[13.A) A Resolution Approving a License Agreement Between the City of Naples and Naples Girls Softball for the Use of Cambier Park and Fleischmann Park Facilities to Conduct a Youth Softball League at Cambier Park and Fleischmann Park for a Three-Year Term with Two One-year Extensions; Authorizing the City Manager to Execute the Use Agreement; Providing for Scrivener’s Errors; and Providing an Effective Date. ]

HEARINGS GOING TO REGULAR AGENDA. WE'LL MOVE DOWN TO NEW BUSINESS ITEM 13 A. GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING. MAYOR, COMMUNITY SERVICES DIRECTOR. ITEM HERE. SO THIS ITEM IS A SORRY, MR. MAYOR, BEFORE YOU START, MAYOR, MAY I READ THE RESOLUTION? YES. THANK YOU, MISS MR. MCCONNELL. YES. NO PROBLEM. A RESOLUTION APPROVING A LICENSE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF NAPLES AND NAPLES. GIRLS SOFTBALL FOR THE USE OF CAMBIER PARK AND PARK FACILITIES. TO CONDUCT A YOUTH SOFTBALL LEAGUE AT CAMBRIA PARK AND PARK FOR A THREE YEAR TERM, WITH TWO ONE YEAR EXTENSIONS. AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE LICENSE AGREEMENT, PROVIDING FOR SCRIVENER'S ERRORS, AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. NOW, MR. MAYOR, I WAS GOING TO BEAT MATTHEW TO THAT. BUT SO AGAIN, CHAD MERRITT, COMMUNITY SERVICES

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DIRECTOR, THIS ITEM IS THIS WAS A 25 YEAR AGREEMENT THAT'S COMING TO CLOSE. THIS WAS ESTABLISHED IN 1999. THE YOUTH OUR YOUTH SPORTS. AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT ALL THREE OF THEM.

BUT YOU KNOW, THEY'RE VERY IMPORTANT TO OUR COMMUNITY. THEY'RE IMPORTANT TO THE PARKS.

AND WE'VE FACILITATED THESE FOR MANY, MANY YEARS. THIS AGREEMENT IS UP FOR RENEWAL.

BUT ONE THING THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO DIFFERENTLY IS A LOT CHANGES IN 25 YEARS, INCLUDING THE ORGANIZATIONAL LEADERS FROM BOTH SIDES AS WELL AS TRENDS. THE PARKS CHANGE, FINANCIALS CHANGE, PARTICIPATION CHANGES. SO WE WANT TO GO TO A FIVE YEAR AGREEMENT, WHICH IS PRETTY STANDARD WITH EVERYTHING ELSE WE DO, WHICH WOULD BE ACTUALLY A THREE YEAR AGREEMENT WITH TWO OPTIONS FOR TWO ONE YEAR RENEWALS. AND THAT ALLOWS US TO EVALUATE BOTH OF THE ORGANIZATIONS TO EVALUATE WHERE WE STAND. A COUPLE OF THINGS ON THIS, AND I WANTED TO KIND OF GIVE YOU A FEEL FOR WHAT IT TAKES. AND WHEN YOU OPERATE THESE TYPES OF PROGRAMS, SO THEY USE THIS FIELD OR THESE FIELDS. EXCUSE ME, WE'VE HAD TO SHIFT THEM A LITTLE BIT.

CAMBIER PARK IS THEIR MAIN HOME, AND WE HAVE TO SHIP THEM TO FLEISHMAN PARK ON OCCASIONS, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE HAVE SPECIAL EVENTS, BECAUSE THEY DON'T THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO PLAY OR PRACTICE THERE. SO WE HAVE MADE A SPACE AT FLEISHMAN PARK SO THAT THEY CAN USE THAT WHEN THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO USE CAMBIER PARK IN ADDITION. SO THEY RUN A FALL LEAGUE, WHICH IS FROM SEPTEMBER TO DECEMBER. THEY RUN A SPRING LEAGUE, WHICH IS FEBRUARY TO MAY. THEY USE ABOUT 28 WEEKS OUT OF THE YEAR. WE SPEND ABOUT 52. AND THIS IS A ROUGH ESTIMATE BASED ON WHAT WE COULD COME UP WITH ON MAINTAINING THE FIELDS, THAT'S MOWING THE FIELDS, FERTILIZING THE FIELDS, LINING FIELDS, ALL THAT. WE, THE CITY RECEIVES ABOUT $5,200 IN REVENUE FOR THE SOFTBALL LEAGUE. ABOUT 14% OF THE PARTICIPANTS RESIDE IN THE CITY, AND THAT FLUCTUATES DEPENDING ON, I GUESS, PARTICIPATION. EACH YEAR THE CITY ENTER INTO THIS AGREEMENT IN 99, AS I SAID, AND IT ENDS ACTUALLY ENDED TWO DAYS AGO. ONE OF THE THINGS WHEN THEY ENTERED INTO THE AGREEMENT, THEY ENTERED IN, AND THEY MADE AN ADJUSTMENT IN 2001 WHERE THE CITY FRONTED BASICALLY $155,500 THROUGH RESOLUTION 019364, WHICH IS ATTACHED IN THERE.

THIS WAS FOR THE THE STANDS. THEY INSTALLED THE STANDS, DID A COUPLE OTHER WORK. AND THE AGREEMENT IN THAT RESOLUTION WAS THAT THEY WOULD PAY THAT IN GOOD FAITH. AND WITHIN THE 25 YEARS, THE OUTSTANDING BALANCE RIGHT NOW IS 64,000. ACTUALLY, IT'S A I THINK LISA CAME IN TO CONFIRM THAT BECAUSE THERE WAS A PAYMENT MADE AROUND 63,000 AND SOME CHANGE, AND THE THIS WAS THIS IS LEFT OVER FROM THAT ORIGINAL AGREEMENT. OBVIOUSLY THE GIRLS SOFTBALL ORIGINALLY IT WAS GREATER NAPLES. NOW IT'S NAPLES GIRLS SOFTBALL. THERE'S BEEN SOME LEADERSHIP CHANGES OVER THE YEARS. AND YOU KNOW, SO THAT THAT'S KIND OF HOW A LOT OF THAT HAS STOPPED. I THINK THEY WERE MAKING PAYMENTS PRETTY CONSISTENT RIGHT AT THE START. AND THAT HAS PUT THEM INTO THE SITUATION THEY'RE IN RIGHT NOW. AND I THINK MARTIN I BELIEVE MARTIN'S. YEAH MARTIN'S HERE. SO IF WE NEED HIM TO KIND OF SPEAK ON SOME OF THAT WE CAN. THAT'S NEITHER HERE NOR THERE.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE LOOKED AT, WE DID TAKE THE CSB, CSB AND THE AGREEMENT THAT'S IN FRONT OF YOU IS BASICALLY ALLOWING THEM WITHIN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS TO TRY TO SETTLE THAT, THAT BALANCE OF 63,000 AND SOME CHANGE. BUT ONE THING THAT WE ALSO WANTED TO MAKE A CHANGE ON IS THE FEE STRUCTURE. THE FEE STRUCTURES REMAIN PRETTY MUCH THE SAME FOR A WHILE, SO THAT'S $3 PER PARTICIPANT PER WEEK. SO IF YOU LOOK ON HERE, WE'RE STILL KEEPING THAT BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO MAKE A DRASTIC CHANGE AND COMPROMISE THEIR EXISTENCE, BECAUSE IF WE PRICE IT TOO HIGH, THEN WE COULD POTENTIALLY LOSE OUR OUR LEAGUES. AND THESE LEAGUES ARE WHAT I WOULD CONSIDER TRADITIONAL RECREATION LEAGUES, WHICH MEAN ANYONE CAN COME AND PARTICIPATE. AND THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT IN OUR SOCIETY AND YOUTH SPORTS. SO $3 PER PARTICIPANT PER WEEK FOR THE FIRST THREE YEARS. AND THEN WE WOULD INCREASE THAT

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INCREMENTALLY. YEAR FOUR WE WOULD GO UP AN EXTRA DOLLAR. AND THEN YEAR FIVE WE WOULD GO UP AN EXTRA DOLLAR. AND THAT WOULD BE $4 PER PARTICIPANT PER WEEK ON YEAR FOUR, OR $5 PER PARTICIPANT PER PARTICIPANT PER WEEK ALL YEAR FIVE. WE WOULD ALSO ADD IN THE MAINTENANCE FEE.

THE MAINTENANCE FEE HELPS US WITH MAINTAINING THE FIELD AND I KNOW WE GET WE HAVE A LOT OF TIME AND ENERGY THAT'S SPENT IN BOTH SIDES, BUT WE'VE DONE SOME SOME RENOVATIONS TO THE FIELDS TO BRING IT TO WHAT WE FEEL IS THE STANDARD OF WHAT THE FIELDS SHOULD BE. LASER GRADING. WE WENT IN AND RECUT THE ALL OF THE FIELDS SO THAT THEY THEY'RE STANDARD AND THEY MEET THE REGULATION. WE'VE WENT IN AND MADE REPAIRS TO THE WARNING TRACKS. WE'VE JUST RECENTLY INSTALLED A A WIND SCREEN SO THAT IT HELPS WITH THE BATTER'S VIEW. IF YOU'VE AGAIN, IF YOU PLAY BASEBALL OR PLAYED ANY SPORTS, YOU KNOW HOW IMPORTANT THAT IS. BUT WE'VE DONE SOME THINGS. THE FENCE HAS BEEN REPLACED. WE'VE DONE SOME LIGHTING UPGRADES. SO WE JUST WE FEEL THAT THIS MAINTENANCE FEE WOULD JUST BE A LITTLE BIT THAT WOULD HELP WITH OFFSETTING SOME OF THOSE COSTS. THAT WAS OPTION ONE WAS TO DO THE $3 KEEP WITH THE $3 PER PARTICIPANT PER WEEK, AND THEN THE MAINTENANCE FEE. OPTION TWO WAS IS TO USE THE CURRENT RENTAL RATE OF $35 AN HOUR, AND THE ESTIMATED COST FOR TWO FIELDS, IF THEY UTILIZE TWO FIELDS, WOULD BE AROUND 23,005 90, WHICH THAT'S A LOT. IF YOU LOOK AT THE CHART UP ABOVE, YOU CAN SEE THAT WHAT'S KIND OF PROJECTED. IF YOU REMEMBER WHEN I SAID BACK HERE IT WAS FOR $5,200, IS GENERALLY ABOUT WHAT THEY PAY PER YEAR OR PER SEASON. SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT GOING UP THAT MUCH, WE FEEL THAT THAT WOULD PRICE THEM OUT. AND THAT'S NOT WHAT THE GOAL WAS FOR US. AND BUT THAT IS THE OTHER OPTION IS TO CHARGE THE CURRENT RENTAL RATE COMMUNITY SERVICES ADVISORY BOARD. AGAIN, THEY WANTED TO GO WITH OPTION ONE. THEY FELT THAT THE THE BALANCE SHOULD BE PAID WITHIN THE FIVE YEAR AGREEMENT. AND FOR US SELECTING OPTION ONE, IT MADE MORE SENSE BECAUSE THAT MEANS THE MORE PARTICIPANTS THAT REGISTER, THE MORE THAT THEY PAY. THE MORE PARTICIPANTS THAT ARE ON THE FIELD, THE MORE IT COSTS US TO MAINTAIN THE FIELD. SO THAT ONLY MADE SENSE. AND BOTH PARTIES AGREED THAT THAT WOULD BE A BETTER OPTION FOR THEM. OBVIOUSLY, THIS IS AN OPTION AND A RECOMMENDATION, AND CITY COUNCIL CAN DECIDE IF IF THERE'S A DIFFERENT ROUTE THAT THEY WANT TO GO. LASTLY, WE WOULD WANT TO MAKE AND THIS WILL BE THE CASE WITH ALL THREE OF THESE. WE WANT THEM TO START ON JANUARY 1ST, AND EVERY YEAR WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO RENEW ALL THREE OF THEM AT THE SAME TIME SO THEY CAN STAY CONSISTENT.

OVER THE YEARS, THEY'VE KIND OF ALL MADE THEIR OWN, MORPHED INTO THEIR OWN TYPE OF AGREEMENT. IT WASN'T CONSISTENT, AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT CONSISTENCY, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE'RE MAINTAINING THESE AGREEMENTS WITH OUR ATHLETIC GROUPS, THAT IS REALLY A SUMMARY ON WHERE WE'RE HERE OR WHY WE'RE HERE TODAY. AND ANY QUESTIONS OR ANY COMMENTS WE WELCOME. AND WE DO HAVE THE ORGANIZERS HERE AS WELL. I DO HAVE A MR. KURTZ HERE AS A PUBLIC SPEAKER, BUT I'LL LET COUNCIL ASK QUESTIONS. FIRST OF ALL, I THINK THAT 63,000 THAT'S OUTSTANDING. I THINK WE COULD HAVE A FUNDRAISER TOMORROW AND GET THAT PAID OFF. I, MY MY DAUGHTER PLAYED THERE. THIS IS A COMMUNITY SOFTBALL FIELD AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DO WHATEVER WE POSSIBLY CAN, IN MY OPINION, TO PROTECT THIS OPPORTUNITY FOR SOFTBALL FIELD FOR THE GIRLS. WE HAD SPECIAL EVENTS THAT WERE CAUSING THEM TO HAVE TO GO TO ANOTHER FIELD.

BUT IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING WE HAVE NO LONGER ACCEPT ANY SPECIAL EVENTS ON THAT FIELD.

SO WE JUST HAVE THE ONE CAR'S ON FIFTH, BUT EVEN WHEN IT'S NOT ON THE FIELD, UNDERSTANDING THAT SPECIAL EVENT IN THE PARK STILL DISRUPTS THE THE LEAGUE ITSELF. BECAUSE IF IT'S WE HAVE STREETS BLOCKED OFF, IF THE PARKING IS LIMITED, THEN THEY HAVE TO SHIFT AND MOVE TO ANOTHER FACILITY FOR THAT TIME ON THAT WEEKEND. WELL, THAT I WANT TO BETTER UNDERSTAND HOW MANY TIMES AND WHY A STREET CLOSURE WOULD KEEP THEM FROM BEING ABLE TO USE IT. BUT AND MAYBE WE NEED TO RECONSIDER THE FACT THAT, YOU KNOW, WE ARE ALLOWING IS IT JUST CARS ON

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FIFTH NOW THAT USES THAT SOFTBALL FIELD? THAT'S THE ONLY SPECIAL EVENT LEFT THAT WE'VE MOVED TO OTHERS, AND THEY PAY TO REPAIR THE FIELD. THEY DID OKAY. I THINK. OH, AND THE FEE STRUCTURE, I'M NOT SURE. I, I LOOK TO MY COLLEAGUES TO THAT INCREASE IN PAY, BUT I'LL ASK THE MR. KURTZ HOW THAT WORKS OUT. I HAVE FOR NOW. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. VICE MAYOR. YEAH. THANK YOU CHAD, I APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK THAT YOU AND YOUR TEAM PUT ON THESE ITEMS. I JUST WANT TO MAKE A QUICK COMMENT THAT I'M ONE OF THOSE DADS THAT SPENT YEARS ON A FIVE GALLON BUCKET CATCHING PITCHES AND FAST PITCH. AND BY THE WAY, I WAS COACH OF THE SCREAMERS, ATTENDING UNDER TEAM FOR, WELL, UNTIL THEY REALLY GREW UP AND GOT OUT OF THAT AGE GROUP. AND THERE'S A REASON THEY'RE CALLED THE SCREAMERS. BUT THIS, THIS BALLPARK FOR ME AND AS A CITY COUNCIL PERSON, YOU'RE GOING TO MANY OF US WILL DEAL WITH THIS FOR MANY YEARS, AND I AND THAT'S THE CASE HERE. BUT IT'S A SPECIAL PLACE. IT'S A SPECIAL ASSET FOR OUR COMMUNITY, NOT JUST CAMBIER PARK, BUT THESE OTHER AGENDA ITEMS UNDER DIFFERENT ITEMS THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING TODAY. AND I'M JUST A BIG ADVOCATE OF MAINTAINING THEM. I KNOW THAT THERE WAS AN EXPENSE AS A PARENT TO HAVE MY DAUGHTER JOIN AND MY SON JOIN DIFFERENT LEAGUES, RIGHT? BECAUSE THERE'S YOU CAN SEE THESE NUMBERS HERE, THERE'S SOME EXPENSES INVOLVED, AND THAT'S WHAT IT TAKES. IF YOU'RE GOING TO RUN, AS CHAD SAID, YOU RUN A QUALITY. VENUE AND YOU KEEP IT TO SPECS AND REGULATION AND SOME THAT PEOPLE CAN BE PROUD OF AND, AND HAVE MEMORIES OF. SO AND I KNOW MANY OF US, WE HEARKEN BACK TO WHAT WE DID AS KIDS, BUT IT'S JUST A GREAT I HOPE EVERYTHING GOES ON THIS ITEM ACCORDING TO WHAT WE NEED TO HAVE DONE, BUT I SUPPORT IT.

AND. AND AS THE MAYOR SAID, I THINK THE MONEY CAN BE RAISED THROUGH DIFFERENT MEANS, BUT JUST GREAT WORK AND I APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK THE CITY STAFF DOES ON MAINTAINING ALL OF THESE FACILITIES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER CHRISTMAN. THANK YOU MAYOR. UNLIKE THE VICE MAYOR, I NEVER COACHED GIRLS SOFTBALL. IT WAS ONE OF THE FEW KIDS SPORTS I DIDN'T COACH, AND ALL OF MY COACHING WAS DONE TOTALLY WITHOUT ANY QUALIFICATION OR ABILITY. EXACTLY. SO I COULD HAVE COACHED GIRLS SOFTBALL TO. BUT I'M GENERALLY I'M VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THIS AS WELL. I KNOW PEOPLE, BOTH KIDS AND ADULTS, WHO HAVE PLAYED NOT JUST IN GIRLS SOFTBALL, BUT BOYS AND MEN'S SOFTBALL AT OUR PARKS. AND I THINK THE FACT THAT WE HAVE THESE FACILITIES IN OUR CITY, AND THEY'RE USED AND PRIZED BY SO MANY IN OUR COMMUNITY, IS JUST A WONDERFUL PART OF WHAT MAKES NAPLES, NAPLES, AND THE FACT THAT PEOPLE FROM OUTSIDE THE CITY ARE A BIG PART OF THE USERS OF THIS DOESN'T BOTHER ME ONE BIT. YOU KNOW, IT'S A THERE'S A LOT OF SEAMLESSNESS BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE COUNTY, AND IT'S GOOD FOR FOR EVERYBODY. AND I THINK THIS HAS LONG BEEN A VERY POSITIVE PART OF NAPLES. I JUST HAD A COUPLE QUESTIONS. THE FIRST IS, AM I AM I TO BELIEVE THEN THAT GIVEN THE ORIGINAL CONTRACT 25 YEARS AGO OR AGREEMENT 25 YEARS AGO, FOR 155,000 ROUGHLY, AND NOW IT'S AT 63,000 THAT APPROXIMATELY 90,000 HAS BEEN RAISED AND PAID BACK TO THE CITY BY THE ORGANIZERS. IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. 90,000 OVER 25 YEARS? THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. SO MY CONCERN IS I APPRECIATE THE MAYOR'S COMMENTS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WE COULD DO A FUNDRAISER TOMORROW. THEY COULD DO A FUNDRAISER TOMORROW AND RAISE THIS MONEY. I DON'T KNOW, I WOULD HOPE AND SUPPORT THAT THAT IF THAT COULD OCCUR. BUT THEY'VE RAISED 90,000 OVER 25 YEARS. THAT'S A LITTLE OVER 3000 A YEAR. I'M CONCERNED

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ABOUT HAVING A PROVISION IN THE NEW AGREEMENT THAT THEY WILL SOMEHOW COME UP WITH 63,000 IN 5 YEARS, WHICH WOULD BE IF YOU JUST DO THE MATH, WHAT ABOUT $14,000 A YEAR WHEN THEY'VE BEEN RAISING ABOUT 3000 AND CHANGE A YEAR? I DON'T WANT TO PUT SOMETHING INTO THE NEW AGREEMENT. THAT IS UNREALISTIC. AND SO WHOEVER'S SITTING HERE ON COUNCIL FIVE YEARS FROM NOW, YOU KNOW, HAS WELL, YOU DIDN'T DO WHAT YOU SAID YOU WERE GOING TO DO. SEE WHAT I'M SAYING? AND WE'RE AND WE'RE IN EFFECT JUST KICKING THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD. SO I JUST WANT TO RAISE THAT AS A CONCERN AND, AND, AND MAKE SURE WE'RE IF WE INCLUDE THAT WE'RE GOING INTO IT BOTH ON OUR SIDE AND THE ORGANIZER SIDE WITH EYES WIDE OPEN. YEAH. AND THE REASON WE WE CARRIED THAT NUMBER IN THERE WITH CONTRACT WAS BECAUSE THAT WAS AN ORIGINAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY AND THAT ORGANIZATION, AND WE DIDN'T FEEL WE HAD THE RIGHT TO TO TAKE THAT AND SAY, OKAY, WELL, HERE'S THE NEW AGREEMENTS. FIVE YEARS, IF YOU PAY 50% OF IT, THEN THAT'S GOOD. WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE IT WAS IN HERE AND HAD THIS CONVERSATION, BECAUSE I THINK THAT WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE, TOO, THAT YOU UNDERSTOOD WHAT THE BALANCE IS. AND AGAIN, I MADE THE STATEMENT, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF CHANGES WITH THE ORGANIZATION, AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT KIND OF STALLED SOME OF THAT, BECAUSE THEN YOU'RE TRYING TO GET YOUR FEET BACK UP. AND I THINK THAT THAT SLOWED THEM UP A LITTLE BIT. THERE'S SOME SOME NEW PLAYERS, NO PUN INTENDED, THAT ARE COMING BACK INTO THE MIX OF THIS. AND I THINK THAT COULD BE VERY BENEFICIAL FOR THE ORGANIZATION ITSELF AS WELL. THAT'S GOOD. AGAIN, I THINK IT'S. VERY COMMENDABLE THAT THEY'VE YOU KNOW, THESE ARE VOLUNTEER ORGANIZATIONS, COMPLETELY VOLUNTEER ORGANIZATION, AND THAT THEY'VE RAISED $90,000 IN 25 YEARS. TO ME, THAT'S IMPRESSIVE FOR JUST A VOLUNTEER ORGANIZATION. AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S REASONABLE TO EXPECT THEM TO RAISE OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS. BUT THAT'S REALLY THE QUESTION I'M PUTTING ON THE TABLE. AND I ALSO WANT TO ADD RECENTLY THEY DID RECEIVE A DONATION FROM SOMEONE TO REPLACE THE SCOREBOARD. THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS THE RESPONSIBILITY OF OF THEM AS WELL. SO THERE THAT'S ABOUT $20,000 THAT WAS DONATED SPECIFICALLY FOR THE SCOREBOARD. SO THEY'RE GETTING READY. WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT REPLACING THAT AND WORKING WITH THEM ON THAT. SO THERE WAS AN ADDITIONAL 20,000 THAT WAS RAISED. BUT THERE'S ONGOING EXPENSES THAT THEY HAVE THAT THEY HAVE TO DO. YOU GOT UNIFORMS AND YOU GOT ALL SORTS OF THINGS. EQUIPMENT. LET'S NOT TALK ABOUT OR FORGET THE EQUIPMENT. THE EQUIPMENT IS VERY EXPENSIVE. A BAT THAT WHEN I WAS A KID WAS IF YOU BOUGHT $100 BAT, YOU WERE LIKE THE CREAM OF THE CROP. BUT NOW, I MEAN, THEY'RE FIVE, $600, SO IT'S IT'S A IT'S EXPENSIVE. YEAH. SO I DID WANT TO THROW THAT IN AS WELL BECAUSE ANYWAY THAT'S, THAT'S MY, MY FIRST QUESTION. AND I JUST WOULD LIKE TO SEE US HAVE WHATEVER WE SAY ABOUT THAT IN WHATEVER WE AGREE TO HAVE IT BE SOMETHING THAT IS.

CHEAP THAT WE THINK IS ACHIEVABLE. AND THEN NUMBER TWO, MY OTHER QUESTION. I HADN'T EVEN THOUGHT ABOUT THIS BEFORE, BUT YOU BROUGHT IT UP. AND WHEN THE MAYOR WAS MAKING HER COMMENTS, YOU KNOW, IT SAYS HERE IN THE AGENDA MEMORANDUM, THEIR SEASON IS IS SEPTEMBER TO DECEMBER AND THEN FEBRUARY TO MAY. WELL, FEBRUARY TO MAY INCLUDES SOME OF THE BUSIEST MONTHS IN OUR SPECIAL EVENTS SEASON. RIGHT. SO I'M JUST IT BOTHERED ME TO HEAR YOU SAY THAT WHEN THERE ARE EVENTS IN CAMBIER PARK THAT THAT AND RELATED THINGS LIKE STREET CLOSURES THAT THAT COULD HAVE THE IMPACT OF OF PREVENTING THEM FROM HAVING THEIR GAMES IN THERE. AND, AND I GUESS BECAUSE OF THE LACK OF AVAILABLE PARKING OR I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE REASONS ARE, BUT IF WE'RE IF THAT'S OCCURRING AND THERE ARE MORE THAN JUST A COUPLE OF TIMES WHERE THAT'S IMPACTING THE SITUATION, THAT'S SOMETHING WE SHOULD. FIGURE OUT HOW TO FIX. BECAUSE WHAT'S THE POINT OF THEM HAVING AN AGREEMENT WITH US THAT SAYS THEY'RE GOING TO PAY FOR AND BE ABLE TO UTILIZE THIS FIELD, AND THEN THEY CAN'T DO IT, RIGHT? SO AND AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW THE EXTENT OF HOW THAT WOULD IMPACT THEM AT CAMBIER, BUT. WE SHOULD ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT THAT WE CAN'T FULFILL FROM OUR END. THANK YOU. THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. COUNCIL MEMBER CHRISTMAN, ON THOSE NOTES, DID YOU FIND OUT THE HISTORY OF

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THAT PAYMENT FOR THE STADIUM BLEACHERS? THE HISTORY? I'VE GOT, THE RESOLUTIONS. I'VE ONLY WENT BACK AS FAR AS THE MINUTES OF HOW THAT CAME ABOUT, BECAUSE I DIDN'T LOOK AT IT, BUT I DIDN'T, BECAUSE IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT, I MEAN, THE CITY COULD HAVE PAID FOR IT BECAUSE IT'S PART OF OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN. BUT THE RESIDENTS AND THE PLAYERS AND THE LEADERSHIP AT THAT TIME SAID, WE WANT NEW BLEACHERS. WE'LL TAKE IT ON. AND I THINK, AS YOU CORRECTLY STATED, THAT, YOU KNOW, LEADERSHIP CHANGES. DID THEY EVEN KNOW THEY HAD THIS OUTSTANDING DEBT? WE'VE HAD LEADERSHIP CHANGES. THEY'VE HAD LEADERSHIP CHANGES. YOU KNOW, IS HAS SOMEONE KEPT TRACK OF THAT, ENCOURAGED ANY FUNDRAISERS IN THE PARK OR, YOU KNOW, HAVE WE DONE ANYTHING TO LET THE NEW LEADERSHIP KNOW THAT THERE'S AN OUTSTANDING BALANCE? SO I THINK THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO LOOK INTO. AND I ARE AWARE OF IT. THEY ARE AWARE AND THEY DO THEIR FUNDRAISING BECAUSE THAT WAS 33 YEARS AGO WHEN THOSE BLEACHERS HAPPENED. I MEAN, I WAS PART OF THAT GROUP SAYING, YES, WE'LL PAY FOR IT. BUT I FORGOT ABOUT THAT DEBT. I MEAN, NO ONE SAID SENT ME AN EMAIL AND SAID, YOU KNOW, HEY, HERE'S YOUR $100 EVERY YEAR. YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T ASK FOR IT EVERY YEAR. SO I THINK THAT'S A VERY GOOD POINT. AND THEN THE NUMBER OF EVENTS, I THINK IT'S AN EXCELLENT POINT THAT WE KNOW HOW MANY EVENTS ARE CONFLICTING TO WHERE THEY CAN'T BE IN THE PARK, AND WE'RE TELLING THEM TO GO SOMEPLACE ELSE. I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE HAVE TO ANALYZE. YEAH. YES. MR. MAYOR ONE, JUST FROM A FINANCIAL PERSPECTIVE, I DO WANT YOU TO KNOW THE CITY CONTINUED TO SEND NORMAL BILLS ON OUTSTANDING BALANCE, AS THEY ALWAYS WOULD. SO I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT THE CITY WOULD DO TO THAT PART. BUT TO YOUR OTHER POINT, I AGREE WHOLEHEARTEDLY. AND QUANTIFYING THE NUMBER OF TIMES THEY HAVE TO MOVE BECAUSE OF SPECIAL EVENTS GOES TO THE BROADER CAMBIER PARK. OVERALL SPECIAL EVENTS, QUANTITY, SIZE, ALL OF THOSE THINGS. DISCUSSION. AND SO BY THE TIME WE DO RECONVENE FOR THAT, I WOULD WE SHOULD BE PROVIDING YOU WITH THE NUMBER OF INSTANCES WHEN WE'VE HAD TO MOVE THEM. SO YOU'RE AWARE. SO WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT'S IN THAT PACKAGE. AND SO I HAVE THAT NUMBER ACTUALLY THEY JUST PROVIDED 37 TIMES IS WHAT ONE HOW MANY TIMES THEY WILL HAVE TO MOVE BECAUSE OF SPECIAL EVENTS THIS YEAR. BY THEIR CHOICE OR BECAUSE WE TELL THEM WE'RE HAVING A SPECIAL EVENT AND THEY CAN'T HOLD THEIR SOFTBALL GAME WHEN WHEN THEY HAVE A SPECIAL EVENT. IT IS THAT LARGE OF A DISRUPTION IN THE PARK THAT THEY HAVE LITERALLY NO. IF WE LET THEM HAVE THE GAME AND THEY SHOW UP AND THERE'S 6000 PEOPLE IN THE PARK, THERE'S NO PARKING. SO NOW YOU GOT PARENTS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET THE KIDS TO THE SOFTBALL FIELD. SO WE SHIFTED, WHICH IS WHAT WE DID WITH FLEISHMAN PARK WHEN WE WENT OVER. AND WE PREPARED A FIELD SO THAT THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN. AND THAT WAS A CHALLENGE FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO TO CONTINUE TO TRY TO HAVE A LEAGUE. WHILE THERE WAS SPECIAL EVENT AFTER SPECIAL EVENT AFTER SPECIAL EVENT, AND IT WAS HAPPENING AGAIN 37 TIMES IS WHAT THEY'RE SCHEDULED TO MOVE AND WE WORK WITH THEM AND IT'S, HEY, DO YOU WANT TO MOVE OVER HERE ON THIS DAY? OR HOW DO YOU WANT TO DO THIS? AND SO THAT'S A DISCUSSION WE NEED TO HAVE ON THE SPECIAL EVENTS PIECE. BUT AS I RECALL I'D GO TO THE GAME.

THERE WAS AN ART SHOW. WE WALKED THROUGH THE ART SHOW. WE'D GO HAVE LUNCH AT REGINA'S AND OR ICE CREAM AT REGINA'S. SO USUALLY THEY WOULD KIND OF BLEND TOGETHER, NOT CAUSE US TO NOT ENJOY A SPECIAL EVENT WHILE THERE WAS A GAME. BUT THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER, COUNCIL MEMBER.

BARTON. THANK YOU. YEAH. IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE. RECOGNIZE THE BALANCE THAT'S OWED AND WE GET THEM BACK ON TRACK FOR PAYMENTS. BUT EQUALLY AS IMPORTANT, MAYBE EVEN MORE IMPORTANT IS THAT WE MAINTAIN WE FIGURE OUT A STRUCTURE SO THAT WE CAN KEEP THE LEAGUE OPERATIONAL, WHICH IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU GUYS ARE MAKING THE EFFORT TO DO SO. AND IT SOUNDS LIKE PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I'M IF I'M MISTAKEN ON ANY OF THESE STATEMENTS. SOUNDS LIKE YOU'VE YOU'VE BEEN IN COMMUNICATION WITH THE NEW LEAGUE LEADERSHIP. AND OPTION ONE SEEMS TO BE AN AGREEABLE. AVENUE PATH FOR THAT SOLUTION. WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST IS, AND I AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN

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CHRISTIAN WHOLEHEARTEDLY, FROM THE STANDPOINT THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE AN AGREEMENT THAT THEY CAN USE THE FIELD AND WE NEED TO UPHOLD OUR END OF THE AGREEMENT. AND IF IT'S GOING TO BE DISRUPTED BY A SPECIAL EVENT, PERHAPS WE NEED TO HAVE A LINE ITEM FEE ON ANY SPECIAL EVENT THAT GOES TO THE SOFTBALL LEAGUE. WHEN THE SOFTBALL LEAGUE CAN'T PLAY ON THE FIELD THAT WE'VE TOLD THEM THEY CAN PLAY ON. SO WE SAY TO A SPECIAL EVENT, YEAH, YOU CAN HAVE IT ON THIS DAY. YOU'RE BY THE WAY, YOU'RE YOU'RE DISRUPTING OUR SOFTBALL LEAGUE. IT'S GOING TO COST YOU AN EXTRA 500 BUCKS, WHATEVER THAT WHATEVER THAT NUMBER MIGHT BE. BUT LET'S, LET'S, LET'S START TO, TO COMPENSATE THE LEAGUE AND ACTUALLY HELP THEM PERHAPS WHITTLE DOWN THAT, THAT DEBT WITH PEOPLE THAT WANT TO HAVE THOSE SPECIAL EVENTS AND THEY'RE GOING TO INTERRUPT A LONG STANDING SOFTBALL LEAGUE UNLESS LET'S TELL THEM THEY HAVE TO PAY FOR THAT. I DON'T SEE WHY THEY SHOULD HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT. OR THEY CAN MOVE TODAY. OKAY. WE DON'T WANT TO PAY THE $500 THIS WILL HAVE ON A DIFFERENT DAY. WE'RE NOT GOING TO DISRUPT THE SOFTBALL LEAGUE, WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE. BUT IT SEEMS LIKE THAT WE CAN HELP. WE CAN HELP THE LEAGUE AND ALSO UPHOLD OUR END ON ON AN AGREEMENT THAT WE'VE MADE WITH THE LEAGUE BY HELPING THEM PAY DOWN THIS DEBT, BY CHARGING A LINE ITEM FEE FOR ANYBODY THAT WANTS TO DISRUPT THEIR LEAGUE. JUST FOOD FOR THOUGHT, BUT I YEAH, I WHOLEHEARTEDLY SUPPORT THIS. I WOULD ALSO GUESS THAT IT WAS ONLY 3000 ANNUALLY FOR THE LAST 25 YEARS, BECAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE MAYBE THAT SOME YEARS WE'RE NOT PAID ANYTHING BECAUSE LEAGUE GOT THEY WERE DISRUPTED A LITTLE BIT FROM LEADERSHIP AND EVERYTHING ELSE. SO AGAIN, IT'S PROBABLY SKEWS THE NUMBERS A LITTLE BIT. YOU KNOW, THEY PROBABLY, YOU KNOW, 3000 IS PROBABLY ON THE LOW END OF WHAT THEY'RE CAPABLE OF DOING. AND AGAIN IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU GUYS HAVE HAD THESE DISCUSSIONS AND YOU'VE GOT IT FIGURED OUT FROM AN OPTION ONE STANDPOINT. BUT AGAIN IT'S IMPORTANT THAT YOU KNOW THAT TO GET PAID. OH, AND ALSO I WOULD ADD THAT SINCE THE MAYOR HAS HAS TAKEN RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE DEBT, WHEN SHE AGREED UPON IT 25 YEARS AGO TO MAKE SURE THEY'VE GOT HER EMAIL ADDRESS WHEN THEY START FUNDRAISING. EXACTLY. SO YEAH, I'M IN STRONG SUPPORT OF THIS. WELL, IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU GUYS ARE WELL ON YOUR WAY TO FIGURING OUT HOW TO GET IT DONE. AND AGAIN, JUST A COUPLE OF IDEAS TO HELP HELP OFFSET SOME OF THAT COST AND DISRUPTION. THANK YOU. I HAVE PETRANOFF. AND THEN YES, IN TERMS OF THE SOFTBALL LEAGUES, ARE THEY FULLY LIQUIDATED COSTS OR ARE THERE SOME COSTS THAT ARE INHERENT IN THIS FIELD AND IN THIS LEAGUE THAT ARE BORNE BY CITY TAXPAYERS? YEAH. WELL, ALL OF YOUR PARKS AND RECREATION FACILITIES, THEY'RE NOT USED 100% OF THE TIME. AND THEY'RE NOT A BREAK EVEN SCENARIO. THERE'S A COST, A REASONABLE COST RECOVERY ASPECT THAT WAS IN THE PREEXISTING CONTRACTS AND IS IN THIS ONE, I THINK, TO CHAD'S POINT, IS THE OBLIGATION WAS ACCEPTED BY COUNCIL. SO THEY'RE TRYING TO HONOR THAT, MAKE YOU AWARE OF IT. AND AND PUT IT IN POSITION, AS DO YOU WANT TO CONTINUE TO HOLD THAT RESOLUTION TO ITS PURPOSE EXCEPT, YOU KNOW, MAKE REQUIRING PAYMENT AND THEN ALSO SETTING THE STAGE FOR THERE TO BE SOME REASONABLE INCREASES, GIVEN THAT IT WAS THE SAME FEE FOR A PERIOD OF TIME. SO TO SHORT ANSWER IS TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION. THEY'RE NOT KNOW. EVERY PARK FACILITY HAS TAXPAYER DOLLARS CONTRIBUTING IN ONE MANNER OR ANOTHER. THIS IS JUST OFFSETTING A PORTION OF THE COST. OKAY, THEN. AND GIVEN AND GIVEN THAT, YOU KNOW, WOULD IT BE THE JUST AN IDEA SINCE WHAT IS IT? DID YOU SAY 14% OF THE OF THE KIDS THAT ARE PARTICIPATING LIVE IN THE CITY? THAT NOT TO DOUBLE DIP ON RESIDENTIAL TAXES, COULD WE DO SOME VALUE PROPOSITION BEING A CITY RESIDENT AND MAKE THEIR FEE LESS OR NOT HAVE A FEE FOR KIDS THAT LIVE IN THE CITY? I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WOULD, YOU KNOW, BE A SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE, BUT I THINK THAT'S TALKING ABOUT WHAT THEIR FEE STRUCTURE IS AS OPPOSED TO WHAT THEY WE'RE CHARGING THEM. SO IF YOU I GUESS IF YOU INTRODUCE THAT, THEY WOULD HAVE TO DETERMINE THE EASE TO WHICH THEY WOULD BE ADJUSTING THEIR, THEIR PREMIUMS OR NOT. OUR, OUR STAFF COULDN'T SPEAK TO HOW THEIR CHARGE FOR THE INDIVIDUAL REGISTRATION AND HOW THE MONEY COMES BACK IN. SO THAT'S THE ONLY THING I WOULD SAY. THANK YOU. YEAH. YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, THAT I JUST AM TRYING TO FIGURE OUT A WAY NOT TO DOUBLE DIP AND TO CREATE A VALUE PROPOSITION FOR PEOPLE THAT ACTUALLY LIVE IN THE CITY THAT ARE SUBSIDIZING THESE PARKS ON A REGULAR BASIS. THE OTHER PIECE THAT I CAN'T HELP BUT THINK IS WE NEED TO THINK THROUGH IF IF WE HAVE SPECIAL EVENTS, BOOTING OUT THE SOFTBALL LEAGUES, I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ON WHAT OUR FUNNEL IS, ON PRIORITIES, ON WHAT WE WANT TO HAVE, ON USING OUR PARKS, BECAUSE THAT IS, AND WE NEED TO

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BE MERCILESS ABOUT IT. AND EVERYONE IS WORTHY AND EVERYONE HAS STRONG ARGUMENTS FOR IT.

BUT I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE THOSE HARD DISCUSSIONS BECAUSE WHAT WAS IT, 37 TIMES? THAT'S A LOT. AND, YOU KNOW, I CAN'T HELP BUT THINK, WELL, IS THERE ANOTHER ALTERNATIVE LOCATION LIKE COULD, COULD THEY BE PERMANENTLY AT FLEISHMAN OR IS THAT JUST NOT A POSSIBILITY? SO IT'S TOUGH BECAUSE WE HAVE A BASEBALL LEAGUE THERE. NOW AS I SAID WE'VE PREPARED ONE OF THE FIELDS. SO IF WE IN THE CASE WE HAVE TO MOVE THEM THAT THEY HAVE A PLACE THAT THEY CAN GO, BECAUSE WHAT WE DIDN'T WANT TO HAVE IS, OKAY, YOU GOT TO MOVE, BUT OR YOU CAN'T PLAY THIS WEEKEND BECAUSE OF THE SPECIAL EVENT, BUT WE DON'T HAVE ANYWHERE FOR YOU TO GO. SO WE'VE MADE THAT OPPORTUNITY AND THEY'VE UTILIZED THAT. BUT AGAIN, I'M GOD HAS BEEN HERE FOR FOUR YEARS. THAT FIELD HAS A LOT MORE HISTORY THAN WHAT WHAT I DO HERE. SO I THINK THERE'S A BENEFIT TO HAVING THE FIELD HERE. AND THAT'S KIND OF BEEN MY STANCE SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE IS IF WE GOT A FIELD, WE USE IT AS A FIELD. IF WE WANT A SPECIAL EVENT VENUE WE USE, THEN WE CREATE A SPECIAL EVENT VENUE. BUT ANYTIME THAT YOU MIX THE TWO SOME, SOMEBODY'S GOING TO BE IMPACTED. AND UNFORTUNATELY THE THE LEAGUE IS THE ONE THAT SEEMS TO BE GETTING IMPACTED BY THAT. AND MY SUGGESTION IS THAT WE THAT WE RELOOK AT WHERE OUR FIELDS ARE AND SEE IF, YOU KNOW, WE YOU MADE A TEMPORARY ACCOMMODATION. CAN THAT BE A PERMANENT ACCOMMODATION. SO WE'RE NOT HAVING THESE FOLKS SCATTER 37 TIMES TO HAVE A AND GET IT ALL OUT TO THE PARENTS THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE AT FLEISHMAN AND NOT AT CAMBIER.

YEAH. AND IT IS IT IS SEMI PERMANENT. BUT THEY ALSO WE LOOK AT IT AS ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO EXPAND. BECAUSE RIGHT NOW YOU'VE GOT THEY HAVE NO WAY TO EXPAND ON WITH ONE FIELD. SO IF THEY GROW AND YOU'VE GOT TEAMS THAT ARE PRACTICING AND AND YOU HAVE TO HAVE USE OF MULTIPLE FIELDS, THEN AT LEAST WE HAVE THAT AS AN OPTION. BUT AGAIN WE CAN'T GO TOO MUCH BECAUSE THEN WE START PUSHING THE LITTLE LEAGUE BASEBALL OUT AS WELL. SO THERE'S THERE'S KIND OF A BALANCE THAT WE HAVE TO GO. AND OUR TEAM HAS BEEN EXTREMELY WELL WITH SCHEDULING, BUT WE'RE TAKING IT TO THE MAX THAT WE CAN WITH THAT FIELD THAT WE CAN'T REALLY IF WE PUT THEM PERMANENTLY OVER THERE AND NOT IN CAMBIER PARK, WE'RE GOING TO NEGATIVELY IMPACT THE OTHER LEAGUES AT FLEISHMAN PARK. OKAY. THEN I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, I WOULD LIKE TO GET CONSENSUS THAT WE HAVE A MEETING ABOUT WHAT OUR PRIORITIES ARE OR RECOMMENDATION ON WHAT WHAT OUR PRIORITIES ARE ON ALL OF THESE EVENTS IN CAMBIER AND MAYBE EVEN AT FLEISHMAN, AND HOW WE WOULD ADDRESS THAT. OF THE 37 GAMES THAT ARE BEING PUSHED, HOW MANY? WHAT IS THE DENOMINATOR? HOW MANY TOTAL GAMES ARE THERE? AND YOU'RE GONNA MAKE ME COUNT? I'D HAVE TO LOOK IT UP. IT'S A I MEAN, THERE'S A LOT OF GAMES THEY PLAY 28 WEEKS AND SO THAT'S ARE THEY PLAY TO HOLD THEIR LEAGUE 28 WEEKS. SO IT'S I MEAN IT'S PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL. I'D HAVE TO COUNT IT. OKAY. I'M JUST CURIOUS ON THE ON THE PERCENTAGE OF TIME I GOT DAVID MICHAEL I'LL LET HIM INTRODUCE.

SO DAVID MICHAEL PARKS MANAGER I JUST GOT THE SCHEDULE IN FRONT OF US. IT'S ACTUALLY ONLY SIX WEEKENDS WHERE WE DON'T ALLOW NAPLES GIRLS SOFTBALL TO USE CAMBIER PARK THIS COMING SEASON, SO IT'S ONLY SIX WEEKENDS THE REST OF THE TIME, LIKE THE MAYOR SAID, WE DO HAVE OTHER SPECIAL EVENTS, BUT WE STILL DO ALLOW THEM TO USE IT SO THEY COULD HAVE THE GAME, THEN GO TO THE SPECIAL EVENT, GO TO A SMALLER ART SHOW. IT'S JUST SIX WEEKENDS WHERE WE HAVE THE LARGE SCALE EVENTS THAT WE DON'T LET THEM ACTUALLY USE THAT FACILITY. AND THEN, LIKE CHAD SAID, WE DO ALLOW THEM ON THAT SATURDAYS, USUALLY WHEN THEY HAVE THEIR GAMES TO GO TO FLEISCHMANN PARK, WE DID SKIN THE FIELD. WE TRY TO MAKE IT AS BEST WE CAN, ACCOMMODATING FOR THEM AT FLEISCHMANN PARK SO THEY CAN WHEN THEY CAN'T USE CAMBIER PARK, WE DO ACCOMMODATE AND ALLOW THEM TO USE FLEISCHMANN PARK IN THOSE TIMES OF NEEDS. OKAY, SIX SEEMS A LOT MORE REASONABLE. AND SOME OF THOSE DATES THAT CHAD MENTIONED, THOSE WERE JUST WHEN OTHER SPECIAL EVENTS ARE GOING ON IN THE PARK. OKAY. AND THIS IS WE'VE REALLY TRIED TO, LIKE CHAD SAID, MAKE IT A SOFTBALL FIELD AND SEPARATE SPECIAL EVENTS. SO THIS IS THE BEST THAT WE HAVE. IN THE PAST IT HAS BEEN WAY WORSE. BUT THIS COMING SEASON, FOR THE SPRING, WE'VE REALLY TRIED TO LIMIT IT DOWN AND THE REALLY THE ONLY TIME THEY CAN'T USE IT DURING THE WEEK IS WHEN WE HAVE CARS ON FIFTH ON THE FIELD, SO THE REST OF THE TIME THEY CAN USE IT ALL DURING THE WEEK. OKAY, SO IF I COULD JUST TO CLARIFY. SO ONE SECOND I'M JUST ON THIS, IF I COULD EXCUSE ME, COUNCILWOMAN PETRA, I JUST CLARIFYING QUESTION. SO SIX OUT OF 28 WEEKENDS, THERE'S A PROBLEM. THAT'S CORRECT. AND CAN BEER COULD NOT BE USED.

THAT'S CORRECTLY. OKAY, OKAY. I JUST WANT TO BE SURE I UNDERSTOOD. OKAY. THANK YOU.

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AND MY FINAL COMMENT IS I'D LIKE COUNCIL MEMBER BARTON'S IDEA ON RAISING, YOU KNOW, HAVING A FEE IN THERE SINCE THEY IF OUR FIRST COMMITMENT AND OUR FIRST PRIORITY IS GOING TO BE THE SOFTBALL FIELDS AND NOT THE SPECIAL EVENTS THAT THEY PAY, PAY A PENALTY THAT GOES INTO THE SOFTBALL LEAGUE AND HELPS THEM RAISE SOME MONEY TO LIQUIDATE THAT EXPENSE.

ANOTHER BRILLIANT IDEA. I WOULD JUST I THINK IF YOU I'M SORRY. I THINK THAT'S A SLIPPERY SLOPE.

YOU KNOW, LOOK AND I'M GOING TO JOIN A COUPLE CONVERSATIONS. THE MAYOR SAID IF YOU MAKE AN OBLIGATION, YOU HAVE TO PAY FOR IT. YOU KNOW, THIS IS A PARK FACILITY. IF YOU DECIDED YOU WANTED TO ASSIST THEM WITH OPERATIONS OR WHATEVER, THEN MAKE THAT DECISION. DON'T INCREASE IT TO $4 OR DON'T INCREASE IT TO $5. I MEAN, THINK ABOUT WHAT WE DID. WE HAD PEOPLE THAT SAID WE WANT TO RAISE MONEY FOR THE DOG PARK. THE DOG PARK GETS PAID FOR, WE HAVE AN OPERATIONAL COST AND WE JUST SAY, NO, IT'S WORTH IT FOR US. IT'S OPERATIONS WITHIN OUR FACILITY. SO ONE COUNCIL OBLIGATED AND SAID PUT A FEE IN IF IT DOESN'T PAY FOR ITSELF.

IN THE SAME TOKEN, YOU HAVE THE WHEREWITHAL TO DO WHATEVER YOU WANT IN YOUR FINANCIAL ABILITY, AND IT'S ALREADY SUBSIDIZED BY TAXPAYERS. BUT TO TURN AROUND AND SAY, I WANT TO CHARGE A FEE FOR THIS, TO OFFSET THAT, I JUST I WE MAKE A DECISION ON THE QUANTITY AND SIZE OF EVENTS.

IF IT PREVENTS, IT PREVENTS OUR OWN ADMINISTRATIVE CONFLICT OF CONFLICTING CONTRACT OBLIGATIONS. THEN WE EITHER NEED TO ALTER ONE OR THE OTHER OR ABSORB THOSE COSTS WITHIN OUR OPERATIONS. THAT'S THE ONLY THING THAT I WOULD SAY, BECAUSE IT'S A SLIPPERY SLOPE. WHEN YOU START TO DO THAT. THAT'S I WOULD JUST CAUTION THAT. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND COUNCIL MEMBER PETRANOFF, I THINK YOU MADE A REQUEST THAT WE LOOK AT OUR PRIORITIES, AND I THINK WE ARE DOING THAT AND OUR UP AND COMING SPECIAL EVENTS DISCUSSION. IS IT ABOUT THIS OR BECAUSE I HAVE AND THEN OKAY THANK YOU. COUNCIL ARE YOU COMPLETE COMPLETE. THANK YOU THANK YOU. YEAH I SUPPORT 100% WHAT COUNCILWOMAN PETRANOFF IS SAYING. YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO ESTABLISH OUR PRIORITIES HERE. WE'VE TALKED A LOT ABOUT WHAT THESE PARKS ARE FOR. I THINK WE'VE CALLED INTO QUESTION MANY TIMES EXACTLY WHETHER OR NOT SPECIAL EVENTS IS WHAT WOULD WE WANT TO SUPPORT IN OUR PARKS, OR DO WE WANT TO SUPPORT THE MEMORIES THAT YOU ALL HAVE TALKED ABOUT TODAY? AND LOOKING AT THOSE GREAT KIDS OUT THERE, YOU KNOW, 20, 30 YEARS FROM NOW, THEY'RE GOING TO BE HAVING THE SAME CONVERSATION IF WE GIVE THEM THE OPPORTUNITY. SO I THINK THAT'S I THINK THERE'S A BIGGER CONVERSATION HERE HAVING TO DO WITH SPECIAL EVENTS.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU. KRAMER. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. YOU GUYS LOOK GREAT. YEAH. SO SORRY YOU HAD TO SIT HERE SO LONG. THE. I HAVE A QUESTION. I DON'T KNOW IF IT WOULD BE FOR CHAD OR NAPLES. SOFTBALL. WE'RE IMPROVEMENTS MADE. DID DID THE LEAGUE THROUGH THE YEARS MAKE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE FIELD THAT WEREN'T PART OF AN AGREEMENT THAT THEY DID ON THEIR OWN, BUT MAYBE WERE NECESSARY IMPROVEMENTS? CHRIS MARTIN KURTZ PRESIDENT, NAPLES GIRLS SOFTBALL. I'M SORRY, WHAT WAS THE QUESTION? DID YOU ALL MAKE IMPROVEMENTS? NOT NECESSARILY UNDER YOUR LEADERSHIP, BUT THROUGH THESE DURING THESE YEARS WHEN THE $60,000, WHATEVER THAT AGREEMENT WAS? BUT WERE THERE ADDITIONAL IMPROVEMENTS MADE ABOVE AND BEYOND THAT, WHETHER THEY'RE WINDSCREENS OR BATTING CAGES OR WHATEVER? DID YOU ALL MAKE OTHER IMPROVEMENTS TO THE FACILITY? I CAN'T SPEAK TO WHAT HAPPENED BEFORE MY MY TENURE, BUT I KNOW SINCE WE'VE BEEN THERE, WE'VE WE'VE HAVE MADE OUR OWN IMPROVEMENTS. WE'VE REDONE THE BATTING CAGES, WE'VE ADDED BACKSTOP PAD, AND WE'VE DONE A LOT. WE'VE, YOU KNOW, REDONE THE EQUIPMENT. SO BALLPARK ME HOW MUCH THAT COST. I'M SORRY. WHAT'S THAT BALLPARK ME HOW MUCH THAT COST? BATTING CAGES WAS AROUND $3,000. THE BACKSTOP PAD WAS AROUND $1,000.

IT'S JUST 1000 HERE, 500 HERE. OKAY, SO SMALL IMPROVEMENTS, NOTHING TO THE SCALE OF DOING THE FENCING AND THE LIGHTING WHICH WAS DONE, WHICH WE WE REALLY WE WE HAVE THE SCOREBOARD COMING UP WHICH WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT. SO IT IS IN OUR INTEREST TO KEEP THE PARK VITAL AND, AND AND, AND LOOK REALLY NICE AND TO, TO BLEND IN WITH THE REST OF THE COMMUNITY. OKAY. THANKS. NOW, I THINK I DON'T WANT TO CHERRY PICK THE NUMBER OF HOW MANY WHAT PERCENT CITY FOLKS DO THE SOFTBALL THING. IT'S 14, APPROXIMATELY 14. BUT THAT CAN FLUCTUATE. WHAT PERCENT OF CITY FOLKS PARTICIPATE. OF THE ALL THE TOTAL PARTICIPANTS, WHAT PERCENT WOULD BE CITY RESIDENTS FOR CARS ON FIFTH BEFORE OUR BEACHES? FOR EVERY ART SHOW? I'LL BET IT AIN'T MORE THAN 14. I COULDN'T GUESS, BUT YEAH, FOR THE FARMERS MARKET FOR THE DOG

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PARK. JUST ASKING. SO THAT DOESN'T SEEM VERY RELEVANT TO ME. BUT I'LL TELL YOU, I KNOW THAT THAT ROBERT MURRAY IS GETTING INVOLVED. MICHAEL MORRIS AND THOSE GUYS ARE LEGENDS. AND AND UNTIL GOD TAKES ROBERT AMORY, HE IS THE THE ROCK THAT THE WAVES BREAK ON AND AND HE'S GOT HE'S DEAD SET ON THIS. I DID THE MATH. GREAT MINDS BURN 500 BUCKS IF IT WAS THE 37 NUMBER. SO FOR YEARS, IF YOU CHARGE 500 BUCKS EXTRA, THAT WOULD PAY THE DEBT COMPLETELY. 250 OVER EIGHT, OBVIOUSLY, BUT NOW WE'RE SAYING IT'S ONLY SIX EVENTS THAT CREATE THAT CONUNDRUM. SO NOW THAT WOULD EXPAND THE TIME ON THAT. BUT I'M HEARING WHAT OUR CITY MANAGER'S SAYING. AND I'M SAYING IF WE CAN MAKE SPACE FOR DOGS AND ERASE WHATEVER THAT OBLIGATION WAS, WE CAN SURE MAKE SPACE FOR KIDS IN THE SOFTBALL FIELD. LIKE THAT ISN'T EVEN A THING FOR ME. SO I'M ALL FOR JUST DOING THAT. AND BY WHATEVER MECHANISM WE NEED OVER HOW MANY YEARS WE NEED, THERE'S A THERE'S A THERE'S A NEW SHERIFF IN TOWN, THEY'VE GOT NEW MOMENTUM. THIS THING THEY'RE DOING WITH JACKIE TRAIN AND ALL THOSE ALL STARS THAT'S COMING UP IS A BIG DEAL. IT'D BE A IT'S A BIG DEAL LIKE FOR THE SOUTHEAST UNITED STATES.

LIKE, THESE ARE SUPERSTAR GIRLS COMING BACK AND GIVING BACK TO THE COMMUNITY, AND AND THAT'S THAT'S A REALLY COOL EVENT. AND THAT'S JUST THE START OF OF WHAT THIS WAS. AND FOR THOSE THAT WEREN'T HERE, THIS WAS LIKE WE WERE NATIONAL CHAMPIONS REPEATEDLY ON NATIONAL TELEVISION, REPEATEDLY LIKE THIS WAS A BIG DEAL. AND NOT I'M TALKING ABOUT FOLKS THAT HAD NO KIDS AT ALL INVOLVED EVER. YOU WALK. THE PLACE IS PACKED. THAT'S WHY THEY NEEDED THE BLEACHERS, Y'ALL. THIS WASN'T LIKE IN A VACUUM. WHERE? WELL, LET'S JUST PUT A BUNCH OF BLEACHERS UP. AND SO IN THAT VEIN, KNOWING THE POSSIBILITY AND KNOWING HOW IT IMPACTS KIDS AND FAMILIES FOR GENERATIONS, I WANT TO FIND A WAY TO TO TO LET US DO IT. LIKE I SAID, IF WE CAN DO IT FOR DOGS, WE CAN DO IT FOR KIDS IN OUR COMMUNITY. SO JUST TO ADD TO THAT, GARY, YOU CAN CALL THAT LINE ITEM EXPENSE ANYTHING YOU WANT. SO IF YOU WANT TO GET CREATIVE WITH THAT AND SO THAT IT FITS WITHIN THE SCOPE OF WHAT YOU THINK WOULD BE AN ACCEPTABLE LINE ITEM FEE, YOU CAN CALL IT BURN BARTON'S FEE, YOU KNOW, SO WHATEVER YOU THINK IS GOING TO IS GOING TO FLY FROM FROM AN ACCOUNTING PERSPECTIVE IS FINE WITH ME. SO I THANK YOU. THAT WAS EXACTLY WHAT I WAS TRYING TO SAY. I DO WANT TO LET MR. KURTZ SPEAK, BUT I THINK I WANT TO HEAR MORE ABOUT THE EVENT YOU'RE SPEAKING ABOUT. WE ARE CELEBRATING 250 YEARS OF OUR COUNTRY IN JULY. I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE A BIG FUNDRAISER AND HOT DOGS AND HAMBURGERS AND BRING BACK THOSE OLD SUPPORTERS AND LET THEM LET EVERY BOY AND GIRL, WHETHER IT'S AT FLESHMAN OR WHETHER IT'S HERE, KNOW THAT THAT'S OUR PRIORITY IS OUR FUTURE AND OUR AND OUR GIRLS AND OUR BOYS THAT ARE GOING TO BE FUTURE LEADERS. SO COULD I JUST HAVE THAT WHOLE GROUP OF SOFTBALL PLAYERS AND THOSE THAT COME AND STAND BEHIND YOU AND I'LL GIVE YOU, DON'T BE SHY.

CAN'T BE SHY. YOU'RE ON THAT FIELD. YOU'VE BEEN HERE ALL MORNING LONG. IF YOU'LL JUST COME AND STAND BEHIND HIM. THERE ARE SOME DEDICATED GIRLS. MR. KURTZ, IF YOU'D LIKE TO HAVE YOUR PUBLIC SPEAKING TIME. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING. MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS AND STAFF. MY NAME IS MARTIN KURTZ. I'M THE CURRENT PRESIDENT OF NAPLES GIRLS SOFTBALL POSITION I'VE HELD SINCE 2023. I WAS THE DAD WHO ANSWERED THE WE NEED A T-BALL COACH EMAIL IN THE FALL OF 2020, AND I'M HAPPY TO REPRESENT THIS ORGANIZATION TODAY, AN ORGANIZATION WITH A VERY RICH HISTORY OF CHAMPIONS AND A LEGACY OF DEVELOPING GIRLS AND YOUNG WOMEN THROUGH THE SPORT OF SOFTBALL. TODAY, I'M JOINED BY SOME PLAYERS AND PARENTS WHO CARE DEEPLY ABOUT THIS ORGANIZATION. MY THREE DAUGHTERS ARE HERE WHO ARE ALSO WHO ARE CURRENTLY PLAYING IN THE PROGRAM, AND I WORK HERE RIGHT IN THE CITY. LIKE MANY PARENTS I REPRESENT, MY ONLY AGENDA IS MAKING SURE THIS LEAGUE STAYS STRONG SO THAT MY GIRLS AND ALL OF OUR GIRLS CAN DEVELOP ATHLETIC SKILLS, CONFIDENCE AND LIFE LESSONS THAT ONLY TEAM SPORTS CAN CAN TEACH. I WANT TO COMMEND DIRECTOR MERRITT AND HIS STAFF. IN THE PAST THREE YEARS, WE HAVE BUILT A COLLABORATIVE RELATIONSHIP. THEY ARE TRUE PROFESSIONALS IN THEIR SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY, AND THEY DO CARE DEEPLY ABOUT YOUTH SPORTS, AND WE'RE VERY LUCKY TO HAVE THEM ON BEHALF OF OUR BOARD AND FAMILIES. NAPLES GIRLS SOFTBALL FULLY SUPPORTS THE PROPOSED USAGE FEES AND THE PER PLAYER FEE STRUCTURE BEING DISCUSSED TODAY. WE BELIEVE THEY'RE FAIR

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AND WILL HELP ENSURE THE LONG TERM SUSTAINABILITY OF GIRLS SOFTBALL IN NAPLES. WE'RE ALSO FULLY COMMITTED TO RESOLVING THE OUTSTANDING BALANCES FROM PRIOR AGREEMENTS. WE DO TAKE THAT RESPONSIBILITY SERIOUSLY, AND WE'RE ALREADY TAKING CONCRETE STEPS TO RESOLVE THIS BY THE END OF THE NEW TERM. I WILL SAY THAT RESOLVING THE BALANCE CAN'T BE DONE JUST THROUGH PARTICIPANT FEES. WE DO NEED SUPPORT OF CURRENT MEMBERS, ALUMNI AND COMMUNITY LEADERS.

COACH KRAMER COUNCIL. COUNCIL MEMBER KRAMER MENTIONED OUR DECEMBER 21ST COACH ROBERT AMORY IS IS BRINGING BACK SOME OF HIS PAST CHAMPIONS. WE'RE GOING TO DO A CAMP FOR GIRLS AGES 8 TO 11 RIGHT HERE AT CAMBIER PARK. WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THAT. ALL THE PROCEEDS ARE GOING TO GO TOWARDS THIS BALANCE NEXT SUMMER AND EVERY SUMMER GOING FORWARD, WE'RE GOING TO HOST A WEEK LONG CAMP AT CAMBIER PARK, WHICH WILL GO TOWARDS THE BALANCE, AND WE'RE HAPPY ABOUT THAT. WE ALSO, MAYOR HEITMAN MENTIONED STARTING A FUNDRAISER TOMORROW. WE ACTUALLY HAVE ONE TODAY. WE'VE INITIATED A CROWDFUNDING CAMPAIGN TO INVOLVE ALUMNI FOR A WALL OF CHAMPIONS CAMPAIGN. WE'LL PERMANENTLY HONOR EACH OF NAPLES 18 WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP SOFTBALL TEAMS, DISPLAYING THE TEAM NAME, CHAMPIONSHIP YEAR, AND FULL ROSTER OF PLAYERS AND COACHES ON A HIGH QUALITY BANNER. WE ALSO HAVE A CAMPAIGN TARGETING OUR CURRENT MEMBERS TO COMPLIMENT THE FUNDS THAT WE'VE RAISED TO ERECT A NEW SCOREBOARD THAT ALSO REFLECTS OUR LONG TERM COMMITMENT TO THE PARKS VITALITY. THE SCOREBOARD ALSO RECOGNIZE THE PAST CHAMPIONS NAPLES GIRLS SOFTBALL.COM/CAMBIER PARK. YOU CAN LEARN EVERYTHING ABOUT IT. MY VISION IS SIMPLE TO BE A CONTINUED CONTINUE BEING A VALUED, SELF-SUFFICIENT PARTNER OF THE CITY WITH SHARED GOALS, ALL OF ALL WHILE PROVIDING THE VERY BEST RECREATIONAL GIRLS SOFTBALL OPPORTUNITIES FOR NAPLES KIDS. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY OF YOUR QUESTIONS ABOUT THE STATE OF OUR ORGANIZATION, OUR FUNDRAISING INITIATIVES, OR ANYTHING ELSE THAT'S ON YOUR MIND. THANK YOU. YES, KRAMER. ONE MORE. JUST ONE THOUGHT THAT FOR COUNCILWOMAN, WHEN I DID CAMPS FOR YEARS FOR THE CITY, WE DID HAVE A REDUCED FEE FOR CITY RESIDENTS. THAT WAS A THING. AND THEN IF YOU'RE OUT OF THE CITY, YOU PAID MORE.

THAT WAS. I DON'T KNOW IF THEY STILL DO THAT. I DON'T KNOW, BUT THAT'S HOW WE ALWAYS DID IT.

SUMMER CAMP. WE'LL DO THAT. YEAH. SUMMER CAMPS. SO I'M JUST SAYING I THINK IT'S POSSIBLE.

YEAH IT IS. I WOULD SAY THOUGH FOR THE SPORTS, I, I THINK WHEN WE SEPARATE CITY FROM COUNTY AND THOSE COUNTY KIDS NEED TO KNOW THAT THIS IS THEIR CITY ALSO TO ME. WELL, THE OTHER THING IS IF ANYBODY I, I GAVE I DIDN'T CHARGE ANYBODY THAT COULDN'T AFFORD IT. SO THAT WAS ALSO A THING. LIKE I JUST I JUST WROTE IT OFF. MADAM MAYOR, MAY I MAKE A SUGGESTION. JUST JUST MY RECOMMENDATION. I MEAN, BASED ON THE COMMITMENT THAT THEY MADE IN THE AGREEMENT OF THE TERMS, RATHER THAN MESS AROUND WITH THE ORDINANCE OR RESOLUTION AS IT'S DEPICTED TO AUTHORIZE THE RESOLUTION AND THEN THE WHATEVER FUNDRAISER EVENTS THAT ARE THERE. I THINK I'VE HEARD COUNCIL AS A WHOLE AND SOME OF THE SUGGESTIONS AND THEN WE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE REEVALUATE IT IN THE BEFORE THE SUMMER BREAK AND SAY, IF WE WANT TO MAKE AN AMENDMENT TO RELINQUISH ANY PART OF THE OUTSTANDING DEBT, THAT WOULD JUST BE AN AMENDMENT TO THIS AGREEMENT REQUIRING IT TO BE PAID IN THE FIVE YEARS. SO IT'S SOMETHING WE CAN CONTINUE TO LOOK AT. BUT RATHER THAN TRY TO HASH THAT OUT, WHAT THAT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE TODAY, I THINK LET THESE THINGS UNFOLD. AND THEN WE CAN HAVE THAT PART OF THE CONVERSATION. GREAT. I, I APPRECIATE THAT RECOMMENDATION. AND CAN YOU ONCE AGAIN JUST SAY THE YOU HAVE AN EVENT COMING UP THE DATE. SO ON DECEMBER 21ST THIS MONTH, COACH ROBERT MURRAY IS GOING TO BRING BACK RYAN AND JACKIE AND A LOT OF HIS CHAMPIONS FROM THE 2006 NAPLES GIRLS SOFTBALL WORLD SERIES CHAMPION, AND ALSO THE 2008 NAPLES HIGH SCHOOL STATE CHAMPION TEAM. SO WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THAT. THAT'S GOING TO BE A FUN EVENT WITH A LARGE PARTICIPATION, AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A REALLY GOOD TIME. WHERE IS IT AT? IT'S RIGHT HERE AT CAMBRIDGE PARK. OKAY. AND THE TIME IT'S GOING TO BE IN THE AFTERNOON, I THINK IT'S 1 TO 5. SO I THINK THAT IF NO ONE'S OPPOSED TO THIS, THAT SHOULD BE ON OUR CALENDAR. AND ALSO I THINK THE SOFTBALL GAMES SHOULD BE ON OUR CALENDAR BECAUSE THEN THE COMMUNITY KNOWS WE'VE HAD A LOT OF REQUESTS FROM RESIDENTS TO TO POST THE CALENDAR. SO I THINK THAT'D BE REALLY WELL RECEIVED. AND I THINK YOU'RE AN ANGEL. NEW PRESIDENT. AND I CERTAINLY

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APPRECIATE YOUR LEADERSHIP, MR. KURTZ, AND WHAT THE OTHER MOTHERS THAT ARE HERE TODAY, THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU'RE DOING. AND THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. THANK YOU. OKAY, COUNCIL, I THINK THAT WE HAVE A DIRECTION THAT THIS RESOLUTION GOES TOWARDS THAT MR. YOUNG SAID. WE CAN APPROVE AND MAKE AN AMENDMENT IF NECESSARY. I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO KNOW JUST FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY. I KNOW WE DISCUSSED IT YESTERDAY THAT YOU MADE CHANGES TO THIS THAT WERE JUST MORE LEGALLY SUFFICIENT. THERE AREN'T ANY OTHER MAJOR CHANGES THAT BESIDES THE ONES WE'VE DISCUSSED WITH THE FEES OR WITH THAT OUTSTANDING DEBT. NO, I THINK WHEN THE AGREEMENT WAS SENT TO ME, IT HAD BEEN QUITE SOME TIME SINCE IT HAD BEEN UPDATED. SO I JUST TOOK THE LIBERTY OF OF UPDATING THE TEMPLATE FOR ALL THE AGREEMENTS LIKE I DO WITH, YOU KNOW, RIGHT OF WAY, ETC. SO I DO BELIEVE IT'S MORE LEGALLY SUFFICIENT.

OBVIOUSLY MY PRIORITY IS INDEMNITY AND INSURANCE, BUT I WORKED WITH STAFF AND I THINK THESE ARE GOOD FOR THE NEXT FORESEEABLE FUTURE. OKAY. WELL THANK YOU, STAFF VICE MAYOR.

YEAH. FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY, DO YOU BELIEVE AFTER THE DISCUSSION TODAY IN THE RESOLUTION AS WRITTEN IN 13 A AND I BELIEVE WE'RE WE WOULD CONSIDER A MOTION TO APPROVE EACH OF THESE ON A STANDALONE BASIS. IS THAT CORRECT? YES. OKAY. AND BASED ON WHAT YOU HEARD IN THIS DISCUSSION, IS THERE ANY RECOMMENDED CHANGES THAT WOULD NEED TO BE INCLUDED IN THE MOTION? NO, I THINK THE MOTION WOULD BE TO APPROVE THE RESOLUTION AS IT READS. BUT TO MR. YOUNG'S POINT, I THINK HE'S ALREADY GOTTEN THE CONSENSUS HE NEEDS REGARDING THE PRIOR RESOLUTION. SO I THINK THAT WOULD BE SUFFICIENT FOR TODAY'S PURPOSES. SO, MADAM MAYOR, WHENEVER IT'S APPROPRIATE, I'M READY TO THERE'S NO FURTHER QUESTIONS. I'LL AND YOU CAN MAKE THE MOTION. OKAY. I MOVE TO APPROVE 13 A THE RESOLUTION APPROVING THE LICENSE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF NAPLES AND NAPLES. GIRLS SOFTBALL FOR THE USE OF CAMBIER PARK AND PARK FACILITIES. A MOTION BY VICE MAYOR. I HAVE A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER BARTON. MADAM CLERK, PLEASE PULL THE COUNCIL. COUNCIL MEMBER. KRISEMAN. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. BARTON. YES.

COUNCIL MEMBER. CRAMER. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. PENNIMAN. YES. VICE MAYOR. HUTCHISON. YES. MAYOR. HEITMAN. ABSOLUTELY. YES. SO THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. AND GOOD LUCK WITH THE FUNDRAISING AND HOPE TO SEE YOU AT A GAME. AND, MAYOR, IF I MAY. YES. IS THAT APPROVING OPTION ONE, THE THAT PAYMENT SCHEDULE, JUST FOR CLARIFICATION. OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

MADAM MAYOR, FOR CLARIFICATION THAT THE RESPONSE IS YES. ON 13 A TO INCLUDE APPROVAL OF OPTION ONE, THE PAYMENT PLAN OR PAYMENT SCHEDULE. THANK YOU. AND THE SECOND STANZA. OKAY.

[13.B) A Resolution Approving a License Agreement Between the City of Naples and Greater Naples Little League, Inc. for the Use of Fleischmann Park Facilities to Conduct a Youth Baseball League at Fleischmann Park for a Three-Year Term with Two One-Year Extensions; Authorizing the City Manager to Execute the License Agreement; Providing for Scrivener’s Errors; and Providing an Effective Date. ]

THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION. IT THAT TAKES US TO ITEM 13 B MR. MCCONNELL. YES.

THANK YOU MAYOR. A RESOLUTION APPROVING A LICENSE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF NAPLES AND GREATER NAPLES LITTLE LEAGUE, INC. FOR THE USE OF PARK FACILITIES TO CONDUCT A YOUTH BASEBALL LEAGUE AT FLEISCHMANN PARK FOR A THREE YEAR TERM WITH TWO ONE YEAR EXTENSIONS AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE LICENSE AGREEMENT, PROVIDING PRESCRIPTIONS ERRORS, AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. GOOD MORNING, CHAD MERRITT, COMMUNITY SERVICES DIRECTOR. THIS IS KIND OF SAME CONCEPT AS FAR AS REDOING ANOTHER USE AGREEMENT FOR OUR LICENSE AGREEMENT. EXCUSE ME WITH THE BASEBALL LEAGUE, SAME FEE STRUCTURE WOULD APPLY TO THIS. SO I DON'T UNLESS YOU WANT ME TO GO BACK THROUGH THAT. IT'S STILL THE SAME THING. OPTION ONE WOULD APPLY TO THIS LEAGUE AS WELL. I WILL NOTE THAT THIS LEAGUE ALSO RUNS SEPTEMBER TO NOVEMBER FOR THE FALL LEAGUE, JANUARY TO MAY FOR THE SPRING LEAGUE. IT'S ABOUT AGAIN 28 WEEKS AND THE CITY SPENDS APPROXIMATELY 63,000 A YEAR BASED ON TWO AND A HALF FIELD USE. AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE DONE SOME IMPROVEMENTS TO MAINTAIN THE FACILITIES. AND THE BATTING CAGE WAS ACTUALLY ONE OF THE MOST RECENT ITEMS IS WE'VE ALSO DONE FIELD IMPROVEMENTS TO THIS, THESE FIELDS AS WELL. AND AS DAVID MICHAEL STATED, WE WENT IN AND ACTUALLY MADE ONE OF THE FIELDS WHERE IT COULD BE MULTI-USE, WHERE BASEBALL AND SOFTBALL COULD UTILIZE IT. SO IF WE NEEDED TO HAVE BASEBALL OR WE NEEDED TO HAVE SOFTBALL THERE, THEN WE COULD WE RECEIVE ABOUT 15,000 REVENUE BASED ON THE USER FEE AND THE BUILDING

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FEE. ABOUT 47% OF THE PARTICIPANTS RESIDE IN THE CITY. AND I THINK THIS IS AGAIN, THIS WOULD RUN START JANUARY 1ST, AND WE WOULD CONTINUE TO UPDATE THAT WITH THE REST OF THE ATHLETIC FEES. THERE ARE NO OUTSTANDING BALANCES FROM THIS SIDE, AND I'M OPEN TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE THAT. OBVIOUSLY, WE AS I STATED BEFORE, OUR RECOMMENDATION FROM CSAB WAS GOING WITH OPTION ONE AND AS WELL AS STAFF. I WAS REMISS IN ASKING WERE THESE WAS THIS INFORMATION PROVIDED TO THE LEAGUES PRIOR TO OUR APPROVAL? SO THEY'RE AWARE OF OF THIS? OH YEAH. OKAY. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER PETRANOFF. YES. I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T HEAR THAT. WHAT PERCENT ARE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THE CITY? 47% IN THE CITY. 47. OKAY, A MUCH HIGHER PERCENTAGE, YOU KNOW. THAT'S THAT. THAT GIVES ME A LITTLE BIT MORE COMFORT CONSIDERING WE ARE AN INDEPENDENT MUNICIPALITY AND. I WOULD RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE THAT SOME OF THESE EVENTS ARE 14% ARE CITY LIKE THE FARMER'S MARKET. IF YOU'VE EVER BEEN THERE, OKAY, OKAY. WELL ANYWAY, SO I'M GLAD THAT IT'S MORE THAN MORE THAN THAT. BUT IT'S I STILL STRUGGLE WITH SUBSIDIZING SOME OF THESE SOME OF THESE EVENTS. IT'S WHERE DO WE STOP AS TAXPAYERS? WE'RE GETTING A LOT OF HEAT ON THE OTHER SIDE TO ELIMINATE PROPERTY TAXES. SO WHAT HAPPENS THEN? I THINK WE GO TO THE COUNTY AND ASK FOR MORE. AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT.

YES, BECAUSE IT TAKES IT TAKES CITY AND COUNTY TO TO RAISE CHILDREN. AND WE HAVE TRADITION HERE. AND I DON'T WANT TO SEE THIS TRADITION GO, I, I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU, BUT I THINK THAT IT NEEDS TO COME IN LOCKSTEP WITH AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT. THANK YOU. I'LL BE NEXT ON MR. A MORE HAWKISH WITH FINANCES. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF. YES. VICE MAYOR IF APPROPRIATE I'M PREPARED TO MAKE A MOTION ON ITEM 13 B. I MOVE APPROVAL OF 13 B A RESOLUTION APPROVING THE LICENSE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF NAPLES AND THE GREATER NAPLES LITTLE LEAGUE, INC. FOR THE USE OF FLESHMAN PARK FACILITIES TO CONDUCT A YOUTH BASEBALL LEAGUE AT FLESHMAN PARK FOR THREE YEAR TERM AND TWO YEAR, ONE YEAR EXTENSIONS.

THIS IS WITHIN THIS ITEM ADOPTING OPTION ONE, AS WELL AS ADOPTING WHAT IS DESCRIBED AS THE NEW LICENSE AGREEMENT. SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION BY VICE MAYOR AND A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER BARTON. MADAM CLERK, PLEASE PULL THE COUNCIL. VICE MAYOR. HUTCHISON. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. KRISEMAN. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. BARTON. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER.

CRAMER. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. PETRANOFF. YES. MAYOR. HARTMAN. ABSOLUTELY. YES. AND I HOPE

[13.C) A Resolution Approving a License Agreement Between the City of Naples and Naples Gators, Inc. for the Use of Fleischmann Park Facilities to Conduct Youth Football League at Fleischmann Park for a Three-Year Term with Two One-Year Extensions; Authorizing the City Manager to Execute the License Agreement; Providing for Scrivener’s Errors; and Providing an Effective Date. ]

SOMEBODY BOUGHT THEM A NEW HOT DOG MACHINE WITH THAT. MOVING ON TO ITEM 13 C. THANK YOU.

MAYOR. RESOLUTION APPROVING A LICENSE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF NAPLES AND NAPLES GATORS, INC. FOR THE USE OF FLESHMAN PARK FACILITIES TO CONDUCT A YOUTH FOOTBALL LEAGUE AT FLESHMAN PARK FOR A THREE YEAR TERM WITH TWO ONE YEAR EXTENSIONS AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE LICENSE AGREEMENT, PROVIDING FOR SCRIVENER'S ERRORS, AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. YES. CHAD MERRITT, COMMUNITY SERVICES DIRECTOR. AGAIN, THIS IS A LEAGUE, THE FOOTBALL LEAGUE, THAT HAS TAKEN PLACE FOR MANY, MANY YEARS. NAPLES GATORS. THIS IS A 27 WEEK LEAGUE. THEY OPERATE FALL LEAGUE JULY TO NOVEMBER. SPRING LEAGUE FEBRUARY TO MAY. THEY DO EXCUSE ME. THEY DO USE A FIT. WE CALL IT ONE AND A HALF FIELDS BECAUSE IT'S A IT'S NOT A FULL FIELD BESIDE IT. THEY ALSO HAVE USE OF THE CONCESSION AREA, A LOCKER ROOM AREA AND A PRESS BOX AREA. SO THEY'RE BUILDING FEE IS A LITTLE BIT HIGHER THAN WHAT YOU SAW FROM THE PREVIOUS TWO LEAGUES. WE RECEIVE ABOUT 19,000 OF REVENUE FROM THIS WITH THE BUILDING FEE AS WELL AS USER FEES. ABOUT 5% OF THE PARTICIPANTS RESIDE IN THE CITY, AND THIS WOULD STILL BE OPTION ONE AS THE SAME FEE WOULD EXIST

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WITHIN THIS. CSAB MADE THE RECOMMENDATION TO GO WITH OPTION ONE, ALONG WITH THE FIVE YEAR AGREEMENT, AND AS WELL AS STAFF RECOMMENDS GOING WITH OPTION ONE. AND THIS WOULD START ON JANUARY 1ST, 2026. NOW. MR. MAYOR, DID WE PAY TO REPLACE THE FOOTBALL FIELD TURF? WE HAD THE TURF PROJECT UNDERWAY AND DUE TO SOME, IF YOU REMEMBER WHEN WE BROUGHT THAT BACK TO YOU, WE HAD TO RESCIND THE RESOLUTION BECAUSE THE CONTRACTOR INCREASED THE FEE BY ALMOST HALF $1 MILLION ON THE PROJECT. SO WE HAD TO BACK OUT OF THAT OR NOT HAD TO WE DID BACK OUT OF THAT BECAUSE IT DIDN'T MAKE FINANCIAL SENSE, BECAUSE IT WE DIDN'T HAVE IT.

WE SAY IT THAT IT WASN'T. THAT PROJECT COULD HAVE BEEN SUBSTANTIALLY LESS IF WE BACKED OUT OF IT. SO IT IS IN A FUTURE CONVERSATION. BUT WE FELT THAT WE NEEDED TO HAVE THIS AGREEMENT UPDATED BEFORE WE HAD THAT CONVERSATION LATER ON. YEAH. SO WE WERE WILLING TO PAY TO REPLACE THAT SOD AT THAT FOOTBALL FIELD. YES, IT WAS GOING TO BE ARTIFICIAL TURF. SO IT WAS 1.2. AROUND 1.2, $1.3 MILLION IS WHAT WE WOULD HAVE BEEN PAYING. AND NOW TO DISCUSS THIS FURTHER, THIS IS A LEAGUE THAT'S AN IMPORTANT LEAGUE, BUT IT'S ALSO A LEAGUE THAT IS DEFINITELY MAJORITY OF COUNTY PLAYERS. NOW I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO, YOU KNOW, WHO'S MORE IMPORTANT. BUT THE THING THAT CONCERNS ME ABOUT THESE. AGREEMENTS IS THAT WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF LOOKING AT OUR PARKS AND WHAT WE WANT THEM TO BE. SO IS FLESHMAN ONE OF THE PARKS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT TO SEE WHAT WE WANT IN THE PARK IN THE FUTURE? IT WASN'T A PART OF THE SURVEY. YEAH. SO ALL OF THE PARKS WILL BE PART OF THAT NEEDS ASSESSMENT PROCESS TO DETERMINE WHAT THE COMMUNITY IS WANTING IN TERMS OF RECREATIONAL NEEDS. SO IT WILL INCLUDE ALL OF THEM. AND SO IF WE DECIDE THAT WE'RE GOING TO RENEW THIS FOR THREE YEARS.

YEAH. WHAT'S THE TIME FRAME IN THE SURVEYS AND WHEN WE'RE GOING TO BE MAKING THE DECISION ON ON WHAT WE WANT OUR PARKS TO LOOK LIKE. SO THE MASTER PLAN WILL BE COMPLETE IN THE SUMMER OF 26. AND OBVIOUSLY IF IF IT GIVES RECOMMENDATIONS, THEN THERE HAS TO BE A DISCUSSION.

IF THERE'S CIP ITEMS THAT ARE IDENTIFIED WITHIN THAT, THEN YOU WOULD HAVE TO PUT IT INTO THE BUDGET PROPOSAL, WHICH IF WE USED 26 SUMMER OF 26, THAT WOULD MEAN THE SOONEST THAT IT WOULD COME IN FRONT OF YOU WOULD BE THE BUDGET YEAR OF THAT. WE WOULD DISCUSS IN THE SPRING OF 27, WHICH MEANS IT WOULD BE FY 28, WOULD BE AS SOON AS THAT YOU GO. SO THIS TERM WOULD GO 26. SO YEAR THREE WOULD MEAN 29. BUT EVEN IF YOU APPROVE A PROJECT OR YOU APPROVE SOMETHING, A MOVE TO GO TOWARDS SOMETHING, WE'VE GOT TO GO THROUGH A DESIGN. YOU'VE GOT TO GO THROUGH A BID PROCESS. SO I WOULD SAY THAT'S AT LEAST ANOTHER YEAR. SO THAT WOULD TAKE US THROUGH THE TERM OF THE FIRST THREE YEARS FOR SURE. I DISCUSSED THAT WITH THE CITY MANAGER, BUT I THOUGHT THE RECORD DESERVED THAT. YEAH. SO. JUST TELL ME ABOUT WE HIRED WHO TO DO THE SURVEY. WESSON AND SAMPSON IS CONSULTING GROUP AND THEY YOU SAID SOMETHING ABOUT THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS. IT'LL BE THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS BY THE SURVEYS THAT ARE GIVEN OUT. YES.

SO THEY BASED THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS ON ALL OF THE INPUT THAT THEY RECEIVED THROUGH COMMUNITY AS WELL. AS THEY GO THROUGH STAFF INPUT, THEY GO THROUGH ELECTED OFFICIAL INPUT. THEY HAVE STAKEHOLDERS. IT'S A PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL PROCESS THAT THEY GO THROUGH WHEN THEY DEVELOP THESE RECOMMENDATIONS AND WILL ALL BE BASED ON WHAT THEY HAVE RECEIVED FROM THAT FEEDBACK. AND OF COURSE, TRENDS AND, AND, AND WHERE WE STAND FROM A STANDPOINT OF WHAT WE OFFER. OKAY. THANK YOU. BECAUSE I. AND THEN I THINK WE NEED TO DISCUSS OUR POLICIES IN GENERAL ON MAINTENANCE AND REDOING FIELDS, BECAUSE IF WE WERE WILLING TO REDO THE FIELD FOR THE FOOTBALL FIELD, AND WE HAVE A LONG OUTSTANDING HISTORY WITH THE

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SOFTBALL FIELD, SOME FAIRNESS AND CONSISTENCY MIGHT BE ORDERED. YEAH. WELL, I DO WANT TO NOTE THAT THERE HASN'T BEEN A WE'RE STILL PUTTING ATTENTION ON IT. WE HAVE REPLACED THE FENCE. WE'VE REPLACED THE LIGHTS, WE PUT THE WINDSCREEN UP. WE WENT IN AND COMPLETELY REDID THE WARNING TRACK, THE FIELD ITSELF. SO WE SPEND JUST AS MUCH TIME ON ON ALL OF THEM.

OUR JOB AND OUR GOAL IS TO MAINTAIN OUR FACILITIES TO THE HIGHEST EXPECTATION AS POSSIBLE.

THAT'LL BE SOMETHING THOUGH, THAT TOTAL COST OF WHAT? THAT I MEAN, LOOKING FORWARD, WE CAN TELL THESE THINGS, YOU KNOW, NEED TO BE LOOKED AT, WHICH I CAN TELL YOU'RE ALREADY DOING.

BUT JUST SO THAT WE HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THE COST IS WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT OUR MASTER PLAN. OKAY. THANK YOU. I HAVE KRAMER AND THEN BARTON. SAME SIMILAR HISTORY.

NOT 18 WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS, BUT CERTAINLY THE NAPLES GATORS WERE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS BACK IN THE DAY, OR NATIONAL CHAMPIONS, I SHOULD SAY. AND FOR THOSE THAT DON'T KNOW WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT LEE AGE GROUPS, SO YOU HAVE EVERYTHING FROM SIX USE EIGHT, SEVEN, EIGHT, NINE. EVERY AGE IS ANOTHER GROUP OF OF KIDS. AND I THINK SOMETIMES WE THINK THERE'S A LEAGUE. IT'S IT'S MIXED AND IT IS JUST A CERTAIN EXTENT. BUT IT'S VERY STRIATED.

ANTHONY PARK AND I'VE THOUGHT THIS FOREVER. I WAS I REMEMBER I WALKED IT WHENEVER THEY WERE REDOING THE SOD. I WASN'T ON COUNCIL OR ANYTHING, I JUST WE JUST USED THAT PARK AND I WAS WONDERING ABOUT WHAT PUTTING IN ARTIFICIAL TURF THERE. IS IT BIG? I DON'T THINK IT'S NOT BIG ENOUGH TO HAVE A WHOLE FOOTBALL FIELD, IS IT? IS IT? SO JUST A BRIEF HISTORY OF WHAT THAT HOW THAT CAME ABOUT. SO THE ORIGINAL PLAN WAS TO HAVE TWO SEPARATE MULTI-USE FIELDS, AND THEN IT GOT COMBINED. WHEN WE BROUGHT IT INTO HERE AS ONE, I'D HAVE TO DO THE MEASUREMENT AND WE MEASURED IT. IT WOULD FIT A FIELD CONFIRMED BY BY MY MAN, BECAUSE THAT'S SOMETHING TO JUST THINK ABOUT MOVING FORWARD. YOU COULD, IF YOU WANTED TO MOVE THE FOOTBALL VENUE. I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT STANDS AND ALL THAT, HOW ALL THAT WOULD FIT, BUT I'M THINKING IT WOULD LOOK, WHEN I WALKED, I THOUGHT WE COULD DO IT HERE IF WE NEEDED TO. YEAH, THE PARKING'S A CHALLENGE THERE. THAT'S IS THE ISSUE I WAS GOING TO. THAT'S MY NEXT THING I KNOW PARKING WOULD BE. I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WOULD WORK. YEAH. THE PARKING IS A CHALLENGE, YOU KNOW. AND THIS WAS AGAIN BEFORE ME. I KNOW WHEN THAT PARK WAS DEVELOPED, THERE WAS SOME FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY NOT PUTTING LEAGUES ON THE THE SPACE THERE. THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY PREVENT IF WE NEED TO HAVE PRACTICE SPACE TO BE ABLE TO HAVE PRACTICE, BECAUSE WE COULD HANDLE SOME OF THE TRAFFIC FOR THAT AND MORE THAN WHAT YOU GET WHEN YOU HAVE PRACTICE, MOST KIDS ARE DROPPED OFF FOR PRACTICE AND PICKED UP. SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'VE LOOKED AT. BUT WE WANTED TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION AND ALSO GO THROUGH THIS MASTER PLAN PROCESS SO THAT WE COULD COME BACK AND EYES WIDE OPEN, HAVE THAT CONVERSATION. OKAY. IS IT OKAY FOR US TO PROCEED WITH HAVING PRACTICE AT THIS LOCATION? BECAUSE IT'S A BEAUTIFUL FIELD. WE MAINTAIN IT. WE'VE GOT A I MEAN, IT LOOKS PRISTINE. UNFORTUNATELY, WE'VE HAD TO RUN PEOPLE OFF FROM HITTING GOLF BALLS ON IT. AND WELL, THAT'S BECAUSE WHEN YOU PUT THAT GRASS ON THERE, THE TYPE YOU PUT ON, I WAS LIKE, I THINK IT'D BE GOOD. YEAH, YEAH, BUT IT'S GREAT GRASS. SO I JUST BRING THAT UP BECAUSE HISTORICALLY, WHETHER THE GATORS THERE, A LOT OF THEIR PARTICIPANTS WERE AT RIVER PARK. AND I ALWAYS THOUGHT, WELL, I USED TO DO CLINICS THERE AT THE FIELD, IF YOU REMEMBER, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE HERE OR NOT, BUT AT DIFFERENT TIMES IT'S HAD A SOFTBALL FIELD ON IT, BASEBALL FIELD ON IT, BACKSTOPS AND ALL THAT STUFF. SO I THINK THAT'S JUST AN UNDERUSED RESOURCE. WHEN WE TALK ABOUT OUR WHAT'S IN OUR, OUR QUEUE FOR FOR PARKS AND REC. AND I DO WANT TO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THAT WE DO RECOGNIZE THE IMPORTANCE OF THAT OF THE, OF THE NAPLES GATORS TO THE RIVER PARK COMMUNITY BECAUSE IT'S BEEN A BIG DEAL FOR A LONG TIME. YEAH. GREAT. BARTON, QUESTION FOR YOU.

I REALIZE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE NAPLES GATORS AGREEMENT HERE, BUT ARE THE FIELDS USED FOR OTHER LEAGUES? I KNOW I PLAYED IN FLAG FOOTBALL LEAGUE, SO I WAS ABOUT 42 AND IT WAS EVERYTHING TOOK PLACE. THERE ARE THOSE OTHER LEAGUES STILL PARTICIPATING AND USING THAT LOCATION. SO WE HAVE SOME LEAGUES IN THERE. WE'VE GOT WE RENT IT TO SOME TRAVEL TEAMS, BUT WE'VE KIND OF MADE THE STANCE THAT OUR, AT LEAST FROM MY SIDE AS A DIRECTOR, THAT OUR GOAL IS TO FIRST MAKE SURE THAT WE MEET THE NEEDS OF THE ACTUAL LEAGUE, THAT WE HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH, WHICH IN THIS CASE IS GREATER NAPLES BASEBALL AND THEN NAPLES SOFTBALL. SO EVERYBODY ELSE COMES SECOND WHEN WE PUT THEM IN THERE. BUT STAFF HAS BEEN ABLE TO GO ON AND DO SOME OTHER LEAGUES IN ADDITION TO OUTSIDE OF THE THAT AS WELL. AND I CAN YEAH, WE

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HAVE SOCCER AND LACROSSE OVER ON THE BASEBALL AND AND OKAY THE WAX NOT BASEBALL. SORRY ON THE SOFTBALL THERE'S TOO MANY LEAGUES RUNNING AROUND. I'M AGAIN A BASEBALL PLAYER. SO IT'S STUCK IN MY HEAD ON THE FOOTBALL FIELD. AND THEN THAT LITTLE SIDE FIELD THAT'S THERE.

YEAH. SO WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, UTILIZATION OF THAT AREA OF THAT LOCATION, IT'S NOT JUST FOR NAPLES GATORS EITHER. THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER LEAGUES THAT ARE USING THAT FOOTBALL FIELD. AND LIKE I SAID, I KNOW I HAD I QUIT PLAYING FLAG FOOTBALL WHEN I COULDN'T GET THROUGH A SEASON WITHOUT PULLING A HAMSTRING. SO MY MY AGE PREVENTED ME FROM CONTINUING THAT. WELL, MANY OTHER THINGS, AGE AND SIZE PREVENTED ME FROM DOING THAT.

BUT NONETHELESS, MY POINT IS, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO TO MAKE SURE THAT WE UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S NOT JUST NAPLES GATORS OVER THERE WHO WHO NEED THAT FACILITY, BUT ALSO THAT WE'VE GOT OTHER LEAGUES THAT ARE PARTICIPATING IN FLOURISHING USING THAT LOCATION AS WELL.

AND WE USE THEM FOR SUMMER CAMPS AS WELL. OPEN SPACE. WE WHEN IT'S AVAILABLE, THE PUBLIC.

I MEAN, EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE THE PUBLIC WILL GO OUT AND WANT TO THROW A FOOTBALL OR KICK A SOCCER BALL. YEAH, OKAY, GOOD. VICE MAYOR. THANK CHAD. AND APPN THE YOUR TEAM'S EFFORT ON FOR COUNCILMAN CRAMER ON THIS ONE. THIS THIS ITEM SPECIFICALLY CALLS OUT THE ORGANIZATION NAMED THE NAPLES GATORS. AND THERE'S BEEN DISCUSSION UP HERE ON THE DAIS ABOUT THE NAPLES GATORS AND THE DIFFERENT LEVELS OF PARTICIPATION IN AGE GROUPS WITHIN NAPLES GATORS. BUT MY QUESTION IS THIS IS THERE A DOTTED LINE THAT YOU'VE BEEN ABLE TO IDENTIFY FROM PARTICIPANTS IN NAPLES GATORS TO NAPLES HIGH SCHOOL THAT AT ANY POINT IN TIME? I CAN'T SPEAK TO IT RIGHT NOW, BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT HISTORICALLY THAT IS THE CASE. YEAH, THAT THAT'S JUST THANK GOODNESS. YEAH. VERY GOOD. SO COUNCIL IT'S IT'S IT'S THE PERCENTAGE OF COUNTY PARTICIPANTS ON THIS ONE. RIGHT. THE VERSUS CITY PARTICIPANTS. BUT IT HAS A IT HAS EXTENSIONS AND IMPACTS ON OUR EVEN OUR LOCAL HIGH SCHOOL. AND IT'S A PROGRAM I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE CONTINUED. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND VICE MAYOR TO BURNS PART ABOUT THE PROGRAMING JUST FOR THAT AREA NAPLES. NAPLES GIRLS LACROSSE WAS KIND OF BORN THERE WITH FRANK AUDITORY. I MEAN HE'S HE COULD USE THE HIGH SCHOOL FIELD SOME BUT AND THEY THEY THAT'S A THAT WAS A MUST MUST NEED OR A MET NEED FOR NAPLES GIRLS LACROSSE AND MAYBE STILL BE I DON'T KNOW I DON'T FOLLOW IT ANYMORE. BUT TO USE THAT FACILITY ARE THEY STILL DOING THAT OR. NO. YEAH. OKAY. YEAH WE HAVE THE COLLIER COUNTY LACROSSE ASSOCIATION WHICH THEY DO HAVE SOME SOME FEMALE OR GIRL PARTICIPANTS IN IT. THEY UTILIZE OUR FACILITY ALL THE TIME. WE ALSO HAVE A KICKBALL LEAGUE THAT WE RUN ON SUNDAYS, AND WE ALSO HAVE OUR SOCCER LEAGUE THAT RUNS THROUGHOUT THE WEEK AS WELL WITH WITH OBVIOUSLY THE NAPLES GATORS AS OUR NUMBER ONE USER OF THE RECTANGLE FIELDS THERE AT FLEISCHMANN. THANK YOU. GOOD QUESTION. AND I THOUGHT THAT'S WHERE YOU WERE SCOUTING. I'M GLAD YOU MENTIONED IT, VICE MAYOR. AND IT'S A GOOD THING. OKAY. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR HAVE A MOTION. I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE 13 C A RESOLUTION APPROVING A LICENSE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF NAPLES AND NAPLES GATORS FOR USE OF FLEISCHMANN PARK FOR YOUTH FOOTBALL LEAGUE FOR THREE YEAR TERM WITH TWO ONE YEAR EXTENSIONS. MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER CHRISTMANN AND A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER PENMAN. MADAM CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE COUNCIL. COUNCIL MEMBER PENMAN. YES.

COUNCIL MEMBER CRAMER. YES. VICE MAYOR. HUTCHISON. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. CHRISTMANN. YES.

COUNCIL MEMBER. BARTON. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. PETRANOFF. YES. MAYOR. HEITMAN. YES. THANK YOU.

PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. MR. MCCONNELL. ITEM 13. OH, WAIT. STAFF. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME TALK SPORTS IN THE COUNCIL MEETING. YES. AND AND JUST FOR THE RECORD, BEFORE 12,

[13.D) Executive Session regarding Naples Pride v. City of Naples, Naples City Council, Teresa Heitmann, Terry Hutchison, Raymond Christman, Beth Petrunoff, Bill Kramer, Linda Penniman, and Berne Barton, in their official capacities as City Council members; Naples Police Department; and Ciro Dominguez, in his official capacity as Naples Chief of Police, Case No. 2025-CV-00291-JES-KCD, United States District Court, Middle District of Florida, Fort Myers Division.]

RIGHT. THANK YOU. GOING TO ITEM 13 D. YES. THANK YOU MAYOR. SO PURSUANT TO 286 .011 SUBPARAGRAPH EIGHT, YOUR CITY ATTORNEY IS ANNOUNCING HIS REQUEST FOR AN EXECUTIVE

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SESSION CLOSED TO THE PUBLIC FOR THE PURPOSE OF SEEKING ADVICE CONCERNING ONE OF TWO THINGS EITHER SETTLEMENT NEGOTIATIONS OR STRATEGY RELATED TO LITIGATION EXPENDITURES ASSOCIATED WITH LITIGATION, STYLED NAPLES PRIDE VERSUS CITY OF NAPLES, NAPLES CITY COUNCIL, TERESA HEITMANN, TERRY HUTCHINSON, RAYMOND CHRISTMANN, BETH PETRANOFF, BILL KRAMER, LINDA PENMAN, AND BERNARD BARTON IN THEIR OFFICIAL CAPACITIES AS CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, NAPLES POLICE DEPARTMENT AND CIRO DOMINGUEZ AND HIS OFFICIAL CAPACITY AS NAPLES CHIEF OF POLICE. CASE NUMBER 2025 CV 00291-JESK, C D UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT, MIDDLE DISTRICT OF FLORIDA, FORT MYERS DIVISION. ON DECEMBER 10TH, 2025, AT APPROXIMATELY 1:30 P.M. OR IMMEDIATELY FOLLOWING THE PREVIOUS EXECUTIVE SESSION, SCHEDULED AT 1230 IN THE CITY'S CONFERENCE ROOM ON THE SECOND FLOOR OF CITY HALL, THE EXECUTIVE SESSION IS EXPECTED TO LAST APPROXIMATELY ONE HOUR. THE ENTIRE SESSION SHALL BE RECORDED BY THE CERTIFIED COURT REPORTER. NO PORT OF A NO PORTION OF THE TRANSCRIPT WILL BE LEFT OFF THE RECORD. COURT REPORTERS NO SHALL BE FULLY TRANSCRIBED AND FILED WITH THE CITY CLERK WITHIN A REASONABLE TIME AFTER THE MEETING. AS YOU KNOW, CITY COUNCIL WILL TAKE NO ACTION DURING THE EXECUTIVE SESSION, BUT MAY TAKE ACTION ONCE WE RECONVENE IN THE PUBLIC.

FOLLOWING INDIVIDUALS WILL BE PRESENT DURING THE EXECUTIVE SESSION. MAYOR TERESA HEITMANN, COUNCIL MEMBERS TERRY HUTCHISON, RICK KRISEMAN, BETH PETRANOFF, BILL KRAMER, LINDA PENMAN, BRIAN BARTON, CITY MANAGER GARY YOUNG, INSURANCE COUNCIL DAVID JORDAN, CITY ATTORNEY MATTHEW MCCONNELL, ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY ANDREW DICKMAN, ATTORNEY ODESSA DICKMAN, ATTORNEY PETE PATTERSON, AND A REPRESENTATIVE FROM DION'S COURT REPORTING AND A FEW OF THESE MEMBERS ATTORNEYS APPEARING MAY APPEAR VIA ZOOM. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THAT CONCLUDES 13 DAYS ANNOUNCEMENT. IT'S 1024. WE'LL TAKE A TEN MINUTE BREAK A

[15.A) An Ordinance Amending Section 30-336 Stormwater Management Utility Fees Set Forth in Appendix “A” Fees and Charges Schedule of the Code of Ordinances, City of Naples, to Reflect a Four-Year Annual Rate Adjustment; Providing for Codification; Conflicts; Severability; Correction of Scrivener’s Errors; Construction; Publication; and an Effective Date.]

OKAY, WE'RE BACKM OUR SHORT BREAK. CONTINUING ON WITH ITEM 15, A MR. MCCONNELL.

YES. THANK YOU. MAYOR. AN ORDINANCE AMENDING SECTION 3336 STORMWATER MANAGEMENT UTILITY FEES SET FORTH IN APPENDIX A, FEES AND CHARGES SCHEDULE OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES, CITY OF NAPLES TO REFLECT A FOUR YEAR ANNUAL RATE ADJUSTMENT PROVIDING FOR CODIFICATION.

CONFLICT. SEVERABILITY, CORRECTION OF SCRIVENER'S ERRORS. CONSTRUCTION, PUBLICATION, AND EFFECTIVE DATE. THANK YOU, MR. YOUNG. YES, MAYOR. I'LL BE BRIEF. FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO THANK LISA FOR ALL OF HER HARD WORK IN HELPING ME GET THIS PREPARED AND AND DOCTOR GOMEZ HELPING ME CARRY IT OVER THE FINISH LINE WITH LISA. THIS IS THE SECOND READING INSTITUTING A FOUR YEAR INCREASE IN STORMWATER RATES FOR THE PURPOSE OF FUNDING 20 OR IN 20 PLUS YEARS, AND MULTI-YEAR INFRASTRUCTURE REPLACEMENT PROGRAM AND GENERATING 168 MILLION OVER THAT PERIOD OF TIME, OF WHICH WE WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO LEVERAGE AGAINST CONTINUED FEDERAL AND STATE ASSISTANCE, BECAUSE, AS YOU KNOW, WE HAVE OVER 280 MILLION JUST SHORT TERM HORIZON ON OVERALL INFRASTRUCTURE. BUT AS YOU LOOK AT THE MULTI BASIN ASSESSMENT, IT COMES IN AT WELL OVER 600 MILLION. SO THIS IS PUTTING A LONG TERM FUNDING MECHANISM IN PLACE. AND AS WE BEGIN TO DESIGN THE ITEMS THAT YOU'VE ALREADY BUDGETED FOR AND THIS YEAR'S BUDGET, IT PUTS A FUNDING MECHANISM THAT WILL THAT WILL, YOU KNOW, SET US UP TO BE IN POSITION TO SUCCESSFULLY COMPLETE THE PROJECTS ONCE THEY'RE DESIGNED AND BID. SO WITH THAT, I'M ASKING FOR YOUR APPROVAL TO INSTITUTE A FOUR YEAR PHASED IN INCREASE TO GENERATE THOSE REVENUES. AND I WOULD APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT. SO THANK YOU. THAT'S ON BEHALF OF COUNCIL, MISS DOUGLAS AND DOCTOR GOMEZ. THANK YOU. ON BEHALF OF THE COMMUNITY. THANK YOU, MR. YOUNG. THIS COUNCIL SHOULD BE SO PROUD I DON'T PROUD ISN'T SOMETHING I USUALLY SAY, BUT SATISFIED THAT WE HAVE FULFILLED A MAJOR ACCOMPLISHMENT FOR THIS CITY THROUGH THE HELP OF OUR STAFF AND THE WILLINGNESS OF OUR COMMUNITY TO PAY THE INCREASE, AND FOR US TO FINALLY ACCOMPLISH INFRASTRUCTURE THAT IS WELL OVERDUE AND IN NEED OF UPGRADES AND CHANGES. AND THIS IS JUST THE BEGINNING. THIS IS A BIG TASK OF COORDINATION AND PROJECTS, AND I'M JUST VERY HUMBLED AND THANKFUL AND GRATEFUL THAT THIS IS HAPPENING FOR US. SO WITH THAT, I DO NOT HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT. DO I HAVE ANY DISCUSSION OR EMOTION? MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT WE APPROVE ITEM 15 A AN ORDINANCE AMENDING SECTION 30 DASH 336 STORMWATER MANAGEMENT UTILITY