7.A. An Ordinance for the Purpose of Amending Regulations Relating to Pier Location and Dimension Regulations in the R1-15A Residence District; Amending Section 56-93(C)(5), Piers and Boat Lifts, Siting and Dimensions, of Article III, Standards Applicable to Residential Districts, of Chapter 56, Supplemental Standards, and Section 58-121, Pier Location and Dimensions, of Chapter 58, Zoning, of the Code of Ordinances, City of Naples; Providing a Severability Clause; Providing a Repealer Provision; and Providing an Effective Date. (Erica Martin, Director of Planning)

[7.A. An Ordinance for the Purpose of Amending Regulations Relating to Pier Location and Dimension Regulations in the R1-15A Residence District; Amending Section 56-93(C)(5), Piers and Boat Lifts, Siting and Dimensions, of Article III, Standards Applicable to Residential Districts, of Chapter 56, Supplemental Standards, and Section 58-121, Pier Location and Dimensions, of Chapter 58, Zoning, of the Code of Ordinances, City of Naples; Providing a Severability Clause; Providing a Repealer Provision; and Providing an Effective Date. (Erica Martin, Director of Planning)]

YES, I DO, THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING THAT. SO UNDER STATE LAW, EVERY EVERY LOCAL GOVERNMENT IN FLORIDA HAS TO ADOPT A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS TO IMPLEMENT THAT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

IN ADDITION TO THAT, IT REQUIRES THEM. THIS IS SECTION CHAPTER 163 3174 SAYS THAT EVERY LOCAL GOVERNMENT MUST APPOINT WHAT'S CALLED A LOCAL PLANNING AGENCY. THERE'S ALSO A STATE PLANNING AGENCY AS WELL.

ONE OF THE ROLES OF THE LOCAL PLANNING AGENCY, WHICH IS ALSO THE PLANNING ADVISORY BOARD IS TO REVIEW LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS, LAND DEVELOPMENT CODES OR AMENDMENTS THERETO AND MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE GOVERNING BOARD AS TO THE CONSISTENCY OF THE PROPOSAL WITH THE ADOPTED COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. ET CETERA, ET CETERA. SO I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT THIS ITEM, SEVEN A, IS A LEGISLATIVE ITEM, NOT A QUASI JUDICIAL ITEM, AND THAT YOU'RE SITTING AS A LOCAL PLANNING AGENCY.

I WANT TO EMPHASIZE A COUPLE OTHER QUICK THINGS, TOO, IS THAT ALL OF YOU ALL ARE PUBLIC OFFICIALS.

YOU'VE BEEN SWORN IN, YOU'VE TAKEN YOUR OATHS.

I'M SURE YOU'VE SAT DOWN WITH THE CLERK AND THE CLERKS, PROBABLY THE CITY CLERKS PROBABLY TALKED TO YOU ABOUT PUBLIC RECORDS, SUNSHINE, LAW, ETHICS. AND YOU'VE PROBABLY TAKEN WATCHED THE VIDEO WITH THE COMMISSION ON ETHICS.

SO IT'S VERY IMPORTANT. ALSO CONFLICTS. SO IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT YOU CONDUCT ALL OF YOUR BUSINESS HERE YOU'RE IN THE SUNSHINE. BE VERY CAREFUL ABOUT PUBLIC RECORDS AS WELL.

POSTING ANYTHING ON THE INTERNET? SOME KIND OF FACEBOOK NEXT DOOR OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT THAT IS RELATED TO THE CITY.

OR AN ITEM THAT COMES ON TO YOUR AGENDA WOULD BE CONSIDERED A PUBLIC RECORD.

SO JUST BE MINDFUL OF ALL THAT. IF YOU HAVE ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS, YOU CAN ALWAYS CALL ME OR CALL MATTHEW OR TALK TO THE CITY CLERK AS WELL.

SO I JUST WANTED TO EMPHASIZE THAT YOU WILL HAVE THE SEVEN A IS A LEGISLATIVE ITEM.

AND THEN ALSO WHEN YOU GET TO THE THE CONSULTANTS WHO ARE GOING TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, YOU WILL ALSO BE SITTING AS THE LOCAL PLANNING AGENCY AT THAT TIME.

OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANDREW. YEAH. ITEM SEVEN, AN ORDINANCE FOR THE PURPOSE OF AMENDING REGULATIONS RELATING TO PIER LOCATION AND DIMENSION REGULATIONS IN THE R-1 15, A RESIDENCE DISTRICT AMENDING SECTION 5693 C5 PIERS AND BOAT LIFTS, CITING DIMENSIONS OF ARTICLE THREE STANDARDS APPLICABLE TO RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS OF CHAPTER 56.

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SUPPLEMENTAL STANDARDS AND ORDINANCES OF THE CITY OF NAPLES.

PROVIDING SEVERABILITY CLAUSE. PROVIDING A REPEAL OR PROVISION, AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

FIRST ITEM IS THE STAFF REPORT. YES. GOOD MORNING, ERICA MARTIN, PLANNING DIRECTOR.

YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU TODAY A TEXT AMENDMENT. AS ANDREW MENTIONED, THIS IS A LEGISLATIVE ITEM.

SO TEXT AMENDMENTS ARE INITIATED BY STAFF. BUT I WOULD JUST A LITTLE BACKGROUND ON THIS.

THIS THE PORT ROYAL ASSOCIATION ACTUALLY APPROACHED THE CITY REQUESTING THAT CHANGES BE MADE TO THEIR SPECIFIC DOCK REGULATIONS.

EACH NEIGHBORHOOD HAS THEIR OWN INDIVIDUAL DOCK REGULATIONS IN THE CITY.

AND SO PORT ROYAL HAS THEIR OWN. SO THE REGULATIONS THAT YOU LOOK AT TODAY ARE APPLICABLE ONLY TO THE PORT ROYAL NEIGHBORHOOD.

THEY ACTUALLY GO A STEP FURTHER. THEY HAVE A DOCK REVIEW CODE.

THEY REVIEW DOCKS ON WITHIN THEIR ASSOCIATION AS WELL.

SO THEY PROPOSED A NUMBER OF CHANGES TO THE REGULATIONS.

YOU HEARD THIS ITEM PREVIOUSLY AND ASKED THAT THE PETITIONER RETURN.

YOU HEARD THIS ITEM ON MAY 14TH AND ASKED THAT THEY RETURN WITH ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.

AND THAT INFORMATION THAT YOU REQUESTED WAS RELATED TO A SURVEY THAT WAS PROVIDED BY THE ASSOCIATION TO THE MEMBERS RELATED TO A NUMBER OF THINGS, BUT ALSO TO THE PROPOSED DOCK REGULATIONS. SO THEY'VE PROVIDED THAT BACKUP MATERIAL? NOTHING IN THE ORDINANCE HAS CHANGED FROM THE LAST TIME YOU SAW IT.

IT'S JUST A CHANGE TO THE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THAT WAS PROVIDED FOR YOU.

WITH RESPECT TO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE ORIGIN OF THE REQUEST OR HOW IT WAS DRAFTED, I WOULD REFER THAT TO THE PORT ROYAL ASSOCIATION.

I THINK THEY HAVE THEIR ATTORNEY HERE. THEY HAVE A MEMBER OF THEIR THEY HAVE JENNA FROM THE FROM THE ACTUAL PORT ROYAL ASSOCIATION.

AND THEN I THINK ALEX GARLAND, WHO HELPED DRAFT THOSE DOCK REGULATIONS.

SO YOU HAVE A NUMBER OF EXPERTS ON THEIR END WHO CAN ANSWER SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW THIS PROPOSAL CAME TO.

WOULD THE ASSOCIATION LIKE TO MAKE ANY PRESENTATION OR COMMENTS? MR. CHAIRMAN, MAY I ASK A QUESTION? YES. BEFORE WE START.

YES. GO AHEAD. JUST ONE QUESTION. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT THAT WE'RE CONSIDERING TODAY IS IDENTICAL TO THE ONE WE SAW IN MARCH.

I DID MAKE A CHANGE TO THE STAFF REPORT. THEY HAD A PREVIOUS VERSION, HAD REQUESTED A CHANGE TO THE LENGTH OF DOCKS.

THEY'VE TAKEN THAT OUT. SO NOW IT'S A CHANGE TO THE PROJECTION ONLY TO THE PROJECTION.

AND THEN THERE WERE SOME OTHER LANGUAGE CHANGES.

BUT THE MAJOR CHANGE BEFORE YOU TODAY IS EXTENDING THE ALLOWABLE PROJECTION OF A DOCK.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YES, SIR. GOOD MORNING. MY NAME'S CLAY BROOKER WITH THE LAW FIRM OF CHAFEE PASSIDOMO.

820 ONE FIFTH AVENUE SOUTH. WE ARE ASSISTING THE PORT ROYAL PROPERTY OWNERS ASSOCIATION WITH RESPECT TO THIS ITEM.

AS MISS MARTIN INDICATED, WE ARE NOT TECHNICALLY THE APPLICANT.

UNDER THE CITY'S CODE, ONLY THE STAFF CAN ACTUALLY APPLY FOR A TAX CHANGE.

BUT WE WERE THE IMPETUS. MY CLIENT WAS THE IMPETUS MAKING THE REQUEST FOR THIS CHANGE.

AND FOR THAT REASON, I'M STANDING AT THIS PODIUM RATHER THAN THE LEFT PODIUM AS AN APPLICANT.

SO I DON'T REALLY HAVE A PRESENTATION TO FORMAL PRESENTATION TO GIVE.

THE PROPOSAL IS PRECISELY THE SAME AS WHAT YOU SAW BACK IN MAY.

BACK THEN, THERE WERE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THE SURVEY.

IF YOU RECALL, I MENTIONED THE SURVEY INDICATED THAT THERE WERE 57% OF THE SURVEY RESPONDENTS IN FAVOR OF THE PROPOSAL BEFORE YOU TODAY.

AND THERE WERE QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW THAT SURVEY, WHAT WAS INVOLVED IN THAT SURVEY.

SO WE THE ASSOCIATION HAS PROVIDED THE STAFF WITH EVERYTHING WE HAVE.

THE ASSOCIATION HAS WITH RESPECT TO THAT SURVEY, WE PROVIDED IT TO MISS MARTIN AND THE PLANNING STAFF AND HAS BEEN INCLUDED IN YOUR STAFF MATERIALS. IN ADDITION TO A LETTER FROM THE PRESIDENT OF THE ASSOCIATION EXPLAINING HOW ALL OF THIS CAME ABOUT AND THE REASONS FOR IT.

SO WITH THAT, I'LL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

AND ALSO IN ATTENDANCE IS THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE ASSOCIATION, JENNA HEIDEMANN.

SHE CAN ANSWER ANY OTHER DETAILED QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE ABOUT THE PROCEDURE OF THE SURVEY, AS WELL AS MR. ALEX GARLAND, ONE OF THE DOCK EXPERTS IN THE CITY, THAT WAS CONSULTED IN DETERMINING THE DETAILS OF THE PROPOSAL BEFORE YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OF THE PRESENTER AT THIS POINT IN TIME OR OF THE ASSOCIATION? JUST A THANK YOU FOR SUPPLYING, STEVE. THANK YOU FOR SUPPLYING THE COMMENTS AND REMARKS.

YOU'RE WELCOME. I APPRECIATE THAT. SURE. YOU'RE WELCOME. THANK YOU.

IS THERE ANYONE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO THE ORDINANCE? MR. CHAIRMAN, I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION OF THE DOCK EXPERT, IF I MAY.

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GOOD MORNING. ALEX GARLAND WITH GARLAND AND GARLAND, MARINE CONSTRUCTION. JUST PROBABLY JUST MERELY CURIOSITY.

BUT CAN YOU TELL ME, IS THERE ANY ANY LEEWAY IN HOW WHEN YOU CONSTRUCT THE THE RIPRAP, HOW FAR THE TOE CAN GO OUT? CAN IT GO STRAIGHT UP AND DOWN, OR CAN IT OR CAN YOU JUST EXPLAIN HOW THAT WORKS FOR ME, PLEASE? YEAH. SO, YEAH, ACTUALLY, THERE'S A LOT OF REGULATIONS ON THE RIPRAP.

IT'S REALLY PROTECTED. SO WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO RELOCATE THE BASE OF THE RIPRAP.

REPENT. SO PRIOR TO PRIOR TO APPLYING FOR A PERMIT, WE HAVE A SURVEYOR LOCATE THE TOE OF THE EXISTING RIPRAP AND THAT HAS TO REMAIN THE SAME. SO WHEN WE'RE DONE WITH THE PROJECT, OUR FINISH, OUR FINAL SURVEY HAS TO MATCH THE PRIOR THE BEFORE SURVEY.

SO WE WE THEY HAVE A SYSTEM OF CHECK AND BALANCE WHERE WE CANNOT RELOCATE THE BASE OF THE RIPRAP.

THEN AS FAR AS SLOPE 2 TO 1 SLOPE IS THE STEEPEST THAT WE CAN MAKE A RIPRAP.

SO FOR EVERY ONE FOOT UP IT HAS TO COME TWO FOOT BACK TOWARDS THE, TOWARDS THE HOUSE.

SO AND THEN THERE'S REGULATIONS TO HOW HIGH A RIPRAP CAN BE, YOU KNOW, A MAXIMUM ELEVATION AND THAT, THAT WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A, OF A AREA OF ADJUSTMENT IN THAT BECAUSE ON NAPLES BAY AND ON LIKE GORDON PASS RIP RAPS USUALLY HIGHER FOR MORE PROTECTION THAN IT IS ON THE BACK INLAND WATERWAYS.

AND JUST TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT. THAT'S REALLY HELPFUL TO ME. AND IF YOU'RE CONSTRUCTING A NEW RACK DOES IT ALSO HAVE THOSE SAME YOU KNOW, RESTRICTIONS AND AND PHYSICAL CHARACTERISTICS? YEAH. AND NEW RAMPS, KIND OF A I DON'T EVEN THINK THERE ARE ANY LOTS IN PORT ROYAL THAT REQUIRE NEW RIPRAP. YOU KNOW, IT WAS ALL PRETTY MUCH ESTABLISHED BACK IN THE DAY.

AND BUT THEY'RE VERY THEY'RE VERY STRICT. THE CITY OF NAPLES BUILDING DEPARTMENT AND PORT ROYAL ARE VERY STRICT AS FAR AS WHAT THEY ALLOW.

THEY THEY LOOK AT IT VERY RIGOROUSLY. WELL. THANK YOU.

THAT'S THAT'S REALLY HELPFUL TO ME. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. DON'T WALK AWAY.

A QUESTION ON THE MEASUREMENT FROM THE RIPRAP. YES.

WHERE DO YOU TAKE THE MEASUREMENT FOR PROTRUSION OUT FROM THE AND THE THE FURTHEST POINT OUT FROM THE END.

IF THERE'S A LARGE STONE AT THE END, WOULD IT BE FROM THERE OR FROM THE CENTER? WHERE IS THE MEASUREMENT TAKEN GOING OUT? NO, WE DON'T GO FROM THE ROCK FURTHEST OUT.

THE SURVEYORS CHECK US ALL OUT. AND BASICALLY THERE'S BASICALLY AN ESTABLISHED TOW LINE.

SO NO, THEY DON'T ALLOW US TO BE AGGRESSIVE LIKE THAT AS FAR AS TO TAKE THE, THE FARTHEST ROCK OUT.

SO THERE'S, THERE'S TYPICALLY A, AN ESTABLISHED LINE NOW BECAUSE OF THE SHAPE OF THE SHORELINES IN PORT ROYAL, YOU KNOW, THEY SOME ARE CONCAVE, SOME BOW OUT, SOME ARE STRAIGHT.

SO THE RULES ADDRESS THE PROTRUSION OF THE DOCK.

SO BUT THE, THE, THE CURRENT 22 FOOT PROTRUSION LINE STARTS FROM THE BASE OF THE RIPRAP.

THE BASE. YEAH. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANYONE IN OPPOSITION? OKAY.

ANY COMMENTS BY BOARD MEMBERS? A COUPLE OF THOUGHTS.

IN CONVERSATIONS WITH RESIDENTS OF PORT ROYAL IT WAS BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION THAT A NUMBER OF THE CANALS DIFFER, SIZE WISE, WIDTH WISE, FROM EACH OTHER. THERE ARE SOME WITH SIGNIFICANTLY WIDER CANALS, SOME WITH SUBSTANTIALLY MORE NARROW CANALS.

SO IF WE MAKE A RULE THAT APPLIES TO EVERY SINGLE CANAL, I WOULD THINK THAT IT WOULD BE DIFFICULT TO ASCRIBE THOSE CHANGES IN FEET TO SOME OF THE MORE NARROW CANALS.

AND IT'S DIFFICULT FOR US HERE PHYSICALLY SITTING AT THIS DESK UP HERE TO ASSESS AND VISUALLY VIEW.

AND SOME OF THESE THESE RESIDENTS ARE NOT OFFICIAL CAPTAINS WITH ALL THE TRAINING THAT THEY NEED.

SO I WOULD THINK THAT VISUALLY, FROM AT LEAST MY PERSPECTIVE MAYBE A VISIT TO PORT ROYAL TO ASSESS THE WIDTHS OF ALL THE DIFFERENT CANALS AND HOW EACH OF THESE THREE FOOT EXTENSIONS. IF YOU HAVE THREE ON ONE SIDE, THREE ON THE OTHER, THAT'S SIX FEET. YOU'RE CONSTRICTING THE WIDTH OF EACH OF THESE CANALS SIGNIFICANTLY IN SOME RESPECTS TO THE NARROWER CANALS.

THE BIG BOYS THAT MY PEJORATIVE. THE LARGER CANAL AREAS CAN ABSORB THIS EASILY, BUT MANY OF THE OTHERS MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO. SO I WOULD CAUTION US ON ON THAT. OKAY. JUST A QUICK COMMENT ON MY PART.

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YOU KNOW, IT'S REALLY UP TO THE PLANNING US TO DIRECT THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT TO DO STUDIES, NOT FOR US TO GO OUT AND DO THOSE OURSELVES. AND I UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERNS THAT THERE'S A WITH THE CANAL, BUT WE DO HAVE EXISTING REGULATIONS IN EXISTENCE, AND THEY'VE CARRIED US THIS FAR, AND THERE'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE EXCEPTIONS.

AND THEN IF SOMEBODY NEEDS A VARIANCE, THEY CAN APPLY IF THEY'VE GOT AN UNUSUAL HARDSHIP ON THAT.

I AGREE THAT YOU DON'T WANT TO BE CLOSING DOWN THE CANALS, BUT I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY EVIDENCE OR HEARD ANY TESTIMONY TO THAT EFFECT.

BUT IT'S HERE NOW AND THEY'RE ASKING FOR MORE SPACE NOW.

SO I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYBODY STEP UP FROM THE PUBLIC AND SAY, WE'VE GOT A PROBLEM WITH SUPER NARROW CANALS.

AND YOU MAY HAVE TALKED TO AND REMEMBER WE HAVE A.

A DISCLOSURE REQUIREMENT. SO JUST, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION ON IS THE EVIDENCE BEFORE US HERE TODAY.

YOU HAVE A COMMENT, SIR? YEAH. SO IN THE EXISTING RULES THEY ADDRESS THIS AND THAT'S CARRIED OVER TO THE NEW PROTRUSION REQUEST. SO THE RULES STATE THAT IT'S 22 FOOT FROM THE BASE OF A PROTRUSION, NOT TO EXCEED 25% OF THE WIDTH OF THE WATERWAY.

THERE ARE ACTUALLY 1 OR 2 NARROW WATERWAYS RIGHT NOW WHERE EVEN THE EVEN.

THE 22 FOOT IS RESTRICTED WHERE WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO GO OUT THE FULL 22 FOOT.

SO THE THE ADDITIONAL PROTRUSION REQUEST IS ONLY REALLY TAKING INTO ACCOUNT THE LARGER, WIDER WATERWAYS.

AND IN THAT IN THAT VEIN, AT THE END OF EACH OF THESE CANALS IS A TURNAROUND.

YES. AND THEY'RE ALL CIRCUMFERENCE. HOW WOULD THAT BE IMPACTED BY THESE DOCKS GOING OUT FURTHER? WOULD THEY ANY SLICE INTO EACH OTHER? THOSE THOSE TURNAROUNDS ARE PRETTY WIDE.

THEY'RE VERY BULBOUS. THE REQUEST TO GO FROM 22 TO 25 FOOT, A THREE FOOT PROTRUSION REALLY ISN'T GOING TO AFFECT THOSE.

THERE'S REALLY THERE'S THERE'S ONE NARROW AREA AT THE EAST END OF ADMIRALTY PARADE WHERE YOU COME IN ON THE BACK SIDE. THAT'S VERY NARROW, BUT ONCE AGAIN, THAT'S ALREADY ADDRESSED IN IT.

SO NO MATTER WHAT, THEY CAN'T EXCEED 25% WITH WATERWAY, WHICH IS A CITY OF NAPLES STANDARD GUIDELINE FOR ALL THE NEIGHBORHOODS.

WHEN ERICA MENTIONED THAT DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOODS HAVE DIFFERENT DOCK RULES.

SO THIS IS THE STANDARD FOR AQUA PARK SHORE MOORINGS.

ALL THESE NEIGHBORHOODS HAVE A NOT TO EXCEED 25% OF THE WIDTH OF THE WATERWAY PROVISION, WHICH LEAVES OVER HALF OF THE WATERWAY OPEN FOR FOR NAVIGATION. THANK YOU FOR THOSE COMMENTS.

AND I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION PERTAINING TO THAT. IT SAYS REASONABLE SIZED BOAT, A REASONABLE SIZED BOAT, WHICH I BROUGHT UP LAST TIME. FOR SOME FOLKS IN PORT ROYAL, THAT COULD BE A BOSTON WHALER.

IT COULD BE A 75 FOOTER, IT COULD BE THE USS NIMITZ AIRCRAFT CARRIER, BECAUSE SOMEBODY WOULD BE ABLE TO THINK THAT'S REASONABLE.

SO I WOULD LIKE FURTHER CLARIFICATION AS TO WHAT IS A REASONABLE SIZED BOAT.

THANK YOU. AND THAT'S IF YOU WANT TO COMMENT ON THAT.

AND WE'LL ASK THE PLANNING STAFF TO COMMENT ON THAT.

I'LL ASK PLANNING STAFF TO COMMENT. I THINK REASONABLE SIZE BOAT.

WE HAVE REGULATIONS ALL OVER IN THE DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOODS.

THE SMALLER NEIGHBORHOODS HAVE REGULATIONS THAT REQUIRE SMALLER BOATS AND THE LARGER NEIGHBORHOODS WITH LARGER AND BY LARGER NEIGHBORHOOD I MEAN WITH LARGER PROPERTIES ALLOW FOR LARGER BOATS. SO I THINK IT'S IT'S A SLIDING SCALE DEPENDING ON THE PROPERTY THAT YOU, THAT YOU BUY. YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT REASONABLE TO HAVE 100 FOOT BOAT IF YOU HAVE 50FT OF WATERFRONT, BUT PORT ROYAL HAS SOME OF THE LARGER WATERFRONTS IN THE CITY AND A LOT OF PROPERTIES FACING NAPLES BAY.

SO I THINK THIS IS THE NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE YOU EXPECT TO SEE THE LARGER BOATS.

AND AS LONG AS WE MAINTAIN THE 50 FOOT SO THAT THAT 50% CLEAR CHANNEL IS A NAVIGATIONAL STANDARD.

SO WE REQUIRE THAT IN ALL NEIGHBORHOODS. SO WHAT HE'S SAYING THAT YOU'RE ONLY ALLOWED TO TAKE EACH PROPERTY IS ONLY ALLOWED 25% OF THE WIDTH OF THE WATERWAY. AND THAT'S TO MAINTAIN THAT 50% CLEAR DOWN THE MIDDLE FOR NAVIGATION.

SO I THINK AS LONG AS YOU'RE MAINTAINING THE SETBACKS, THE SIDE SETBACKS REQUIRED AND THAT PROTRUSION, I THINK A REASONABLE BOAT IS WHAT WHAT FITS ON THAT PROPERTY.

THANK YOU. THERE'S ANOTHER QUESTION THAT PERTAINS TO THE DOCK SIZE.

THERE WAS AN ISSUE. IF I THINK IT WAS PROPERTY LINE OR LOT LINE, THERE WERE CHANGES TO THAT LANGUAGE.

CAN I ASK WHY? SO THAT IS THAT IS BECOMING CONSISTENT WITH THE WAY THAT THAT IS DEFINED IN THE CHAPTER 5693, WHICH IS OUR REGULAR STANDARDS, WHICH SAYS THAT THE SIDE SETBACK IS MEASURED FROM THE WATER WORD EXTENSION OF THE PROPERTY LINE.

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SO IF YOU TAKE THE SIDE PROPERTY LINES ON YOUR PROPERTY AND EXTEND THEM OUT INTO THE WATER, THAT'S WHERE WE MEASURE THAT SIDE SETBACK FROM. THEN WHAT WAS THE REASON FOR THE TERM LOT VERSUS PROPERTY THAT YOU WOULD HAVE TO ASK THEM? OH YEAH. CLAY. THAT WAS THEIR PROPOSAL. THANK YOU SIR.

CLAY BROOKER AGAIN FOR THE RECORD. THE THE IDEA THERE WAS JUST FOR CONSISTENCY.

SO WHENEVER YOU'RE DEALING WITH A PROPERTY OR A LOT LINE, WHICH IN MY MIND, UNLESS SOMEONE CAN TELL ME OTHERWISE, THEY'RE SYNONYMOUS. SO I WAS JUST TRYING TO BE USING THE SAME TERMINOLOGY THROUGHOUT THE ORDINANCE.

A LOT LINE IN MY MIND REFERS TO WHAT WHAT THE PLAT SHOWS AS YOUR LOT LINE.

PROPERTY IS A LITTLE BIT MORE IN MY AS I VIEW IT, JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE OF AN AMORPHOUS TERM, BUT IT'S NOT A IT'S I'LL LEAVE IT TO THE DEFERENCE OF I'LL DEFER TO THE PLANNING ADVISORY BOARD, WHETHER YOU WANT TO USE PROPERTY OR LOT IN MY MIND IS AN IMMATERIAL DIFFERENCE.

I WOULD ADD TO THAT THE THE PARCEL OF LAND ON WHICH YOU CAN BUILD IS DEFINED IN OUR CODE AS LOT.

IT'S REFERRED TO AS A LOT. SO THAT IS JUST FOR CONSISTENCY.

ESSENTIALLY THAT MAKES SENSE TO ME. AND HOW DOES THAT DEAL WITH MULTIPLE LOTS SIDE BY SIDE.

SO THE DEFINITION OF LOT IN YOUR CODE SORRY LOT A LOT IS A LAWFUL BUILDING SITE.

SUCH BUILDING SITE MAY CONSIST OF ALL PORTIONS OR COMBINATIONS OF LAND PARCELS DESCRIBED BY METES AND BOUNDS OR LOTS, AS SHOWN ON A SUBDIVISION PLAT. SO A BUILDABLE LOT IS NOT A BUILDABLE LOT.

COULD BE LOTS THREE, FOUR AND FIVE OF THE PORT ROYAL PLAT THAT HAVE BEEN COMBINED TO CREATE ONE BUILDABLE LOT.

SO THERE'S PLATTED LOTS, AND THEN THERE'S YOUR BUILDABLE LOT, AND THEN THERE'S STILL CONSTRICTED BY 100FT IS THE MAXIMUM LENGTH OF EACH ANY.

YEAH. SO THE. YES. AND THEN THERE'S IN PORT ROYAL AND IN EACH NEIGHBORHOOD THERE ARE STANDARDS ON THE MINIMUM LOT SIZE AREA AND MINIMUM WIDTH OF A BUILDABLE LOT. SO YOU COULD NEVER CREATE A LOT THAT IS SMALLER THAN THE MINIMUM LOT SIZE REQUIRED FOR THAT DISTRICT.

THANK YOU KYLIE. THANK YOU ERICA. YOU HAD ANDREW HAD A COMMENT.

AND THEN MY COMMENT RELATES TO THE SURVEY ITSELF.

AND THEN I ALSO HAVE A QUESTION WHICH I THINK COULD BE EASILY CONFIRMED, AND IT COVERS ONE OF MY COLLEAGUES POINTS ABOUT THE 25% PROTRUSION IS THAT FROM THE OUTSIDE OF A VESSEL, 2,525%, AS WE MEASURE IT, IS 25% OF THE WIDTH OF THE WATERWAY.

AND WATERWAY IS DEFINED AS SHORELINE TO SHORELINE.

SO THAT IS NOT TAKEN FROM THE TOE OF THE RIPRAP THAT'S TAKEN FROM WHAT IS IN THE RIPRAP CASE, MEAN HIGH WATER LINE. SO WHERE THE WATER HITS THE SHORE ON EITHER SIDE, THAT'S THE WIDTH OF YOUR WATERWAY.

AND THE 25% THAT IS THE THE THE FURTHEST VESSEL COULD PROTRUDE.

RIGHT. AND THEN COMING BACK TO THE SURVEY MY CONCERN IS THE BECAUSE MY BACKGROUND IS RELATING TO SURVEYS.

IS THAT THE STRUCTURE OF THE SURVEY, THE INFORMATION AND THE INTERPRETATION OF THE DATA OF THE SURVEY? A COUPLE OF POINTS, WHICH I JUST WANT TO MAKE A COUPLE OF POINTS FOR PEOPLE TO CONSIDER IS ON QUESTION 14, WHICH IS THE HIGHEST PERCENTAGE SCORING SAYS THAT 62% OF RESIDENTS OF PORT ROYAL WANT TO ENSURE ADHERENCE TO CURRENT RULES AND REGULATIONS. NOT NEW RULES AND REGULATIONS.

THAT WAS THE HIGHEST SCORING POINT. THE DOT FROM PRIORITY WAS MARKED DOWN BELOW THREE OUT OF SIX.

QUESTION NUMBER NINE ALSO OF THE SURVEY WHICH RELATES TO THE DOCK.

THERE ARE COMMENTS. THERE ARE NO COMMENTS WHICH RELATE TO PEOPLE REQUESTING A LARGER DOCK SIZE, ETC. IN THE WRITTEN COMMENTS, BUT THERE ARE SOME COMMENTS IN THE WRITTEN COMMENTS OF CONCERN OVER BLOCKAGE OF VIEW OF A PROPERTY OWNER SHOULD TWO VESSELS. SO I'M NOT QUESTIONING MY ANY AND IT DOESN'T TELL ME HOW MANY SURVEYS WENT OUT, WHAT THE PERCENTAGE RESPONSE IS.

SO WHILST YOU MAY HAVE THESE 43%, 57% IS THAT OF 2% OF THE POPULATION OR IS IT 100% OF THE POPULATION? SO MY CONCERN IS THAT THE SURVEY DATA AND THE INTERPRETATION SURVEY DATA IS NOT REASONABLE.

BUT THAT IS JUST MY COMMENT ABOUT THE SURVEY INTERPRETATION, NOT THE APPLICATION OF THE CLAIM.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. OKAY. ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? I'M GOING TO, YOU KNOW, POINT AND REMIND PEOPLE THIS IS THE SECOND EFFORT TO GET THIS DONE.

DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AMENDMENT TO THE THE NEW ORDINANCE? YES. NO, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE ORDINANCE.

IS THERE A SECOND? OKAY. DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.

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OKAY, SECOND. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? THE ADVANTAGES, EITHER WITH A YES OR A NO OF THIS IS AT LEAST THERE'S A VOTE, AND THEY GET TO TAKE IT TO THE CITY COUNCIL. I CERTAINLY DON'T WANT TO BE IN A POSITION OF FURTHER DELAYING THIS FROM THAT DISCUSSION POINT.

THAT'S MY VIEW AS WELL. I DON'T WANT TO DELAY ANYTHING.

I THINK WE SHOULD, AND THERE'S NO MORE INFORMATION TO BE GATHERED TO ENABLE US TO MAKE A BETTER DECISION.

I THINK WE'VE GOT EVERYTHING WE NEED TO MAKE A DECISION, SO LET'S MOVE ON.

OKAY, SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND WITH THE CLERK.

CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE. MEMBER MAYOR. NO. MEMBER.

BARONE. YES. MEMBER. FOWLER. YES. MEMBER. SCHULTZ.

YES. MEMBER. CREASE. NO. VICE CHAIR. KAPPLER.

YES. CHAIR. COUGHLAN. YES. SO THE MOTION IS CARRIED AND THE COMMENTS MADE BY EVERYBODY WILL ALSO GO TO THE CITY COUNCIL, AND THEY CAN DEAL WITH THIS PARTICULAR MATTER.

THE NEXT ITEM IS SEVEN BE CORRECT. A RESOLUTION DETERMINING A MODIFICATION TO THE PLANS APPROVED WITH CONDITIONAL USE PETITION

[7.B. A Resolution Determining a Modification to the Plans Approved with Conditional Use Petition 24-CU5, Pursuant to Section 46-34 and Section 58-833 of the Code of Ordinances, City of Naples, Amending Resolution 2024-15421 Which Granted a Conditional Use Approval Allowing a Private Beach Club in the PS, Public Service District for the Port Royal Club on Property Located at 2900 and 2755 Gordon Drive, More Fully Described Herein; and Providing an Effective Date. (Erica Martin, Director of Planning)]

20 4-Q5 PURSUANT TO SECTION 4634 AND SECTION 50 8-833 OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES, CITY OF NAPLES AMENDING RESOLUTION 20 2024 DASH 15 421, WHICH GRANTED A CONDITIONAL USE APPROVAL ALLOWING A PRIVATE BEACH CLUB IN THE PS PUBLIC SERVICE DISTRICT FOR THE PORT ROYAL CLUB ON PROPERTY LOCATED AT 2927 55 GORDON DRIVE. MORE FULLY DESCRIBED HEREIN AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

STAFF REPORT. OR WOULD YOU SWEAR ANYBODY? THAT'S RIGHT.

JUDICIAL. DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU'RE ABOUT TO GIVE IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? YES. THANK YOU. IN ANY EX-PARTE DISCLOSURES AS WELL.

ALL RIGHT. ANYONE HAVE ANY DISCLOSURES STARTING AT THE FAR END? MIKE? NO. NOTHING FURTHER TO DISCLOSE FROM LAST HEARING.

NOTHING TO DISCLOSE. NOTHING TO DISCLOSE. NOTHING TO DISCLOSE.

AWARE OF THE PROPERTY? NOTHING TO DISCLOSE. I VISITED THE PROPERTY AND HAD A TOUR.

NOTHING TO DISCLOSE. BESIDES THAT, I VISITED THE PROPERTY WITH PARTICULAR INTEREST AT THE ENTRANCE FOR THE PORT ROYAL CLUB AND THE BIKE LANES. AND I WANTED TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE BIKE LANES AND THAT WAS MY INTEREST.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. EXCUSE ME. EXCUSE ME. IS DOCTOR GEORGE AVAILABLE? IS HE IN THE BUILDING? WOULD HE BE ABLE TO GET HERE? THANK YOU. YEAH. EXCUSE ME. THAT'S RIGHT. YOUR PRESENTATION FIRST, PLEASE.

ALL RIGHT. WELL. GOOD MORNING. ALL MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING ADVISORY BOARD.

MY NAME IS TIM MCCARTHY. I'M A PARTNER AND MANAGING PRINCIPAL OF HART HORTON, AN INTERDISCIPLINARY DESIGN FIRM WITH OFFICES IN SAN FRANCISCO AND NEW YORK.

I'M A FLORIDA LICENSED ARCHITECT. MY CV IS ON FILE, HAVING TESTIFIED BEFORE THIS BOARD AND SEVERAL OTHER CITY BOARDS OVER THE YEARS.

AND I AM REGISTERED WITH THE ETHICS COMMISSION ON AUGUST 21ST OF LAST YEAR, 2020 FOR NAPLES CITY COUNCIL ADOPTED RESOLUTION 2020 4-15421, WHICH GRANTED CONDITIONAL USE APPROVAL UNDER SECTION 4634 OF THE CITY OF NAPLES. CODE OF ORDINANCES FOR A PRIVATE BEACH CLUB IN THE PS PUBLIC SERVICE ZONING.

DISTRICT. AFTER THAT APPROVAL, THE PORT ROYAL CLUB CONTINUED WITH THE ENTITLEMENT AND PERMITTING PROCESS, OBTAINING FINAL DESIGN APPROVAL FROM THE CITY'S DRB, FINALIZING A COASTAL CONSTRUCTION CONTROL LINE PERMIT FROM THE STATE OF FLORIDA'S DEP, AND SECURING A COASTAL CONSTRUCTION SETBACK LINE PERMIT FROM THE CITY OF NAPLES.

BASED ON THOSE APPROVALS, THE CITY THEN ISSUED A BUILDING PERMIT FOR THE NEW CLUBHOUSE WELL UNDERWAY WITH ITS CONSTRUCTION TODAY.

DURING THE CONSTRUCTION PROCESS, THE CLUB HAS CONTINUED TO WORK WITH CITY STAFF, ME AND MY CONSULTANT TEAM TO OPTIMIZE THEIR INVESTMENT IN THIS NEW BEACHFRONT FACILITY. ALONG THE WAY, AN OPPORTUNITY AROSE FOR THE FOLLOWING MINOR IMPROVEMENTS.

NUMBER ONE, CONSISTENT WITH THE CLUB'S ABUTTING NEIGHBORS TO INCREASE THE ELEVATION OF THE EXISTING SEAWALL ON SITE TODAY FROM ITS CURRENT ELEVATION OF

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PLUS 5.3FT AND SAVED TO A NEW ELEVATION OF PLUS EIGHT FEET TO IMPROVE CLUB RESILIENCY IN THE FACE OF FUTURE CATASTROPHIC STORM EVENTS. NUMBER TWO, TO RELOCATE THE ACCESSIBLE POOL CHAIRLIFT FROM THE NORTH EDGE TO THE SOUTH EDGE OF THE POOL TO COMPLY WITH APPLICABLE BUILDING CODES AND ITS REFERENCE STANDARDS.

NUMBER THREE, DUE TO THEIR DEMOLITION DURING THE COURSE OF CONSTRUCTION TO REDESIGN THEN REBUILD THE ENTRY GATE WITH SLIDING GATES RATHER THAN SWINGING GATES.

AND LASTLY, NUMBER FOUR TO ENHANCE THE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT SYSTEM WITH ADDITIONAL STORMWATER VAULTS TO EXCEED THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE CITY'S STORMWATER MANAGEMENT ORDINANCE. BECAUSE THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED SITE AND CIVIL PLANS IN 2024 ARE EXPRESSLY AND SPECIFICALLY REFERENCED IN THE CONDITIONAL USE RESOLUTION, AND BECAUSE REVISIONS TO THOSE REFERENCED PLANS ARE REQUIRED TO REFLECT TODAY'S PROPOSED MINOR IMPROVEMENTS, THE CITY'S PLANNING STAFF ADVISED US THAT THE 2024 RESOLUTION MUST NOW BE AMENDED TO REFER TO TODAY'S PROPOSED AND DATED PLANS. NONE OF TODAY'S PROPOSED MINOR AMENDMENTS IMPLICATE, OR IN ANY WAY RELATE TO THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL LISTED IN THE CITY COUNCIL RESOLUTION. THEY SHALL REMAIN UNCHANGED.

TODAY'S CHANGES HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED TO CITY STAFF AND DETERMINED CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY'S LAND USE CODE.

A SUFFICIENCY LETTER HAS BEEN ISSUED FOR ORIENTATION PURPOSES.

I'M GOING TO START WITH JUST A QUICK SITE OVERVIEW TO REMIND EVERYONE OF WHERE WE WERE IN 2024.

ON THE LEFT AND WHERE WE ARE TODAY. THESE TWO IMAGES REFLECT BOTH INCARNATIONS OF THE DESIGN LABELS FOR TODAY'S PROPOSED CHANGES ARE INDICATED ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE.

BUT INSTEAD OF SPEAKING SPECIFICALLY TO THIS SLIDE, THE SLIDES THAT FOLLOW ENLARGE AND FOCUS ON EACH OF THESE FOUR INDIVIDUAL TOPICS.

FIRSTLY, CONSISTENT WITH THE RELEVANT GOALS, OBJECTIVES AND POLICIES OF THE NAPLES COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, INCLUDING ITS VISION, THE CLUB IS SEEKING TO ENHANCE RESILIENCY TO PRESERVE THE LONG TERM INVESTMENT OF PROPERTY OWNERS.

ON SCREEN IS AN AERIAL RENDERING OF THE BEACHFRONT PLUS A SITE PLAN DIRECTLY BELOW IT.

EACH IMAGE IS REFLECTING THE SAME PROPERTIES.

NORTH TO THE LEFT HAND SIDE OF THE IMAGE AND SOUTH TO THE RIGHT OF THE PORT ROYAL CLUB, WITH THE CLUB'S BEACHFRONT BUILDING IN THE CENTER OF THE IMAGE.

TO THE CLUB'S SOUTH. TO THE RIGHT THE RIGHT. THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTY RECENTLY BEGAN RECONSTRUCTION OF HIS SEAWALL UNDER HIS OWN DEP PERMIT TO THE CLUB'S NORTH. IMMEDIATELY ABUTTING NEIGHBOR HAS SECURED STATE APPROVALS AND IS PLANNING TO REBUILD HIS SEAWALL IMMEDIATELY TO THE NORTH OF THAT AT 2790. GORDON, AS YOU CONTINUE TO THE LEFT OF THE PAGE.

THEY HAVE COMPLETED THEIR SEAWALL RECONSTRUCTION.

THE DRAWING CONTINUES EVEN FURTHER TO THE LEFT, WHERE TWO ADDITIONAL LOTS HAVE ALREADY SECURED THEIR APPROVALS AND PLAN TO REBUILD THEIR RESPECTIVE SEAWALLS AT ELEVATION PLUS EIGHT. NAVEED.

TO THE MATTER AT HAND, THIS PAGE IS AN ENLARGEMENT OF THE CLUB'S DESIGN, ILLUSTRATING OUR INTENTION TO BUILD IMMEDIATELY BEHIND THE EXISTING SEAWALL INDICATED IN GRAY, AND TO DO SO ENTIRELY ON OUR PRIVATE PROPERTY.

THE RED OUTLINE ON THE LOWER DRAWING SHOWS HOW THE NEW SEAWALL WILL MIRROR THE EXISTING FORM AND SHAPE OF THE EXISTING SEAWALL.

THIS PAGE AND THE SHEET THAT FOLLOWS PUTS THE SEAWALL RECONSTRUCTION IN CONTEXT.

THIS IS A SECTION CUT AT THE SOUTH END OF THE CLUB'S SITE, WITH THE GULF ON THE LEFT.

GORDON DRIVE TO THE RIGHT, FAR OFF SCREEN. THIS SECTION, CUT AT THE POOL AREA WILL NOW HAVE A SEAWALL SEPARATING THE DUNE.

RESTORATION. PLANTING ON THE BEACH SIDE FROM THE POOL DECK ON THE CLUB SIDE.

SLIGHTLY FARTHER NORTH. THIS IS A SECTION AT THE EVENT LAWN.

UNLIKE THE POOL DECK, WHERE THE POOL PAVING WILL ABUT THE BACKSIDE OF THE WALL HERE AT THE EVENT LAWN, A PLANTING BED IS PROVIDED JUST INSIDE THE WALL TO ALLOW VEGETATION TO CONCEAL THE VERTICAL FACE OF THE NEW WALL.

THIS ENLARGEMENT DRAWING AT THE POOL DECK ILLUSTRATES HOW A NEW SHEET PILE IN THE IN.

THE DRAWING ON THE RIGHT WILL BE INSERTED DIRECTLY BEHIND THE EXISTING SEAWALL, AND A NEW CONCRETE BEAM WILL BE POURED ON TOP OF BOTH TO UNIFY

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THE TWO WALLS. AND THIS SECTION SLIGHTLY FURTHER NORTH REFLECTS THE SAME ASSEMBLY AT THE EVENT LAWN.

AS TO THE SECOND MATTER AT HAND, THE ACCESSIBLE POOL LIFT ON THE LEFT HAND DRAWING THE LIFT WAS INDICATED AT APPROXIMATELY THE MIDWAY POINT OF THE POOL'S NORTH EDGE. THIS EAST WEST LOCATION IS ACTUALLY THE DEEPEST POINT OF THE POOL, AND THEREFORE THE WATER IS IN EXCESS OF THE ALLOWABLE WATER DEPTH AT THIS PROPOSED LIFT LOCATION. THE BALANCE OF THE POOL'S NORTH SIDE IS FAIRLY CONSTRAINED BY THE SHAPE OF THE POOLS AND THE SURROUNDING PLANTING BEDS. THE SOUTH SIDE THEREFORE OFFERED MORE FLEXIBILITY TO MOVE THE LIFT FURTHER TO THE EAST, IN OTHER WORDS, HIGHER UP THE SLOPING BOTTOM OF THE POOL.

DURING THE COURSE OF CONSTRUCTION, THE LARGE FLATBED TRUCKS DELIVERING MATERIALS TO THE SITE REQUIRED REMOVAL OF THE OLD PIERS, ENTRY FENCES AND SWINGING GATES. TODAY'S AMENDED DRAWINGS SHOW THE LOCATION OF WHERE THOSE OLD PIERS, FENCES AND GATES WILL BE REBUILT IN THEIR PRIOR LOCATION.

THE NEW DESIGN, SHOWN HERE ON THE BOTTOM, WILL BE CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY'S CODE OF ORDINANCES, WHEREBY THE GATEPOSTS CAN BE UP TO TWO FEET FOUR INCHES WIDE BY ORDINANCE AND UP TO SIX INCHES TALLER THAN THE SIX FOOT TALL SLIDING GATE.

THE GATE WILL BE SLIDING INSTEAD OF THE OLD HINGED AND SWINGING GATE DESIGN.

AND FINALLY, STORMWATER ENHANCEMENTS CONSISTENT WITH THE RELEVANT GOALS, OBJECTIVES AND POLICIES OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

THE CLUB IS SEEKING TO, QUOTE, IMPROVE WATER QUALITY AND MITIGATE THE IMPACT OF WATER QUANTITY ON CITY SYSTEMS. ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE IS THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED DESIGN, INCLUSIVE OF 85 STORMWATER STORAGE UNITS THREE FEET TALL UNDERNEATH THE PARKING LOT PAVING. THE HISTORIC CLUBHOUSE HAD NO STORMWATER MANAGEMENT SYSTEM ON THE DECADES OLD PROPERTY.

OUR NEW CONSTRUCTION PROPOSAL IN 2024 WAS DUE TO DRASTICALLY IMPROVE THAT CONDITION.

ON THE LEFT HAND DRAWING ON THE RIGHT, HOWEVER, IS OUR TODAY'S AMENDED STORMWATER DESIGN, APPROVED BY CITY STAFF AND FDEP. IN SHORT, THE PREVIOUSLY PROPOSED 85 STORAGE UNITS HAVE NOW NEARLY DOUBLED TO 162 STORAGE UNITS BELOW GRADE. IN SUMMARY, TODAY'S PROPOSED MINOR IMPROVEMENTS SUBMITTED UNDER THIS APPLICATION FOR AMENDING THE RESOLUTION WILL CONTINUE TO PROMOTE THE CITY OF NAPLES COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WHILE IMPROVING THE AMENITIES THAT HAVE EXISTED FOR CLUB MEMBERS IN THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY FOR DECADES. SHOULD YOU HAVE ANY SPECIFIC SEAWALL COASTAL ENGINEERING QUESTIONS TODAY, OR STORMWATER SPECIFIC QUESTIONS? OUR EXPERTS ARE AVAILABLE TO TESTIFY AT THE CONCLUSION OF THIS MORNING'S PROCEEDINGS.

AS A LICENSED ARCHITECT IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA, AND HAVING BEEN ACCEPTED AT THE BEGINNING OF TODAY'S TESTIMONY AS A QUALIFIED EXPERT, I WOULD RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL.

MR. CHAIRMAN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.

THANK YOU FOR AN EXCELLENT PRESENTATION, I APPRECIATE IT.

ARE THERE ANY FACTUAL CLARIFICATIONS VERSUS DISCUSSION THAT WE WANT TO ASK THE APPLICANT AT THIS POINT IN TIME, OR DO YOU WANT TO HEAR THE GET TO THE STAFF REPORT AND THEN HAVE YOUR QUESTIONS? OKAY. JUST JUST A SIMPLE QUESTION RELATING TO THE SEAWALL.

YES, SIR. MY QUESTION IS LOOKING FROM FROM PEOPLE ON THE WATER SIDE, IF YOU LIKE, AND OBSTRUCTION OF VIEW.

WHAT'S HAPPENING TO THE ANOTHER SEAWALL IS INCREASING.

WHAT'S HAPPENING TO THE DUNES? ARE THEY, IN OTHER WORDS, WILL THE PERSON BE MORE OBSCURED OR WILL THE DUNES SLOPE UP TOWARDS THAT? THE INTENTION IS THAT WE WE'VE ALWAYS INTENDED TO INCLUDE RESTORATIVE DUNE PLANTINGS IN OUR DESIGN PROPOSAL.

OUR LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT, O.P., WORKS EXTENSIVELY WITHIN THE PORT ROYAL COMMUNITY.

AND AND IS TRACKING THAT CONVERSATION SO THAT AFTER THE CONSTRUCTION CONCLUDES, WE'RE ABLE TO TO REPLANT THAT AND DISGUISE IT FOR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO ARE WHO ARE TRAVERSING THE BEACH. SO IN MY MIND, JUST TO TRY TO SIMPLIFY, I'M NOT TRYING TO GET YOU ENTRAPPED IN ANY WAY FROM A PERSON, LET'S SAY, WALKING ON THAT BEACH AREA. THE INCREASE OF THE SEAWALL SHOULDN'T AFFECT THE VIEW OF OPEN SPACE,

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BECAUSE THE DUNES WILL OR WILL NOT HAVE BEEN INCREASED TO TAKE THAT INTO ACCOUNT.

YOU'RE EXACTLY CORRECT. IT WILL NOT BE. THANK YOU FOR THAT.

AND THEN THE SECOND ONE JUST IS GENERALLY IT'S GREAT TO SEE THE STORMWATER CAPACITY INCREASING.

IS THERE ANY OTHER REASONING OR BENEFIT. IT SEEMS STRANGE.

IT'S VERY POSITIVE THAT A DEVELOPER IS LOOKING TO ENHANCE.

WHAT IS THE OTHER REASONING FOR THAT? THERE ARE SO MANY LAYERS TO THE ADMINISTRATIVE BODIES THAT GOVERN THIS LOCATION. GIVEN THE PRESENCE OF THE COASTAL CONSTRUCTION CONTROL LINE THAT TRIGGERS FDEP REVIEW.

IT ALSO THEN, OF COURSE, CONTINUES TO OBLIGATE THE CITY TO ENFORCE ITS OWN STANDARDS.

AND SO WHETHER THAT'S THE CITY'S COASTAL CONSTRUCTION SETBACK LINE PERMITTING REQUIREMENTS, WHETHER IT'S THE STORMWATER ORDINANCE ITSELF OR THE TRIGGER IN THIS INSTANCE FOR AN ENVIRONMENTAL RESOURCE PERMIT, AND IN EACH INSTANCE, THE MATH NEEDED TO STACK UP ACROSS ALL THESE DIFFERENT LAYERS.

AND AND SO WE'VE MADE THE DECISION TO TAKE THE WORST CASE OUT OF ALL OF THAT MATH AND ENSURE THAT WE'VE GOT THIS NEARLY DOUBLING OF WHAT WE ORIGINALLY INTENDED UNDER THE ORIGINAL DEP PERMITS. WE APPRECIATE THE CLARITY OF THE RESPONSES.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. DID YOU HAVE A COMMENT? JUST LIKE SO BASICALLY, SOMEBODY ELSE UP THE LINE HAD A TOUGHER STANDARD TO USE.

AND SO YOU JUST USE THAT. YES, SIR. OKAY. JUST SO I UNDERSTAND.

OKAY. DOES THE APPLICANT HAVE ANY OTHER PRESENTER THAT THEY WANT US TO HEAR FROM? NOTHING. UNLESS UNLESS YOU REQUIRE THEIR INPUT AS EXPERTS.

OKAY. THANK YOU. WE APPRECIATE IT. STAFF REPORT.

ALL RIGHT. GOOD MORNING. ERICA MARTIN, PLANNING DIRECTOR. I'VE BEEN PREVIOUSLY QUALIFIED AS AN EXPERT IN PLANNING AND ZONING MATTERS. AND THAT WILL BE THE NATURE OF MY TESTIMONY TODAY. YOU HAVE A REQUEST BEFORE YOU FOR AN AMENDMENT TO A RESOLUTION.

THAT RESOLUTION WAS APPROVING THE CONDITIONAL USE FOR THE PORT ROYAL CLUB.

A PRIVATE BEACH CLUB IN THE PORT ROYAL NEIGHBORHOOD.

THEY DID SUBMIT FOR THEIR BUILDING PERMITS. AND WHEN WE SAW THE BUILDING PERMITS, THEY WERE THEY ACTUALLY CALLED US AND TALKED TO US AHEAD OF TIME AND SAID, WE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO RAISE OUR SEAWALL. WE'D LIKE TO DO THAT. AND WE SAID, UNFORTUNATELY, WHEN YOUR CONDITIONAL USE WAS APPROVED, THE CONDITIONAL USE RESOLUTION REFERENCES A SPECIFIC SET OF PLANS.

AND SO IF YOU MAKE MAJOR CHANGES TO THAT SET OF PLANS, THAT MUST GO BACK THROUGH THE PROCESS, BECAUSE THAT RESOLUTION WAS APPROVED, REVIEWED BY AND APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL.

IT HAS TO GO BACK FOR THOSE SAME APPROVALS. SO THEY THEY TOOK THE OPPORTUNITY.

THERE ARE FOUR CHANGES. THE ONLY MAJOR CHANGE REALLY IS TO THE HEIGHT OF THE SEAWALL TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THEIR NEIGHBORING SEAWALLS.

AND THEN THEY ARE ALSO REQUESTING THE INCREASE IN STORMWATER, WHICH IS A POSITIVE INCREASE THEY ARE REQUESTING.

INADVERTENTLY, THE GATE POST THE ENTRY COLUMNS AND THE GATE WAS TAKEN DOWN DURING DEMOLITION.

THAT WAS NOT THEIR INTENT, BUT THEY WERE TAKEN DOWN, SO THEY'D LIKE TO REPLACE THOSE GATES. THAT WAS NOT SHOWN ON THE ORIGINAL APPROVAL.

AND THEN THE OTHER CHANGES TO THE LIFT ON THE POOL.

SO THEY'RE JUST CHANGING THE LAYOUT OF THE POOL TO MOVE THAT HANDICAPPED LIFT TO THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE POOL.

BECAUSE THIS WAS ALL DISCUSSED IN THE SUNSHINE AND IN A PUBLIC HEARING, WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WAS THAT SAME PROCESS WAS FOLLOWED BEFORE YOU TODAY.

SO THEY DID SUBMIT AN AMENDMENT TO THEIR SITE PLAN.

IT WAS REVIEWED BY ALL CITY STAFF. FOUND CONSISTENT WITH THE APPLICABLE CODES AND REGULATIONS.

AND SO THEY'RE BEFORE YOU TODAY JUST FOR APPROVAL OF THOSE FOUR, THOSE FOUR CHANGES TO THAT PLAN.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANY FACTUAL QUESTIONS OF STAFF AT THIS POINT? WHEN I VISITED THE SITE, WHICH I DISCLOSED EARLIER, I HAD A TOUR WITH TIM.

THERE WAS A CONVERSATION ABOUT MAKING AN ACCESSIBLE ACCESSIBILITY PORT PORTAL TO THE BEACH FOR EMS, AMBULANCE, FIRE. SUCH. I DON'T SEE THAT REFERENCED ANYWHERE ON THE NORTH END OF THE PROPERTY.

THEY ARE REQUIRED. THEY HAVE THEIR THEIR BEACH ACCESS PATH ON THE NORTH END OF THE PROPERTY. AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT DID REQUIRE YOU CAN HELP ME IF I NEED.

THE FIRE DEPARTMENT DID REQUIRE THAT THAT BE AN ACCESSIBLE PATH FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO ACCESS.

NOT EMERGENCY VEHICLES, BUT WITH A STRETCHER OR SOMETHING TO GET DOWN TO THE BEACH SHOULD THEY NEED TO. SO THEY WILL BE REQUIRED TO MAINTAIN THAT BEACH ACCESS PATH FOR EMERGENCY ACCESS. WOULD THAT COMPROMISE THE INTEGRITY OF THE SEAWALL? I DON'T BELIEVE SO. IT GOES UP AND OVER, UP AND OVER, MR. SCHULTZ. YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I WANTED FROM DOCTOR GEORGE.

WOULD THAT IMPACT THAT? SO THANK YOU. I ASKED IF HE WAS AVAILABLE, SO I'LL KEEP YOU POSTED.

ARE THERE ARE THERE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT WISH TO SPEAK? I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS OF JUST STAFF FACTUAL CLARIFICATION.

OKAY. I'M JUST CHECKING. GO AHEAD. THANK YOU.

AT PAGE TEN OF THE STAFF REPORT THERE'S A. YOU NEED TO SPEAK.

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I'M SORRY. PAGE TEN OF THE STAFF REPORT AND THE TRANSPORTATION SECTION.

YES. THERE'S A IN PARAGRAPH TWO, IT SAYS START WITH THE SECOND.

SECOND SENTENCE DUE TO THE ON STREET PARKING ON THE NORTHERN SECTION AND THE DETECTED DEDICATED.

I'M SORRY. BIKE WALKING AREA ON THE EASTERN SOUTH SIDE OF THE ENTRANCE ALONG GORDON DRIVE.

PRESENTATION OF THESE NEEDS HAVE BEEN CONSIDERED.

IT SAYS FURTHER ANALYSIS OF THIS ANALYSIS OF THIS SHALL BE COMPLETED IN ADVANCE OF THE MEETING.

HAVE WE SEEN THAT THE ACTUALLY CALL ON MY EXPERT? OKAY. THANK YOU. BECAUSE THOSE ARE HER COMMENTS. OKAY, GREAT. THANK YOU. OH, WE GOT TO SWEAR YOU IN TURN ON YOUR MICROPHONE. DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU'RE ABOUT TO GIVE IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? I DO THANK YOU.

GOOD MORNING. WOULD YOU PULL THE MIC DOWN? THANK YOU.

YES. ALTHOUGH I USUALLY HEAR THAT I, I SPEAK.

I GOT TO BE CAREFUL HOW I SPEAK INTO IT. BUT ANYHOW FOR THE RECORD, ALLISON BICKET, DEPUTY CITY ENGINEER.

THESE COMMENTS WERE ACTUALLY CARRIED FROM THE ORIGINAL REVIEW OF THE PROJECT.

SO I THINK THAT'S WHERE THERE MAY BE SOME CONFUSION.

FROM THE INITIAL ANALYSIS, FROM THE TOTAL REVIEW WE HAVE WE'VE HAD SOME ITERATIONS OF THIS SINCE, AND I THINK THIS WAS JUST A COPY AND PASTE FROM THE THE THE ORIGINAL ANALYSIS.

WE HAVE HAD SOME DISCUSSIONS SINCE AND I THINK THERE WAS A SUBMITTAL.

IF THERE'S ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS YOU HAVE PERTAINING TO THAT, I CAN TRY TO ADDRESS THOSE.

SURE, SURE. AND THERE'S A SENTENCE I'LL JUST READ IT.

THE EXISTING ON STREET PARKING PAVEMENT AND OR PAVED BIKE PEDESTRIAN SHOULDER IS ANTICIPATED TO BE UTILIZED FOR CONSTRUCTION.

CONSTRUCTING TURN LANES. CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT EFFECT THE THIS CONSTRUCTION WILL HAVE ON ACCESS OF THE BIKE LANES FROM FROM GORDON ONTO THE BIKE LANES ON KINGSTOWN ROAD? THERE SHOULD NOT BE. SO THIS SHOULD BE TYING IN.

THIS WAS PRIMARILY TO ADDRESS SOME OF THOSE. IF THERE SHALL BE THE NEED FOR THOSE TURN LANES, THEN THAT IS GOING TO IMPACT SOME OF THAT ON STREET PARKING.

IN ADDITION, WE WERE LOOKING AT THE SIDEWALKS AND MODIFICATIONS THAT WERE NECESSARY IN FRONT OF THE PORT ROYAL CLUB THERE AND ACROSS FROM KINGSTON. THAT SHOULD NOT BE. YOU'RE FROM THE NORTH END.

YOU'RE TRANSITIONING FROM A BIKE LANE INTO REALLY ESSENTIALLY SHARROWS.

THAT'S THE PREEXISTING CONDITIONS. AND I EXPECT THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE SHOULD BE THE PROPER TIME TIE IN FROM THAT POINT.

AND MODIFICATIONS FROM WHAT'S WHAT'S THERE NOW INTO YOU KNOW, SO, SO IF THEN IT'S, IT'S DETERMINED LATER THAT TURN LANES ARE REQUIRED.

WHO WILL MAKE THE THE DECISIONS, WHO WILL LOOK AT WHETHER THE TIE INS ARE PROPER FOR THE THE BIKING OUR DEPARTMENT WOULD WE WE TYPICALLY LOOK AT WE WORK WITH THE THE STRIPING AND ALL THROUGH WE EVALUATE AND IF THERE'S A NEED FOR IF WE NOTICE THAT THERE'S A DEFICIENCY, THEN WE WOULD GO OUT THERE AND, AND MAKE SURE THAT IT'S AND WORK WITH, OF COURSE, THE PORT ROYAL CLUB AS FAR AS THEIR, REQUIREMENTS, BUT WE WOULD OVERSEE AND ASSURE THEY WOULD HAVE TO MOST LIKELY DEPENDING ON I THINK THAT THEY WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE AND IT MAY BE JUST MONETARY THAT THE RESPONSIBILITY WOULD BE.

AND THEN WE WOULD ASSURE THAT IT'S COMPLETED AS, AS NEEDED.

OKAY. WELL, I WOULD JUST ENCOURAGE THAT PARTICULAR ATTENTION BE PAID TO THIS, THIS ISSUE IF IN TIME IF AND WHEN THAT TIME COMES, PLEASE. YES. THANK YOU. SURE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR CLARIFICATION? YES. THANK YOU.

AS IT PERTAINS TO A TURN LANE, IF AND WHEN IT HAPPENS, AT WHOSE EXPENSE WOULD THAT BE? AND THEN THE SIGNAGE THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE WITH THE TURN LANE.

SO THE THE TURN LANE WOULD BE THE RESPONSIBILITY.

FINANCIAL RESPONSIBILITY. AND SORRY, IT'S BEEN A WHILE SINCE I'VE LOOKED AT THESE. BUT THE RESPONSIBILITY IS THE WAY THAT IT'S WRITTEN IN HERE IS OF THE PORT ROYAL BEACH CLUB.

SO THEY WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE FINANCIAL ASPECT OF IT.

WE WOULD PROBABLY OVERSEE IT FROM THE STREETS DIVISION AND ASSURE THAT IT'S IT'S CONSTRUCTED PROPERLY.

DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? I'M SORRY IF I THE OTHER QUESTION.

AND THEN TO ECHO COMMISSIONER FOWLER'S POINTS, IS THAT THE BIKE LANES ARE SIGNIFICANT.

SO JUST THE TURN LANES AND HOW THEY HOW THEY GET PAID FOR THE SIGNAGE FOR THAT ARE IMPORTANT TO US.

THANK YOU. YES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR INPUT.

WE APPRECIATE THAT. ANY OTHER CLARIFICATIONS BEFORE WE GO TO PUBLIC INPUT? THANK YOU. SURE. THANK YOU. ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS MATTER?

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I HAVE NO SLIPS. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. BOARD DISCUSSION, COMMENTS, QUESTIONS.

I TOOK A TOUR AT THE INVITATION OF THE PERSON.

TIM. AND WAS IMPRESSED. VERY IMPRESSED WITH WHAT HE'S GOT GOING OUT THERE.

THE PROFESSIONALISM THAT HE EXHIBITED WAS, WAS REALLY NICE.

AND THE EXPLANATIONS OF IN DETAIL OF THE QUESTIONS I HAD ON SIGHT, I THOUGHT WERE VERY IMPRESSIVE.

THANK YOU. IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE? I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION WITH A SLIGHT AMENDMENT.

I'D LIKE TO PUT A MOTION FORWARD TO RECOMMEND THE APPLICATION TO INCLUDE THE SIX POINTS IDENTIFIED IN THE STAFF REPORT, AND WITH AN ADDITIONAL POINT TO ENSURE THAT THERE IS A MONITORING OF CLEAR PATHWAYS TO AND TURN LANE MARKING FOR CYCLISTS AND FOR ROAD USE BEFORE THE PROJECT IS TOTALLY CLEARED.

SO, YEAH. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. SECOND. YES, SIR.

ANY DISCUSSION? CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE. MEMBER.

BARONI. YES. MEMBER MAYOR. YES. VICE CHAIR. KAPLAN.

YES. MEMBER. FORMER. YES. MEMBER. SCHULTZ. YES.

MEMBER. CHRIS. YES. CHAIR. COUGHLIN. YES. THANK YOU ALL.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I REALLY APPRECIATE THE INTEREST IN PROTECTING THE CITY.

NEXT ITEM IS SEVEN C, A RESOLUTION DETERMINING PETITION 20

[7.C. A Resolution Determining Petition 25-V4, Relating to a Variance Pursuant to Section 46-37 of the Code of Ordinances, City of Naples, to Allow a Driveway toEncroach Twenty-Six (26) Feet Six (6) Inches into the Minimum Fifty (50) Foot Required Setback From the Intersection of Extended Street Curb Lines Pursuant to Section 50-131 of the Code of Ordinances, City of Naples, for the Property Owned by Forest Ave. Properties, LLC, and Located at 1209 Forest Avenue, More Fully Described Herein; and Providing an Effective Date. (Erica Martin, Director of Planning)]

5-34 RELATING TO A VARIANCE PURSUANT TO SECTION 4637 OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCE, CITY OF NAPLES, TO ALLOW A DRIVEWAY TO ENCROACH 26FT SIX INCHES INTO THE MINIMUM 50 FOOT REQUIRED SETBACK FROM THE INTERSECTION OF EXTENDED STREET CURB LINES PURSUANT TO SECTION 51 THREE, ONE OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES, CITY OF NAPLES FOR THE PROPERTY OWNED BY FOREST AVENUE PROPERTIES, LLC AND LOCATED AT ONE 209 FOREST AVENUE.

MORE FULLY DESCRIBED HEREIN AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

THE APPLICANT, PLEASE. YES. WE'RE GOING TO DO DISCLOSURES AS WELL. THANK YOU. SORRY.

YEAH. STARTING ON THE. OH, IT'S WHERE PEOPLE IN FIRST, ALL THOSE INTENDING TO TESTIFY.

IF YOU COULD PLEASE STAND AND RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. THANK YOU.

DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU'RE ABOUT TO GIVE IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? I DO, THANK YOU. OKAY. DISCLOSURES. STARTING ON THE LEFT.

NOTHING FOR ME. NOTHING TO DISCLOSE. NOTHING TO DISCLOSE.

NOTHING TO DISCLOSE. NOTHING TO DISCLOSE. AWARE OF THE PROPERTY? NOTHING TO DISCLOSE. LIKEWISE, I TOURED THE NEIGHBORHOOD SURROUNDING THE PROPERTY AND ALSO LOOKED AT THE THE PROPERTY PRETTY CAREFULLY. FROM MY CAR. BEAUTIFUL TREE.

AND THAT'S IT. THANK YOU. APPLICANT. GOOD MORNING.

I MY NAME IS JAMAL DAOUD. I AM THE MANAGING MEMBER OF THE LLC THAT OWNS THIS PROPERTY.

WE PURCHASED IT ABOUT FOUR YEARS AGO WITH THE INTENTION OF BUILDING A HOUSE ON IT.

IT TURNS OUT THAT IT IS IMPOSSIBLE FOR US TO MEET THE THE CURRENT 50 FOOT SETBACK REQUIREMENT, EVEN WITHOUT THE TREE. THERE'S SIMPLY NOT ENOUGH.

NOT ENOUGH DISTANCE FROM THE INTERSECTION. I PUT TOGETHER A PRESENTATION HERE AND I'M HAPPY TO GO THROUGH IT.

BUT THE KIND OF THE LONG AND SHORT OF IT IS THAT THERE ARE SIX INTERSECTIONS.

THE ONLY WAY TO GET TO THIS PROPERTY YOU HAVE TO PASS BY ONE OF THESE INTERSECTIONS.

NOT A SINGLE ONE OF THEM. I MEAN, I THINK I COUNTED 15 HOUSES NONE OF WHICH MEET THIS CRITERIA.

THE 50 FOOT SETBACK, THE HOUSE DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM US DOESN'T MEET THE SETBACK REQUIREMENTS.

THE HOUSES, THERE'S FOUR HOUSES. THREE HOUSES TO THE TO THE SOUTH, AND THEN ONE ACROSS THE STREET.

THEY DON'T MEET THE SETBACK REQUIREMENTS. LIKE I SAID, I'M HAPPY TO TO TO GO THROUGH THIS POWERPOINT PRESENTATION.

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IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME SINCE I PUT ONE OF THESE TOGETHER. SO IT'S NOT ALL THAT PROFESSIONAL. AND IT'S UP TO YOU IF YOU'D LIKE ME TO TO.

AND IT BASICALLY JUST GOES INTERSECTION BY INTERSECTION, SHOWING YOU ALL THE DIFFERENT HOUSES THAT DO NOT MEET THAT SETBACK REQUIREMENT.

LASTLY, I'D LIKE TO SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND THE THE RATIONALE FOR HAVING THAT SETBACK FOR SAFETY REQUIREMENTS, ETC., WHERE THIS PARCEL IS LOCATED. YOU KNOW, THE TRAFFIC COUNT IS PROBABLY, YOU KNOW, 25 CARS A DAY OR SOMETHING. AND THAT'S AN EXAGGERATION, MAYBE, BUT IT'S PROBABLY NOT THAT MUCH OF AN EXAGGERATION.

SO AS FAR AS SAFETY CONCERNS, WHEREVER WE WERE TO PUT THIS DRIVEWAY, IT WOULD IT WOULD NOT IMPACT SAFETY IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD WHATSOEVER.

MR. CHAIR ONE POINT PART OF A QUASI JUDICIAL HEARING IS THAT YOU ARE QUASI JUDGES, AND YOUR JOB IS TO TAKE IN ANY COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE, WHETHER THAT BE EVIDENCE OR TESTIMONY, AND COMPARE IT TO THE CRITERIA.

SO IF THE APPLICANT DOES HAVE A PRESENTATION THAT HE FEELS IS IMPORTANT TO GET INTO THE RECORD.

I WOULD ENCOURAGE HIM TO DO THAT. YEAH. I THINK WE'RE GOING TO ACCEPT YOUR TESTIMONY THAT THERE'S A LARGE NUMBER OF NON-CONFORMING HOUSES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. STAFF REPORT CAN RESPOND TO THAT IF THEY DISAGREE, BUT IT WOULD BE IMPORTANT TO PUT IN YOUR YOUR ENTIRE REPORT INTO THE RECORD. RIGHT. AND SO WHY DON'T WE JUST ACCEPT WHAT YOU SUBMITTED TO THE TO THE BOARD AS PART OF THE RECORD.

AND THAT'LL SAVE A LITTLE PROCESSING TIME, GIVEN THE STRENGTH OF OUR THE LENGTH OF OUR AGENDA TODAY.

OKAY. I'LL TRY AND GO QUICKLY. DO I CONTROL THIS WITH THE MOUSE HERE? AND YOU JUST USE THE DOWN ARROW ON THE KEYBOARD? OH, I GOT YOU.

OKAY. SO OVERVIEW OF THE SITE LOCATION. THIS IS LOCATED IN LAKE PARK.

THAT'S THE LOT. THEY'RE HIGHLIGHTED. IT'S ON FOREST AVENUE.

THAT IS THE SINGLE FAMILY HOME WE'RE HOPING TO BUILD.

AND IF I COULD JUST POINT OUT WE'RE TRYING TO GO AROUND THAT THAT FICUS TREE THAT IS LOCATED IN THE CORNER THERE.

STREET VIEW. AND FROM THIS YOU CAN REALLY SEE ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE, YOU KNOW, THE HOUSE DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM US HAS ONE DRIVEWAY THAT GOES DIRECTLY INTO THE INTERSECTION. THE OTHER DRIVEWAY CLEARLY ISN'T 50FT FROM THAT INTERSECTION.

THIS SHOWS ROUGHLY THE LOCATION OF OUR DRIVEWAY WOULD BE DIRECTLY ACROSS THE ACROSS FROM THE DRIVEWAY OF THE HOUSE, ACROSS THE STREET. THESE ARE THE SIX INTERSECTIONS I MENTIONED WITH OUR PROPERTY HIGHLIGHTED.

AS YOU CAN SEE, THIS IS THE INTERSECTION JUST TO THE SOUTH OF US.

THERE ARE THREE HOUSES ON THAT'S THE WEST SIDE, ONE HOUSE ON THE ON THE EAST SIDE.

NONE OF THOSE. SO THERE'S FOUR HOUSES THERE. NONE OF THOSE MEET THAT SETBACK REQUIREMENT.

THIS IS 13TH AND FOREST. YOU CAN CLEARLY SEE THAT THAT THAT THOSE HOUSES ACROSS THE STREET AND ALSO THE ONE ON THE SOUTHWEST SIDE DO NOT MEET THOSE REQUIREMENTS. THIS IS NINTH AND 13TH. ONCE AGAIN, ONE, TWO, THREE.

AT LEAST FOUR HOUSES DO NOT MEET THOSE REQUIREMENTS.

EIGHTH TERRACE AND 13TH. ONCE AGAIN, YOU CAN CLEARLY SEE THAT AT LEAST THREE OF THOSE HOUSES DON'T MEET, MEET THE REQUIREMENTS. EIGHTH TERRACE AND FOREST.

THOSE TWO HOUSES DIRECTLY ACROSS ARE ON THE I GUESS THAT'S THE NORTH NORTH SIDE.

NEITHER ONE OF THOSE HOUSES MEET THE REQUIREMENTS.

SO. AND BASICALLY, THAT'S THE END OF THE END OF THE PRESENTATION.

SO LIKE I SAID, I, I UNDERSTAND THE RATIONALE FOR THE THE SETBACK REQUIREMENTS.

I THINK IT'S MORE SUITABLE TO TO A DIFFERENT AREA THAT HAS FAR MORE TRAFFIC ETC., THAN, THAN THIS LAKE PARK NEIGHBORHOOD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR.

YOU DID GIVE US A SPEAKER REGISTRATION, RIGHT? I DID, YES. OKAY. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I KNOW WE HAVE ONE OTHER PENDING.

SO ANY FACTUAL INQUIRIES TO MAKE AT THIS POINT IN TIME IF THE APPLICANT.

OKAY. WE MAY CALL YOU BACK, BUT THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU. STAFF REPORT. GOOD MORNING, KIM NUDI, CITY OF NAPLES PLANNING DEPARTMENT.

MY RESUME AND QUALIFICATIONS ARE ON FILE. PLANNING PETITION 25 V4 IS A VARIANCE REQUEST FOR PROPOSED DRIVEWAY AT 1209 FOREST AVENUE.

TO BE 26FT AND SIX INCHES FROM THE INTERSECTION OF EXTENDED STREET CURB LINES FROM THE DRIVEWAY.

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SEPARATION REQUIREMENT FROM SECTION 5131, WHICH REQUIRES A DRIVEWAY TO BE A MINIMUM OF 50FT FROM THE INTERSECTION.

THIS PROPERTY IS WITHIN THE R1 7.5 RESIDENCE DISTRICT, WHICH SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE AND ACCESSORY STRUCTURES SUCH AS A DRIVEWAY ARE PERMITTED.

USES. THE PROPERTY IS AT A Y INTERSECTION OF FOREST AVENUE AND NINTH AVENUE.

1209 FOREST AVENUE. LOT 28 WAS PREVIOUSLY COMBINED WITH THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTY OF 1215 FOREST AVENUE, LOT 27. THE TWO LOTS WERE SPLIT WITH MINOR SUBDIVISION PETITION 19, MSD 19 TO THE ORIGINAL PLAT MAPS FOR LOTS 27 AND 28 OF BLOCK C LAKE FOREST, ACCORDING TO THE PLAT THEREOF, AS RECORDED IN PLAT BOOK ONE, PAGE 99.

PUBLIC RECORDS OF COLLIER COUNTY, FLORIDA. THE PETITIONER PURCHASED THE PROPERTY IN 2021.

INTENDING TO BUILD A SINGLE FAMILY HOME. THE PETITIONER BECAME AWARE OF THE PROPOSED DRIVEWAY ENCROACHMENT DURING THE REVIEW OF THE SINGLE FAMILY PERMIT THAT'S CURRENTLY IN THE SUBJECT. PROPERTY HAS A 72.5FT FRONTAGE AND A LARGE EXISTING CITY TREE AT THE SOUTHWEST CORNER.

THE COMBINATION OF THE Y INTERSECTION AT THE SOUTHERN END OF THE PROPERTY RENDERS A 50 FOOT MINIMUM DRIVEWAY SEPARATION IMPOSSIBLE.

THE APPLICANT HAS WORKED CLOSELY WITH THE CITY ARBORIST AND TRAFFIC ENGINEER TO DEVELOP A SAFE DRIVEWAY LOCATION TO ALLOW THE EXISTING TREE TO REMAIN.

THERE ARE SEVERAL PROPERTIES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD BUILT IN THE 1950S THAT HAVE ENCROACHING DRIVEWAYS.

THE VARIANCE REQUEST WILL ALLOW VEHICULAR ACCESS TO THE PETITIONER'S HOME OR FUTURE HOME.

ON AUGUST 8TH, 2025, A TOTAL OF 309 LETTERS WERE SENT OUT TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 1000FT OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.

STAFF RECEIVED ONE CORRESPONDENCE SUPPORTING THE VARIANCE REQUEST WITH THE CONDITION THAT TREES REMAIN.

THEY WERE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THE TREES THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAS AND DON'T WANT TO LOSE ANY MORE. PURSUANT TO SECTION 4637 C OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, STAFF HAS APPLIED THE VARIANCE CRITERIA TO REQUEST FOR A DRIVEWAY TO BE 26FT AND SIX INCHES FROM THE INTERSECTION OF EXTENDED STREET CURB LINES, ENCROACHING INTO THE 50 FOOT MINIMUM REQUIRED DISTANCE, AND FIND THAT THRESHOLD CRITERIAS ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE, SIX AND SEVEN AND MEETS ADDITIONAL CRITERIA ONE, TWO, THREE AND FIVE.

THE ADDITIONAL CRITERIA NUMBER FOUR IS NOT APPLICABLE.

SHOULD THE PLANNING ADVISORY BOARD WISH TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO CITY COUNCIL STAFF RECOMMEND THE INCLUSION OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS.

THE DRIVEWAY SHALL BE LOCATED 26FT AND SIX INCHES FROM THE INTERSECTION OF EXTENDED STREET CURB LINES, AS REQUESTED IN THE APPLICATION AND SHOWN IN THE DRIVEWAY DIAGRAM.

AND THE CITY MANAGED. BEAR WITH ME ON THIS ONE.

CUBAN LAUREL FICUS MARCO WILL BE PRESERVED. THAT'S THE TREE NAME.

STAFF IS AVAILABLE FOR COMMENTS. ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF AT THIS POINT IN TIME? YES. MISS MARTIN, I'M CURIOUS AS TO THE SPLIT LOT SITUATION HERE.

HOW HOW IS THIS CACOPHONY OF ALL THESE HOW HOW DID THIS EVER GET ABOUT? SURE. SO THE INTERESTING THING IS, THIS IS ACTUALLY THE ORIGINALLY PLATTED LOT.

SO THIS IS WE HAVE A SITUATION WHERE THESE LOTS WERE PLATTED PRIOR TO THIS DRIVEWAY REQUIREMENT.

SO THIS IS THE ORIGINALLY PLATTED LOT IN THE SUBDIVISION.

AT SOME POINT, THIS LOT WAS COMBINED WITH ITS NEIGHBORING LOT AND THEN SPLIT BACK TO THE ORIGINALLY PLATTED LOTS.

SO IT WASN'T THE THE SPLITTING OF THE LOTS DIDN'T CREATE THE, THE THE SITUATION THAT WE'RE IN NOW.

THIS WAS THE ORIGINALLY PLATTED LOT CONFIGURATION.

IT WAS THE IMPLEMENTATION AFTER THE PLATTING OF THE LOTS OF THIS DRIVEWAY REQUIREMENT THAT ESSENTIALLY RENDERS THIS LOT.

THERE IS NO POSSIBLE WAY FOR THEM TO MEET THIS REQUIREMENT AND PROVIDE ACCESS TO THIS LOT.

I'VE ALWAYS SAID THAT I DON'T THINK THERE I COULDN'T IMAGINE A SINGLE SITUATION WHERE SOMETHING COULD MEET OUR VARIANCE CRITERIA.

THIS IS IT. THIS IS THE FIRST ONE I'VE SEEN WHERE THERE REALLY, TRULY IS NO POSSIBLE WAY FOR THIS GENTLEMAN TO COMPLY WITH THE REGULATIONS AND HAVE ACCESS TO HIS PROPERTY, BE BEYOND HIS CONTROL. THE SITUATION WITH SPLIT LOTS.

I WOULD ENCOURAGE STAFF TO TRY TO LIMIT ANY OF THOSE MOVING FORWARD.

OKAY. AND I JUST I WOULD SAY I AGREE WITH YOU, EXCEPT THAT WE DO HAVE A PROVISION THAT SAYS IF YOU ARE JUST RECREATING ORIGINALLY PLATTED LOTS. SO THE INTENT OF THIS NEIGHBORHOOD WAS ALWAYS, THIS IS LOT 2728.

THIS ONE'S LOT 28. SO THIS IS THE ORIGINALLY CREATED LOT 28 OF THE SUBDIVISION.

OUR CODE DOES PROVIDE THAT IF YOU ARE SPLITTING JUST TO RECREATE ORIGINALLY PLATTED.

AND THE REASON WHY IS BECAUSE THEN YOU'RE NOT INCREASING THE ORIGINALLY INTENDED DENSITY OF THAT DISTRICT THIS NEIGHBORHOOD ALWAYS HAD. THIS IS JUST A MADE UP NUMBER 100 LOTS IN THIS SUBDIVISION. SO AS LONG AS YOU'RE JUST RECREATING THOSE ORIGINALLY CREATED LOTS, BUT I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

THANK YOU. BUT THROUGHOUT THE CITY, AS TIME GOES ON, I WOULD HOPE THAT WE DON'T HAVE VERY MANY MORE,

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IF ANY. SPLIT LOTS. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR HELP. ANY OTHER CLARIFICATIONS? SO DOES THAT MEAN THERE WAS NOT AN EXISTING HOUSE THAT WAS IN THIS PROPERTY BY ITSELF IN THE THE PLOT THAT'S CURRENTLY THERE SINCE IT HAS BEEN SPLIT? NO. OKAY. SO THERE'S NO THERE'S NO OLD DRIVEWAY THAT EXISTS.

OKAY. GOT IT. OKAY. WE HAVE A REQUEST FROM A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC TO SPEAK PENNY TAYLOR.

THANK YOU. WOULD YOU COME UP AND I'LL SWEAR YOU IN, PLEASE? GOOD TRAINING. DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU'RE ABOUT TO GIVE IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? I DO THANK YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MY NAME IS PENNY TAYLOR.

I LIVE WITHIN SHORT DOG WALKING DISTANCE OF THIS PROPERTY.

WHEN I MOVED INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD 37 YEARS AGO, THERE WAS A HUSBAND AND WIFE WHO HAD WE CALLED THEM THE FARMERS OF LAKE PARK.

THAT LOT THAT IS SCHEDULED TO BE BUILT ON WAS A BEAUTIFUL GREEN LOT.

AND THEY THEY TOOK CARE OF IT VERY WELL. SO THIS MORNING, UNDERSTANDING I WAS GOING TO BE IN HERE SPEAKING TO YOU, I WENT BY AND LOOKED AT DISTANCE. YOU HAVE THE TREE, BUT TREES HAVE ROOTS.

AND THOSE ROOTS GO THAT WAY TO WHERE THIS GENTLEMAN WANTS TO BUILD.

AND THEN YOU'VE GOT A NICE BIG CITY SEWER. I BELIEVE IT'S A SEWER GAP OR WHATEVER IT IS ROUND.

I DIDN'T PAY ATTENTION TO IT. I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU'RE GOING TO FIT A DOUBLE DRIVEWAY IN THERE.

AND, YOU KNOW, ACCIDENTS DO HAPPEN. AND WE COULDN'T JUST WE JUST COULDN'T KEEP.

WE JUST. YOU GAVE US PERMISSION, AND, YOU KNOW, IT WAS THE WRONG THING TO DO BECAUSE I KNOW THE TREE IS DYING.

BUT WHAT CAN WE DO? I DON'T KNOW THE RADIUS OF THE ROOTS OF THAT TREE, BUT IT IS A BEAUTIFUL TREE, AND WE HAVE LOST A LOT OF TREES IN LAKE PARK.

LAKE PARK IS KNOWN FOR ITS TREES. WE ACTUALLY HAVE A CANOPY STREET ON 13TH STREET NORTH.

SO AS YOU GO FORWARD, PLEASE KEEP THAT IN MIND.

I'M SURE THE INTENTIONS ARE GOOD, BUT IF IT'S THE FASHION OF WHAT WE'RE DOING IN NAPLES, IT'S LOT LINE TO LOT LINE WITH VERY LITTLE OPPORTUNITY FOR DRAINAGE, VERY LITTLE OPPORTUNITY FOR LANDSCAPING.

BECAUSE YOU KNOW, WHAT COSTS MONEY TO LANDSCAPE THAT LOT IS A JEWEL.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

WE APPRECIATE IT. OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD? ONE QUESTION FOR STAFF, PLEASE. KIM, YOU SAID THAT THAT THE OWNER HAD WORKED WITH THE CITY ARBORIST.

CORRECT. DID DID ARBORIST CONSIDER THE THE TREE ROOTS? WE HAVE HER HERE. AND SHE'LL HAVE TO BE SWORN IN.

I WAS SWORN. ARE YOU WERE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

GOOD MORNING. URBAN FOREST MANAGER FOR THE CITY OF NAPLES.

IN A PERFECT WORLD, WE WOULD HAVE EXTENSIVE GREEN SPACE AROUND ALL OF OUR TREES FOR OUR ROOTS.

I HAVE MET WITH THIS RESIDENT AND HIS LANDSCAPE TEAM, AS WELL AS OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEER.

AND EVEN WITHIN THE TREE PROTECTION CODE, THERE IS A PROVISION THAT TREES CAN WE CAN MAKE ADJUSTMENTS FOR ACCESS TO THE PROPERTY. AND AS ERICA STATED, I MEAN, BETWEEN TRAFFIC, MYSELF AND THE PROPERTY OWNER, THIS IS OUR BEST OPTION. YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, IDEALLY, COULD IT BE FURTHER AWAY? YEAH. BUT WE ALSO HAVE TO THINK SAFETY AND EVERYTHING.

SO AND ACTUALLY IN WORKING WITH THEIR LANDSCAPER, THEY'RE GOING TO PUT SOME EXTRA DIRT AROUND THE ROOTS AND STUFF.

SO THE PROPERTY OWNER REALLY DID DO EVERYTHING HE COULD TO ACCOMMODATE THIS TREE AND ITS ABILITY TO SURVIVE.

AND WITH THE THE MEASURES HE'S HE'LL TAKE IF THIS IS APPROVED WHAT DO YOU THINK THAT THE TREE IS IN SUBSTANTIAL DANGER OF OF NOT SURVIVING OR WHAT'S YOUR ASSESSMENT AS AN EXPERT IN ARBOR? THE TREE IS OLD, BUT I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT THE ACTIONS THAT WILL BE TAKEN AS A RESULT OF THIS BUILD ARE GOING TO HAVE AN IMPACT ON THE TREE THAT WILL CAUSE IT TO DETERIORATE AND DECLINE TO THE POINT OF DEATH.

IT MAY DECLINE SLIGHTLY RIGHT OFF THE GET GO WHEN SOME ROOTS ARE TRIMMED AND SOME DIFFERENT DIRT, COMPACTION AND STUFF. WE HAVE THAT AT ANY BUILDING SITE, REGARDLESS OF THEM REQUIRING A VARIANCE.

VARIANCE FROM ALL OF YOU. BUT THIS VARIETY OF TREE, THIS SPECIES OF TREE, IN ADDITION TO THE CONDITIONS AND EVERYTHING THAT THE PROPERTY OWNER

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AGREED TO, IS THE BEST POSSIBLE OPTIONS THAT WE HAVE FOR SUCCESS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YOU'RE WELCOME. YES. WAIT A MINUTE.

LET'S SEE IF SOMEBODY DOWN HERE. OKAY. GO AHEAD.

THANK YOU. THE DRAINAGE ITEM, AS POINTED OUT BY THE LAST SPEAKER, THE SEWER CAP IS.

IS THAT AN ACTIVE DRAIN? I DON'T KNOW THAT, BUT THIS WILL ALL BE REVIEWED WHEN THEY COME IN FOR THE BUILDING PERMIT.

THEY'LL HAVE TO GET A UTILITIES REVIEW. THEY'LL SUBMIT A UTILITIES PLAN, AND THAT WILL BE REVIEWED BY OUR UTILITIES DEPARTMENT. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. YES, I'M CONFLICTED ON THIS ONE. THE TREE OBVIOUSLY.

YES. IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO GET A DRIVEWAY, IF NOT IMPOSSIBLE IN THE 50 FOOT RULE IS OBVIOUSLY FOR SAFETY.

YES, IT IS A LIGHT TRAFFIC AREA. I REALLY WOULD HATE TO SEE THE TREE IMPACTED IN ANY NEGATIVE WAY.

WAS A SINGLE DRIVEWAY CONSIDERED? BECAUSE THAT WOULD GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF EXTRA VISIBILITY FOR THE THE VISION CLEARANCE TRIANGLE. I WOULD ASK THE PETITIONER IF THEY.

WHAT WE HAVE DESIGNED IS A SINGLE DRIVEWAY. I SEE TWO CARS ON THIS.

WHAT AM I LOOKING ON? I SEE TWO CARS WHERE I'M ON WHERE AM I? ARCHITECTURAL PLAN PAGE A08. IS THAT. IS THAT THE FRONT PERSPECTIVE? ARE WE LOOKING AT THE SAME SCREEN HERE? NO. NO WE DON'T.

YEAH. SO THERE IS JUST ONE. ONE DRIVEWAY. OKAY.

WHAT I'M LOOKING AT IS DIFFERENT ON THE. ARCHITECTURAL PLAN.

PAGE 808. IT'S SHOWING TWO CARS SIDE BY SIDE, WHICH? IS RIGHT BY THE TREE. I THINK I THINK THAT'S THEIR SITE MANAGEMENT PLAN.

SO THAT'S THE SITE MANAGEMENT PLAN FOR CONSTRUCTION PLAN.

SO IT SHOWS THEIR DUMPSTER. IT'S THAT DRIVEWAY AGAIN.

BUT YEAH. SO IT SHOWS WHERE THE CONSTRUCTION ACCESS WILL BE.

BUT THAT'S NOT FOR THE ACTUAL PROPOSED DRIVEWAY. IF YOU ACTUALLY GO TO ONE OF THE FIRST PAGES, A-01 THAT GIVES YOU A GOOD VIEW WITHIN THAT SET OF HOW THE DRIVEWAY WILL BE, IF YOU CAN READ IT. YEAH. OKAY. I NOTICED COMING OFF OF WAS IT FOREST AVENUE? THERE'S NO STOP SIGN. YIELD SIGN? WOULD THAT BE A SAFETY ENHANCEMENT? YEAH. THE TRAFFIC. THE REASON I ASK THAT IS, OBVIOUSLY, IF CARS ARE PARKED IN THE DRIVEWAY, IT WOULD BE HARD TO SEE AROUND THE CORNER. GOOD MORNING AGAIN.

AT THIS SITE, I DON'T KNOW IF. IS THERE A IS THERE ANOTHER IMAGE? BECAUSE I WHAT LIKE A SITE OVERVIEW? YES. SO THAT I CAN'T CONTROL THAT HERE. YEAH.

I TYPICALLY WHEN WE LOOK AT IT, THE INTERSECTIONS.

AND IF THIS ONE HASN'T HISTORICALLY HAD ONE, THERE'S NOT BEEN A SAFETY CONCERN.

IT MAY NOT BE THAT THERE WAS A NEED FOR IT. IT'S LOW VOLUME.

TYPICALLY IF WE IF THERE IS A YIELD OR A STOP, IT'S TRIGGERED BY THE NEED AN EVALUATION THAT IS DONE BY A TRAFFIC STUDY THAT IS REQUIRED FOR IMPLEMENTATION OF A STOP SIGN OR YIELD SIGN.

SO REDUCING THE 50 FOOT, VISION CLEARANCE TRIANGLE WOULD NOT TRIGGER THE NEED TO PUT OR EVEN THE CONVERSATION.

NO, THAT THAT WOULD NOT BE A TRIGGER POINT FOR THAT.

CORRECT. THAT WOULD BE AFTER AN ACCIDENT. NO, I DON'T THINK THAT THERE WITH THE THE LOW VOLUME.

I MEAN, I, I DON'T THINK THAT THE DIFFERENCE OF THE, THE 20 TO 30FT IS GOING TO MAKE THAT MUCH OF A DIFFERENCE.

I MEAN, WE TYPICALLY DO STRIVE TO MEET THAT 50FT SEPARATION.

BUT I DON'T THINK THAT THAT'S GOING TO TRIGGER A STOP SIGN.

WE COULD ALWAYS LOOK AT THAT INTERSECTION, PARTICULARLY IF THERE'S A A HEIGHTENED CONCERN FOR THE THE SAFETY BASED ON TRAFFIC, THAT THERE'S BEEN SOME PREVIOUS ACCIDENTS OR CONCERN.

BUT I DON'T THINK THAT THAT THE DRIVEWAY LOCATION WOULD TRIGGER THE NEED FOR THE.

SO IT WOULD BE OFF TO THE EVENT. YOU'D YOU'D CONSIDER A YIELD OR A STOP SIGN THERE.

WE COULD, WE COULD WE COULD DO A STUDY, PERFORM A STUDY, AND EVALUATE TO DETERMINE IF THERE'S NOT ONE THERE FROM 50 FOOT.

50 FOOT CLEARANCE IS A SAFETY ASPECT. SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WATERING DOWN THE SAFETY ASPECT WITH NO ADDITIONAL SAFETY.

IMPLEMENTATION. I DON'T THINK THAT THERE IS FROM THE DIFFERENTIAL, YOU KNOW, BEING THAT WITH THAT DRIVEWAY CONNECTION,

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IT'S GOING TO BE I DON'T ANTICIPATE THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE A HIGH VOLUME OF TRAFFIC COMING IN AND OUT OF THAT DRIVEWAY THAT YOU KNOW, IT'S ALWAYS A, A SITE VISIBILITY CONCERN. SO I DON'T ANTICIPATE THAT THAT'S GOING TO BE AN ISSUE.

AGAIN, IF THERE'S A FURTHER CONCERN, WE CAN ALWAYS EVALUATE AND DETERMINE IF THERE'S A NEED FOR ADDITION OF A YIELD OR STOP SIGN AT THAT INTERSECTION IF THAT'S NOT ALREADY IN PLACE. THANK YOU. ALLISON. YES, DIANE. JUST COMMON SENSE.

WOULD IT BE TYPICAL TO TURN AROUND IN THE DRIVEWAY AND HEAD OUT TO THE STREET FACING FRONT, AS OPPOSED TO BACKING OUT? I DO IT EVERY DAY ON THIRD.

YEAH, PROBABLY I HADN'T I HADN'T THOUGHT ABOUT THAT THAT THAT QUESTION.

SO I WOULD NEED TO BEFORE I SPEAK. I THINK ABOUT IT A LITTLE MORE, BUT TYPICALLY YOU WOULD IT WOULD BE SAFER TO TURN AROUND AND PULL OUT GOING FORWARD. IS THAT THE QUESTION? YOU'RE NOT ABLE TO TURN AROUND IN THE DRIVEWAY? YOU KNOW, I THINK IT IS DESIGNED IF YOU LOOK AT THAT AND I DON'T HAVE THE ARCHITECTURAL PLANS IN FRONT OF ME, I JUST INCLUDED THE THE COVER PAGE OF THAT IN MY PRESENTATION.

I THINK IF YOU LOOK AT THAT, THERE IS A TURNAROUND.

IF YOU COME OUT OF THE IF YOU COME OUT OF THE GARAGE, YOU WOULD TURN AROUND IN FRONT OF THE HOUSE AND THEN PULL OUT GOING FORWARD.

DOESN'T SHOW UP IN MY PICTURE. YOU CAN YOU CAN SEE IT ON THIS HERE.

JUST IN FRONT OF THE FRONT DOOR. I THINK HE'S ANSWERED THE QUESTION AS BEST HE CAN. YES. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I JUST WANTED TO.

SO I WANT TO JUST GET CLARIFICATION. SO THE THE CRUSHED SHELL PORTION OF THE DRIVEWAY IS, WHICH IS LARGER THAN THE PAVED PART.

THAT'S STILL THE PLAN. I THINK WE WERE GOING TO GO WITH A SOLID SURFACE.

YEAH. SO WHERE IT SAYS CRUSHED SHELL DRIVEWAY, YOU'RE GOING TO DO ALL CONCRETE TOO.

YEAH. SO THIS WAS I BELIEVE THAT WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE IS, IS THE, THE PREVIOUS ITERATION THAT THIS WAS RIGHT AROUND THE TIME THAT WE REALIZED WE HAD THE PROBLEM AND WE WERE APPLYING FOR A VARIANCE.

BUT I BELIEVE THE CITY SAID THAT WE COULD NOT USE CRUSHED SHELL.

OKAY. SO IT'S THE SAME PLAN. YOU'RE JUST GOING TO DO ALL CONCRETE? YES. OR OUR PAVERS. YEAH. PAVERS? YES. YEAH. AS FAR AS I GUESS THE QUESTION IS, IS HAVING IMPERVIOUS STUFF ON TOP OF THAT AN ISSUE? AND THERE ARE SUCH THINGS CALLED AS IMPERVIOUS PAVERS AND THINGS.

SO IS THAT SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE REQUIRED. AND PART OF IT'S THE ARBORIST SIDE IS THAT IF, IF WHAT'S AND I ONCE AGAIN I'M LOOKING AT WHATEVER THE PICTURE IS THERE THAT SHOWS THAT THAT'S CONCRETE OR PAVERS.

SHOULD THAT BE REQUIRED TO BE IMPERVIOUS AS OPPOSED TO PERVIOUS OR THE OTHER WAY AROUND.

OTHER WAY AROUND? YEAH. DO YOU HAVE A BUILDER? WELL, HERE. LET HER TALK. EXCUSE ME. OBVIOUSLY A PERVIOUS WOULD BE BETTER YOU KNOW, TO ALLOW THE WATER TO PERCOLATE THROUGH. BUT EVEN IN ANY, ANY PAVER TYPE SITUATIONS, THEY'RE BETTER THAN THE SOLID CONCRETE.

SO. BUT I WOULD PREFER PERVIOUS, IMPERVIOUS, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT CAN GO THROUGH IN BUILDING PERMITS, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT ALSO STARTS TO WAGER INTO STORMWATER AND SUCH.

SO THERE'S SEVERAL DIFFERENT FACTORS THAT GO INTO WHAT THEY APPROVE FOR THE DRIVEWAY MATERIALS.

OKAY. NOW SO WHAT ARE THE WHAT ARE THE 2 OR 3 MAJOR THINGS THAT COULD KILL THE TREE? YOU MENTIONED YOU YOU MADE THE TALKED A LOT. THEY FIXED A LOT OF STUFF, WHICH I APPRECIATE.

I THINK THAT'S GOOD. THE THE BIGGEST FACTOR FOR THIS TREE WOULD JUST BE AND TO BE HONEST, IN MY, MY CONCERN WITH THIS TREE ISN'T SO MUCH ITS DECLINE OR OR DEATH, BUT CUTTING TOO MANY ROOTS TO CAUSE A FAILURE OF THE TREE IN WIND.

BECAUSE FICUS TREES CAN GET VERY TOP HEAVY, THEY DO TEND TO HAVE VERY, VERY SHALLOW ROOTS.

THEY DO TEND TO FALL OVER IN STORMS AND HURRICANES.

SO THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT OF SPACE BETWEEN THE TRUNK TO KEEP THOSE STABILIZING ROOTS IS ACTUALLY MY BIGGEST CONCERN AS OPPOSED TO ITS ACTUAL DECLINE. ONCE YOU GET INTO THAT, IT'S GOING TO ALSO BOIL DOWN TO HOW THE ROUTES ARE CUT.

THEY CAN'T BE TORN. THEY NEED TO BE A CLEAN CUT, WHICH WILL ALLOW THE TREE TO PRODUCE NEW ROUTES AND HEAL OVER THOSE ROUTES THAT HAVE BEEN CUT. AS TO NOT ALLOW FOR THE ADDITION OF ANY FUNGUS OR BUGS OR ROT INTO THE ROOT STRUCTURE.

OBVIOUSLY THE PROPER AMOUNT OF WATER IS ALWAYS GOOD, BUT FICUS TREES ARE EXTREMELY RESILIENT.

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SOMETIMES TO THE PRO, SOMETIMES TO THE CON. WHAT WOULD BE DONE THAT YOU WANT TO CUT THE ROOTS HERE? IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE JUST PUTTING STUFF ON TOP, I GUESS.

AND I GUESS THE QUESTION I WOULD ASK IS, IS THERE SOMETHING GOING ON UNDERNEATH THERE THAT'S RELATED TO STEAM TO WATER, WHERE WE'RE CUTTING THROUGH FOR DRAINAGE AND STUFF THAT'S GOING TO CUT THIS THING OR WHAT? LET ME SEE IF I CAN FIND A THAT THAT STREET LEVEL.

I'M NOT SURE, AND I MAYBE COULD HAVE INCLUDED IT HERE, BUT I DIDN'T ANTICIPATE THE QUESTION.

SO IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE TREE THERE, YOU CAN SEE IT IN THIS, IN THIS PICTURE ON, ON OUR SIDE.

AND YOU CAN VAGUELY MAKE IT OUT. THERE IS A SYSTEM OF ROUTES THAT ARE EXPOSED.

SO I'M ASSUMING MAYBE HAPPEN FROM WIND OVER THE YEARS BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT EXPOSED ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE TREE.

SO OUR DRIVEWAY WOULD, WOULD NOT JUST GO AROUND THE TREE, IT WOULD GO AROUND THE, THE SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF THOSE ROUTES ALSO.

BUT YOU MENTIONED YOU'RE GOING TO PUT PUT DIRT AND STUFF LIKE THAT. SO I GUESS THE QUESTION WHEN IT WHEN IT ALL GETS REGRADED, IT WILL BE AND AS I PREVIOUSLY STATED, THE PROPERTY OWNER AND ACTUALLY THE BUILDER, WE'VE MET ACTUALLY I'VE HAD A RELATIONSHIP WITH THE BUILDER IN YEARS PAST ON OTHER PROJECTS. AND, YOU KNOW, THEY KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING.

THE CARE THAT THEY'VE TAKEN ON PREVIOUS PROJECTS HAS ENSURED SURVIVABILITY.

SO ONCE WE GET TO THE POINT WHERE THE DRIVEWAY IS GOING IN AND WE'RE LOOKING AT FINAL GRADE, WE WILL PROBABLY HAVE ANOTHER CONVERSATION, ANOTHER POTENTIAL MEETING TO DISCUSS AND MAKE SURE THAT THE ROUTES ARE CUT.

YOU KNOW, ANY CUT ROUTE REMAINS UNDERGROUND AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

SO THERE ARE SOME MINOR THINGS THAT WILL NEED TO TAKE PLACE WHEN THAT FINAL ASPECT OF THAT IS DONE, BUT AGAIN, THAT WILL BE MADE PART OF THEIR BUILDING PERMIT.

AND BASED ON EVERYTHING THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED WITH BOTH THE PROPERTY OWNER AND THE BUILDER, I DON'T SEE ANY ANY CONCERN WITH KNOWING THAT THEY WILL MEET OR EXCEED THE EXPECTATIONS THAT WE WOULD HAVE REGARDING THE THE SAFETY OF, YOU KNOW, OF THE TREE AND THE PRESERVATION OF THE TREE TO THE BEST OF THEIR ABILITY.

I WANT TO ASK A DUMB QUESTION, BUT WHY WOULD THEY NEED TO BE CUT? I GUESS FROM WHAT I SEE, I MEAN, I'M LOOKING AT THE PICTURES HERE AND STUFF LIKE THAT, AND IT SOUNDS LIKE IT SOUNDS THAT IF YOU WHEN I LOOK AT THE THE WHAT'S PLANNED HERE, IT SHOULD BE AROUND MOST OF THE ROUTES, AND I'M NOT SURE WHY YOU WOULD BE CUTTING IT.

AND IT MAY BE, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, SIR, I HAVEN'T BEEN OUT THERE WITH THE ACTUAL TAPE MEASURES AND ALL OF THAT KIND OF STUFF THEY DID.

THERE IS A LARGE MASS ON THE SURFACE. OH, ACTUALLY, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS CAN SEE THAT PICTURE NOW, BUT OKAY. YOU KNOW THOSE BIG MASSES THAT YOU SEE ABOVE GROUND, THEY HAVE GONE AROUND ALL OF THOSE.

WHEN I SAY THERE MAY BE SOME ROUTES CUT, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 1 TO 2 INCH ROUTES THAT MAY BE UNDER THERE AS WE'RE CHANGING THE GRADES THAT ARE IN THERE AND OR THE INSTALLATION OF THE PAVERS TO MEET REQUIRED FLOOD LEVELS.

YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT THINGS OF THAT NATURE. BUT THE MASSES OF ROUTES THAT YOU SEE IN THOSE PICTURES, THIS DRIVEWAY IS LIKE 7 OR 8. IT'S WAY PAST THOSE.

SO ANY OF THE PRUNING OF ROUTES WOULD BE VERY MINOR.

AS OPPOSED TO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT HAVING TO CUT INTO ANY OF THAT EXPOSED AREA THAT YOU SEE, THEY'VE THEY'VE GONE AROUND ALL OF THAT. I GUESS MY POINT WOULD BE IS MAKE IT ZERO AND JUST PUT THE GRAVE SO IT'S ON TOP OF IT. THE DIFFICULTY IS BECAUSE OF FLOOD REQUIREMENTS AND DRAINAGE REQUIREMENTS.

YOU COULD HAVE THE WATER FLOW AT THE HOUSE SO THAT, WELL, YOU FIX THE WHOLE THING.

LAST QUESTION ON THIS A-08. I MEAN, YOU GOT TO FIX THAT BECAUSE, I MEAN, YOU'RE PUTTING THE DUMPSTER RIGHT NEXT TO THIS THING.

THERE'S TREES RIGHT ON TOP OF IT. I THINK THAT WHATEVER'S THERE AS FAR AS WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO BE PARKING AND WHATEVER IT NEEDS TO BE FAR AWAY FROM THIS TREE.

HAVING BEEN THROUGH TWO CONSTRUCTIONS YOU KNOW, YOU'RE PUTTING DUMPSTERS THERE AND THINGS, AND THESE HUGE TRUCKS COME IN AND THINGS ON TOP OF IT.

SO I THINK THAT THAT'S GOT TO BE FIXED SO THAT IT'S THERE, THERE IS THERE WILL BE REQUIRED TREE PROTECTION WHEN THEY GET READY TO, TO BUILD AND SUCH. SO YOU KNOW, THE, THE PLANS THAT YOU'RE SEEING WITH THE SITE PLAN AND EVERYTHING, I DON'T NECESSARILY KNOW THAT WE'VE ALL SEEN THOSE AND GOTTEN ANY APPROVALS ON THOSE.

I KNOW I HAVEN'T APPROVED THIS, THIS BUILDING YET.

SO WHEN WE GET READY TO DO THE PARKING AND STUFF, WE'LL WORK WITH THEM.

AND LIKE I SAID, THEY ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE TREE PROTECTION UNDER OUR CODE.

THANK YOU. COMMENT. CAN I SWEAR YOU IN? SURE.

DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU'RE ABOUT TO GIVE IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? THANK YOU. PLEASE USE THE MICROPHONE. YES, SIR. HI. MIKE MORRIS HERE. YEAH. WE WILL HAVE A COMPLETE CONSTRUCTION FENCE, AS IS REQUIRED BY THE CITY OF NAPLES.

AROUND THAT TREE, THERE WILL BE NO DUMPSTER NEAR THAT TREE. NO PARKING ON THOSE ROUTES WHATSOEVER.

THANK YOU. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? AT THIS POINT, I'M GOING TO MAKE A GENERAL OBSERVATION.

AND I TOTALLY AGREE WITH STAFF. I'VE NEVER SEEN A VARIANCE APPLICATION THAT MET OUR REQUIREMENTS AS EASILY AS THIS ONE,

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AND WE'RE NOT IN THE POSITION OF MAKING LOTS UNBUILDABLE.

WE'RE IN THE POSITION OF HELPING PEOPLE DO THE BEST THEY CAN AND IMPROVE THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND PROTECT AS MUCH AS WE CAN.

AND I THINK THE EFFORTS TO PROTECT THIS TREE ARE COMMENDABLE.

COMMENT. YES. SORRY. I JUST WANTED TO CONFIRM.

I WAS AFTER PULLING UP THE STREET VIEW. I WANTED TO JUST CONFIRM THERE IS A STOP SIGN THERE ALREADY IN PLACE.

SO THAT THAT. YES. SO I JUST WANTED TO CONFIRM I DIDN'T HAVE THAT IN FRONT OF ME, BUT WE TYPICALLY LOOK AT THAT.

THANKS, ALISON. YEAH, I DID SEE THAT WHEN THIS PAGE CAME UP.

OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. I AGREE WITH YOUR COMMENTS.

TOTALLY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE A MOTION? I HAVE ONE MORE COMMENT. THERE'S NOTHING HERE THAT SHOWS WHAT THE LANDSCAPING IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE.

AND I'VE BEEN ON CERTAIN PLACES WHERE PEOPLE PUT IN HEDGES AND STUFF.

AND SO I CAN IMAGINE THAT DEPENDING UPON WHERE YOU PUT THE HEDGES HERE, YOU COULD DO IT SO YOU CAN WHERE YOU CAN'T SEE GOING AROUND THE CARS.

AND THERE'S OTHER PLACES WHERE IT WOULD BE EASY TO DO.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF WE MAKE A COMMENT NOW OR NOT, BUT I JUST SAY, THAT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'VE DONE A GREAT JOB IN TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU DO TRY TO DO AS A GOOD CITIZEN STUFF, BUT I WOULD JUST ENCOURAGE THAT.

WHEN IT COMES TO LANDSCAPING, YOU DON'T PUT A HEDGE RIGHT THREE FEET AWAY FROM THE THE ROAD AND STUFF SO PEOPLE CAN'T SEE FROM YOUR CAR, CAN SEE PEOPLE COMING AROUND THE CORNER.

THAT'S ALL. YEAH. WELL THERE'S NO INTENTION TO, TO TO DO ANYTHING THAT WOULD I MEAN, THAT WOULD BE BAD FOR, FOR FOR US ALSO IF YOU CAN'T SEE. SO THERE'S NO INTENTION TO DO ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD MAKE IT LESS SAFE. DO I HAVE A MOTION? I HAVE A COMMENT. I'D JUST LIKE TO CONGRATULATE THE OWNER, THE LANDSCAPERS, THE CITY PLANNERS.

IT SEEMS LIKE A WONDERFUL COLLABORATION IN TRYING TO MAKE A VERY DIFFICULT SITUATION.

AS GOOD AS IT CAN BE. SO I THINK EVERYBODY JUST DESERVES A LITTLE CONGRATULATIONS ON THIS.

I THINK IT'S REALLY NICE. THANK YOU. ANDREW. I'D ALSO LIKE TO ECHO THAT AND ALSO TO THE PREVIOUS PETITIONER AS WELL.

THE PRESENTATIONS HAVE BEEN SO CLEAR, SO ANSWERED, SO CONCISELY AND SO CONSCIOUS.

I'D LIKE TO PUT FORWARD A MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE PETITION, INCLUDING THE TWO POINTS IN THE STAFF REPORT FINDING PLUS A THIRD POINT.

AND THE THIRD POINT IS TO ENSURE THAT THERE IS PERVIOUS MATERIALS USED WHEREVER POSSIBLE IN THE CURRENT DRIVEWAY IN THE CONSTRUCTION. SECOND, THAT THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION? CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE. VICE CHAIR.

KAPPLER. YES. MEMBER. FOWLER. YES. MEMBER. BARONE.

YES. MEMBER. SCHULTZ. YES. MEMBER. MAYOR. YES.

MEMBER. CREASE. YES. CHAIR. COUGHLAN. YES. THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH.

NEXT ITEM IS SEVEN D. MR. CHAIR, IF I CAN MAKE A QUICK COMMENT ABOUT VARIANCES IN GENERAL.

[7.D. A Resolution Determining Conditional Use Petition 25-CU3 Pursuant to Sections 46-34 and 58-533 of the Code of Ordinances, City of Naples, to Allow for a Residential Dwelling Unit in the C1 Retail Shopping District on Property Owned by Chlumsky -- DAKY, LLC, and Located at 1199 Third Street South, Suite A, More Fully Described Herein; Providing for Scrivener's Errors; and Providing an Effective Date. (Erica Martin, Director of Planning)]

FOR FUTURE REFERENCES. IT'S BEEN MY EXPERIENCE THAT IT'S, IT'S REALLY NORMAL FOR APPLICANTS AND OTHER PEOPLE TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT.

IS THIS SETTING A PRECEDENT OR USING EVIDENCE OF OTHER SITUATIONS TO SUPPORT THEIR SITUATION? BUT THE LAW OF VARIANCES THAT YOU TAKE THEM ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS, ON THEIR FACTUAL BASIS, NOT NECESSARILY HOW MANY VARIANCES HAVE BEEN GRANTED IN THE PAST OR THE CONDITIONS IN THE PAST.

I JUST WANT YOU ALL TO BE AWARE OF THAT. THANK YOU.

OKAY. 7DA RESOLUTION DETERMINING CONDITIONAL USE PETITION 20 5Q3 PURSUANT TO SECTIONS 4634 AND 58 533 OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES. CITY OF NAPLES.

TO ALLOW FOR A RESIDENTIAL DWELLING UNIT IN THE C-1 RETAIL SHOPPING DISTRICT ON PROPERTY OWNED BY D K, LLC AND LOCATED AT 119 THIRD STREET SOUTH, SUITE A, MORE FULLY DESCRIBED HEREIN PROVIDING FOR SCRIVENER'S ERRORS AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THE APPLICANT, PLEASE. FIRST DISCLOSURES.

NO. FIRST, YOU GOT TO SWEAR. EVERYBODY IN. SWEAR EVERYBODY IN.

FIRST, PLEASE SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU'RE ABOUT TO GIVE IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH. YES. THANK YOU. OKAY.

DISCLOSURES BY THE BOARD. ONE CONVERSATION DRIVEN BY THE PROPERTY.

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WHO WAS THE CONVERSATION WITH THE PERSON WHO WROTE THIS LETTER? OKAY. THANK YOU. I'M GOING TO ABSTAIN. I HAVE TO ABSTAIN FROM THIS JUST DUE TO I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ACTUALLY AN ISSUE, BUT THERE'S KIND OF A.

AND SO I THINK IT'S BEST TO, FOR ANY KIND OF POTENTIAL.

I'LL JUST ABSTAIN FROM THIS ONE. YES. THIS MR. BROUGHT THIS TO MY ATTENTION THIS MORNING, APPARENTLY WITH REGARD TO THE LETTER THAT WAS SUBMITTED, TRIGGERED THAT TYPICALLY MATTHEW OR I GET A PHONE CALL A DAY OR TWO AHEAD OF TIME AND WE CAN DO THE PROPER YOU KNOW, CONFLICT EVALUATION. BUT IT'S ALWAYS BEEN MY ADVICE THAT IF THERE'S EVEN A REALLY AN APPEARANCE OF A CONFLICT, THAT IT'S, IT'S APPROPRIATE TO ABSTAIN. AND THEN THE, THE LAW REQUIRES TO DO EXACTLY WHAT MR. VARONE DID, WHICH WAS MAKE THE STATEMENT WHY HE'S ABSTAINING, AND THEN HE'LL REMOVE HIMSELF FROM THE DAIS, AND THEN HE'LL HAVE TO FILL OUT A FORM THAT THE CLERK'S ABOUT TO GIVE HIM.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANDREW. NOTHING TO DISCLOSE.

NOTHING TO DISCLOSE. NOTHING TO DISCLOSE. AWARE OF THE PROPERTY? NOTHING TO DISCLOSE. LIKEWISE. AND I'VE LOOKED AT THE PROPERTY CAREFULLY IN CONNECTION WITH THIS APPLICATION.

I ASSUME THAT'S NOTHING ELSE TO DISCLOSE. NOTHING FURTHER TO DISCLOSE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY. THE APPLICANT PLEASE.

GOOD MORNING, CHAIRMAN COUGHLIN. FRANCESCA PASSIDOMO.

FOR THE RECORD, OUR FIRM REPRESENTS THE CHLUMSKY FAMILY IN THIS PETITION FOR A CONDITIONAL USE.

HERE WITH ME TODAY IS THE FAMILY'S ARCHITECT, FRANK OTTO, IN THE AUDIENCE.

TO HELP ADDRESS ANY TECHNICAL QUESTIONS, AS WELL AS MR. AND MRS. CHLUMSKY, NICK AND LISA CHLUMSKY I WILL INTRODUCE THIS PROPOSAL, AND MR. AND MRS. CHLUMSKY WILL PROVIDE A FEW PERSONAL REMARKS ON ON THE PURPOSE OF THIS PETITION FOR THE FAMILY.

THEN I WILL TAKE YOU THROUGH THE PLANNING PRINCIPLES AND CRITERIA TO DEMONSTRATE THAT THIS REQUEST TO CONVERT THE SECOND STORY COMMERCIAL SPACE TO A SINGLE RESIDENTIAL DWELLING UNIT IS FIRST CONSISTENT WITH AND FURTHERS THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, SECOND, REDUCES NONCONFORMITY AND INTENSITY, AND THIRD, PRESERVES THE ARCHITECTURAL CHARACTER AND ICONIC CHLUMSKY BUILDING.

CONSTRUCTED OVER 60 YEARS AGO BY THE CHLUMSKY FAMILY THREE GENERATIONS AGO.

IT SOUNDS THAT YOU'RE ALL FAMILIAR WITH THE SITE.

THE BUILDING IS LOCATED IN THE THIRD STREET DISTRICT, WHICH HAS DEVELOPED OVER TIME WITH A MIXTURE OF USES.

THE BUILDING IS SURROUNDED BY A MIXED USE BUILDING TO THE EAST, CAMPIELLO RESTAURANT TO THE NORTH, THIRD STREET TO THE WEST, AND 12TH STREET TO THE SOUTH.

YOU CAN SEE HERE THE THE BUILDING. IT IS RECESSED FROM THIRD STREET BY APPROXIMATELY 18FT.

THE ICONIC PILLARS I REMEMBER GROWING UP HERE IN THIS BUILDING BEING VERY DISTINCTIVE TO ME.

AGAIN, THE REQUEST IS TO CONVERT THE SECOND STORY, WHICH IS COMPRISED OF SEVEN OFFICE SUITES, TYPICALLY 14 OR MORE EMPLOYEES TO ONE RESIDENTIAL DWELLING UNIT.

WITH THAT, I WILL ALLOW IF WITH YOUR PERMISSION, MR. AND MRS. CHLUMSKY WILL COME TO THE PODIUM AND JUST SAY A FEW WORDS.

YES. THANK YOU. THEY WERE SWORN. YES. GOOD MORNING, CHAIRMAN, PLANNING ADVISORY BOARD, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME THIS MORNING AND HEARING OUR PETITION FOR THIS CONDITIONAL USE.

OUR COUNCIL, THE PROFESSIONAL HAS IS, IS AND HAS PROVIDED SOME OF THE TECHNICAL ATTRIBUTES OF, OF OUR REQUEST. SO I'M GOING TO SHARE WITH YOU A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE THAT THE PERSONAL SIDE OF, OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE HERE. SO JUST A QUICK HISTORY.

MY GRANDPARENTS MADE THEIR WINTER HOME HERE IN THE 1940S.

THEY THEN MADE NAPLES THEIR PERMANENT HOME IN THE 1950S.

BOTH SETS OF MY GRANDPARENTS LIVED NEXT TO EACH OTHER DOWN ON THE BEACH ON GORDON DRIVE IN THE EARLY 60S.

AND THAT'S HOW MY PARENTS MET. LITERALLY, THEY LIVED NEXT DOOR TO EACH OTHER.

MY PARENTS WERE MARRIED AND BOUGHT THEIR FIRST HOME ON 14TH AVENUE SOUTH IN 1963, BETWEEN THE FOURTH AND THE FIFTH STREET BLOCKS VERY CLOSE TO THE AREA.

MY FATHER THEN BUILT THE BUILDINGS ON THE BLOCK OF 13TH AVENUE SOUTH AND THIRD STREET, WHERE THE OLD NAPLES SURF SHOP AND BETH MONET AND MANY OTHER TENANTS RESIDE TODAY.

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SINCE THAT TIME, MY FATHER WAS A GOOD STEWARD TO THE BUILDINGS THAT HE BUILT, THE TENANTS THAT OCCUPY THOSE BUILDINGS, AND HIS FAMILY HE PROMOTED STABILITY IN HIS OWN FAMILY, HIS FAMILY OF TENANTS AND THE GENERAL THIRD STREET AREA.

AS A KID, I WORKED AROUND THE BUILDING, STARTING OUT WITH SIMPLE, MUNDANE TASKS LIKE PICKING UP GARBAGE, SPRAYING WEEDS, FERTILIZING BUSHES, AND THEN GRADUATED TO MORE SOPHISTICATED PROJECTS LIKE CLEANING THE FOUNTAIN THAT USED TO BE IN FRONT OF THE OLD NAPLES SURF SHOP, AND PAINTING THE FASCIA BOARD ON THE FRONT OF THE BUILDINGS.

TODAY YOU KNOW, I MANAGE ALL ASPECTS OF THE BUILDINGS, BOTH LEGAL, FINANCIAL AND AND LOGISTICAL.

AS YOU CAN SEE, LITERALLY NOTHING HAS CHANGED WITH OUR PROPERTY SINCE THE DAY MY GRANDFATHER BUILT THE CHLUMSKY FAMILY BUILDING, THE BRICK BUILDING THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY. AS WELL AS THE OTHER BUILDINGS THAT HOUSE, YOU KNOW, TODAY, THE OLD NAPLES SURF SHOP ON PAYPAL, PAPER MERCHANT AND MANY OTHER TENANTS.

WE HAVE RECEIVED NOTHING BUT SUPPORT FROM OUR TENANTS, NEIGHBORING BUSINESSES AND EVEN THE NAPLES HISTORICAL SOCIETY.

AND WE'RE QUITE FRANKLY SHOCKED WHEN WE RECEIVED NEAPOLITAN ENTERPRISES LETTER OBJECTING TO OUR REQUEST FOR THE CONDITIONAL USE, CITING THAT THIS REQUEST IS INCOMPATIBLE WITH NEAPOLITAN ENTERPRISES, HAS HAD COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL TENANTS COEXISTING IN MULTIPLE BUILDINGS WITHIN THE THIRD STREET AREA SINCE THE 1960S. WE DO TRULY BELIEVE THAT WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING HERE IS A BENEFIT TO THE THIRD STREET AREA.

OTHERWISE, WE WOULD NOT BE PROPOSING IT IN THE FIRST PLACE.

AGAIN, WE WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME THIS MORNING AND FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION IN THIS CONDITIONAL USE APPLICATION.

THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS FOR US? ONE IS THERE ANY THOUGHT OF MAKING THIS AN AIRBNB? NO THANK YOU. NO. JUST JUST TO CLARIFY THIS, I AM THE OWNER.

OUR FAMILY OWNS THIS PROPERTY AND THE INTENDED USE IS IS FOR US TO BE THE END USERS OF THIS PROPERTY.

SO NO TRANSIENT TYPE OF SITUATION. THIS WOULD BE OUR HOME.

YOU'RE WELCOME. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS.

THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR TIME THIS MORNING. THANK YOU FOR THE INDULGENCE.

OKAY. AS NOTED AT THE OUTSET, I'LL WALK YOU THROUGH THE CORE PLANNING PRINCIPLES AND THEN MOVE INTO THE CRITERIA.

THE FIRST CORE PLANNING PRINCIPLE DEVELOPED THROUGH THE CITY'S VISION PLAN AND THE CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, ACKNOWLEDGES THE IMPORTANCE OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION AND ENCOURAGES RENOVATION BY ENABLING CREATIVE ALTERNATIVES TO FACILITATE PRESERVATION.

THE CHLUMSKY FAMILY HAVE CREATIVELY REIMAGINED THE SECOND STORY TO PRESERVE THE BUILDING AS AN ASSET TO BOTH THE CITY AND TO THE FAMILY. THE PROPOSAL IS CONSISTENT WITH THESE OFTEN UNDERAPPRECIATED CORE PLANNING PRINCIPLES.

THE SECOND CORE PLANNING PRINCIPLE, EXPRESSED BY THE CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, ACKNOWLEDGES APPROVALS WHICH REDUCE A NONCONFORMITY IS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN NONCONFORMITIES WITH RESPECT TO INTENSITY OF PARKING, DEMAND FOR THE EXISTING BUILDING ARE SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCED BY THE PLAN. THE PROPOSAL IS CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING POLICY EXPRESSLY ACKNOWLEDGING THE FRAMEWORK FOR NONCONFORMITIES. THE THIRD CORE PLANNING PRINCIPLE, ENCOURAGED BY THE CITY'S VISION PLAN AND THE CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SUPPORTS A MIXTURE OF USES, SPECIFICALLY IN COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS TO ENSURE THESE AREAS MAINTAIN A DISTINCT CHARACTER AND CHARM, AND PROMOTES MIXED USE LAND PATTERNS TO FACILITATE WALKABILITY AND ENVIRONMENTALLY CENSORED LAND USE PLANNING.

THE FOURTH CORE PLANNING PRINCIPLE IS AN INTEGRATION OF RESIDENTIAL IN THE SAME BUILDING AS A PERMITTED COMMERCIAL USE.

IN CONCURRENCE WITH THIS POLICY. THE CHLUMSKY BUILDING INCLUDES BOUTIQUE RETAIL ON THE FIRST FLOOR.

AS MR. CHLUMSKY WALKED YOU THROUGH AND PROPOSES A SINGLE RESIDENTIAL DWELLING UNIT ON THE SECOND FLOOR,

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AS TESTIFIED BY EXPERT PLANNING STAFF IN THE REPORT, AND AS REFLECTED IN BOTH THE DEVELOPMENT OF THIRD STREET AS WELL AS THE CITY'S VISION AND COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THE RESIDENTIAL UNIT IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE PERMITTED USES IN THE CHLUMSKY BUILDING.

THIS IS A MAP THAT SHOWS THE PATTERN OF MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT ON THIRD STREET, CREATING A FABRIC TO PROMOTE THE 24 HOUR USE THAT IS FUNDAMENTAL TO THE UNDERLYING DISTRICT DESIGNATION. THE CRITERIA TO BE CONSIDERED FOR A CONDITIONAL USE IN THIS QUASI JUDICIAL HEARING ARE.

I'LL WALK YOU THROUGH EACH OF THESE. YOU WILL NOTE FROM THE STAFF REPORT THAT STAFF FINDS THAT THESE CRITERIA HAVE BEEN SATISFIED.

HOWEVER, FOR PURPOSES OF THE RECORD, I WILL PROVIDE OUR OWN RESPONSES WITH RESPECT TO INGRESS AND EGRESS.

NO MODIFICATIONS ARE PLANNED OR PROPOSED. THE RENOVATION IS INTERIOR ONLY.

INTERIOR ADJUSTMENTS TO THE SECOND STORY WILL COMPLY WITH THE FLORIDA BUILDING CODE FOR RESIDENTIAL USE.

THE PROPOSED RENOVATION WILL INCREASE PEDESTRIAN CONVENIENCE AND ACCESS TO SHOPS, BUSINESSES AND AMENITIES OF THIRD STREET, WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION ANTICIPATES.

NO OFF STREET PARKING AND LOADING AREAS ARE REQUIRED OR REQUESTED.

THE CHLUMSKY FAMILY INTEND TO INDEED, THROUGH THIS REQUEST, DIMINISH PARKING DEMAND AND REDUCE NONCONFORMITIES.

REFUSE AND SERVICE AREAS WILL NOT BE CHANGED OR MOVED FROM THEIR CURRENT LOCATION.

IT IS EXPECTED THAT THE AMOUNT OF SOLID WASTE WILL DECREASE THROUGH A CONVERSION FROM COMMERCIAL TO RESIDENTIAL.

WITH RESPECT TO UTILITIES, THEY ARE ADEQUATE AND AVAILABLE.

ANY ADJUSTMENT TO UTILITIES WILL NOT IMPACT THE CHARACTER OF THE BUILDING, AND WILL BE EFFECTUATED WITH THE BUILDING PERMIT, IN CONJUNCTION WITH INTERIOR RENOVATIONS. THE REQUEST WITH RESPECT TO THE CREATION OF NUISANCE OR HAZARDOUS FEATURES DOES NOT PRESENT ANY OF THOSE TYPES OF EXTERNAL IMPACTS.

THERE IS NO PROPOSED CHANGE TO LIGHTING OR SIGNAGE.

AGAIN, ONE OF THE FUNDAMENTAL PRINCIPLES OF THIS PETITION IS RETAINING THE CHARACTER OF THE BUILDING FROM THE EXTERIOR.

WITH RESPECT TO HINDERING DEVELOPMENT OF NEARBY VACANT PROPERTIES.

THERE ARE NONE. THE HOTEL IS THE ONLY SOMEWHAT NEARBY VACANT PROPERTY AT THE TIME OF THE AERIAL PHOTOGRAPHY, BUT AS YOU ALL KNOW, IN DRIVING BY THE SITE THAT'S NEARLY COMPLETED.

THE BUILDING SIZE, SHAPE AND TYPE IS ADEQUATE FOR THE SINGLE RESIDENTIAL UNIT AS VERIFIED BY OUR ARCHITECT IN THEIR LETTER SUBMITTED WITH OUR PETITION.

INTERIOR RENOVATIONS TO CONVERT THE EXISTING COMMERCIAL SPACE TO A RESIDENTIAL UNIT WILL BE ADEQUATE AND IN CONFORMITY WITH ALL REQUIREMENTS OF THE FLORIDA BUILDING CODE.

IN TERMS OF COMPATIBILITY AND APPROPRIATENESS.

IN ADDITION TO THE CORE PLANNING PRINCIPLES WE WALKED YOU THROUGH AT THE OUTSET OF THIS PRESENTATION, THE LIMITED COMMERCIAL FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION AND C1 RETAIL SHOPPING DISTRICT EACH ENVISIONED THE COMPATIBILITY OF THE MIXTURE OF USES TO SUPPORT LOCAL BUSINESSES AND ENCOURAGE CONSOLIDATED PEDESTRIAN ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT.

AND FOR COLLECTIVE IMPACT OF NONRESIDENTIAL USES, THIS CRITERIA IS INAPPLICABLE INSOFAR AS THIS IS A SUBMISSION OF A RESIDENTIAL UNIT. YOU YOU WILL FIND IN YOUR PACKET ALSO LETTERS OF SUPPORT, WHICH I JUST HIGHLIGHT HERE.

IN THE EVENT YOU DIDN'T REVIEW THOSE SEPARATELY.

THESE ARE IN IMPORTANT LETTERS OF SUPPORT IN THAT THIS THIS DEMONSTRATE THERE IS THERE IS A VISION FOR THIRD STREET. AND MANY OF THESE LETTERS ARE ARE, ARE CREATING THAT VISION. THE CHLUMSKY'S HAVE BEEN AGAIN PARTICIPANTS AND OWNERS ON THIRD STREET FOR OVER 60 YEARS.

I PRESENT THIS TO YOU BECAUSE I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE ALL ARE LOOKING AT THE CRITERIA AND THE PLANNING PRINCIPLES, BUT TO THE EXTENT THAT ONE PROPERTY OWNER HAS A SEPARATE VISION FOR THIRD STREET, I WANT TO ENSURE THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT THE DIVERSITY OF VISIONS IN ADDITION TO WHAT IS REALLY IN FRONT OF YOU TODAY, WHICH IS WHETHER OR NOT THE PETITION SATISFY THE CRITERIA.

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IN CONCLUSION, THE CITY'S VISION PLAN AND THE CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SUPPORT THE PRESERVATION OF HISTORIC BUILDINGS IN OLD NAPLES AND ENCOURAGE CREATIVE SOLUTIONS TO PROMOTE THE PRESERVATION OF CITY'S HISTORIC LANDMARK BUILDINGS.

THE BUILDING IS ONE OF THE OLDEST COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS IN THE CITY.

THE CHLUMSKY FAMILY'S VISION IS TO PROTECT THIS HISTORICALLY SIGNIFICANT BUILDING THROUGH REPURPOSING THEIR ASSET TO FIT THE NEEDS OF THE FAMILY.

AGAIN, THEY'RE STEWARDS OF THIRD STREET. THEY'RE MAINTAINING SEVERAL PROPERTIES ON THIRD STREET, AND MR. CHLUMSKY TESTIFIED THAT THE INTENTION IS FOR THE FAMILY TO OCCUPY THE SPACE.

THE CITY'S VISION PLAN AND COMPREHENSIVE PLAN PROMOTE A MIXTURE OF USES IN A SINGLE DISTRICT TO ENCOURAGE WALKABILITY, COMPACT DEVELOPMENT, AND REDUCE GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS.

THE CHLUMSKY'S PROPOSAL FACILITATES A VERTICALLY INTEGRATED MIXED USE BUILDING, ELIMINATES THE INTENSITY OF SEVEN OFFICE SUITES, AND REDUCES NONCONFORMITIES. WITH THAT, I CLOSE MY OPENING REMARKS AND OPEN IT TO QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU.

STAFF REPORT. GOOD MORNING, BOARD MEMBERS, JEFF BRAMER WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT.

THE PETITIONER IS REQUESTING APPROVAL FOR A CONDITIONAL USE TO ALLOW FOR A RESIDENTIAL DWELLING UNIT IN THE C1 RETAIL SHOPPING DISTRICT.

THIS UNIT WILL BE LOCATED ON THE SECOND FLOOR OF THE BUILDING, WHICH IS LOCATED AT THE CORNER OF THIRD STREET SOUTH AND 12TH AVENUE SOUTH.

THIS IS IN THE THIRD STREET OVERLAY DISTRICT WITH A LIMITED COMMERCIAL FUTURE.

LAND USE DESIGNATION. CITY CODE ALLOWS RESIDENTIAL DWELLING UNITS HERE, PROVIDED THEY ARE COMPATIBLE WITH A PERMITTED USE AND LOCATED WITHIN THE SAME BUILDING OR GROUP OF BUILDINGS AS THE PERMITTED USE. THERE IS A PERMITTED DENSITY OF UP TO EIGHT UNITS PER ACRE.

OF COURSE, THIS IS ONE UNIT, THREE BEDROOMS, THREE BATHS, A KITCHEN, A DEN, AND A LIVING AND DINING ROOM AREA.

PARKING FOR THE PROPERTY IS A BIT CONVOLUTED.

THE HISTORICAL DETAILS OF THIS ARE DESCRIBED IN THE STAFF REPORT, BUT QUICKLY FOR BACKGROUND.

THE BUILDING WAS CONSTRUCTED IN 1963. AT THE TIME, ZONING DID NOT REQUIRE UPSTAIRS USES TO PROVIDE PARKING.

THE THEN ZONING CODE ALSO HAD AN EXEMPTION FOR CORNER LOTS, WHICH THIS IS TO DECREASE SIX PARKING SPACES FROM THE REQUIRED ALLOTMENT.

ALL THINGS CONSIDERED, THE PROPERTY REQUIRED TWO PARKING SPACES AT THE TIME WITH THE SIX SPACE ALLOWANCE FROM THE INITIAL REQUIREMENT OF EIGHT.

FOR MANY YEARS THEY APPEARED TO COMPLY. THERE WAS PARKING IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THE BUILDING.

FAST FORWARD A FEW DECADES, THE AREA HAS BEEN REDEVELOPED.

NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES ARE NOW BUILDINGS THAT PARKING IS GONE AND THE SITE IS NO LONGER HAVE ON SITE PARKING AVAILABILITY.

TODAY, THE PROPERTY APPEARS TO BE A LAWFUL NONCONFORMITY.

AS A PRACTICAL MATTER, ITS PARKING IS PROVIDED BY A COMBINATION OF ON STREET AND OFF STREET PARKING.

IT'S WORTH NOTING THAT UNDER TODAY'S CODE, THE RETAIL AND OFFICE USES FOR THE BUILDING WOULD REQUIRE A TOTAL OF 22 SPACES.

11 OF THOSE FOR THE UPSTAIRS OFFICES. TODAY, THOSE OFFICE USES ARE ALLOWED TO CONTINUE AS IS.

GENERALLY, WHEN THERE IS A CHANGE IN USE, THE PROPERTY IS REQUIRED TO BE BROUGHT UP TO CURRENT CODE.

OF COURSE, AS A RESIDENTIAL DWELLING UNIT, THIS ACTION WOULD ESSENTIALLY DECREASE THE NONCONFORMITY BY NINE SPACES, AS THE NEW REQUIREMENT WOULD BE TWO SPACES. PETITION HAS BEEN REVIEWED BY ALL CITY DEPARTMENTS WITH NO REPORTED ISSUES.

LAST MONTH, LETTERS WERE MAILED TO ALL PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 1000FT OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.

TO DATE, STAFF HAS RECEIVED A FEW LETTERS FROM THE PUBLIC REGARDING THIS REQUEST.

I BELIEVE FOUR LETTERS OF SUPPORT WHICH ARE ATTACHED TO THE AGENDA ITEM THAT ARE IN YOUR PACKETS.

ALSO, ONE LETTER OF OBJECTION WHICH WAS DISTRIBUTED TO THE BOARD THIS MORNING.

THE NATURE OF THOSE CONCERNS WERE NOT SO MUCH ABOUT PARKING, BUT ABOUT THE POTENTIAL REACTION OF A RESIDENTIAL DWELLING UNIT BEING OCCUPIED TO NEARBY OUTDOOR DINING AND LIVE ENTERTAINMENT.

PURSUANT TO SECTION 4006 34 OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, STAFF HAS APPLIED THE CONDITIONAL USE STANDARDS TO THIS REQUEST FOR RESIDENTIAL DWELLING UNIT IN THE C-1 RETAIL SHOPPING DISTRICT AND THE LIMITED COMMERCIAL COMMERCIAL FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION AND FINDS THE STANDARDS HAVE BEEN MET.

THAT CONCLUDES MY COMMENTS FOR NOW. OF COURSE I'M AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS, BUT THANK YOU, BOARD MEMBERS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WISH TO SPEAK? I HAVE NO SLIPS. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. DISCUSSION QUESTIONS BY THE BOARD.

I'M GOING TO MAKE A COMMENT BEFORE WE BEGIN. GENERALLY, I'M VERY MUCH IN FAVOR OF RESIDENTIAL UNITS MIXED WITH COMMERCIAL.

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I THINK IT TAKES AWAY TRAFFIC. IT MAKES COMMUNITY MORE WALKABLE, AND I THINK IT'S A POSITIVE THING.

I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THE COMMENT FROM THE ONE PERSON THAT'S OBJECTING, BUT I GUESS I HAVE A QUESTION.

AND THAT IS IF IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THE ONE OF THE CONCERNS IN THE IN THE LETTER IS THAT THE NOISE AND THE HULLABALOO FROM THE RESTAURANT WILL CAUSE THE PEOPLE TO BECOME COMPLAINERS IN THE CITY OF NAPLES.

BUT AT LEAST MY HURRICANE GLASS SEEMS TO ALMOST COMPLETELY ELIMINATE A HUGE ELIMINATES A HUGE PERCENTAGE OF NOISE FACTORS. IS THE APPLICANT CONSIDERING PUTTING MORE SOUNDPROOFING ON THE SIDE THAT'S FACING THE RESTAURANT? ONE MOMENT. LET ME CONFER WITH MR. CAMMARATA.

ALL OF THE WINDOWS, WHICH ARE NOT NORTH FACING, BUT ALL THE WINDOWS WILL BE HURRICANE RESISTANT WINDOWS.

SO WE WILL BE REPLACING THE EXISTING WINDOWS WITH HURRICANE RESISTANT WINDOWS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? YES. MY IN MY WALK AROUND THE BUILDING, IT APPEARED THAT THE ENTIRE NORTH SIDE OF THE BUILDING IS BRICK WITH NO WINDOWS. IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. THERE ARE LOUVERS IN THE ATTIC FOR THE AIR CONDITIONING UNIT, BUT THERE ARE NO NORTHWARD FACING WINDOWS. NOR ARE.

NOR ARE ANY PROPOSED. PARDON ME. THANK YOU. ANDREW, I'D LIKE TO TALK TO THE PARKING AND THE CONSTRAINTS AND THE REQUIREMENTS FOR PARKING.

ESPECIALLY WITH THE CHANGE OF USAGE. I CAN UNDERSTAND THAT PRIOR TO THIS, THERE WAS, LET'S SAY, GRANDFATHER RULES. BUT AS THE CHANGES, USAGE IS SIGNIFICANT MY UNDERSTANDING AND THE ATTORNEY CAN SAY THAT THE GRANDFATHER RIGHTS DIMINISH WITH THAT CHANGE OF USAGE. SO WHAT ARE THE PROPOSED PARKING REQUIREMENTS REQUIREMENT BASED ON I UNDERSTAND IT BEING REDUCED FROM 11 TO 2, BUT THOSE 11 WERE. WERE NOT ALLOCATED BECAUSE OF PREVIOUS HISTORY.

BUT NOW WE HAVE THAT REQUIREMENT FOR THE TWO.

THE RESIDENTIAL. CAN YOU FROM STAFF TELL ME WHERE THOSE TWO PLACES HAVE BEEN ALLOCATED? THAT WAS A QUESTION THAT STAFF HAD FOR THE PETITIONER, AND I WOULD I WOULD LIKE TO DEFER.

TO GIVE HER AN OPPORTUNITY TO ANSWER THAT, BECAUSE I HAD THE SAME QUESTION ABOUT THAT.

IF I COULD, BEFORE SHE ANSWERS, I DO THINK THAT FROM A LEGAL PERSPECTIVE THE USE IS CHANGING.

AND I THINK PLANNER BRAMMER IS CORRECT, AND HIS STAFF REPORT THAT WHEN YOU CHANGE THE USE.

YOU'RE LOSING ANY, ANY PRIOR LEGAL NONCONFORMITY.

SO YOU HAVE TO BRING IT UP TO CODE. THAT'S THE LAW.

JUST JUST BEFORE THE PETITIONER. BUT THEY ARE ONLY CHANGING THE USAGE TO THE SECOND FLOOR.

CORRECT. SO IT'S ONLY THE SECOND FLOOR THAT OUR ATTENTION SHOULD BE FOCUSED TO.

AND I BELIEVE THE ANALYSIS THAT THEY DID WAS THAT HOW MANY PARKING SPACES WOULD HAVE BEEN FOR THOSE OFFICE SPACES.

AND IT WAS OFFICE. AND NOW IT'S GOING TO A SINGLE DWELLING UNIT.

SO THAT'S WHAT THEY HAVE TO ACCOMMODATE FOR THE PARKING ON THAT OCCURRENCE.

ACCORDING TO YOUR CURRENT CODE, THAT'S DONE AS WELL.

THANK YOU. YEAH.

I JUST WANTED TO PULL UP ONTO THE SCREEN THE THE HISTORY, THE DISCUSSION ON PARKING.

HOWEVER, THE REDUCTION IN NONCONFORMITY RUNS WITH THE NONCONFORMITY RUNS WITH THE LAND.

THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SPECIFICALLY ACKNOWLEDGES THAT A D INTENSIFICATION DOES NOT CHANGE THE NONCONFORMING STATUS WITH RESPECT TO PARKING.

SO THOUGH THE USE CHANGES, WE'RE LOOKING AT THE NONCONFORMITY THAT IS ATTACHED TO THE BUILDING.

AND WE ARE SUBMITTING THAT THE PARKING DEMAND IS GOING TO SIGNIFICANTLY BE REDUCED THROUGH THIS REQUEST WITH THAT'S OUR LEGAL ANALYSIS, THAT'S WHAT WE'VE SUBMITTED WITH THIS PETITION.

AND FRANKLY, I DON'T THINK WE'D BE IN FRONT OF YOU TODAY IF THERE WERE WAS A DIFFERING OPINION WITH RESPECT TO THE NONCONFORMING STATUS AND THE RESIDENTIAL USE.

FROM A PRACTICAL PERSPECTIVE, YOU HEARD MR. AND MRS. CHLUMSKY TESTIFY THAT THEIR INTENTION IS TO OCCUPY THE SPACE.

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THEY OWN SEVERAL PROPERTIES ON THIRD STREET. THIS WILL ESSENTIALLY BE A FAMILY MANAGEMENT UNIT, SO WE DON'T EXPECT FOR THERE TO BE ANY PRACTICAL DEMAND FOR PARKING FOR THIS UNIT, FOR THE FAMILY.

THANK YOU FOR THAT. I STILL THINK THAT THERE'S THERE'S SOME MISUSE OF THE WORD REDUCTION OF THE NONCONFORMITY, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THAT THAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE.

I AGREE WITH THE NONCONFORMITY IS GOING AWAY.

IT'S CHANGING FROM OFFICE USE TO RESIDENTIAL USE ON THE UPSTAIRS OF THIS BUILDING.

YEAH. OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMENTS? YEAH. WHAT HAPPENED TO THE BUSINESSES THAT USED TO OCCUPY THAT SPACE? AS RECENTLY AS A FEW MONTHS AGO. WE HAVE SOME PHOTOGRAPHS.

THOSE BUSINESS LEASES WERE NOT RENEWED. AND IN ANTICIPATION OF THIS PETITION MOVING FORWARD.

HOWEVER, THERE ARE MR. AND MRS. CHLUMSKY CAN TESTIFY THAT THERE ARE SEVERAL TENANTS INTERESTED IN THIS SPACE, AS ARE DEVELOPERS AND PURCHASING THE BUILDING.

SO CURRENTLY THE SPACE IS VACANT. HOWEVER, IT HAS INTEREST TO BE RELEASED.

THIS THESE ARE PHOTOGRAPHS OF IT BEING ACTIVELY OCCUPIED BY THE BY THE FORMER TENANTS.

THERE WERE APPROXIMATELY 14 TO 15 EMPLOYEES IN THAT SPACE AT THE TIME.

I HAVE A QUESTION. DOES THE OWNER HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DEDICATE TWO PARKING SPACES SOMEWHERE IN THE VICINITY TO PARKING FOR THIS UNIT? IN OUR IN OUR OPINION, IN WHAT WE'VE SUBMITTED THE USE, THE REDUCTION IN REQUIRED PARKING DOES NOT NECESSITATE OFF SITE PARKING.

HOWEVER, AS A PRACTICAL MATTER, THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT WILL BE HAPPENING, MR. COUGHLIN. THEY WILL BE USING OTHER THEIR OTHER PROPERTY IN THE AREA TO PARK.

THE UNIT FOR THE FAMILY. SO THERE'S NOT THERE'S NOT A COMMITMENT.

AND WE DON'T BELIEVE THERE'S A NEED FOR A LEGAL COMMITMENT AS A CONDITION.

I GUESS ONE OF THE CONCERNS I HAVE, AS MUCH AS ALL OF US WOULD LIKE TO LIVE FOREVER.

CIRCUMSTANCES DO CHANGE. EITHER THROUGH AGING OR THROUGH SALE OF BUILDING.

AND I THINK AS WE LOOK AT THIS, WE'VE GOT TO LOOK THAT UNDERSTAND THAT THE KAMINSKI'S MAY NOT BE THE TENANT AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE AND TRY TO MINIMIZE THE IMPACT OF THAT. SO THAT'S WHY I'M EXPLORING.

IF THERE WERE A DEDICATED SPACE, IF IF THEY WERE FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO HAVE AN EXTRA SPACE OR TWO FLOATING AROUND THE THE THIRD STREET AREA.

YEAH, IT MIGHT SOLVE THAT PROBLEM FOR THE FUTURE.

SO THAT'S WHAT MY CONCERN IS. UNDERSTOOD. AND THAT WAS ANALYZED WITH THE WITH THE EXPECTATION OF IT AS A NONCONFORMITY.

PROVIDING AND DEDICATING EXCLUSIVE PARKING SPACES IN OTHER PROPERTIES IS IS NOT PRACTICALLY ACHIEVABLE.

THOSE PARKING SPACES ARE ALLOCATED FOR THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS FOR THOSE BUILDINGS.

WELL, YOU KNOW, I THINK PART OF OUR RESPONSIBILITY IN EVALUATING THESE THINGS IS I LIKE PERFECTION.

BUT ON THE OTHER HAND, ELIMINATING SEVEN NEED FOR SEVEN SPACES ALSO MAY BE A STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.

SECOND QUESTION I HAVE HOW DO THE AIRBNB RULES OF NAPLES? I KNOW THEY DON'T INTEND TO DO IT, BUT IMPACT WHAT WOULD BE THE REQUIREMENT IF THIS BECAME A RESIDENTIAL TRANSIENT? LODGING IS A COMPLETELY SEPARATE USE AND IT WOULD REQUIRE A SEPARATE APPROVAL.

SO THEY ARE NOT ALLOWED TO SHORT TERM RENT THIS RESIDENTIAL UNIT.

OKAY, THAT'S WHAT I NEEDED TO KNOW. OTHER QUESTIONS MAYBE.

I GUESS TO THAT POINT, ERICA, WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO PUT A CONDITION ON THIS SINCE THEY'VE STIPULATED THAT THERE'S IT'S NOT GOING TO BE TRANSIENT, MAYBE AS PART OF THE APPROVAL, STIPULATE THAT THIS WILL NOT BE CONVERTED TO TRANSIENT OR USED FOR TRANSIENT.

YEAH. THE PETITIONER DOES NOT OBJECT TO THAT QUESTION.

MY CONCERN IS ON AGAIN ON PARKING. PARKING, AS WE KNOW, IS PROBLEMATIC, PARTICULARLY IN THE SEASON HERE.

THIS IS A CHANGE OF USE. OUR CODE DOES DICTATE THAT CHANGE OF USE.

THE GRANDFATHERED ISSUES GO AWAY. SO I WOULD BE LOOKING FOR TWO DEDICATED PARKING SPACES TO TO SEE THIS GO FORWARD.

OTHER COMMENTS. QUESTION. WHAT DO YOU YOUR NEAPOLITAN RAISED THE THE CONCERN ABOUT POTENTIALLY A NUISANCE CLAIM BEING BROUGHT AT SOME STAGE IN THE FUTURE. HAVE YOU GIVEN ANY ANY THOUGHT TO THAT ISSUE AND HOW YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO SATISFY NEAPOLITAN OF THOSE CONCERNS? ABSOLUTELY.

FIRST OF ALL, WE DID REVIEW THE LIVE ENTERTAINMENT PERMITS FOR THE RESTAURANTS NOTED IN THAT LETTER,

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AND THEY ARE INDOOR LIVE ENTERTAINMENT. HOWEVER FROM FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF THE CHLUMSKY'S THEY COEXIST WITH THIRD STREET.

I DON'T THINK THAT WAS MISS WALKER'S CONCERN.

IF AND WHEN THE BUILDING IS SOLD, IT IS. IT IS PROTECTIVE OF THE CHLUMSKY'S.

IF SOMETHING HAPPENS. TERRIBLE WHERE THEY HAVE TO SELL THE BUILDING, WHICH IS NOT THE INTENTION, BUT IF SOMETHING HORRIBLE HAPPENS, IT'S PROTECTIVE OF THEM TO DISCLOSE TO THAT BUYER THAT THE RESIDENTIAL UNIT IS IN A MIXED USE AREA, THAT THERE ARE COMMERCIAL USES IN THE AREA. CLEARLY, THESE USES COEXIST IN MULTIPLE PROPERTIES ON THIRD STREET WITHOUT ISSUE.

SO THAT'S OUR RESPONSE TO TO THAT THAT PARTICULAR CONCERN, MISTER CHAIR, TO THAT POINT.

WHAT I'VE SEEN HAPPEN WHEN YOU HAVE SITUATIONS LIKE THIS AND PEOPLE ARE MOVING INTO A HIGH ACTIVITY NOISE AREA THAT TO ENSURE THAT, YOU KNOW, A SUCCESSFUL SUCCESSOR BUYER WOULD BE PUT ON NOTICE, IS TO WHATEVER IS RECORDED AS FAR AS THE APPROVAL WOULD BE AN ACKNOWLEDGMENT THAT THEY ARE THEY ARE GOING INTO A HIGH ACTIVITY AREA WHERE THEY MAY EXPERIENCE OUTDOOR MUSIC AND NOISE, AND THAT WAY IT ENSURES THAT THEY ARE PUT ON NOTICE.

AND HOW WOULD THAT COME TO BE? IT CAN BE RECORDED IN THE PUBLIC RECORD AS DO WE RECORD THE ANYTHING THE RESOLUTIONS OR ORDINANCES IN THE PUBLIC RECORD? I MEAN, THEY'RE NOT RECORDED WITH THE CITY RECORDER OR WITH THE I'M SORRY, THE COURTS OVER THERE. RIGHT. YEAH. A COVENANT CAN BE RECORDED EASILY SO THAT WHOEVER BUYS IT AFTER THIS, THEY UNDERSTAND THAT THERE MIGHT BE OTHER OUTDOOR DINING PERMITS IN THE FUTURE.

I MEAN, SOMEONE MAY COME IN AND AND REQUEST THAT, OR THERE MAY BE OTHER ACTIVITIES.

SO I'VE SEEN THIS WHERE RESIDENTIAL HAS BEEN APPROVED IN AREAS CLOSE TO INDUSTRIAL AREAS.

AND THE IDEA IS THAT YOU'RE COMING TO THE NUISANCE AND BUYER BEWARE.

AND SO YOU DON'T WANT TO PUT IT ON THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE FUTURE REALTOR TO DO THEIR JOB CORRECTLY.

YEAH. THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD.

CONTRARY TO THE OPINION YOU EXPRESSED EARLIER ABOUT YOUR VIEW OF THE RESIDENTIAL AND THE COMMERCIAL, BEING TOGETHER IS USEFUL. I'M DIAMETRICALLY OPPOSED TO THAT VIEW.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS.

CAN WE CAN WE ADD THIS TO THE. I WAS GOING TO PUT CONDITIONS ON, AND THEN YOU CAN LET ME KNOW IF THAT WORKS, BUT I WOULD MOVE TO APPROVE THIS SUBJECT TO THREE ADDITIONAL CONDITIONS.

ONE, THAT THERE BE NO BE ACKNOWLEDGMENT THAT THERE ARE NO TRANSIENT RENTALS PERMITTED.

NUMBER TWO, THAT THEY WOULD IN FACT USE HIGH STANDARD HURRICANE TYPE CLASS FOR THE PURPOSE OF SOUND ATTENUATION, AND THAT THEY SIGN AN ACKNOWLEDGMENT THAT THIS IS A HIGH ACTIVITY AREA WITH POSSIBLE NOISE CHANGE.

CHANGES IN NOISE LEVELS OCCURRING WITH SOME REGULARITY.

IF WE COULD JUST ADD TO THE NOISE ATTENUATION AND JUST SAY NOISE ATTENUATION GENERALLY, BECAUSE I KNOW THE LOUVERS THAT ARE ON THE NORTH END OF THE BUILDING, THAT COULD PERMIT SOUND. THAT'S FINE. ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON THE MOTION? I'M SO FAR FROM THE MOTION, I FIND THAT UNACCEPTABLE BECAUSE OF THE PARKING.

IF WE COULD INCLUDE THE TWO PARKING SPACES TO BE DETERMINED.

IT'S NOT IN MY MOTION. SO YOU CAN VOTE ME DOWN AND THEN MAKE ANOTHER MOTION.

SO THERE'S BEEN A MOTION, A SECOND CALL, THE ROLL.

I'M SORRY. WHO WAS THE SECOND? SECOND. THANK YOU.

THAT'S ALL I HEARD. THANK YOU. MEMBER. SCHULTZ.

NO MEMBER. CREASE. NO MEMBER. BARONE. I'M SORRY.

HE'S ABSTAINED. CORRECT. MEMBER. FOWLER. NO. VICE CHAIR.

KAPLAN. YES. ALTERNATE MEMBER. COOPER. NO. MEMBER.

MAYOR. NO. CHAIR. COUGHLIN. YES. OKAY. FAILS.

OKAY. IS THERE ANOTHER MOTION? AND I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO MOVE FORWARD WITHOUT RECOMMENDATION TO DENY THE APPLICATION BASED ON THE PRESENTATIONS AND MERELY SUBMITTED RELATING TO THE LACK OF PARKING.

ARE YOU MOVING TO DENY THE APPLICATION OR ARE YOU MOVING TO.

I'M MOVING TO RECOMMEND TO DENY THE APPLICATION.

OKAY. BECAUSE THE LACK OF PARKING. OKAY. THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND TO THAT EFFECT.

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ANY COMMENT? I'M SORRY. WHO WAS THE SECOND? THANK YOU, MR. KAUFMAN. KAUFMAN? YES. I THINK WE'VE HAD OUR DISCUSSIONS.

WE'RE AT A VOTING STAGE NOW. I THOUGHT, I DON'T KNOW IF THE IF COUNCIL HAS A SOLUTION FOR THE PARKING THAT SHE WANTS TO OFFER.

I WON'T HAVE A SOLUTION. IN TWO WAS NOT PROVIDED THE OPPORTUNITY TO TO SUMMARIZE MY PRESENTATION.

BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY, WE DO HAVE A SOLUTION. WE'RE WILLING TO PROVIDE THE PARKING ON OFF SITE PROPERTY FOR THIS BUILDING, THOUGH I DO SUBMIT, FOR THE RECORD WE DO NOT BELIEVE THAT THAT PARKING IS REQUIRED.

WE ALL WE'RE WILLING TO PROVIDE THAT PARKING OFF SITE FROM A PRACTICAL STANDPOINT.

AND WE BELIEVE THAT THAT SOLUTION ADDRESSES THE COMMENTS MADE BY MR. CREASE AND MR. MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO AMEND MY MOTION, IF POSSIBLE.

YES, I WOULD LIKE TO RECOMMEND THAT WE APPROVE THE PETITION BASED ON THE PREVIOUS POINTS RAISED BY THE CHAIR, AND ALSO THE ADDITIONAL INPUT THAT TWO SPACES OF PARKING WILL BE ALLOCATED TO THE RESIDENTIAL AREA.

RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY. IS THERE A SECOND? I WILL SECOND THAT.

OKAY. CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR FLEXIBILITY.

MEMBER MAYOR. YES. MEMBER BARRON IS ABSTAIN. ALTERNATE MEMBER COOPER.

NO. MEMBER. FOWLER. YES. MEMBER. SCHULTZ. NO.

MEMBER. CREASE. YES. VICE CHAIR. CAPLAN. YES.

CHAIR. COUGHRAN. YES. PASS. OKAY. I HAVE A QUESTION ON TIME.

WE'RE SUPPOSED TO TAKE A BREAK AROUND 1030. IT'S ABOUT THAT TIME NOW.

WE DO HAVE AN 11:00 TIME. HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET 70 IN POSSIBLY, OR AT LEAST STARTED ON IF THE APPLICANT'S AMENABLE, BUT WE COULD TAKE OUR TEN MINUTE BREAK NOW AND THEN.

WE DON'T HAVE TO INTERRUPT THE PRESENTATION ON THE CONDITION ON THE PLANNING STAFF.

SO IT'S A TEN MINUTES. TEN MINUTE BREAK. OKAY.

WE'RE IN. I'M GOING TO CALL THE MEETING BACK TO ORDER.

THERE'S AN APPLICATION 70, BUT WE'RE WITHIN TEN MINUTES OF HAVING TO START THE PRESENTATION ON THE PLANNING ISSUES.

AND WITH THE. AND THAT'S GOING TO TAKE HOW DO WE HAVE ANY BROAD IDEA OF WHAT TIME FRAME WE'RE TALKING ABOUT? AN HOUR, TWO HOURS, 12 HOURS. OH, SORRY. 12 HOURS.

NO. THE PRESENTATION WON'T BE AN HOUR. BUT MAYBE THE I THINK QUESTIONS.

SO IF THE APPLICANT WANTS TO COME BACK AROUND NOON.

OR WE CAN MAKE IT DO LUNCH. WE ARE PROVIDING YOU LUNCH.

OKAY. SO COME BACK AROUND 1230. WOULD THAT WORK FOR YOU GUYS? OKAY. YES. THANK YOU. SORRY TO DO THAT TO YOU, BUT I DIDN'T WANT TO GET YOU STARTED AND THEN HAVE TO START OVER AGAIN.

OKAY. SO WE'RE GOING TO MOVE INTO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE, AND I'LL TAKE

[8.A. Update on Naples 2045, the elective changes to the City of Naples Comprehensive Plan. (TIME CERTAIN 11:00 A.M.) (Erica Martin, Director of Planning)]

THIS ONE IN CHARGE. YEAH. PLANNING DIRECTOR. WE HAVE AT THE REQUEST.

WE HAVE, AS YOU KNOW, WE'RE UNDERGOING THE UPDATE TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

WE WE PUT OUT AN RFP, WE ENGAGED A CONSULTANT.

THAT CONSULTANT IS JOHNSON ENGINEERING, BUT THEY ARE THE LEAD OF A WHOLE TEAM OF CONSULTANTS.

SO WE HAVE THE WHOLE TEAM WITH YOU TODAY TO PRESENT TO YOU A STATUS UPDATE ON WHERE WE ARE WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

THERE WERE A NUMBER OF ATTACHMENTS THAT I PROVIDED IN THE AGENDA PACKET.

SO THE PURPOSE OF THIS IS BOTH INFORMATIONAL AND SOLICIT SOME FEEDBACK FROM THE BOARD.

THERE THERE ARE TWO DOCUMENTS IN THERE THAT I THINK ARE AT THE STAFF LEVEL OF REVIEW RIGHT NOW THAT BEFORE IT GOES ON TO CITY COUNCIL.

SO WE WOULD ASK FOR YOUR INPUT ON THOSE TWO DOCUMENTS.

BUT WE'LL HAVE THE CONSULTANT GO THROUGH WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR.

BUT YEAH, WE HAVE A FULL PRESENTATION WITH ALL THE MEMBERS OF THE CONSULTANT TEAM FOR YOU.

THANK YOU. WE APPRECIATE THAT. AND WE'LL HOW THE MEMBERS OF THE BOARD HAVE QUESTIONS.

HOW DO YOU WANT US TO HANDLE THAT AS WE GO OR AT THE END? WE HAVE A HYBRID PRESENTATION. WE HAVE TWO MEMBERS FROM JOHNSON ENGINEERING IN THE IN PERSON HERE TODAY.

AND THEN THE REMAINING MEMBERS OF THE CONSULTANT TEAM ARE ON ZOOM.

SO PROBABLY THE EASIEST WAY WOULD BE YOU KNOW, CHRISSY WILL GIVE YOU A BREAKING POINT TO ASK SOME QUESTIONS, BUT IT MIGHT BE JUST LET THEM GET THROUGH THERE. YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I WOULD ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO DO.

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SO WRITE DOWN YOUR QUESTIONS. HOPE YOUR MEMORY IS GOOD ENOUGH, BUT IF YOU WRITE IT DOWN, YOU'LL BE ALL RIGHT.

OKAY. PLEASE PROCEED. I'M SORRY. ONE TECHNICAL ISSUE FOR ME.

MY MY TABLET TIMED OUT SOMEHOW, AND SO I NEED SOME SOME HELP.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. WHILE THAT'S HAPPENING, I JUST WANT TO MENTION ALSO AGAIN THAT THAT YOU ALL ARE NOW ONCE AGAIN, THE LOCAL PLANNING AGENCY FOR THE CITY, ACCORDING TO STATE LAW AND IN ADDITION TO LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS BY STATE LAW, BE THE AGENCY RESPONSIBLE FOR PREPARATION OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OR PLAN AMENDMENTS AND SHALL MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE GOVERNING BODY REGARDING THE ADOPTION OR AMENDMENT OF THE PLANS. THERE WILL BE OFFICIAL PUBLIC HEARINGS IN FRONT OF YOU ONCE THE PLAN GETS TO A PLACE WHERE IT'S READY FOR ADOPTION, IT HAS TO COME THROUGH YOU ALL. BUT IT'S I THINK STAFF AND THE CONSULTANTS, EVERYBODY ARE DOING A GREAT JOB BY ENGAGING YOU NOW HERE IN THIS SPACE TO TO GET QUESTIONS ANSWERED. AS YOU KNOW, THE COUNCIL ALSO ASKED ME TO TO BE A PART OF THE TEAM TO HELP OUT WHEREVER I CAN. SO I HAVE BEEN THEY'VE BEEN NICE ENOUGH TO LET ME JOIN IN ON THOSE MEETINGS, SO.

GOOD. THANK YOU. PLEASE PROCEED. WE DO APPRECIATE YOUR MIC.

WE DO APPRECIATE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO TALK WITH YOU TODAY AND SHARE INFORMATION ABOUT THE OUR PROGRESS TO DATE ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

WOULD YOU GIVE US YOUR NAME, PLEASE? I WILL, I'M SORRY. AS WELL AS UPCOMING DELIVERABLES AND PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT ACTIVITIES, I'M CHRISTINE FISHER WITH JOHNSON ENGINEERING.

HERE WITH ME TODAY IS ALSO LAURA DEJEAN. SHE'S OUR DIRECTOR OF PLANNING AND LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTURE.

JOHNSON ENGINEERING WAS ESTABLISHED IN 1946. WE PROVIDE COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING SERVICES AS WELL AS OTHER PLANNING AND ZONING SERVICES, ENGINEERING SERVICES AND SUCH.

WE'RE HEADQUARTERED IN FORT MYERS. WE ALSO HAVE OFFICES ACROSS SOUTHWEST FLORIDA IN NAPLES, PORT CHARLOTTE, LABELLE AND CLEWISTON. ON YOUR ZOOM CALL, PARTICIPATING IS EMILY YOU KNOW, WITH CLARION ASSOCIATES, WHICH IS BASED OUT OF CHAPEL HILL TOGETHER WITH LEANNE KING.

THEY'LL BE EVALUATING THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF CHARACTER, IDENTITY AND LAND USE.

WE HAVE BRIANNA SMITH FROM CMA OUTREACH. SHE LEADS OUR LEADS, OUR COMMUNITY OUTREACH AND ENGAGEMENT EFFORTS, AND ERIN DD, WHO SPECIALIZES IN RESILIENCY PLANNING AND LEGAL REVIEW.

AND THEY'LL BE ABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE REGARDING THEIR PARTICULAR SPECIALTIES. HELP IF I PROGRESS THROUGH THE PRESENTATION. THERE WE GO. SO THAT'S ALL OF US.

ALL RIGHT, SO THE PURPOSE OF THIS COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE FOR FOR THOSE THAT ARE NOT AWARE MANY OF YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING UPDATE PROCESS.

WE CAME BEFORE YOU LAST YEAR. IF YOU WERE ON THE BOARD AT THAT TIME, YOU MIGHT RECALL WE WERE DOING THE EVALUATION AND APPRAISAL REVIEW OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO ENSURE CONSISTENCY WITH CHANGES IN STATE STATUTES.

THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS AN ESSENTIAL POLICY DOCUMENT THAT ALL LOCAL GOVERNMENTS ARE REQUIRED IN FLORIDA, ARE REQUIRED TO ADOPT, AND THE DETAILED REQUIREMENTS ARE CONTAINED IN CHAPTER 163 OF FLORIDA STATUTES.

IT PROVIDES A BLUEPRINT FOR THE FUTURE USE OF LAND, PROVISION OF BASIC SERVICES, AND HOW TO PROVIDE THOSE SERVICES AND INFRASTRUCTURE OUT INTO THE FUTURE TEN AND 20 YEARS TO ENSURE ORDERLY AND BALANCED GROWTH.

THERE'S A MINIMUM, AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE'S A MINIMUM OF TEN REQUIRED ELEMENTS OR SUBJECT MATTERS.

AND NAPLES PLAN HAS COMBINED THE CONSERVATION AND COASTAL MANAGEMENT ELEMENT AND ALSO HAS THREE OPTIONAL ELEMENTS.

AND THAT'S FOR CONCURRENCY MANAGEMENT, VISION AND PUBLIC SCHOOL FACILITIES.

THE CITY LEADERS HAVE IDENTIFIED THE NEED AT THIS TIME TO ELECTIVELY AMEND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO PRIMARILY INFUSE THE PRINCIPLES AND DIRECTIVES THAT WERE PART OF THE VISION ELEMENT THAT WAS ADOPTED LAST AUGUST INTO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AND TO INFUSE THAT THROUGHOUT THE OTHER ELEMENTS OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AND ALSO TO ADDRESS ANY NEW AND EMERGING CONCERNS SPECIFICALLY REGARDING RESILIENCY, BALANCING REDEVELOPMENT WITH THE PRESERVATION OF THE SMALL TOWN CHARACTER AND CHARM OF NAPLES, AND MANAGING THE PRESSURES OF GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT BEYOND THE CITY BORDERS THAT ARE AFFECTING CITY RESOURCES AND INFRASTRUCTURE. SO AT THIS POINT, WE HAVE COMPLETED WHAT'S CALLED THE PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT PLAN.

THIS WAS APPROVED BY COUNCIL IN MID MID JUNE.

THIS OUTLINES OUR PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT, INVOLVEMENT AND NOTIFICATION ACTIVITIES THAT ARE ANTICIPATED THROUGHOUT THE LIFE OF THE 22 MONTH PROJECT.

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PART OF THIS INCLUDES THE. AS I MENTIONED, THE NOTIFICATION AND OUTREACH STRATEGY.

THE ANTICIPATED TYPES OF ENGAGEMENT ACTIVITIES.

TENTATIVE PROJECT SCHEDULE THAT HIGHLIGHTS THE VARIOUS OPPORTUNITIES FOR PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT.

THIS AND THIS DOCUMENT WAS INCLUDED IN YOUR BACKUP MATERIALS.

WE ALSO HAVE ESTABLISHED A WEBSITE, A DEDICATED WEBSITE FOR THE PROJECT.

IT IS NAPLES 2045. COM AND AN EMAIL ADDRESS TO KEEP PEOPLE INFORMED AND PROVIDE ADDITIONAL FEEDBACK OPPORTUNITIES.

THE WEBSITE INCLUDES A PROJECT SUMMARY AND OVERVIEW OF COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING AND THE PROCESS.

IT INCLUDES A SECTION THAT HAS IMPORTANT DOCUMENTS THAT THE CITY HAS APPROVED, AS WELL AS OUR DELIVERABLES AS WE COMPLETE THEM.

THEY'LL BE POSTED UP THERE FOR THE PUBLIC TO ALSO PROVIDE FEEDBACK ON A FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTION SECTION AND A COMMENT FORM TO PROVIDE INPUT.

THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT TAB IS RESERVED TO INCLUDE INTERACTIVE ACTIVITIES THAT THE TEAM IS WORKING CLOSELY WITH.

MONIQUE, WHO IS THE CITY'S COMMUNICATION AND PUBLIC OUTREACH MANAGER, ON DIFFERENT OUTREACH STRATEGIES AND GETTING INPUT FROM THE COMMUNITY.

ALSO IN THE PIP, WE HAVE A TENTATIVE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT SCHEDULE.

THIS HAS SINCE BEEN REVISED TO BETTER ACCOMMODATE THE WORKSHOPS AND THE PUBLIC HEARINGS DURING PEAK SEASON HERE.

AND IT'S INCLUDED. THE NEW ONE IS INCLUDED SEPARATELY IN YOUR BACKUP MATERIALS AS WELL.

THE PIP INCLUDES A TENTATIVE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT SCHEDULE, WHICH HAS SINCE BEEN REVISED TO ACCOMMODATE. I ALREADY GOT THAT. SORRY. ALL RIGHT, SO ALL OF THIS WILL THEN BE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT ACTIVITIES WILL ALL BE WRAPPED UP IN A SUMMARY PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT SUMMARY REPORT.

AND THIS IS ANTICIPATED TO BE DELIVERED TO THE CITY BY MARCH 2006.

THIS DEPICTS THE SUMMARY OF THE PROJECT SCHEDULE.

WE TRULY HAVE FOUR STAGES AS PART OF THIS PROJECT.

WE'RE CURRENTLY WRAPPING UP THE DATA COLLECTION AND ANALYSIS STAGE, THE PUBLIC OUTREACH AND ENGAGEMENT PHASE, OR STAGE, I SHOULD SAY SPANS THE LENGTH OF THE ENTIRE PROJECT.

HOWEVER, THE CONCENTRATED EFFORTS TO GET COMMUNITY INPUT AND FEEDBACK ON OUR RECOMMENDATIONS WILL OCCUR DURING PEAK SEASON BETWEEN OCTOBER AND FEBRUARY.

AND THEN AS WE BEGIN TO HEAR FROM THE COMMUNITY, THE AND THE AND THE CITY COUNCIL WILL BEGIN PREPARING DRAFT AMENDMENTS.

AND THAT WILL TAKE PLACE THROUGH APRIL. AND THEN THE LAST STAGE INCLUDES LOCAL RECOMMENDATIONS AND APPROVAL OF THE AMENDMENTS THAT IS CONSISTENT WITH PROCESSES FOR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENTS. THIS PROVIDES A MORE DETAILED BREAKDOWN OF THAT SCHEDULE THAT ALSO INCLUDES ALL THE DIFFERENT PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT ACTIVITIES.

THERE'S A TOTAL OF SEVEN ACTUAL PHASES THAT ARE PART OF THE SCOPE.

THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF MEETINGS THAT ARE BEING HELD ARE ALSO DEPICTED ON HERE.

WITH THE PUBLIC. I'M SORRY. MEETINGS BEFORE THE PRESIDENT'S COUNCIL MEETING, THE PAB, THE CITY COUNCIL, AND THEN COMMUNITY MEETINGS. AS MENTIONED, WE ARE CURRENTLY WRAPPING UP PHASE ONE, THE DATA COLLECTION AND ANALYSIS THIS MONTH AND GETTING READY TO ENTER PHASE TWO. THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT WITH PLANNING ADVISORY BOARD AND CITY COUNCIL INPUT.

SORRY. WE'VE AS MENTIONED, WE ALSO LAUNCHED THE DEDICATED WEBSITE.

AT THE END OF THIS LAST WEEK, WE HAD A TOTAL OF ALMOST 15,000 WEBSITE VISITS, 70 UNIQUE REGISTRANTS, AND 15 COMPLETED COMMENT FORMS. THE PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT PLAN, WHICH IS PROVIDING YOUR BACKUP MATERIALS, OUTLINES OUR INTENDED APPROACH AND METHODS FOR SHARING INFO WITH AND GATHERING INPUT FROM THE COMMUNITY.

THE PLANNING ADVISORY BOARD AND CITY COUNCIL ALSO COMPLETED.

WE'VE COMPLETED A REVIEW OF EXISTING CITY APPROVED PLANS AND DOCUMENTS WHICH WERE PROVIDED BY STAFF.

AND THESE DOCUMENTS WE'VE ALSO PROVIDED ON THE WEBSITE LINKS TO THEM, SO THEY CAN ALSO BE SEEN BY EVERYONE.

WE'VE ALSO PREPARED A COUPLE OF OTHER REFERENCE DOCUMENTS.

SO THESE REFERENCE DOCUMENTS ARE ALSO IN YOUR BACKUP.

ONE OF THESE IS THIS DOCUMENT WE'RE CALLING THE CROSSWALK OF RESILIENCY.

IT IS A MATRIX THAT CROSS-REFERENCES ALL THE DIFFERENT RESILIENCY STRATEGIES THAT ARE IN THE APPROVED CITY DOCUMENTS.

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IT'S A WORKING DOCUMENT THAT CAN BE USED IN THE FUTURE AS WELL, AS THE CITY CONTINUES ITS COMPREHENSIVE, MULTI-TIERED APPROACH TO ADDRESSING RESILIENCY.

AND THEN THE MODEL PLAN SUMMARY MATRIX HIGHLIGHTS RESILIENCY AND COMMUNITY CHARACTER, AND IDENTIFIES POLICIES AND ACTIONS AND MODEL COMPREHENSIVE PLANS AND COMPARABLE COMMUNITIES. THESE ARE COMMUNITIES THAT WERE MENTIONED AND AT THE SUGGESTION OF THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE, CITY COUNCIL, AND OTHER ONES THAT WE HAVE IDENTIFIED WITH.

OUR WORK IN PROGRESS. ALSO INCLUDED IN YOUR BACKUP IS OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN EVALUATION.

THIS IS PART OF OUR PHASE ONE SUMMARY OF INITIAL FINDINGS AND RECOMMENDATIONS REPORT.

IN THIS DOCUMENT, WHICH IS UNDER STAFF REVIEW, CURRENTLY WE USE THE VISION ELEMENT OF THE PLAN AS A FRAMEWORK FOR EVALUATING THE GOALS, OBJECTIVES AND POLICIES OF THE EXISTING COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

ALSO A SECOND DOCUMENT THAT YOU HAVE IS THE CURRENT CONDITIONS REPORT.

BOTH OF THESE ARE AGAIN UNDER STAFF REVIEW. AND I BELIEVE IN THE MEMO, STAFF HAD REQUESTED THAT YOU, AS THE BOARD WOULD PROVIDE COMMENTS TO THEM BY THE END OF THE MONTH SO THAT WE CAN FINALIZE THESE DELIVERABLES AND CONTINUE WORKING ON OUR DOCUMENTATIONS.

WE DO WELCOME YOUR INPUT AND SUGGESTIONS ON THOSE.

AND THEN AS WE MOVE INTO THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT PHASES OF THE PLAN, WE WILL PROVIDE THE PLANNING ADVISORY BOARD WITH UPDATES AND DELIVERABLES FOR REVIEW AND FEEDBACK IN ADVANCE OF THOSE MEETINGS. IN OCTOBER, WE ANTICIPATE BRINGING BEFORE YOU AT YOUR NEXT MEETING THE DRAFT OUTREACH QUESTIONS AND ENGAGEMENT MATERIALS FOR OUR ROUND ONE COMMUNITY MEETINGS IN JANUARY.

A PRESENTATION OF THE ROUND ONE PUBLIC INPUT THAT WE RECEIVED, AND THEN A REVIEW OF THE ROUND TWO COMMUNITY MEETING MATERIALS.

AND THEN IN MARCH, PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT SUMMARY REPORT AND DRAFT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE REVIEW.

AND THEN MAY WOULD BE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE TRANSMITTAL HEARING MATERIALS.

WE BELIEVE THAT THE PLANNING ADVISORY BOARD IS VERY IMPORTANT TO THIS PROCESS.

YOU DO SERVE AS THE LOCAL PLANNING AGENCY AND PER STATUTE.

YOU'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR PREPARING PLANS AND PLAN AMENDMENTS OR IN COOPERATION WITH COUNCIL DESIGNATED PERSONS TO DO THIS RESPONSIBILITY, AND RECOMMENDED PLAN AND PLAN AMENDMENTS FOR ADOPTION TO CITY COUNCIL, WHO ULTIMATELY ADOPTS THOSE CHANGES.

WE DO HAVE FIVE PLANNING ADVISORY BOARD MEETINGS THAT ARE INCLUDED IN THE PROJECT SCHEDULING FOR UPDATES, INPUT AND CONSIDERATION. THESE WILL TAKE PLACE BETWEEN SEPTEMBER AND MAY.

SO WE'LL BE SEEING YOU A LOT IN THE NEXT EIGHT MONTHS.

INPUT RECEIVED FROM THE PLANNING ADVISORY BOARD WILL THEN BE RELAYED TO CITY COUNCIL, WHO WILL ULTIMATELY ADOPT THE PLAN AMENDMENTS UPON PLANNING ADVISORY BOARD RECOMMENDATION.

AND THE PLANNING ADVISORY BOARD DOES SERVE AS THE AMBASSADORS TO THE PUBLIC TO HELP US SPREAD THE WORD ABOUT DIFFERENT ACTIVITIES, UPCOMING EVENTS AND CHAMPIONING THE PROJECT. ALL RIGHT, SO TO DESCRIBE A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE DIFFERENT COMMUNITY MEETINGS. WE'RE BREAKING THEM INTO TWO ROUNDS.

THE FIRST ROUND WILL BE PRIMARILY FOR DISCUSSING THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THEMES, REVIEWING THE EXISTING CONDITIONS, AFFIRMING THE VISION, AND GATHERING INPUT. AS MENTIONED, WE ARE SCHEDULED TO MEET BEFORE THE PRESIDENT'S COUNCIL.

SEPTEMBER 29TH. SO THAT'S AT THE END OF THE MONTH.

COMING UP QUICKLY. WE'LL PROVIDE. WE HOPE WE WANT THEM TO HELP US SPREAD THE WORD ABOUT THE UPCOMING COMMUNITY MEETINGS.

AND THEN WE'LL BE MEETING BEFORE THE PLANNING ADVISORY BOARD AT YOUR OCTOBER 8TH MEETING.

AND THEN CITY COUNCIL IMMEDIATELY AFTER THAT ON THE 13TH.

WE HAVE SECURED LOCATIONS FOR THESE COMMUNITY MEETINGS.

WE'RE PLANNING ON HAVING ONE IN THE NORTH AT THE FAITH LUTHERAN CHURCH AND ONE IN THE SOUTH, THE NORRIS COMMUNITY CENTER. THEY WOULD BOTH BE ON THE SAME DATE, NOVEMBER 13TH.

IT'S A THURSDAY. CALENDAR IS CLEAR AS FAR AS CITY EVENTS AND SUCH, AND ONE WOULD BE IN THE MORNING, ONE WOULD BE IN THE AFTERNOON. SAME ITINERARY FOR BOTH IS WHAT WE'RE INTENDING.

WE JUST WANT TO ALLOW FOR DIFFERENT TIMES AND DIFFERENT LOCATIONS TO BE MORE CONVENIENT FOR THOSE THAT ARE PARTICIPATING.

AND THEN ROUND TWO, WE'LL TAKE THAT INFORMATION AND THEN COME BACK AGAIN.

MEET BEFORE THE PRESIDENT'S COUNCIL. THAT WOULD LIKELY BE JANUARY 26TH, GATHERING INPUT IN ADVANCE OF DRAFTING THE PLAN.

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AMENDMENTS FOR CONSIDERATION. AND THEN IN JANUARY, WE WANT TO HAVE A WORKSHOP WITH THE PLANNING ADVISORY BOARD AND THE CITY COUNCIL TO SHARE THE INPUT THAT WE'VE RECEIVED FROM THE ROUND ONE COMMUNITY MEETINGS AND SEEK INPUT ON THE PROPOSED ENGAGEMENT ACTIVITIES AND WORKSHOP ITINERARY FOR THOSE ROUND TWO COMMUNITY MEETINGS. OF COURSE, THE DATES AND TIMES FOR THE ROUND TWO COMMUNITY MEETINGS ARE TO BE DETERMINED, BUT WE ANTICIPATE THOSE TO BE IN ORDER TO STAY ON SCHEDULE IN MID-FEBRUARY AND LIKELY AT THE SAME LOCATIONS IF THAT WORKS OUT TO BE CONVENIENT DURING ROUND ONE.

AND THEN BETWEEN MARCH AND DECEMBER, THIS IS WHEN WE START ACTIVELY REVISING AND UPDATING SEVERAL DRAFTS OF THE PLAN AMENDMENTS.

WE ANTICIPATE PLANNING ADVISORY BOARD WORKSHOP TO GO THROUGH AND TALK ABOUT RECOMMENDATIONS WITHIN THE DRAFT PLAN.

AT THAT TIME, WE'RE ANTICIPATING THAT TO BE IN MARCH OF 2026, FOLLOWED BY COUNCIL IN APRIL.

THIS WILL BE AFTER STAFF'S REVIEWED IT. AND WE'VE WE'VE SHARED THAT INFORMATION AND WE'RE LOOKING AT DRAFTS, SEVERAL DRAFTS BEING PRESENTED BEFORE DIFFERENT DIFFERENT BODIES.

PUBLIC HEARINGS WOULD THEN FOLLOW AND THESE WOULD FOLLOW THE STATE COORDINATED REVIEW PROCESS.

SO WE'RE LOOKING AT AGAIN, BRINGING THOSE BEFORE YOU IN MAY OF 2026, FOLLOWED BY COUNCIL IN JUNE.

THAT ALLOWS US TO TRANSMIT TO THE STATE AND THE STATE REVIEWING AGENCIES SO THAT THEY HAVE THEIR TIME DURING THE SUMMER TO FIND THE PLAN AMENDMENTS INCONSISTENT WITH THE COMMUNITY PLANNING ACT AND IDENTIFY ANY MEASURES THAT THE CITY MIGHT HAVE TO TAKE TO EITHER ELIMINATE OR REDUCE OR MITIGATE ANY ADVERSE IMPACTS.

ONCE WE GET THEIR COMMENTS BACK, THAT'LL BE IN WHAT'S CALLED IN OBJECTIONS, RECOMMENDED RECOMMENDATIONS AND COMMENTS REPORT.

WE TAKE THAT INFORMATION AND THEN COUNCIL HAS UP TO 180 DAYS TO HOLD A SECOND PUBLIC HEARING TO ADOPT THE PLAN AMENDMENTS.

SO ONCE AGAIN, JUST ANOTHER REMINDER TO VISIT THE WEBSITE, REGISTER, STAY UPDATED ON THE PROJECT AND UPCOMING ENGAGEMENT ACTIVITIES WE DO.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. AND WITH THAT WE CAN TAKE QUESTIONS AND REGARDING ANY OF OUR DIFFERENT SPECIALTIES THAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO ADDRESS FOR YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. CONGRATULATIONS ON THE WEBSITE. LOOKS VERY PROFESSIONAL.

A COUPLE OF COMMENTS. I THINK I RAISED BOTH OF THESE BEFORE I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE PHASE TWO PUBLIC OUTREACH YOU MENTIONED IN THE SEASON. I DON'T REALLY CONSIDER NOVEMBER 13TH TO BE WHEN MOST OF OUR RESIDENTS ARE BACK.

BACK HERE. IS THERE ANY WAY THAT COULD BE PUSHED BACK BY A COUPLE OF MONTHS SO THAT WE BASICALLY HAVE MAYBE JANUARY AND MARCH BECAUSE A LOT OF FOLKS, SOME FOLKS WILL COME DOWN FOR THANKSGIVING, SOME WILL COME DOWN FOR CHRISTMAS, BUT MOST FOLKS ARE DOWN HERE JANUARY, FEBRUARY, MARCH, AND THEN EITHER GO END OF MARCH OR EASTER WHENEVER EASTER FALLS.

RIGHT. GOING BACK TO THE CALENDAR WE STRUGGLED WITH THIS A BIT AS, AS WELL AS WE WERE TRYING TO ADJUST.

YEAH. TOO FAR. HAD TO COMPRESS EVERYTHING TO GET EVERYTHING IN.

THAT NEEDS TO GET IN. AND. I MEAN, IF WE WERE TO PUSH THIS TO JANUARY, WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO REALLY DO ROUND TWO UNTIL MARCH. AND THEN WE'RE DOING DRAFT PLAN REVIEW OUTSIDE OF THE WINDOW AS WELL.

SO EITHER WAY, WE KIND OF SHIFT IT. WE DO HAVE TO WRAP UP BY DECEMBER OF 2026 ONLY BECAUSE THAT'S THE CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATION.

IT'S NOT THAT THE STATE IS WAITING FOR THAT, BUT SINCE IT'S ELECTIVE, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US CAST A WIDER NET AS POSSIBLE.

AND I REALLY DON'T THINK NOVEMBER 13TH IS CASTING A WIDE NET, FRANKLY.

TELL ME AGAIN. YOUR TELL ME AGAIN. PEAK FOR YOU.

JANUARY. FEBRUARY. MARCH. THERE'S A SECOND ROUND IN FEBRUARY.

THERE IS. THAT'S THE SECOND ROUND. YEAH, THAT'S KIND OF THE FIRST ROUND.

TRUE. BUT IT DOES ALLOW I MEAN, SO WE CAN'T HAVE ALL THE PUBLIC MEETINGS AND THE HEARINGS AND EVERYTHING, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? LIKE, WE HAVE TO ALL THESE THINGS THAT HAVE TO HAPPEN, WE HAVE TO HAVE ON A SCHEDULE.

SO WE CAN'T GROUP EVERYTHING INTO JANUARY, FEBRUARY, MARCH.

BECAUSE THEN IF WE IF WE PUSH EVERYTHING TO THERE, THEN YOU'RE PUSHING THE HEARINGS AND EVERYTHING ELSE OUT FURTHER INTO THE SUMMER.

I UNDERSTAND, EXCEPT WE ARE A SEASONAL COMMUNITY WITH THE VAST MAJORITY OF FOLKS DOWN HERE.

JANUARY, FEBRUARY, MARCH. SO LET ME ASK A QUESTION.

FOLLOWING UP ON THE COMMENT. AND MY CONCERN IS THE SAME AS THAT.

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WE WANT AS MUCH. THERE'S ALWAYS A SUSPICION IN FLORIDA THAT THE GOVERNMENT'S ACT BETWEEN JUNE AND SEPTEMBER, BECAUSE THEY CAN HIDE STUFF UNDER THE RUG AND PEOPLE AREN'T HERE.

SO MY MY QUESTION IS REALLY WE HAVE ONE HEARING IN NOVEMBER AND THAT'S GOING TO BE AN IFFY HEARING FOR PEOPLE.

BUT CAN THE INPUTS THAT OCCUR IS THAT YOU SAID FEBRUARY IS THE SECOND HEARING, RIGHT.

PUBLIC PUBLIC MEETING. OH, YEAH. THE COMMUNITY MEETINGS.

YEAH. COMMUNITY MEETING. YEAH. IS THAT GOING TO BE A MEANINGFUL MEETING WHERE IF SOMEBODY COMES UP WITH A NEW IDEA, WE CAN STILL DEAL WITH IT, SO. OR DO WE TIE IT UP TO WHAT HAPPENED IN THE FIRST MEETING? IN THE SECOND MEETING, AND WHAT I THINK THE POINT THAT THAT'S BEING MADE HERE BY JOHN, IS THAT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO WANT TO FEEL THAT IF WE'RE COMING TO FEBRUARY, IT'LL BE MEANINGFUL INPUT, EVEN IF YOU HADN'T HEARD THE IDEA BEFORE.

SO THAT'S THE QUESTION. SO THERE'S A FEW THINGS THAT WE CAN DO.

ONE IS MAKING SURE THAT THE WEBSITE HAS PERTINENT INFORMATION, THAT PEOPLE CAN BE INFORMED AND GIVE INPUT THAT WAY EARLY IN.

AND THAT'S KIND OF THE INTENT WHERE WE'RE WE'RE GOING.

THE, THE ROUND TWO IS MEANT TO KIND OF DIG A LITTLE DEEPER INTO WHATEVER ISSUES AND CONCERNS THAT ARE BUBBLING UP AT THE FIRST ROUND OF MEETINGS AND THEN HOW TO ADDRESS IT, AND THEN PERHAPS HAVING THE COMMUNITY ASSIST US IN LIKE, I MEAN, THERE'S 50 DIFFERENT WAYS YOU CAN ADDRESS CERTAIN THINGS, AND MAYBE THERE'S SOME NUANCES THAT CAN BE ADDRESSED, BUT WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE JUST THE WORKSHOPS BE THE ONLY WAY FOR PEOPLE TO PARTICIPATE.

WE DO HAVE INTENTIONS TO DO SURVEYS. AND OF COURSE THE WEBSITE WILL HAVE OPPORTUNITIES TO PARTICIPATE AS WELL.

OKAY. WELL, I DON'T WANT TO BE CYNICAL, BUT THE MEDIAN AGE OF THE VOTING RESIDENTS OF NAPLES IS NOT 22.

NO, I KNOW. AND I THINK THAT YOU NEED TO PAY AN AWFUL LOT OF ATTENTION TENSION OF HOW TO EDUCATE PEOPLE TO USE THE WEBSITE AND GET ON.

AND I'D EVEN SUGGEST THE HELP BUTTON IF YOU DON'T HAVE ONE, SO THAT PEOPLE CAN CAN GET THEIR INPUT IN EARLIER RATHER THAN LATER. AND RIGHT NOW, I DON'T THINK THERE'S MUCH OUTSIDE OF THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE PLANNING BOARD, MUCH KNOWLEDGE THAT THIS PROCESS IS REALLY GOING ON.

SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE TRYING TO HELP THE NEWSPAPERS FEATURE, YOU KNOW, THIS AND IT'S DETAILED.

MAKE THAT WEBSITE AS SIMPLE AS YOU CAN. AND GET A HELP BUTTON ON IT.

MR. CHAIR, IF I MAY. ARE THE COMMUNITY MEETINGS RECORDED? WILL THEY BE RECORDED SO THEY CAN BE AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC? THEY'RE NOT RECORDED. THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE RECORDED. THEY'LL BE NOTICED BECAUSE THERE WILL BE MORE THAN ONE BOARD MEMBER OR COUNCIL MEMBER, BUT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE RECORDED AND BROADCAST. OKAY. WHAT ARE THESE AGAIN? THESE ARE THE COMMUNITY COMMUNITY MEETINGS IN OFF SITE LOCATIONS.

SO I THINK ONE OF THEM IS AT A CHURCH AND ONE OF THEM IS.

SO LET ME BE DIFFICULT. WHY NOT THESE TWO HERE? YOU'RE SAYING BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE BROADCASTING.

YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE ONES ON THE PRESENTATION.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT MEETINGS.

THE TWO THAT ARE IN THE NOVEMBER ONES. OKAY. THAT'S ON NOVEMBER AND FEBRUARY.

SO YOU HAVE MULTIPLE OPPORTUNITIES TO PARTICIPATE. YOU HAVE THESE COMMUNITY MEETINGS WHICH ARE KIND OF TOWN HALL STYLE MEETINGS OFF SITE.

THERE WILL ALSO BE PUBLIC HEARINGS IN THIS ROOM, WHICH ARE OBVIOUSLY NOTICED, BROADCAST, STREAMED, ALL THE THINGS. SO HERE'S MY SUGGESTION. MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE I DON'T THINK YOU HAVE TO BROADCAST THOSE COMMUNITY MEETINGS, BUT IF YOU COULD RECORD THEM AND THEN PUT THEM ON THE SITE AFTER THE FACT, I DON'T THINK THAT'S A BIG TIME COMMITMENT OR EXPENSE.

MAYBE I'M MISSING SOMETHING, BUT IT JUST MAKES PEOPLE KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON, AND THEN THEY CAN RESPOND ON THE SITE AS TO WHAT THEY SAW. THAT'S JUST A CONCERN. I CAN INQUIRE AND ALONG THOSE LINES, WILL WILL A SUMMARY BE PREPARED AND POSTED ON THE WEBSITE? ABSOLUTELY. IT'LL DEFINITELY OKAY.

THAT'S ALSO HELPFUL. BRIAN IS ON OUR ON OUR ZOOM CALL, AND MAYBE SHE CAN GIVE A LITTLE BIT MORE INPUT INTO WHAT SHE'S DONE WITH OTHER COMMUNITIES IN REGARDS TO PUTTING OUT INFORMATION, SUMMARIES OF OF MEETINGS, COMMUNITY MEETINGS THAT YOU'VE DONE.

A FEW QUESTIONS, MR. CHAIRMAN. WHEN YOU GET A MOMENT, I HAVE A SECOND COMMENT.

YES. SECOND COMMENT AGAIN RAISED THIS BEFORE.

HOW DO WE STOP COMMUNITY MEETINGS BEING HIJACKED BY SPECIAL INTEREST GROUPS? WE HAD A CODE MEETING A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, WHICH, IN MY HUMBLE OPINION, DEVELOPED INTO AN ABSOLUTE FARCE.

WE WE WILL HAVE A SOLID ITINERARY PUT TOGETHER OF WHAT WE WANT TO DO.

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AND RIGHT NOW WE'RE WORKING WITH STAFF TO KIND OF WHITTLE IT DOWN EXACTLY WHAT WE WANT TO ACCOMPLISH.

THE BEGINNING PART OF THE MEETING WILL KIND OF GIVE AN OVERVIEW. THIS IS FOR THE FIRST ONE OF WHAT THIS PROCESS IS INTENDED TO DO.

AND WE'RE LOOKING TO DO AN INTERACTIVE LIKE SURVEY WHERE THEY CAN ACTUALLY LIKE SEE IT'LL BE IT'LL BE INTERESTING ENOUGH TO KEEP PEOPLE ENGAGED.

AND THEY WOULDN'T BE GOING UP TO MIKES AND DOING THAT KIND OF THING. THEY WILL HAVE TABLE EXERCISES THAT THEN THEY'LL WORK IN GROUPS TO KIND OF REACH SOME CONSENSUS ON.

WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, THIS IS WHAT HAPPENED WHEN WE HAD THE MEETING WITH THE TABLES OF 12.

AND AS I SAY, IT WAS, IN MY HUMBLE OPINION, HIJACKED BY SPECIAL INTEREST GROUPS.

AND THE VIEW OF THE COMMUNITY WAS NOT THE VIEW THAT GOT SENT TO THE GOT RECORDED.

YEAH, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE LIVE HERE, BUT I MEAN, WE'VE GOT FOUR MEETINGS, RIGHT? IF YOU ASSUME THIS HERE IN NOVEMBER OR WHATEVER IT IS, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE COULD EVEN FIT IN THESE THINGS.

AND EACH ONE'S FOR AN HOUR AND A HALF. THERE'S NO WAY ANYBODY CAN COMMUNICATE WHAT THEIR POINT OF VIEW IS.

YOU MENTIONED SURVEYS AND STUFF, AND I KNOW LAST TIME WE DID HAVE A SURVEY, AND IT TOOK A LOT OF TIME AND EFFORT TO ASK VERY GOOD QUESTIONS AND ASK THEM IN THE PROPER WAY. SO YOU GOT BALANCED ANSWERS AS OPPOSED TO HAVING IT SORT OF PIGEONHOLED INTO THINGS.

YOU MENTIONED YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THE SURVEYS, BUT I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY THE BEST WAY.

THE BEST WAY TO GET INPUT FROM THE COMMUNITY IS THROUGH THESE SURVEYS.

AND I DON'T SEE THAT IN HERE AS A A MAJOR THING TO DO.

YOU WILL DEFINITELY SEE THAT AT YOUR OCTOBER MEETING.

WE'RE WORKING WITH STAFF NOW TO REFINE WHAT THAT ITINERARY AND SURVEY IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE, AND YOU WILL DEFINITELY HAVE IT AND GIVE INPUT BE ABLE TO HAVE IT IN ADVANCE OF YOUR OCTOBER MEETING SO WE CAN KIND OF FLESH THROUGH SOME OF THAT BEFORE WE GO THEN INTO THE NOVEMBER MEETING, BECAUSE I THINK THAT HOW THAT INPUTS, WHERE THE DATA COMES IS THERE ARE MULTIPLE TRANCHES OF THAT.

HOW DOES IT CONNECT TO THIS MEETINGS HERE? I THINK THAT THOSE ARE ALL VERY IMPORTANT THINGS WHICH YOU'VE JUST SAID YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW WE DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'VE PLANNED YET.

SO I'VE GOT A FEW POINTS AS WELL TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT.

SORRY YOU'VE BEEN WAITING LONGER. THANK YOU. DIRECT EXPERIENCE HERE WITH THE COUNTY, COLLIER COUNTY COASTAL STORM RISK MANAGEMENT AD HOC ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

IF YOU MISSED THE PLANNING CHARRETTES, WHICH WERE HIJACKED BY SPECIFIC PEOPLE THAT HAD AGENDAS, IT WAS IN OFF SEASON. AND THEN THAT DICTATED HOW WE FUNCTIONED.

AND ULTIMATELY IT ENDURED TO THE DETRIMENT OF EVERYBODY, BECAUSE THE ARMY RAN OUT OF MONEY AND WASN'T ABLE TO CONCLUDE THE PROJECT AT ALL.

SO IF WE DON'T TRY TO FIT AS MUCH AS WE CAN IN THE JANUARY, FEBRUARY, MARCH TIME WINDOW WHEN THE PUBLIC IS HERE, IT COULD BE A PROBLEM. AND SO I UNDERSTAND CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATIONS IN THIS AND THAT.

BUT WE ARE WANTING TO GET TO KNOW YOU AND GET TO KNOW EACH OTHER, BUT THAT I, AS THE CHAIR OF THAT BODY, I BELIEVE THAT HAD A LOT TO DO WITH THE FAILURE OF THE ARMY TO BE ABLE TO FINISH THEIR JOB ON TIME WITH THE BUDGET.

SO IT WAS A VERY COMPLICATED PROJECT. THEY WOULD HAVE A MONTHLY CALL.

EVERYBODY COULD BE ON IT WHEN THEY WANT. AND IT WAS GENERALLY THE SAME 55 TO 65 PEOPLE THAT HAD FROM FROM THE SPECIAL INTEREST GROUPS AND THE PUBLIC SORT OF GOT EDGED OUT, EVEN THOUGH THEY WERE ABLE TO BE A PART OF IT.

THEY'D ALREADY MISSED THE MEAT AND POTATOES, AND NOW THEY WERE DINING ON THE SCRAPS.

SO, AS IT WERE I HAVE I HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THAT.

AND SO WHILE I RECOGNIZE THE DILEMMA YOU'RE CONFRONTING PRACTICAL EXPERIENCE AT THE COUNTY WIDE LEVEL WAS VERY, VERY PROBLEMATIC. UNLESS WE CAN GET MORE PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT, THAT CAN'T BE HIJACKED.

I TOTALLY CONCUR THAT THE JANUARY FEBRUARY, MARCH TIME FRAME IS ESSENTIAL.

THANK YOU. JUST TO TRY AND TIE UP SOME OF THAT AND TO ADD SOME MORE.

AND I THINK WE NEED A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND. WE AS THE PAB, WE DID LET'S SAY STRONGLY ENCOURAGED AND RUSHED INTO MEETING THE MINIMUM LEVEL OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO MEET WITH STATE TIMEFRAMES.

THE RESULT BEING THAT WE HAD A FAST APPROACH, AND WE ONLY INCLUDED WHAT I WOULD DEEM AS THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS.

SO WE MISSED A MASSIVE OPPORTUNITY AND I WOULD, IN HINDSIGHT, NEVER BE RAILROADED THAT WAY AGAIN.

WE ARE, AS A PAB BOARD AMBASSADORS FOR THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

THAT IN NO WAY DOES THAT MEAN THAT WE ARE EITHER MORE EXPERIENCED OR DEFINITELY NOT EXPERTS IN THIS.

SO HOPEFULLY ANYBODY WHO'S PAYING ATTENTION TO THIS MEETING, PLEASE, PLEASE COME FORWARD.

I, FOR ONE, WOULD GREATLY WELCOME ANY EDUCATION RELATING TO DEEPER DEPTH OF COMPREHENSIVE PLANS, PLUSES AND MINUSES. SAYS. THEN I NOTICE ON YOUR GOING THROUGH THE CONSULTATIONS THAT ARE PLANNED,

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YOU'VE GOT THE PRESIDENT'S LET'S SAY, WORKSHOPS.

MY CONCERN WITH THAT IS THERE IS THE MAJORITY OF HOAS AND ASSOCIATIONS ARE NOT REPRESENTED AT THOSE PRESIDENT'S MEETINGS FOR VARIOUS REASONS, WHICH MEANS THE MAJORITY OF RESIDENTS ARE NOT GETTING THAT INPUT.

SO I WOULD ASK, IS THERE ANOTHER COMMUNICATION ROUTE TO ENSURE THAT HOAS AND OTHER RESIDENTIAL ASSOCIATIONS ARE COMMUNICATED TO IN RELATION TO, EVEN IF IT'S ONLY THE OUTCOMES FROM THE PRESIDENT'S MEETINGS? BUT I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE A WAY TO OPEN THAT UP, BECAUSE THERE ARE HOAS THAT I'M AWARE OF WHO DELIBERATELY DO NOT ATTEND THE PRESIDENT'S WORKSHOPS, THE PRESIDENT'S MEETINGS. AND THERE ARE THOSE WHO ARE NOT AWARE OF THE PRESIDENT'S MEETINGS.

SO I THINK WE NEED AS A PRIORITY TO FIND A WAY TO COMMUNICATE WITH THEM, EVEN IF IT IS ONLY TO GIVE THE SUMMARY OF THOSE MEETINGS.

AS FOR THE PUBLIC INPUT, WE'RE ALL IN A POSITION OF SOMEWHAT PARANOIA OF WHAT'S HAPPENING WHEN ANY COUNCIL OR INSTITUTION WANTS TO MAKE A CHANGE. WHAT MAKES IT WORSE IS WHEN WE HAVE EVIDENCE TO BACK UP THAT PARANOIA.

THE EVIDENCE, OR RATHER THE EXPERIENCES OF PREVIOUS PUBLIC ENGAGEMENTS, WERE, AS SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES HAVE BEEN BEEN INVOLVED WITH THEM AND EXPERIENCED AS I HAVE THE OVERTAKE OF ONE INTERESTED STAKEHOLDER HOLDER OVER WAY ABOVE OVER THE RESIDENTS AND THE TIMING THAT'S IN PLACE CURRENTLY FOR THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT OF NOVEMBER AND FEBRUARY LEAD INTO THAT.

OBVIOUSLY THOSE LET'S HAVE THE AVENUE OF BUSINESS V RESIDENTIAL QUESTS CAN SOMETIMES CONFLICT WHILST THE BUSINESSES ARE GOING TO BE PAYING ATTENTION MOST OF THE TIME, IF NOT ALL THE TIME.

THE RESIDENTS MAY NOT HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE PRESENT TO HAVE THAT INPUT, AND THERE ARE A LOT MORE RESIDENTS THAN THERE ARE BUSINESSES, SO I THINK WE NEED TO FIND AN AVENUE TO SEPARATE THAT.

I'M FINE PERSONALLY WITH THE NOVEMBER TO GET THINGS STARTED, BUT WHETHER THERE IS A MOVEMENT OF, LET'S SAY, EARLY JANUARY, LATE FEBRUARY TO STILL FIT IN WITH THE TIME FRAME AND THE CONTRACT OBLIGATIONS YOU GUYS HAVE.

BUT I THINK IF WE HAVE A JANUARY, LATE FEBRUARY OR A IDEALLY LATE JANUARY, LATE MARCH OPPORTUNITY FOR THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT COMBINED WITH COMMUNICATION TO THE PUBLIC AND THE RESIDENTS OF WHAT'S GOING ON, AND ALSO A BETTER INPUT FROM THE PAB REPRESENTATIVE SO WE CAN DO OUR JOB THE BEST WE CAN AS WELL.

SO THERE'S A FEW THINGS THAT ASK, AND THERE'S A FEW THINGS OF CONCERN.

AND I THINK THEY ALL GELLED TOGETHER. IT'S ABOUT SHARING THE INFORMATION.

WE DID A MINIMAL EFFORT TO MEET OUR OBLIGATIONS FOR THE STATE.

WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THIS IS A GOLDEN OPPORTUNITY, THAT WE DO NOT WASTE THIS BECAUSE IT'S THE RESIDENTS AND NAPLES AS A COMMUNITY, NOT JUST RESIDENTS, BUT ALSO BUSINESSES WHICH WOULD PAY THE PRICE IF WE ROUGH SHOT THIS PROCESS.

YOU MADE A COMMENT EARLIER THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE A SURVEY.

IN MANY RESPECTS, THAT'S THE BEST WAY TO GET EVERYBODY'S INPUT, BECAUSE MY EXPERIENCE IN PUBLIC HEARINGS IS PEOPLE THAT ARE NEGATIVELY IMPACTED ARE THE MOST VOCAL AND THE PEOPLE THAT LIKE THE WAY THINGS ARE NEVER SHOW UP.

SO I WOULD HOPE THAT YOU MIGHT I MEAN, ANDREW HAS EXPERIENCE WITH SURVEYS, BUT YOU'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, THE WAY YOU WORD THE QUESTION IS REALLY GOT TO BE MORE OPEN ENDED AND NOT CONCLUSORY AND THE WAY YOU DO IT.

BUT I THINK YOU'VE HEARD WHAT OUR CONCERNS ARE.

I THINK YOU NEED TO HAVE SOME DISCUSSIONS ABOUT HOW YOU CAN BEST ACCOMMODATE THAT.

WE DON'T EXPECT YOU TO BE ABLE TO MAKE A DECISION YOURSELF TODAY.

YOU'RE DEALING WITH A LOT OF PEOPLE, BUT I WOULD SAY THE SURVEY NOT ONLY NEEDS TO BE SENT OUT, BUT I HAVE A THREE TIME RULE. NOBODY PAYS ANY ATTENTION TO ANYTHING UNTIL IT SHOWS UP THREE TIMES.

IT'S A GOOD POINT. SO I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO REALLY HAVE SOMEBODY ON TOP OF THAT SENDING IT OUT, SENDING OUT REMINDERS. YOU CAN'T MAKE PEOPLE RESPOND, BUT AT LEAST THEY CAN'T COMPLAIN.

IF THEY DIDN'T. YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE LESS GROUNDS THAT THEY DIDN'T GET THE SURVEY OR DIDN'T KNOW.

SO YOU'RE GOING TO NEED A TRACKING NUMBER ON EVERY SURVEY.

KNOW WHO'S RESPONDED. WHO HASN'T. NOT FOR THE PURPOSE OF KNOWING WHAT PEOPLE ARE IDENTIFYING WHO'S IN FAVOR OF WHAT.

BUT IN IDENTIFYING WHETHER YOU GOT THE SURVEY BACK AND I CAN'T SAY THAT BRIANNA HAS BEEN WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH

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MONIQUE TO COMPILE A VERY EXTENSIVE LIST OF EMAILS.

SO WE WILL HAVE A HUGE DATABASE OF EMAILS THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO BLAST ALL THIS INFORMATION OUT TO.

FOR CONTEXT. IT WAS AN INVESTMENT BUSINESS. WE CALL IT COMPRESSION SCHEDULE COMPRESSION.

AND I WOULD PROPOSE THAT WE HAVE A MEETING IN THE BEGINNING PART OF JANUARY, THE MIDDLE PART OF FEBRUARY AND THE END OF MARCH, SO WE CAN GET AS MUCH VOLUME OF DATA. AND PEOPLE WILL KNOW THAT THEY WERE HEARD AND WERE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH THAT IN SIX WEEK INCREMENTS, PERHAPS AS, AGAIN, A PROPOSAL JUST TO TO GET THIS BALL MOVING IN THE DIRECTION WHERE WE CAN HAVE EVERYBODY AND NOT HAVE THE THE HOA PRESIDENTS AND PRESIDENTS COUNCIL FILTER THINGS THAT ARE MORE BENEFICIAL TO SOME OF THEIR INTERESTS VERSUS THE ACTUAL RESIDENTS.

SO I WOULD USE THE TERM COMPRESSION INTO SIX WEEK WINDOWS.

THAT'S MY THOUGHT. THANK YOU. OKAY, I DON'T WANT TO BEAT THIS DEAD HORSE.

I THINK WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE PUBLIC INPUT CONCERNS.

YOU WANT TO ARE THERE OTHER COMMENTS AT THIS POINT IN TIME OTHER THAN THE THE DATE AND THE PUBLIC INPUT CONCERNS? SO IF YOU WANT TO PROCEED WITH YOUR PRESENTATION, IF I COULD JUST ASK ONE QUESTION ABOUT WILL THERE BE IS THERE SCHEDULED A PAB ONLY WORKSHOP OR WORKSHOPS WITH THE CITY COUNCIL? THE OCTOBER 8TH ONE IS BEFORE YOU YOUR BOARD. AND THEN DURING THE DRAFTING PHASE, WHICH IS IN MARCH AND THEN IN MAY WOULD BE JUST BEFORE YOU GUYS.

YEAH. THANK YOU. ACCORDING TO THE CURRENT SCHEDULE.

YEAH. OKAY. THANK YOU. PROCEED. THAT WAS THE END OF OUR PRESENTATION.

WE WERE JUST READY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE ABOUT ANY OF THE MATERIALS OR ANY MORE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE SCHEDULE.

WELL, WE'RE STILL ON THE SCHEDULE UPDATE PERIOD.

AND I THINK THAT EVERYBODY IS PRETTY UNANIMOUS THAT ANYTHING YOU CAN DO TO IMPROVE INPUT DURING THE JANUARY, FEBRUARY, MARCH PERIOD IS IMPORTANT AND THE IMPORTANCE OF A PROPERLY WORDED SURVEY AND FOLLOW UP WITH THAT.

SO I THINK THAT'S OUR COMMENTS. UNLESS SOMEBODY ELSE HAS SOMETHING ELSE. JUST ONE BOUQUET FOR CITY COUNCIL.

I'D LIKE TO THANK THEM FOR MOVING THE PAB UP IN THE FOOD CHAIN, AS IT WERE, TO BE A BIGGER, BIGGER PART OF THIS. SO THANK THE CITY COUNCIL.

COUNCILWOMAN PETROV'S HERE, SO THANK YOU. ARE WE GOING TO GO THROUGH ANY OF THE OTHER DOCUMENTS? YEAH, WE'RE GOING TO GO LOOK AT THE NEXT WOULD BE TRAFFIC STUDY, I BELIEVE.

IS THAT CORRECT, ERICA? ALL OF THE DOCUMENTS THAT ARE PROVIDED IN THERE ARE UP FOR DISCUSSION TODAY.

THERE WERE TWO THAT ARE IN FOR REVIEW IN A DRAFT FORM THAT THEY WERE SEEKING INPUT BEFORE THE FINAL.

THEY FINALIZED THOSE DOCUMENTS, AND THOSE WOULD BE THE THERE'S THE CURRENT CONDITIONS REPORT AND THE SCHEDULE OF I'M SORRY, SUMMARY REPORT. ANY COMMENT ON ANY OF THOSE? AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO PROVIDE THOSE COMMENTS RIGHT HERE TODAY.

OKAY. YOU CAN PROVIDE THOSE COMMENTS TO ME IF YOU WANT TO, YOU KNOW, REDLINE THE DOCUMENTS AND PROVIDE THOSE TO ME.

I CAN PROVIDE THEM TO THE CONSULTANT. BUT WE DO ASK THAT YOU DO THAT BY FRIDAY.

OKAY. I GUESS I HAVE ONE OTHER CONCERN THAT WE HAVE ALWAYS BEEN FRUSTRATED BY THE NATURE OF THE TRAFFIC STUDIES THAT HAVE BEEN CONDUCTED HERE, SO I'M JUST SPEAKING TO THE CHOIR.

BUT WHEN WE'VE HAD TRAFFIC, IT'S BEEN OUR IMPRESSION THAT WHEN WE'VE HAD TRAFFIC STUDIES IN THE PAST, THEY LOOK AT A PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT AND SEE WHAT IT ADDS TO THE TRAFFIC PATTERN THAT OCCURS WITHIN NAPLES.

WELL, WE'RE PART OF A COUNTY WITH AN AWFUL LOT OF PEOPLE WHOSE SOLE DESIRE IN LIFE IS TO COME TO NAPLES FOR DINNER.

AND SO I HOPE YOUR TRAFFIC STUDIES ARE BROADLY BASED, AND CONSIDER THE REGION IN WHICH WE'RE IN AND THE COUNTYWIDE TRAFFIC FLOWS THAT THAT IMPACT US AND OUR BROADER IN SCOPE, BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAN YOU MIGHT BE FOR A SINGLE BUILDING OR DEVELOPMENT. AND THEN THE OTHER THING TO CONSIDER, PLUS OR MINUS, IS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE FAIRLY WELL BUILT OUT HERE.

SO WHAT WE'RE GETTING AN AWFUL LOT OF IS REDEVELOPMENT OF EXISTING PROPERTIES.

SOMETIMES TO HIGHER DENSITY AND SOMETIMES TO LOWER.

BUT I THINK THAT THAT NEEDS TO BE CONSIDERED.

SO I'D LIKE TO JUST MAKE THAT COMMENT. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, I KNOW YOU GUYS ARE WORRIED ABOUT SEA RISE.

I THINK WE'VE REALLY GOT TO THINK THAT ONE THROUGH FOR A CITY LIKE NAPLES.

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THE COMMENTS ABOUT THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEER ISSUE WE HAVE AN UNANSWERED A LOT OF UNANSWERED QUESTIONS THERE.

SO I JUST HOPE THAT YOU GUYS, I'M SURE OTHERS HAVE EXPRESSED THE SAME CONCERNS.

ABSOLUTELY. AND RESILIENCY IS A BIG PART OF THIS.

THE CITY HAS BEEN DOING A NUMBER OF RESILIENCY EFFORTS, AND THIS COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WANTS TO REACH OUT TO THOSE STRATEGIES AND RECOMMENDATIONS AND INCLUDE THEM, BECAUSE IT IS FAIRLY SILENT IN THERE NOW.

AND WE HAVE A REQUEST, REQUEST TO SPEAK TO US BY BETH.

BETH. I'VE GOT SOME COMMENTS AS WELL, IF I MAY.

OKAY. GO AHEAD. OKAY. YOU KNOW, JUST SOME BIG PICTURE POINTS.

YOU KNOW, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE. WELL, OBVIOUSLY THIS PLAN IS, IS MEANT TO IMPACT THE CITY FOR THE NEXT 20 YEARS.

SO THE CITY GOVERNMENT WILL BE JUDGED IN 2045 BY WHAT WE DO RIGHT NOW.

AND SO, TO ME, THIS IS AN EXTRAORDINARILY IMPORTANT PLANNING PROCESS THAT WE NEED TO GET RIGHT.

FROM A BIG PICTURE POINT OF VIEW, I THINK WE HAVE TO REALLY TAKE A LOOK AT, AT OUR CITY PLANNING FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF, OF ARE WE GOING TO FOCUS ON THE RESIDENTS OR OR ARE WE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT ECONOMIC ENGINES AND TOURISM? AND I THINK THAT OUR VALUE STUDY ANSWERS THAT QUESTION.

THE VALUE STUDY THAT YOU HAVE REFERENCED IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN EVALUATION.

I JUST WANTED TO AUGMENT THAT A LITTLE BIT. OUR VALUES TELL US THAT OUR PLACE, AS IT'S CALLED IN THE PLAN, IS VIEWED AS VERY IMPORTANT BY 80% OF THE RESIDENTS.

OUR NATURE VIEWED AS VERY IMPORTANT BY 75% OF THE RESIDENTS.

OUR EXPERIENCE, WHICH, AGAIN, IS THE CHARACTER IN NATURE OF OUR CITY, 71% OF THE RESIDENTS CONSIDER IT VERY IMPORTANT.

BUT THEN IF YOU LOOK DOWN TOWARD OUR ECONOMY, WHICH INCLUDES THINGS LIKE THE AIRPORT, THAT'S CONSIDERED VERY IMPORTANT BY ONLY 44% OF THE RESIDENTS. AND SO I THINK WE REALLY NEED TO FOCUS ON HOW WE MAKE NAPLES A GREAT PLACE FOR THE RESIDENTS.

AND SO I THINK THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT. THE SECOND POINT THAT I'D MAKE, I WAS VERY HAPPY TO SEE IN YOUR YOUR SUMMARY OF THE, YOU KNOW, YOUR EVALUATION OF THE PLAN I THINK IS AT PAGE 13.

YES. PAGE 13. IT AGREES COMPLETELY WITH MY VIEWPOINT, WHICH SAYS WE RESILIENCE MUST PERMEATE EVERYTHING WE DO, EVERY DECISION WE MAKE AS A CITY AND FROM THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN PERSPECTIVE NEEDS TO CONSIDER RESILIENCY, BECAUSE AGAIN, IN 2025, 2045, WE'RE GOING TO BE JUDGED ON WHAT WE DO WITH RESPECT TO RESILIENCY MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE.

AND SO I THINK WE HAVE TO GET THAT RIGHT. AND SO THE ONE, THE ONE THOUGHT I HAD IN THE SLIDE PRESENTATION THAT YOU DID ON THE SUMMARY OF PROJECT STATUS ON THE FIRST PAGE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT THE TEN ELEMENTS PLUS THE THE THREE ADDITIONAL ELEMENTS.

I WONDER IF YOU COULD JUST GIVE SOME THOUGHT TO WHETHER RESILIENCY SHOULD BE A STANDALONE POINT ELEMENT IN THAT PLAN.

I KNOW IT PERMEATES ALL THE OTHER ELEMENTS, BUT I JUST WANT YOU TO CONSIDER WHETHER WE SHOULDN'T HAVE RESILIENCY AS ITS OWN ELEMENT IN OUR IN OUR CONSIDERATIONS. SO THOSE ARE MY MAJOR POINTS.

I JUST WANTED TO MENTION TWO SMALL THINGS, MAYBE NOT SMALL.

I HOPE THAT IN RESILIENCY THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT SPONGE CITY PRINCIPLES BECAUSE A NUMBER OF CITIES ARE STARTING TO INCORPORATE THOSE PRINCIPLES INTO THEIR LAND PLANNING. LAND USE PLANNING WITH SOME SUCCESS.

SO SPONGE CITY PRINCIPLES. AND THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO TO MENTION IS JUST WHETHER IT'S POSSIBLE TO INCORPORATE THE EVERGLADES AND THE IMPACT IT HAS ON NAPLES. YOU KNOW, WHETHER AND WATER, WHETHER WE CAN INCORPORATE ANY SORT OF FEATURES THAT USES THE EVERGLADES TO HELP US WITH RESILIENCY. AND SO THOSE ARE MY BIG PICTURE ITEMS THAT I WANTED TO SHARE TODAY.

ANYBODY ELSE DOWN HERE? THE COUNTY IS IS NOT OBLIVIOUS TO ALL THIS.

I WOULD ENCOURAGE ERICA AND STAFF TO COMMUNICATE WITH COMMISSIONER KOWAL, WHO REPRESENTS THE COUNTY COMMISSIONER AND ENCOMPASSES THE ENTIRE CITY BECAUSE THEY HAVE RESOURCES, WE HAVE RESOURCES.

BUT TO HAVE HIM THEN BE ABLE TO CONVEY THAT TO HIS COLLEAGUES ON THE COUNTY BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS, I THINK THE MORE WE CAN INCLUDE PEOPLE THAT ARE ARE PART OF THIS PUZZLE AND REPRESENT THE ENTIRE CITY AT THE DIFFERENT GOVERNMENTAL LEVELS,

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I THINK THAT WOULD BENEFIT US GREATLY. THANK YOU.

I'D JUST LIKE TO REITERATE THE DISAPPOINTMENT WE'VE HAD WITH PARKING.

BUT AS A CORRECTION, TRAFFIC, BUT AS AN ADJUNCT TO PARKING FOLKS WHO COME TO THE BEACH OR COME TO THE RESTAURANTS NEED TO PARK SOMEWHERE.

SO I WOULD VERY MUCH HOPE THAT WE CAN HAVE A DEEP DIVE INTO PARKING AS WELL IN THIS.

I ALSO NOTICED REFERENCE IN ONE OF THE DOCUMENTS IN THIS PACK ARE REFERENCE TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

IS THIS AFFORDABLE HOUSING OR IS THIS WORKFORCE HOUSING? BECAUSE THE TWO ARE OBVIOUSLY VERY DIFFERENT AND WE HAVE A SHORTAGE OF WORKFORCE HOUSING HERE.

CORRECT. IF YOU CAN POINT ME TO WHERE YOU'RE LOOKING.

OH, YOU KNOW, I WAS LOOKING AT THIS YESTERDAY.

I CAN'T REMEMBER WHERE IT WAS. IS THERE ANYONE ON OUR CALL THAT MIGHT BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THAT QUESTION? WELL, MAYBE. MAYBE ADDRESS THE FIRST QUESTION. WILL WE BE HAVING A DIVE INTO PARKING AS WELL AS TRAFFIC? SURE. KIMLEY-HORN. GOOD. GOOD AFTERNOON. OR MORNING? STILL. LAURA DEJOHN WITH JOHNSON ENGINEERING.

WORKING TOGETHER WITH. WITH CRISSY. JUST GIVEN HER A LITTLE ASSIST HERE.

ON THE TRAFFIC AND PARKING QUESTION. WELL, WELL UNDERSTOOD ON OUR PART.

AND WE DO HAVE COLLEAGUES WHO ARE ALSO AT OUR COMPANY CURRENTLY EMBROILED IN THE DOWNTOWN PARKING OR DOWNTOWN TRAFFIC STUDY.

WORKING WITH YOUR ENGINEERING STAFF. AND BECAUSE OF THAT FAMILIARITY, IT'S GOING TO BE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO LEVERAGE THE POLICY DIRECTIONS AND THE CHANGES IN EVALUATIONS OF TRAFFIC STUDIES THAT ARE CURRENTLY OCCURRING AT THE CITY AND INFUSING THAT LEVEL OF, YOU KNOW, THE POLICY DIRECTIONS WE LEARNED FROM THAT DOWNTOWN TRAFFIC STUDY WILL BE TIMELY IN BEING ABLE TO BE INFUSED INTO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AS WELL.

AND I THINK IT'S CUMULATIVE AND COMPREHENSIVE TRAFFIC ANALYSIS.

THAT KIND OF IS THE NEW DIRECTION THAT NEEDS TO BE TAKEN WITH DOING TRAFFIC STUDIES ANYTIME THERE'S A NEW DEVELOPMENT PROJECT.

SO THAT WORK THAT'S UNDERWAY IS GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, A TIMELY COINCIDENCE THAT THE COMP PLAN IS BEING UPDATED AT THE SAME TIME AND THEY CAN BE BOTH DONE TOGETHER FROM A PARKING STANDPOINT, OF COURSE, TRAFFIC AND PARKING ARE VERY INTERRELATED.

AND THIS JUST TO LIKE MAKE SURE EXPECTATIONS ARE CLEAR FOR A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

IT WILL BE A POLICY DOCUMENT. THERE WON'T BE ANALYSIS THAT CREATES ALL NEW PARKING ARRANGEMENTS.

YOU KNOW, THERE WON'T BE A NEW PARKING PLAN, PER SE, THAT THAT YOU GET OUT OF A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WHERE YOU SEE NEW, NEW PROPOSED PLACES FOR PARKING TO BE ACCOMMODATED IN OR OUTSIDE THE CITY.

BUT IT WILL BE POLICY DIRECTION ON HOW TO FORESEE THE WAYS PARKING SOLUTIONS ARE GOING TO MAKE SENSE GIVEN THE CIRCUMSTANCES OF THE CITY AND THE PRESSURES ON THE BEACHES AND THE COMMERCIAL AREAS.

SO JUST JUST TO BE CLEAR, THAT POLICY WILL BE THE OUTCOME OF THIS, THIS DOCUMENT, NOT A PHYSICAL DESIGN PLAN FROM A PRACTICAL PERSPECTIVE.

I REALLY APPRECIATE IF WE CAN GET SOME INPUT FROM THE LIKES OF TRINITY SCOTT FROM COLLIER COUNTY, WHO I THINK IS LET'S SAY A GOOD EXAMPLE OF A PRACTITIONER WITH POLICY UNDERSTANDING AS WELL.

SO I THINK IF HER INVOLVEMENT COULD BE GAINED, I THINK THAT WILL HELP US ALONG.

YEAH. AND I HEARD THAT, YOU KNOW, THE INTERGOVERNMENTAL COORDINATION POINT DOES MAKE A LOT OF SENSE.

AND WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, EMBARKED UPON THE THEORIES AND THE THOUGHTS OF SOME TYPE, YOU KNOW, MORE MORE ENGAGEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE COUNTY SO THAT PLANNING DECISIONS AND PLANNING IMPACTS THAT ARE OCCURRING IN THE COUNTY ARE MORE THAT THE CITY STAFF AND CITY LEADERSHIP IS MORE AWARE OF WHAT THOSE THOSE INITIATIVES ARE AND THE COUNTY SIDE AND VICE VERSA, YOU KNOW, KEEP THAT COORDINATION, MAKE THAT COORDINATION STRONGER.

MY SECOND SORRY MY MY SECOND TOPIC WAS BASICALLY REFERENCE TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING VERSUS WORKFORCE HOUSING.

AND THE TWO ARE SEPARATE. SO AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS SOMETHING THAT HAS TO BE ADDRESSED FOR FLORIDA STATUTES.

AND HISTORICALLY, THE CITY HAS DONE THAT COORDINATION TO SAY THAT BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE COUNTY, AFFORDABLE HOUSING NEEDS WILL BE MET. AFFORDABILITY IS BASED ON THE THE AREA MEDIAN INCOME LEVEL.

IT'S LIKE AN ALARM OVER. YEAH. THE AREA MEDIAN INCOME LEVEL OF THIS AREA IS APPROACHING $120,000 PER HOUSEHOLD AS AN AREA MEDIAN INCOME. SO IT'S A MATHEMATICAL EQUATION THAT DETERMINES WHAT QUALIFIES AS AFFORDABLE AND YES,

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WORKFORCE HOUSING. YOU DO THE THE FORMULA ACCORDING TO UP TO 140% OF THAT AREA MEDIAN INCOME TO DETERMINE THAT YOU ARE OFFERING OPPORTUNITIES FOR PEOPLE TO LIVE WHERE THEY WORK.

SO WE WILL BE LOOKING AT WORKFORCE HOUSING NEEDS.

YES, THAT IS PART OF THE EQUATION. YES. THANK YOU.

THE THE EXPERIENCE AGAIN. I DON'T WANT TO BEAT A DEAD HORSE WITH THE COLLIER COUNTY COASTAL STORM COMMITTEE WITH THE ARMY CORPS.

BUT THAT WAS A BIG SWING AND A MISS WHEN WE HAD THE POTENTIAL TO GET A WHOLE LOT OF MONEY FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO TALK ABOUT RESILIENCY.

THAT WAS A HUGE SWING AND A MISS. AND IF WE CAN LEARN FROM THE MISTAKES, AND I WAS INVOLVED IN THAT COMMITTEE.

WE MET TWICE AS A COMMITTEE, BUT IT WAS JUST A HUGE SWING AND A MISS BASED ON HOW IT WAS STRUCTURED.

SO HAVING COLE IN LIKE RIGHT NOW WE'RE IN A CLAM BAY ISSUE, WHICH IS NAPLES, VERY NORTH END.

I LIVE THERE. SO THESE KINDS OF MATTERS, WE CANNOT AFFORD A SWING AND A MISS.

SO I IMPLORE YOU TO REACH IN ERICA, WITH THE STAFF, WITH THE COUNTY AND THE COMMENT ABOUT TRINITY, SOME VERY, VERY CAPABLE PEOPLE AT THE COUNTY THAT HAVE A WHOLE LOT TO SAY HERE.

APPRECIATE THAT. OKAY. GOOD. GOOD POINT. OKAY.

ANY BILL? YEAH, I HAVE HAD SOME SMALL ONES. WE TALKED ABOUT GETTING COMMUNICATION TO THE COMMUNITY AND STUFF.

COMMUNICATION. I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT EXACTLY WHO'S IN THE CITIES? THE THE PRESIDENT'S COUNCIL AND STUFF, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S A BUNCH OF HOA'S WHO AREN'T.

I DON'T KNOW HOW BIG THEY ARE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT SIZES, BUT I THINK THAT THE POINT IS, IS THAT THE MAJORITY AND THE MAJORITY ARE NOT PART.

OKAY, THEN YOU NEED TO EXPAND THE PRESIDENT'S COUNCIL TO INCLUDE I'LL JUST CALL SIGNIFICANT ALL SIGNIFICANT HOAS AND GIVE THEM THE OPTION TO PARTICIPATE IN THESE THINGS, BECAUSE THAT IS ONE WAY IN WHICH WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT I THINK OF ALL THE CLOSEST THINGS.

THE HOA IS THE CLOSEST GROUP TO GET TO THE PEOPLE.

I THINK I WOULD I WOULD GUESS SO I WOULD TRY TO DO THAT.

AND I HEARD LOUD AND CLEAR THAT I HEARD LOUD AND CLEAR THAT COMMENT.

AND WE ARE WE'RE DOING THE CASTANET APPROACH TO GET WORD OUT ALL DIFFERENT POSSIBLE WAYS WE CAN.

PRESIDENT'S COUNCIL IS AN ELEMENT OF THAT. AND THEN AS YOU'RE SAYING, THERE'S THERE'S WE HAVE TO REACH WAY BEYOND PRESIDENT'S COUNCIL TO OTHER GROUPS AND OTHER ORGANIZATIONS AND OTHER HOA'S JUST AND JUST ON THAT.

I HAVE A QUICK FIX SOLUTION FOR THAT. AND THAT IS IF A SHORT AGENDA POINT COULD BE CREATED EITHER BY THE CITY OR WHATEVER, AND THEN ASK THE HOA TO INCLUDE THAT WITHIN THE AGENDA OF THE NEXT THREE MONTHS.

IT'S GIVING THEM A SHORT BULLET POINT OF WHAT THE HELL IS A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AND IT MAKES IT EASY FOR ANY BOARD TO BE ABLE TO DO THIS WITHOUT HAVING DEPTH OF KNOWLEDGE THEMSELVES.

AGREED. AND I'M GOING TO PROPOSE. IT'S A TWO WAY STREET.

SO IF CHRIS, YOU COULD BRING UP THE THE WEB PAGE INFORMATION AGAIN, WE YOU KNOW, THIS HAS BEEN A LOT OF GROUND TO COVER TODAY WITH YOU ALL AND APPRECIATE YOUR PATIENCE AND YOUR INPUT WHEN GOING ON THAT NAPLES 2045 WEB PAGE.

THERE, THERE'S A PRETTY OBVIOUS, BUT WE PROBABLY NEED TO BE MORE EXPLICIT AND DO A HELP ME BUTTON.

THERE IS A PLACE TO ENTER ONE'S EMAIL ADDRESS, AND ONCE A PERSON ENTERS THEIR EMAIL ADDRESS, THEY BECOME AUTOMATICALLY IN THIS COMMUNICATION INVENTORY WHERE THAT INDIVIDUAL IS GOING TO GET MONTHLY OR MORE BASED ON THE ACTIVITY WE'VE GOT GOING ON AT LEAST A MONTHLY BLAST OF EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR, BULLET POINTS OF WHERE WE'RE AT IN THE PROCESS, WHAT'S NEXT, WHAT'S COMING, HOW TO GET INVOLVED. AND SO WE'LL DO OUR BEST.

BUT BUT THE MORE WE'RE BROADCASTING OUT TO HOA LEADERS WITHIN THIS, THE CITY, IF THEY PLEASE PUT THEIR EMAIL ADDRESS IN OUR WEBSITE, THEY'RE DEFINITELY GOING TO BE GETTING A DIRECT STREAM OF INFORMATION, ALL THE TIME FROM US.

I THINK ON THAT VERY POINT, AND I KNOW WE'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY OF HEARING FROM THE SPEAKER, FROM THE CITY COUNCIL. I, FOR ONE, WOULD LIKE TO TRY AND GET THAT INPUT NOW, BECAUSE I THINK THAT INPUT COULD SHAPE OUR IDEAS AS WELL.

IF WE CAN HEAR FROM MY SECOND PLACE, I HAD TWO.

SO WE GOT THE HOSE. AND I THINK THAT THEY HAVE PERIODIC EMAILS THAT GO TO ALL THEIR CONSTITUENCIES AND STUFF.

AND SO AS YOU SAID, WE HAVE A TALK TRACK. HERE'S WHAT HERE'S WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE.

YOU KNOW, LET THEM COMMUNICATE THAT BECAUSE THAT'S PROBABLY THE BY FAR THE BEST WAY TO GETTING TO THE THE RESIDENTS.

THE SECOND QUESTION IS THE EMAILS. WHO IS SUPPOSED TO SUBMIT THE INFORMATION ON THEIR INPUTS AND STUFF? IS IT JUST PEOPLE WHO HAVE RESIDENCY HERE AND HAVE BUSINESSES HERE, AS OPPOSED TO SOMEBODY FROM NEW YORK CITY WHO HAPPENS TO COME HERE FOR A WEEK AND STUFF

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LIKE THAT? BECAUSE I'M JUST, YOU KNOW, WHAT? WHAT TYPICALLY DO WE SHOULD WE BE DOING? SHOULD WE BE FOCUSING ON JUST PEOPLE WHO HAVE INTERESTS HERE.

RESIDENCY. SO SOMEHOW WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT YOU MENTIONED WE HAVE LOTS OF EMAILS.

WELL, WE WANT TO HAVE A LOT OF GOOD EMAILS. WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE A LOT OF EMAILS BECAUSE I WAS I DID A SURVEY HERE ONCE WITH ONE ISSUE AND STUFF, AND ONE OF THE SURVEYS HAD PROBABLY 50% OF THE THE EMAILS THAT HAD COMMENTS OF THESE THINGS WEREN'T EVEN RESIDENTS OF THE, OF THE CITY. AND SO ALL OF A SUDDEN, THE SKEW OF WHAT THEY WANT TO DO TOTALLY CHANGES FROM WHAT THE PEOPLE HERE WANT TO DO.

SO SOMEHOW WE NEED TO HAVE A WAY TO DO THAT. AS FAR AS OUTBOUND INFORMATION, YOU CAN HAVE AS MANY PEOPLE AS YOU WANT, BUT ON INBOUND WE NEED TO BE VERY SPECIFIC ON WHO GETS THE INPUT, BECAUSE THAT'S THE POINT I WAS GOING TO MAKE.

I MEAN, PUBLIC BODIES, PUBLIC ACTIVITIES GOING ON.

WE'RE GETTING THE WORD OUT TO ANY POSSIBLE ANY, ANY POSSIBLE END AND RECEIVER.

WHEN IT COMES TO THE INPUT, WE'VE HEARD ALSO LOUD AND CLEAR FROM COUNSEL AND FROM FROM YOUR STAFF AND AND JUST KNOW FROM PAST EXPERIENCE IN THE, IN THE CITY THAT OUR PUBLIC OUTREACH SPECIALIST IS, IS HONED IN ON THE FILTERING PROCESS THAT NEEDS TO OCCUR. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THERE'S THERE'S NO PERFECT PROCESS, BUT GETTING THOSE QUESTIONNAIRES OUT, OR THEY WILL EITHER BE BY EMAIL OR BY MAILER BECAUSE WE'LL DICTATE THE THE NATURE OF THE QUESTIONS WILL EITHER BE PHYSICAL ADDRESS, BECAUSE WE'RE ASKING CERTAIN QUESTIONS ABOUT A PHYSICAL PART OF THE CITY OR MORE GENERAL PHILOSOPHICAL QUESTIONS COULD GO TO PEOPLE BY EMAIL AND THE, THE, THE CLEARANCES THAT HAVE TO BE DONE IN ORDER TO RECEIVE THAT INPUT BACK ARE GOING TO BE MANAGED.

AND THEN THE, YOU KNOW, DATA IS DATA. ONCE YOU KNOW THAT THAT INDIVIDUAL HAS, YOU KNOW, INDICATED THEIR ADDRESS, THEIR ZIP CODE, THEIR INFORMATION, WHERE THEY ARE, IF THEY'RE SEASONAL OR PERMANENT, ALL THAT BUSINESS OWNER OR RESIDENT? THAT THAT'S FILTERABLE. SO THAT'S THAT'S HOW WE EXPECT TO RECEIVE THE INFORMATION.

AS ONE OF THE MEETINGS, YOU COULD EXPLAIN EXACTLY HOW YOU GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS.

YOU DON'T NEED TO SPEND AN HOUR, BUT NEXT MEETING PROBABLY OCTOBER.

SO HERE'S HOW WE'RE GOING TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE QUALITY STUFF.

BECAUSE IN THE INDUSTRY I WORK WITH A LOT OF CHANCES TO DO THINGS THE WRONG WAY.

SO OKAY. OCTOBER MEETING. WE'LL MAKE THAT A PRIORITY.

OKAY. I NEED YOUR COMMENT. YES. SO THESE AREN'T NEW TOPICS EVERYONE KNOWS AND KICKED AROUND.

WE'RE AT A CRITICAL POINT. WE'VE BEEN. BUT HERE IT IS.

SO MAYBE SOME OF IT BECAUSE OF WHAT HAPPENED IN SEPTEMBER OF 22.

BUT TO ME, THE KEY THING IS THE INFRASTRUCTURE.

IF THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS DONE AS A PRIORITY, THEN THAT WILL AFFECT RESILIENCY BECAUSE IT'LL HAVE THAT IN MIND.

THE SECOND POINT IS THAT THE PEOPLE, IN SPITE OF THEIR COMPLAINTS AND THEIR INDIVIDUAL THINGS, OR WHERE THEY'RE FROM, IS THAT THEY HAVE TO WANT TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS AND NOT JUST FOR THEM, FOR EVERYONE. AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT THE PLANNING ADVISORY BOARD IS ABOUT THE COMMONWEALTH, THE COMMON GOOD OF THE WHOLE AREA AND THE CIVICS OF IT.

AND IF STREETS GET DONE AND THEY NEED TO GET DONE, THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE ON THOSE STREETS, IT'S NOT A POPULAR TOPIC. THEY HAVE TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS.

IT CAN'T BE JUST THE CITY. IF THE STREET GETS RAISED, THEN, THEN THE PROPERTIES HAVE TO GO ALONG WITH IT.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PAVERS ON A GUY'S DRIVEWAY.

PERVIOUS. THERE'S WAYS TO DO ALL THIS. IT'S. AND IT HAS TO BE.

AND PEOPLE SELL AND MOVE AND DIFFERENT THINGS, BUT IT HAS TO BE INVOLVED IN THAT WHOLE THING.

AND THEN I THINK WHEN YOU START TO ASK QUESTIONS AND GET SURVEYS.

WE'RE REALLY TALKING ABOUT IMPROVEMENT INSTEAD OF JUST PLACATING COMPLAINTS.

BUT THEY'RE REALLY THE WORK THAT'S AND AND THE MONEY THAT'S GOING TO GET SPENT TO DO THAT.

BUT THAT'S A PERMANENT CHANGE THAT COULD LAST.

THAT'S THE RESILIENCY IN LOOKING FORWARD. AND TO ME.

SO IF THAT THESE QUESTIONS HAVE TO BE, I THINK TO ME IN THAT ORDER SO THAT THEY REALLY SEE OKAY WHAT DOES ALL THIS DO. SO BESIDES TRAFFIC AND PARKING AND THERE'S YOU COULD GO ON.

BUT THAT'S JUST WHAT I MY COMMENT I APPRECIATE THAT LAST COMMENT.

AND THEN WE HAVE COUNCILWOMAN IS THE HOUSES OF WORSHIP.

THE THE MINISTERS AND PASTORS IN THIS COMMUNITY ARE IN TOUCH WITH RESIDENTS THAT ATTEND THEIR, THEIR ENTITIES. SO THAT ONE AS WELL. AND I LOOK FORWARD TO HEAR FROM THE COUNCILWOMAN.

THANK YOU. COUNCILWOMAN PETROV, YOU SAID AT THE END, YOU MEAN THE END OF THE MEETING OR THE END OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DISCUSSION.

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OKAY, I THOUGHT SO. THANK YOU FOR COMING. I'M BETH PETRANOFF.

I'M ON CITY COUNCIL. I'M ALSO A CITIZEN OF THE CITY OF NAPLES.

JUST WANTED TO SAY A COUPLE COMMENTS ON WHAT? IT'S A GREAT RELIEF THAT THIS IS COMING IN FRONT OF YOU.

WE SELECT WE HAND-PICKED ALL OF YOU FOR THIS VOLUNTARY BOARD, AND I THINK IT IS A BRILLIANT BOARD.

IT'S THE ONE MEETING I ALWAYS WATCH BEFORE COUNCIL BECAUSE IT INFORMS MY DECISION.

THE MOST IMPORTANT THING, AND ONE OF THE BIGGEST REASONS WHY I RAN IS THE IS TO BE PART OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

SO I WANT YOU DEEPLY INVOLVED IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, LOOKING OVER EVERYTHING BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE TRUST YOU. YOU, YOU KNOW, UNLIKE, YOU KNOW, OTHER PEOPLE INVOLVED WITH THIS COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, YOU ACTUALLY LIVE IN THE CITY, SO YOU HAVE A VESTED INTEREST, JUST LIKE I DO.

AND JUST LIKE EVERY OTHER RESIDENT. AND YOU ARE CRITICAL TO THIS PROCESS FROM LOOKING AT WHETHER OR NOT THE SURVEY IS BIASED OR UNBIASED, MAKING SURE THAT THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN BECAUSE YOU ALL COME WITH UNIQUE SETS OF EXPERIENCE AND AND EXPERTISE, AND WE'RE GOING TO RELY HEAVILY ON YOU TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS GOING OUT TO THE RIGHT PEOPLE THAT WE HAVE DEFINED.

I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I'M GOING TO FINANCE A MARKETING BACKGROUND.

SO DEFINING OUR PRIMARY CUSTOMERS, WHO I KIND OF SEE AS OUR NAPLES RESIDENTS, AND THEN WE'VE GOT THE OVERLAY OF OUR BUSINESSES, THEN WE'VE GOT OUR, YOU KNOW, WE ARE A CITY OF NEIGHBORHOODS WITH HAPPY RESIDENTS THAT WELCOME VISITORS.

AND, AND, AND THE SURVEY SHOULD GO AS SUCH AND THAT THE QUESTIONS ARE UNBIASED, THAT WE HAVE, THAT WE ARE SENDING THEM OUT TO THE RIGHT PEOPLE.

I YOU KNOW, MONIQUE ISN'T THE ONLY SOURCE OF HAVING, YOU KNOW, THIS DATA.

NORMALLY WHEN I WENT OUT AND DID MARKETING CAMPAIGNS AND THINGS, YOU CAN BUY LISTS OF PEOPLE BY GEOGRAPHY, BY ANYTHING THAT YOU WANT, BY DEMOGRAPHIC OVERLAYS.

SO IF WE REALLY WANT TO GET A PARTICULAR LIKE JUST THE NAPLES RESIDENTS WE, WE CAN BUY THAT IF WE'RE NOT SURE OF IT.

ALSO, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S NO DUPLICATES.

AND THEN, FOR EXAMPLE, TO THINK HAVING THE PAB THINK THROUGH THIS AND HELP US DECIDE, YOU KNOW, DO WE ALLOW TWO, TWO MEMBERS OF A HOUSEHOLD TO RESPOND? YOU KNOW, MY HUSBAND MIGHT HAVE VERY DIFFERENT OPINIONS THAN I DO.

I THINK WE BOTH WE BOTH SHOULD BE MAYBE 49, 51 ON, ON SOME ON SOME OF THESE DECISIONS.

YOU KNOW, SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN WE'RE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT SEEING BECAUSE I HAVE, I HAVE FILLED OUT SURVEYS WHERE I KNOW THAT I'VE IT'S BEEN ACCEPTED 13 TIMES ON SURVEYS IN THE PAST.

THIS WAS BACK TO, I THINK, 2017. DON'T WANT THAT TO HAPPEN.

I WAS MORE TESTING THE WATERS. I WON'T DO THAT AGAIN.

BUT I DON'T WANT THAT TO BE ALLOWED TO HAPPEN.

AND WE NEED TO HAVE THOSE ASSURANCES THAT THOSE ARE BEING AUDITED OUT OF THERE.

IF WE NEED TO MAIL THEM, YOU KNOW, SO BE IT. WELL, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT WE WOULD NEED, YOU KNOW, IF WE NEED TO PUT A LITTLE BIT MORE FUNDS IN THERE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE GETTING GOOD DATA AND A GOOD TARGET, THEN SO BE IT THEN. THEN I THINK IT'S WORTH THAT EXERCISE, CONSIDERING THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING THAT WE WILL WORK ON IN MY TIME ON COUNCIL AND ON YOUR TIME ON PAB. SO I WANTED TO WHOLEHEARTEDLY THANK YOU.

I KNOW THESE JOBS DON'T PAY PARTICULARLY WELL.

THESE ARE THEY'RE ALL VOLUNTEERS FOR THE PUBLIC.

AND REALLY APPRECIATE WHAT YOU DO. I'M SO GLAD YOU'RE GETTING INVOLVED WITH THIS.

THE OTHER PIECE THAT I WANTED TO MENTION WAS, I'M GLAD THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING RELYING HEAVILY ON SURVEY DATA AND THE VERBATIMS WHEN I READ THE LAST COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, I THINK.

I DON'T KNOW, IT WAS A COUPLE HUNDRED PAGES, BUT I READ THROUGH THAT SEVERAL TIMES AND THERE VERBATIMS ARE THE ONES THAT REALLY SHINE A LIGHT ON WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN. AND YOU KNOW, I HOPE THAT THERE'S LOTS OF ROOM IN THIS SURVEY, AND I'D LOVE FOR YOU TO REVIEW THESE QUESTIONS, YOU KNOW, TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE NON-BIASED AND THAT THEY ARE GOING TO GIVE US THE MEAT AND POTATOES TO MAKE GOOD DECISIONS, GOOD POLICY DECISIONS.

BUT YOU KNOW, THAT IS THAT'S GOING TO BE A PRIMARY SOURCE.

THE PRESIDENT'S CLUB OR THE PRESIDENT'S COUNCIL IS IT WAS STARTED, I THINK, BY A CITY MANAGER.

AND IT YOU KNOW, IT REALLY IT VARIES ALL OVER THE MAP DEPENDING ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

SOME DON'T EVEN HAVE A PERSON TO ATTEND. I THINK THAT'S LIKE AN EXAMPLE OF THAT IS OYSTER BAY.

THEY DON'T HAVE THEY DON'T EVEN HAVE AN HOA TO ATTEND.

THEY ARE VOICELESS. THERE ARE OTHERS THAT JUST DON'T ATTEND.

YOU KNOW, THEY JUST DON'T ATTEND THE MEETINGS. AND THEN THERE ARE OTHERS THAT HAVE HAVE REPORTED THEMSELVES AS THE HOA PRESIDENT.

BUT WHEN YOU ASK RESIDENTS IN THE COMMUNITY, THEY'RE LIKE, OH YEAH, THEY TAKE CARE OF OUR BEACH PARK AND THAT IS THE LIMIT IN THEIR VIEWS. AND THEN THERE'S ALSO THE, YOU KNOW, THE BIT ABOUT THAT.

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HOAS ARE VOLUNTARY AND AND THE PRICING TO GET INTO THE HOA IS ALL OVER.

SOME PEOPLE DON'T ACCEPT THAT. SO YOU HAVE AN ELEMENT OF PEOPLE FROM COMPLETELY VOICELESS BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT PART OF THE HOA.

THEY LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THEY'RE NOT PART OF THE HOA. SO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE CAPTURED AS WELL.

AND ONCE AGAIN THANK YOU. THIS WILL BE THE MOST FUN THAT WE'VE HAD AND THE MOST I THINK IT CAN BE THE MOST YOU KNOW, INTENSIVE INTERESTING WORK THAT WE HAVE THAT MAY OUTLIVE US.

AND LET'S HOPE THAT, YOU KNOW, THE OUTPUT OF THIS IS GOING TO LEAVE A BETTER PLACE.

MY FINAL, FINAL THOUGHT IS, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE AN EXAMPLE CIRCULATED FROM YOU ON THE SURVEYS YOU'VE DONE IN OTHER CITIES, WHAT ARE THE QUESTIONS THAT ARE ASKED? FOR THAT AND HOW YOU HOW YOU ARE ABLE TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE ARE NOT DUPLICATES AND HOW YOU'RE ABLE TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE CITY RESIDENTS AND ALSO, YOU KNOW, CHALLENGE YOU TO DO A YOU KNOW, TO LOOK AT APPENDS BECAUSE YOU CAN APPEND A LOT OF DEMOGRAPHIC AND PSYCHOGRAPHIC DATA TO OUR RESIDENTS TO DIG A LITTLE DEEPER IN WHAT PEOPLE MAY NEED AND SOME OF THE MACRO TRENDS THAT ARE GOING ON, LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE WE'RE AN AVERAGE AGE OF 68.

WE HAVE DIFFERENT NEEDS. WE'RE IN A FLOOD ZONE.

WHAT ARE THOSE NEEDS? WHAT ARE THE EMERGING TRENDS IN HEALTH CARE, ETC., THAT WE MAY WANT TO INCORPORATE IN OUR IN OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

SO THIS IS OUR OPPORTUNITY TO DO IT. AND I THANK ALL OF YOU FOR VOLUNTEERING TO SPEND YOUR TIME IN, IN THESE SORT OF NOT VERY COMFORTABLE SEATS FOR HALF A DAY.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR TAKING THE TIME TO COME HERE.

WE APPRECIATE IT. THANKS. THANK YOU. GOOD. A LITTLE BIT CONCERNED THAT A COUNCIL MEMBER SEES THIS AS THE BEST FUN EVER.

I THINK THE COUNCIL MEMBERS NEED TO GET OUT A LITTLE BIT MORE.

ANDREW, SINCE YOU DO HAVE A BACKGROUND IN SURVEY, A LITTLE BIT, IF YOU COULD JUST COORDINATE WITH PLANNING STAFF TO, I THINK SOMEBODY FROM OUR BOARD TO LOOK AT THAT BEFORE IT GOES OUT WOULD BE HELPFUL.

SO I'M GOING TO TAKE A CHAIRMAN'S PREROGATIVE AND SAY YOU'RE THE GUY.

JUST A QUICK ONE ON THAT. I MEAN, WITH ANY DATA IT'S IT'S REFERRED TO AS WASHING THAT DATA.

IN OTHER WORDS, SEEING IT, YOU HAVE THINGS CALLED NODES AND CODES WHICH ALLOW YOU TO MANIPULATE.

I USED TO USE A PROGRAM CALLED NVIVO, BUT NOW I HAVE A BEST FRIEND CALLED GROK.

THE AI TOOLS THAT ARE AVAILABLE MAKES THIS A MUCH, MUCH EASIER TASK, BUT IT'S ABOUT DATA AND HOW TO MANIPULATE IT.

A FIRST WASH IS YOU DON'T MANIPULATE IT. YOU LISTEN TO IT BEFORE YOU EVEN ASK IT A QUESTION, WHICH IS MUCH EASIER NOW WITH AI. AND THEN YOU IMPOSE YOUR QUESTIONS AFTER THAT.

BUT ON SOME OF THE THINGS I'D LIKE THE CITY TO CONSIDER IS HOW THEY CAN.

THE CITY IS SENDING OUT INFORMATION TO MANY, MANY RESIDENTS.

IT COULD BE AN INVOICE, A BILL, OR A NOTIFICATION OF SOME SORT.

I FOUND THE MOST SUCCESSFUL WAY OF GETTING ENGAGEMENT IS TO USE A STRAP LINE ON THE BOTTOM OF THAT BILL TO SAY, ARE YOU AWARE OF A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND GIVE THEM SOME DIRECTION? VERY SIMPLE, VERY EASY, VERY LIGHTWEIGHT. AND THAT MAY GENERATE ITS OWN INTEREST AND ENTHUSIASM.

THE MORE PARTICIPATION THE BETTER OBVIOUSLY. OKAY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND JUST TO CLARIFY I THINK THAT THE DRAFT QUESTIONS OUGHT TO GO TO ALL THE PAB MEMBERS.

SURE. JUST COPY US ON IT. BUT, YOU KNOW, WITH OUR SUNSHINE LAWS, WE CAN'T SIT DOWN AND HAVE A DISCUSSION GUY.

SO EXCEPT AT THIS MEETING. YEAH. ANDREW'S ABOUT TO BEAT US UP.

BEFORE WE WRAP UP, I WANTED TO JUST TALK TO YOU ABOUT HOW TO COMMUNICATE WITH STAFF AND MYSELF AND TO AVOID SUNSHINE LAW VIOLATIONS.

SO WHEN YOU'RE READY TO WRAP THIS UP, I DO WANT TO MAKE A STATEMENT.

OKAY. WELL, LET ME JUST ASK ERICA, DO WE NEED ANYTHING MORE WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT UNDER EITHER THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN PLANNING OR THE TRAFFIC STUDY, WE'RE GETTING A REPORT ON THAT.

OR IS THAT THAT'S A SEPARATE ITEM? WE DON'T HAVE ANYONE HERE TO GIVE YOU A REPORT. THERE'S A MEMO IN THE IN THE MEMO, WHICH YOU'LL GET MORE LATER. THERE'S NOTHING REALLY TO DELIVER AT THIS POINT.

OKAY. THE ONLY THING I WOULD MENTION IS THERE ARE TWO DOCUMENTS IN HERE.

BOTH OF THEM HAVE THE WORD DRAFT. SO IT'S THE NAPLES 2045 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN EVALUATION STAFF REVIEW DRAFT.

AND THEN ALSO THERE'S A DOCUMENT THAT'S NAPLES 2045 CURRENT CONDITIONS REPORT.

STAFF REVIEW DRAFT. THOSE ARE THE TWO DOCUMENTS THAT IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS CONCERN INPUT YOU WANT TO PROVIDE.

TO ME THAT IS THE BEST WAY TO COMMUNICATE IS TO PROVIDE IT TO ME.

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AND I CAN PASS THAT ON TO THE CONSULTANT AS THEY DEVELOP THE FINAL VERSION.

SO I ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO GO BACK OVER THAT AND VIEW OF OUR DISCUSSIONS HERE.

AND IF YOU HAVE COMMENTS EMAIL OR CALL ERICA.

OKAY. JUST ON THAT VERY POINT, AS YOU GET THAT INFORMATION, YOU'RE TRYING TO MAKE SENSE OF IT.

CAN YOU THEN SHARE THAT BACK TO ALL THE MEMBERS? SO BECAUSE YOU KNOW, WE ARE LIMITED AS TO WHAT INDIVIDUAL KNOWLEDGE WE HAVE TO GATHER THAT INFORMATION FROM YOU.

AND I'M GOING TO GIVE THAT TO THE CONSULTANT, BECAUSE THAT'S ALL INPUT THAT THEY'RE GOING TO USE IN CREATING THE FINAL DRAFT OF THAT REPORT. OKAY. SO PROCEDURALLY, HERE'S HERE'S WHAT I WOULD I WOULD LIKE EVERYONE.

YOU ALL ARE, AS I SAID, OFFICERS, YOU TOOK OATHS.

YOU'RE PUBLIC OFFICERS. SO YOU HAVE TO ABIDE BY PUBLIC RECORDS, LAWS, SUNSHINE LAWS, THINGS LIKE THAT.

I BELIEVE THE BEST WAY, AS YOU DIG IN BETWEEN MEETINGS, AS YOU DIG INTO THESE THESE REPORTS AND HAVE QUESTIONS REGARDING PLANNING DIRECT THOSE TO ERIKA AND, AND THEN IF IF YOU WANT THINGS SHARED WITH THE REST OF THE BOARD, ERIKA WILL BE THE ONE THAT CAN SHARE THOSE. YOU ALL CANNOT DIRECTLY SHARE THOSE WITH THE WHOLE BOARD.

SHE CAN BLIND COPY THE ENTIRE BOARD WITH AN EMPHASIS SAYING DO NOT REPLY ALL.

EVEN IF YOU DID REPLY ALL, I WOULDN'T GO TO ALL OF YOU.

BUT THAT'S ONE WAY OF SHARING SOME INFORMATION.

GOING FORWARD, IF YOU HAVE LEGAL QUESTIONS REGARDING THE COMMUNITY PLANNING ACT OR ANY PROCEDURAL STUFF, YOU COULD DIRECT THEM TO ME. SO I THINK MY, MY, ME AND ERICA CAN BE YOUR POINT OF CONTACT.

AND AND AS YOU WANT TO SHARE THINGS WITH THE BOARD, ERICA KNOWS HOW TO DO THAT.

WITH THE BLIND COPY AND MAKING SURE THAT NOBODY REPLIES ALL TO ONE ANOTHER.

SO I PREFER PLEASE FOLLOW THAT AND REMEMBER ANYTHING THAT YOU DO OR CREATE EMAILS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

THOSE ARE PUBLIC RECORDS. YOUR, YOUR TEXT MESSAGES DON'T TEXT EACH OTHER, DON'T TEXT THINGS.

ANYTHING THAT RELATES TO THIS GOVERNMENT ROLE THAT YOU HAVE WOULD BE A PUBLIC RECORD.

SO BE MINDFUL OF THAT. OKAY. THANK YOU. THAT'S EXACTLY THE POINT I WAS REQUESTING IS THAT WHEN THAT INFORMATION WHICH WE'VE ALL GIVEN IN IS PASSED OVER, IS THAT THAT IS BOUNCED BACK TO US JUST SO WE HAVE A RECORD OF THAT.

I CAN JUST COMPILE IT IN ONE AND THEN SEND IT TO.

OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU ALL. WE APPRECIATE YOUR INPUT.

THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS. I GUESS YOU'RE RIGHT.

LUNCH JOHNSON ENGINEERING FOR BEING HERE. IT'S REALLY IT'S REALLY USEFUL, I THINK, TO HAVE HAVE YOU HERE TO TO GIVE US THE INFORMATION DIRECTLY.

AND I APPRECIATE THE EFFORTS. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

OKAY. THANK YOU ALL. AND JUST REMIND EVERYBODY YOU CAN GET ON THAT SITE AND GIVE ME YOUR EMAIL SO YOU KNOW WHAT.

WHAT'S GOING ON. SO WE'LL TAKE A WE'RE GOING TO COME BACK HERE AT 1230 OKAY.

WE'RE GOING TO TAKE ON BACK TO ITEM SEVEN A RESOLUTION DETERMINING CONDITIONAL USE PETITION 20 5Q6 PURSUANT TO

[7.E. A Resolution Determining Conditional Use Petition 25-CU6 Pursuant to Section 46- 34 of the Code of Ordinances Allowing Off-Site Parking Within 600 Feet Pursuant to Section 50-102(b)(2) of the Code of Ordinances, City of Naples, and Approving a Parking Needs Analysis Pursuant to Section 50-107 of the Code of Ordinances, City of Naples, for the Properties Located at 1148 3rd Street South and 375 Broad Avenue South, More Fully Described Herein; and Providing an Effective Date. (Erica Martin, Director of Planning)]

SECTION 4634 OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES ALLOWING OFF SITE PARKING WITHIN 600FT PURSUANT TO SECTION 5102 B2 OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES, CITY OF NAPLES, AND APPROVING A PARKING NEEDS ANALYSIS PURSUANT TO SECTION 5107 OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES, CITY OF NAPLES FOR THE PROPERTIES LOCATED AT 1148 THIRD STREET SOUTH AND 375 BROAD AVENUE SOUTH, MORE FULLY DESCRIBED HEREIN AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

PETITIONER, WE WANT TO SWEAR PEOPLE IN. I'LL REMEMBER SOMEDAY.

YOU GOT IT TODAY. DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU'RE ABOUT TO GIVE IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? THANK YOU.

MR. CHAIR. DISCLOSURES. NO. NOTHING TO DISCLOSE.

I AGAIN HAVE TO ABSTAIN FROM THIS JUST BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE ANY CONFLICTS.

BUT JUST IN CASE, YOU KNOW, I DO HAVE BUSINESS CLIENTS THAT ARE IN THE GENERAL AREA HERE THAT ARE KIND OF RELATED TO THIS.

SO IT'S BETTER TO BE SAFE THAN SORRY. OKAY. I MEAN, SO IN THE FUTURE, WE'LL WE'LL TALK ABOUT IF ANYBODY FEELS LIKE THEY HAVE A CONFLICT WHEN THEY LOOK AT THE AGENDA AHEAD OF TIME, BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME SPECIFICS WHERE THERE'S A FORMULA THAT YOU LOOK AT IS LIKE HOW ATTENUATED IT IS, WHETHER THERE. BUT IF YOU FEEL LIKE IN AN ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION, IT'S BETTER TO ABSTAIN THAN I WOULD GO AHEAD AND DO THAT.

BUT IN THE FUTURE, IF WE COULD TALK ABOUT IT BECAUSE THERE'S A BIT OF A TEST FOR THAT.

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NOTHING TO DISCLOSE. NOTHING TO DISCLOSE. AWARE OF THE PROPERTY? NOTHING TO DISCLOSE. LIKEWISE. I'VE WALKED THE PROPERTY TWICE BETWEEN THE TWO PROPERTIES.

ONCE DURING THE DAY. ONCE ABOUT THE TIME THE RESTAURANTS WOULD WOULD CLOSE, AND NOTHING FURTHER BEYOND THAT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. GOOD AFTERNOON.