOL. 
          I CAN'T RECALL. BELIEVE IT OR NOT, WHO BUILT THE ORIGINAL? 
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I'M. I'M NOT CERTAIN. I WAS NOT HERE. I WAS HERE,
BUT I CAN'T REMEMBER WHO DID IT. 
          BORELLI POOLS, I BELIEVE. AND CS BORELLI AND CS POOLS. 
          THANK YOU. DID WE HAVE AN ESTIMATED COST OF ON THIS? WE. OUR ORIGINAL ESTIMATE WAS OVER. WAS 100,000. 
          100,000. YES, SIR. VICE MAYOR? YEAH. I JUST WANT TO SAY AND THIS IS AVAILABLE TO THE
PUBLIC, BUT THIS IS WHY YOU GET BIDS AND FOLLOW UP ON THEM TO MAKE SURE WHAT YOU'RE SEEING IS
ACTUALLY THE DOABLE. 
          BUT FOR EVERY LINE ITEM ON THIS WINNING BIDDER,
THE NEXT CLOSEST WAS OVER DOUBLE. 
          EVERY LINE ITEM EXCEPT ONE. AND AND THEN IN SOME CASES,
JUST EXTRAORDINARILY EVEN HIGHER. 
          IT'S ABSOLUTELY AMAZING. I'M STUNNED. BUT THANK YOU WERE AS WELL. 
          THANK YOU. THAT'S WHY WE DID OUR DUE DILIGENCE ON IT,
HONESTLY. THE A LOT OF THE COMPANIES, I BELIEVE THAT THEY THEY TEND TO THEY'LL THEY'LL BID ON THINGS BECAUSE THEY'RE KIND OF
REQUIRED TO. 
          BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THEY WANT THE JOB. IF THEY GOT THE JOB AT THAT HIGH PRICE,
THEY'RE LIKE, OH, GREAT. YOU KNOW, WE'RE GETTING A LOT OF MONEY ON IT. YEAH. 
          MEMBER CRAMER THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY ON THE CONSTRUCTION END. WHEN YOU
HAVE PLENTY OF WORK YOU JUST THROW IT OUT THERE AS HIGH AS YOU CAN. 
          AND IF YOU GET THAT JOB, THAT'S WHY FOLKS SAY,
HEY, THEY THINK IT'S THE CITY THAT'S HOLDING THEM UP ON GETTING THE JOB FINISHED, WHEN IN REALITY THEIR CONTRACTOR GOT THE BIGGER,
BETTER BUCK OVER HERE AND IS GOING TO DO AS LITTLE AS THEY CAN OVER HERE WHILE THEY FINISH THIS JOB. THEY'RE MAKING 800% ON. YEAH, IT'S JUST A REALITY. 
          IT'S WHAT THE MARKET WILL BEAR, RIGHT? IT'S A FREE MARKET ECONOMY. IT JUST TELLS YOU
THEY'RE COMING FROM ORLANDO. THERE MUST NOT BE AS MUCH POOL WORK GOING ON IN ORLANDO RIGHT NOW. IT'S NOT OKAY. WOULD SOMEONE LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION ON NINE C. 
          WELL, I MOVE APPROVAL IF. OKAY, MR. CHAIRMAN,
I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE NINE C. 
          THIS IS A RESOLUTION APPROVING A CONTRACTOR SERVICES AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE COMMUNITY
REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY, CRA, THE CITY OF NAPLES AND DEJA BLUE CUSTOM POOLS AND SPAS TO REPLACE THE RIVER PARK
AQUATIC CENTER. 
          POOL PLASTER AND POOL TOWELS. SECOND. VERY GOOD. 
          THANK YOU. DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. I HAVE A MOTION FROM THE VICE MAYOR AND A SECOND
FROM MEMBER CRAMER. 
          MADAM CLERK, WOULD YOU PULL THE COUNCIL MEMBER? MARTIN. YES. MAYOR. HARTMAN. YES. VICE MAYOR HUTCHINSON. 
          YES. MEMBER. CRAMER. YES. VICE CHAIR. PENNYMAN. 
          YES. MEMBER. PETRANOFF. YES. CHAIR. CHRISTMAS. 
          YES. AND I SHOULD SAY PULL THE BOARD, NOT COUNCIL. 
          I PROBABLY SAID THAT SEVERAL TIMES. ALL RIGHT,
LET'S MOVE ON TO NINE. 
          [9.D) Acceptance of the CRA Performance Measures Annual Report 2025.]
D AND, MISS JENKINS, TAKE US THROUGH THIS. THANK YOU,
MR. CHAIR. THIS ITEM IS IN DISCUSSION OF YOUR STATUTORILY REQUIRED GOALS,
OBJECTIVES, AND PERFORMANCE MEASURES. 
          YOU MAY RECALL THAT IN JANUARY, WE BROUGHT THIS NEW REQUIREMENT FORWARD FOR YOUR ATTENTION
AND YOU ADOPTED THE GOALS, OBJECTIVES AND PERFORMANCE STANDARDS AS INDICATED IN YOUR PACKET. 
          STAFF WENT THROUGH THAT AND FOUND THAT YOU DID MEET ALL YOUR GOALS THAT YOU SET FORTH TO
DO. 
          SO WE'RE BRINGING THAT FORWARD FOR YOUR ACCEPTANCE. 
          IT WAS A REQUIREMENT TO POST THIS ON OUR WEBSITE BY DECEMBER 1ST. 
          SO THAT POSTING HAS BEEN MADE. AND THEN SECONDLY,
WE WOULD JUST ASK FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION FOR NEXT YEAR'S GOALS, OBJECTIVES AND PERFORMANCE MEASURES. IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO CHANGE ON
THIS DOCUMENT FOR THE NEXT YEAR'S CONSIDERATION, OR IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO JUST REMAIN THE SAME. 
          OKAY. MEMBER PETRANOFF. YES. ON GOAL NUMBER 3.2. 
          THE. WAIT A SECOND. WAS 3.2. 
          I'LL JUST MAKE SURE. OH, YES. ARE IN COMPLIANCE. 
          WAIT, LET ME GO BACK THROUGH MY NOTES. HOLD ON A MINUTE. 
          ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY ANYTHING? AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK TO. 
          OH, OKAY. I'VE GOT IT, I'VE GOT IT. YEAH, IT'S THE FIRST LINE. 
          A MINIMUM OF NINE CRA PROJECTS AS IDENTIFIED IN THE IN IN FISCAL YEAR 2025,
CIP WILL BE INITIATED THROUGH REQUIRED. 
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YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO BE HAVING A MEETING EARLY IN THE FIRST QUARTER. 
          AND IT MAY NOT BE NINE PROJECTS. IT MAY BE SOMETHING LESS. 
          IT MAY BE ONE. SO ARE WE STUCK WITH THIS BECAUSE THE STANDARD IS NINE A MINIMUM OF NINE. 
          YEAH. AND PERHAPS WE COULD AMEND THAT TO REMOVE THE NUMBER AND JUST OUTLINE WHAT,
WHAT YOUR PRIORITIES ARE IN YOUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM THAT WE'RE ENSURING THAT THOSE ARE INITIATED THROUGH THE PROCESS. 
          SO WE'RE NOT IDENTIFYING THE SPECIFIC NUMBER IF THAT IF THAT WORKS. 
          THANK YOU. I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. FIRST OF ALL WHAT'S OUR DEADLINE REQUIREMENT ON
THIS FOR THE. WELL LET ME LET ME GO BACK A STEP IN TERMS OF THE PRIOR FISCAL YEAR,
FISCAL YEAR 25. 
          YOU'RE SAYING THAT WE COMPLIED WITH EVERYTHING WE SAID WE WERE GOING TO DO. 
          WE KNOW THAT. YES. OKAY. SO THIS IS FOR THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR,
FISCAL YEAR 26, WHICH WERE ALREADY BEGUN. 
          CORRECT? CORRECT. AND WHEN DO WE NEED TO GET THIS IN TO THIS,
TO ADOPT THIS AND SHARE IT WITH THE STATE. 
          SO YOU COULD ADOPT IT IF YOU SO CHOOSE AT YOUR AT YOUR NEXT MEETING. 
          AT THE SPECIAL MEETING, WE NEED TO ADOPT IT,
YOU KNOW, WITHIN THE FIRST QUARTER OF THE FIRST YEAR. 
          AND THE REQUIREMENT IS TO POST IT BY DECEMBER 1ST AND TO MEET THOSE GOALS. 
          SO YOU WANT TO GIVE YOURSELF ENOUGH TIME TO OUTLINE YOUR GOALS AND MEET YOUR GOALS. 
          BUT THE REQUIREMENT REALLY IS TO TO POST YOUR MEASURES BY DECEMBER 1ST. 
          AND AND WHETHER YOU MET THEM OR NOT, POST FOR THE YEAR JUST ENDED. 
          YEAH. AND IT APPLIES TO NEXT YEAR AS WELL. YEAH. 
          BECAUSE YOU KNOW, THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS IN HERE LIKE THAT, THAT OH, YOU KNOW, THE CRA SHALL HOLD MEETINGS IN THE FIRST MONTH OF EACH QUARTER
WITH ADDITIONAL MEETINGS IS DETERMINED. 
          WE DON'T WE DON'T ALWAYS DO THAT. WE DON'T ALWAYS MEET IN THE FIRST MONTH OF EACH QUARTER. 
          IN FACT, WE HAVEN'T, WE HAVEN'T IN THE FIRST QUARTER OF THIS CURRENT FISCAL YEAR. 
          SO I JUST POINT THAT OUT. ANOTHER THING THAT CAUGHT MY EYE IS AFFORDABLE WORKFORCE HOUSING. I'M ON. I'M SORRY,
THREE ONE NOW. 
          I MEAN, WE HAVE REALLY CONSISTENTLY OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS PASSED ON AFFORDABLE
HOUSING OPPORTUNITY THAT'S COME BEFORE US FOR ONE REASON OR ANOTHER,
FOR BETTER OR WORSE. 
          I MEAN, IT'S JUST A FACT. AND AND YOU KNOW I'M NOT SURE IT REALLY CAN. 
          IT'S BEEN A GOAL YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE TOP GOALS OF THE CRA FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS,
BUT, I WANTED TO RAISE THIS AS TO WHETHER AND ALSO AGAIN GIVEN WHERE WE ARE. DO WE REALLY THINK WE CAN MEET MEET THE GOALS. THE GOAL IS OUTLINED HERE. DON'T WANT TO SET UP SOMETHING THAT WE THINK WE'RE GOING
TO FAIL TO DO. 
          YEAH. I'LL, I AM JUST KIND OF GLANCING AT THIS NOW,
BUT, I MEAN, THIS PARTICULAR ITEM BUT IT SAYS TO EXPLORE OPPORTUNITIES. 
          I MEAN, TECHNICALLY, WE DID THAT TODAY WITH WITH HABITAT FOR HUMANITY. 
          I MEAN, WE'VE CHECKED THAT BOX LITERALLY TODAY. 
          JUST BECAUSE WE DIDN'T DO IT DOESN'T MEAN WE DIDN'T EXPLORE IT. 
          AND I THINK THAT I THINK THAT WE THAT CAN STAY AS IS AS LONG AS IT'S NOT COMMITTING US TO
DOING SOMETHING. 
          GOOD POINT. WE LIVE IN A VERY UNIQUE AREA THAT LAND VALUES HERE ARE ASTRONOMICAL. 
          MOST PEOPLE DON'T HAVE TO DEAL WITH WITH THAT HURDLE LIKE WE DO. 
          I THINK THAT WE SHOULD CONTINUE TO EXPLORE IT. 
          AND IDEALLY, HOPEFULLY, MAYBE WE GET SOMEONE SOMETHING THAT WE CAN SAY YES ON. 
          MY GUESS IS WE PROBABLY NEED A COMMUNITY PARTNER THAT'S GOT REALLY DEEP POCKETS,
THAT IS REALLY EXCITED ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING BEFORE WE'RE GOING TO SAY YES TO SOMETHING. BUT I THINK WE CAN WE CAN CONTINUE TO EXPLORE IT AND DISCUSS IT. 
          BUT TO YOU AND TO YOUR POINT, IT SAYS A MINIMUM OF TWO CRA MEETING AGENDAS,
INCLUDING DISCUSSION. 
          WE'VE ALREADY HAD ONE. AND DIDN'T. WE HAVE MR. AT LEAST ONCE TO TALK ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING? WAS THAT IN OCTOBER? I DIDN'T HEAR WHICH MR. CAME. 
          OH YEAH. YOU SPENT MOST OF THE YEAR ON STILLWATER COVE THE FIRST PART OF THE YEAR? YEAH, THAT WAS LAST YEAR. YEAH. SO WAS IT THIS YEAR? YEAH. SO I HAVE NO DOUBT THAT WE'LL STILL CONTINUE TO TO ACCOMPLISH THAT GOAL THROUGH 2026
AS WELL. 
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BUT I ALSO HAVE NO DOUBT THAT WE PROBABLY WON'T DO ANYTHING WITH IT,
BUT I THINK WE SHOULD STILL EXPLORE IT AND CONTINUE TO LOOK. 
          YEAH, YOU CONVINCE ME. OKAY. ON THIS POINT. VICE MAYOR OR SOMETHING ELSE? OKAY. BECAUSE I'LL JUST FINISH MY. THE OTHER ONE THAT CAUGHT MY EYE WAS ALTERNATIVE
TRANSPORTATION METHODS. 
          3.4 I REALLY. 3.4 UNLIKE AFFORDABLE HOUSING,
I'M REALLY NOT SURE THAT'S ON OUR RADAR SCREEN RIGHT NOW, AND I'M NOT SURE THAT'S SOMETHING WE WOULD LIKELY MEET. 
          SO LAST YEAR THE ALTERNATIVE TRANSPORTATION WAS A DISCUSSION POINT WITH YOUR FIRST,
10TH, AND 12TH STREET PROJECTS THAT YOU'LL RECALL. WE TALKED AT LENGTH WITH BIKE LANES AND BIKE
LANES. 
          SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT HOW YOU'RE GOING TO ACCOMMODATE THOSE USERS IN THESE LARGER
INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS. 
          SO THAT'S GENERALLY HOW HOW YOU'RE MEETING THAT. 
          YEAH. I JUST WE DISCUSSED IT. I'M SORRY. NO,
YOU GO AHEAD. 
          WE DISCUSSED IT. AND WHAT DID WE DECIDE? YOU DECIDED ON SPECIFIC TO FIRST HAVE A VERSION
FOR LISTENERS WHO DONATE. 
          THAT'S THE MEMBER VERSION. AND THIS IS THE FREE VERSION FOR THE GENERAL PUBLIC. 
          THIS FREE VERSION IS WHERE YOU CAN LISTEN FOR 30 MINUTES OR MORE A DAY. 
          YOU'VE REACHED TODAY'S LIMIT. JAZZGROOVE LISTENERS WHO DONATE GET THE MEMBER VERSION,
INCLUDING UNLIMITED LISTENING, PURE MUSIC WITH NO TALK, HIGH RES AUDIO, FILE FIDELITY,
SONG SKIPS, AND MORE. 
          IF YOU'RE A CONTRIBUTING MEMBER, PLEASE LISTEN TO THE MEMBER VERSION. 
          IT'S EASY. IF YOU'RE LISTENING FROM OUR WEBSITE OR MOBILE APP,
JUST CLICK SIGN IN AND SIGN IN TO YOUR MEMBER ACCOUNT. 
          OR IF YOU'RE USING ANOTHER DEVICE TO LISTEN,
SET IT UP ONCE AND THEN YOU'LL ALWAYS HAVE UNLIMITED MUSIC WITHOUT TALK. 
          FIND THE EASY STEPS TO GET SET UP, VISIT JAZZGROOVE. 
          ORG AND THEN JUST CLICK THE DEVICES BUTTON. AGAIN GO TO JAZZGROOVE ORG AND CLICK THE
DEVICES BUTTON. 
          YOU CAN ALSO CALL US AND WE'LL HELP YOU GET SET UP. 
          RACKS FAIRLY FREQUENTLY. SO HE KIND OF COVERED OUR OKAY. 
          VICE MAYOR YEAH. DIFFERENT ITEM 3.3. AND THIS IS STAFFING. 
          AND WE'RE PROBABLY COVERED HERE WITH THE STATEMENT FULLY OR PARTIALLY FUNDED. 
          AND THE STANDARD IS TEN STAFF MEMBERS. BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE THE LAYOUT HERE,
THERE'S THREE POLICE OFFICERS, THREE TECHNICIANS, AN ADMINISTRATIVE COORDINATOR,
A CRA ADMINISTRATOR AND EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR. 
          THAT'S NINE. SO IF WE'RE GOING TO ACTUALLY LIST ALL TEN TO SEE IF WE'RE MEETING THE
STANDARD. 
          LET'S ADD THAT ONE THAT'S EITHER PARTIALLY OR FULLY FUNDED SOMEWHERE. 
          AND IF THEY'RE NOT, LET'S REDUCE IT TO NINE. YEAH. 
          THANKS. GOOD CATCH. SO I'M SORRY I JUST HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION ABOUT THIS BECAUSE I REALLY
WASN'T PREPARED TO TALK ABOUT THIS, OF WHETHER THIS IS OUR. 
          FUTURE GUIDELINES. SO IF IT'S NOT IN THE PLAN,
THEN WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO ADDRESS IT. 
          IS THAT WHAT THIS PARTICULAR DOCUMENT IS ABOUT? I, I WOULDN'T SAY THAT THIS DOCUMENT REFLECTS COMPLIANCE NECESSARILY WITH YOUR PROJECTS IN
THE REDEVELOPMENT PLAN. 
          THAT'S MORE IN YOUR BUDGETING PROCESS. SO EACH TIME THAT WE WE BRING FORWARD A PROJECT AND
IT'S IN A PRESENTATION, I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU THE THE GOAL, OBJECTIVE AND POLICY OUT OF YOUR REDEVELOPMENT PLAN
THAT GIVES YOU THE ABILITY TO GO FORWARD WITH THAT PROJECT. 
          SO YOUR REDEVELOPMENT PLAN, IF IT'S IN THE PLAN,
YOU CAN DO IT. 
          IF IT'S NOT IN THE PLAN, YOU CANNOT EXPEND CRA DOLLARS ON IT. 
          SO THIS DOCUMENT DOESN'T NECESSARILY ADDRESS THAT. 
          AND WHEN STATE STATUTE WAS WRITTEN, THERE WERE NOT REALLY ANY GUIDELINES OF WHAT THIS
DOCUMENT, WHAT THESE GOALS OR MEASURES WERE TO BE. SO THIS WAS A CONVERSATION THAT YOUR PROFESSIONAL
ASSOCIATION AND CRA ADMINISTRATORS WERE HAVING TO SAY HOW,
YOU KNOW, HOW ARE WE FULFILLING THIS STATUTORY REQUIREMENT NOW? AND SO WE WERE TRYING TO PROVIDE YOU GOALS AND OBJECTIVES TO LOOK AT AND THEN THE
OPPORTUNITY TO CHANGE ANY OF 
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THOSE IN ANY PERFORMANCE MEASURES THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO CHANGE. 
          SO THIS IS A DOCUMENT THAT YOU HAVE CONTROL OVER AND YOU CAN CHANGE IT TO MEET YOUR NEEDS. 
          BUT WE WE COULD NOT SAY THAT WE WOULD FUND A PROJECT THAT WOULD NOT BE PART OF YOUR
REDEVELOPMENT PLAN. 
          AND THEN THE CRA BYLAWS. WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME THAT THEY WERE LOOKED AT AND UPDATED OR. 
          IT'S BEEN IT'S BEEN A WHILE SINCE THOSE WERE UPDATED. 
          I DON'T RECALL THE THE LAST DATE ON THOSE, BUT THERE'S PROBABLY AN OPPORTUNITY TO,
TO BRING THAT FORWARD AT YOUR DIRECTION IF YOU'D LIKE TO TAKE A LOOK AT THEM AGAIN. AND THEN THE CRAB MEETINGS. 
          HOW IS THE CRAB ESTABLISHED. WAS THAT A STATUTORY REQUIREMENT OR WAS THAT A IF I RECALL, A CHOICE THAT WE MADE. TAKING THE FIFTH AVENUE VOLUNTEER ASSOCIATION AND TURNING
IT INTO AN ADVISORY BOARD. 
          THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY, SO. SO IT'S NOT STATUTORILY REQUIRED. 
          IT WAS AT THE AT THE DISCRETION OF THE CITY COUNCIL. 
          GREAT. SORRY. I THINK THIS WARRANTS A LITTLE BIT MORE DISCUSSION,
BUT I UNDERSTAND THAT. 
          WELL, WHY DON'T WE ONE OPTION, IT SOUNDS LIKE,
WOULD BE TO CONTINUE THIS TO A FUTURE MEETING AND GIVE US A CHANCE TO AND IF THERE IF THERE'S ANY EDITS TO THIS BASED ON THE FEEDBACK YOU'VE GOTTEN NOW THAT YOU
THINK ARE WORTH MAKING OR JUST IN THE NEXT AGENDA MEMORANDUM TO CAPTURE SOME OF THE COMMENTS YOU'VE HEARD. 
          THEN WE COULD LOOK AT IT AGAIN AT OUR NEXT MEETING AND HOPEFULLY APPROVE IT THEN. 
          BUT WE ARE COVERED BECAUSE YOU SUBMITTED IT ALREADY. 
          YES, IT IS POSTED. YEAH. SO. SO WE WOULD BE JUST LOOKING FOR LAST YEAR'S. 
          YEAH THE 25 WAS POSTED. IT'S POSTED. THIS IS FOR THE FOR THE CURRENT YEAR. 
          YES. OKAY. EVERYBODY OKAY WITH THAT. DO WE NEED TO ACCEPT THE 25 REPORT STILL. 
          HAS THAT BEEN DONE? IT IT'S YOU'RE ACCEPTING IT AND YOUR DISCUSSION HERE,
IT'S POSTED. 
          SO THERE'S NOT A STATUTORY REQUIREMENT FOR YOU TO ADOPT IT OR ANY RESOLUTION OR ANYTHING
LIKE THAT. 
          SO WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S PRESENTED TO YOU. 
          OKAY. IF I MAY CHAIR JUST FOOD FOR THOUGHT, SINCE WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE THE DISCUSSION
ON THE 2026 GOALS AND OBJECTIVES, IS THE STATUTE IS CLEAR. YOU ALSO HAVE TO LIST THE OBJECTIVES OR GOALS THAT YOU FAILED TO
MEET. 
          SO AS YOU GUYS ARE MULLING OVER WHAT GOALS AND OBJECTIVES DO YOU ACTUALLY WANT TO SET FOR
THE NEXT YEAR? JUST KEEP IN MIND THAT WE ACTUALLY DO HAVE TO NOTIFY AND POST ON OUR WEBSITE IF WE BELIEVE
WE FAILED TO MEET CERTAIN GOALS. 
          SO I JUST WANTED TO MENTION THAT BECAUSE I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE DISCUSSION. GOALS
THAT WE MIGHT HAVE FAILED AT THIS FOR 2025. 
          25 IS DONE. SO WHEN WE MET EVERYTHING. YES. CORRECT. 
          OKAY. SO WHAT IS IT? WHAT ARE THE WHAT ARE THE POTENTIAL OR POTENTIAL GOALS WE MIGHT FAIL? WHEN YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT SETTING, I GUESS THE POINT IS WHEN YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT
SETTING GOALS FOR 2026, KEEP IN MIND, KEEP IN MIND THAT YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEIR PERFORMANCE MEASURES ARE
ENOUGH TO SATISFY. 
          I GOT YOU. YEAH. OKAY. AS WE DESIGN THE FINAL TEST. 
          BURN. YOU HAVE TO RUN A TEN FLAT, 40 YARD DASH,
46 TO 40. 
          I STILL NEED MORE TIME. OH. ALL RIGHT, WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM TEN A THE 
          [10) CRA ADMINISTRATOR'S REPORT]
CRA ADMINISTRATOR'S REPORT, MISS JENKINS. YES. 
          THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. I DID PROVIDE TO YOU AN UPDATE ON THE PROJECTS THAT WERE NOT
DISCUSSED TODAY. 
          AND I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE ON ANY OF THOSE PROJECTS,
BUT THEY ARE ALL UNDERWAY OR COMING TO YOU AT A FUTURE DATE. 
          ANY QUESTIONS? SO THE FIRST TEN. 
          OH, SORRY, CAN I GO? YEAH. PLEASE GO. SO THE ALL OF THE PROJECTS THAT ARE LISTED IN THE
MEMORANDUM ARE ALL PROJECTS THAT ARE ALREADY BIDDED AND IN THE PROCESS OF BEING COMPLETED. 
          SO THEY HAVE NOT ALL BEEN BID. SO THERE ARE DIFFERENT,
DIFFERENT PHASES. 
          SO JUST TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE THE DESIGN WALK PROJECT IS FULLY DESIGNED AND CONCEPT,
AND WE AGREED TO BRING 
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BACK THAT PROJECT FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION FOR FUNDING CONSTRUCTION WITH THE FIRST AVENUE
SOUTH IMPROVEMENTS. 
          SO AS SOON AS WE GET THE 60% DESIGN PRESENTATION TO YOU,
WHICH WE HOPE TO BE IN YOUR AT YOUR MARCH MEETING OR AT THAT TIME FRAME WE WILL DISCUSS THAT PROJECT AGAIN. AND THAT WOULD BE FOR CONSTRUCTION FUNDING
SHOULD YOU DECIDE TO GO FORWARD WITH THAT. 
          THE FIRST, 10TH AND 12TH STREET PROJECT IS IN DESIGN,
SO THEY ARE NEARING 60% DESIGN ON THAT PROJECT. 
          AND THE LAST ACTION THAT THIS BODY TOOK WAS TO ADD ADDITIONAL STORMWATER PROJECTS TO THAT, SIGNIFICANT PROJECT THAT'S IN YOUR MULTI BASIN PLAN THAT WE BROUGHT INTO THIS THIS STREET
PROJECT ALONG WITH AN OUTFALL TO THE RIVER. 
          THE FIFTH AVENUE SOUTH AND SUGDEN PLAZA. WE DID BID THAT OUT. 
          AND AT THIS TIME WE ARE LOOKING AT NEGOTIATING A CONTRACT. 
          WE BID THAT PROJECT OUT TWICE AND EACH TIME WE ONLY RECEIVED ONE BID. 
          SO WE HAVE ONE BID WITH ONE CONTRACTOR AND WE ARE LOOKING AT NEGOTIATING THAT AT THIS
TIME. 
          THE THIRD AVENUE NORTH ON STREET PARKING. THIS BODY DID APPROVE THAT FOR CONSTRUCTION AND
THAT IS UNDERWAY. 
          SO OUR PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT IS WORKING ON THAT. 
          AND THEY'RE ANTICIPATING COMPLETION OF THOSE 24 PARKING SPACES MID MID-DECEMBER. 
          YOUR FOURTH AVENUE SOUTH PUBLIC PARKING GARAGE PAINTING PROJECT THAT WAS APPROVED ON
AUGUST 28TH. 
          THAT CONTRACT AND THAT PROJECT HAS BEEN COMPLETED. 
          SO THAT GARAGE HAS BEEN FULLY REPAIRED AND PAINTED. 
          AND THE NEXT THING WE NEED TO DO IS JUST SOME OF THE LANDSCAPE UPDATES THAT NEED TO BE
DONE THAT WERE IMPACTED FROM THE PAINTING PROJECT. 
          THE UPCOMING PROJECTS THAT YOU HAVE THAT WILL BE BRINGING FORWARD FOR ADDITIONAL
DISCUSSION. 
          AGAIN, IT'S THAT FIRST 12TH 10TH STREET PROJECT AT 60% DESIGN IN YOUR CIP. 
          YOU ALSO HAVE SECURITY CAMERAS AND BOXES AT BOTH ANTHONY PARK AND THE FOURTH AVENUE
GARAGE. 
          SO WE'LL BRING THAT FORWARD TO YOU WHEN THAT CONTRACT IS READY. 
          THE ANTHONY PARK PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT IS ALSO PART OF YOUR CIP BUDGET,
AND I BELIEVE THAT THE PARKS AND RECREATION TEAM INTEND TO TAKE A DESIGN CONCEPT OR SEVERAL DESIGN CONCEPTS TO THE CSAB THE FIRST PART OF 2026 TO GET THEIR FEEDBACK ON WHAT THAT MIGHT LOOK LIKE. 
          SO THAT'S WHERE THAT ONE IS AT. AND IT'S NOT GOING TO CRAB AFTER THE SB THEN IT COULD GO
TO CRAB. 
          I'M JUST I DON'T KNOW HOW THESE GO THROUGH THE PROCESS. 
          I MEAN, WHETHER IT WOULD JUST GO TO CRAB AND THEN TO US OR. 
          YEAH, GENERALLY WE WOULD BRING PROJECTS TO CRAB BEFORE IT COMES TO YOU FOR
RECOMMENDATIONS, UNLESS THERE'S ANY SPECIAL PROJECTS THAT YOU WANT TO DIRECT CRAB TO,
TO LOOK AT. 
          AND THEN FINALLY THE BAKER PARK PAVERS, THAT PROJECT IS CURRENTLY IN DESIGN. 
          SO WE'RE WAITING FOR THAT DESIGN TO BE COMPLETE BEFORE WE DO THE REPAIRS AND IMPROVE THE
REPLACEMENT OF THOSE PAVERS. 
          IS THAT ALSO THE RESTROOM? YES, IT'S PART OF THAT DESIGN. 
          OKAY. YES. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU, MISS JENKINS. SO SORRY. GO AHEAD. YOU HAVE SOMETHING. 
          I CAN DO IT IN CORRESPONDENCE. OKAY. MADAM CLERK,
DO WE HAVE ANY FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? I HAVE NO SLIPS. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND WE'LL MOVE TO COMMUNICATIONS. 
          [12) COMMUNICATIONS FROM CRA CHAIR, MEMBERS AND STAFF]
AND WE'LL START WITH VICE CHAIR PENMAN. RELATIVE TO DREDGING THE CANALS WE KEEP THAT SEEMS
TO KEEP COMING BACK LIKE A TENNIS BALL ALL THE TIME. SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK MAYBE WE NEED TO SOMEHOW OR OTHER RESOLVE OR
SOLVE THAT PROBLEM. 
          AS I UNDERSTAND IT, STANDARD. THE CITY TOOK A LOOK AND DID SOME SORT OF SONAR DEPTH
STUDIES OR SOMETHING. 
          AND THAT DIDN'T SEEM TO SATISFY. SO I JUST SORT OF WONDER IF MAYBE AND I MEAN,
1929, THAT IS, THAT DOES SORT OF MAKE YOU SIT UP STRAIGHT WHEN YOU HEAR THAT,
YOU KNOW, NOTHING'S BEEN TOUCHED SINCE 1929. 
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YOU KIND OF SIT UP STRAIGHT ON HEARING THAT. BUT SOMEHOW OR OTHER,
WE NEED TO PUT THAT TO BED. 
          I THINK I THINK THE COMMUNITY THINKS THAT THE FLOODING THAT GOES ON THERE IS DIRECTLY AS A
RESULT OF THOSE NOT HAVING BEEN DREDGED. 
          WE'VE HEARD THAT TIME AFTER TIME AFTER TIME. YEAH,
IT DOES KEEP COMING UP. 
          AND AND WE HAVE DISCUSSED IT BEFORE, AND I'LL TURN TO MR. MCCONNELL AND MR. YOUNG. ONE OR THE OTHER OR BOTH OF YOU AS TO WHAT RESPONSE YOU MIGHT
HAVE TO VICE CHAIR PENNIMAN'S QUESTION. 
          MY, MY, JUST AS EVERYTHING IS GOING TO BE UNDER REVIEW. 
          AND THE WHOLE LOOKING AT THE PLAN THAT WAS DISCUSSED THIS MORNING AND THE FOLLOW UP
MEETING ON THE OVER RIVER PARK, BECAUSE AS IT WAS IDENTIFIED, THERE ARE CERTAIN STORMWATER VALVES THAT ARE BEING
EVALUATED. 
          AND I WOULD JUST LIKE DOCTOR GEORGE'S PART OF THAT TO LOOK AT THE ACTUAL CANALS AND,
AND HAVE THAT AS PART OF THAT OVERALL PRESENTATION AND THEN HAVE A DISCUSSION BECAUSE AS I, AS WE TALKED ABOUT,
THIS IS A PERIOD OF TRANSITION AND CHANGE, BUT ALSO OPPORTUNITY TO REEVALUATE. AND I WANT TO GET HIS TAKE NOW ON THAT ASPECT OF IT AS
IT'S ANALYZED IN CONTEXT OF THE OVERALL AREA. SO THAT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION. 
          BUT AGAIN, I CERTAINLY WE CAN DO SOMETHING SOONER. 
          I JUST DON'T REALLY WANT TO PREEMPT HIM OF WHAT WE'VE ALREADY DEEMED TO BE ONE OF THE MOST
IMPORTANT PROJECTS BY THIS BODY, AND I THINK COUNCIL AS WELL. SO THAT'S MY ONLY THING ON THAT. 
          DO WE KNOW WHAT KIND OF COST WOULD BE INVOLVED IF WE HIRED A. 
          I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH. I WOULDN'T I WOULDN'T VENTURE TO TAKE A GUESS WITHOUT HAVING
SOMEBODY COME IN. 
          YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I THINK WE'VE BEEN TOLD BY SOMEBODY ELSE HE COULD DO IT FOR. 
          BUT YEAH, I WAS TOLD I COULD HAVE THE PIER DONE FOR 100 BUCKS THE OTHER DAY,
SO I'LL DEFER MY COMMENTS. 
          YOU PROBABLY COULD. WELL, THE QUESTION THE QUESTION IS ALSO A LEGAL QUESTION IN TERMS OF
RESPONSIBILITY. 
          WELL, AND THAT'S THE OTHER PART OF IT THAT I WANT IS THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED A NUMBER OF
TIMES. 
          AND THEN THE OTHER PART IS THAT'S WHY I SAID IT. 
          I WASN'T TRYING TO ANSWER THE QUESTION. I JUST I'LL LEAVE THAT TO MATTHEW IF THAT'S WHAT
HE WANTS TO ANSWER. 
          WELL, I THINK MR.. TO MR. YOUNG'S POINT, I THINK CRA TODAY HAS MADE SOME CLEAR PRIORITY
DECISIONS THAT WE WILL GO BACK AND WORK. 
          THAT BEING ONE OF THEM. WE'LL LOOK AT THE LEGAL ASPECT OF WHAT HIM AND DOCTOR GEORGE
WORKED THROUGH AS WELL. 
          WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER IS BROUGHT TO YOU AS A FINAL PRODUCT THAT'S BEEN FULLY
VETTED BY BOTH OFFICES. OKAY. 
          AND BECAUSE AND LET ME JUST SAY THIS BECAUSE I DO THINK THE QUESTION WAS ALREADY ANSWERED
IS, IS DOES IT END AT THE BOUNDARY OF THE CRA? AND I THINK THAT WAS CLEAR. 
          THAT'S WHAT PUT IT SQUARELY IN THE RELATIONSHIP OF THE CITY AS OPPOSED TO THE CRA. 
          I THINK THAT WAS ALREADY MADE CLEAR ON A NUMBER OF FRONTS. 
          THAT'S MY THAT'S RIGHT. THAT'S RIGHT. YEAH. I'D FORGOTTEN WHICH. 
          YEAH. OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE? VICE CHAIR MEMBER. 
          BARTON. ACTUALLY, ON THAT NOTE, I THOUGHT THAT IT HAD BEEN DETERMINED THAT THAT WAS THAT
FELL UNDER THE PURVIEW OF THE CITY COUNCIL AND NOT THE CRA, ANYWAY. AND IF ASSUMING THAT THAT IS AN ACCURATE STATEMENT OR ANSWER,
THE GOAL HAS BEEN ACHIEVED, WHICH WAS IF IT IS A CITY RESPONSIBILITY, NOT A CRA RESPONSIBILITY. 
          THOSE TWO ARE ALREADY WE JUST GOT CONFIRMATION THAT THEY'RE DELVING DELVING BACK INTO IT. 
          SO I THINK WE'RE WE'RE PROBABLY GOOD WITH THAT,
EVEN IF ULTIMATELY THE ANSWER IS THAT IT'S A CITY ISSUE, NOT A CRA ISSUE. I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING OTHER THAN THAT. 
          WELL, I MEAN, JUST TO THAT POINT OTHER AREAS OF THE CITY ALSO FLOOD OTHER AREAS OF THE CITY EXPERIENCED THE SAME HORRIBLE SITUATION THAT RIVER PARK EAST EXPERIENCED. 
          I WATCHED AND I WAS A PART OF A STORY OF A MAN WHO WATCHED HIS WIFE FLOAT TO THE TOP AS
SHE WAS PASSED AWAY. 
          SO THOSE HORRIBLE STORIES ARE IN MY MIND FOR EVERY AREA OF THIS COMMUNITY BECAUSE OF IAN. 
          SO MY HEART GOES TO THE WHOLE COMMUNITY AS WELL AS THE RIVER PARK EAST COMMUNITY. 
          DO I BELIEVE THAT THEIR AREA HAS BEEN NEGLECTED OVER THE YEARS? YES. I'VE BEEN THE ONE PERSON WHO HAS STOOD CONSISTENTLY AND STATED WE ARE DOING FOR FIFTH
AND THIRD. 
          I MEAN FIFTH AND THE DESIGN OR USED TO BE DOWNTOWN,
MAINLY FIFTH, AND IGNORED OUR RESPONSIBILITIES TO RIVER PARK EAST. SO I BELIEVE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE ARE MAKING GREAT STRIDES. 
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I MEAN, BRAVO TO THIS COUNCIL AND MANAGEMENT FOR TAKING THE REINS AND SAYING,
WE'RE GOING TO FOCUS IN HERE ON RIVER PARK EAST. 
          OTHER AREAS OF THE CITY HAVE THEIR CANALS DREDGED,
AND THEY HAVE AN ASSESSMENT TO PAY FOR IT. 
          THEY WANT A NEW DOCK. THEY BUY THEIR OWN DOCK. 
          IF THAT AREA IS PRONE TO FLOODING BECAUSE THEIR AREA HASN'T BEEN DREDGED. 
          THEN IF THAT IS A CITY ISSUE, BUT IT CAN BE PAID FOR BY THROUGH THE CRA,
THEN THAT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT AND CHANGE OUR PRIORITIES AND OUR CRA PLAN. SHE USED THAT THREAD. DID THEY FORM AN MSTU OR DID THEY JUST AGREE THAT NO, IT WAS AN AS AN ASSESSMENT ON ALL PROPERTY OWNERS? RIGHT. SO YES, IT KEEPS COMING UP. DREDGING AND SEAWALLS. 
          WE HAVE TO REALLY MAKE A POLICY DECISION OR GIVE SOME ALTERNATIVES. 
          AS MR. YOUNG HAS STATED. I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT. 
          I WAS JUST TALKING BECAUSE. TAGGING ON TO YOU THE BOARD IN GENERAL,
THE CRAB ADVISORY BOARD, AS WE'RE LOOKING AT OTHER ADVISORY BOARDS WITHIN THE CITY AND HOW THEY
FUNCTION, HOW THEY GIVE US RECOMMENDATIONS HOW WE HOW THEIR AGENDAS ARE FORMED AND HOW PROJECTS COME
FROM THESE DIFFERENT BOARDS. AND SOMETIMES THERE ARE GOOD IDEAS THAT COME FROM THESE BOARDS,
AND THEY MAKE IT TO COUNCIL, AND COUNCIL MAKES A DECISION. SOMETIMES THEY DON'T AND THEY CAUSE PROBLEMS. WHEN I, I MEAN, I'M TRULY I APPRECIATE THE CRAB MEMBERS AND THEIR COMMITMENT TO SERVE A
LOT OF TIME. 
          AND WE APPRECIATE ALL OF THEM, ESPECIALLY THE CRAB,
BUT AND. 
          THE INTENTIONALITY OF A BOARD WE SHOULD BE DIRECTING THE BOARDS ON WHAT ISSUES TO WORK ON
AND IF THEY WANT US TO. 
          IF THEY WANT TO RECOMMEND SOMETHING, THEN IT SHOULD COME TO US FOR APPROVAL. 
          AND IT IS KIND OF GETTING OUT OF WHACK THAT THINGS GO TO THE BOARD. 
          AND I JUST LOOKED AT THE LAST MINUTES AND THEY MAY BE GREAT IDEAS,
BUT I THINK THEY'RE IDEAS THAT END UP COMING AND DISRUPTING OUR PRIORITIES AND OUR FUNDING RESOURCES. 
          SO I REALLY WANT TO TAKE TIME IN A FUTURE MEETING. 
          MR. CHAIRMAN, AND LOOKING AT THE DUTIES, THE RESPONSIBILITIES AND THE ACTIONS THAT ARE
TAKEN, I MEAN, GREAT LOVE, WONDERFUL IDEAS. BUT THE CRAB DECIDED THAT THEY WANTED TO PUT A FOOT
BRIDGE FOR MULTI MODAL BRIDGE IN ANTHONY PARK TO THE COUNTY THROUGH THE GORDON RIVER GREENWAY. 
          THAT'S A GRANDIOSE IDEA, BUT THEY ALL AGREED UPON IT. 
          NOW I'M I'M ASSUMING THAT'S GOING TO WILL BE COMING TO US AS A RECOMMENDATION IF IF THEY
VOTED ON IT. 
          WE TALKED ABOUT THIS BRIEFLY AT OUR LAST MEETING AND SAID NO. 
          RIGHT. SO WE STOPPED IT. BUT I'M USING THAT AS AN EXAMPLE. 
          RIGHT. AND IT'S NOT JUST THAT ONE, BUT THERE ARE OTHER IDEAS THAT THAT COME FORWARD THAT
ARE I MEAN, QUITE FRANKLY, WE JUST I WOULD LIKE TO REVIEW THEIR BYLAWS,
LOOK AT WHAT THEY'RE TASKED TO DO, THEIR MEETINGS AND HOW WE CAN USE THEM TO BENEFIT,
THE COMMUNITY AND THAT IT IS EFFICIENT FOR STAFF. AND WE'RE RUNNING. I THINK EFFICIENTLY AND FUNCTIONING PROPERLY,
THAT'S ALL. 
          SO AGAIN, CERTAINLY APPRECIATE THEIR PARTICIPATION. 
          BUT AGAIN, THERE ARE MEMBERS ON THERE THAT ARE SELF-SERVING. 
          I MEAN, I VOTED FOR SCHUCHART BECAUSE I WANTED TRANSPARENCY AND HIS IDEAS OF WHERE HE
WANTED TO TAKE THINGS. 
          BUT IT'S VERY DIFFICULT WHEN YOU HAVE SOMEONE WHO IS SELF SERVING ON A BOARD TO BE
OBJECTIVE 
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IN THE DIRECTION OF PRIORITIES. SO I JUST THINK WE HAVE TO BE SO VERY CAREFUL WITH THAT SO
THAT WE DON'T LOSE FOCUS. 
          AND I THINK THE WHOLE POINT OF THIS IS IN THE PAST,
THE CRAB HAS DIRECTED. 
          AND THAT'S WHERE THE COUNCIL HAS MADE THEIR DECISIONS,
IS BY SPECIAL INTERESTS THAT HAVE BEEN ON OUR BOARDS. 
          AND WE JUST NEED TO REALIZE THAT THAT'S WHY SOMETIMES OUR PRIORITIES AREN'T MET. 
          SO YEAH, THE ONLY THING I WOULD ADD. EXCUSE ME,
MR. CHAIRMAN. I JUST WANTED TO ADD ONE THING TO THAT. 
          ONLY FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF YOU'RE GETTING READY TO HAVE A VERY SUBSTANTIAL MEETING THAT
IS GOING TO HAVE SUBSTANTIAL COST RAMIFICATIONS FROM THE CRA. 
          AND YOU MAY HAVE, DEPENDING ON IF IT REQUIRES THE ISSUANCE OF DEBT OR NOT. 
          BECAUSE REMEMBER, THE CRA LAPSES IN 2045. SO THE POINT BEING IS IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT DEBT FOR A 10 OR 20 YEAR PERIOD, YOU MAY HAVE A FINITE AMOUNT OF MONEY AS IT IS. 
          SO REVIEWING THE BYLAWS AND DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT IN THE COMING YEAR,
AFTER YOU'VE MADE SOME OF THESE SUBSTANTIAL DECISIONS AND WHETHER YOU WANT TO HEAR ABOUT THINGS THAT YOU MAY NOT BE ABLE TO GET ACCOMPLISHED. I THINK THAT WOULD BE THE TIMING OF
HAVING THE CONVERSATION. 
          I JUST THE KEY POINT TO THAT IS, IS THAT THIS THIS TOO SHALL COME TO AN END. 
          AND THE POINT BEING, THIS 20 YEARS SEEMS LIKE A LONG TIME,
BUT IT'S VERY SHORT. 
          AND SO I THINK THAT'S YOUR PRIORITIZATION GOING INTO THOSE DISCUSSIONS THAT WE'RE GOING TO
HAVE ON THOSE ON, ON THESE ITEMS IS GOING TO, IS GOING TO OBLIGATE SOME FUNDS FOR AN EXTENDED PERIOD OF
TIME. 
          AND I THINK WE'LL KNOW WHEN THOSE THAT LANDS WHAT WE WANT TO LOOK LIKE AND HOW MANY MORE
SUGGESTIONS WE SHOULD JUST BE HAVING THROWN AT US. 
          YEAH, JUST MY RECOMMENDATION. THANK YOU. AND THEN THE LAST PIECE THAT I HAVE IS THE
LIGHTING ON 10TH. 
          FOR THE LIFE OF ME, I CAN'T FIGURE THIS OUT. WE HAVE HAD CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THE LIGHTING. 
          LAST NIGHT, IT WAS THE DARKEST STREET IN THE WHOLE COMMUNITY. 
          I AND AND THEY WERE HAVING A CHRISTMAS STROLL. 
          I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED. DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA? NO, JUST. JUST THAT MISS KURTZ REPORTED THAT TO US. 
          THAT FPL WAS NOTIFIED AS SOON AS POSSIBLE TO TO GET THE LIGHTS ON. 
          BUT THE LIGHTING IS PART OF THE 10TH STREET PROJECT,
SO ANY IMPROVEMENTS? IF YOU DECIDE THAT, YOU KNOW, PEDESTRIAN LEVEL LIGHTING IN ADDITION TO THE LAMPS WOULD
HELP THAT AREA AND PEDESTRIANS MOVE ABOUT GREATER THAT WOULD BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU TO INCREASE THE,
THE LIGHTING IN THAT AREA. 
          BUT AS FAR AS OPERATIONS GO AND WHAT WENT WRONG? I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY WHAT WHAT WENT WRONG THERE. 
          OKAY. MAYBE IT'S JUST I MEAN, LIGHTS ARE OUT. 
          I CAN'T IMAGINE ALL OF THE STREET LIGHTS WERE OUT WITH,
I MEAN, LIGHT BULBS. 
          I'LL HAVE ALLISON REACH OUT TO CHARLOTTE AND JUST TO SEE WHAT EXACTLY TRANSPIRED SO THAT
WE HAVE SOME INFORMATION. 
          I APPRECIATE IT, AND WE'LL JUST EMAIL COUNCIL. 
          I JUST DON'T WANT TO JUST SEND US AN EMAIL. YEAH. 
          THANK YOU. AND DO WE DO WE NOT APPROVE FOR CHRISTMAS LIGHTS IN THAT AREA? IT'S PART OF YOUR CITY COUNCIL BUDGET FOR BOTH THE FIFTH AVENUE AND THE DESIGN DISTRICT. 
          THERE IS HOLIDAY DECOR IN BOTH. YOU MIGHT NOTICE THE GARLAND AROUND THE LAMPPOSTS. 
          YES, IT WENT UP. SO? SO THAT WAS APPROVED IN PART OF YOUR CITY COUNCIL BUDGET? RIGHT. DID WE EVER CLARIFY HOW THAT GOT MOVED INTO THE CITY COUNCIL BUDGET AND NOT THE CRA
BUDGET? I RECALL THIS CONVERSATION BECAUSE IT WAS A CITY COUNCIL CONVERSATION. 
          YEAH. BUT IT WAS MOVED TWO YEARS AGO. BASED ON IT BY THE CRA, SAYING THAT IT WASN'T A LEGITIMATE EXPENSE OF THE CRA. 
          UNDER THE BYLAWS OF THE CRA. AND THEN IT WAS PUT IN,
BUT IT WAS DROPPED INTO A OPERATIONAL ACCOUNT WITHIN THE COMMUNITY SERVICES. AND WHEN I TOOK OVER AS CITY MANAGER,
I SAID, WELL, IF YOU'RE GOING TO PUT IT, YOU NEED TO AT LEAST DISTINGUISH THAT YOU'RE NOT JUST BURYING
IT IN OPERATIONAL COST. 
          AND SO WHEN WE HAD OUR BUDGET MEETINGS THIS LAST YEAR,
I IDENTIFIED IT FOR YOU, MADE SURE YOU KNEW THAT THIS WAS ACTUALLY AUTHORIZING THAT. 
          NOW, FULL TRANSPARENCY. IT WASN'T A SEPARATE DELINEATED NUMERICAL LINE ITEM,
BUT IT DID SAY IT IN THE LINE ITEM LIKE 
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IN NOTES OF IT. BUT I JUST WE EMPHASIZE THAT. 
          LOOK, DO YOU REALIZE THIS IS FALLING THERE NOW? AND THAT'S WHAT WE DID IN THIS BUDGET. SO THAT'S IT'S THIS IS IN ITS SECOND YEAR THAT IT'S
BEING PART OF THE GENERAL FUND. 
          OPERATIONAL BUDGET. IT STILL RESIDES WITHIN THE COMMUNITY SERVICES,
BUT IT IS A SPECIFIED LINE ITEM WITHIN IT, ADOPTED IN THE REGULAR GENERAL FUND BUDGET. I DON'T NEED TO DO DETAILS NOW,
BUT THAT WE SKIPPED OVER THAT VERY QUICKLY. 
          BECAUSE I THOUGHT THE BID ALSO PAID FOR DECORATIONS AND LIGHTING. 
          THE BID DOES CONTINUE TO PAY FOR CERTAIN LIGHTING THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. 
          YOU MAY KNOW MORE ABOUT THAT, BUT THERE IS STILL A DELINEATION BETWEEN THAT. 
          THERE ARE THERE ARE LIGHTS PAID FOR BY THE BID THAT CONTINUES. 
          THERE WAS ALSO A PORTION THAT WAS PAID FOR BY THE CRA SPECIFICALLY. 
          SO I, I REALLY THINK WE NEED TO REVISIT THAT AS A COUNCIL AND UNDERSTAND BECAUSE CAMBRIA
PARK DOESN'T HAVE CHRISTMAS LIGHTS, THE CITY HALL DOESN'T HAVE CHRISTMAS LIGHTS AND A SHOPPING AREA THAT HAS TAXING
DISTRICT SHOULDN'T BE PUTTING ALL THE EXPENSE OF THERE. 
          I JUST THINK IT NEEDS TO BE REEVALUATED ON HOW AND WHERE WE ARE DOING OUR HOLIDAY LIGHTS. 
          AND I THOUGHT 10TH WAS DEFINITELY ONE OF THOSE AREAS. 
          THAT 10TH WAS GOING TO BE LIT UP. BUT IF WE CAN DO SOME RESEARCH ON WHERE WE LEFT THAT,
THAT WOULD BE GREAT AND HAVE IT AS A CONVERSATION. 
          I DO LOVE THE TREES WRAPPED IN GREENERY, BUT I DO THINK THAT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT LIGHTS. 
          TWO OTHER THINGS THAT WE CAN'T DISCUSS NOW. AND THAT WAS DO WE HAVE STANDARDS FOR MURALS
AND THE PUBLIC ART? I HEARD THAT THEY'RE GOING TO THAT THE DESIGN DISTRICT WANTS TO GO TO DRB TO GET APPROVAL
FOR MURALS. 
          AND IF THAT'S THE WAY THAT THE PROCESS GOES. I'M I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED NOW. 
          THAT IS THE WAY THE PROCESS GOES. SO YOU'RE COMBINING I THINK IN MY OPINION,
TWO DIFFERENT, TWO DIFFERENT THOUGHTS. AND EITHER WAY THEY BOTH GO TO THE DRB NOW BY COUNCIL ACTION WHEN
YOU DID AWAY WITH THE PUBLIC ART BOARD. 
          THAT BEING SAID, THIS ISN'T A PUBLIC ART THAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR. 
          THIS WOULD BE A USE OF CRA FUNDS TO PUT A FACADE,
WHICH INCLUDES A MURAL WITHIN THE DESIGN DISTRICT, SO IT ISN'T PUBLIC ART BECAUSE NO PUBLIC ART FUNDS ARE BEING EXPENDED FOR THAT PURPOSE. 
          SO I JUST WANT TO DELINEATE THAT BECAUSE IT'S NOT THE PUBLIC ART FUND. 
          SHOULD YOU HAVE DONE THIS IN THE CRA, YOU WOULD BE ELECTING TO USE CRA DOLLARS TO PUT A
MURAL ON AN EXISTING BUILDING WITHIN THE DESIGN DISTRICT. AS SUCH, WHEN COUNCIL DID AWAY WITH CERTAIN THINGS OF EVALUATING ART AND
ALSO FACADE DESIGN ALSO GOES TO THE DRB. SO IN EITHER CASE, MURALS HAVE APPEARED IN TWO DIFFERENT SECTIONS OF
THE CODE, BUT THEY'RE NOW BOTH DELINEATED TO DRB. BUT WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR. 
          WELL, I'M NOT ASKING FOR ANYTHING, BUT BUT THERE IS NO PUBLIC ART COMPONENT TO IT. 
          THIS IS THE EQUIVALENT OF FUNDING A MURAL WITHIN A SPECIFIC AREA ON A BUILDING ITSELF. 
          THAT WOULD MAKE IT A FACADE CHANGE, WHICH WOULD REQUIRE DRB APPROVAL AS TO THE ESTHETIC
AND OTHER NATURE OF IT. 
          SO THAT'S THE WAY IT WOULD WORK AT THE MOMENT. 
          AND UNDER THE CRA PROGRAM, ANY MURAL THAT WAS PUT ON A PRIVATE BUILDING,
IT WOULD STILL, UNLESS YOU CHANGE THAT THE THE FACADE, OF COURSE, THAT MURAL IS NOT CONSTITUTED AS A FACADE CHANGE. 
          IT WOULDN'T THEN IT WOULD STILL GO TO DRB NO MATTER WHAT. 
          SO THOSE ARE MY UNDERSTANDINGS AS I AS I UNDERSTAND IT,
I JUST WANTED TO DELINEATE BETWEEN THE PUBLIC ART PART, BECAUSE IT ISN'T IT ISN'T US USING IT'S NOT USING PUBLIC ART FUNDS. 
          IT'S HELPING TO ASSIST TO CREATE A FACADE IMPROVEMENT ON AN EXISTING PRIVATE VENUE. 
          OKAY, SO IN THE DRB HANDBOOK, MURALS ARE DEFINED. 
          I SAID I WASN'T TALKING ABOUT THE HANDBOOK, I WAS TALKING ABOUT THE CODE THAT SAYS THAT
MURALS ARE PART OF WHAT DRB EVALUATES. 
          I I'M NOT PREPARED TO GO THROUGH WHAT'S IN THERE. 
          I THINK WE NEED TO REVIEW THAT QUICKLY BECAUSE MURALS ARE POPPING UP. 
          AND I DID NOT KNOW THAT THIS COUNCIL APPROVED FOR MURALS TO I MEAN,
WE ALL GOT NOTIFICATION ABOUT THE TISSUE BOX ON, ON DAVIS BOULEVARD. SO, I MEAN, YOU KNOW,
YOU COULD GET A TISSUE BOX OR YOU COULD GET A SKULL OR YOU COULD GET SOME BEAUTIFUL PICTURES LIKE WE SAW TODAY. AND I DON'T KNOW THE CRITERIA. 
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AND I'VE GONE TO CITIES WHERE, I MEAN, IT'S IT'S SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO HAVE SOME
CRITERIA OR WE'RE GOING TO END UP WITH AS ONE DRB ARCHITECTURAL MEMBER SAID, IT'S A SLIPPERY SLOPE ON WHERE, WHERE IT GOES, WHAT IS IT? AND OBVIOUSLY IT'S ART AND THAT'S THE PERCEPTION AND
THE EYE OF THE BEHOLDER. 
          SO I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THAT AS A CONVERSATION. 
          BUT IT'S A CITY COUNCIL DISCUSSION, WOULDN'T YOU AGREE? NOT A CRA BOARD DISCUSSION. WELL, I AGREE, EXCEPT FOR I KIND OF HEARD TODAY THAT THEY WANT
TO GO TO THE DRB. 
          WELL, THEY DID, BUT WE TABLED THAT, REMEMBER. 
          SO THERE'S NOTHING THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN ON THAT FRONT. 
          CORRECT. OKAY. SO WE'RE GOING TO MAKE IT. WE BETTER GET SOME POLICIES AND DECISIONS ON
COUNCIL THEN. 
          MR. YOUNG, I WILL ADD IT TO THE LIST OF PRIORITIES FOR,
YOU KNOW, AND I DON'T SAY THAT FACETIOUSLY. 
          I KNOW YOU GUYS TO ASCERTAIN THAT I SHOULDN'T JUST FOR THE RECORD. 
          WE TABLED ANY CONSIDERATION OF PROVIDING FUNDING FOR THAT EFFORT. 
          I SUPPOSE THE DESIGN DISTRICT ASSOCIATION HAS THE RIGHT TO CONTINUE TO, THROUGH OTHER FUNDING SOURCES, PURSUE THAT PROJECT. 
          AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS THE SAME AS MR. YOUNG'S,
WHETHER IT'S IN THE CRA OR NOT. 
          IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO GET APPROVAL FOR A MURAL UNDER OUR CODE,
THEY GO TO THE DRB. 
          THAT'S WHAT THAT'S IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH CRA. 
          IT'S. IT'S CITYWIDE. THAT'S CORRECT. THAT'S ALL I WAS TRYING TO GET AT. 
          WELL, I WOULD SAY ASAP. WE NEED TO GET A HANDLE ON THIS. 
          THANK YOU. THAT'S IT. THANK YOU. OKAY. GOOD MEETING. 
          THANK YOU MEMBER CRAMER. THANK YOU CHAIR. JUST THREE QUICK THINGS ONE WITH REGARDS TO AND YOU BROUGHT UP MR. SCHUCHART. I WANT TO THROW HIM UNDER A BUS. 
          BUT PEOPLE BEING SELF-SERVING. MY ASSUMPTION IS ALWAYS THAT EVERYONE ON EVERY COMMITTEE OR
BOARD HAS AN AGENDA OF SOME SORT. JUST LIKE EVERY PARENT WHO WANTS HELP WITH WHATEVER PROGRAM HAS AN AGENDA OF
SOME SORT. 
          AND THERE MAY BE THOSE THAT DON'T. AND THANK THE GOOD LORD FOR THEM,
AND THEY'RE A BREATH OF FRESH AIR. BUT I THINK AND IT'S NOT CYNICAL TO TO THINK THAT WAY. 
          I THINK THAT'S THE REALITY OF LIFE. THE OTHER THING FOR MISS LINDA COUNCIL OR BOARD MEMBER
PENMAN, WE STAFF TOLD US IN WHATEVER CONSULTANTS TOLD US. 
          AND MORE THAN ONCE THAT DREDGING THOSE CANALS WOULD NOT AFFECT,
WOULDN'T AFFECT FLOODING, THAT THEY DIDN'T CAUSE FLOODING. NOW THEY'RE STILL THERE'S THOSE THAT DON'T JUST DON'T
BELIEVE THAT RIGHT NOW. 
          AND I'M NOT OPPOSED TO DREDGING THEM. I DON'T I'M NOT SAYING THAT EITHER,
BECAUSE AS FAR AS, AS FAR AS NAVIGATING YOUR, YOUR VESSEL, THAT'S YOU CAN GET BIGGER BOATS IN THERE. 
          IT'S THAT SIMPLE. AND IF YOU WANT PROPERTY VALUES TO GO UP,
THAT'S A GREAT WAY TO DO IT. 
          I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT POINT THAT JUST IN CASE ANYBODY WANTS TO ASSOCIATE THAT WITH
FLOODING, THAT IS NOT THE CASE AS FAR AS ALL THE EXPERTS HAVE TOLD US. 
          AND THEN FINALLY, I JUST WANT TO THANK OUR CHAIR. 
          A GREAT JOB. THANK YOU FOR THE HARD WORK YOU DO FOR THE CRA. 
          AND CERTAINLY, MISS JENKINS, THANK YOU FOR BEING AN EXPERT. 
          AND JUST THINK, THESE 20 YEARS ARE GOING TO FLY BY AND YOU'RE STILL GOING TO BE WITH US. 
          ISN'T THAT GREAT? THANK YOU. MEMBER PETRANOFF. 
          I WANTED TO THANK THE ENTIRE BOARD FOR THE HARD WORK THAT WAS TODAY AND FOR BEING HAVING
OPEN MINDS, AS YOU ALWAYS DO, TO BE ABLE TO LOOK AT FLEXIBILITY ON HOW GETTING NEW INFORMATION AND NEW
LEADERS ON BOARD THAT WE CAN FLEX AND CHANGE OUR PRIORITIES, IF IT MAKES SENSE TO DO SO. GIVEN OUR FLOODING AND GIVEN THE ADDITION OF
DOCTOR GEORGE. 
          SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WANTED TO EXPRESS MY GREAT THANKS OF BEING A PART OF THIS BOARD. 
          THIS WAS A LOT OF FUN. AND I LEARNED A LOT BECAUSE I THINK THIS IS PROBABLY MY LAST
MEETING. 
          UNLESS WE CAN SQUEEZE ONE IN IN JANUARY. WHICH I WOULD LOVE TO DO. 
          I WOULD LOVE TO BE PART OF THAT. BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG IT'S GOING TO TAKE TO GET THE
INFORMATION BACK. 
          BUT IT'S BEEN A IT'S BEEN A REAL EYE OPENER FOR ME. 
          I'VE NEVER DEALT WITH THIS BEFORE. AND I'VE NEVER DEALT WITH A LOT OF THESE COMMUNITIES
BEFORE, SO THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY. VERY MUCH. THANK YOU FOR THOSE COMMENTS. 
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VERY NICE. THANKS, VICE MAYOR. THANK YOU. JUST ONE ONE COMMENT TO MAKE. 
          AND IT IT CAME TO ME AS WE WERE DEALING WITH THE REPRIORITIZATION DISCUSSION THAT WE HAD EARLIER INTO THE IN THE DAY. AND I WANT TO BRIEFLY TAKE US BACK SO WE ALL KNOW WHERE
THE COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY AND A LONG TIME AGO, FIFTH AVENUE WAS AN AREA WHICH NEEDED REVITALIZATION. 
          THE CITY RESPONDED AND AFTER CONSIDERABLE PLANNING,
ALONG WITH CRA FUNDED INVESTMENT, STUNNING CHANGES TOOK PLACE. 
          THE FIFTH AVENUE AREA CONTINUES TO BE AN ENVIABLE SUCCESS. 
          THAT AREA. THIS AREA HAS POSITIVELY IMPACTED BUSINESSES,
RESIDENTS, OUR WORKFORCE AND MORE. 
          IN LOOKING BACK, WE PROBABLY COULD HAVE DONE A BETTER JOB IN ALLOCATING FUNDS MORE
EQUITABLY, RIGHT? THE FOCUS WAS THERE. WE RESPONDED TO THE FOCUS. 
          WE'RE LIVING WITH THE SUCCESS OF THAT. BUT WE ALSO HAVE HAD UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES,
RIGHT. 
          WE DEALT WITH THAT TODAY. THAT'S WHAT THEY TOLD US. 
          SO CONSIDER THE FIFTH AVENUE SOUTH AREA OF THE CRA VERSUS 10TH STREET,
THE 10TH STREET CORRIDOR VERSUS THE RIVER PARK EAST NEIGHBORHOOD, BECAUSE THEY'RE ALL IN THE CRA. 
          SO AS WE SHIFT FOCUS TO OTHER AREAS, NOTABLY THE RIVER PARK EAST NEIGHBORHOOD,
LET'S ENSURE WE JUST DON'T LET THE PENDULUM SWING SO FAR IN THE OTHER DIRECTION THAT WE DUPLICATE ERRORS
MADE IN THE PAST. THERE'S A WAY TO DO IT RIGHT, AND WE ARE. 
          WE HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY. SO MY ASK IS THIS CONSIDER AS THE CRA THAT YOU BROADEN THE SCOPE OF HOW YOU MEASURE THE ADVANCEMENTS. 
          IDENTIFY SOME BEST PRACTICES FOR REEVALUATING ADVANCEMENTS MADE IN FORMERLY BLIGHTED
AREAS. 
          RIGHT. WE MADE ADVANCEMENTS IN A FORMERLY BLIGHTED AREA. 
          WE'RE ABOUT TO MAKE ADVANCEMENTS. PERHAPS IN RIVER PARK EAST. 
          WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE CHANGES IN PROPERTY VALUES,
THE INVESTMENT THAT'S ATTRACTED RESIDENT RETENTION, HOUSING QUALITY IMPROVEMENTS. 
          WE NEED BASELINE DATA FOR BEFORE AND AFTER COMPARISONS. 
          AND IT NEEDS, IN MY OPINION, IT NEEDS TO MIX QUANTITATIVE AND QUALITATIVE METHODS. 
          MONITOR THE EQUITY IMPACTS AND THE POTENTIAL DISPLACEMENT IMPACTS AND MEASURE HOUSING
AFFORDABILITY OVER TIME. IN OTHER WORDS WHAT'S THE PROPER BALANCE? THERE'S NO QUESTION ABOUT IT THAT WE HAVE MORE WORK TO DO AND TO RIGHT THE SHIP. 
          BUT WE ALSO NEED TO UNDERSTAND. WHAT THE MISSION IS,
WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO GO. 
          IF WE DON'T CLEARLY DEFINE IT, THEN WE'LL NEVER KNOW WHEN WE REACH IT. 
          RIGHT. IT'S KIND OF TAKES ME BACK TO COVID. AND I HATE TO BRING UP THAT MEMORY,
BUT THERE WAS A BIG PUSH TO MANDATE MASKS. RIGHT? WEAR THESE MASKS. BUT THERE WAS NEVER AN EFFORT TO DEFINE A METRIC WHEN THAT
WOULD BE CLAWED BACK. SO AS WE LOOK AT THE CRA FUNDING, LET'S KNOW WHEN WE'VE BEEN SUCCESSFUL IN THE RIVER
PARK EAST AREA AND TRY TO HAVE A A BALANCED APPROACH AS WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH ADDRESSING THAT AREA BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT TO LOSE THE GROUND. 
          AND I KNOW THIS IS ON THE MIND OF THE CHAIRMAN AND OTHERS. 
          WE DO. WE JUST CAN'T STOP EVERYTHING ELSE. IT IS REPRIORITIZATION. 
          BUT WE NEED BALANCE. SO THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. 
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THANK YOU, VICE MAYOR. MISS JENKINS, ANYTHING FROM YOU? NOTHING FURTHER? NO. MR. YOUNG. NO, SIR. MR. MCCONNELL? NO, SIR. THANK YOU. OKAY, I'LL JUST I JUST HAVE ONE COMMENT TO MAKE. 
          AND OBVIOUSLY, THE THEME OF THE DAY HAS BEEN RESILIENCY. 
          AND AND I'M NOT GOING TO GO BACK OVER WHAT HAS BEEN SAID AND WHAT WE'VE AGREED TO,
AND IT'S ALL GOOD. 
          I JUST WANT TO PUT AN EXCLAMATION POINT BEHIND ONE THING. 
          AND THIS BUILDS A BIT ON WHAT THE VICE MAYOR JUST SAID. 
          WE'VE AGREED TO ELEVATE RIVER PARK EAST AND PROPERLY SO FROM A PRIORITIZATION STANDPOINT. 
          WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT RESILIENCY PROJECTS IN THE CRA AND LET'S JUST LIMIT OURSELVES TO THE
CRA AREA EAST OF ROUTE 41 WE HAVE UNDERWAY AND WE'VE SPENT PROBABLY ALREADY IN THE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS ON DESIGN AND ENGINEERING, A PROJECT THAT IS WHAT WE CALL THE FIRST AVENUE SOUTH 10TH
STREET PROJECT, JUST TO GIVE IT A NAME. IT'S A PROJECT THAT WILL REDUCE FLOOD RISK,
AMONG OTHER THINGS, FOR AN EXTENSIVE AREA AS PROPOSED. NOW, IT'S THE SECOND BIGGEST INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECT IN
THE HISTORY OF NAPLES, AFTER THE BEACH OUTFALL PROJECT. IT WILL ASSIST. 
          IT WILL IT WILL BENEFIT LOW AND MODERATE INCOME PEOPLE LIVING IN GEORGE WASHINGTON CARVER. 
          JADE, JASMINE K BY MY COUNT, AROUND 250 HOUSEHOLDS JUST IN THOSE THREE LOCATIONS. 
          IT WILL BENEFIT SMALL BUSINESSES ALONG 10TH STREET,
FIRST AVENUE SOUTH AND OTHER AVENUES. 
          AND IT IS, I THINK MAYBE IT WAS. MEMBER CRAMER SAID THIS AT ONE POINT EARLIER THAT THERE'S
IMPLICATIONS AND LINKAGES. 
          OVER TO GOODLETTE FRANK ROAD AND OVER TO RIVER PARK ON THE EAST SIDE OF OF OF OF
GOODLETTE. 
          FRANK MR. YOUNG HAS BROUGHT UP SEVERAL TIMES IN COMMENTS DURING THE COURSE OF THE DAY
ABOUT FINANCING STRATEGIES, INCLUDING BONDING. I, I WILL I BEGIN THIS CONVERSATION ON
REPRIORITIZATION BY SAYING I DON'T I DON'T START WITH IT'S EITHER THIS OR IT'S THAT. 
          I START WITH IT'S BOTH THAT WE, WE CAN AT LEAST WITHIN THE RESILIENCY. 
          THERE CERTAINLY THERE MAY BE OTHER AREAS OF THE CRA BUDGET WHERE WE CAN. 
          REALLOCATE MONEY FOR NON RESILIENCY PURPOSES. 
          BUT I THINK IT'S EXTRAORDINARILY IMPORTANT THAT WE GET THESE RESILIENCY PROJECTS THAT
WE'VE ALREADY BEGUN, CONTINUE TO MOVE THEM FORWARD WHILE ADDING TO IT. 
          WORK IN RIVER PARK EAST. AND YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT I'M GOING TO FIGHT FOR CERTAINLY. 
          AND HOPE THAT WE CAN FIND A FINANCIALLY SUSTAINABLE AND ACCEPTABLE WAY TO DO DO ALL THAT. 
          BECAUSE I THINK IT'S THE, THE, THE BENEFITS FROM A SOCIAL AND FROM AN ECONOMIC STANDPOINT
ARE JUST AS PROFOUND IN THE 10TH STREET CORRIDOR AS THEY ARE OVER IN RIVER PARK EAST. 
          MY OPINION. SO I JUST WANTED TO TO, YOU KNOW,
TO SHARE THOSE, YOU KNOW, MY PERSONAL VIEWS ON THIS AS TO WHERE WE WANT TO GO. 
          AND I THINK, I THINK WE CAN FIND A WAY TO MAKE THIS ALL HAPPEN. 
          AND, AND WE SHOULD AT LEAST TRY VERY HARD TO DO SO. 
          SO THANK YOU. WITH THAT, IT'S BEEN A VERY SUBSTANTIVE MEETING. 
          AND I WAS ABOUT TO SAY A LONG MEETING, BUT NOT THAT LONG. 
          IT WAS IT WAS A VERY GOOD MEETING. AND I, AS ALWAYS,
APPRECIATE THE INPUT OF ALL OF YOU. 
          AND EVERYBODY CONTRIBUTES AND CONTRIBUTES IN A VERY CONSTRUCTIVE WAY. 
          SO THANK YOU. AND WITH THAT, WE STAND ADJOURNED.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.