Aug 18, 2025 City Council Budget Workshop

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YES. GOOD MORNING AND WELCOME TO THIS CITY COUNCIL WORKSHOP.

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COUNCIL MEMBER BARTON HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER CHRISTMAN HERE.

COUNCIL MEMBER. KRAMER HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER. PENNIMAN HERE.

COUNCIL MEMBER HERE. VICE MAYOR HUTCHINSON HERE.

MAYOR HEITMANN HERE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. IF YOU'LL STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

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AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

THANK YOU. IF ANYONE WISHES TO SPEAK IN PUBLIC, COMMENT ON ANY ITEM.

THERE ARE REGISTRATION FORMS IN THE BACK OF THE ROOM THAT CAN BE FILLED OUT AND GIVEN TO THE CLERK.

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WELCOME BACK. THANK YOU. NO CHANGES TO THE AGENDA, MA'AM.

OKAY. COUNCIL? OKAY. DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE BUDGET AS PROPOSED? AS PRESENTED. I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER PENMAN.

SECOND AND A SECOND BY BY COUNCIL MEMBER PETRINA. ALL IN FAVOR? SIGNED BY I. AYE.

OPPOSED? WELL, I'LL. I'LL JUST SAY INFORMALLY.

WELCOME BACK, COUNCIL. AND I HOPE I REMEMBER YOUR NAMES.

I HOPE YOU ALL HAD A GREAT SUMMER. I KNOW YOU ALL WORKED AND HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THE BUDGET AND I THANK STAFF FOR ALL THEIR MANY EFFORTS.

SO IT'S GOING TO BE A GREAT SESSION WITH THAT.

WE'RE MOVING TO ITEM FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. MADAM CLERK PUBLIC.

THANK YOU. GOING TO DISCUSSION ITEMS, MR. YOUNG.

[5.A. Discussion and Review of the Proposed FY 2025-26 Operating and Capital Budget. (Stefan Massol, Interim Finance Director) ]

I JUST KIND OF WANT TO SUMMARIZE THE BUDGET PLANNING THAT WE HAD, AND THEN SOME THINGS THAT ARE IN THE BUDGET AND SOME THINGS THAT ARE NOT.

SO FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF PREPARING THIS BUDGET.

ONE OF THE THINGS I DIDN'T WANT TO DO WAS ASK FOR A LOT OF POSITIONS OR ANY POSITIONS THAT, THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE FULLY BAKED OUT. SO WHAT YOU'LL SEE IN THIS BUDGET ARE TWO NEW POSITIONS FOR PUBLIC SAFETY, WHICH WERE THE SECOND HALF OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY ENHANCEMENTS THAT YOU ADOPTED LAST YEAR.

AND THAT'S THE ONLY TRUE INCREASES IN PERSONNEL IN THIS BUDGET.

SO THERE IS A SLIGHT CHANGE IN THE CITY MANAGER'S WHICH YOU KNEW ABOUT THAT OCCURRED SOMETIME THROUGH THE THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.

BUT THERE'S ALSO AN OFFSETTING REDUCTION IN THE PARKS AND COMMUNITY SERVICE PARKS AND PARKWAYS AND COMMUNITY SERVICE.

SO IT'S A NET INCREASE OF TWO TWO POLICE OFFICERS AS IT RELATES TO THE PUBLIC SAFETY ENHANCEMENTS.

THE OTHER COMPONENT OF THIS IS IN THE NEXT SIX MONTHS OR SO, I'M GOING TO BE COMING BACK TO YOU TO DISCUSS PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT AND FINISHING BREAKING OUT THAT DEPARTMENT. NOW, I DO BELIEVE THERE'LL BE SOME POSITION NEEDS, GIVEN THE NUMBER OF PROJECTS AND THE COMMITMENTS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE HAVING GOING FORWARD. BUT FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF INCLUDING IT IN THIS BUDGET, I WANTED IT TO BE A SEPARATE DISCUSSION ON PUBLIC WORKS AT THAT TIME.

SO I'M JUST FORESHADOWING YOU THAT INTO THE FUTURE.

BUT THERE THERE IS NO ADDITIONAL RESOURCES OTHER THAN TO MENTIONED THERE.

SO I DID WANT TO SAY THAT. AND THEN KIND OF FORESHADOWING THE FUTURE FOR US WHEN WE GET TO CERTAIN DEPARTMENTS, SPECIFICALLY PUBLIC WORKS, STORMWATER, WATER, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE SOME, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE ALREADY SEEN IT IN THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN. BUT STARTING TODAY, WE'LL START TO TALK ABOUT HOW WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO FUND THOSE THINGS.

WE'RE GOING TO COME BACK WITH A RESILIENCY DISCUSSION.

AND SO I WANT THAT TO BUILD UPON ITSELF OVER THE COURSE OF THE NEXT THREE MONTHS.

BUT IT WILL BE A CONTINUED DRUMBEAT. IT'S NOT ONLY WHAT ARE THESE PROJECTS WE NEED TO GET ACCOMPLISHED, BUT HOW ARE WE GOING TO PAY FOR THEM? SO I JUST WANT TO FORESHADOW THAT FOR YOU.

BUT OTHER THAN THAT, I THINK WE'LL GET TO THOSE ITEMS AS WE GO THROUGH IT WITH THE DEPARTMENTS.

AND AGAIN, I'M PROUD OF THE BUDGET THAT WE HAVE.

I'LL REMIND YOU THAT IT'S NOT INCREASING THE MILLAGE AT ANY IN ANY WAY.

IT'S KEEPING IT AS RECOMMENDED AT 1.23 AND FINALIZING THE SECOND YEAR OF THE ENHANCEMENTS THAT WERE ALREADY DISCUSSED.

SO WITH THAT, I WANT TO TURN IT OVER TO INTERIM FINANCE DIRECTOR STEVEN MISSAL, AND WE'LL GO FROM THERE.

SO THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL STEFAN MUSIL, INTERIM FINANCE DIRECTOR.

I WANT TO JUST START BY WELCOME EVERYBODY BACK FROM SUMMER RECESS, AND ALSO WANTED TO MAKE MENTION OF THE ITEMS THAT ARE INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET FOR THIS AGENDA ITEM. SO WE HAVE THE AGENDA MEMORANDUM SHEET, WHICH SUMMARIZES THE PROPOSED BUDGET.

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WE HAVE TRIM FORMS WHICH ARE BASED ON THE CERTIFIED VALUES PROVIDED FROM THE STATE OF FLORIDA'S FORMS. AND WE HAVE MILLAGE RATE SCENARIOS AND RELATED PROCEEDS.

FOR THAT HANDOUT, I JUST WANTED TO EMPHASIZE THAT THESE WERE PURELY FOR INFORMATIONAL PURPOSES.

AND BASICALLY THEY JUST COMPARE THE ROLLBACK RATE PROCEEDS ALL THE WAY UP TO A HYPOTHETICAL 1.29.

OF COURSE, THIS PROPOSED BUDGET IS FOR THE 1.233 RATE, WHICH IS THE SAME MILLAGE RATE THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE IN PLACE.

AND THE LAST THING IN YOUR PACKET IS A COPY OF THIS PRESENTATION THAT WE'RE ABOUT TO HAVE.

ALSO WANTED TO YOU KNOW, JUST GIVE AN OVERVIEW OF WHAT TO EXPECT ON THE PRESENTATION.

I'M GOING TO START BY GIVING A OVERVIEW OF THE CITY AS A WHOLE AND THE FINANCES REPRESENTED IN THIS BUDGET.

AND FROM THERE, WE'LL BE TURNING IT OVER TO EACH DEPARTMENT TO EXPLAIN THE SPECIFICS OF WHAT'S IN EACH DEPARTMENT'S BUDGET.

WITH THAT, WE'LL START IT OFF. ALL RIGHT. SO THIS IS, OF COURSE, THE PROPOSED BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR 20 2526.

KIND OF LOOKING BACK HERE, WE KIND OF BEGAN THIS PROCESS WITH CITY COUNCIL AT THE MAY 19TH CIP WORKSHOP.

SUBSEQUENT TO THAT, OF COURSE, ON AUGUST 18TH, WE'RE HAVING OUR BUDGET WORKSHOP TODAY.

AND LOOKING AHEAD, WE'LL HAVE SEPTEMBER 3RD AND SEPTEMBER 22ND AS OUR TWO BUDGET HEARINGS AS PART OF OUR TERM COMPLIANCE FOR ADOPTION.

AND THEN, OF COURSE, OCTOBER 1ST WILL BE THE START OF THE FISCAL YEAR 20 2526.

YOU'LL ALSO RECALL THAT ON JUNE 18TH, WE DID HAVE A MAXIMUM MILLAGE RATE PRESENTATION.

AND THAT IS WHERE THIS BODY SET THE 1.23 MAXIMUM MILLAGE RATE, WHICH IS GOING TO BE INCLUDED IN THE TRIM NOTICES THAT GO OUT TO RESIDENTS. THIS IS JUST AN ORGANIZATIONAL CHART THAT IS ALSO INCLUDED IN THE BUDGET.

FOR THIS SLIDE, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE MENTION THAT THERE WERE A FEW DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE CIP NUMBERS IN OUR PREVIOUS WORKSHOP THAT WAS APPROVED AND THIS PROPOSED BUDGET. IN PARTICULAR, I WANTED TO MAKE MENTION THAT IN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT YOU'LL SEE, THERE'S A LUCAS TWO CHEST COMPRESSION DEVICE AS WELL AS PERSONAL PROTECTIVE GEAR REPLACEMENT.

BOTH OF THOSE ITEMS WERE REALLY MORE OF A CAPITAL ITEM BASED ON THEIR USEFUL LIFE AND THEIR PURCHASE PRICE, AND IT WAS CONSIDERED MORE APPROPRIATE TO PUT THOSE INTO THE CIP, RATHER THAN LEAVING THEM IN AS AN OPERATING COST.

OTHER ITEMS WILL BE ALSO DISCUSSED, INCLUDING THE STORMWATER FUND.

STREET SWEEPER REPLACEMENT WHEN ITS PUBLIC WORKS PRESENTING.

ALL RIGHT. GROSS BUDGETED REVENUES IN THIS BUDGET ARE SET AT THE $203 MILLION MARK.

THAT'S AN INCREASE OF $16.32 MILLION FROM THE FISCAL YEAR 20 2425 ADOPTED BUDGET.

THERE IS NO NEW DEBT INCLUDED IN THIS PROPOSED BUDGET THAT HASN'T BEEN PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED AND APPROVED.

WE HAVE A $27 MILLION BEACH OUTFALL PROJECT SLATED FOR ACTUALLY EARLY FISCAL YEAR 20 2526.

WE WILL BE COMING BACK WITH A SPECIFIC AUTHORIZATION ITEM FOR YOU FOR THAT BASED ON TIMING OF GETTING EVERYTHING TOGETHER, THAT'S KIND OF WHEN WE'RE EXPECTING THAT ISSUANCE TO ACTUALLY MOVE FORWARD.

THAT IS THE ONLY ADDITIONAL DEBT FOR FISCAL YEAR 20 2526.

AND YOU MAY RECALL THAT DURING OUR CIP WORKSHOP, WE DISCUSSED ISSUANCE OF $29 MILLION RELATED TO THE FIRE STATION TWO, AND THAT WOULD BE TENTATIVELY SCHEDULED FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 2027 BASED ON THE CIP.

THIS SLIDE JUST KIND OF PROVIDES AN OVERVIEW AND BREAKDOWN OF ALL OF THE DIFFERENT REVENUE SOURCES AND THE PROPORTION THAT THEY REPRESENT IN THE TOTAL REVENUES FOR THE CITY IN THIS PROPOSED BUDGET.

AS YOU CAN SEE, JUST UNDER A THIRD WOULD BE CONSIDERED AD VALOREM AND OTHER TAXES.

AND IF YOU LOOK BELOW, YOU'LL SEE THAT IF YOU LOOK AT INTERGOVERNMENTAL REVENUE IN COMBINATION WITH YOUR CHARGES FOR SERVICE, THOSE MAKE UP THE MAJORITY. COLLECTIVELY, OF THE REVENUES IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET.

CHARGES FOR SERVICE IS HOW OUR UTILITY FUNDS ARE PAID FOR.

PREDOMINANTLY. SO YOU'LL SEE THAT THEY'RE INCLUDED IN THAT 40.4% PROPORTION OF OUR TOTAL TOTAL REVENUES AS A CITY.

ALL RIGHT. EXPENSES. THIS PROPOSED BUDGET INCLUDES BUDGETED EXPENSES OF 236.8 MILLION, WHICH WOULD BE AN INCREASE OF 28 MILLION FROM THE FISCAL

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AND THIS IS A KIND OF A BREAKDOWN OF WHERE EVERYTHING BREAKS OUT BETWEEN PERSONNEL OPERATING AND CAPITAL.

AS YOU CAN SEE, IT'S A ROUGHLY ONE THIRD SPLIT AMONG EACH.

JUST SIMILAR TO WHAT WE HAD IN THE PRIOR FISCAL YEAR 20 2425 BUDGET YEAR WE'RE CURRENTLY IN.

I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT A FEW ITEMS INCLUDED IN THIS PROPOSED BUDGET.

OF COURSE, WE'RE PROPOSING A CONTINUATION OF THE SAME 1.23 MILLAGE LEVY THAT IS CURRENTLY IN PLACE FROM THE FISCAL YEAR 2425 BUDGET, AND IT ALSO IN THERE AS A RESULT OF INCREASED PERSONNEL AND OPERATING COSTS.

THE EMERGENCY RESERVES ARE SLIGHTLY INCREASING, WHICH IS PART OF THE FUND BALANCE POLICY.

THIS BODY PREVIOUSLY APPROVED WATER SEWER RATE, SOLID WASTE RATE AND STORMWATER RATE INCREASES IN CONFORMANCE WITH CPI AT THE AMOUNT OF 2.2%. AND YOU KNOW, OUR SALARIES OVERALL WE'RE LOOKING AT AN INCREASE OF 11.9%.

THIS IS A CONTINUE. WELL, IT'S REALLY A IT'S A RESULT OF THE POLICE FIRE AND FEMA CONTRACTS, WHICH ARE NOW SETTLED AS OF EARLY 2025. THAT, OF COURSE, YOU'LL RECALL, IS A DEVELOPMENT THAT WAS NOT IN PLACE IN PREPARING THE FISCAL YEAR 20 2425 BUDGET.

SO THERE IS MORE CERTAINTY TO LOOK FORWARD TO WITH WHAT PERSONNEL COSTS WILL BE IN THE FUTURE.

AND THERE WAS NO CHANGE IN HEALTH INSURANCE COSTS, WHICH WAS A POSITIVE.

I WANTED TO MAKE MENTION THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE, YOU KNOW, SEAWALLS INCLUDED IN THIS BUDGET, WHICH WILL TOUCH ON A LITTLE MORE IN THE FOLLOWING SLIDES.

CAMBER PARK PLAYGROUND ENHANCEMENTS OR REPLACEMENT STORMWATER MULTI BASIN IMPROVEMENTS ARE A SUBSTANTIAL PART OF THE BUDGET AS WELL WHICH PUBLIC WORKS WILL DESCRIBE FURTHER. AND THE CITY DOCK FUEL TANK WAS DETERMINED TO REQUIRE REPLACEMENT THAT IS ALSO INCLUDED IN THIS BUDGET. AS WELL AS YOU KNOW, THERE ARE OF COURSE, CRA IMPROVEMENTS AND INFLATIONARY PRESSURE THAT INFLUENCE EXPENDITURES AND OTHER FUNDS AS WELL. ALL RIGHT. THIS THIS GRAPHIC IS ONE THAT YOU'LL FIND ON PAGE 17 WITHIN YOUR BUDGET BOOK. I THINK IT REALLY HITS HOME THE, THE REALITY THAT, OF COURSE, THE CITY'S PROPORTION OF THE PROPERTY TAX BILL, IT'S ONLY A VERY SMALL PIECE OF THE PUZZLE.

YOU'LL SEE THAT FOR EVERY DOLLAR, THE CITY OF NAPLES PROPERTY TAX MILLAGE LEVY WOULD BE $0.14 ON THAT DOLLAR.

YOU LOOK AT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, IT'S AT THE 48 CENT MARK.

COLLIER COUNTY, $0.36. AND THERE ARE SOME OTHER MINOR DISTRICTS THAT COMPRISE THE REMAINING $0.03.

AND THIS KIND OF PROVIDES AN OVERVIEW ALSO FOR A, YOU KNOW, HYPOTHETICAL TAXABLE VALUE OF $1.5 MILLION, WHAT THE PROPORTION OF THAT TAX BILL WOULD BE FOR EACH OF THOSE JURISDICTIONS.

BLESS YOU. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. NOW ON THIS SLIDE YOU MAY RECALL THIS ONE FROM WHEN WE DID OUR MAXIMUM VILLAGE LEVY PRESENTATION BEFORE.

KIND OF JUST TAKES A LOOK BACK AT THE PAST 20 YEARS ON WHAT OUR TAXABLE VALUE TRENDS HAVE LOOKED LIKE WITHIN THE CITY OF NAPLES.

OF COURSE, NOT TOO FAR OFF. IN THE RECENT PAST WE HAD A GREAT RECESSION AND FOUR CONSECUTIVE YEARS OF DETERIORATING TAXABLE VALUES. WE HAVE BEEN FORTUNATE AND BLESSED TO HAVE POSITIVE CHANGE IN TAXABLE VALUES SINCE THAT TIME.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT ON A 20 YEAR TIME HORIZON, WE'VE BEEN AVERAGING 5.87% EACH YEAR.

SO LOOKING AHEAD, WE CURRENTLY ARE LOOKING AT A 7.82% INCREASE FOR THIS 2025 FINAL TAXABLE VALUE LEVEL, WHICH YOU CAN SEE IS A TAPERING OFF FROM WHERE WE HAVE BEEN OVER THE LAST 3 OR 4 YEARS.

BUT STILL ABOVE WHAT THE 20 YEAR AVERAGE HAS BEEN.

ALL RIGHT. NOW THIS SLIDE KIND OF GETS OVER GETS A LITTLE FURTHER INTO THE THE MILLAGE RATES AND THE CALCULATIONS FOR EACH.

AND SO WE HAVE A 1.23 PROPOSED GENERAL FUND MILLAGE RATE.

EAST NAPLES BAY TAXING DISTRICT AT HALF A MILL AND MOORINGS.

BAY TAXING DISTRICT AT 0.0125 MILLS. AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT IN TERMS OF THE ROLL ROLLBACK RATE, THAT COMES OUT TO 1.1658, ROLLBACK RATE IS IN ESSENCE OF REPRESENTATION OF WHAT MILLAGE RATE WOULD PRODUCE THE SAME AMOUNT

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THERE'S OTHER MILLAGE RATES, AGGREGATE MILLAGE RATE, WHICH ALSO TAKES INTO ACCOUNT OUR EAST NAPLES BAY TAXING DISTRICT RATE AS WELL AS MOORINGS BAY TAXING DISTRICT. IT COMPARES THOSE THE THE TAXABLE OR THE TAX PROCEEDS INCLUDED IN THE LEVY TO WHAT THE PRIOR YEAR HELD. AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE PROPOSED RATE OF 1.23 AS A PERCENT CHANGE OF THE ROLLBACK RATE, IT'S A DIFFERENCE OF 5.42%. OKAY. OH, AND I ALSO JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT THIS CHART JUST KIND OF SHOWS THE HISTORY OF MILLAGE RATES.

AS YOU'LL RECALL, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE BEEN HISTORICALLY UP UNTIL FISCAL YEAR 20, 24, 25, WE WERE AT A 1.15 TO 1.18 AND THEN 1.17. OF COURSE, THEN THE INCREASE WAS MADE TO 1.23 FOR THIS PUBLIC SAFETY ENHANCEMENTS.

WHICH IS THE CONTINUATION INTO THIS YEAR. ALL RIGHT.

GENERAL FUND REVENUE ANALYSIS BY SOURCE. YOU'LL ALSO FIND THIS INFORMATION ON PAGE 22 OF THE BUDGET DOCUMENT.

SO THIS IT JUST KIND OF SHOWS YOU A, A BREAKDOWN WITHIN THE GENERAL FUND HOW MUCH FALLS INTO DIFFERENT CATEGORIES OF REVENUE.

AS YOU CAN SEE, IT IS PRETTY, YOU KNOW, PRETTY DEPENDENT ON AD VALOREM AND OTHER TAXES AS THE REVENUE SOURCES.

AND KEEP IN MIND, THIS IS WHERE WE'RE PAYING FOR OUR POLICE AND FIRE SERVICES, WHICH IS YOU KNOW, NORMALLY THE WAY THAT THOSE SERVICES WOULD BE FUNDED.

AND SO THAT'S KIND OF AN OVERVIEW OF HOW THAT ALL BREAKS OUT FOR THE GENERAL FUND.

I WANTED TO ALSO MENTION THIS AS GARY MENTIONED EARLIER, WE'RE YOU KNOW, NOT PROPOSING HARDLY ANY CHANGES IN PERSONNEL, REALLY. NOTHING. IN ADDITION TO THE TWO POSITIONS THAT WERE CONTEMPLATED AS PART OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY ENHANCEMENTS BEING PUT INTO THE FOLLOWING YEAR, WHICH IS THIS, 2526 TO TO COMPLETE THAT PROCESS OF IMPLEMENTATION.

SO THE NET CHANGE OF TWO POSITIONS IS SUMMARIZED HERE ON THIS TABLE.

AND THIS CAN BE FOUND ALSO IN THE IN THE BUDGET DOCUMENT.

OKAY. THIS SLIDE. THIS IS I THINK, ONE OF MY FAVORITE SLIDES.

IT'S A SLIDE THAT SHOWS SOMETHING THAT THIS CITY HAS DONE A VERY GOOD JOB AT OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS IN PARTICULAR, BUT MAKING SURE THAT OUR THREE PENSION PLANS ARE FUNDED PROPERLY AND CONSERVATIVELY TO ENSURE THAT THERE ARE SOME ADEQUATE FUNDS IN PLACE FOR FUTURE BENEFICIARIES.

SO, YOU KNOW, EVERY YEAR WE GET AN ACTUARIAL VALUATION FROM THE THE PLAN ACTUARY.

AND IN THE MOST RECENT ACTUARIAL EVALUATIONS FOR POLICE THEY CONSIDERED THE PLANS TO BE THE PLAN TO BE 84.1% FUNDED.

FIRE WAS 89.6%. GENERAL FUND 85.6%. IT'S WIDELY UNDERSTOOD THAT ANYTHING OVER 80% IS CONSIDERED A HEALTHY PENSION PLAN. SO, YOU KNOW, ON THAT CONTINUUM, THE CITY OF NAPLES IS HAS THREE HEALTHY, WELL-FUNDED PENSION PLANS.

AND WITH THAT, YOU KNOW, EACH YEAR WE LOOK AT WHAT THOSE ACTUARIAL VALUATION RATES ARE, WHAT THE ANNUAL REQUIRED CONTRIBUTION WOULD BE BASED ON THOSE ACTUARIAL VALUATION REPORTS, AND MAKE A DETERMINATION ON FUNDING TO ENSURE THAT THEY'RE THAT WHAT WE'RE SETTING ASIDE IN THE YEAR CONTINUES TO BE A PRUDENT AND, YOU KNOW, FIDUCIARY SOUND DECISION FOR THOSE THREE PLANS.

AND SO LAST YEAR, THE POLICE RATE WAS 46% FOR THE BUDGET.

THE FIRE RATE WAS 48% AND THE GENERAL RATE WAS 13%.

THE PERCENT OF WAGES THAT WAS BEING CONTRIBUTED INTO THE PENSION PLAN.

AND SO, AS YOU CAN SEE IN THIS PROPOSED, ALTHOUGH GENERAL IS SLIGHTLY HIGHER, WE'VE SEEN NOTABLE DECREASES DOWN TO THE 40% CONTRIBUTION RATES.

AND THAT'S A REFLECTION OF THE IMPROVEMENT IN WHAT THOSE ACTUAL VALUATIONS HAVE COME OUT AT.

BASED ON PAST PRACTICES OF SETTING ASIDE IN THIS MOST RECENT VALUATION REPORT, 29.3% IS THE EQUIVALENT RATE THAT THE CITIES FOR THE CITY'S POLICE POLICE PENSION PLAN WOULD BE SETTING ASIDE.

FIRE WOULD BE 19.4%, GENERAL WOULD BE 11.4%. AND WHAT THAT ALL RESULTS IN IS ADDITIONAL PAYMENTS EQUIVALENT TO THE PERCENT DIFFERENCE ON THE FAR RIGHT COLUMN OF THIS SLIDE. IN TOTALITY, IT'S AN ESTIMATED ADDITIONAL CONTRIBUTION OF $2.46 MILLION ACROSS ALL FUNDS.

AND IF I COULD EXPAND ON THAT A LITTLE BIT. SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT REMEMBER, WE'VE KEPT THE 46 AND 48% SINCE 2019.

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SO IN 2019 WE TOOK THE TEN YEAR AVERAGE AND WE MADE THEM THE HIGHEST BASIS POINT, ABOVE THE HIGHEST YEAR TO TO EAT UP SOME OF THAT UNFUNDED OBLIGATION.

SO THE REASON IT'S 40 NOW, 40 AND 15, AND THAT HE HAD MENTIONED 46, 48 AND 13 WAS WE NEGOTIATED NEW CONTRACTS.

AND THIS IS THIS ACTUARIAL YOU'RE SEEING HERE IS THE PERCENTAGE RATE OF AS RECOMMENDED AS OF 930.

WE SETTLED THAT THOSE CONTRACTS IN FEBRUARY, MARCH, WHATEVER YEAR, THE MONTH THAT WAS, EVERYTHING'S RUN TOGETHER.

BUT WE JUST RECENTLY SETTLEMENT INCLUDED ADDITIONAL CONTRIBUTIONS BY THE UNION MEMBERS AS WELL AS THE CITY.

RIGHT. SO WHEN WE DID THAT, THE ACTUARIAL WENT BACK AND DID A HISTORICAL ANALYSIS AND SAID ON THAT ANALYSIS, THE HIGHEST YEAR THAT IT WOULD EXPECT TO BE IS AROUND 38 AND CHANGE, MEANING 38%.

SO WE ROUNDED IT STILL UP TO THE HIGHEST 40%, BECAUSE WE KNEW THE FUNDED RATIO WILL GO DOWN SLIGHTLY BECAUSE OF THE PLAN CHANGES, BUT WE'RE STILL GOING TO BE WELL ABOVE IT. SO LEAVING IT AT 40, WHICH WAS A BASIS POINT AND A HALF ABOVE THE HIGHEST ACTUARIAL, PUTS US IN A GOOD POSITION TO MAKE SURE WE'RE CONTINUING TO EAT UP THAT, THAT FUNDED RATIO.

NOW, OVER TIME, WE'LL SEE IF THEIR ORIGINAL PROJECTIONS ON THOSE CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS ARE RIGHT.

BUT AT LEAST WE'RE WE'RE BEING CONSERVATIVE AND CONTINUING TO PUT EXTRA MONEY TO IT.

SO THAT'S THE APPROACH. THAT'S THE LOGIC BEHIND IT.

SO WHILE IT LOOKS LIKE IT CAME DOWN AGAIN 2.46 MORE MILLION MORE THAN IS REQUIRED IS STILL A HEFTY CONTRIBUTION TO MAKE SURE WE'RE TACKLING THAT UNFUNDED PORTION. SO I JUST WANT TO KIND OF LET THAT GO FULL CIRCLE FOR YOU, BECAUSE IN ADDITION TO HISTORY, WE NOW HAVE A NEW HISTORY BECAUSE OF WHAT WE NEGOTIATED.

SO WE GOT TO SEE HOW THAT SHAKES OUT. BUT WE ARE BEING CONSERVATIVE IN THAT APPROACH.

SO, MR. YOUNG, THIS IS A GREAT POINT OF RECOGNITION FOR YOU.

IT WAS MY PERSONAL GOAL TO GET THE UNFUNDED LIABILITIES DOWN AND THIS COUNCIL ALSO.

SO I WANT TO THANK YOU. ON BEHALF OF COUNCIL FOR ACCOMPLISHING OUR GOALS ON THAT.

SO THANK YOU SIR. YEAH IT'S BEEN A IT'S BEEN A GROUP EFFORT BY THE BY COUNCIL KEEPING THAT COMMITMENT TO.

CONTINUE TO PUT EXTRA IN IT. AND SO IT'S BEEN A BLESSING FOR THE YOU KNOW.

THE EMPLOYEES AND I THINK FOR FOR. FOR EVERYONE WHEN IT'S A GOOD FUNDED HEALTHY FUNDED PLAN.

SO THANK YOU MAYOR. YOU ACHIEVE SUCCESS ON THAT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU STEPH. ALL RIGHT. SO ON THIS SLIDE AND YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THIS INFORMATION ALSO ON PAGE 282 WITHIN THE BUDGET BOOK. WANTED TO SHOW THE DIFFERENCE IN THIS PROPOSED BUDGET AS FAR AS AN ALLOCATION OF EQUIPMENT, SERVICES, EXPENSES TO EACH FUND. AS YOU ALL KNOW, WE HAVE A FEW INTERNAL SERVICE FUNDS EQUIPMENT SERVICES BEING ONE OF THE LARGER ONES. AND IN TERMS OF OPERATIONS.

AND SO HERE THOSE COSTS ARE WERE ALLOCATED BACK TO EACH FUND AT HEIGHTENED LEVELS RELATED TO THE FUEL ISLAND REPLACEMENT COST. AND SO AS WE ARE EXPECTING THOSE EXPENSES TO BE FULLY COVERED BY THE AMOUNT SHOWN IN THE 2025 REVISED BUDGET COLUMN, WE'RE PROPOSING TO RETURN BACK TO A MORE STABLE LEVEL, WHICH, AS YOU CAN SEE ON THIS SLIDE, WHICH SHOWS KIND OF A HISTORICAL ALLOCATION FROM FISCAL YEAR 2223 BUDGET IN FISCAL YEAR 2324 BUDGET. GOING BACK TO THAT 3 MILLION, ROUGHLY LEVEL FOR FUNDING THOSE OPERATIONS IN THE EQUIPMENT SERVICES FUND.

OKAY, NOW, ON THIS SLIDE THIS IS JUST KIND OF AN OVERVIEW OF THE MAJOR FINANCIAL FACTORS WITHIN THE GENERAL FUND.

IT CERTAINLY ISN'T A COMPLETELY EXHAUSTIVE OR DETAILED LIST, BUT KIND OF GIVES A HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW OF WHAT THOSE COMPARISONS ARE BETWEEN THE FISCAL YEAR 2425 ADOPTED BUDGET AND THE FISCAL YEAR 2526 PROPOSED.

SO WE HAVE NEW NEW REVENUES RESULTING FOR PROPERTY VALUE AT ROUGHLY $3.1 MILLION.

THERE IS AN INCREASE TO PERSONNEL SERVICES OF $6.2 MILLION.

THERE ARE SOME MINOR OPERATING COST INCREASES OF $228,000.

THERE WAS A DECREASE TO RISK MANAGEMENT COSTS.

FORTUNATELY THERE WAS AN INCREASE TO TECHNOLOGY SERVICES.

AND ROUGHLY A HALF $1 MILLION A DECREASE TO EQUIPMENT SERVICES COST, WHICH WE TOUCHED ON EARLIER BETWEEN LAST YEAR'S ADOPTED THIS YEAR, IT'S A DIFFERENCE OF $400,000 TO GENERAL FUND.

VEHICLE COST WAS A DECREASE OF $571,000. AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE SEAWALLS PREVIOUSLY.

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THIS IS A CAPITAL PROJECT THAT WILL NOT ONLY EXIST WITHIN THE 2526, BUT ALSO IS EXPECTED IN 2627 FOR AN ADDITIONAL $3.2 MILLION IN THAT YEAR AS WELL. AND IF YOU JUST LOOK AT THE IMPACT OF ALL THOSE ITEMS TO THIS POINT, IT WOULD BE A HIT TO THE GENERAL FUND RESERVES OF $6.4 MILLION.

BUT THANKFULLY, THIS CITY DID RECEIVE A STATE APPROPRIATION OF $3.75 MILLION, WHICH IS A DEVELOPMENT SINCE THE TIME THAT WE HAD THAT MAXIMUM MILLAGE LEVY CONVERSATION AND THE RESERVE PROJECTIONS THAT CAME WITH THAT.

SO, YOU KNOW, WITH WITH THAT FACTORED IN FOR FISCAL YEAR 25, 26, WE'RE LOOKING AT A $2.69 MILLION REDUCTION IN FUND BALANCE. AND, OF COURSE, THAT REDUCTION WAS PLANNED OVER SEVERAL YEARS LEADING UP TO THIS.

IN ANTICIPATION OF THE IRMA SETTLEMENT FOR THE SEAWALL RECONSTRUCTION THAT WAS GOING TO BE NEEDED.

OKAY. OH, GOSH. HOLD ON. SORRY.

GIVE ME A MINUTE.

OKAY. AS YOU CAN SEE, WE HAVE A VERY LONG PRESENTATION TO LOOK FORWARD TO.

SORRY ABOUT THAT. OKAY. THIS WAS THE SLIDE.

THERE WE GO. SORRY ABOUT THAT. ALL RIGHT. SO THIS SLIDE KIND OF SHOWS THE FUND BALANCE TREND. HISTORY.

AND SO, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, THERE WAS A SAVING OF FUND BALANCE IN ANTICIPATION OF THESE IRMA SETTLEMENT COSTS.

AND YOU KNOW, THAT BLUE LINE REFLECTS WHAT THE ACTUAL RESERVES WERE IN THE GENERAL FUND WHICH EXCEEDED THE MAXIMUM UNASSIGNED FUND BALANCE FOR GENERAL FUND. BUT KEEP IN MIND THAT MAXIMUM INCLUDED IN THE FUND BALANCE POLICY DOES ALSO CONTEMPLATE THAT THE CITY MAY NEED TO SAVE ADDITIONAL AMOUNTS BEYOND WHAT THE MAXIMUM IS FOR KNOWN FUTURE COSTS, WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED IN THIS CASE WITH THE IRMA SEAWALL SETTLEMENT.

WE'RE PROJECTING BY THE END OF 25, 26 TO BE, YOU KNOW, RIGHT NEAR THAT MAXIMUM LEVEL.

AND THEN KEEP IN MIND THAT FOLLOWING YEAR THERE WILL BE AN ADDITIONAL REDUCTION FOR THE REMAINING SEAWALL EXPENSES.

AND SO WE FEEL LIKE WE'RE IN A GOOD POSITION IN TERMS OF FUND BALANCE, KIND OF RETURNING THE PLAN KIND OF WENT TO SCRIPT AS IT WAS, YOU KNOW, ANTICIPATED. NOW, WE WERE VERY FORTUNATE, OF COURSE, TO RECEIVE THAT 3.75 MILLION AMOUNT ON STATE APPROPRIATION BECAUSE THE FULL COST OF THOSE SEAWALLS WAS SUBMITTED TO THE STATE.

WE DON'T ANTICIPATE GETTING ANY ADDITIONAL HELP WITH THE COSTS IN 26, 27.

AND SO JUST KIND OF WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT WAS UNDERSTOOD, THAT WE WERE VERY FORTUNATE THIS YEAR, THOUGH. ALL RIGHT.

GENERAL FUND BUDGET. WITH THE EXPENSE AT THE 1.23 MIL LEVEL.

SO HERE YOU CAN SEE KIND OF A BREAKDOWN BETWEEN KIND OF THREE MAIN CATEGORIES OF WHAT WE CONSIDER TO BE THE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THE PRIMARY PURPOSE OF THE GENERAL FUND.

SO YOU SEE THAT THERE'S A POLICE COST OF ROUGHLY 31% INCLUDED OF THE TOTAL BUDGET IN GENERAL FUND FIRES AT 27%. PARKS AND REC AND FACILITIES MAKE UP 20% OF THOSE COSTS.

AND WE LIKE TO CALL THAT KIND OF THE SAFETY AND QUALITY OF LIFE OF THE GENERAL FUND.

WHAT IT DOES FOR IT'S FOR THE CITIZENS OF THE CITY OF NAPLES.

AND YOU COULD ALMOST JUST AS EASILY CONSIDER PLANNING, WHICH ISN'T IN THAT TOP CATEGORY, PART OF ALSO THAT SAFETY AND QUALITY OF LIFE.

IF YOU TAKE THAT PLANNING AMOUNT AND ADD IT TO THE 78% ALREADY SHOWN, ROUGHLY 80% OF THE COSTS ARE REALLY DIRECTLY RELATED TO THE SAFETY AND QUALITY OF LIFE ENJOYED BY THE CITIZENS. THERE ARE 3% OF THE COSTS REPRESENTED AS A SELF-INSURANCE CHARGEBACK.

AND THAT'S AGAIN ANOTHER INTERNAL SERVICE FUND FUNCTION TECH SERVICES, ANOTHER INTERNAL SERVICE FUND.

CHARGEBACK OF $3.15 MILLION. AND THEN IF YOU LOOK AT ALL OTHER REMAINING COSTS, THOSE MAKE UP ABOUT 12% OF THE GENERAL FUND BUDGET. OKAY. I WOULD LIKE TO JUST SAY ONE THING HERE.

WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT IT, THERE'S TWO SLIDES THAT ARE PROBABLY THE MOST IMPORTANT FROM A TALKING POINT PERSPECTIVE.

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AND THE NEXT ONE HERE SAYS BETWEEN 80 AND 85% WE SPEND ON PUBLIC SAFETY AND QUALITY OF LIFE.

THAT IS THE GOVERNMENTAL THE PREPONDERANCE OF THE GOVERNMENTAL FUNCTION.

AND YOU'RE PUTTING THE MONEY EXACTLY WHERE IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE. SO I THINK THOSE ARE THE TWO SLIDES THAT REALLY TELL THE STORY IN A VERY ABBREVIATED WAY.

SO, YEAH, AND AS WE MENTIONED EARLIER, THE FISCAL YEAR 2425 MILLAGE RATE INCREASE TO 1.23 FROM 1.17 WAS DRIVEN BY PUBLIC SAFETY ENHANCEMENTS. I ALSO JUST WANT TO MAKE MENTION OF, YOU KNOW, WE ALL KNOW THAT RESILIENCY IS A PRIMARY CONCERN AND CONSIDERATION WITHIN THE CITY. IT'S REFLECTED IN THIS PROPOSED BUDGET AS WELL AS, YOU KNOW, IN THE CIP AND OTHER FUTURE PLANS RELATED TO MULTI BASIN IMPROVEMENTS.

AND YOU KNOW, AS SUCH, YOU KNOW, IT'S GOING TO REMAIN A KEY FINANCIAL TOPIC FOR THE CITY AS A WHOLE FOR, YOU KNOW, MANY YEARS, DECADES TO COME. MOST LIKELY.

OF COURSE, THE, YOU KNOW, THE REVENUE THAT IS NEEDED IN ORDER TO MEET THOSE NEEDS AND DEMANDS.

YOU KNOW, IT'S A COMBINATION OF DEBT ISSUANCE.

BUT THEN, OF COURSE, THERE NEEDS TO BE REVENUE TO YOU KNOW, PAY FOR THOSE DEBT PAYMENTS AND THEN YOU HAVE STORMWATER UTILITY RATES.

THERE WAS AN INCREASE TO THOSE RATES RECENTLY IN ANTICIPATION OF THE BEACH STORMWATER OUTFALL PROJECT THAT WE'RE OF COURSE, LOOKING FORWARD TO YOU KNOW, EXECUTING VERY SOON.

AND IT'S JUST IT'S A TOPIC THAT WE'LL HAVE TO CONTINUE TO WRESTLE WITH AND PLAN FOR IN THE YEARS AHEAD.

I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THAT COMMENT, MR. YOUNG. AND, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHERE THE GENERAL FUND MONEY GOES.

BUT, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT ALSO BEARS SAYING THAT THIS HASN'T HAPPENED JUST BY ACCIDENT.

IT'S HAPPENED BECAUSE OF THE EFFORTS BY COUNCIL AND MANAGEMENT OVER MANY YEARS TO MANAGE THE CITY IN A VERY FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE WAY. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THE IF YOU TAKE THE 200 PLUS CITIES IN FLORIDA THAT HAVE A POPULATION OF 5000 OR MORE, THAT'S HOW MANY THERE ARE A LITTLE OVER 200.

WE HAVE THE FOURTH LOWEST MILLAGE RATE IN THE STATE, FOURTH LOWEST.

AND YOU KNOW, AND YET WE ARE ABLE TO USE OUR GENERAL FUND IN THE WAY YOU'VE DESCRIBED.

THERE'S A LOT OF CITIES THAT DON'T HAVE THAT LUXURY BECAUSE OF ACTIONS THEY'VE TAKEN IN THE PAST THAT WERE PERHAPS NOT THE BEST.

AND SO THE GENERAL FUND MONEY HAS TO GO INTO OTHER PURPOSES, WHEREAS WE HAVE WELL MANAGED ENTERPRISE FUNDS, LITTLE DEBT AND ARE ABLE TO DO WHAT WE CAN DO.

SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THOSE COMMENTS BECAUSE I THINK IT IT PRESENTS A BROADER PICTURE OF, YOU KNOW, HOW WE GOT HERE AND WHY WE GOT HERE, AND THE KIND OF REALLY GOOD FISCAL SHAPE THIS CITY IS IN, EVEN AFTER A, YOU KNOW, FIVE YEARS OF COVID AND FIVE HURRICANES.

I AGREE WHOLEHEARTEDLY, SIR. YES, SIR. AND THIS IS THIS SLIDE HERE THAT WE'RE ON IS A HANDOUT THAT WAS PROVIDED TO YOU ALL AS WELL TO KIND OF SHOW SOME DIFFERENT MILLAGE RATE SCENARIOS.

THE ONLY THING I'LL MAKE, MAKE MENTION OF THIS TO YOU ALL IS THAT FOR EVERY .02 MILLS IT'S IT'S EQUIVALENT TO A $20 DIFFERENCE ON AN ANNUAL PROPERTY TAX BILL.

AND, YOU KNOW, SO FOR 4.01 MILL IT WOULD BE ROUGHLY $368,000 OF ADDITIONAL REVENUE, OR $736,000 FOR EVERY .02 MILLS. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THIS KIND OF GETS BACK AT WHAT WE WERE DISCUSSING EARLIER WITH MILLAGE RATE.

SO THIS SLIDE PROVIDES THREE DIFFERENT TAXABLE VALUES AND THE, THE VARIOUS PROPERTY TAX COSTS FOR SOMEONE AT THE 1.23 MIL LEVEL. AND COMPARING THAT TO THE ROLLBACK RATE OF 1.1658, IT WOULD BE ABOUT $64 LESS. AND IN A HYPOTHETICAL 1.29 MILLAGE RATE, IT WOULD BE A DIFFERENCE OF LET'S SAY $60 TO THE POSITIVE FOR THAT HOME AT THE $1 MILLION TAXABLE VALUE.

SO THIS IS JUST REALLY FOR ILLUSTRATION PURPOSES.

AND THE ROLLBACK, I JUST WANT TO MAKE MENTION THAT THE ROLLBACK RATE DID CHANGE SLIGHTLY FROM WHEN WE PREVIOUSLY HAD THIS MAXIMUM MILLAGE PRESENTATION IN JUNE.

AND THAT WAS BECAUSE ONCE THOSE FINAL VALUES FOR JULY 1ST COME OUT IT AFFECTS THAT CALCULATION.

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ALL RIGHT. AND THIS IS JUST KIND OF AN OVERVIEW OF OF WHAT'S COMING UP HERE.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE EACH DEPARTMENT PRESENT IN THE SAME ORDER THEY PRESENTED LAST YEAR.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE IN MY PRESENTATION. THANK YOU ALL FOR THE GREAT OVERVIEW ON THE BUDGET.

I APPRECIATE YOUR EFFORTS. OF COURSE. GOOD MORNING.

GOOD MORNING. IS EVERYBODY DOING GOOD TODAY? FANTASTIC.

WE'RE BACK IN SESSION. THE GOOD STUFF. GOOD MORNING.

GOOD MORNING. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. BEN COPELAND, PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT.

WE WILL BE PRESENTING THE PUBLIC WORKS OPERATING BUDGETS FOR THE UPCOMING YEAR.

JUST TO GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF INFORMATION ON THIS NOWHERE IN THE BUDGET DOES IT ACTUALLY PUBLISH WHAT PUBLIC WORKS REPRESENTS.

FROM A BUDGET STANDPOINT WE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR FIVE FUNDS WITHIN THE CITY.

AND NEXT YEAR'S REQUEST, AS IT'S CURRENTLY DRAFTED, IS $88 MILLION.

AND I SAY CURRENTLY DRAFTED BECAUSE WE ARE PROPOSING A POTENTIAL CHANGE IN THE CAPITAL BUDGET WITHIN THE STORMWATER FUND, WHICH WE'LL GET TO WHEN WE GET INTO STORMWATER.

IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THE CURRENT YEAR, WE'RE ROUGHLY 77 MILLION.

SO THIS IS AN INCREASE OF ABOUT $11 MILLION. I CAN TELL YOU THAT IT'S PRIMARILY DRIVEN BY CAPITAL.

THE CAPITAL BUDGETS. THESE ARE VERY STATUS QUO BUDGETS IN THE SENSE THAT WE HAVE DEVELOPED THESE BUDGETS, THE OPERATING SIDE OF THINGS, TO MAINTAIN THE EXISTING LEVELS OF SERVICE THAT YOU'RE CURRENTLY EXPERIENCING IN THE CURRENT YEAR.

IT IS ALSO IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT WHEN YOU ACCOUNT FOR ALL OF THE EXPENDITURES AND REVENUES WITHIN EACH OF THESE FUNDS, THEY ARE MEETING FUND BALANCE REQUIREMENTS. AND IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT AS WELL, THAT EVEN THOUGH EVERYTHING IS SHAKING OUT TO MEET FUND BALANCE REQUIREMENTS, WE ARE GOING TO BE ENGAGING IN SOME RATE STUDIES OR UPDATES TO THE RATE STUDIES IN THE WATER SEWER FUND AND THE STORMWATER FUND FOR NEXT YEAR.

DUE TO THE FACT THAT WE HAVE LARGE CAPITAL PROJECTS ON THE HORIZON WITHIN THE NEXT 2 TO 5 YEARS.

AND MR. COPELAND, CAN YOU PLEASE END THE BUDGET DOCUMENT WHERE YOU'RE STARTING YOUR PRESENTATION? I KNOW WE'RE ON A POWERPOINT. YEP. I WILL THAT THAT SLIDE THERE IS NOT SHOWN ANYWHERE IN YOUR BUDGET DOCUMENT.

I WILL BE STARTING ON STREETS, WHICH IS PAGE 165.

SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE STREETS FUND ON PAGE 165, TOTAL DEPARTMENT EXPENSES IS JUST SHY OF $6 MILLION.

THAT'S A $1.1 MILLION INCREASE IN COMPARISON TO THE CURRENT YEAR.

BUT AS YOU MAY RECALL, THERE ARE TWO POP UP. I'M CALLING THEM POP UP PROJECTS WITHIN THE STREETS FUND, WHICH IS THE INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS ON GORDON DRIVE AND BROAD FOR THE FOR THE IMPROVEMENTS FOR A SIGNALIZED INTERSECTION ASSOCIATED WITH THE OLD NAPLES HOTEL. KEEP IN MIND THAT BUDGET DOES REPRESENT A COST SHARE FOR THAT DEVELOPER TO THE TUNE OF ABOUT $575,000.

AND THEN THE OTHER PROJECT THAT REPRESENTS ALMOST 1.5 MILLION IS THE ALLEYWAY IMPROVEMENT PROJECT, WHICH EXTENDS FROM GULF SHORE BOULEVARD TO THIRD STREET JUST NORTH OF CENTRAL AVENUE.

PROJECTED REVENUE IN THE STREETS FUND IS JUST IS RIGHT OVER $4.9 MILLION.

NEXT YEAR, IT'S A $237,000 INCREASE. AGAIN, THE BUDGET DOES INCLUDE 1.6 MILLION IN CAPITAL FUNDING, 1.5. BEING THOSE TWO PROJECTS I JUST DESCRIBED.

THE BUDGET DOES ACCOUNT FOR $1 MILLION WORTH OF RESURFACING ACTIVITIES.

I WILL TELL YOU, THE CURRENT YEAR IS BUDGETED AT 1.5 MILLION.

THIS IS A HALF $1 MILLION DECREASE, BUT YOU WILL SEE THE PAVEMENT MANAGEMENT PROGRAM COME BACK TO YOU IN SEPTEMBER, WHICH WILL DELINEATE THE BUDGETED FUNDS AND WHAT'S ON THE HORIZON FOR THAT PROGRAM.

FDOT FUNDED PROJECTS IS OUR BUDGETED RIGHT OVER $1 MILLION FOR NEXT YEAR.

KEEP IN MIND, THERE ARE $673,000 ASSOCIATED WITH THE 26 AVENUE NORTH SIDEWALKS THAT'S ASSOCIATED WITH THOSE FUNDS.

AND THEN THERE ARE 8.75 POSITIONS BUDGETED IN THE STREETS FUND, WHICH DOES DOES ACCOUNT FOR NO CHANGES AT THIS TIME.

TOTAL OPERATING EXPENSES. THIS IS ON PAGE 171 OF YOUR BUDGET DOCUMENT.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE THE DETAILS OF THE OPERATING BUDGET.

THE OPERATING EXPENSES, WHICH IS SHOWN IN THAT MIDDLE SECTION OF THAT PAGE.

TOTAL $3.1 MILLION. WHEN YOU COMPARE IT TO THE CURRENT YEAR, THAT'S ABOUT A $456,000 DECREASE.

AGAIN, THE RESURFACING IS ACCOUNTED FOR WITHIN THE OPERATING EXPENSES, AND THAT WAS DECLINING BY ABOUT A HALF $1 MILLION.

PERSONNEL SERVICES ARE INCREASING BY ABOUT $118,000.

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ELECTRICITY. THE ELECTRICITY THAT IS BUDGETED FOR THE STREET LIGHTS AND TRAFFIC SIGNALS IS SUBJECT TO A 15.43% INCREASE BY FPL.

THAT ACCOUNTS FOR ABOUT A $52,000 INCREASE BASED ON CURRENT RUN RATES.

ROAD REPAIRS IS INCREASING BY $100,000. THAT'S GOING FROM 400 TO $500,000, AND THAT'S ASSOCIATED WITH MORE OF CONCRETE AND RIGHT OF WAY TIE INS, MORE SO THAN ASPHALT FOR NEXT YEAR. AND THEN FINALLY, TECK SERVICES IS INCREASING JUST OVER $20,000.

SO WHEN YOU ACCOUNT FOR THE NOTABLE INCREASES THAT I JUST MENTIONED, AND YOU LOOK AT THE ENTIRE FUND FROM FROM A BIG PICTURE.

THE TOTAL FUND IS INCREASING, AS PREVIOUSLY STATED, BY $1.1 MILLION, OR ABOUT 23.5% IN COMPARISON TO THE CURRENT YEAR.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR THE STREETS FUND. I CAN GO ON.

I HAVE ABOUT TWO SLIDES PER FUND, OR I CAN STOP AFTER EACH FUND IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS.

COUNCIL. COUNCIL MEMBER. PETRA. KNOPF. JUST A QUICK QUESTION.

HOW MANY ROAD MILES, PLEASE? HOW MANY ROAD MILES DOES THAT INCLUDE? FOR THIS YEAR. NEXT YEAR FOR IN THE BUDGET FOR NEXT YEAR? I DON'T KNOW. IT'S IT'S DICTATED BY WHAT IS IN THE PAVEMENT MANAGEMENT PLAN AS FAR AS FAR AS THE PRIORITIZATION OF THE STREETS.

SO WE'D HAVE TO GO LOOK AT THE PAVEMENT MANAGEMENT PLAN WE'VE BEEN SAYING WE'RE GOING TO BRING BACK TO YOU IN SEPTEMBER.

THAT INCLUDES THAT FINAL LIST. AND WE'VE GOT STREETS IN NEXT YEARS, IN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.

ANNUAL PROJECTS ARE STREETS TO BE REPAVED. WE DON'T HAVE IT BROKEN DOWN INTO LANE MILES.

IT'S JUST WHAT WOULD FIT INTO A $1 MILLION BUDGET BASED ON THE PRIORITIZATION OF THE STREETS BASED ON THEIR CONDITION.

OKAY. AND THEN THE CONDITION THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS A FIRM THAT WAS HIRED TO THAT DID THE PAVEMENT ANALYSIS AND AND IT SEEMED TO DO IT ON, ON ROADS, YOU KNOW, INDIVIDUAL ROADS. DID IT SAMPLE? BECAUSE AS YOU GET TO THE BEACH, THE ROADS SEEM TO DETERIORATE ON SOME OF THOSE EAST WEST ROADS.

DID IT DO MULTIPLE SAMPLES ALONG THE ROAD OR DID IT DO ONE SAMPLE? THERE WERE 139 CORE CORE SAMPLES COLLECTED THROUGHOUT ALL THE STREETS IN THE CITY, AND THAT WAS THE LOCATION OF EACH ONE OF THOSE WAS FROM OBSERVATIONS FROM JOHNSON ENGINEERING AS THEY DROVE THE CITY LOOKING AT THE ROADS.

SO BASED ON WHATEVER DEFECTS THEY SAW ON THE ROAD, IS WHERE THEY TOOK CORE SAMPLES TO DETERMINE WHAT THE ROADBED LOOKED LIKE UNDERNEATH THE ASPHALT. OKAY. SO IT WOULD HAVE. IT WOULD HAVE LOOKED AT THE WORST AREA AND DONE THE CORE SAMPLE.

THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. AND THEN FOR THOSE THAT ARE THOSE RESIDENTS THAT ARE CALLING US COMPLAINING ABOUT THEIR STREETS WHEN WILL WE HAVE THE LIST OF FINAL STREETS THAT ARE IN ORDER? DID YOU SAY SEPTEMBER? SEPTEMBER 3RD, I THINK IS IS THE MEETING THAT WE'RE COMING BACK WITH YOU AND WE'RE FINALIZING THAT LIST.

WE MET WITH JOHNSON ENGINEERING LAST WEEK TO REVIEW THAT LIST.

TO FINALIZE IT, TO BE ABLE TO PRESENT IT TO YOU ON THE THIRD.

OKAY. THANK YOU. SURE. THANK YOU, MR. YOUNG. YEAH, THAT WAS IT.

I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GOT TO THE POINT THAT WE WOULD BE COMING BACK WITH THAT IN SEPTEMBER, AND THE ONLY OTHER THING IS, IS DID WE SEND OUT THE LIST THAT THEY'RE GETTING READY TO START FOR THE PAVING WITH THIS YEAR'S ALLOCATION.

HAVE WE GIVEN THAT TO EVERY MEMBER OF COUNCIL THAT THAT WAS INCLUDED IN THE CAPITAL BUDGET PRESENTATION? OKAY. BUT I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE IN AN EMAIL CORRESPONDENCE THAT THEY ALREADY KNEW WHICH STREETS WOULD BE ON IT IF YOU COULD, WE COULD SEND THAT TO BE BENEFICIAL AS WELL. THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER PENMAN.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. WATER SEWER FUND, PAGE 177.

TOTAL DEPARTMENT EXPENSES WITHIN THE WATER SEWER FUND ARE JUST SHY OF $54 MILLION FOR NEXT YEAR.

THERE IS A FOR ALMOST A $5.4 MILLION INCREASE FROM THE CURRENT YEAR.

THAT'S PRIMARILY RELATED TO CAPITAL. PROJECTED WATER REVENUE IS INCREASING BY ALMOST $2 MILLION FOR A TOTAL OF 22 MILLION.

SEWER REVENUE IS INCREASING BY $1.6 MILLION, FOR A TOTAL OF 8.8 MILLION.

THE CPI RATE INCREASE, WHICH THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVED BACK ON JUNE 18TH, IS BAKED INTO THIS BUDGET AT 2.2%.

AS STEFAN ALLUDED TO EARLIER THE BUDGET DOES INCLUDE ABOUT $18.75 MILLION IN CAPITAL FUNDING, AND THERE ARE 113.75 POSITIONS BUDGETED IN THE WATER SEWER FUND.

AND AS MR. YOUNG ALLUDED TO EARLIER, THAT IS SUBJECT TO CHANGE BASED ON HOW WE VET VACANCIES AND CURRENT DEMANDS ON THE ENGINEERING SIDE OF THE HOUSE AS IT RELATES TO THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT. PAGE 188 WHEN YOU START LOOKING AT THE DEPARTMENT SUMMARY, AND THAT DEPARTMENT SUMMARY REPRESENTS SEVEN DIVISIONS ACROSS THE WATER SEWER FUND, TOTAL OPERATING EXPENSES TOTALED $21.3 MILLION.

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NOTABLE INCREASES WITHIN THE FUND PERSONNEL SERVICES IS INCREASING BY $1.2 MILLION.

CITY ADMINISTRATION IS INCREASING JUST OVER $51,000.

ELECTRICITY IS INCREASING BY $347,000 WITHIN THE WATER SEWER FUND.

THE WATER PLANT IS SUBJECT TO A 25% FPL INCREASE FOR NEXT YEAR.

THAT ACCOUNTS FOR ABOUT A $255,000 INCREASE WITHIN THAT LINE ITEM WITHIN THE WATER PLANT.

THE WASTEWATER PLANT IS SUBJECT TO A 27% INCREASE FOR FPL.

THAT ACCOUNTS ABOUT. THAT ACCOUNTS FOR ABOUT $60,000 ON THE WASTEWATER SIDE.

AND THEN ALL OF OUR OTHER PUMPING FACILITIES ACROSS THE SYSTEMS ARE SUBJECT TO A 15.43% INCREASE, WHICH ACCOUNTS FOR ABOUT $32,000 WITHIN THE WATER SEWER FUND.

THE FINAL NOTABLE INCREASE WITHIN THE WATER SEWER FUND IS TECH SERVICES AT $212,000.

SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE ENTIRE FROM A BIG PICTURE, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE ENTIRE FUND, THE FUND IS INCREASING BY ALMOST $5.4 MILLION FOR NEXT YEAR, OR 11% IN COMPARISON TO THE CURRENT YEAR.

BUT KEEP IN MIND, 4.3 MILLION WAS CAPITAL RELATED AND 1.2 MILLION IS STAFFING RELATED PERSONNEL.

WHAT WAS THE 4.3 MILLION CAPITAL RELATED? BIG TICKET ITEMS IN THERE.

THAT CHLORINE GAS CONVERSION WAS 3.1 MILLION TO 2 PRODUCTION.

WELL, REPLACEMENTS IN THE GOLDEN GATE WELLFIELD WITH 5 MILLION.

THE WATER TRANSMISSION MAINS WAS 4 MILLION AND SEWER MAINS WERE 2 MILLION.

AND THEN THERE WAS SKADAR PROJECT GETTING FIBER OPTIC FROM TECK SERVICES OUT TO EAST NAPLES FOR ABOUT 425,000.

THANK YOU. YEP. ANY QUESTIONS ON WATER? SEWER FUND? COUNCIL MEMBER. PENMAN. PARK SHORE AND CREIGHTON ROAD SEEM TO HISTORICALLY FLOOD.

SO MY QUESTION IS WHETHER OR NOT WE'RE KEEPING ALL OF OUR OUTFALLS CLEAN, KEEPING ALL OF OUR SEWERS CLEAN. THE WHOLE THING SEEMS TO BE A HOUSEKEEPING PROBLEM.

THAT'S CORRECT. I MEAN, WE'VE GOT A LOT OF AS A MATTER OF FACT, WE HAVE A CONTRACTOR IN RIGHT NOW THAT'S CLEANING A LOT OF THOSE THOSE PIPES THAT HAVE BARNACLES OR SOME BLOCKAGES IN THEM. AS A MATTER OF FACT, THE ONE SPECIFICALLY RELATED TO PARK SHORE IS LAKE COLONNADE.

THAT DISCHARGES LAKE COLONNADES INTO AN APARTMENT COMPLEX AT PARK SHORE AND CREIGHTON ROAD.

THERE ARE TWO LAKES, HIDDEN LAKE AND COLONNADE LAKE, THAT TAKE WATER OFF A PARK SHORE THAT DISCHARGES INTO MOORINGS BAY THROUGH A 54 INCH PIPE.

THAT PIPE HAS BEEN CLEANED, AND WE'VE INSTALLED A LINER IN THAT, BECAUSE THERE WERE SOME OFFSETS IN THAT PIPE THAT WAS ALLOWING IT TO LEAK AND CAUSE SINKHOLES. OKAY. THE THE THE BARNACLES WERE SO BAD UP IN THAT PIPE.

IT WAS PROBABLY IT WOULD ALLOW WATER TO PASS, BUT IT WASN'T FOR THE FULL DIAMETER OF THE 54 INCH PIPE.

NOW, THAT'S BEEN CLEANED, IT'S BEEN LINED. AND I DON'T KNOW IF THERE WAS ANY FLOODING HERE RECENTLY ON ON PARK SHORE IF THE RECENT RAINS WE HAD.

MY ASSUMPTION IS ONCE THAT PIPE WAS OPENED UP, THAT THOSE LAKES COLONNADE AND HIDDEN LAKE WILL OPERATE AT A LOWER LEVEL THAT WILL ALLOW WATER TO PASS MORE, MORE READILY OFF PARK SHORE.

WE'VE STILL GOT TO COME BACK AND INSTALL THE BACKFLOW PREVENTER ON THAT PIPE.

AND THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE DONE EITHER THIS WEEK OR NEXT WEEK.

DAVID, I SENT YOU SOME PICTURES THIS MORNING.

IF YOU COULD SCREEN SHARE THOSE, BECAUSE I'M GOING TO REFER TO CRUSTACEANS A LOT TODAY.

AND THE NECESSITY FOR HOUSEKEEPING RELATIVE TO THAT, THIS WAS THIS WAS A PICTURE TAKEN IN JUST ABOUT THE AREA THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. YOU'LL NOTICE THE THE AMOUNT OF CRUSTACEANS IN THAT PARTICULAR PHOTO.

THAT'S PROBABLY A WEEK'S WORTH, MAYBE TEN DAYS WORTH OF CRUSTACEAN INFESTATION.

SO. AND AND HERE YOU HAVE A PIPE FULL OF THESE THINGS.

SO I'M GOING TO REFER TO THAT QUITE A BIT. AND IT SEEMS TO ME THAT WHEN WE DO OUR BUDGET, THAT WE DON'T BUDGET NECESSARILY FOR CARING FOR THESE OUTFALLS LIKE WE SHOULD. FOR EXACTLY THIS PARTICULAR REASON.

AND AGAIN, THAT'LL BE CLEANED AND WITHIN 2 TO 3 WEEKS IT'LL, IT COULD LOOK VERY MUCH LIKE THAT.

SO I THINK THAT'S AN IMPORTANT DISCUSSION FOR US TO HAVE TODAY IS PUTTING ENOUGH IN THE BUDGET TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL OF THESE FALSE ARE CLEAN, AND I'M GOING TO REFER TO THAT A LOT TODAY, MR. YOUNG. SO THANK YOU, MR. PENMAN. LET ME I WILL ADDRESS THAT.

WE ARE IN TOTAL RECOGNITION THAT THAT THIS ASSESSMENT DOES NEED SOME LEVEL OF INCREASE AS IT RELATES TO REPAIR AND MAINTENANCE.

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HANG ON. TAKE YOUR TIME. THANK YOU FOR THE PUBLIC'S EDIFICATION AT CIP 26 VO TWO.

OKAY, I'M ON PAGE 248. YEAH, THERE WAS A RECOGNITION IN TERMS OF AN INCREASE FOR THOSE SERVICES, YOU'LL SEE THAT FIRST PROJECT IS BUDGETED AT $1.6 MILLION.

YES. CURRENT YEAR BUDGET FOR THAT. THOSE SAME EFFORTS IS 1.1.

SO WE DID INCREASE THE BUDGET FOR NEXT YEAR BY ALMOST HALF $1 MILLION TO ADDRESS TELEVISING AND CLEANING OF STORMWATER OUTFALL PIPES.

OKAY. AND THAT ALSO INCLUDES THE NEW ITERATION THAT WE'VE JUST INCREASED $86 MILLION PROJECT WITH ALL THE NEW OUTFALLS AND THE NEW PUMP STATION.

THAT'S THAT'S AN ADDITIONAL THAT'S AN ADDITIONAL THAT INCLUDED IN THIS 1.6.

NO, NO. IF YOU LOOK AT THE PROJECT, THE NEXT PROJECT DOWN, OKAY.

THAT'S THE PROJECT YOU'RE REFERRING TO THE MULTI BASIN.

THE MULTI BASIN. YEAH THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. THE ONLY THING I WANT TO ADD TO THAT IS EVEN THOUGH IT'S AN INCREASE NEXT YEAR, WE ALREADY MOVED SINCE WE DISCOVERED WE HAD BLOCKAGES IN AREAS WE'VE ALREADY MOVED ADDITIONAL FUNDING IN IN THE CURRENT YEAR AND ARE TRYING TO PUT BOTH MANPOWER AND RECLASSIFYING A POSITION TO TO BE ABLE TO UTILIZE THE EQUIPMENT TO GET IN THERE.

BUT WE RECOGNIZE WE HAVE TO HAVE OUTSIDE CONTRACTORS AS WELL, AND WE'VE DONE TWO POS ALREADY THIS YEAR, MOVE THE APPROPRIATION. SO EVEN THOUGH IT'S GOING UP NEXT YEAR, IT'S ACTUALLY GOING UP TO THE LEVEL WE ARE COMMITTING AND MAKING TRANSFERS TO RIGHT NOW.

WE'RE NOT SITTING ON OUR HANDS. THAT'S WHY WHEN BOB REFERRED TO THE THE WANTED COLONNADE, WE MOVED WHATEVER MONEY WE NEEDED TO TO GET THAT DONE.

AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO DO THAT BECAUSE WE RECOGNIZE, I MEAN, AND AGAIN, INCLUDING HAVING THEM THE SAME WITH CAMERAS AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE SEEING INSIDE THESE THINGS. SO THAT'S THE EFFORT WE'VE ALREADY BEGUN, AND THAT'S JUST DOUBLING DOWN ON THE EFFORT WE BEGAN THIS YEAR.

GIVEN WHAT WE'VE RECOGNIZED THAT WAS OCCURRING.

SO. VICE MAYOR, THANK YOU. OH, SORRY. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. THANK YOU FOR THIS DISCUSSION ON THE ON THE STORMWATER. THESE ARE STORMWATER PIPES.

AND, BOB, I THINK YOU SAID IT WAS THAT A 54 INCH PIPE THAT YOU HAD DISCUSSED HAVING SOME PROBLEMS WITH 54, 57, 54 I THINK SO, YES. THE PICTURE, THE PICTURE THAT COUNCILWOMAN.

PENNIMAN. AND WE ALL KNOW WHO WE ARE. RIGHT. THE PICTURE THAT SHE, SHE BROUGHT FORWARD. IS THAT A 54 INCH PIPE? IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT.

I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE, BUT THAT LOOKS LIKE A MUCH SMALLER PIPE.

SO I HAD A SIMILAR QUESTION, BUT I JUST NEEDED TO DRILL DOWN JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE.

SO WHEN THESE BARNACLES ACCUMULATE AND THEY RESTRICT FLOW, THEN THAT THAT BACK PRESSURE CAN END UP CAUSING FLOODING. IS THAT CORRECT? IT COULD. IT COULD. AND IT ALSO, IF THAT WATER ISN'T ALLOWED TO FLOW IN THE IN THE WAY IT WAS DESIGNED, IT COULD GO ON THE OUTSIDE OF THE PIPE AND CREATE SINKHOLES.

NO, SIR. WELL, TWO SEPARATE THINGS. ALL RIGHT.

THE PIPES ARE SIX SECTIONS OF PIPE THAT ARE JOINED TOGETHER.

SO WHAT HAPPENS IS, OVER TIME, THOSE JOINTS SEPARATE AND ALLOW AND ALLOW SURFACE WATER OR WATER TO INFILTRATE INTO THAT PIPE WHICH BREAKS THE SOIL DOWN AND JUST DUMP IT INTO THE PIPE WHICH CAUSES THE SINK SO IT'S INSIDE.

IF THE CONNECTIONS, IT'S NOT AT THE FRONT END WHERE THE PRESSURE IS COMING THROUGH AND IT'S LOOKING FOR AN ALTERNATE PATH.

TWO SEPARATE, TWO SEPARATE THINGS, I THINK. BARNACLES? YEAH. BARNACLES ARE ONE THING, BUT THEN THE OFFSETS THE SET WHERE A PIPE IS DISJOINTED.

THAT'S A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THING. SO WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS LINE THE PIPE, CLEAN THE CLEAN IT OUT, LINE THE PIPE THAT TAKES CARE OF THAT PIPE JOINT OFFSET.

OKAY. SO I NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT BECAUSE THE NEXT QUESTION IS THIS.

AND THE WAY I UNDERSTOOD THE BUDGET DISCUSSION IS IT'S 1.6 MILLION FOR MAINTENANCE CLEANING.

AND THEN WHEN YOU SAY CLEANING, YOU'RE NOT SAYING THAT 1.6 MILLION WILL GO TOWARD THE LINING OF THE PIPES OR OR IS IT?

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YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW WE HAVE CONCRETE PIPES. THEY'RE THEY'RE NOT A SMOOTH SURFACE.

COULD BE WITH SINCE IT'S NOT A SMOOTH SURFACE THAT GIVES A SURFACE FOR THE BARNACLES TO BETTER ADHERE, ADHERE TO WHEN WE LINE THE PIPE. THAT'S A PLASTIC FIBERGLASS TYPE PIPE.

THAT'S VERY SLICK. I'M NOT SAYING BARNACLES WON'T GROW ON IT, BUT THEY WON'T GROW ON IT QUITE AS THE BASE, AS A CONCRETE PIPE, AS THE CONCRETE PIPE HAS GOT AN AGGREGATE TO IT THAT WILL ALLOW THE CRUSTACEANS TO STICK.

ALL RIGHT. OF THAT 1.6 MILLION, THEN WHAT PERCENTAGE.

WHAT WHAT DOLLAR AMOUNT IS REALLY GOING TO GO TOWARDS CLEANING THESE PIPES.

BASED ON RUN RATES I WOULD ESTIMATE BETWEEN 60 AND 70% OF THAT BUDGET, 60 TO 70% OF THE BUDGET.

AND KEEP IN MIND LINING IS IS IS A REPAIR TACTIC FOR THOSE MAINS.

BUT IT'S CRUCIAL RIGHT NOW THAT WE JUST GET IN THERE AND INSPECT THEM AND CLEAN THEM, INSPECTION AND CLEANING ALONE WILL GO A LONG WAY FOR JUST THE SAKE OF THE WAY THAT THE STORMWATER SYSTEM WILL EVACUATE FLOODING, FLOODWATERS AND DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT. OKAY.

TALKING ABOUT IN A LOT OF LIKE LIKE THE OUTFALL PIPE FOR LAKE COLONNADE, WE KNEW THERE WAS A PROBLEM WITH THAT PIPE BECAUSE WE KNEW THERE WAS A SINKHOLE JUST BACK FROM THE SEAWALL. SO WE DIDN'T NEED THE VIDEO INSPECT THAT, BUT WE DID WHEN WE GOT THE BARNACLES OUT OF IT, BUT WE KNEW THERE WAS A PROBLEM THERE. SO MY POINT IS, IF THERE ARE OFFSETS IN THE PIPES, WE WILL PROBABLY FIND IT FIRST BY A SINKHOLE AND WE JUST NEED TO VERIFY IT BY VIDEO INSPECTION.

OKAY, SO WE KNOW PIPES. WE KNOW THE PROBLEM. PIPES IF WE'VE GOT A SINKHOLE FORM.

YEAH. LAST QUESTION. THE THE PIPES. SO WE'RE I'M REALLY DRILLING DOWN INTO THE CLEANING OF THE BARNACLES AND CRUSTACEANS.

DO WE KNOW HOW MANY PIPES ARE REALLY NEGATIVELY IMPACTED BY THAT TYPE OF ROOT CAUSE? THERE ARE SEVERAL. I DON'T KNOW THE NUMBER, BUT WE KNOW THE WORST ONES.

OKAY, I DON'T I DON'T KNOW THE NUMBERS OF THOSE.

WELL THANK YOU AND COUNSEL I'LL I'LL END RIGHT THERE.

BUT WE NEED TO KNOW HOW MANY PIPES. HOW MANY DOLLARS, HOW FREQUENT THESE PIPES ARE CLEANED.

IF WE'RE GOING TO REALLY IMPACT, IN MY OPINION, THE FLOODING THAT'S CAUSED THAT YOU KNOW, AN END RESULT OF THIS. SO I APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU, MR. MIDDLETON. YOU'RE WELCOME. YEAH.

THE ONLY THING I WANTED TO POINT OUT IS, BOB, JUST BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO FOCUS ON ONE LINE ITEM BECAUSE THERE ARE CLEANING OPPORTUNITIES WITH OUR OWN STAFF. AND YOU TALKED ABOUT IT BEFORE, BOB, WHAT THEY'RE CAPABLE OF DOING AND HOW THEY CLEAN SOME PIPES.

BUT THEN WE REACH A BLOCKAGE AND THEY CAN'T DO IT.

CAN YOU JUST ELABORATE. SO BECAUSE THOSE ARE OUR RESOURCES DOING IT, IT'S NOT THAT LINE ITEM.

AND SO I DIDN'T WANT MR. HUTCHINSON TO THINK IT'S 70% OF 1.6.

AND THAT'S ALL THERE IS BECAUSE WE DO A NUMBER OF THINGS OURSELVES ON PIPES.

WE'RE ABLE TO DO. SO CAN YOU JUST ELABORATE A LITTLE BIT ON THAT? WE'VE WE REORGANIZED HOW WE'RE MANAGING STORMWATER.

WE'VE BROUGHT STORMWATER BACK TO THE UTILITY SIDE WITH THE WASTEWATER AND COUPLED IT UP WITH THE WASTEWATER COLLECTION GROUP.

THAT'S THE WAY IT WAS 20 YEARS AGO WHEN WE WERE.

WE WERE TOGETHER WHEN THOSE TWO DIVISIONS WERE PUT TOGETHER.

SO THE SUPERINTENDENT THERE HAS ALWAYS MAINTAINED LOGS AND OPERATIONAL THINGS BASED ON THE SANITARY SEWER SYSTEM THAT'S NOW BEING ROLLED OVER INTO THE STORMWATER SYSTEM. AS FAR AS MONITORING, INSPECTION, EVEN WITH OUR OWN STAFF, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT TWO VAC TRUCKS, ARE CLEANING TRUCKS SPECIFICALLY FOR THE STORM WATER SECTION.

WE JUST NEED TO STAFF THOSE UP TO HAVE MORE AVAILABILITY TO DO MORE CLEANING.

HOWEVER, THAT'S NOT TO SAY THAT CLEANING ISN'T GOING.

ISN'T TAKING PLACE ON THE STORMWATER SYSTEM. WE, LIKE MR. YOUNG SAID. WE DO HAVE OUR OWN RESOURCES THAT WE WILL DO THAT INTERNALLY.

THERE WILL COME IN. RIGHT NOW, WE'RE USING OUTSIDE SOURCES TO HELP US GET CAUGHT UP ON THINGS.

NOT TO SAY THAT WE WON'T DO THAT CONTINUALLY IN THE FUTURE, BUT LIKE YOU MENTIONED, WE DO HAVE OUR OWN STAFF AND OWN RESOURCES TO DO SOME LEVEL OF PIPE CLEANING. THANK YOU, MR. YOUNG. AND THANK YOU, MR. MIDDLETON. ONE MORE QUESTION. HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE FOR A CLEAN PIPE TO RESULT IN THE KIND OF BARNACLE INFESTATION THAT WE SAW ON THE ON THE SLIDE? I DON'T KNOW. WE NEED TO KNOW THAT. WELL, I DON'T THINK IT'S IN MY OPINION.

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I WOULD SAY THAT'S THAT'S IF WE'RE GOING TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM.

MY ASK IS THAT WE GET GRANULAR ENOUGH TO KNOW WHEN WE'RE GOING TO CLEAN IT.

AND IF WE'RE HAVING VIDEO, IF WE HAVE A VIDEO FEED THAT'S GOING TO ALLOW US TO SEE IT, GREAT.

BUT IF WE DON'T, WE PROBABLY NEED TO KNOW ON THESE CRITICAL DRAINAGE PIPES WHEN WE NEED TO SEND PEOPLE OUT.

THANK YOU. AND I THINK THAT'S PART OF THE FREQUENCY OF MAKING SURE WE GET A CAMERA IN THERE, BECAUSE SOME OF THEM HAVEN'T HAD A CAMERA IN IT FOR TENS OF YEARS.

AND I THINK THAT'S PART OF THE PROBLEM IS MY UNDERSTANDING.

AND I DON'T WANT TO. THAT'S CORRECT. YOU KNOW.

BUT THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING. AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE, YOU KNOW, YOU GOT TO START GETTING A CAMERA VIEW OF ALL OF THEM.

AND THEN YOU BUILD THE CASE OVER TIME. BUT I JUST YEAH, THERE'S A RECOGNITION FIRST OF WHAT WHAT WHAT WASN'T DONE BEFORE.

SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER BARTON.

ALONG THE SAME LINE OF THOUGHT HERE. IN ADDITION TO DETERMINING HOW QUICKLY THESE THESE PARTICLES GROW AND HOW OFTEN THEY NEED TO BE CLEANED, WE NEED TO MAKE AN EFFORT TO DO RESEARCH TO DETERMINE THE BEST METHODOLOGIES FOR PREVENTING THE GROWTH TO BEGIN WITH.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS HAVE MADE AN EFFORT AS FAR AS REACHING OUT TO TO OTHER MUNICIPALITIES THAT HAVE THESE SAME ISSUES THAT OBVIOUSLY ARE IN SALTWATER, BUT THERE'S GOT TO BE SOME SOME PROCESS. AND I KNOW YOU MENTIONED LINING THE PIPES.

WE THINK BECAUSE IT'S A SLICKER SURFACE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE LINE THE PIPES WITH SOME SOMETHING THAT HAS A A DETERRENT FOR GROWTH THAT'S OBVIOUSLY ENVIRONMENTALLY SOUND. BUT YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO MAKE AN EFFORT TO, TO MINIMIZE THE GROWTH TO BEGIN WITH AS WE DETERMINE HOW OFTEN WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO SEND PEOPLE OUT THERE TO CLEAN THEM. SO WE NEED TO TO DO SOME WORK ON THE FRONT END TO TRY TO PREVENT THE GROWTH PRIOR TO DETERMINING, YOU KNOW, GETTING CREWS OUT THERE EVERY THREE WEEKS, EVERY SIX WEEKS, WHATEVER THE NUMBER MIGHT BE, WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO LIMIT THE THE NECESSITY FOR CLEANING. IF WE IF WE ARE PROACTIVE IN THE PROCESS OF SETTING THESE PIPES UP SO THAT THEY MINIMIZE THE GROWTH TO BEGIN WITH.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER KRAMER. WELL, YOU KNOW, I TRUST I TRUST OUR STAFF TO ROLL WITH THIS, BUT JUST A LAYMAN'S PERSPECTIVE IS THE NEW STUFF IS AMAZING.

THEY HAVE THESE SLICK BOTTOM BOATS. NOW, THE MATERIALS THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, BOB, THAT ARE IT'S AMAZING HOW THEY PREVENT THE BARNACLES FROM ATTACHING.

I'LL SAY THAT. AND THEN ALSO NUTRIENTS, WATER TEMPERATURE, THE SURFACE, ALL OF THAT REALLY, REALLY MATTERS. WE'RE AT THE WORST TIME OF YEAR RIGHT NOW BECAUSE OF THE TEMPERATURES AND THE AND THE AMOUNT OF NUTRIENTS IN THE WATER.

SO I JUST WANT TO SAY THERE'S A LOT OF VARIABLES THAT OUR STAFF HAS TO WORK WITH.

AND, AND I TRUST THAT BOB'S GOING TO FIGURE ALL THAT OUT AND THEY'RE GOING TO DO THE VERY BEST I CAN.

THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER. YES. BASED ON YOU KNOW, THE WHOLE BUDGET IN TOTAL AND THE AND THE EMPLOYEE THEFT THAT TOOK PLACE A WHILE BACK, THAT WAS SIGNIFICANT.

REGARDING, YOU KNOW, PE CARS AND PE CARDS AND THE LIKE, WHAT CONTROLS DO WE HAVE IN PLACE TO GIVE THE PUBLIC AN US ASSURANCES THAT THIS WILL NOT HAPPEN AGAIN? WELL, FIRST OF ALL, IT'S ALL ABOUT THE LAYERS OF OVERSIGHT AND APPROVALS SO THAT NO SUPERVISOR WILL WANT.

THERE WAS AN EVEN AN ADHERENCE TO THE RULES AT THE TIME, IN THE SENSE IS THAT NO SUPERVISORS SHOULD BE KEEPING ANOTHER EMPLOYEES PE CARD.

YOU KNOW, THERE'S AN OWNERSHIP THAT YOU SIGN AS AN EMPLOYEE AND YOU SHOULD NEVER RELINQUISH THAT TO A MANAGEMENT EMPLOYEE OR ANYTHING ELSE, AND THEN YOU HAVE A LAYER OF APPROVAL. ON TOP OF THAT, WHICH RESTS WITH THE DEPARTMENT, BECAUSE THE DEPARTMENT KNOWS WHETHER THIS WIDGET BELONGS WITH THAT EMPLOYEE AND THE TASK THAT THEY'RE ASSIGNED.

SO THOSE RESPONSIBILITIES HAVE TO BE THERE, BUT IT HAS TO BE SYSTEMIC IN THAT EVERYONE IS DOING THEIR DUE DILIGENCE.

THE PERSON WHO IS THE OWNER OF THE CARD, THE PERSON WHO IS THE SUPERVISOR OF THE CARD, THE SUPERVISOR OF THE OF THAT INDIVIDUAL AND THE DIRECTOR.

AND THEN IT WORKS ITS WAY THROUGH. SO THOSE THOSE PROTOCOLS ARE IN PLACE AND HAVE BEEN IMPROVED.

SO YOU HAVE MORE THAN ONE APPROVAL. BUT THAT AND THEN ALSO TRYING TO PARE BACK THE NUMBER OF CARDS THAT WE HAVE OUT THERE BECAUSE YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M AN OLD SCHOOL GUY. I'M NOT A PICARD FAN.

SO BECAUSE WHEN IT'S A PURCHASE ORDER REQUISITION, YOU CONTROL IT BEFORE THE HORSE IS OUT OF THE BARN? A P CARD IS. THERE'S AN ACCEPTANCE OF AN EXPENSE WITH CONTROLLED PURPOSE, FOR LACK OF A BETTER EXPRESSION.

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AND SO AGAIN, YOU CAN HAVE ISSUES IN ANY ASPECT, WHETHER IT'S THROUGH REQUISITIONS, IF YOU HAVE PEOPLE ON BOTH SIDES OF A TRANSACTION, YOU CAN HAVE ISSUES. BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE P CARDS ARE IT IS A CONSTANT REVIEWING OF OUR PROCESSES.

BUT THAT WAS THOSE ARE SOME OF THE DEFICIENCY THAT WE BELIEVE JUST NEEDED TO BE REINFORCED.

AND BY REDUCING THE QUANTITIES OF CARDS OUT THERE IN THE MORE CONTROLLED ATMOSPHERE, I THINK IT HAS HELPED AS WELL.

ARE WE GOING TO HAVE SOMETHING IN THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT TO HAVE A SEPARATE NON-DEPARTMENTAL AUDITOR? BECAUSE WE DO. WE GET AUDITED EVERY YEAR, BUT IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE THAT'S THE SCOPE OF IT BECAUSE WE FLEW THROUGH THE AUDIT.

WELL, WOULD YOU BE A PROPONENT OF HAVING SOME INTERNAL AUDIT PROCEDURES THAT GO IN RANDOMLY AND.

AUDIT. WELL, I THINK THAT'S IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT AN OUTSIDE AUDITOR JUST COMING IN AND DOING AN INDEPENDENT AUDIT.

IN THAT REGARD, I WOULD NEVER BE OPPOSED TO ANYTHING.

BUT WE DO HAVE AUDITORS INTERNAL. BUT WHAT I SAY, THOUGH, IS WHEN YOU IF YOU LOOK AT A IF YOU LOOK AT YOUR OWN STATEMENT, RIGHT. AND THE DEGREE TO WHICH THE INFORMATION THAT IS THERE, AN AUDITOR IN THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT ISN'T GOING TO KNOW MORE THAN THE DEPARTMENT OF WHAT THAT PIECE OF EQUIPMENT IS UTILIZED FOR AND THE FREQUENCY OF ITS USAGE AND NECESSITY.

SO IT'S A THEY WOULD BE AUDITING PROCEDURES NO DIFFERENT THAN US REINFORCING AND HAVING BUT SO DO I THINK WE NEED A FULL LEVEL WHAT YOU'D SAY SOME CITIES HAVE AN INTERNAL AUDITOR POSITION.

I THINK WE HAVE. WE ADDED A SENIOR ACCOUNTANT POSITION, AND WHEN THE DEPARTMENT'S FULLY STAFFED, I THINK IT'S JUST MAKING SURE THAT THAT WE HAVE THE REDUNDANCY AND THE MULTI-LAYER APPROVALS SHOULD BE ADEQUATE.

BUT I'M NEVER OPPOSED TO HAVING THAT DISCUSSION.

ON ANY LEVEL. I'M JUST FROM ME PERSONALLY, BECAUSE I ALWAYS LOOK AT AUDITORS AS IF YOU CAN LEARN SOMETHING NEW.

IT'S BENEFICIAL. WHAT I ALSO LOOK TO DO IS A COST BENEFIT ANALYSIS TO SAY, IS THE JUICE WORTH THE SQUEEZE OR HAVE WE? BECAUSE ANYTIME YOU FIND ANYTHING IN AN AUDITING, BECAUSE THAT'S MY NATURE, I WAS NOT I MEAN, THAT WAS THE POSITION THAT I HELD BEFORE I CAME HERE WAS CHIEF DEPUTY AUDITOR. AND THE KEY TO THAT IS IF IT HAPPENED ONCE, HOW DO YOU PREVENT IT AGAIN? IT'S NOT THE ONLY TIME IT HAPPENED. AND HOW DO YOU GO BACK AND LOOK FOR OTHERS? THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT YOU HAVE TO DO. AND I THINK WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO DO THAT.

BUT I'M NEVER OPPOSED TO, YOU KNOW, ANY RECOMMENDATIONS IF YOU DON'T THINK THAT WHEN IT'S ALL SAID AND DONE THAT WE'VE DONE ENOUGH, THAT I'M NEVER OPPOSED TO THAT. SO I'M HEARING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE ARE SLIMMING BACK THE NUMBER OF CARDS THAT ARE ISSUED.

I'M ASSUMING WE'RE PROBABLY LOOKING AT THE LIMITS ON THOSE.

THE. YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A WAY TO DO YOU KNOW, WHAT KIND OF PURCHASING, WHAT KIND OF ITEMS THEY'RE BUYING SO THAT IF IT'S OUTSIDE OF THE SCOPE OF, YOU KNOW, WHAT A DEPARTMENT WOULD NORMALLY BUY THAT WOULD TRIGGER SOME SOME FLAG.

THERE ARE. YEAH, THERE ARE THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS.

ONE IS YOU LIMIT THE AMOUNT OF EXPOSURE THAT EACH CARD HAS.

YOU THE APPROVAL PROCESS, THOUGH, YOU WOULDN'T BE LOOKING AT THROUGH THE BANK TO LIMIT WHAT TYPE OF ITEM THAT IT IS.

THAT WOULD BE THROUGH THE AUDIT AND APPROVAL PROCESS BECAUSE THE BANK IS LOOK, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE RUNNING MILLION DOLLAR COMPANIES.

AND, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THERE ARE MILLIONS OF COMPANIES ACTUALLY WHO ARE USING THESE PE CARDS IN THAT CAPACITY IN JURISDICTIONS.

SO THEY'RE NOT GOING TO THE TYPE OF ITEM. IT'S MORE ABOUT THE FINANCIAL PART OR THE THE EXPENDITURE EXPOSURE.

THEN ALSO YOU ALSO MONITOR THERE'S YOU KNOW SOME PEOPLE YOU CAN DO A ONE TIME INCREASE AND YOU HAVE WHAT YOU CALL ONE OFFS.

ANYTHING ABOVE A CERTAIN THRESHOLD YOU MUST STILL GET A PURCHASE ORDER.

AND THEN WE USE CREDIT CARD TO GET THE REBATE PART OF IT.

SO THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT RULES TO IT. I THINK IT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL.

AS A SIDE NOTE, RATHER THAN IS TO GO THROUGH WHAT OUR P CARD POLICIES ARE, MAYBE, AND I TAKE NEXT TIME WE'RE TOGETHER AND GO THROUGH ALL OF THAT TO SHOW YOU THE SCENARIOS AND HOW WE UTILIZE THEM, BECAUSE THOSE SAME PROTECTIONS UNDER OUR PURCHASING PROGRAM, YOU CAN'T JUST TURN AROUND AND SAY, WELL, I'M ABANDONING YOUR NORMAL PURCHASING, WHICH REQUIRES 2 OR 3 QUOTES ABOVE A CERTAIN AMOUNT.

WHERE IT GETS DICEY IS WHEN YOU HAVE MULTIPLE CARDS OUT THERE, AND THEN IT'S FREQUENCY OF MINIMAL TRANSACTIONS OVER AND OVER.

AND THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT GETS YOU MORE SO THAN THE REST OF THE ADHERENCE.

BUT I'D LOVE TO HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO GO THROUGH THAT. ALL OF THE POLICY WITH YOU ON THE P CARD, I WOULD LOVE THAT. I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA.

AND, YOU KNOW, EVEN YOU KNOW WHAT? WHAT IS THE NET NET OF THAT LOSS THAT WE ENCOUNTERED? AND THEN WHAT ARE THE WHAT ARE THE ACTIONS THAT YOU'RE RECOMMENDING? BECAUSE I KNOW THIS WENT ON WAY LONGER THAN WHAT YOU WERE IN THIS POSITION.

ON WHAT? HOW WE'RE TIGHTENING IT. SO I'D BE HAPPY TO GO THROUGH ALL THAT WITH YOU.

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HOW MANY OPEN JOBS DO WE HAVE IN THAT DEPARTMENT? AND ARE WE GOING TO HAVE ISSUES ON, YOU KNOW, GETTING THINGS INSPECTED BECAUSE WE HAVE A SHORTFALL OF PEOPLE? WELL, THAT THAT'S PART OF WHAT I SAID. WE'RE NOT JUST THROWING ONE THING AT IT OR THE OTHER.

AND I THINK LAST TIME I LOOKED, IT WAS SEVEN VACANCIES IN THAT DEPARTMENT.

THAT'S WHY I INDICATED TO YOU THAT WE'VE ALREADY CUT TWO PURCHASE ORDERS TO MAKE SURE WE'RE GETTING OUTSIDE VENDORS TO DO THIS, MONITORING THOSE VENDORS IMPROVE, INCREASING OR RECLASSIFYING A POSITION TO HEAVY DUTY OPERATORS SHOW THAT WE HAD.

WE HAD THE STAFF IN THERE TO BE ABLE TO MAN THE VAC TRUCKS AND TO THE EXTENT THAT THEY'RE CAPABLE, CAPABLE OF CAPTURING TO DO THAT. SO THOSE THINGS ARE ALREADY BEING DONE.

BUT THAT'S WHY I ALSO FORESHADOWED FOR YOU. CASE IN POINT IS WE HAVEN'T EVEN TALKED.

I SAID I'D BE BACK TO YOU SOMETIME AS WE CONTINUE TO BAKE OUT PUBLIC WORKS STORMWATER AS A KEY COMPONENT.

WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE NUMBER OF PROJECTS THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE AND JUST THE, THE, THE NORMAL MAINTENANCE, WE HAVE TO BOLSTER BOTH. BUT WHAT I DIDN'T WANT TO DO WAS ASK FOR MORE BODIES AND HAVE SEVEN VACANCIES.

THAT'S NOT APPROPRIATE EITHER. I THINK IT'S LET'S TRY TO GET IT BEEFED UP.

WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO NOW SAY IF WE HAVE A LOWER LEVEL, WE'VE HAD OPEN VACANT FOR SOME TIME AND WE NEED SOMEBODY THAT'S A HEAVY DUTY OPERATOR TO TO BE ABLE TO UTILIZE THESE VAC TRUCKS AND GET IT TO.

THEN LET'S UPGRADE THAT ONE AND WE'LL BACKFILL WHEN I COME BACK TO YOU AND ASK FOR THE RIGHT POSITION.

BUT RIGHT NOW WE'RE JUST TRYING TO DO BOTH. WE'RE PUTTING CONTRACTORS AT IT AND WE'RE TRYING TO BREAK OUT THE REST OF THE DEPARTMENT.

BACK OUT THE WAY IT SHOULD BE. THAT'S TERRIFIC. AND THEN ONE FINAL COMMENT IS, I WONDER IF THERE'S TECHNOLOGY OUT THERE THAT COULD BE PLACED INSIDE OF THE THE MAJOR PIPES THAT WE HAVE SET UP FOR THROUGHOUT THE CITY THAT WOULD MEASURE THE PRESSURE AND TRIGGER YOU KNOW, WHEN THE PRESSURE BUILDS UP, THERE MIGHT BE A STOPPAGE THAT CAN PROACTIVELY GO TO YOU AND SAY, WE BETTER LOOK AT THIS PIPE. I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY TECHNOLOGY LIKE THAT BECAUSE IT'S NOT A PRESSURE PIPE.

IT'S A GRAVITY PIPE. AND TO TRY TO SAY, YOU KNOW, DETERMINE A CHANGE IN PRESSURE ON A GRAVITY PIPE, WHICH IS OPEN ON BOTH ENDS UNTIL IT'S NOT UNTIL IT'S GOT BARNACLES ALL IN IT.

AND THEN THE NOW JUST PROBABLY NOT A PRESSURE.

I DON'T KNOW HOW TO DETERMINE THAT BY SOME TYPE OF TECHNOLOGY.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER PENMAN.

YEAH. AND I'M REALLY SORRY TO PROLONG THIS MUCH LONGER.

BUT HERE'S YOUR ANSWER. BARNACLES CAN COLONIZE PLASTIC SURFACE SURFACES RELATIVELY QUICKLY.

BARNACLE LARVAE, KNOWN AS CYPRIOTS, ARE ACTIVELY SEEKING SUITABLE SURFACES.

THEY CAN SETTLE ON PLASTIC WITHIN A MATTER OF DAYS.

ONE STUDY FOUND THAT IT TOOK 28 DAYS FOR LARVAE TO ATTACH TO NEOPRENE, SO IT COULD BE WITH.

IT COULD BE A MONTH, 2 TO 3 MONTHS. AND QUITE FRANKLY, I DON'T KNOW ENOUGH YET, BUT I'M GOING TO FIND OUT AS TO WHETHER IT'S JUST NEOPRENE OR IS IT ALL PLASTICS? MY SENSE IS YOU COULD. THEY COULD ATTACH TO JUST ABOUT ANYTHING BECAUSE THAT'S THE WAY THEY ARE.

THIS IS THIS IS IMPORTANT PEOPLE, BECAUSE WE'RE GOING INTO A CONVERSATION AND AND WE'RE POINTING OUR DIRECTION TOWARD RESILIENCY.

IF OUR PIPES ARE NOT EMPTYING, WE'VE GOT FLOODING.

AND I WANT TO SAY THE SAME THING ABOUT OUR GREAT DRAINS.

I HAVE A NOTATION NOTATION HERE THAT WE DON'T HAVE A STREET SWEEPER THIS YEAR.

IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S NOT CORRECT. OKAY, SO I DON'T I DON'T KNOW WHERE I GOT THAT, BUT I DO.

BUT THE SAME THING. WE'VE GOT TO MAINTAIN THE GREAT DRAINS.

IF THEY COVER UP WE'RE GOING TO HAVE FLOODING.

SO IT'S WE'VE WE'VE REALLY GOT SOME MAINTENANCE ISSUES IN MY OPINION, THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED.

SO THANK YOU. YEAH. AND WHEN WE GET TO THE STORMWATER DIVISION WE DO HAVE STREET SWEEPERS AND THERE'S EXTRA REPLACEMENT SCHEDULED.

AND THERE WAS A BUDGET ITEM FOR 25, BUT IT IS ACTUALLY NOT GOING TO GET PURCHASED WITHIN THE CURRENT YEAR.

BUT IT IS BEING RE APPROPRIATED SO THAT THAT PURCHASE CAN OCCUR NEXT YEAR.

AND YOU'LL SEE THAT WHEN WHEN BEN GETS TO THE STORMWATER DIVISION.

SO WE ARE OPERATING WE HAVE TWO STREET SWEEPERS IN THE REPLACEMENT.

ONE OF THEM IS SCHEDULED FOR REPLACEMENT WAS BUDGETED IN 2025.

WE'RE GOING TO ROLL THAT INTO 2026 AND ACTUALLY MAKE THE PURCHASE IN 2026 FOR THE REPLACEMENT.

I JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT, BUT IT'LL. YOU'LL SEE THAT IN THE PRESENTATION WHEN BEN GOES THROUGH IT, MAN. OKAY. THANK YOU, MR. COHEN. OKAY, MOVING ON TO SOLID WASTE.

PAGE 217 OF YOUR BUDGET DOCUMENT. TOTAL DEPARTMENT EXPENSES IN THE SOLID WASTE FUND NEXT YEAR ARE JUST OVER $10.3 MILLION.

THAT'S A DECREASE OF ABOUT A HALF MILLION DOLLARS IN COMPARISON TO THE CURRENT YEAR. PROJECTED REVENUES OR ANTICIPATED INCREASE BY $252,000.

THAT DOES ACCOUNT FOR THE 2.2% CPI RATE INCREASE THAT IS, THAT HAS BEEN BAKED INTO THIS BUDGET.

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THE CURRENT YEAR DOES ACCOUNT FOR THREE LARGE REFUSE TRUCKS. NEXT YEAR'S REQUEST ACCOUNTS FOR TWO.

AND THERE ARE 29 POSITIONS BUDGETED WITHIN THE SOLID WASTE FUND WITHIN ALL FIVE DIVISIONS, AND THERE ARE NO CHANGES RECOMMENDED AT THIS TIME.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE DEPARTMENT SUMMARY, WHICH ACCOUNTS AGAIN FOR ALL FIVE DIVISIONS ON PAGE 224 TOTAL OPERATING EXPENSES TOTALED JUST OVER $6.2 MILLION FOR NEXT YEAR.

AGAIN, THAT'S ABOUT A HALF $1 MILLION INCREASE.

PERSONNEL. PERSONNEL SERVICES ARE INCREASING ALMOST $300,000.

CITY ADMINISTRATION FEE IS INCREASING JUST OVER $34,000.

COLLIER COUNTY LANDFILL IS ACCOUNTING FOR THOSE INCREASES. I JUST MENTIONED TO THE TUNE OF ABOUT $13,000 FOR NEXT YEAR, AND THEN HORTICULTURE COLLECTION SERVICES. THIS THIS BUDGET WAS DRAFTED PRIOR TO US NEGOTIATING A CONTRACT ABOUT TWO WEEKS AGO FOR THE DISPOSAL OF HORTICULTURE COLLECTIONS OR HORTICULTURE DEBRIS, I SHOULD SAY.

I AM HAPPY TO TELL YOU THAT WE HAVE NEGOTIATED A CONTRACT THAT WILL THE RATE WILL REMAIN THE SAME AS THE CURRENT YEAR FOR THE NEXT TWO YEARS.

SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT $40,000 INCREASE, REALISTICALLY, THERE'S ABOUT A $20,000 INCREASE ASSOCIATED WITH THAT LINE ITEM.

SELF-INSURANCE IS INCREASING JUST OVER $126,000, AND THEN SOLID WASTE DUMPSTERS BASED ON RUN RATES IN THE PRICE OF RAW MATERIALS IS INCREASING ALMOST $17,000. SO AGAIN, FROM THE BIG PICTURE PERSPECTIVE, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE TOTAL SOLID WASTE FUND, THE TOTAL FUND IS DECREASING BY ALMOST HALF $1 MILLION IN COMPARISON TO THE CURRENT YEAR, OR ABOUT 4.6%.

ANY QUESTIONS ON SOLID WASTE? STORMWATER FUND.

PAGE 239 OF YOUR BUDGET DOCUMENT. TOTAL DEPARTMENT EXPENSES NEXT YEAR.

TOTAL 14 POINT ALMOST $14.7 MILLION. IT IS INCREASING BY ALMOST 5.8 MILLION IN COMPARISON TO THE CURRENT YEAR.

THAT'S CURRENTLY AS IT'S CURRENTLY DRAFTED, I'M GOING TO GET TO SOMETHING IN JUST A MOMENT, WHICH IS POTENTIALLY GOING TO INCREASE PROJECTED REVENUE.

IS BUDGETED AT $9.7 MILLION. AGAIN, THE STORMWATER RATES DO HAVE THE 2.2% CPI INCREASE BAKED INTO THEM FOR NEXT YEAR.

THERE ARE AT THIS TIME $7.8 MILLION IN CAPITAL FUNDING, AND THERE ARE 22.25 POSITIONS BUDGETED WITHIN THE STORMWATER FUND WITHIN THE TWO DIVISIONS, WITH NO RECOMMENDED CHANGES AT THIS TIME.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE DEPARTMENT SUMMARY FOR THE TWO DIVISIONS THAT ARE THAT ACCOUNT FOR THE STORMWATER FUND ON PAGE 245, TOTAL OPERATING EXPENSES ARE JUST UNDER $2 MILLION.

THAT'S A DECREASE OF ALMOST $100,000 IN COMPARISON TO THE CURRENT YEAR.

PERSONNEL SERVICES ARE INCREASING BY ABOUT $430,000.

CITY ADMINISTRATION, AGAIN, IS INCREASING BY ALMOST $48,000.

REPAIR AND MAINTENANCE IS INCREASING BY $58,000.

THAT'S ACCOUNTING FOR PUMP AND MOTOR REPAIRS AND REPLACEMENTS THAT ARE THREE PRIMARY PUMP STATIONS WITHIN THE SYSTEM.

AND THEN FINALLY, TECK SERVICES IS INCREASING BY ALMOST $21,000 WITHIN THIS FUND.

SO WHEN YOU TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE WAY THE BUDGET IS CURRENTLY DRAFTED THERE IS A $5.8 MILLION INCREASE OR 65.6%, WHICH EQUATES TO 65.6% IN COMPARISON TO THE CURRENT YEAR.

NOW, ONE THING I DO WANT TO POINT OUT, IF YOU LOOK AT PAGE 248 OF YOUR BUDGET DOCUMENT, IT'S THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN.

SUMMARY. THERE ARE TWO CHANGES THAT WE ARE RECOMMENDING IN COMPARISON TO WHEN WE PRESENTED BACK IN MAY.

THE FIRST ONE, WHICH IS NOT ACCOUNTED FOR IN THE ACTUAL DOCUMENT THAT YOU HAVE, IS ASSOCIATED WITH CIP 26 V 14, WHICH IS THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE MULTI BASIN IMPROVEMENTS.

WHEN THIS BUDGET WAS DEVELOPED BACK IN APRIL AND MAY, THIS WAS PRIOR TO THE IMPLEMENTATION PLAN COMING FORTH.

WE HAD DESIGN MONEY BUDGETED IN YEAR TWO OF THE FIVE YEAR PLAN, WHICH IS OUT THERE IN 2627.

IF YOU LOOK AT THAT LITTLE GRAPHIC AT THE BOTTOM PART OF THE SLIDE, YOU NOTICE THERE WAS $3 MILLION IN 2627.

WE ARE RECOMMENDING TO MOVE THAT FORWARD FOR A TOTAL OF 6.5 FOR NEXT YEAR.

AND THAT'S BASED ON THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE IMPLEMENTATION PLAN AND TO HELP STREAMLINE PROCUREMENT ACTIVITIES.

THAT'S ASSOCIATED WITH THE DESIGN EFFORT. IT IS.

IT IS ACKNOWLEDGED THAT EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE 6.5 BUDGETED FOR NEXT YEAR, MORE THAN LIKELY THAT WON'T BE FULLY EXPENSED WITHIN THAT FIRST YEAR.

BUT WE DO HAVE TO HAVE THE FUNDS LAWFULLY APPROPRIATED IN ORDER TO ENCUMBER THEM FOR THAT ENDEAVOR.

THE SECOND CHANGE WITHIN THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN IS THE STREET SWEEPER.

AS MR. YOUNG ALLUDED TO EARLIER, THAT WAS BUDGETED IN THE CURRENT YEAR.

THIS SLIDE RIGHT HERE WAS YOU WOULD YOU PROBABLY REMEMBER THAT FROM LAST YEAR? THAT WAS FOR THE APPROPRIATION IN THE CURRENT YEAR.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET TO THAT. WE WOULD ACTUALLY LIKE TO PILOT TEST SOME OF THE EQUIPMENT THAT'S OUT ON THE MARKET NOW, AND WE WILL BE PURCHASING THAT NEXT YEAR. WITH THAT SAID, ANY QUESTIONS ON THE STORMWATER FUND?

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WE SAW THE ORIGINAL SHOT OVER THE BOW. WE'RE TRYING TO GET FOR YOU NOW, AS WHICH ONES FALL UNDER THE CRA THAT ARE ELIGIBLE UNDER CRA FUNDS.

SO WE CAN DENOTE THAT FOR YOU THEN ALSO HAVE THE FOLLOW UP DISCUSSION TO SAY, ARE THERE SOME OF THESE THAT WE CAN PICK OFF? SOME, SOME OR ALL OF THAT 6.5 MAY BE DESIGNED FOR THE NEXT BIG ONE? WE DON'T KNOW YET, BUT WE HAVE TO SET THAT PRIORITIZATION.

SO HAVING MORE MONEY FRONT END AND MAKE ALLOWS US TO MAKE THAT DECISION.

AND ALSO IF IT ENDS UP BEING ON CONSTRUCTION OF, YOU KNOW, SMALL DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION ON A FEW OF THE STREETS OR AREAS, WE CAN THEN WE'LL DO THAT, BECAUSE IF YOU REMEMBER THE IMPLEMENTATION PLAN, THERE WAS SOME OF THEM THAT WERE 600,000 TO DO THIS, ONE 700,000. DOESN'T SHOW THAT PRIORITIZATION, BUT BY MOVING THAT MONEY FORWARD, THAT'S A KEY COMPONENT TO HAVE.

YOU KNOW, YOU'RE BETWEEN BOTH THE MILLION AND A HALF AND YOU'RE PUTTING $8 MILLION TOWARDS WHAT THOSE PROJECTS ARE NEXT YEAR ALONE, AND THAT WITH IN SOME UNEXPECTED OUT YEAR EXPENDITURE.

AND I THINK THAT'S AS GOOD AS WE CAN DO UNTIL WE SET THOSE PRIORITIZATION.

OKAY. THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER CHRISTMAN. YEAH.

JUST ADD ON THAT FOR EVERYBODY'S BENEFIT, THE THE WE HAVE A CRA MEETING COMING UP ON AUGUST 28TH AND THE AND PART OF THE AGENDA FOR THAT WILL BE TO LOOK AT THE POSSIBILITY OF FUNDING THROUGH THE CRA SPECIFIC STORMWATER MANAGEMENT IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS WITHIN THE CRA, SPECIFICALLY IN THE RIVER PARK, LAKE PARK AREA. AND THESE ARE THE, THE SMALLER I MEAN, THEY'RE STILL IMPORTANT AND BIG, YOU KNOW, BUT MILLION DOLLAR OR LESS THAN $1 MILLION PROJECTS THAT WERE IDENTIFIED IN THE MULTI BASIN PLAN THAT AFFECT THAT AREA.

AND I DON'T KNOW WHETHER I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE INTERRELATIONSHIP IS FROM A BUDGETARY STANDPOINT REGARDING IF THAT ENDS UP IN THE CRA BUDGET, HOW IT AFFECTS THIS 6.5 MILLION YEAR POTENTIALLY.

BUT, YOU KNOW THE THE REAL POINT I WANTED TO MAKE IS THAT WE WOULD HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT AND MAKE A DECISION IN JUST A COUPLE OF WEEKS, A WEEK, REALLY AS TO WHETHER WE WANT TO MOVE SOME OF THESE PROJECTS TO THE CRA BUDGET AS A WAY OF ACCELERATING THEM.

OKAY. AND WHILE I HAVE THE FLOOR, IF I COULD JUST ONE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE ON MR. COPELAND ON THE ON THE STREET SWEEPER REPLACEMENT.

I JUST THINK WE WANT I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE CLEAR ON STREET SWEEPERS.

WE HAVE ONE STREET SWEEPER CURRENTLY OPERATING IN THE CITY.

CORRECT. WE ACTUALLY HAVE TWO. WE HAVE TWO OPERATING.

THERE ARE TWO. THIS WOULD BE A REPLACEMENT FOR ONE OF THOSE TWO.

THAT IS CORRECT. SO ONCE. SO WE DO HAVE TWO OPERABLE NOW.

THAT IS CORRECT. AND AND ONE WILL BE WILL BE SHOPPED OUT FOR A NEW ONE SOMETIME IN THE CURRENT.

IN THE UPCOMING FISCAL YEAR. THAT IS CORRECT.

AND THEN YOU'LL NOTICE IF YOU LOOK AT THAT CIP PLAN IN YEAR TWO, YOU'LL SEE ANOTHER $500,000, WHICH IS THE REPLACEMENT FOR THE SECOND UNIT.

YEAH. AND THEN LOOKING WAY FORWARD IS THE REPLACEMENT OF THE UNIT.

WE TYPICALLY GET 4 TO 6 YEARS OUT OF A STREET SWEEPER DUE TO THE CONDITION.

SO THAT YOU'LL SEE THE PLAN ADDRESSES. BUT IT'S THE VIEW OF STAFF THAT HAVING TWO STREET SWEEPERS IS ADEQUATE TO DEALING WITH THE ISSUES THAT THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR DEALING WITH. CORRECT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. CORRECT.

OKAY. THANK YOU. AND THE ONLY THING I WANT TO DO BEFORE WE LEAVE THIS SLIDE, MAYOR, IS JUST FORESHADOW A LITTLE BIT.

YOU KNOW, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT EVERYTHING FROM REFERENDUM ON STORMWATER, ON STORMWATER AS A GOVERNMENTAL EXPENDITURE TO RATE FEES, ETC. AND THAT'S WHAT I WAS. THIS IS REALLY THE SLIDE THAT I WAS ALLUDING TO, THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE AN HONEST DISCUSSION ABOUT OUR STORMWATER INFRASTRUCTURE, THE RATE OF EXPENSE. AND IF WE DO GO DOWN THE ROAD OF DESIGNING OUR NEXT MAJOR PROJECT, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO HAVE AS FAR AS REVENUE TO TACKLE THAT? AND IF YOU REMEMBER, WE COBBLED TOGETHER $100 MILLION IN THE TWO OUTFALL PROJECTS, 45 MILLION FROM THE STATE, 13,000,001 CENT SALES TAX, AND WE STILL HAVE TEN PENDING TO THE TDC.

AS IT PERTAINS TO TO THE OUTFALL PROJECTS AS WELL, WHICH IS JUST A WAS ANOTHER HURDLE WET LAST THURSDAY.

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MY ONLY POINT IS, IS THAT IN SEPTEMBER, AFTER WE COME BACK AND WE HAVE OUR CONVERSATION ON RESILIENCY.

AND IN OCTOBER, IT'S GOING TO BE A CONTINUOUS DRUMBEAT OF THE IMPLEMENTATION PLAN.

WHERE ARE WE ALLOCATING FUNDS FROM, WHETHER IT'S CRA OR GOVERNMENTAL FUNDS OR STORMWATER? BUT WHAT ARE WE ALSO GOING TO REALISTICALLY THE AGE OF OUR STORMWATER SYSTEM? ARE WE GOING TO DO WITH STORMWATER RATES TO REALLY DEAL WITH THIS OVER TIME? AND SO I THINK IT IT CAN BE A VERY PRODUCTIVE.

AND AS LONG AS WE RECOGNIZE THAT IT'S GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, EVERY MONTH, WE NEED TO HAVE BE WORKING TOWARDS SOMETHING THAT GETS US TO A MULTI-YEAR PLAN ON FUNDING. SO I JUST WANT TO FORESHADOW THAT.

SO THANK YOU, MA'AM. QUIZ AT THE END. CORRECT.

THANK YOU. FINAL FUND WITHIN THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT CAN BE FOUND ON PAGE 277 OF YOUR BUDGET DOCUMENT, WHICH IS THE EQUIPMENT SERVICES FUND. TOTAL EXPENSES BUDGETED NEXT YEAR, OR ALMOST $3.1 MILLION.

THAT'S A DECREASE OF ALMOST 1.5 MILLION IN THE CURRENT YEAR.

AND THAT'S REPRESENTATIVE OF THE CAPITAL PROJECT, THE FUEL ISLAND, WHICH IS BUDGETED IN THE CURRENT YEAR FOR THAT SAME AMOUNT.

BUDGETED REVENUE IS 3.1 MILLION FOR NEXT YEAR.

AGAIN NEXT YEAR, THE CAPITAL. THE BUDGET DOES INCLUDE ALMOST $155,000 IN CAPITAL FUNDING.

$100,000 OF THAT WAS PRESENTED TO YOU BACK IN MAY, WHICH IS A FORKLIFT REPLACEMENT AND A VEHICLE LIFT INSTALLATION.

AND THEN THERE ARE SOME CAPITAL OUTLAY ITEMS TO THE TUNE OF ABOUT $55,000.

THERE ARE TEN POSITIONS BUDGETED WITHIN THE EQUIPMENT SERVICES FUND, AND THERE ARE NO CHANGES RECOMMENDED AT THIS TIME.

ON PAGE 283 OF YOUR BUDGET DOCUMENT, YOU'LL NOTICE THE DEPARTMENT SUMMARY.

TOTAL OPERATING EXPENSES ARE RIGHT AT $1.9 MILLION.

AGAIN, THAT'S A DECREASE OF ABOUT $200,000. PERSONNEL INCREASE.

PERSONNEL SERVICES ARE INCREASING BY ABOUT $51,000.

CITY ADMINISTRATION FEE IS INCREASING JUST OVER $13,000.

OPERATING SUPPLIES, WHICH ACCOUNT FOR THE REPAIR. PARTS FOR THE CITY'S FLEET IS INCREASING. BY ABOUT $50,000.

AND THEN AGAIN, CAPITAL OUTLAY IS INCREASING BY $55,000.

AND THAT'S ATTRIBUTED TO THE REPLACEMENT OF THE OVERHEAD LOOP SYSTEMS WITHIN THE FACILITY.

SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE BIG PICTURE, THE TOTAL FUND IS DECREASING BY ALMOST $1.5 MILLION IN COMPARISON TO THE CURRENT YEAR.

AND WITH THAT, THAT CONCLUDES WHAT I'LL PRESENT IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY. THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

YOU KNOW, IT SEEMS SO EASY. THEY YOU KNOW, THEY JUST GIVE US THAT BUDGET.

WE ASK QUESTIONS AND THEN IT'S IMPLEMENTED. BUT THERE'S A LOT OF EFFORT THAT GOES INTO THIS AND IT'S A LOT OF TIME.

SO THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING, MR. BECKMAN. GOOD MORNING.

MAYOR, COUNCIL. STEVE BECKMAN, DIRECTOR OF BUILDING SERVICES. WELCOME BACK.

AND I'M EXCITED TO BE HERE BEFORE YOU THIS MORNING WITH NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET.

I THINK WE'VE GOT SOME EXCITING THINGS AS EXCITING AS WE CAN GET IN THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT.

SO I WANT TO START OFF BY MENTIONING JUST QUICKLY ON THIS SLIDE HERE THAT THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT IS A SPECIAL REVENUE FUND.

OUR COSTS ARE ALL FUNDED THROUGH THE ISSUANCE OF PERMITS AND THE FEES ASSOCIATED WITH THEM.

AND AND OUR BUDGET IS ALSO LIMITED TO THAT, THAT WE CAN'T EXCEED KEEPING MORE THAN THE AVERAGE OF A FOUR YEAR OPERATING EXPENSE.

SO WE HAVE A CAP ON THAT, WHICH IS APPROXIMATELY ABOUT A $6 MILLION FIGURE.

THE SECOND SLIDE HERE JUST WHAT I REALLY WANT TO HIGHLIGHT IS, IS THAT WE'RE PRETTY CONSISTENT WITH ACTIVITY IN OUR DEPARTMENT, AS YOU CAN SEE, AND LOOKING AROUND. AND WE'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, IT'S TRENDING UPWARDS AND WE HAVE A LOT A LOT GOING ON.

AND AND A LOT OF THESE PROJECTS ARE BECOMING HIGHER AND HIGHER DOLLAR VALUES AS WELL.

I THINK THAT KIND OF SHOWS HERE IN THIS SLIDE. HERE IS OUR ESTIMATED REVENUE SUMMARY, OUR FUND BALANCE.

WE WE SHOOT TO KEEP IN KIND OF THE CENTER OF THIS OF THIS RANGE.

AND IT CAN FLUCTUATE OBVIOUSLY UP AND DOWN DEPENDING ON REVENUES AND HOW YOU KNOW WHAT TYPE OF PERMITS AND PERMIT ACTIVITY, ETC., AS WELL AS OUR EXPENSES. AND RECENTLY, THE LAST FEW YEARS WE'VE TRENDED DOWN A LITTLE BIT.

AND A LARGE PART OF THAT HAS BEEN BECAUSE WE'VE WE'VE TAKEN A SIZABLE CHUNK, $1 MILLION A YEAR AND SET ASIDE INTO A RESERVED ACCOUNT FOR A FUTURE BUILDING. AND THIS FOURTH SLIDE HERE. JUST ANOTHER ANOTHER SHOT AT OUR REVENUE

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AND AS I MENTIONED JUST A FEW MINUTES AGO, WE ARE STAYING VERY BUSY.

WE'VE GOT PROJECTS THAT RANGE FROM ADDITION ALTERATION, REPAIRS, STILL SEEING IAN AND MILTON REPAIRS, ALTHOUGH WE DON'T SEE A LOT, WE STILL SEE A FEW COMING IN.

THERE ARE SEVERAL THAT ARE STILL ONGOING THAT, YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY WE'LL WRAP UP SOON.

BUT IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE HAVE SINGLE FAMILY NEWS.

WE HAVE QUITE A FEW OF THOSE THAT AS A RESULT OF THOSE STORMS HAVE HAVE STARTED OUT, BEEN DEMOED AND STARTED OUT NEW HOMES.

A LOT OF THOSE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES TAKE A COUPLE OF YEARS, YOU KNOW, ON AVERAGE TO BUILD.

SO YOU KNOW, THE NUMBERS ARE KIND OF CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE SEE BECAUSE, AGAIN, THE LENGTH OF THESE PROJECTS ARE CONSIDERABLE IN ADDITION TO SINGLE FAMILY.

WE'VE GOT A LOT OF REDEVELOPMENT WITH MULTIFAMILY AND SOME COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS AS WELL, AND A LOT OF BIG, BIG PROJECTS. I PUT NAPLES COMMUNITY HOSPITAL HERE, BUT I COULD LIST A WHOLE BUNCH IN THE AVENUE.

THERE'S A BIG REDEVELOPMENT ABOUT TO START, AS WELL AS A LOT OF A LOT OF THE CONDO BUILDINGS ON GULF SHORE BOULEVARD.

AND. THIS YEAR, WE'RE SHOWING A REDUCTION OF 867,000 IN OUR, IN OUR FUND.

AND THIS IS AGAIN LARGELY BECAUSE LAST YEAR WE SET ASIDE A MILLION, TOOK A MILLION OUT.

THIS YEAR WE DECIDED NOT TO. A COUPLE OF REASONS.

ONE IS, IS TO MAINTAIN OUR FUND BALANCE IN THE RANGE WE WANT TO.

WE WANT TO KEEP IT. AND THEN SECONDLY, WE HAVE A RESERVE FUND OF THERE AVAILABLE NOW TO START USING TO DO OUR EVALUATION.

AND THEN, YOU KNOW, DETERMINING OUR SPACE NEEDS AND THEN STARTING SOME PRELIMINARY DESIGN.

AND ALSO AS OF THIS LAST LEGISLATIVE SESSION, WE WERE ALLOWED TO USE SOME OF THIS FUNDS AND ALSO FOR TECHNOLOGY ENHANCEMENTS THAT WE STARTED IN THIS CURRENT FISCAL YEAR. SO WE'RE GOING TO USE THOSE FUNDS FOR THOSE PURPOSES AND THEN PROCEED FROM THERE.

OUR TOTAL PERSONNEL SERVICES INCREASED 13.5% PERCENT, ROUGHLY $587,000.

AND THERE ARE NO INCREASES IN STAFFING FOR THIS UPCOMING YEAR.

THIS SLIDE HERE REALLY KIND OF SHOWS, AGAIN, THAT CONSISTENT ACTIVITY AND THE TREND OF, YOU KNOW, STAYING BUSY AND AND, YOU KNOW, NUMBERS KIND OF FLUCTUATE BETWEEN DIFFERENT TYPES OF PROJECTS.

BUT WE SEE A CONTINUED REALLY, REALLY BUSY CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITY IN OUR TOWN, BUILDING FUND EXPENSES. WE'VE INCLUDING PERSONNEL COSTS AND OPERATING CIP WILL INCREASE 4.7 4.57%, ROUGHLY $391,000 FROM THIS FISCAL YEAR. AND THIS IS MAINLY DUE TO THE INCREASE IN WAGES, SALARIES AND AND SOME OF OUR GENERAL COSTS.

WE'VE GOT OUR SOFTWARE WHERE WE'RE INVESTING IN IN SOME UPGRADES AND RECONFIGURING, RECONFIGURING SOME OF IT TO ACCOMPLISH A NUMBER OF GOALS THAT THAT WE HAVE, SUCH AS TRANSPARENCY AND EASE OF DOCUMENTS AND JUST USE IN GENERAL.

WE'VE WE SEE THE CHARGES FOR FIRE INSPECTORS.

AGAIN, THESE AREN'T FOR NEW POSITIONS. THESE ARE JUST SALARY AND WAGE COSTS THAT ARE REFLECTED.

AND THEN SOME INVESTMENT IN OUR INFRASTRUCTURE IS WHAT WE SEE HERE IN TECHNOLOGY, SERVICE, WATER, SEWER AND AND THE CITY ADMINISTRATION AND PROFESSIONAL SERVICES.

WE SEE A SLIGHT INCREASE IN THOSE AS WELL. THIS YEAR, OUR CIP IS TWO ITEMS, TWO REPLACEMENT VEHICLES AND A PORTION OF AN ELEVATOR REPLACEMENT IN OUR BUILDING.

IT'S IT'S DUE. IT'S IT GETS QUIRKY, BUT SO HOPEFULLY WE'RE GOING TO GET THAT PROJECT UNDERWAY AND DONE THIS YEAR.

AND AS I MENTIONED A MINUTE AGO, WE'RE GOING TO BEGIN THE NEEDS ASSESSMENT FOR, YOU KNOW, GETTING GETTING GRANULAR IN OUR SPACE REQUIREMENTS WHERE WE'RE GOING TO PUT IT POTENTIALLY WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.

AND THEN AND THEN AND THEN SOME PRELIMINARY DESIGN FOR THAT.

AND WITH THAT I'LL OPEN IT UP FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. DO YOU WANT TO GIVE A BRIEFING THOUGH ON YOUR NEW TECHNOLOGY? SURE. SURE. SO WE'VE STARTED THE PROCESS AND AND WE'LL BE BACK UP A MINUTE AND SAY THERE'S QUITE A BIT THAT WE'RE PLANNING TO DO IN THE TECHNOLOGY AREA. SO I LIKE TO SAY I'M KIND OF KIND OF SHOOTING FOR THE MOON.

AND, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT A BIG LIST OF THINGS WE WANT TO ACCOMPLISH.

KEEPING THAT IN MIND. IT WILL TAKE SOME TIME.

AND WE'RE GOING TO, YOU KNOW, START BITING OFF LITTLE CHUNKS OF IT AT A TIME. STARTING WITH THE INCORPORATION OF AI,

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ARE WE GETTING WHAT WE NEED? AND THEN WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? SO IF WE CAN MAKE BIG IMPROVEMENTS IN THAT FIRST STEP, THAT'S GOING TO MAKE BIG IMPROVEMENTS IN TURNAROUND TIME.

IF WE CAN CUT BACK THE, YOU KNOW, ONCE IT GETS INTO REVIEW AND THEN WE NOTICE SOME THINGS WHEN WE GET INTO REVIEW THAT'S MISSING.

YOU KNOW, AGAIN CATCHING THAT ALL AT THE FIRST STEP.

YOU KNOW I'M HOPING IS GOING TO HAVE SOME LARGE EFFICIENCY GAINS.

SO THEN IT WILL PROCEED TO WHERE WE START GETTING INTO LIKE CODE REVIEW AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO. AND THAT'S JUST WHAT THE BILLING DEPARTMENT.

SO WE'RE STARTING THERE A COUPLE OF MONTHS THERE. SO I WOULD EXPECT TO SEE THIS BEING TO A POINT WHERE WE CAN START USING IT AND SEEING SOME OF THESE EFFICIENCIES IN THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT AREA, AND THEN IT WILL GO DEPARTMENT BY DEPARTMENT TO TO WORK IN THE AREAS AS WELL.

AND THAT'S WHAT THE I COMPONENT, THE CITY VIEW ENHANCEMENTS.

AGAIN THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT PROJECTS IN THERE THAT THAT WE'RE ABOUT EXPECT TOMORROW AS A KICKOFF MEETING TO START LOOKING AT WHEN DO WE GET, YOU KNOW, EACH DIFFERENT PIECES ON THE SCHEDULE AND THEN WHAT IS THAT. WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE. SO YOU KNOW, I ANTICIPATE THIS BEING, YOU KNOW, 1 TO 2 YEAR PROCESS AS FAR AS GOING THROUGH ALL THESE DIFFERENT ENHANCEMENTS.

THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER. BARTON. STEVE. STEVE, YOU MENTIONED THAT YOU'RE NOT THERE'S NO PERSONNEL INCREASE, ARE YOU? ARE THERE OPENINGS OR ARE YOU FULLY STAFFED? WE HAVE OPENINGS. I THINK LAST TIME I SAW THE REPORT, WE WERE AT 6 OR 7 POSITIONS.

I THINK WE MIGHT HAVE FILLED ONE OF THE OPEN PERMIT TEXTS THAT WE HAVE.

WE HAVE A FEW POSITIONS AT THAT LEVEL. YOU KNOW, WE JUST TENDERED OR WE'RE JUST ABOUT TO MAKE AN OFFER FOR ANOTHER POSITION.

WE STILL HAVE SEVERAL OPEN POSITIONS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE WORK TO FILL OUT BECAUSE THEY'RE LICENSED POSITIONS.

THEY'RE JUST, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE HARDER TO COME BY. THIS IS WHY WE HAVE A PRETTY DECENT AMOUNT IN OUR PROFESSIONAL SERVICES ACCOUNT SO THAT WE CAN BRING IN EXTRA HELP AS WE NEED IT. AND WE CURRENTLY DO HAVE, I THINK, USUALLY 2 TO 3 PEOPLE IN OUR DEPARTMENT THAT ARE FROM ARE HELPING US WITH CAP SERVICES AND OUR INSPECTIONS. OKAY. SO YOU'RE YOU'RE STILL ACTIVELY LOOKING TO FILL POSITIONS.

BUT FROM A BUDGETARY STANDPOINT THERE WASN'T AN INCREASE FOR PERSONNEL.

CORRECT. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION.

WELCOME. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COUNCIL MEMBER I SAW IN YOUR CHART THE NUMBER OF, YOU KNOW, CEOS APPROVED, ETC.. ARE YOU SEEING BECAUSE WE'RE READING A LOT ABOUT SORT OF A SLOWDOWN ON NEW HOUSING? ARE YOU SEEING THAT IN NEW PROJECTS STARTING OFF ON THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE? WE'RE NOT SEEING ANY SLOWDOWN ON OUR END. YOU KNOW, USUALLY THERE IS A LAG WHEN THERE IS, YOU KNOW, WHEN WHEN THERE'S A SLOWDOWN FROM DESIGN AND, YOU KNOW, ARCHITECTURE TO WHERE THEY, YOU KNOW, PUT PLANS TOGETHER AND THEN SUBMIT THEM. BUT IN THE CITY HERE AGAIN, A LOT OF OUR PROJECTS, AS I MENTIONED, ARE TAKE A PRETTY FAIR AMOUNT OF TIME TO BUILD.

AND SO THERE'S A SIZABLE AMOUNT OF WORK THAT'S ALREADY IN THE PIPELINE, WHETHER IT BE SINGLE FAMILIES TO COMMERCIAL AND MULTI-FAMILY.

SO THERE'S A LOT THAT WE HAVE SEEN ALREADY SUBMITTED AND WE HAVEN'T SEEN A SLOWDOWN IN SUBMITTALS.

OKAY. THAT'S GOOD NEWS FOR, YOU KNOW, THE TESTING OF OUR MONEY COMING IN, MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE ENOUGH REVENUE. THE NEXT THING IS THE LEGISLATURE PASSED SOME ITEMS ON INSPECTIONS AND SHOT CLOCKS IN YOUR DEPARTMENT. ARE YOU SEEING ANY IMPACTS, OR DO YOU SEE ANY IMPACTS ON WHAT THEY HAVE PASSED WITH SERVICE DELIVERY? OUR, OUR LEVEL OF SERVICE DELIVERY, I THINK HAS HAS, HAS GOTTEN STRONGER.

I KNOW THE UTILITIES DEPARTMENT, FOR EXAMPLE, HAS, HAS THIS IN THE PAST 6 OR 8 MONTHS, REALLY EXPANDED THEIR USE OF CITY VIEW SO THAT THEIR INSPECTORS IN THE FIELD, FOR EXAMPLE. INSTEAD OF PREVIOUSLY, THERE WAS ONE PERSON IN THE OFFICE WHO WOULD PUT THE NOTES AND PUT THE THINGS INTO THE COMPUTER IN THE SYSTEM NOW. NOW THERE'S 15 LICENSES OR THERE'S 15 DIFFERENT USERS.

NOW IN UTILITIES. IT WAS A BIG REASON FOR THE EXTRA WORKSPACE USERS IS THAT NOW THERE'S A FIELD PERSONNEL THAT CAN HAVE THE ABILITY RIGHT THERE AT AN INSPECTION, PUT IT IN, AND THAT SPEEDS THAT PART OF THE PROCESS UP ON ON THE OTHER SIDE, ON THE PLANNING REVIEW SIDE,

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SO FOR EXAMPLE, IT COULD BE 30 DAYS ON A SINGLE FAMILY AND WE SHOOT FOR FIVE.

SO, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A WE HAVE A PRETTY GOOD TURNAROUND.

BUT IT DOES VARY PLUS OR MINUS DEPENDING ON, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S IN ARGUE? OKAY. AND THEN MY MY LAST QUESTION IS ABOUT A YEAR AGO.

YOU KNOW, THERE WAS A WE GATHERED TOGETHER A BUNCH OF DEVELOPERS AND WITH MARTY AND, AND AND SORT OF GOT THE VOICE OF THE OF THESE THE USERS OF OUR SERVICES. ARE WE PLANNING ON HAVING LIKE A PHASE TWO WHERE WE BRING THEM BACK IN AND SAY, YOU KNOW, WE'VE PUT WE'VE IMPLEMENTED THESE CHANGES, HAVE YOU NOTICED IMPROVEMENTS? WE WE DO PLAN TO RECONVENE. I'M NOT SURE IF I THINK AT THIS POINT, YOU KNOW, TWICE A YEAR IS WHAT WE WERE LOOKING AT.

I WILL SAY THAT THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT AND I KNOW SOME OTHER DEPARTMENTS DO AS WELL MEET MONTHLY WITH THE CBA, THE COLORADO COUNTY BUILDERS INDUSTRY ASSOCIATION.

AND IT'S IT'S VERY WELL ATTENDED. AND WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, THOSE WIDE RANGE OF PROFESSIONALS ATTEND AT THOSE MEETINGS.

AND WE JUST HAD ONE LAST WEEK AND YOU KNOW, THEY.

THEY KEEP US ON OUR TOES. YOU KNOW, WHENEVER THEY HAVE QUESTIONS, WHETHER IT BE GRANULAR WITH A PERMIT OR JUST IN GENERAL, WE SHARE WITH THEM, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER INFORMATION THEY'RE LOOKING FOR. AND WE ALSO WE ALSO SHARE WITH THEM INFORMATION THAT WE KNOW WILL HELP THEM AND HELP OUR RESIDENTS IN THIS BUILDING PROCESS HERE IN THE CITY. OKAY.

THANK YOU. WELCOME, VICE MAYOR. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR.

THANK YOU, MR. BECKMAN. YOU. THIS PAST WEEK, I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO ATTEND THE FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES, WHICH IS ONE OF THE ANNUAL THINGS THAT HAPPENS.

AND I HAVE REACHED OUT TO OUR OUR IT DIRECTOR ON THIS MATTER, BUT IT'S ON I.

AND YOU SPOKE ABOUT AI OR ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE, AND I LEARNED ENOUGH.

AND AT THE RIGHT TIME I'LL, I'LL GIVE A BRIEF RECAP OF THAT.

BUT MY ASK IS THIS. AND ANDREW DICKMAN, I'M, I'M ASKING YOU THAT WHEN IT COMES TO AI AND AS WE THE INFERENCES THAT ARE MADE, THE ITERATIONS, THE PROGRESSION OF AI THE DECISIONS THAT AI MAKES, THE DECISIONS THAT AI MAKES, AND THEN OUR STAFF OVERRIDES THAT. YOU WORK WITH OUR TEAM AND MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE CLEAR FROM A FOIA PERSPECTIVE AND HOW AI PROGRESSES THAT WE DO IT, AND A RESPONSIBLE MANNER, A MANNER AND THAT WE DON'T GET SIDEWAYS WITH THE LAW.

AND THERE'S CONCERNS ACROSS THE STATE OF FLORIDA.

ABOUT HOW THAT'S DONE, WHAT'S RETAINED FOR PUBLIC RECORD.

AND THERE'S THERE'S SEVERAL OTHER DEEPER ISSUES ON THAT.

BUT IT REQUIRES A CITY ATTORNEY TO REALLY A DO WE HAVE A POLICY ON AI IN OUR I'M SURE OUR IT GUY WILL BE UP HERE. BUT FROM A LEGAL STANDPOINT, MY ASK IS THAT YOU AND FOR THE COUNCIL, WHETHER OR NOT WE WANT TO ADVISE OUR CITY ATTORNEY TO STAY ON TOP OF IT AND LOOK OUT FOR THE BEST INTERESTS OF OUR RESIDENTS, BUT ALSO KEEP US OUT OF LITIGATION IN AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.

THANK YOU. THANKS. AND JUST JUST TO CLARIFY THAT I OBVIOUSLY IS A BIG TOPIC IN EVERY INDUSTRY.

THE LEGAL INDUSTRY IS NO EXCEPTION. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT ALL THE TIME.

I ASSUME WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS THE RETENTION OF MAYBE METADATA OR ITERATIONS AS YOU KNOW, YOU FEED BACK TO THE AI. I MEAN, DURING I'VE BEEN READING A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW THEY USE AI AND BUILDING PERMIT EVALUATIONS, BUT I THINK THOSE WOULD BE PUBLIC RECORDS AND YOU WOULDN'T WANT THOSE TO BE LOST.

AND I WOULD ASSUME THAT THEY HAVE SOME FEATURE THAT THEY UNDERSTAND THEY THEY BUILD THE SOFTWARE.

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SO BUT YES, I'D BE HAPPY TO LOOK INTO THAT. SO I'M FASCINATED WITH AI.

SO FROM OUR IN AI, I BELIEVE THAT I CAN HELP US IN A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS, BUT IT HAS TO BE LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE.

IT HAS TO BE PROPERLY MANAGED AND IT HAS TO BE PROPERLY PLANNED.

AND SO I'M THINKING THAT OF THE CHARTER EMPLOYEES, THE CITY MANAGER, THE CITY ATTORNEY, AND THE CITY CLERK.

BETWEEN THOSE THREE ENTITIES. WE CAN, IF WE DON'T HAVE A POLICY THAT OUR STAFF CLEARLY UNDERSTANDS HOW I CAN BE USED, THE TYPE OF QUESTIONS WHERE YOU LEAD, I THESE THESE THINGS ARE GOING TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE, BOTH POSITIVE AND POTENTIALLY HAVE A NEGATIVE IMPACT ON MY ASK.

AND I HOPE AND MAYBE IT'LL GO TO CORRESPONDENCE AND COMMUNICATION.

BUT MY ASK IS THAT WE WE GET THIS RIGHT AND WE GET PREPARED.

YEAH, YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. THE LEGAL WORLD, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT BECAUSE THE FLORIDA BAR HAS SAID THAT YOU CAN'T USE CHATGPT AND SOME OF THESE OPEN EYES BECAUSE THERE'S A CONFIDENTIALITY ISSUE.

BUT WITH REGARD TO A PUBLIC ENTITY, IT'S A PUBLIC RECORDS ISSUE.

SO IF I YEAH, IT'S A GREAT, GREAT IDEA TO THINK ABOUT IT.

BUT HAVING AN AI POLICY, JUST LIKE A SOCIAL MEDIA POLICY IS VERY IMPORTANT.

I'D LIKE TO INTERJECT THIS TO THAT. YOU KNOW THIS IS THIS IS REALLY THE START OF, OF US WALKING DOWN THIS ROAD AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, SOME IMPORTANT TERMS. YOU JUST MENTIONED OPENAI.

WE'RE NOT USING AI. AS YOU KNOW, I THINK MOST OF THE PUBLIC SEE ON CHATGPT WHERE YOU'RE INVOLVING THE WHOLE INTERNET AND EVERYTHING OUT THERE.

WE'RE USING A CLOSED SYSTEM THAT'S OURS, THAT WE GIVE IT INFORMATION, AND THAT'S THE ONLY SOURCE OF THAT INFORMATION.

SO IT'S CONTROLLED IN WHAT IT SEARCHES. IT'S GOING TO SEARCH THE CODES.

IT'S GOING TO SEARCH THE BUILDING CODE. THE CODE IS GOING TO IT'S ONLY GOING TO LOOK AT WHAT WE'RE GIVING IT.

AND AND THAT'S OURS. AND AND THEN AS FAR AS PUBLIC RECORDS, FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN, WHEN WE DO USE IT TO REVIEW A DOCUMENT COMING IN AND IT CREATES A REPORT, THAT REPORT IS A DOCUMENT JUST LIKE ALL THE REST OF THE PERMIT DOCUMENTS THAT'S THERE WITH A BASICALLY A SUMMARY OF, OKAY, WHAT DID YOU FIND RIGHT WITHIN THESE DOCUMENTS AND THEN IN COMPARISON WITH THESE CODES.

SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S A VERY BROAD SUBJECT OF AI, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE STARTING WITH A VERY, VERY NARROW LITTLE PIECE OF IT THAT BUT YOU'RE RIGHT, IT'S JUST A, IT'S HUGE WHAT THE OPPORTUNITY IS.

AND WE HAVE TO REALLY BEYOND THAT TO FIND, YOU KNOW, HOW WE USE IT.

THANK YOU, MR. BECKMAN. AND IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'VE GIVEN SOME CRITICAL THOUGHT TO HOW THIS AI IS GOING TO ASSIST THE CITY.

JUST THINK A LITTLE FURTHER OUT ON HOW IT'S UPDATED.

WHO'S TOUCHING IT? DOES IT EVER GO TO THOSE KIND OF THINGS SO THAT WE MAINTAIN CONTROL? THAT'S WHERE THE POLICY COMES IN. BECAUSE THIS COUNCIL IS NOT WE CAN'T MICROMANAGE IT.

WE DON'T WANT TO, BUT WE JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE OUR OUR STAFF AND OFFICIALS ARE ON TOP OF IT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER CHRISTMANN.

YES. THANK YOU MAYOR. TWO THINGS, MR. BECKMAN.

ONE, AS A FOLLOW UP TO ONE OF THE POINTS THAT COUNCILWOMAN PETRA KNOPF RAISED, AND SHE MADE REFERENCE TO STATE LEGISLATION THAT HAD PASSED THIS YEAR JUST TO DRILL DOWN ON THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE.

I THINK SHE MAY HAVE BEEN REFERENCING SENATE BILL 1080, WHICH YOU AND I TALKED ABOUT EARLIER IN THE SUMMER, AND I'VE HAD A NUMBER OF CONVERSATIONS WITH PEOPLE SINCE THEN, AND I KNOW WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A LEGISLATIVE DISCUSSION ON WEDNESDAY TO REVIEW WHAT PASSED AND GOING FORWARD FOR US. BUT YOU KNOW, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF FOCUS ON SENATE BILL 180, WHICH WE'LL ALSO TALK ABOUT. BUT 1080 IMPOSES REPORTING REQUIREMENTS ON MUNICIPALITIES AND COUNTIES.

I GUESS THAT WITH STRICT DEADLINES AND IF THOSE DEADLINES ARE NOT MET.

BASED ON MY UNDERSTANDING OF THE LEGISLATION, THEN CERTAIN, THEN PETITIONS MAY HAVE TO BE AUTOMATICALLY APPROVED WITHOUT REVIEW BY THE MUNICIPALITY. JUST AS AN EXAMPLE, AND I THINK THIS WOULD AFFECT THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT, THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT, PERHAPS OTHER DEPARTMENTS. BUT I WONDERED WHETHER YOU HAD ANY FURTHER COMMENT ON THAT, BECAUSE WHAT I'VE HEARD FROM CERTAIN PARTIES IS THAT THE DEADLINES THAT HAVE BEEN IMPOSED THROUGH THIS LEGISLATION ARE REALLY FOR PRACTICAL MATTERS,

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AND IT'S NOT A MATTER OF, GEE, JUST GET MORE EFFICIENT.

IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, NOT NOT REALLY POSSIBLE TO MEET THESE TIMELINES.

ANY COMMENTS? WHILE WE HAVE YOU HERE. I'M SURE THERE'S THERE'S A NUMBER OF THESE IN A FEW DIFFERENT BILLS AS FAR AS TIMELINES AND FOR DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS AND WHAT WE DO.

AND SOME OF THEM ARE CHALLENGING AND CONCERNING BECAUSE, AS YOU SAID, YOU KNOW, IT REALLY KIND OF COULD POTENTIALLY PUT US IN A POSITION OR SOMEONE IN A POSITION OF, OKAY, HERE, YOU KNOW, HERE YOU GO.

HERE'S YOUR PERMIT, EVEN THOUGH IT MAY NOT HAVE GONE THROUGH THE PROCESS, BUT AND I SAY, YOU KNOW, THE FULL REVIEW PROCESS, BUT ON OUR END, A LOT OF IT IS WITHIN THE INITIAL TOUCHES TO THE PERMIT.

RIGHT. WE, WE HAVE TO GET IT AND THEN DO A SUFFICIENCY CHECK WITHIN A CERTAIN TIME FRAME, AND THEN, AND THEN THE REVIEW IN A CERTAIN TIME FRAME. AND, AND WE WE'VE BEFORE THE LAW CHANGED, WE WE WERE WAY AHEAD OF IT.

AND WITH THE SUFFICIENCY PART, FOR EXAMPLE, AND WITH THE CHANGE, IT'S IT.

IT'S WHERE WE ARE. SO IT'S IT'S KIND OF CATCHING UP TO US, SO TO SPEAK, ON THAT, ON THAT PIECE OF IT.

THERE ARE OTHER YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THERE'S A, THERE'S A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT BILLS FROM, FROM CERTAIN FIRE PERMITS TO DEVELOPMENT ORDER PERMITS, ETC., THAT, YOU KNOW, WE DO HAVE TO ENSURE THAT OUR PROCESS WORKS AND THAT IT AND THAT IT IS EFFICIENT.

AT THE SAME TIME TO, YOU KNOW, WE WE'VE HAD THESE TIME CLOCKS THERE ALREADY FOR QUITE SOME TIME.

AND, YOU KNOW, THERE'S THERE'S ALWAYS A COUPLE OR A FEW THAT WANT TO CHALLENGE THAT, BUT IT'S, THEY'RE NOT ALWAYS REALLY UNDERSTANDING IT AND MONITORING IT LIKE IT'S LIKE IT'S WRITTEN.

SO, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF TIMES, WELL, YOU'VE GOT X NUMBER OF DAYS AFTER THAT, YOU GOT TO HAND ME A PERMIT AND IT'S, IT'S NOT AS CLEAR CUT AS THAT. I MEAN, THERE'S, THERE'S, THERE'S CLOCKS THAT START TO STOP IN THE PROCESS AND IT DEPENDS ON OBVIOUSLY THE APPLICANT SIDE OF IT AS WELL. BUT SO THERE IS A LOT TO GET OUR ARMS AROUND THIS YEAR IN THIS IN THIS SESSION, I THINK WE'VE GOT AN UPDATE COMING UP AND ONE THAT'S PUBLISHED THAT KIND OF GOES THROUGH ALL THE DIFFERENT BILLS AND ALL THE DIFFERENT AREAS THAT THAT WE ARE.

THIS YEAR, AS I SAY, WE'LL HEAR MORE ON WEDNESDAY.

BUT, YOU KNOW, FROM A BUILDING DEPARTMENT STANDPOINT, THEN WHAT I'M HEARING YOU SAY IS YOU HAVE NOT SEEN ANYTHING THAT AFFECTS YOUR DEPARTMENT THAT YOU DON'T THINK YOU CAN MEET IN TERMS OF NEW REQUIREMENTS.

CORRECT. THAT I THINK WE CAN MEET THEM. I DON'T SEE ANY PROBLEMS WITH THAT.

THERE'S QUITE A BIT THAT AFFECTS OUR DEPARTMENT AND THINGS THAT WE'RE ACTIVELY WORKING ON THAT, THAT OUR CHANGES, LIKE YOU SAID IN SENATE BILL 180, SOME OF THOSE THINGS WE WE DID BEFORE, IT WAS A BILL, RIGHT.

WE HAD AN EMERGENCY PROCESSED ISSUE PERMITS. AND BUT, YOU KNOW, NOW THAT'S ONE OF THESE THINGS THAT WE WILL NOT ONLY REPORT ON, BUT WE WILL PUBLISH. AND I MEAN, SO THERE'S SOME CHANGES LIKE THAT THAT WE JUST NEED TO EXECUTE, THAT WE'VE ALREADY BEEN DEVELOPING, YOU KNOW, ALONG OVER THE YEARS.

SO BUT YES, I THINK WE CAN DEFINITELY MEET THE REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE IN THIS, IN THESE CURRENT BILLS.

THE. THANK YOU. THE SECOND THING I WANTED TO RAISE AGAIN, WHILE WE HAVE YOU HERE, IS OUR FAVORITE FORMER FAVORITE TOPIC.

ANYWAY, MAYBE IT'LL BECOME A FAVORITE TOPIC AGAIN SOON.

FLOOD PANELS. I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL IF YOU COULD PROVIDE SOME TIME IN THE NEXT SEVERAL WEEKS MONTH. AN UPDATE TO COUNCIL.

I'M TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING IN A FORM OF A WRITTEN UPDATE THAT WOULD DESCRIBE WHEN THE DUST SETTLED THIS SPRING, HOW MANY, HOW MANY PERMITS WERE ACTUALLY APPLIED FOR AND ISSUED BOTH ON THE COMMERCIAL MULTIFAMILY SIDE AND THEY'RE SINGLE FAMILY SIDE.

AND JUST SORT OF WHAT ACTIVITY DID WE END UP SEEING? AND, AND AND ANY OTHER RELEVANT INFORMATION THAT WOULD JUST LET US KNOW? I MEAN, THIS WAS THIS PAST SEASON, IF YOU WILL, WAS REALLY THE FIRST MAJOR SEASON THAT WE HAD GOING FROM THE FALL INTO THE INTO THE SPRING OF SERIOUS AND INTEREST AND ACTIVITY AROUND GETTING THOSE PERMITS FROM A LOT OF PEOPLE. JUST WHAT HAPPENED. AND THEN IT WOULD BE GOOD TO HAVE AS WE LOOK AHEAD TO THE TO THE COMING SEASON.

SURE. I'D BE HAPPY TO. AND I WILL JUST SAY THIS NOW THAT THE INTEREST HAS NOT LET UP AND, AND WE

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RIGHT. IT'S OBVIOUSLY A TOPIC THAT'S ON FOURTH FOREFRONT OF EVERYONE'S MINDS.

I WILL SAY, THOUGH, THAT THAT WE HAVE HAD TIME NOW TO REALLY SETTLE IN ON, OKAY, HOW DO WE GO ABOUT LOOKING AT EVERYTHING AND THEN WHAT'S THE PROCESS LOOK LIKE? AND, YOU KNOW, CITYWIDE.

SO. AND AGAIN, BECAUSE I SAID DIFFERENT BUILDINGS INVOLVED, DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS WITHIN THE CITY, BUT AND ALSO SAY, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE ISSUED PERMITS, WE, WE ARE ISSUING PERMITS.

WE STILL HAVE A LOT OF NEW, NEW PEOPLE, NEW PLAYERS, SO TO SPEAK, THAT ARE GETTING INTO, YOU KNOW, DOING THIS SORT OF THING. SO THEY'RE LEARNING.

FIRST OF ALL, FIRST OFF, YOU KNOW, THAT THERE IS POSTED GUIDANCE AND THEN YOU KNOW HOW TO FOLLOW IT.

BUT WHEN WHEN IT IS FOLLOWED, IT'S, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, WE'RE ABLE TO EVALUATE IT AND GET SOME PERMITS ISSUED ALONG THE LINES OF THE POSTED GUIDANCE, YOU KNOW, HAVING DONE IT OURSELVES BACK LAST FEBRUARY.

SINCE THEN, THE STATE NOW IS LAST I HEARD, AND THIS WAS THE BEGINNING OF JUNE, WAS ON THEIR SECOND DRAFT FOR STATEWIDE GUIDANCE THAT, YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN IN COMMUNICATION WITH THE STATE TO DEVELOP THAT STATEWIDE.

AND IT'S LARGELY LIKE WHAT WE HAVE. IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, THERE'S AS YOU THINK ABOUT IT AND DISCUSS IT MORE AND, AND MORE PLACES WHERE THERE'S WHERE THERE'S OBVIOUSLY DIFFERENT TYPES OF FLOODING, THINGS LIKE THAT. THERE'S, THERE'S THERE'S MORE CONSIDERATIONS AND SOME GUIDANCE THAT'S, THAT'S GOING TO COME OUT ON THAT DOCUMENT.

BUT I'D BE HAPPY TO COME BACK BEFORE YOU GIVE YOU THAT UPDATE.

THAT'D BE GREAT. THANK YOU. MR. YOUNG. DID YOU WANT TO.

YEAH. I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I THINK THERE'LL BE A SECOND PART OF THIS DISCUSSION, AS YOU WOULD PROBABLY SUSPECT, WITH PLANNING AND AND IN TERMS OF BOTH THE LEGISLATURE AND ITS IMPACT ON THEM AS WELL AS IT IS ON HIM.

BUT I WOULD ALSO SAY THAT THE FLOOD PANEL CONVERSATION HAS MADE ITS WAY TO, YOU KNOW, REARING ITS HEAD IN SOME PLANNING OR SITE PLAN, ACTUALLY, IN SOME CASES WHERE THEY WANT A PERMANENT STRUCTURE THAT'S GOING TO CHANGE THE FACADE OF THE BUILDING 5 TO 6 MONTHS OUT OF THE YEAR, TAKING AWAY PARKING PLACES THAT WERE ALREADY APPROVED AND NECESSARY TO POTENTIALLY PUT STORAGE UNITS FOR SOME OF THESE PERMANENT PANELS.

AND SO OUR PLANNING DEPARTMENT IS A QUANDARY.

AND WHAT DO I APPROVE? WHAT DON'T I APPROVE FOR A TEMPORARY FLOOD PANEL SITUATION THAT'S GOING TO CHANGE THE FACADE OF THE BUILDING HALF THE TIME OF THE YEAR. SO WE HAVE A LOT OF THERE'LL BE THERE'S GOING TO BE REQUIRED CONTINUED DIALOG.

AND WE HAVE ONE NOW THAT I THINK IS IN THAT CATEGORY THAT DEPENDING ON WHICH WAY WE GO IN PLANNING, I WANT YOU TO HAVE ALL THE BACKGROUND INFORMATION AND WE'LL SEND THAT EMAIL OUT.

SO YOU'RE AWARE BECAUSE WHAT WE CAN'T DO IS CHANGE.

I DON'T THINK YOU WANT US TO DO IS THROW EVERYTHING TO THE WIND TO PUT THE PANELS UP.

BUT IN THE SAME TOKEN, WE MAY HAVE TO HAVE SOME CODE CHANGES THAT SAY, LOOK, STAFF HAS TO BE IN POSITION TO EITHER DO IT OR NOT DO IT, BUT WE DON'T WANT TO DO IT IN A VACUUM. AND SO THE THE FLOOD PANELS IS AND AGAIN YOU AND YOU ALWAYS HAVE THE FIRE CONSIDERATIONS PLEASE.

I'LL JUST THAT'S A, THAT'S A STANDING THING. LET ME JUST SAY THAT.

BUT THE OTHER PART IS ALSO SOME PLANNING AND SOME OTHER ISSUES AS WELL.

SO IF I CAN ADD ONE MORE THOUGHT TO THAT, TO THAT ONE THING I'VE HEARD IN DISCUSSIONS WITH A LOT OF DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, RESIDENTS AND, YOU KNOW, OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS IS, YOU KNOW, THE REALIZATION IS REALLY STARTING TO SET IN THAT THIS IS MORE OF A LONGER TERM CONVERSATION, RIGHT? INITIALLY, IT STARTED OUT AS A OH MY GOSH, WE GOT IT.

AND WE JUST HAD THREE FLOODING EVENTS THAT IMPACTED PEOPLE.

YOU KNOW, IT WAS PRETTY PRETTY HORRIFIC, YOU KNOW, AND DIFFICULT.

AND AND SO YOU KNOW THERE WAS A BIG JUST REACTION TO THAT WHEN OF COURSE YOU GOT CONSTANT THREATS OF MORE STORMS. BUT AS, AS THIS IS KIND OF SETTLED IN, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A BETTER UNDERSTANDING ON.

LOOK, WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT THIS AND, YOU KNOW, GIVE IT SOME MORE TIME TO REALLY THINK, WHAT ARE WHAT ARE OUR OPTIONS AND AND WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE. SO I THINK THAT'S KIND OF AS, AS GARY JUST MENTIONED HERE, WE'VE GOT SOME BIGGER TYPE, YOU KNOW, PROJECTS THAT THERE'S A LOT MORE CONSIDERATIONS THAN JUST PUTTING A FLOOD PANEL UP ON YOUR, ON YOUR HOME.

YEAH. THANK YOU. VERY INTERESTING. THANK YOU BOTH.

YEAH. AND ONE OTHER THING I'D LIKE TO SAY ABOUT A CALENDAR, I'M GOING TO KIND OF THROW THIS OUT THERE.

BUT ONE THING I'VE DISCOVERED IS, IS THAT AND YOU KNOW ABOUT IT, WE'RE DEALING WITH DEVELOPMENTS THAT AN OLD NAPLES HOTEL, THAT WAS, WHAT, 7 OR 8 YEARS IN THE MAKING. WE ALSO HAVE DEVELOPMENTS WHERE WE'LL HAVE WE'LL KEEP THE ORIGINAL TIMELINE ON EITHER PLANNING OR WHAT HAVE YOU.

AND WE HAVE A REQUEST FOR INFORMATION WILL BE THREE YEARS BEFORE WE GET THEM.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE COMING TO FIND OUT IS THERE ARE JURISDICTIONS, INCLUDING COLLIER COUNTY, THAT IF THERE'S NO ACTIVITY WITHIN A PERIOD OF TIME, IT'S CONSIDERED A NEW SUBMITTAL.

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SHOULDN'T HAVE THREE YEARS BETWEEN YOU MAKE A SUBMITTAL.

WE ASK YOU FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION AND THREE YEARS GO BY AND THEN WE GET IT.

AND IT'S STILL A CONTINUED SUBMITTAL. SO I WILL BE LOOKING AT THAT CALENDAR.

AND SO I JUST WANT TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE THAT'S KIND OF REARED ITS HEAD OVER THE SUMMER FOR ME.

AND, AND JUST IN DIALOG AND CONVERSATION. BUT WHEN I REALIZED THAT THERE ARE JURISDICTIONS THAT DO THAT, I THINK IT'S A HEALTHY DISCUSSION FOR US TO WORKSHOP EVENTUALLY.

SO. YEAH. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER MARTIN.

THANK YOU. COUNCILWOMAN PETRONAS HAD MENTIONED THAT YOU'VE GOT A SCHEDULED OR PLAN ON HAVING A REGULARLY SCHEDULED, REOCCURRING MEETING WITH DEVELOPERS TO HELP GET THEIR INPUT TO TO MAKE THE PROCESS MORE EFFICIENT AND EFFECTIVE.

WHAT I WOULD SIMPLY REQUEST IS THAT YOU ALSO INCLUDE THE GCS SIMPLY BECAUSE THAT'S THE OTHER HALF OF THE EQUATION YOU GET.

YOU GET THE PERMIT FOR THE PLANT, THE PERMIT FOR THE PROJECT, AND THE DEVELOPERS SAY YAY! AND THEN FOR THE NEXT TWO YEARS, DEPENDING ON WHAT THE SIZE OF THE PROJECT IS, YOU'RE DEALING WITH THE GCS, THE INSPECTIONS PASS, THE INSPECTIONS, GETTING CO, TCO, WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE. SO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT ENTIRE PROCESS, NOT JUST SIMPLY THE PERMITTING PROCESS, BUT ALSO THE THE BUILDING PROCESS IS EFFICIENT AND EFFECTIVE AS POSSIBLE AS WELL.

SO SO AGAIN, JUST JUST AND IF NOT INCLUDE THE GCS, MAYBE HAVE A SEPARATE MEETING.

YOU KNOW, IF IT'S TOO MUCH THE ENTIRE PROCESS.

LET'S HAVE A HAVE MEETINGS THAT HELP MAKE THE PERMITTING PROCESS MORE EFFICIENT.

AND THEN YOU CAN HAVE THE MEETING WITH THE GCS TO HELP MAKE THE BUILDING PROCESS MORE, MORE EFFICIENT.

THAT'S BEEN EXACTLY THE APPROACH THAT WE BASICALLY HAD TWO PRONGS TO IT.

ONE WOULD BE THE BUILDING SIDE, THE GC SIDE, AND THEN THE OTHER IS THE ARCHITECTS AND THE, YOU KNOW, THE PLANNERS AND THAT SIDE OF IT. AND WE BOTH KIND OF DID THAT LOCKSTEP TOGETHER BETWEEN, YOU KNOW, US AND THE AND THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT. RIGHT. WE KIND OF HAVE OUR AREAS WHERE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE WE'RE WE'RE MORE ON THE BUILDING IN THE IN THE CONTRACTOR SIDE.

WE'RE IN THE PLANNING IS MORE ON THE ARCHITECT THAN THE DESIGN.

WONDERFUL. IF YOU IF YOU DON'T MIND, JUST KEEP US INFORMED FROM A STANDPOINT OF WHEN THOSE MEETINGS ARE COMING DOWN THE PIPE, BECAUSE WE'VE GOT CONSTITUENTS AND BUSINESS OWNERS THAT ARE INTERESTED IN PARTICIPATING IN THOSE TYPES OF OF MEETINGS AND THAT PLANNING PROCESS.

SO WE CAN WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE AWARE OF WHEN THOSE MEETINGS ARE TAKING PLACE.

WE'LL DO. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I HAVE VICE MAYOR.

YEAH. JUST REAL QUICKLY, A FOLLOW UP. STEVE. MR. BECKMAN THE YOU'RE IN IN THE NOTES HERE. YOU'RE PRIMARILY AN ENTERPRISE FUND, RIGHT? THAT'S HOW YOU DERIVE YOUR THE FUNDS FOR YOUR BUDGET.

CORRECT. IT SAYS PRIMARILY USING ENTERPRISE FUNDS AND FOR THE PUBLIC AND COUNCIL, THE BUILDING PERMIT FUND ANTICIPATES REVENUE OF 8,090,000.

AND EXPENSES TOTALING 8,957,500. RIGHT. SO THERE'S.

AND I THINK THAT GOES BACK TO THE STATEMENT YOU JUST MADE MR. YOUNG, ABOUT THINGS ARE IN THE PIPELINE AND THEY HIT AT DIFFERENT TIMES.

SO MY QUESTION IS THIS. AND BY THE WAY, ON ON PAGE 134, I WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M UNDERSTANDING WHEN IT SAYS PERSONAL SERVICES.

IS IT MEANT TO SAY PERSONNEL SERVICES OR IS THAT REALLY PERSONAL.

WHICH PAGE WOULD YOU SAY? 134 IT'S PERSONNEL.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT THEN. THEN WE'RE CLEAR ON THAT.

SORRY. SO MY QUESTION IS THIS. ARE THERE EXPENSES RELATED TO YOUR DEPARTMENT WHICH ARE NOT IN YOUR CONTROL, AND AS SUCH COULD INCREASE. BECAUSE WHEN YOU LOOK AT YOUR BUDGET, I MEAN, IT'S PRETTY, PRETTY BASIC STUFF.

BUT WITHOUT GETTING INTO THE WEEDS ON THAT, IS THERE ARE THERE ELEMENTS OF YOUR BUDGET WHICH ARE OUT OF YOUR CONTROL? THERE ARE OTHER CITY DEPARTMENT FUNDS THAT HAVE AN IMPACT ON OUR ON OUR DEPARTMENT THAT I WOULD SAY YES.

ARE, YOU KNOW, UP TO THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS AND CITY MANAGEMENT, MANAGEMENT IN GENERAL.

AND IS THERE A CAP ON HOW HIGH YOUR DEPARTMENTAL EXPENSES CAN INCREASE, OR IS IT PRETTY STABLE? IS THERE A CAP ON YOUR EXPENSES? AND IT'S GOING TO BE I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT THIS LATER.

NOT NOW, BUT IS THERE A CAP ON WHAT IT TAKES TO RUN THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT? WELL, OVER TIME, AS WE IF COSTS INCREASE TO INCREASE LEVEL OF SERVICE, WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO TO, TO CAPTURE THAT. OKAY. SO OUR OUR OUR COSTS, OUR OUR FEES ARE MEANT TO COVER OUR COSTS.

AND WE AND THEY KIND OF DO LOCKSTEP WITH EACH OTHER.

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YEAH. YOUR YOUR DEPARTMENT IS A LITTLE BIT UNIQUE.

YOU'RE MORE UNIQUE THAN, LET'S SAY, POLICE AND FIRE.

SO BECAUSE OF THE WAY THAT YOU HAVE ENTERPRISE REVENUE GENERATED THROUGH PERMITS AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS.

CORRECT, CORRECT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. MADAM MAYOR, CAN I JUST ADD ONE OTHER THING? LAST TIME WE DID A UNIVERSAL ACROSS THE BOARD INCREASE IN FEES FOR YOUR DEPARTMENT WAS.

OOF! THANKS FOR BRINGING THAT UP. SO A LONG TIME.

A LONG TIME AGO WE DID. OBVIOUSLY, OUR RECENT FEE INCREASE WERE JUST A FEW DIFFERENT, RIGHT? BUT IT'S BEEN OVER FOUR YEARS AT MY POINT. YEAH.

2018 AND THEN GOING BACK. OUR BASE RATE HAS BEEN THE SAME SINCE 2008.

YES. SO. SO THE POINT BEING IS THERE ARE TWO DISTINCTIONS.

IT IS A SPECIAL REVENUE FUND THAT'S BASED ON USAGE.

AND THE FEE STRUCTURE SHOULD BE REVIEWED IN THE COMING YEARS.

SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT A ONE YEAR SPIKE, EXPENSES DOESN'T EXCEED OR EXPENSES OR EXCEEDING REVENUE THAT GIVES YOU.

OKAY. WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME WE EVALUATED IT? IS IT SURELY BASED ON PURELY BASED ON CONSUMPTION AND SO ON.

SO IT'S IN WE'VE HAD THIS DISCUSSIONS AS TO WHAT TIME WE SHOULD BE COMING BACK WITH A RATE EVALUATION.

SO I WOULD JUST WANT TO ANSWER THAT POINT. SO I THINK THAT'S PARTLY WHERE YOU'RE GOING. AND THEN THE OTHER PART OF IT JUST, YOU KNOW, AS A SPECIAL REVENUE FUND WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT ADMINISTRATIVE FEE OR THE OTHER AND HE REFERENCED THOSE, THOSE ARE BASED ON FORMULARIES. SO STEVE HAS A SPECIAL REVENUE AND SO ARE THE ENTERPRISE FUNDS.

YOU HAVE SERVICES THAT ACROSS THE SCOPE OF THE ENTIRE CITY.

ONE IS THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE, THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT.

WE DO THEIR PAYROLL, HR, CLERK'S OFFICE, CITY ATTORNEY.

THOSE DEPARTMENTS GO INTO GET BLENDED INTO A FORMULA.

AND THE ENTERPRISE FUNDS AND SPECIAL REVENUE FUNDS LIKE STEVE GET CHARGED BACK.

SO THOSE FEES ARE BASED ON WHEN ANYTHING GOES UP.

THOSE GET BUT IT'S PROPORTIONAL TO THE USAGE OF THE DEPARTMENT.

SO I WANT YOU TO KNOW HOW GETS GUARDED TO KEEP THE FUND INTEGRITY.

SO IT'S NOT JUST HERE. HERE'S 200,000 I'M GOING TO GO USE IT SOMEWHERE ELSE.

IT'S NOT THAT WAY. I JUST WANT TO ASSURE YOU OF THAT.

SO THAT'S ALL. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. RICKMAN. THANK YOU FOR YOUR DEPARTMENT AND ALL YOU'RE DOING, YOUR BUILDING.

AND THE ACCOMPLISHMENTS THAT YOU'VE HAD. THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

COUNCIL. IT'S. WE'RE IN NEED FOR A BREAK, BUT COULD WE HOLD OFF AND AT LEAST GET THROUGH POLICE DEPARTMENT, OR SHALL WE TAKE A BREAK? WHAT'S THE CONSENSUS? TAKE A BREAK OR GO TO THE POLICE. I'M FINE WITH GRINDING.

THANK YOU. I'D LIKE TO PLEASE. THANK YOU. I ASKED THE CLERK.

SHE SAID IT WAS OKAY. SO CHIEF. YOU GUYS LOOK LIKE YOU'RE FADING THERE. GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING. AND IT IS WITH GREAT PLEASURE TODAY THAT I SHARE THE INFORMATION THAT RELATES TO THIS BUDGET.

WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF COOL PICTURES. I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.

BUT WHAT I DO HAVE IS A PRELIMINARY STATEMENT, AND THEN I'LL GO INTO THE SLIDES.

THIS BUDGET AS THE ONE LAST YEAR, IT IS VERY DELIBERATELY PLANNED IN ACCORDANCE TO OUR STRATEGIC PLAN.

IT TAKES US TO 2029. I'M ALSO VERY PROUD TO SAY THAT FOR THE FIRST TIME IN A LONG, LONG HISTORY OF THIS DEPARTMENT OF 100 YEARS, WE ARE NOT ONLY FULLY STAFFED THAT WE'RE ABOUT TO BRING ON TWO MORE PEOPLE IN OCTOBER.

WE HAVE ONE IN TRAINING AND ONE GOING TO THE ACADEMY THAT WE TOOK FROM BEACH PATROL.

THAT HAS PERFORMED EXTREMELY WELL THERE. AND NOW WE HAVE A LOCAL GOING IN AND WE CONTINUE TO HIRE TALENT.

WE RUN AN AVERAGE OF 10 TO 12 PEOPLE ON A WAITING LIST TO APPLY.

I MEAN, WE REALLY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO PICK THE BEST OF THE BEST AND GIVE OPPORTUNITIES TO INCUMBENT EMPLOYEES THAT WE'VE TAKEN FROM PUBLIC WORKS OR WHEREVER ELSE OTHER CITY EMPLOYEES THAT HAVE PROVEN THEMSELVES WELL.

AND THAT COMES FROM TWO THINGS IN PARTICULAR, THE SUPPORT THAT YOU ALL HAVE GIVEN US AND THE MEN AND WOMEN THAT WORK AT THAT POLICE DEPARTMENT THAT ARE VERY WELL ENGAGED. I, THE ONLY PEOPLE I UNDERSTAND THAT EVEN CONSIDER GOING ON ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO RETIRE AND THEY'RE KIND OF HANGING ON LONGER BECAUSE IT'S JUST GETTING BETTER.

SO WE HAVE A VERY FULLY ENGAGED GROUP OF MEN AND WOMEN AND AND ALL.

WHAT WE ARE NOW IS JUST GETTING BETTER. AND WHAT THIS BUDGET REFLECTS IS THAT TRACK TO GET US TO 2029,

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SO WITHOUT ANYTHING ELSE, I'LL GO INTO THE TO THE NUMBERS.

OKAY. IF YOU COULD SEE WHAT I SEE HERE. BUT SO THAT FIRST PICTURE, IF YOU SEE IT, I ALSO WANTED TO MAKE A POINT THAT WE ARE CHANGING ALL OUR CARD DESIGNS TO BE UNIFORMED.

I KNOW YOU'VE SEEN SOME OF THE WHITE CARS ARE STILL ROLLING AROUND THERE.

WE'RE GOING TO BE PHASING THAT OUT. IT'LL ALL BE UNIFORM TO THIS PARTICULAR COLOR AND SCHEME.

AND THAT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE WE ARE MAKING SURE WE BRAND OURSELVES IN THE NAPLES WAY, WHERE EVERYTHING YOU SEE IS EITHER.

IT SPELLS OUT WHO WE ARE IN THE PURSUIT OF EXCELLENCE AND THE QUALITY AND AND EVERYTHING WE DO.

SO HAVING ALL THE VEHICLES, UNIFORMS AND ALL THOSE KIND OF THINGS ARE IMPORTANT.

IT SURE IS A LOT BETTER THAN SEE THREE DIFFERENT POLICE CARS OR DIFFERENT EVERYTHING ELSE.

THIS GIVES US SOME UNIFORMITY. AND SO THAT THAT'S SORT OF WHY WE HAVE THAT CAR IN THERE.

SO YOU CAN SEE WHERE WE'RE GOING WITH THAT. THE FIRST COUPLE OF THESE SLIDES SORT OF EXPLAIN HOW THE DEPARTMENT AND YOU ALL MAY KNOW THIS ALREADY, HOW THE DEPARTMENT IS DIVIDED UP IN THE ADMINISTRATION, WHICH IS DIRECTLY UNDER MY AREA POLICE OPERATIONS, WHICH COVERS ALL THE PATROL AND CID AND INVESTIGATIONS AND THEN SUPPORT SERVICES.

SO WHAT THAT BRINGS TO US IS WITH THE HIRING OF TWO MORE THIS YEAR TO 116 EMPLOYEES.

BUT WHAT I WANTED TO MENTION TO IN THIS IS BEHIND THE SCENES HERE, WE HAVE OURSELVES DIVIDED IN PROGRAM AREAS.

SO YOU HAVE THE DAY SHIFT, WHICH IS DAY A IS A PROGRAM DAY NIGHT A IS A PROGRAM.

SO EVERY ONE OF THOSE SUPERVISORS, THAT'S THEIR AREA OF RESPONSIBILITY.

SO NOW OUR THEME FOR THIS YEAR IS A SENSE OF URGENCY AND OWNERSHIP.

AND SO ALL THOSE SERGEANTS THAT'S THEIRS, YOU KNOW, WHEN HE OR SHE GOES HOME, THAT'S SUPERVISOR, THAT'S THEIR PEOPLE. SO THERE'S A THERE'S A TRUE CONNECTION TO IT.

SO WE HAVE A NIGHT, A NIGHT, B DAY B GIU WHICH IS GENERAL INVESTIGATIONS.

SIU AND I WANTED TO MENTION SOMETHING BECAUSE I HEARD THE CONVERSATION YOU ALL HAD IN REGARDS TO ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE, BECAUSE OF THESE ENHANCEMENTS THAT WE'VE HAD OVER TIME AND ADDING A FEW MORE PEOPLE, IS WE NEED TO GET IN THE IN THE BUSINESS OF CYBER CRIMES.

NOW WE HAVE BEEN DOING IT. BUT THAT THAT PARTICULAR DETECTIVE IS, YOU KNOW, HE'S CYBERCRIMES AND HE'S ALSO FRAUD AND HE'S OVER THIS AND THAT TYPE OF WORK.

YOU HAVE TO BE DEDICATED TO IT. AND WE HAVE A LOT OF OUR FOLKS IN THE CITY THAT FALL VICTIM TO THOSE KIND OF THINGS, WHETHER THEY WHETHER IT BE BY THEIR PHONE OR BY THEIR COMPUTER OR SOMETHING ELSE.

SO WHAT WE HOPE TO DO BY OCTOBER IS PUT ANOTHER SUPERVISOR IN THAT UNIT.

IT WILL ESSENTIALLY BE A TWO PERSON UNIT AND THEN EVENTUALLY A THREE PERSON UNIT AND START SPECIALIZING IN THOSE AREAS, BECAUSE WEATHER AND WE DO USE ONE TO COVER ON THAT TOO.

WE DO USE ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE. BUT I WANT TO MAKE A COMMENTARY ON ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE.

AND AS IT RELATES TO LAW ENFORCEMENT, YOU GOT TO HAVE A PERSON ON ON THAT CHARACTER MEANS EVERYTHING.

SO WHEN WE USE ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE TO IDENTIFY SOMEBODY FROM A PHOTOGRAPH OR SOMETHING, YOU GOT TO PUT EYES ON IT, A HUMAN ON IT, AND THEN MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE THE RIGHT THING THAT YOU THINK YOU'RE LOOKING AT.

OTHERWISE, WE'VE ALL DONE, YOU KNOW, TALK TO TEXT.

AND THAT'S AN ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE TOOL. AND THEN YOU LOOK AT YOUR TALK TO TEXT AND IT SOUNDS LIKE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT YOU SAID.

SO THERE HAS TO BE HUMAN OVERSIGHT BASED ON, ON ETHICS AND VALUES.

SO ANYWAY, WE'RE GOING TO BE EXPANDING OUR CYBER CRIMES UNIT.

OUR COMMUNITY POLICING UNIT THIS YEAR WILL HAVE ITS OWN SERGEANT.

RIGHT NOW THAT SERGEANT HAS TO WEAR SEVERAL HATS.

SO WE'LL HAVE A SPECIFIC SERGEANT PROMOTED TO RUN COMMUNITY POLICING.

WE HAVE A PHENOMENAL TEAM, BUT WE WANT TO KEEP MOVING FORWARD WITH THEM AND GIVING THEM THEIR OWN SERGEANT, WHICH WOULD THEN ALLOW THE TRAFFIC AND MARINE SERGEANT TO FOCUS MORE ON THAT.

AND IF YOU'VE NOTICED, OUR INVESTMENT IN TRAFFIC IS PAYING OFF.

AND WE'RE WE'RE EVERYWHERE. IN IN TRYING TO CALM TRAFFIC DOWN AND PEOPLE DOWN AND AND TRAINING, I WOULD SAY THAT WE WENT FROM 40 HOURS WHEN, WHEN WE FIRST STARTED PUSHING THIS WAY TO, I THINK THIS YEAR WE WERE ABOUT 101 HOURS OF IN-SERVICE TRAINING. AND YOU CAN'T TRAIN TOO MUCH TO ESPECIALLY WITH ALL THE VERY TYPE OF CASES THAT COME UP AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

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YEAH. I JUST WANT TO MAKE A CORRECTION BEFORE YOU GET DOWN TO IT.

IF YOU THIS IS MUCH FOR NICOLE AND STEFAN. IS ANYTHING IN PAGE 110? AS YOU KNOW, CHIEF, THAT 9.75 AND THE BEACH FUND WAS ASKED FOR TWO ADDITIONAL, BUT WE CUT THAT.

SO IF YOU FOR MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, IF YOU GO BACK TO PAGE 207, I HAVE ONLY HAD THE POWERPOINT.

YOU HAVE IT IN THERE. NO, NO. OKAY. THAT'S OKAY.

BUT I WANTED COUNSEL TO BE AWARE BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO SAY I ONLY ADDED TWO PEOPLE.

THEN WE SHOW FOUR PEOPLE HERE. WE DIDN'T ADD ANY MORE.

SO IF YOU GO BACK TO PAGE 207, IT'S REVERTED BACK TO THE 7.75.

SO THAT PAGE 110 WILL CHANGE TO BE THE SAME 7.75.

SORRY TO INTERRUPT YOU, CHIEF, BUT WHILE THAT SLIDE WAS UP THERE, I WANTED TO GET THAT POINT OF CLARITY.

SO SO WE ARE ON TRACK WITH WHAT WE HAD PLANNED TO DO AND WHEN WE FIRST STARTED WITH OUR STRATEGIC PLAN. AND THESE BUDGETS REFLECT WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO GO, I WANTED TO KIND OF PUT THAT OUT TO YOU.

AND SO IF WE LOOK AT THIS SLIDE HERE, WHICH IS THE DEPARTMENT'S SUMMARY, AND IF YOU NOTICE, THE MAJORITY OF OUR COST INCREASE ARE IN PERSONNEL COSTS.

AND THAT'S 20,000,007. AND WHAT THAT HAS MADE THE DIFFERENCE SIGNIFICANTLY BECAUSE AS IT STANDS TODAY, WE LEAD IN OUR AREA, WHICH IS A IS A VERY POSITIVE THING TO DO.

WE DON'T HAVE PEOPLE WANTING TO LEAVE. WE HAVE PEOPLE LOOKING AT STAYING HERE AND MAKING NAPLES THEIR CAREER PLACE, AND THAT'S A GREAT THING IN REGARD TO SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY AND IN DEVELOPMENT OF THE AGENCY.

SO THE PERSONNEL COSTS HAVE GONE UP, AS YOU WELL KNOW.

AND NOW WE LEAD IN THE AREA, WHICH IS SIGNIFICANT, AND WE ARE ATTRACTING PEOPLE.

THE NEXT THING THAT YOU'LL SEE IN THE SUMMARY THERE IS OPERATING COSTS.

AND I'LL GET INTO THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE. BUT SOME OF THESE THINGS HAVE GONE UP IN INCREMENTALLY.

AND AND THEN IN OUR CIP, YOU'LL SEE THAT WE BUMPED UP A LITTLE BIT IN AREAS TO BE ABLE TO, TO BRING IN MORE TECHNOLOGY AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

SO THIS IS WHERE IT GETS BROKEN DOWN. THIS THIS SLIDE IN PARTICULAR BREAKS DOWN AGAIN, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, AS I RAMBLED TRAMPLED ON EARLIER. WE ARE DIVIDED IN THESE THREE DIVISIONS ADMINISTRATION, OPERATIONS AND SERVICES.

AND WITHIN OPERATIONS THERE ARE 13 PROGRAM GROUPS THAT THEN, YOU KNOW, GET THE WORK DONE.

YOU SEE CONTRACT SERVICES AND TRAINING AND TRAVEL COSTS.

MOST OF THE MINOR INCREASES, THERE ARE GENERAL INCREASES.

AND JUST AS COST CONTINUES. AGAIN, OUR PERSONNEL, IT GOES TO SALARY.

WE ARE CELEBRATING OUR 100 YEARS THIS YEAR, AS YOU ALL KNOW.

AND AND OUR TRAINING COSTS WENT DOWN. WE, YOU KNOW, AS WE KEEP HIRING AND WE'RE AT FULL STAFF COME OCTOBER.

WE HAVE MONEY ALLOCATED FOR ACADEMY, BUT BUT IT DOES LOOK LIKE WE HAVE THIS ONE GO IN THE ACADEMY NOW.

AND THE NEXT TWO THAT WE HIRE IN OCTOBER MORE THAN LIKELY WILL BE PRIOR ENFORCEMENT FOLKS.

SO WITH THAT SAID, THERE MAY BE SOME SAVINGS THERE.

AND AND THEN THIS IS THE OPERATIONS DIVISION, AS YOU SEE THERE AGAIN, AS WE MENTIONED.

AND IT ALL MOSTLY GOES INTO SALARY.

AND THAT'S JUST ANOTHER SUMMARY. AND THEN OUR CIP IF YOU NOTICE IN THE CIP WAS SIGNIFICANT, IS TECHNOLOGY AND VEHICLES AND OUR ABILITY TO CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE LPR.

AND IF YOU NOTICE FROM YOUR DAILY BRIEFS, THE LPS ARE ALL WORKING RIGHT NOW.

AND BUT THAT'S JUST LIKE ANYTHING ELSE, YOU KNOW, TIL LIGHTNING HITS IT.

BUT SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBERS AND WITHOUT LOOKING AT TODAY'S OFF YOU'VE BEEN SEEING AN AVERAGE OF 200,000 PLUS OR MINUS VEHICLES IN THE CITY IN THE SUMMER. LAST YEAR, IT SAID 80 SOMETHING.

I DON'T THINK WE WENT UP 160, I THINK LAST YEAR, BECAUSE MANY OF THEM WERE BROKEN.

WE WEREN'T SURE WHAT OUR REAL COUNT WAS. NOW THAT WE ACTUALLY KNOW WHAT OUR REAL COUNT IS AND IT'S ABLE TO DIRECT US TO OKAY, THIS IS THIS IS THE MOST TRAVELED AREA. WHETHER THAT GATEWAY MIGHT BE EAST TRAIL, MAYBE THE GATEWAY IS PINE RIDGE COMING IN DOWN GOODLATTE.

AND NOW WE CAN MOVE OUR TRAFFIC AROUND. FOCUS HERE, FOCUS THERE.

RIGHT NOW WE'RE FOCUSED ON IN THE MORNING ON ON SCHOOL SAFETY.

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SO WE'RE INVESTING HEAVILY ON BOTH TECHNOLOGY AND IN REGARDS TO LP'S ADD REPLACEMENTS.

AGAIN, TRAINING WITH THE VIRTUAL REALITY TRAINING THAT WE CAN GET FROM AXON.

AND THEN ADDING VEHICLES TO THE FLEET. AT THIS POINT.

ONCE THESE VEHICLES ARE HERE, WE WOULD BE ONLY 23 CARS AWAY FROM A FULLY IMPLEMENTED VEHICLE PROGRAM.

AND MAYOR, YOU HAD ASKED THE OTHER DAY HOW MANY WE HAVE. CURRENTLY WE HAVE 64.

AND THAT'S COUNTING ALSO THE THE EMERGENCY VEHICLES, THE COMMAND POST.

BUT BUT THE TOTAL IS 64. AND AND WITH THIS ADDITIVE HERE WE HAVE THIS IS ON AND OFF OF MY GLASSES. I'M SORRY. VEHICLE REPLACEMENTS AND MARKED VEHICLE REPLACEMENTS FOR UNMARKED ONE NEW MARKED VEHICLE SIX AND UNMARKED TWO. AND THEN THE REST OF OUR CAP GOES INTO IT TYPE THINGS, LIKE I SAID, LPR DRONE SENSE. IF I EXPLAINED THAT ONCE IN THE PAST, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ALL RECALL RECALL THAT HAS TO DO WITH THE DRONE BEING ABLE TO SEND REMOTELY LIVE FEEDS TO WHEREVER WE ARE. SO IF WE HAD A DRONE FLYING OVER CAMBIAR PARK, THAT PARTICULAR FOOTAGE CAN BE SENT DIRECTLY TO THE EOC UPSTAIRS OR WHEREVER WE'RE OPERATING.

SO THAT'S A BIG ADDITIVE. BUT AGAIN, IT COSTS THE MONEY.

AND THEN THE AED REPLACEMENTS, THOSE ARE PERIODICAL.

THEY RUN OUT OF TIME AND WE HAVE TO REPLACE THEM.

SO THAT'S IT IN A NUTSHELL. THANK YOU. CHIEF COUNCIL QUESTIONS FOR THE COUNCIL MEMBER, PETRA.

JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS. I SAW THAT THERE WERE TWO UNMARKED VEHICLES IN THERE.

ARE THEY GOING TO BE DIFFERENT THAN THE THAN THE GRAY SUV YOU SHOWED? SO THEY WILL BE ACTUALLY UNMARKED AND HIDDEN? YES, MA'AM. RIGHT NOW IN THE WE'VE EXPANDED AND WE'VE EXPANDED OUR INVESTIGATIVE CAPACITY TO BE MORE PROACTIVE.

SO WHAT? OUR OUR PLAN, OUR STRATEGIC PLAN IS LINING UP IS CID CRIMINAL INVESTIGATIONS IS NOW THREE DIFFERENT AREAS.

WE HAVE THE GENERAL INVESTIGATIONS. SO THOSE ARE EVERYDAY DETECTIVES, AND THEY HAVE UNMARKED CARS OF VARYING THINGS.

AND SO THEY WERE PERSONS CRIMES. SOMEONE WAS BATTERED.

SOMEONE BROKE INTO MY HOUSE. PROPERTY CRIMES.

THE NEXT PIECE OF THAT IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO EXPAND, WHICH IS A CYBER CRIMES UNIT.

THOSE ARE ALL CRIMES THAT ARE RELATED TO THE USE OF A COMPUTER AS A PRIMARY SOURCE OF METHOD OF OPERATION.

SO THAT COULD BE CHILD PORNOGRAPHY. THAT COULD BE AN UP FRONT SCHEME TO THE FRAUD THAT WE USE.

YOU KNOW, WE SWINDLED SOMEBODY BY USING A COMPUTER, THAT KIND OF THING.

SO THEY'LL BE ABLE TO DO THAT. BECAUSE WHAT WE NEED TO DO THERE IS ALSO SEND SOME FOLKS TO SOME MORE ADVANCED SCHOOLS, AND THEN WE TEAMED UP WITH ENTITIES LIKE HSR OR SECRET SERVICE, AND THEY KIND OF HELP US THROUGH THE CASE.

BUT THIS WAY WE CAN, YOU KNOW, RESOLVE THE CASE HERE LOCALLY OR AS MUCH AS WE CAN.

WE HAVE SEVERAL OF THOSE CASES RIGHT NOW BEING WORKED BY, BY OUR FOLKS.

BUT WE WANT TO EXPAND THAT. AND THEN THE THIRD COMPONENT OF INVESTIGATIONS IS SPECIAL INVESTIGATIONS UNIT.

AND THOSE ARE PLAINCLOTHES INVESTIGATORS THAT GO AFTER PROACTIVE CRIMES.

SO FOR EXAMPLE YOU KNOW, IF WE HAD LIKE A BURGLARY PROBLEM ON A PARTICULAR STREET, THEY WOULD BE THE GROUP THAT WOULD DO A SURVEILLANCE ON IT.

THEY WOULD BE THE GROUP THAT WOULD PURSUE THINGS MORE PROACTIVELY WHILE THE OTHER ONES ARE DOING THE WORK.

AS FAR AS THEIR LATENT INVESTIGATION IS MORE HISTORICAL, THIS WOULD BE MORE PROACTIVE.

AND THAT WOULD RUN THE GAMUT FROM EVERYTHING FROM DRUG CASES, VICE CASES, INTELLIGENCE CASES, THOSE KIND OF THINGS. OKAY. AND THEN IN TERMS OF ADDITIONAL THINGS, WE'VE GOT A EMOTIONAL SUPPORT DOG. A BOMB SNIFFING DOG. DO WE NEED A DRUG SNIFFING DOG? YES. AND YOU'LL PROBABLY SEE THAT IN YOUR NEXT BUDGET COMING FROM ME.

BUT WHAT? LIKE I SAID, WE I WANT TO BELIEVE ME.

I WANT IT ALL. OKAY. BUT THE RIGHT THING TO DO IS INCREMENTALLY BRINGING UP WHAT WE NEED TO GET DONE.

AND WE ALSO REALIZE THAT WE WE SHARE THIS MONEY WITH US, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, THE REST OF THE CITY.

YOU KNOW, AS SILLY AS IT SOUNDS, COMING FROM A POLICE CHIEF, IT'S NOT ALL ABOUT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

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AND DOES THAT DOES THAT MEAN ANOTHER DOG OR ANOTHER BOAT? BUT ALL THOSE THINGS ARE TRUE. AND IN THE FUTURE.

BUT WE WANT TO PLAN RESPONSIBLY TO BE AT THE RIGHT PLACE BY 2029.

AND THAT'S HOW OUR STRATEGIC PLAN IS LAID OUT.

SO THE NEXT DOG WOULD BE A SEIZURE DOG. AND BUT WITH THAT YOU NEED THE BODY, YOU KNOW, TO.

THAT MEANS I DON'T WANT TO TAKE SOMEBODY FROM PATROL, BECAUSE THEN I DROP OUR BILLY THERE BY ONE.

I WOULD HAVE TO ADD A BODY. I NEED A VEHICLE SPECIFIC.

AND THEN THE BUDGET FOR THE DOG TO INCLUDE THE FOOD AND ALL THE EXTRA THINGS THAT COME AND VET BILLS AND ALL THAT.

SO THAT IS IF EVERYTHING FROM LOCK, STOCK AND BARREL A BODY AND EVERYTHING ELSE IS $300,000.

SO WE'RE KIND OF PUTTING THAT OFF TO HEAR BECAUSE THESE OTHER THINGS ARE MORE IMPORTANT RIGHT NOW.

OKAY. AND THE LAST THING IS ON THE OVERTIME OF A LITTLE OVER 4% OF THE BUDGET IS OF THE PERSONNEL. BUDGET IS OVERTIME.

DO YOU? GIVEN THAT WE'RE FULLY STAFFED AND ARE GOING TO BE.

AND CONGRATULATIONS. THAT IS SUCH A ONE. 80 FROM WHEN I STARTED ON COUNCIL.

SHOULD WE BE BUDGETING THAT MUCH FOR OR SHOULD WE BE BUDGETING ANYTHING FOR OVERTIME? WELL OVERTIME IS IS SPECIFIC TO SOMETIMES STAFFING SHORTAGES.

BUT WE HAVE TO PLAN FOR HURRICANES. WE HAVE TO PLAN FOR SPECIAL MISSIONS.

WHEN WE DID OPERATION BEACH BLANKET SOME OF THAT WAS ON OVERTIME, JUST SO WE WOULD NOT HAVE ANY GAPS.

SO WHEN WE PUT PEOPLE OUT IN THE FIELD THAT'S IF EVERYTHING IS NORMAL AND OVERTIME IS REALLY FOR SOMETHING THAT IS EXTRA.

OR IT SHOULD BE ANYWAY. ILLNESS, GOD FORBID, ANOTHER PANDEMIC, THOSE KIND OF THINGS.

AND AND THEN SPECIAL RESPONSE TO THINGS SOMETIMES END UP EATING OVERTIME.

WE THERE WERE SOME SPECIAL EVENTS MOST RECENTLY THAT COST US SOME OVERTIME, AND WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S AROUND THE CORNER.

YOU KNOW, SO WE WE USE IT VERY JUDICIOUSLY, BUT IT'S A IT'S A MATTER OF LIKE, I CAN'T PREDICT WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN, SO I WANT TO BE READY FOR IT. AND ARE THOSE HOURS OVERTIME PRE-APPROVED? YES. YEAH. OKAY. NO ONE. NO. YEAH. THEY CAN'T SELF ASSIGN OVERTIME, ALTHOUGH SOME WOULD, BUT.

NO. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. WITH THAT, I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE VERY IMPORTANT AS WE EVALUATE SPECIAL EVENTS AND THE SIZE AND THE COST THAT WE HAVE THAT BROKEN DOWN TO HOW MUCH MANPOWER AND HOW MUCH COST WE ACTUALLY HAVE OVERALL AS WE EVALUATE OUR SPECIAL EVENTS. YES, MA'AM.

BE GOOD TO HAVE COUNCILMEMBER PENMAN. I APPRECIATE YOUR REMARKS.

THANK YOU. I WANT TO TALK WITH YOU ABOUT YOUR CARS A LITTLE BIT.

PRACTICALLY A THIRD OF YOUR ASK ARE CARS, AND THAT SEEMS TO BE CONSISTENTLY THROUGH.

SO UP UNTIL 28, 29. NOT QUITE. BUT THIS YEAR A GOOD ASK.

GOOD, GOOD. PART OF THE THIRD OF THE BUDGET THAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR.

CARS ARE THESE. TELL ME WHY THAT'S THE CASE. ARE THESE CARS THAT WERE RETROFITTING? ARE WE. WELL, THE THE WAY WE USE OUR VEHICLES ARE ESSENTIALLY EVERY OFFICER AND EVERY DETECTIVE AND MYSELF INCLUDED. OUR OFFICE FOR MANY OF THESE PATROL OFFICERS AND EVERYONE ELSE, THAT'S THE CAR IS THEIR OFFICE. AND SO IN THAT CAR IS ALL THE FIRST AID GEAR THAT THEY CARRY AIDS RIFLE THEIR COMPUTERS IN THE CAR, ALL THE OTHER THINGS TO MAKE WORK, WORK.

AND SO AS AN INDUSTRY STANDARD AND AS A MATTER OF DEPLOYMENT, IT'S IN OUR INTEREST TO MAKE SURE THAT EACH PERSON HAS EVENTUALLY THEIR OWN EVERYTHING ISSUED TO THEM TO INCLUDE A VEHICLE WHICH IS COMMON PRACTICE IN MOST PLACES ANYMORE EXCEPT EXCLUDING MARCO ISLAND RIGHT NOW. BUT I THINK PRETTY MUCH THE ENTIRE STATE OF FLORIDA HAS GONE THAT DIRECTION.

AND, AND SO THE, OUR VIEW AND OUR IDEA IS WHEN A SPECIAL EVENT HAPPENS OR SOMETHING HAPPENS OR IN THE FUTURE, IN GENERAL, OFFICERS WILL RESPOND TO A SITE WITHOUT HAVING TO COME TO THE BUILDING FIRST.

AND THERE'S NO WAITING ON THE CAR OR SHARING A CAR WITH SOMEONE ELSE OR HAVING TO LOSE TIME.

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THEY COME TO WORK. BUT I HAVE TO WAIT FOR YOU TO COME IN SO WE CAN, YOU KNOW, SWITCH CARS.

I UNDERSTAND THAT, CHIEF. THESE ARE THESE OFFICE CARS THAT ARE.

ARE THESE ALREADY OFFICE CARS OR ARE THESE CARS THAT ARE GOING TO BE RETROFITTED TO BE OFFICE CARS? THEY'LL COME THE SIXTH THAT YOU'RE THE SIXTH THAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR.

THOSE WILL BE ASSIGNED PATROL. AND ARE THEY ALREADY OFFICE? OFFICE CARS THAT WE ARE NOW TURNING OVER AND AND BUYING NEW.

SOME ARE NEW AND SOME ARE REPLACEMENTS. YEAH.

OKAY, LET ME GO BACK TO THE SO SHALL WE MAKE SURE WE'RE ON THE SAME PAGE, SO TO SPEAK? IF YOU WORK DOWN, THE FIRST FOUR ARE REPLACEMENTS, SO THEY'RE ALREADY IN THE IN THE FLEET AND AND BY ONE REASON OR ANOTHER, THE GARAGE HAS SAID THAT CAR IS NO LONGER GOOD FOR SERVICE.

THEY MAKE THAT DECISION. SO WE'RE REPLACING FOR THEM EITHER BY BECAUSE OF THEIR MILEAGE WAS TOO HIGH OR THEIR, THEIR COST FOR REPAIR IS HIGH. SO THEY EXCEEDED THEIR LIFE.

WE GIVE THOSE CARS BACK TO THE SHOP AND WE ORDER FOR NEW CARS.

OR WHEN THEY COME IN, THEY GET THE OLD CARS AND WE GET THE NEW CARS.

THEN THE SIX NEW CARS ARE BRAND NEW. THEY'LL COME IN WITH ALL OF THEM.

THEY'LL GET MARKED LIKE THE PICTURE THAT WE SHOWED YOU. AND THEY'LL BE ASSIGNED TO A PARTICULAR OFFICER, AND THEY WILL COME IN RETROFITTED TO YOUR SPECIFICATIONS, WHICH IS NOT TRUE OF THE THE OTHERS THAT WE'RE TURNING OVER. THOSE HAVE NOT BEEN RETROFITTED.

THOSE FOUR THAT WERE TURNING OVER HAVE EVERYTHING IN THEM.

THEY'VE BEEN RETROFITTED TO YOUR TO YOUR STATE.

THEY COME. YEAH. THEY ARE POLICE PACKAGE. THEY COME.

THEY GET TAKEN UP TO FORT MYERS TO GET THE STRIPING, THE LIGHTS.

ALL THAT STUFF GETS PUT IN, AND THEY ARE AN OFFICE CAR.

I CAN STEP IN. OKAY. MY ASK WOULD BE THAT WHEN WE ARE TURNING OVER CARS THAT HAVE BEEN RETROFITTED TO YOUR DESIGNATION, THAT WE KNOW WITH THE MILEAGE ON THAT THOSE CARS ARE.

SO AFTER THIS, I'D APPRECIATE HAVING THAT INFORMATION.

THE NEW CARS, THE ONES THAT YOU'RE TURNING IN.

OH, THE OLD CARS. OKAY. YEAH. I'D LIKE TO KNOW HOW MUCH MILEAGE ARE ON THOSE CARS THAT WE'RE TURNING IN THAT HAVE BEEN RETROFITTED TO YOUR SPECIFICATIONS? THE ONES THAT WERE TAKING, THE ONES THAT WERE TAKING, GIVING BACK TO THE GARAGE? YES. GOT IT. THANK YOU. YEAH. THERE'S TWO POINTS.

I THINK YOU CAN SUPPLY THAT WHEN WE DO THEM. BUT I ALSO WANTED MISS PENNIMAN TO KNOW THAT THE WORK PAPERS IN THE CIP WHERE THIS WAS PRESENTED IN MAY WOULD IDENTIFY EACH CAR NUMBER, THE AMOUNT OF MILEAGE THAT WAS ON IT, AND THE CORRESPONDING.

IT'S NOT IN THIS BUDGET BOOK. BUT IF YOU GO BACK TO THE BOOK THAT WAS PRESENTED IN MAY, IT SHOULD IDENTIFY IN THE WORK PAPERS WHICH ONE OF THOSE VEHICLES THAT ARE UNDER THE REPLACEMENT PROGRAM AND THE INDIVIDUAL COSTS FOR THEM.

I APPRECIATE THAT, AND I'VE GOT THAT WITH ME AND I THINK I LOOKED, BUT LET'S BE SURE.

OKAY. THANK YOU. BUT I DO HAVE THAT WITH ME. THANK YOU.

OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? VICE MAYOR. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. CHIEF. JUST A COUPLE OF QUICK COMMENTS HERE.

THE STATE INSURANCE TAX. IT'S REFERENCED AS THE STATE INSURANCE TAX IN SOME OF THE DOCUMENTS.

BUT IN OUR BUDGET, I THINK IT'S REFERENCING SOMEBODY.

CORRECT ME AS THE STATE INSURANCE PREMIUM AND IT'S A $900,000 BUDGETED ITEM.

WHAT IS THAT? SO WHAT OCCURS IS, IS THE STATE HAS MADE A DECISION TO A PORTION OF THE TAX COMES BACK TO POLICE AND FIRE.

IT'S BASED ON THE TYPE OF INSURANCE I THINK ONE IS RISK, ONE IS FIRE.

I'M NOT I DON'T WANT TO SAY EXACTLY, BUT IN EITHER CASE IT COMES BACK IN.

IT'S EARMARKED. THERE'S A CHECK TWICE A YEAR FOR FIRE AND A CHECK TWICE A YEAR FOR POLICE, THE POLICE UNIONS. NOW, THEY COULD HAVE NEGOTIATED MANY, MANY YEARS AGO TO HAVE THIS AS A DIRECT SALARY.

THOSE THE UNIONS, POLICE AND FIRE HAVE SIGNED OFF THAT THAT ALLOCATION GOES TO A PENSION OFFSET.

SO WHEN YOU SEE ACTUARIAL YOU'LL SEE WHAT'S THE CITY'S REQUIRED CONTRIBUTION.

AND THEN YOU HAVE AN INSURANCE CONTRIBUTION THAT REDUCES WHAT WE HAVE TO NET PAY.

THAT BEING SAID THOUGH, WE HAVE TO BOTH RECOGNIZE THE REVENUE THE STATE IS GOING TO KICK TO US AND WE HAVE TO RECOGNIZE THE EXPENSE.

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SO THE STATE INSURANCE TAX IS BOTH AN INCOME AND AN EXPENSE AND AN EXPENSE OF EQUAL AMOUNTS AND EXPENSE.

OKAY. YES, SIR. NUMBER TWO, THE INITIAL DISCUSSION ON AI AND CYBER CRIMES SPECIALIST.

I THINK I HEARD YOU SAY THAT IT'S A HAT THAT SOME OF OUR PEOPLE WEAR IN ADDITION TO OTHER DUTIES.

YES, SIR. YEAH, WELL, YOU'RE GETTING AWAY. NO MORE AND MORE, THOUGH.

YES. THE MORE WE'RE ABLE TO PUT THINGS IN THE RIGHT PROGRAMS. TO USE THE PHRASE, WITH THE RIGHT PEOPLE IN THE RIGHT SEAT OF THE BUS KIND OF APPROACH AND THEN ALLOW THEM TO DO WHAT THEY DO.

WELL, WITHOUT HAVING TO WEAR SEVERAL DIFFERENT HATS.

AND THAT'S KIND OF WHERE OUR STRATEGIC PLAN IS, IS, IS GOING, BUT INCREMENTALLY.

BECAUSE IF YOU ONLY BUILD UP ONE END, YOU'RE DEFICIENT HERE.

SO PUT SOME GUYS IN THE TRAFFIC, PUT SOME FOLKS IN INVESTIGATIONS AND THEY'RE COMING UP LIKE LIKE THIS.

AND COUNCIL EYE IS MOVING FAST. WHAT WE MAY BE TALKING ABOUT I.

AND YOU THINK THAT, OH, IT'S GOING TO BE A COUPLE OF YEARS DOWN THE ROAD WHEN WE NEED TO DEAL WITH THAT.

THAT'S IN WHAT I'VE LEARNED IS THAT'S NOT THE CASE.

IT'S MOVING REALLY FAST. AND I SUPPORT CHIEF, YOU KNOW, I DON'T GET IN THE WEEDS ON WHAT'S COMING AND THE TREND AND THE THE TIME, RIGHT? YOU'VE ALREADY JUST TOLD US THAT THAT TIME IS INCREASING.

HOW A SPECIALIST IN THAT FIELD WOULD, WOULD BE APPROPRIATE.

AND SO MY ASK IS, PLEASE WE'RE ABOUT TO DO A BUDGET FOR A YEAR, RIGHT.

AND I CAN ASSURE YOU AT THE END OF THIS YEAR, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE THE SAME AS WHAT IT IS RIGHT NOW IN TERMS OF THE NEED.

SO IF WE NEED SOMETHING MORE, THEN WE NEED TO ADDRESS IT.

WHEN THE CHIEF SAYS WE NEED TO ADDRESS IT AND DON'T WAIT ON IT.

SO I'M CONCERNED. BUT I DO SUPPORT PROVIDING MORE DEDICATED, FOCUSED RESOURCES ON THAT JUST BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO TAKE A LITTLE BIT TO STAY UP WITH THE ADVANCES.

HERE'S HERE'S ONE. AUTONOMOUS VEHICLES BY THE END OF THIS YEAR AND NEXT YEAR.

AUTONOMOUS VEHICLES, DRIVERLESS VEHICLES. AND BY THE WAY, WE HAVE NO SAY IN THAT WE'VE BEEN PREEMPTED IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA RELATED TO AUTONOMOUS VEHICLES OPERATING IN OUR COMMUNITY. SO IF YOU THINK REAL CLEARLY IN A GRANULAR FASHION ABOUT AUTONOMOUS VEHICLES, WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO POSITION THEMSELVES WHERE THEY'RE WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO, HOW WE CITE THEM AND MANAGE THEM FROM A POLICING POINT OF VIEW.

THIS IS ALL STUFF THAT AN AI ENABLED OR A FOCUSED INDIVIDUAL COULD STAY UPON, BECAUSE THERE'S GOING TO BE RULES AND ALL KINDS OF NONSENSE RELATED TO IT. SO I'M CONCERNED ABOUT IT. I JUST WANTED TO POINT IT OUT.

I KNOW YOU ARE TOO, BY SOME OF YOUR STATEMENTS, BUT I'M MR. DICKMAN. IT'S ANOTHER ISSUE THAT WE BETTER GET OUR HANDS AROUND BECAUSE TALK TO AUSTIN, TEXAS, WHERE AND THEY'RE SAYING MILLIONS OF THESE VEHICLES JUST BY THE END OF THIS YEAR.

YEAH, YEAH. PRIMARILY PUSHED BY TESLA. FINALLY, I'M GOING TO SAY THIS AND I JUST I LOOKED AT YOUR BUDGET AND YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBER OF ITEMS BEFORE I SAY THIS, MR. YOUNG. HOW DOES THE CITY PAY FOR THE EXPENSES RELATED TO PROVIDING THE FINEST POLICE FORCE IN THE COUNTRY FROM A HIGH LEVEL? WHAT IS THAT REVENUE STREAM THAT PAYS FOR MAINTAINING THE POLICE FORCE THE WAY WE NEED TO IN THE COUNTRY OR FOR THE CITY? OH, THEY'RE. NO. THEY'RE THE FINEST IN THE COUNTRY.

HOW DOES THE CITY HOW DOES HOW DOES THE CITY.

YEAH. HOW DOES THE CITY PAY? I MEAN, OSTENSIBLY THE THE PROPERTY TAXES AND WHAT? THAT'S WHAT I NEED HERE. YES, SIR. SO FOR THE COMMUNITY AND FOR COUNCIL.

HE JUST SAID THE PROPERTY TAXES. THERE ARE EFFORTS UNDERWAY AT THE FLORIDA STATE LEGISLATURE WHICH, IF PASSED, WOULD RESULT IN A DECREASE IN OUR PROPERTY TAXES AND THEREFORE A REDUCTION IN THE FUNDS USED FOR

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BUT WE'RE APPROVING BUDGETS AND IN COVERING FUNDS THAT STRETCH BEYOND THIS YEAR, IF THIS LEGISLATURE EFFORT GOES, IT WOULD BE EFFECTIVE IN 2020 7TH JANUARY OF 2027.

DON'T WANT TO GET IN THE WEEDS ON IT. THERE'S THERE'S A TIME FOR THAT LATER TODAY.

BUT, CHIEF, I LOOKED AT LP'S VEHICLES. THERE'S 750,000.

IF YOU HAD A BUNCH OF THE VEHICLES UP. AXON EQUIPMENT, MARINE VESSEL REPLACEMENT, PORTABLE RADIOS.

THE LIST GOES ON AND ON. SO I WANTED TO BRING THAT TO YOUR ATTENTION.

THE QUESTION I NEED TO ASK PEOPLE, BECAUSE IF WE'RE LOOKING AT A REDUCTION IN PROPERTY TAXES, REVENUES, ARE THESE THE TYPE OF EXPENSES RELATED TO YOUR DEPARTMENT WHICH ARE NOT IN YOUR CONTROL? NOT REALLY. BECAUSE YOU CAN'T JUST RUN A CAR UNTIL IT DROPS, CAN YOU? YOU CAN'T USE RADIOS THAT HAVEN'T BEEN UPDATED.

YOU HAVE TO HAVE REPLACEMENT STUFF. BUT ARE THESE EXAMPLES OF EXPENSES NOT UNDER YOUR CONTROL THAT CONTINUE TO GO AND GO AND GO? IN ORDER TO BE EFFECTIVE? AND THEY'RE REALLY NOT IN OUR CONTROL AS MUCH AS WE ARE ON THE BLOODY EDGE OF TECHNOLOGY.

RIGHT. AND SO TECHNOLOGY KEEPS TO MOVING ON. LIKE THE RADIOS THEMSELVES ARE PHENOMENAL.

THE ABILITY FOR SOMEONE TO WEAR A BODY WORN CAMERA, AND B SEARCHING A HOUSE AND HIS SUPERVISOR GOING ON AND SEEING WHAT HE'S SEEING AND SHE'S SEEING IN REAL LIFE. TIME IS HUGE. BUT ALL THAT STUFF COSTS AND IT COSTS AND COSTS.

SO YEAH, IT'S NOT IN OUR CONTROL. THEY'LL INVENT THE NEW NEXT THING.

YEAH. AND WE'LL NEED THAT IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THE LEVEL OF SERVICE THAT PEOPLE DESERVE.

AND IT JUST KEEPS GOING UP. SO YOU JUST SAID FOR THE COMMUNITY, OUR POLICE CHIEF JUST SAID THERE ARE EXPENSES THAT ARE NOT IN HIS CONTROL, IS THERE? SO I RECOGNIZE THAT. SO IS IT ALSO TRUE THAT THERE'S NO CAP ON YOUR EXPENSES, THE EXPENSES TO RUN YOUR DEPARTMENT ON THINGS LIKE THIS? IF YOU HAVE NO CONTROL, THERE IS NO CAP. IS THAT ACCURATE? YEAH, I THINK TO IT PHILOSOPHICALLY, YES. THE CAP THAT WHAT I CAN EXERCISE BEING FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE IS TO SAY, YOU KNOW, WHAT DO I NEED FIRST FOR MOST NOW? AND CAN I GET ANOTHER MINUTE OUT OF THIS PARTICULAR RADIO SYSTEM? AND BUT THE COST THEMSELVES ARE OUT OF OUR HANDS.

IT'S A MATTER OF PRIORITY, YOU KNOW. CAN I MAKE A PRIORITY ON DECISIONS ON WHAT EQUIPMENT OR THINGS WE NEED NEXT SO THAT WE CAN CONTROL IT TO THE POINT OF OF WHEN AND WHERE WE NEED TO ASK FOR? BUT I DON'T ON THE ON THE SUPPLY SIDE, WE CAN'T CONTROL THE COST.

THEY, THEY THEY GOT THE COST. YEAH. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. MADAM MAYOR, THERE'S A COUPLE OF POINTS OF CLARITY I WANT TO MAKE. JUST UNPACK A LITTLE BIT.

FIRST, THIS IS A BUDGET. AND YOUR CONCERN WITH THEM DOING AWAY WITH PROPERTY TAXES IN TALLAHASSEE IS GREAT.

THERE'S A THERE'S A SPECIFIC MOVEMENT STUDY. I KNOW THAT WE NEED TO DISCUSS THAT.

YES, BUT MY ONLY POINT IS I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY A COUPLE THINGS.

ONE, WE'RE NOT ENCUMBERED ANYTHING AND WE'RE NOT OBLIGATING MULTIPLE YEARS BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT TO DO THAT.

SO I JUST WANTED TO LEVEL SET THAT. SO WHEN THIS SLIDES UP THERE, THIS IS A PLAN FOR MULTIYEAR SPENDING OF EQUIPMENT AND THINGS YOU NEED.

THE ONLY OTHER THING I WANT TO SAY IS THIS IS THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT.

THIS MEANING THIS IS OUR TAX AMOUNT IS NOT RELATED TO PROPERTY FOR EVERYTHING WE DO.

CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT BECAUSE YOU DO IN THIS COUNCIL HAS HISTORICALLY DONE A VERY GOOD JOB OF TAKING OUR PUBLIC SERVICE TAX DOLLARS, SETTING THEM ASIDE FOR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT AND THEN TAKING FOR PERSONNEL AND OPERATIONS AND OTHER RELATED THINGS.

SO SO I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERN AND I HAVE AN EQUAL ONE.

I JUST WANTED TO LEVEL SET THOSE TWO THINGS, AND THAT THESE OPERATIONAL CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT REQUESTS COME OUT OF THE PUBLIC SERVICE TAX, AND ONLY ONE YEAR IS SET IN STONE BECAUSE THIS COUNCIL CAN OBLIGATE ANYTHING MORE THAN THE BUDGET THAT IT'S OBLIGATING WHEN IT PASSES THIS.

SO I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY AND DON'T MISUNDERSTAND ME, I WASN'T SAYING ENCUMBER FUNDS FOR FUTURE YEARS IN THIS DEPARTMENT.

THERE THERE'S ALREADY BEEN A FEW DEPARTMENTS COME PAST US HERE AND WE'LL GET INTO THE DETAILS OF WHAT I MEANT.

BUT I ALSO JUST WANTED FOR BECAUSE IT WAS BROUGHT UP IN THIS SLIDE, I WANTED ANY YEAR BEYOND 25.

26 IS NOT BEING PART OF THIS BUDGET. IT'S MORE OF A WISH LIST PROSPECTIVELY.

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MISS PENMAN JUST I'VE GOT THEM, CHIEF. AND THEY RAN FROM 52,000 UP TO ABOUT 70,000.

OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MY MY MISTAKE. THANK YOU.

NO WORRIES. AND THEN JUST FOR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT THINK THAT WE HAVE A POLICE NEW POLICE STATION IN THIS BUDGET, DO YOU WANT TO CLARIFY THAT, CHIEF? NO. WE DON'T. AND SO AGAIN, IT'S DO WE NEED A POLICE STATION IN THE FUTURE? ABSOLUTELY. AND I THINK IT GOES BACK TO BEING GOOD STEWARDS OF OF OF WHAT WE HAVE IN FRONT OF US.

AND SO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT IS IN GREATER NEED THAN WE ARE IN THIS REGARD.

AND THEN WHEN THEY'RE DONE WE'LL APPROACH AND WE'LL SIT DOWN WITH THE CITY MANAGER AND LOOK AT THAT.

BUT WE WILL MAKE DO WHERE WE ARE. AND WE ARE, WE ARE HYPER FOCUSED, TO USE A TERM, AND GETTING OURSELVES COMBAT READY, IF YOU WILL. BOTH IN TECHNOLOGY AND EQUIPMENT AND THOSE THINGS.

BECAUSE WE DO HAVE AN IDEA THAT THE THE THINGS THAT COME AHEAD WE NEED TO BE PREPARED FOR.

AND SO THAT COMES WITH HIRING THE RIGHT MEN AND WOMEN AND GIVING THEM THE RIGHT TRAINING, GIVING THEM THE RIGHT TOOLS AND TECHNOLOGY AND WILL MAKE DO WITH THE BUILDING.

UNTIL THAT TIME COMES THAT WE'RE READY FINANCIALLY AS A CITY TO GO INTO THAT.

BUT OTHERWISE, I MEAN, I COULDN'T IMAGINE SITTING WHERE YOU ARE AT AND SAYING, WE'RE GOING TO FIX EVERYTHING IN THE CITY FROM HEAD TO TOE.

THERE'S A THERE IS NOT ENOUGH MONEY FOR ALL OF THAT.

AND THERE'S A LOT OF STUFF TO FIX. SO WE HAVE NO PROBLEM WAITING.

BECAUSE WE REALLY WANT TO FOCUS ON ATTRACTING AND KEEPING THE RIGHT PEOPLE AND TRAINING THEM.

AND AND THEN WHEN WE'RE READY ECONOMICALLY MOVE INTO A BUILDING.

AND I DON'T KNOW, IS THAT TWO YEARS? THREE YEARS? I DON'T KNOW. THANK YOU. AND WITH THAT BEING SAID, THANK YOU FOR ACCOMPLISHING ALL THAT YOU JUST MENTIONED.

THANK YOU. WE HAVE GREAT PEOPLE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

OKAY, COUNCIL. WE'RE IN NEED OF A BREAK, SO WE WILL RETURN AT 1130.

THANK YOU. WE'RE IN. OKAY. WE'RE BACK FROM OUR BREAK ON OUR BUDGET WORKSHOP.

COUNCIL MEMBER PENMAN HAD SOMETHING FOR THE CLERK.

MADAM CLERK. COUNCIL. I BELIEVE THIS MORNING WHEN I ISSUED MY APPROVAL, I INCORRECTLY SAID BUDGET. I NEEDED TO SAY AND MEAN TO SAY. I APPROVE THE AGENDA FOR THIS MORNING AS A CORRECTION TO THE CLERK.

SO SORRY ABOUT THAT. THANK YOU. I INTERPRETED IT THAT WAY, AND SO WE'RE FINE.

MADAM CLERK YES, WE ARE, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OKAY. WE'RE CONTINUING ON OUR BUDGET WORKSHOP WITH FIRE AND CHIEF.

GOOD MORNING. YEAH. GOOD MORNING. MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL PHILIP PENNINGTON, FIRE CHIEF.

SO WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS OUR BUDGET. STARTING OFF WITH SOME OF THE ACCOMPLISHMENTS FROM LAST YEAR.

WE FORMED THE COMMITTEE TO CREATE AND COMPLETE OUR FIVE YEAR STRATEGIC PLAN.

PLAN. OUR PORTABLE RADIOS WERE DEPLOYED. THAT ENHANCES OUR COMMUNICATION CAPABILITIES BOTH WITH COMMAND STAFF LEVEL AND OPERATIONS PERSONNEL.

FIRE RESCUE CREATED AND FILLED TO MUCH NEEDED POSITIONS IN THE COMMAND STAFF, A LOGISTICS CHIEF AND AN EMS TRAINING CHIEF.

OPERATIONAL STAFFING INCREASED BY TWO PERSONNEL PER SHIFT, SO TOTAL SIX RESULTING IN RESULTING IN A TOTAL OF SIX NEW FIREFIGHTER POSITIONS THIS YEAR.

FIRE RESCUE INITIATED AND EXECUTED A PLAN TO COLLABORATE WITH AN INDEPENDENT SERVICE PROVIDER TO MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF NFPA 1851 FOR THE MAINTENANCE OF OUR FIREFIGHTERS BUNKER GEAR. AND THEN LAST BUT NOT LEAST, OF COURSE, WE HAVE A WE HAVE A SELECTION COMMITTEE CHOOSING A DESIGN AND ARCHITECTURE FIRM FOR THE NEW FIREHOUSE. NUMBER TWO. THIS NEXT SLIDE REALLY IS JUST A QUICK RUNDOWN OF WHAT OUR OUR POSITIONS ARE BETWEEN OPERATIONS AND ADMINISTRATION. NUTS AND BOLTS. REALLY? FOR 2526, OUR PROPOSED BUDGET FOR THE FIRE RESCUE DEPARTMENT IS 18.9, WHICH IS AN INCREASE OF 2.6 OVER THE 2425 ADOPTED BUDGET.

THE LARGEST EXPENDITURE OF THE PROPOSED BUDGET FOR THE FIRE RESCUE DEPARTMENT IS OUR PERSONNEL SERVICES, WHICH IS A LITTLE OVER 17 MILLION. OPERATING EXPENSES ARE AT 1.6, WHICH INCREASED 178 ALMOST 179,000.

THIS IS MAINLY DUE TO THE CURRENT INFLATION SEEN FOR THE GOODS AND SERVICES ACROSS THE COUNTRY.

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AGAIN JUST KIND OF LAYING OUT IN AN ORDER. SO YOU CAN SEE HOW EVERYTHING KIND OF LAYS OUT TO REACH OUR TOTAL.

SO AGAIN OUR BUDGET INCREASE OF 2.6, WHICH IS ABOUT 16% OVER LAST YEAR'S BUDGET.

CIP IP. THERE WERE TWO THINGS THAT WERE ADDED AND THAT WAS NOT REALLY ADDED.

THEY WERE JUST IN DIFFERENT LINES AND WERE PULLED OVER TO GO INTO CIP BECAUSE THEY ACTUALLY FELL INTO THOSE FELT BETTER INTO ACTUAL CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS.

AND THAT WAS OUR OUR LUCAS CHEST COMPRESSION DEVICES.

WE'RE GETTING TWO OF THOSE. AND THEN AGAIN, THE PERSONAL PROTECTIVE EQUIPMENT REPLACEMENT.

AND THAT WAS IT. STRAIGHTFORWARD. THANK YOU. COUNSEL.

ANY QUESTIONS? NOPE. WELL, THAT WAS EASY. YEAH, THAT WAS EASY.

YEAH. THANK YOU. GREAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I'LL GET OUT OF HERE. WHAT A GOOD, NICE BUDGET.

NO, I WASN'T. I WASN'T EVEN READY. SO WE ARE MOVING TO OUR PLANNING BUDGET. GOOD MORNING, MISS MARTIN.

GOOD MORNING. WE HAVE A BUDGET PRESENTATION FOR YOU.

PRETTY EASY ONE. WE ARE ACTUALLY DECREASING THE BUDGET FOR THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT OF A NET DECREASE OF 414,697.

THAT IS MOSTLY DUE TO A DECREASE IN THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES LINE ITEM.

THAT WAS BECAUSE LAST, LAST YEAR WE HAD BUDGETED FOR THE COMP PLAN.

IT WAS A $500,000 BUDGET FOR THE COMP PLAN THAT'S ENCUMBERED, SO WE DON'T NEED TO MOVE THAT FORWARD THIS YEAR.

SO WE'RE DROPPING PROFESSIONAL SERVICES 450,000.

JUST BECAUSE THAT PROJECT HAS ALREADY BEEN A COMP WILL NOT FINISH, BUT IT'S BEEN PAID FOR.

WE DO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF AN INCREASE. WE HAVE AN INCREASE IN PRINTING AND BINDING THAT IS NOTICING FEES.

SO THAT'S NOT ONLY THE MAILED NOTICES THAT GO OUT TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 1000FT, BUT ALSO THE SIGNS THAT ARE PLACED ON THE PROPERTIES.

WE ALSO HAVE AN INCREASE IN EQUIPMENT RENTAL, THAT IS THE FOLDING MACHINE FOR OUR NOTICES.

IT'S ONLY AN INCREASE IN 2000. AND THEN ALSO REPAIR AND MAINTENANCE.

THAT'S AN INCREASE IN ABOUT 1700. AND THAT'S CITY VIEW.

SO THAT'S THE ONGOING MAINTENANCE CONTRACT THAT WE HAVE WITH CITY VIEW.

SO THE TOTAL BREAKDOWN AS USUAL IN OUR DEPARTMENT, ABOUT 80% IS JUST PERSONNEL.

SO SALARIES AND BENEFITS. AND THE REMAINING WOULD BE OUR OPERATING EXPENDITURES.

YOU CAN SEE HERE THE BREAKDOWN OF THE DECREASES IN INCREASES THAT I JUST EXPLAINED.

SO YOU CAN SEE THE DECREASE IN PROFESSIONAL SERVICES. AGAIN, THAT'S DUE TO THAT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN PROJECT THAT IS DROPPED DOWN.

WE ARE STILL BUDGETING SOME MONEY IN THAT FOR A COUPLE OF ONGOING PROJECTS.

WE HAVE THE CONTINUING UPDATE OF THE DRB HANDBOOK.

SO FIRST IS GETTING THE ILLUSTRATIONS FROM AN ARCHITECT.

AND THEN ONCE THAT IS FINALIZED AND THE HANDBOOK HAS BEEN APPROVED, WE WILL SEND THAT OFF TO LIKE A GRAPHIC DESIGN TYPE OF FIRM TO PACKAGE THAT INTO A FULL HANDBOOK. AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE, YOU CAN SEE REPAIR AND MAINTENANCE IS FOR THE CITY.

VIEW RENTAL EQUIPMENT BEING THE FOLDING MACHINE MAY PUT THE ACTUAL NUMBER OR NAME OF THAT FOLDING MACHINE IN THE FUTURE, AND THEN PRINTING AND BINDING AS THE NOTICES. SO WE DO SEND OUT QUITE A FEW NOTICES PER YEAR.

I THINK WE PROVIDED A NUMBER FOR YOU IN HERE, SO I MAY INCLUDE IT IN HERE FOR YOU PLANNING A SET A RECORD.

SO IN THE LAST FISCAL YEAR, WE SENT OUT A RECORD NUMBER OF NOTICES.

MAY DID INFORM ME THAT SINCE WE PROVIDED THESE NUMBERS TO YOU IN THE LAST ROUND OF NOTICING, THAT NUMBER HAS INCREASED BY 7000. SO IN THE LAST MONTH'S PETITION CYCLE, WE SENT OUT 7000 MORE NOTICES THAN WHAT YOU SEE HERE.

SO WE WE HANDLE THAT INTERNALLY. WE HAVE A COUPLE OF OPTIONS HERE.

I THINK I PLUG THIS EVERY YEAR WE HAVE UP HERE SOME JURISDICTIONS, INSTEAD OF DOING THE NOTICING THEMSELVES, SOME JURISDICTIONS REQUIRE THAT PETITIONERS HANDLE THAT.

AND THERE'S NOW THAT IS MORE AVAILABLE ON THE COLLIER COUNTY PROPERTY APPRAISERS WEBSITE, YOU CAN RETRIEVE YOUR OWN ADDRESSES.

SO WE USED TO WORK WITH THE APPRAISERS OFFICE.

WE WOULD HAVE TO CONTACT THEM. THEY WOULD PROVIDE US THE ADDRESSES, AND THEN WE WOULD FILTER THEM AND PREPARE THEM FOR MAILING. NOW YOU CAN RETRIEVE THE ADDRESSES YOURSELF. SO MAY ACTUALLY WILL GO IN AND RETRIEVE ALL THOSE ADDRESSES AND PREPARE THOSE NOTICES.

SO THAT IS NOT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT ANYONE CAN DO ON THEIR OWN.

SO WE PLUG EVERY YEAR THAT IF PLANNING WASN'T PREPARING AND SENDING OUT ALL THOSE NOTICES, THAT WOULD SAVE US A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT, TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF TIME, WE DO RECOUP THAT.

WE WE CHARGE BACK 100 OR $1.50 PER NOTICE THAT WE SEND OUT, BUT THAT'S BACK CHARGE.

SO WE FRONT THAT COST AND THEN WE CHARGE THAT BACK.

BUT THE AMOUNT OF TIME IF YOU CAN IMAGINE PREPARING 7000 NOTICES PER MEETING.

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THE OTHER OPTION WE HAVE UP HERE IS THE OTHER CHUNK OF MONEY THAT GOES INTO OUR LEGAL NOTICING IS THE ADS THAT GO IN THE NAPLES DAILY NEWS.

SO I KNOW WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE CLERK'S OFFICE.

THERE'S AN OPTION NOW FOR ALL OF THOSE ADVERTISEMENTS TO BE PLACED ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE AND THE COUNTY'S WEBSITE INSTEAD OF IN THE THE PAPER.

SO THAT'S ANOTHER OPTION IF YOU THINK ABOUT ESPECIALLY GOING INTO THIS NEXT YEAR WHERE WE MAY BE ADVERTISING FOR THE COMP PLAN, THOSE ARE LARGE DISPLAY ADS. OUR ADVERTISING CAN GET VERY EXPENSIVE.

THAT'S ABOUT $1,000 PER AD. SO ON TOP OF EVERY MEETING.

SO WE PUBLISH EVERY MEETING, EVERY DRB MEETING, EVERY PLANNING ADVISORY BOARD MEETING, EVERY WORKSHOP.

EVERYTHING GETS PUBLISHED IN NAPLES DAILY NEWS.

SO THIS WAS JUST THE THE OPTION FOR IT TO BE DONE ON THEIR OWN.

THIS IS THE PERSONNEL SERVICES BREAKDOWN. YOU CAN SEE STAFFING WISE IN OUR DEPARTMENT A COUPLE CHANGES.

SENIOR PLANNER. WE HAVE FILLED THAT POSITION. SHE WILL BE BEGINNING ON SEPTEMBER 8TH.

SO WE HAVE A NEW SENIOR PLANNER STARTING FROM SHE'S COMING TO US AS A SENIOR PLANNER IN CORAL SPRINGS.

SO SHE'LL BE STARTING HERE IN SEPTEMBER. WE DO STILL THEN HAVE A PLANNER TWO POSITION TO FILL.

AND THE DEPUTY DIRECTOR POSITION AS WELL. SO WORKING ON FILLING THOSE.

WE ACTUALLY, OUR ZONING PLANS REVIEWER DID JUST RESIGN AS WELL.

HE GOT ACCEPTED TO SCHOOL, SO HE'S GOING BACK TO GET HIS DEGREE AT UF.

SO WE WILL NEED TO FILL THAT ONE. AND I THINK WE JUST POSTED THAT POSITION.

SO WE'LL BE FILLING THAT AS WELL. THIS IS IN PERSONNEL SERVICES.

THIS IS JUST A BREAKDOWN OF THE BUILDING PERMIT REVIEW, AS YOU KNOW, PLANNING.

WE DON'T FACILITATE THE BUILDING PERMITS. THAT'S ALL DONE THROUGH THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT, BUT WE ARE A REVIEWER ON ALL THE BUILDING PERMITS FOR ZONING COMPLIANCE.

SO WE DO HAVE THIS POSITION. THE ZONING PLANS MOVE, THE ZONING PLANS.

REVIEWER. THAT POSITION IS DESIGNATED TO TO DO THE MAJORITY OF THOSE REVIEWS, LARGER PROJECTS.

AND ANYTHING THAT WENT TO DESIGN REVIEW DOES GET REVIEWED BY THE PLANNERS.

SO WE HAVE A COUPLE PEOPLE LOOKING AT THOSE, BUT THIS IS A BREAKDOWN.

I DO WANT TO ALSO MENTION THAT IN THIS COLUMN FOR THIS 2025, THAT IS ONLY ACCOUNTED UP TO THE END OF JUNE.

SO THERE'S STILL THREE MONTHS THAT ARE NOT THREE MONTHS OF THE FISCAL YEAR THAT ARE NOT ACCOUNTED FOR IN THIS COLUMN.

SO THERE IS A DISCREPANCY HERE, BUT THAT'S THE REASON YOU HAVE ALL OF THE NUMBERS THROUGH THE OTHER ONES.

AND THEN SO THAT'S BUILDING PERMITS. AND THEN YOU CAN ALSO SEE OVER HERE THESE ARE THE PETITIONS THAT HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED FOR 2025.

AGAIN THAT'S ONLY THROUGH JUNE. SO THAT DOESN'T ACCOUNT FOR ANYTHING COMING OUT OF THE SUMMER RECESS.

AND THEN WE ALSO LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT IN ADDITION TO ALL OF THE PERMITS THAT ARE REVIEWED, SURVEYS ARE NOT ACCOUNTED FOR IN THIS NUMBER.

SO WE DO A SPOT AND A FINAL SURVEY FOR ALL NEW DEVELOPMENT.

SO ALL OF THOSE SURVEYS THAT COME IN ARE ALSO REVIEWED BY THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT.

SO YOU CAN SEE THE NUMBER DOWN HERE ABOUT 1100 SURVEYS.

AND THAT'S AS OF JUNE 30TH. AND THEN JUST UPDATES THINGS THAT HAVE HAPPENED SINCE LAST TIME I WAS UP HERE IN FRONT OF COUNCIL. THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE IS IN PROGRESS.

THAT WAS THE BIG KIND OF BIG TICKET ITEM FROM LAST YEAR'S BUDGET.

WE ARE STILL IN PHASE ONE, WHICH IS THE DATA COLLECTION AND ANALYSIS.

WE'RE COMING OUT OF THAT AS AS COUNCILS BACK IN SESSION, YOU'RE GOING TO START SEEING MOVING INTO PHASE TWO.

SO YOU'RE GOING TO START TO HAVE SOME DELIVERABLES TO REVIEW.

THE APPLICATION FEE INCREASE. SO WE DID UPDATE ALL OF OUR FEES FOR PETITIONS.

WE UPDATED THAT. IT WASN'T EFFECTIVE UNTIL APRIL OF THIS YEAR.

SO I DON'T HAVE GREAT NUMBERS FOR YOU BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T HAD ENOUGH TIME.

BUT I WOULD IN THE FUTURE BE ABLE TO PROVIDE YOU SOME NUMBERS ON HOW THOSE FEE INCREASES.

AND THAT WAS FOR PETITIONS. SO ANY, YOU KNOW, CONDITIONAL USES VARIANCES DESIGN REVIEW.

AND ONE OF THE BIG THINGS THERE WAS THAT ANYTHING THAT GOES TO A PUBLIC HEARING WOULD BE HAS A BASE FEE OF $1,000, AND THAT'S JUST FOR THE STAFF. TIME TO PREPARE AN AGENDA ITEM.

SO ALL OUTDOOR DINING. DESIGN REVIEW, ANYTHING THAT GOES IN FRONT OF IT UP FOR A PUBLIC HEARING ON AN AGENDA.

WE CREATED A NEW POSITION AND STAFFED THAT. THAT'S THE LONG RANGE SENIOR PLANNER.

THAT IS JEFF BRAMMER. YOU'LL BE SEEING HIM AS WE GET INTO THE COMP PLAN UPDATES.

HE'LL BE UP HERE IN FRONT OF YOU. THE DARBY HANDBOOK UPDATE IS IN PROGRESS.

LIKE WE SAID, THE STEP WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW IS THE HIRING AN ARCHITECT TO PROVIDE THE ILLUSTRATIONS.

AND ONCE WE HAVE THOSE ILLUSTRATIONS, THEN WE'LL BRING THAT BACK TO COUNCIL TO SEE AS A FULL PACKAGE.

IF YOU RECALL, WE APPROVED THE TEXT, BUT NOW WE NEED THE ILLUSTRATIONS.

AND THEN LAST, WE'RE STILL WORKING ON THAT DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEVELOPMENT REVIEW PROCESS IMPROVEMENTS.

SO THAT'S BEEN THE ONGOING PROCESS. I HEARD YOU GUYS WERE TALKING ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT WITH MR. BECKMAN IN THE BUILDING REVIEW. BUT WE'RE STILL IN THAT PROCESS, STILL MAKING CHANGES.

A LOT OF CHANGES HAVE BEEN MADE, BUT SOME OF THE BIGGER CHANGES WITH RESPECT TO THE PROCESS FOR PETITIONS IS STILL UNDERWAY.

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THANK YOU. I HAVE COUNCIL MEMBER BARTON. HELLO.

HELLO. HELLO. QUICK QUESTION ABOUT THE MAILINGS THAT THERE SEEMED TO BE.

YOU SUGGESTED THAT THERE'S SOME. A FAIR A DECENT AMOUNT OF TIME FROM STAFF IS BEING SPENT ON THE MAILINGS.

YES. NOW, YOU SAID THAT THERE A PORTION OF THAT IS BEING CONTRACTED OUT TO A THIRD PARTY.

ONLY THE THE ACTUAL MAILING ITSELF. WHAT WE WERE DOING BEFORE WAS SENDING THEM OVER HERE.

AND YOUR FINANCE, BECAUSE YOU HAVE A MAILING MACHINE OVER HERE IN CITY HALL WITH SPENDING HOURS RUNNING THEM THROUGH GETTING THE STAMP AND THEN MAILING THEM OUT? NO. IS THAT NOT AN ACTION THAT CAN BE ALSO BE CONTRACTED OUT? THAT'S WHAT WE'RE CONTRACTING OUT. THAT'S THE THIRD PARTY. SO WE PREPARE ALL THE NOTICES IN HOUSE, AND THEN WE SEND THEM TO A THIRD PARTY WHO THEN RUNS THEM THROUGH TO GET STAMPED AND PUTS THEM IN THE MAIL.

OKAY, SO THAT'S GOING TO BE SOMEONE THAT'S NOT ON OUR STAFF, SOMEONE THAT'S NOT ON OUR STAFF BECAUSE WE'RE CHARGING THAT BACK TO THE DEVELOPERS ANYWAY.

WE ARE. SO THAT'S THAT'S WHERE I WAS GOING WITH THAT.

LET'S CONTRACT EVERYTHING OUT. THE PREPARATION OF THE MAILING IS REALLY WHAT TAKES THE MAJORITY OF TIME.

I MEAN, THERE'S IT'S A COUPLE OF DAYS WHERE MAY IS WORKING, JUST FOCUSED ON THE MAILINGS.

OKAY. AND IS THAT THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN HAVE A THIRD PARTY DOING.

WE CAN. OKAY. SO IS THAT. THAT IS WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON.

THAT IS. YEP. OKAY. AWESOME. THAT'S THAT'S GOOD. THAT'S I DIDN'T HEAR THAT.

AND NOW NOW I KNOW. THANK YOU. I'M GLAD TO HEAR THAT.

THANK YOU ON THAT. CHRISTMAN. AND THEN KRAMER.

THANK YOU. I WANT TO GO BACK TO THE PERSONNEL SERVICES SLIDE, IF YOU COULD.

ERICA. SO JUST YOU SAID THE ZONING REVIEW PERSON JUST LEFT, AND YOU HAVE TO. AND BUT. AND ONE OF THESE OPEN SEATS HAS BEEN OPEN POSITIONS HAS JUST BEEN FILLED.

WHICH ONE WAS IT? THE SENIOR PLANNER. SENIOR PLANNER.

YEAH. SENIOR PLANNER HAS BEEN FILLED. SO. SO YOU HAVE THREE POSITIONS OPEN AT THIS POINT.

YES. OUT OF AND LET'S REMEMBER YOU ONLY HAVE EIGHT POSITIONS.

CORRECT. SO IT'S ALWAYS BEEN A THINLY STAFFED DEPARTMENT.

YES. AND I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN HAVING JUST TALKING TO MR. YOUNG AND PEOPLE IN HR, I KNOW THAT IT'S ALWAYS A CHALLENGE TO RECRUIT PEOPLE TO THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT.

AND YOU'VE BEEN YOU'VE LOST SOME PEOPLE TO THE PRIVATE SECTOR LOCALLY, AND WHICH OUR FRIENDS IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR WHO ARE ALSO COMPETITORS FROM THE STANDPOINT OF PERSONNEL, ALWAYS.

AND THAT'S JUST THE WAY IT WORKS. YOU CAN MAKE MORE MONEY THERE.

AND SO I KNOW IT'S BEEN A CHALLENGE TO RECRUIT NEW PEOPLE GIVEN SALARIES, AFFORDABILITY ISSUES, ETC. AND IT WORRIES ME IN TERMS OF A WORKLOAD ON THE DEPARTMENT AND JUST ONGOING WORKLOAD. ALTHOUGH I GUESS THE NUMBER OF DEVELOPMENT PETITIONS WE'RE GETTING HAS DROPPED OFF QUITE A BIT IN THE LAST SIX MONTHS, AS THE MARKET HAS SLOWED, THE NUMBER OF NEW DEVELOPMENTS HAVE DROPPED OFF.

BUT WHAT YOU'RE STARTING TO SEE NOW, AND THIS IS WE SEE THIS IN THIS CYCLE ALL THE TIME, IS YOU'RE GOING TO START TO SEE MORE RENOVATIONS OF EXISTING BUILDINGS AND OUTDOOR DINING AND LIVE ENTERTAINMENT AND THINGS THAT BUSINESSES CAN DO TO TO REFRESH AND KEEP GOING, ALTHOUGH NOT TO DIMINISH THE WORK GOING INTO OUTDOOR DINING AND LIVE ENTERTAINMENT, BUT DOESN'T REQUIRE THE SAME LEVEL OF WORK AS SITE PLANS AND THAT SORT OF THING.

RIGHT. BUT STILL. AND IS THERE ANYTHING THE THE WE WE CAN DO NOT JUST COUNCIL, BUT MANAGEMENT CAN DO TO HELP YOU IN TERMS OF THE RECRUITMENT OF THESE PEOPLE.

AND BECAUSE I, YOU KNOW, IT'S IT'S TAKING MONTHS AND MONTHS AND MONTHS FOR YOU TO FILL SOME OF THESE POSITIONS.

IT'S NOT THE ONLY PART OF CITY GOVERNMENT THAT HAS CHALLENGES WITH RECRUITMENT.

BUT I JUST WANTED TO ASK YOU, WHILE WE HAD YOU IN FRONT OF US, IT'S TOUGH.

WE'VE HAD A NUMBER OF INSTANCES WHERE WE'VE GOTTEN ALMOST TO THE FINISH LINE OF HIRING SOMEONE AND THEN LOST THEM TO, YOU KNOW, A PRIVATE SECTOR COMPETITOR OR SOMETHING.

I THINK IT'S THIS I DON'T WANT TO SAY SLOW DOWN, BUT THIS KIND OF WE'VE HAD A MINUTE TO TO PAUSE FOR A SECOND.

IT'S BEEN NICE BECAUSE IT'S GIVEN ME A LITTLE MORE TIME TO FOCUS ON THIS. YOU KNOW, FOR A WHILE I'VE BEEN DOING PETITIONS AND STUFF LIKE THAT, JUST TRYING TO KEEP US AFLOAT. SO I THINK THAT'S BUT YEAH, I THINK WE'RE JUST ALWAYS OUR, OUR COMPETITION. WE DO, YOU KNOW, SALARY STUDIES AND STUFF, BUT WE DO SALARY STUDIES AGAINST OTHER MUNICIPALITIES.

WE DON'T DO THAT AGAINST THE PRIVATE SECTOR. AND SO WHAT YOU'RE ALWAYS GOING TO DO IS WE'RE ALWAYS GOING TO BE COMPETING,

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YES, YES, WE ARE KEEPING UP WITH THE BUILDING PERMITS.

HAS BEEN IS THERE ANY THIRD PARTY? THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT HAS SOUGHT THIRD PARTY CONTRACTOR HELP OVER THE YEARS TO SUPPLEMENT INTERNAL STAFF. IS THAT POSSIBLE IN THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT AREA? WE HAVE TAKEN A COUPLE OF STEPS. ONE OF THE POSITION THAT'S NOT SHOWN ON HERE, BECAUSE IT'S NOT A FULL TIME FUNDED POSITION, IS WE WERE ABLE TO CREATE A PART TIME TEMPORARY POSITION IN PLANNING, AND WE GOT MARGARET BACK.

OH, DON'T TELL ME THAT'S A SECRET. BUT YEAH. SO WE'VE WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO GET HELP IN WAYS LIKE THAT.

SO I AGREE KIND OF A THIRD PARTY. YEAH. WELL NUFF SAID.

I JUST I THINK IT'S SOMETHING WE ALL SHOULD BE CONCERNED ABOUT.

THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL I HAD. MAYOR. THANK YOU.

COUNCIL MEMBER KRAMER, MY COLLEAGUES BROUGHT UP. BUT I WANT TO JUST TRY TO GET OUR WAY OUT OF THIS.

I DON'T THINK IT WOULD BE TOUGH ON YOU. I DON'T WANT TO ADD TO YOUR PLATE, PLIGHT, BUT WHAT'S TO FIGURE OUT? THE DELTA BETWEEN WHAT THE PRIVATE PAYS AND WHAT WE PAY AND THEN FIND TRY TO FIND A WAY TO DIMINISH THAT.

I THINK IT'S HARD. I THINK WHEN YOU'RE COMPETING AGAINST THE PRIVATE SECTOR, YOU KNOW, WE DO A LOT OF INTERVIEWS AND THERE'S THE OPTIONS FOR REMOTE WORK OR FLEXIBLE SCHEDULES. I MEAN, THERE'S A LOT OF FACTORS THAT YOU'RE COMPETING WITH IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR THAT THAT ARE HARD TO COMPARE WHEN IT COMES TO, YOU KNOW, A GOVERNMENT JOB. SO BUT I MEAN, I COULD LOOK INTO THAT.

WELL, I USED TO I'VE SAID A LOT, IF YOU DO WHAT YOU'VE ALWAYS DONE, YOU'D BE WHERE YOU'VE ALWAYS BEEN.

AND I FEEL LIKE THAT'S WHERE WE ARE SINCE I CAME ON COUNCIL WITH THIS.

AND IT'S NOT ACCEPTABLE. WE'VE GOT TO GET YOU STAFFED.

IT'S YOU'RE 40% DOWN OR WHATEVER. THAT'S NOT IT'S NOT SUSTAINABLE.

IT'S NOT ACCEPTABLE. AND WHATEVER WE HAVE TO DO TO FIX THAT, WE NEED TO DO THAT. IT NEEDS TO BE A PRIORITY. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS GOING FORWARD, BUT I THINK THE START IS MAYBE THIS IS FOR COMMUNICATIONS, IS FINDING OUT WHAT THAT DELTA IS AND FINDING WHAT WE CAN DO TO INCENTIVIZE THAT DEPARTMENT, IF NOTHING ELSE. IF MY COLLEAGUES HAVE CONSENSUS WITH THAT AND THEN THE ON.

SO IT SEEMS THE TWO THINGS THAT YOU'RE PITCHING AGAIN ARE ONLINE ADVERTISING, WHICH WE AREN'T DOING.

WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO TO DO THAT. WELL HOW DO WE FLIP THAT SWITCH.

I THINK MAYBE WHEN THE CLERKS TURNS UP HERE, I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE STATE NOW ALLOWS YOU TO DO.

INSTEAD OF ADVERTISING IN A LOCAL NEWSPAPER, YOU'RE ABLE TO DO THAT ON A CITY AND COUNTY WEBSITE.

SO I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT SHE'LL TALK TO YOU ABOUT, BUT WE JUST WANTED TO THROW THAT IN AS SUPPORT ON OUR END, BECAUSE WE ALREADY MADE A LOT OF AGENDA THAT WE ALREADY AGREED TO THAT IN THE SPRING WITH THE THE CLERK PRESENTED THAT, WE ADDED THE YOU ADDED THE COUNTING, BUT I BELIEVE SHE'S STILL DOING BOTH ON AND I'M NOT SURE WHEN SHE HER DURATION TO FLIP THAT SWITCH, BUT I BELIEVE WE'RE STILL DOING. I THOUGHT I THOUGHT WE'D I THOUGHT THAT WAS DONE. AND THEN SAME WITH THE MAILING HAVING JUST LIKE, WHAT ARE WE DOING? HOW DO YOU ACCESS THEM? WELL, THE OUTDOOR YOU SAID WE'RE ALLOWED TO HAVE THEM DO IT THEMSELVES, ARE WE NOT? YOU ARE. WHY AREN'T WE DOING THAT? WE'VE NEVER HAD CONSENSUS AGREEMENT. BUT WHAT DO WE HAVE TO DO TO DO THAT? TELL ME THAT. THAT'S OKAY. OKAY, WELL, I THINK WE SHOULD ADDRESS.

THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS WITH THAT ONE. AND I'M.

I WASN'T WHEN YOU HAD THAT CONVERSATION LAST TIME.

I WASN'T SITTING IN THIS CHAIR, BUT I RECALL.

HOW DO WE GUARANTEE THAT OUR CITIZENS WERE BEING NOTIFIED? AND THERE WAS SOME. SO I WOULD SAY AN INTERMEDIATE STEP IS FIRST OF ALL AND TALK PUT A POLITICAL HAT ON YOU.

AND I KNOW I CAN DRAFT A MAILER AND HAVE IT SENT TO 2 OR 3 VOTERS THAT WHATEVER, YOU COULD DO A MAILING SERVICE TO DO ANYTHING YOU WANT TO DO WITH A FORM LETTER.

SO I'D RATHER EXPLORE TO SAY, CAN WE HAVE SOMEBODY WHO CAN DO THIS SERVICE FOR US, CHARGE IT BACK, GUARANTEE THAT WE ARE AN INTERMEDIATE THAT COMPLIES WITH YOUR CONCERNS LAST TIME BEFORE WE JUST ABANDON IT AND SAY, AND YOU'RE ON YOUR OWN, PROVE TO ME YOU DID IT, I THINK.

I THINK IT'S A IT'S KIND OF A MIDPOINT AND THEN MAYBE GO THE OTHER DIRECTION.

OBVIOUSLY IT NEEDS TO BE POLICED. YEAH. BUT WHEN YOU'RE UNDER STAFFED, THAT KIND OF STUFF.

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YEAH, I AGREE. JUST GOING TO THE THIRD PARTY, DRAFTING THE LETTER.

ALL THEY SHOULD HAVE TO DO IS HAND THE LETTER OFF AND IT SHOULD BE DONE RIGHT.

SO THAT'S. AND THAT'S ANOTHER JURISDICTIONS THAT I'VE HAD EXPERIENCE WITH YOU.

WE PROVIDE THE LETTER. YOU KNOW, IT'S FILLED OUT WITH THEIR SPECIFIC INFORMATION AND THEN HAND THAT OVER TO THEM.

AND THEN THEY HAVE TO PROVIDE, IN THE END, A COPY OF ALL OF THE ADDRESSES THAT THEY SENT THE LETTERS TO AND AN AFFIDAVIT THAT THEY SIGN.

I'M ALL FOR IT. THANKS. THANK YOU. VICE MAYOR? YES. LET ME SEE. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. ERICA, GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN AFTER SUCH A LONG BREAK, AND CERTAINLY APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK YOU AND YOUR DEPARTMENT ARE DOING.

I WANT TO JUST DISCUSS A FEW ITEMS HERE THAT PROBABLY RELATIVELY EASY QUESTIONS FOR YOU.

THE CHART THAT THE CITY SEES ON THE SCREEN RIGHT NOW.

AND COUNCILMAN KRAMER, I THINK, SPOKE TO IT. WE SEE AN INDICATION HERE OF OF SENIOR LEVEL POSITIONS.

IT SEEMS I'M USING THE WORD SENIOR, BUT KEY EMPLOYEE.

NOT THAT EVERYBODY IS IN A KEY EMPLOYEE, BUT THIS.

ARE THERE MORE PEOPLE THAT REPORT TO YOU THAN WHAT I SEE ON THIS SCREEN RIGHT NOW, OR IS THIS IT? THIS IS THE WHOLE PLANNING DEPARTMENT, OKAY. AND EXCEPT THE ONE TEMPORARY PART TIME, BUT YEAH.

OKAY. THERE'S EIGHT POSITIONS, INCLUDING YOU AND THE.

THERE'S THREE OPENINGS OUT OF THE EIGHT, AND THE SENIOR PLANNER SLASH LONG RANGE IS ON BOARD NOW OR NOT IS ON BOARD. EVERY ONE OF THESE ARE ON BOARD.

YEAH. IF THERE'S A NAME THERE, THEY'RE ON BOARD EXCEPT FOR THE ZONING PLANS REVIEWER, BECAUSE THAT JUST ENDED ON FRIDAY.

OKAY. AND YOU'RE BUDGETING FOR TWO SENIOR PLANNERS.

AND THAT IS SO THE SENIOR PLANNER LONG RANGE IS NOT ONE OF THOSE TWO SENIOR PLANNERS.

IT IS THE TWO SENIOR PLANNERS THAT WERE BUDGETING ARE THE REGULAR SENIOR PLANNER WHICH WE HAVE JUST FILLED.

SHE HAS NOT BEGUN YET. AND THEN THE SENIOR PLANNER LONG RANGE.

AND THAT IS THE LONG RANGE FOCUS ON COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING TEXT AMENDMENTS THOSE OTHER.

SO I'M LOOKING AT THE PAGE 65. WHEN YOU SAY 2026 PROPOSED.

THAT'S HOW MANY PROPOSED POSITIONS? EIGHT POSITIONS.

YES. SO THAT EIGHT POSITIONS IS WHAT WE SEE HERE ON THE SCREEN.

NOW WHAT WILL. AND YOU HAVE THAT PERSON IN IN PLACE RIGHT NOW, BUT AND IT'S NEW.

IT'S A NEW POSITION. IT IS A NEW POSITION. YES.

OKAY. WHAT WILL A SENIOR PLANNER LONG RANGE BE FOCUSED ON ACCOMPLISHING CURRENTLY YOUR COMP PLAN UPDATE? THAT WILL BE THE PRIMARY STAFF LIAISON FOR THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

OBVIOUSLY I'M INVOLVED IN ALL OF IT AS WELL, BUT PRIMARILY THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE CURRENTLY.

AND THEN AS AS WE'RE NOT AS DEEP INTO THAT PROJECT, IT WOULD BE MORE OF THE PLANNING ADVISORY BOARD SIDE OF THINGS.

SO TEXT AMENDMENTS REZONING THOSE TYPES AND THAT'S IMPORTANT.

SO WORKING ON THE COMP PLAN NOT REACTING TO DAILY WORKLOAD.

RIGHT. SO NOT THE PETITION CYCLE THAT WE'RE THAT OTHER PLANNERS ARE IN THE CONDITIONAL USE OF THE VARIANCES, THE DAY TO DAY DRB STUFF, BUT MORE OF THE THE LARGER PROJECTS.

YEAH OKAY. THAT'S HELPFUL. SO THERE IS A PAGE FOR THE PUBLIC.

THERE'S A PAGE IN OUR BUDGET WORKBOOKS, PAGE 64.

AND IT'S IT DESCRIBES 265 PETITION TYPES. AND THE DOCUMENT IS TITLED THE 20 2526 PERFORMANCE MEASURES AND BENCHMARKING.

OKAY. AND THERE'S 30 DIFFERENT PETITION TYPES.

AND OF THOSE 30 THEY ADD UP TO 265 DIFFERENT PETITION TYPES.

WHICH OF THESE 30 DIFFERENT PETITION TYPES WILL TAKE THE TIME OF A SENIOR PLANNER? SO WHAT I KNOW SO FAR THOUGH IS THAT A SENIOR PLANNER LONG RANGE WON'T BE TOUCHING THIS, WHICH IS.

I'M HOPING THAT'S WRONG. SOME. OKAY, SO THERE'S IN THIS LIST YOU HAVE TEXT AMENDMENTS, YOU HAVE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENTS.

AND SO LET ME LET ME ASK THAT QUESTION BECAUSE WE JUST NEED TO KNOW OF THE 30 WHICH ONES WILL TOUCH A SENIOR PLANNER.

SO THE WAY WE HANDLE PROJECTS IN THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT IS WE HAVE A PROJECT IS HANDLED FROM START TO FINISH BY THE SAME PLANNER.

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SO THEY WOULD TAKE IT TO PRELIMINARY DESIGN REVIEW.

THEY WOULD TAKE IT THROUGH THE SITE PLAN PROCESS, THROUGH ANY OF THE ENTITLEMENTS THROUGH PAB AND COUNCIL.

AND THEN ON TO FINAL DRB. JUST SO THAT THAT ONE PERSON IS CONSISTENTLY HANDLING THAT PROJECT.

SO A SENIOR PLANNER WOULD BE DOING MORE OF THE LARGE, COMPLEX PROJECTS.

COULD YOU JUST QUICKLY GO DOWN THE LIST OF PETITIONS AND.

WELL, I'LL JUST CHECK THEM OFF. SURE. IT COULD REALLY BE ANYTHING.

THING. SO MEANING DEPENDING ON WHAT THAT INDIVIDUAL PROJECT REQUIRES, BECAUSE A NEW DEVELOPMENT MAY REQUIRE A VARIANCE, IT MAY REQUIRE A CONDITIONAL USE. IT MAY REQUIRE A REZONING.

GOT IT. SO IT REALLY DEPENDS ON THE PROJECT. BUT WHERE I WOULD NOT SEE A SENIOR PLANNER IS, YOU KNOW, A DESIGN REVIEW PETITION THAT DID NOT, WASN'T PART OF A REDEVELOPMENT PROJECT.

SO NEW AWNINGS OR A FACADE CHANGE THAT WOULD NOT BE AT THE SENIOR PLANNER LEVEL.

OKAY. AND THEN THAT'S THE SENIOR PLANNER. BUT THAT SENIOR PLANNER LONG RANGE WOULDN'T BE HANDLING THOSE.

RIGHT. RIGHT. WOULDN'T IT BE IN THAT PETITION CYCLE? THAT'S GOOD NEWS. THAT IS GOOD NEWS. AND THEN JUST A SIDE NOTE ON DOG DINING.

WHO HANDLES THAT? MAY. MOSTLY DOG DINING. WE DON'T GET A LOT OF REQUESTS.

AND IT'S AN ADMINISTRATIVE. IT'S REALLY A CERTIFICATE.

SOMEONE CAN APPLY FOR IT. AND AS LONG AS THEY AGREE TO MEET ALL THE PARAMETERS, WE ISSUE A CERTIFICATE AND THEY HAVE TO POST THAT ON THEIR PROPERTY.

THERE IS DOG DINING. YEAH. THAT'S INTERESTING.

OKAY. AND THEN RECOGNIZING THE UNDERSTAFFED POSITION THAT THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT IS IN, IF COUNCIL MADE A DECISION TO BRING FORWARD A PROJECT THAT TOOK SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF TIME IN CHANGING THE COMP PLAN OR THE FLU, THE FUTURE LAND USE, OR EVEN WORKING ON A REFERENDUM. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN HANDLE, OR IS IT TAX YOUR DEPARTMENT WITH ADDITIONAL WORK THAT YOU'RE REALLY NOT STAFFED TO HANDLE RIGHT NOW? I MEAN, ADDITIONAL PROJECTS WILL TAX AN ALREADY UNDERSTAFFED DEPARTMENT.

OKAY. JUST WORK MORE. THAT'S ALL I NEEDED. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER PENMAN.

YEAH, JUST A QUESTION. PLANNER TWO WOULD BE. COULD THAT BE A COLLEGE STUDENT? A COLLEGE GRAD, SO OR TWO. WE WOULD. I THINK OUR MINIMUM QUALIFICATIONS ARE FIVE YEARS OF PLANNING EXPERIENCE AND A RELATED DEGREE.

SO NOT WOULDN'T REQUIRE A MASTER'S, BUT A BACHELOR'S IN, YOU KNOW, PLANNING, PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION, SOME SORT OF RELATED DEGREE AND SOME EXPERIENCE.

SOME EXPERIENCE. VERY GOOD. THANKS. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I'M. I'M WITH KRAMER. I THINK THAT A LOT OF WORK HAPPENS IN YOUR DEPARTMENT WITH A VERY SMALL STAFF AND NOT COMPLETELY FILLED STAFF. SO WHENEVER HELP. I'VE SAID THIS, MANY OF US HAVE SAID IT.

WE'VE GOT TO GET THAT DEPARTMENT WORKING SO THAT YOU'RE NOT OVERWORKED.

YOU JUST MENTIONED YOU DO SURVEYS. HOW DO YOU DO A SURVEY IN THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT, IS THAT NOT.

I MEAN, SO WE IT'S WE DON'T DO THEM. WHAT HAPPENS IS WHEN SOMEONE IS, WE'LL SAY BUILDING A NEW SINGLE FAMILY HOME.

WHEN THEY POUR THEIR FOUNDATION, THEY SUBMIT TO US A SPOT SURVEY.

AND THAT WHAT HAPPENS IS THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED TO CALL IN WHAT WE CALL UPPER LEVEL INSPECTIONS.

SO ESSENTIALLY THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED TO GO VERTICAL WITH THE PROJECT UNTIL WE'VE APPROVED THE SPOT SURVEY.

SO THEIR SURVEYOR GOES OUT, SHOOTS THE FOUNDATION, AND WE REVIEW IT JUST TO MAKE SURE YOU'RE IN THE RIGHT SPOT BEFORE YOU BUILD THE HOUSE UP.

IT'S REALLY JUST IT'S NOT A REQUIREMENT AT ANY SORT OF BUILDING, YOU KNOW, THE BUILDING CODE OR ANYTHING.

IT'S MORE OF A COURTESY OR REQUIRED COURTESY THAT WE DO FOR THE BUILDERS JUST TO ENSURE THAT BEFORE YOU START BUILDING YOUR WALLS AND YOUR ROOF AND EVERYTHING, YOU'VE POURED YOUR FOUNDATION IN THE CORRECT LOCATION, I WOULD THINK THAT THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT WOULD BE DOING THAT, BUT I THINK IT'S BECAUSE WE'RE REVIEWING IT FOR IS ZONING.

SO WE'RE REVIEWING IT FOR SETBACKS AND HEIGHT ELEVATION.

SO THEY COME TO US AND FINAL SURVEYS. SAME. WE REVIEW FINAL SURVEYS AS WELL.

SO WHEN A JUST FOR EDUCATION, WHEN THE PROJECT IS DONE WE THEN REQUIRE ANOTHER SURVEY.

AND THAT WILL SHOW US THE ELEVATION OF YOUR RETAINING WALLS, THE ELEVATION OF YOUR POOL DECK. MAKE SURE THAT NOT ONLY WAS EVERYTHING BUILT IN THE RIGHT LOCATION, BUT TO THE CORRECT HEIGHTS, AND WE REVIEW THOSE AS WELL.

OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THAT. YES. QUICK. SO COUNCIL, WHAT WE JUST HEARD IS THAT THAT VERIFICATION IS A

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WE DO HAVE A BIT OF AN INTERESTING SITUATION WITH PRIVATE PROVIDERS, BECAUSE WE DON'T DO THOSE UPPER LEVEL INSPECTIONS ON A PRIVATE PROVIDER PROJECT.

SO I THINK WHERE YOU SEE A LOT OF THOSE DISCREPANCIES IS ON A PROJECT THAT IS PRIVATE PROVIDER.

YEAH. YEAH. I'M NOT GETTING IN THE WEEDS ON IT RIGHT NOW, BUT THERE'S A THERE'S A CONCERN AND MAYBE AN OPPORTUNITY THERE.

SO OTHER THAN MAKING SOMETHING A COURTESY TO VERIFY THAT THINGS ARE IN THE RIGHT PLACE THERE MAY BE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY RELATED TO THAT.

THANK YOU. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

I KNOW YOU'RE ACCUSTOMED TO GOING LAST, BUT AT LEAST I SAW IT FLASH UP ON THE SCREEN.

AND IT'S GOOD AFTERNOON. NOT GOOD EVENING. YES.

ALL RIGHT. OOPS. GOOD AFTERNOON. CHAD. MAYOR.

PARKS. RECREATION FACILITIES DIRECTOR. IN THIS CASE, THE COMMUNITY SERVICES DIRECTOR.

SO I'LL START WITH OUR GENERAL FUND STAFFING.

THIS SHOWS YOU AN OVERVIEW OF THE STAFFING THAT WE HAVE.

THE REDUCTION THERE OF POSITION, WHICH IS LANDSCAPE POSITION.

WE ARE NOT REQUESTING ANY ADDITIONAL POSITIONS AT THIS ARE IN THIS FISCAL YEAR, OUR GENERAL FUND REVENUE.

OUR PROJECTIONS RIGHT NOW ARE PROPOSED AT $1.2 MILLION.

THAT'S A REDUCTION OF 5.3%. THAT'S DUE, IN PART, SOME ADJUSTMENTS THAT WE MADE WHEN WE TOOK OVER WITH THE NORRIS CENTER.

AND AS WE'VE TRIED TO KIND OF MORPH THAT INTO WHAT THAT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE.

WE MADE THOSE ADJUSTMENTS SO THAT THEY WERE A LITTLE MORE IN THE ACTUAL AND, YOU KNOW, WITH THIS BEING OUR FIRST FULL YEAR, WE EXPECT THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO PROBABLY HAVE A COUPLE OF ADJUSTMENTS MAYBE IN THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR AS WELL.

SOME REVENUE. AND I PUT THIS THIS IS KIND OF LIKE A GOAL.

THIS ISN'T ASKING. THIS IS AN APPROVING. THIS IS SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT DOING TO TRY TO HELP WITH SOME OF THE, THE REVENUE AND AS WELL AS OFFSETTING SOME OF THE EXPENSES.

BUT YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO DO A FEE INCREASE WITH OUR LAST ADJUSTMENT WAS DONE IN 2019.

THAT'S THE RESOLUTION THAT YOU SEE THERE. WE ALSO HAVE AN ATHLETIC CONTRACT STRUCTURE THAT NEEDS TO BE REFORMATTED.

SOME OF THOSE CONTRACTS HAVE HAVE BEEN THEY WERE 25 YEAR CONTRACTS.

NOTHING WAS CHANGED. SO WE'RE AT A POINT WHERE WE'RE GOING TO BE BRINGING THAT THOSE BACK TO YOU ALL.

WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT RESTRUCTURING THE KIDS CAMP SO THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT THEY COVER THEIR COST, WHICH IS FOCUSING ON THE AGES 5 TO 13. THAT WILL HELP US KEEP THINGS CONSISTENT.

AND WHEN WE FEEL THAT YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD BE A BENEFIT.

SO WE WOULD WE'RE LOOKING IN THE FUTURE TO BE ABLE TO BRING THAT TO YOU ALL AS WELL.

ADD NEW PROGRAMS PER THE MASTER PLAN. SO ONCE THE MASTER PLAN IS COMPLETED, WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT THE RECOMMENDATIONS.

AND IF WE ADDED PROGRAMS, OUR GOAL WOULD BE TO DO THOSE IN HOUSE SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE CONTRACT INSTRUCTORS THAT WE ADD ON, WHICH IS AN EXPENSE, AND THEN WE SHARE THE REVENUE WITH THEM.

WE WOULD ALSO LOOK AT IMPROVING THE SPACES WHICH YOU ALL HAVE COMMITTED TO WHEN WHEN WE APPROVE THE CIP.

THAT HELPS US WITH KEEPING OUR FACILITIES UP TO DATE AND, AND SO THAT THEY LOOK PRETTY AND THEY, THEY FUNCTION THE WAY THAT THEY NEED TO. SO WE CAN INCREASE RENTALS.

WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT ONE OF THE CHALLENGES THAT I'VE GIVEN STAFF IS TO PURSUE MORE GRANTS TO HELP COVER SOME OF THE COSTS, AND WE'VE GOT A LIST OF THOSE THAT WE WILL BE PUTTING APPLICATIONS IN THIS YEAR, AS WELL AS IN YEARS MOVING FORWARD.

ALSO REVAMPED THE SPONSORSHIP FORMAT AND PUSHED THIS OUT FOR ALL OF OUR PROGRAMS AND EVENTS.

AND THEN ON THAT SAME LIGHT, ENSURING THAT THE PRIVATELY ORGANIZED EVENTS ARE COVERING THEIR COST AT 100%.

WE WOULD BE LOOKING TO TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT STRUCTURE IS IN PLACE, SO THAT MOVES US INTO OUR EXPENSE.

OUR GENERAL FUND BUDGET IS A LITTLE OVER FOUR POINT OR $14.5 MILLION, WITH RECREATION AT 4.4 MILLION,

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ADMINISTRATION AT 1.1 MILLION. WE'LL START OUT WITH THE ADMINISTRATION AT $1.1 MILLION.

THAT'S A 13.2% INCREASE. ABOUT $104,000. PERSONNEL SERVICES.

THE ADJUSTMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE THROUGH CONTRACTS AS WELL AS OUR EVALUATIONS, YOU'LL SEE THAT AS A TREND THROUGHOUT ALL OF OUR BUDGET AND OUR SECTIONS. SO THAT SHOWS AN INCREASE THERE OF $103,000.

EXCUSE ME. OPERATING EXPENSES. COMMUNICATIONS.

I ADDED THAT IN THERE BECAUSE I SAW THE THREE 384.2% INCREASE.

AND THIS IS AN ADJUSTMENT THAT WAS MADE TO ACTUALLY REFLECT THE ACTUALS.

THIS ADJUSTMENT HAS NOT BEEN WHAT MADE IN THE YEARS PAST.

SO IT WAS NOT COVERING ITS COST. SO WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT IT REFLECTED THE ACTUALS.

SO A COUPLE OF NOTABLE DECREASES THERE WITH THE EDUCATION REIMBURSEMENT AS WELL AS THE OPERATING EXPENSES AT $2,000.

AND THEN THAT WILL MOVE US INTO PARKS AND PARKWAYS MAINTENANCE AT $5.6 MILLION, WHICH $280,000 INCREASE, 5.2% IS TO INCREASE THEIR PERSONNEL SERVICES.

AGAIN, SAME THING AS WE DISCUSSED WITH THE PREVIOUS WITH ADMINISTRATION.

YOU'VE GOT ADJUSTMENTS MADE TO PERSONNEL SERVICES AS WELL AS THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES THERE.

WE'VE GOT A $10,000 INCREASE, BUT ONE THAT I DID WANT TO HIGHLIGHT AS THE HOLIDAY LIGHTS.

AND YOU'VE GOT CRA THERE. THAT WAS THOSE LIGHTS WERE PULLED OUT OF THE CRA.

NOT LAST YEAR BUT ACTUALLY LAST YEAR WAS THE FIRST YEAR.

AND THEY WERE KIND OF BURIED WITHIN THE OPERATING BUDGET.

SO WE'VE PULLED THAT OUT SO THAT YOU CAN SEE THAT AS IT IS AT $50,000.

AND THOSE LIGHTS GO TOWARDS FIFTH AVENUE AND THAT DISTRICT.

THAT'S IN ADDITION TO WHAT'S PUT IN FOR THE BID.

SO THAT'S A $50,000 CHARGE THERE. THAT. THAT WE HAVE SO THAT YOU ALL WILL SEE.

AND WHEN WE DO THAT EACH YEAR, YOU'LL KNOW WHERE IT COMES FROM.

OTHER CONTRACTUAL SERVICES THERE AT $108,000 INCREASE 3.9.

THAT'S TREE TRIMMING. WE HAD A 20% INCREASE AS WELL FOR SOME OF THE CONTRACTS.

WE ALSO ADDED SOME OF THE ADDITIONS FOR THE ADDED PARKING GARAGE.

SO THAT HELPS WITH LANDSCAPING AND SOME OF THE COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH PARKS AND PARKWAYS AND ADDING THAT FACILITY.

WE ALSO HAVE REPAIR AND MAINTENANCE THERE WITH AN INCREASE OF $25,000.

AND THAT'S TO TRY TO BRING SOME OF THE MEDIANS AND SOME OF THE AREAS THAT HAVE BEEN DESTROYED OVER THE STORM, WITH THE LAST THREE STORMS BACK UP TO PAR. AS WE CONTINUE TO PUSH FORWARD ON THAT, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THOSE THAT FUNDING TO GET US BACK TO THE LEVEL OF WHAT WE WANT IT TO BE.

SOME NOTABLE DECREASES, AND I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THE OPERATING EXPENDITURES THERE AT $82,000.

AND I WANT YOU TO REMEMBER THAT NUMBER WHEN WE GET A LITTLE BIT CLOSER.

BUT I'LL TELL YOU, THIS WAS REDUCED BECAUSE OF SOME SOME EXPENSES THAT WERE BURIED WITHIN THERE FOR THE DOG PARK.

SO WE'VE BROKEN THOSE EXPENSES OUT. WE PULLED IT OUT OF THERE.

WE PUT IT IN THERE. SO YOU'RE GOING TO SEE A NUMBER THAT SHOWS UP IN AS DOG PARK EXPENSES.

AND THAT'S A MAJORITY OF THAT IS WHERE THAT CAME FROM.

EQUIPMENT SERVICES. YOU'VE HEARD FROM EQUIPMENT SERVICES.

BUT WE DID HAVE SOME DECREASES THERE AS WELL.

FACILITY MAINTENANCE $3.3 MILLION. THAT'S $394,000 INCREASE.

AGAIN, YOU SEE, PERSONNEL SERVICES IS A GOOD PORTION OF THAT, BUT WE ALSO HAD SOME OPERATING EXPENDITURES THAT WERE ADDED IN THERE AND THAT'S THAT'S MAINLY. WE'VE GOT SOME EXPENSES AGAIN WITH THE NEW GARAGE.

WE'VE GOT SOME NEW FACILITIES THAT WILL BE COMING ONLINE WITH A RESTROOM AT BAKER PARK THAT WE'RE WORKING ON.

BUT WE ALSO HAVE OTHER CONTRACTED SERVICES AT $97,000 INCREASE THERE.

AND IN THAT THAT'S 42,000 IS PROJECTED FOR THAT PARKING GARAGE.

AND THE CONTRACTS THAT WE HAVE THERE, LIKE THE FIRE SPRINKLER SYSTEM OUR ELEVATOR MAINTENANCE, OUR CAR CHARGERS, THE PARKING COUNTER, ALL OF THOSE THINGS ARE WITHIN THOSE CONTRACTED SERVICES THAT ARE EQUATE TO THAT HELP MAKE UP A LOT OF THAT AS WELL AS WE DO HAVE SOME INCREASES IN OUR CONTRACTS THERE AS WELL.

ELECTRICITY AGAIN, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE IN A COUPLE OF THEM ELECTRICITY AND WATER, SEWER AND GARBAGE.

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WE DID NOT WANT TO CONTINUE TO HAVE THOSE GOING INTO THE NEGATIVES BECAUSE THE THE FUNDS WERE NOT SUFFICIENT.

JANITORIAL SUPPLIES. YOU KNOW, WE CONTINUE TO SEE MORE HEAVILY, HEAVILY USED RESTROOMS. AND AGAIN, WITH THE ADDITION OF A NEW RESTROOM WHERE WE INCREASED THAT BY 10,000.

SOME NOTABLE DECREASES. AGAIN, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THE EQUIPMENT SERVICES REFLECTED IN THERE AS WELL.

LAST SECTION FOR GENERAL FUND IS THE RECREATION $4.4 MILLION.

THAT'S A 9.3% INCREASE. THIS IS A BREAKDOWN OF THE DIFFERENT FACILITIES.

AND WE'LL GO THROUGH EACH ONE OF THOSE ONE BY ONE, STARTING WITH FLEISHMAN PARK AT $1.3 MILLION.

THAT'S $122,000 INCREASE, 9.8%. PERSONNEL SERVICES AGAIN, IS GOING TO EQUATE MOST FOR OUR ACCOUNT FOR MOST OF THAT. WE LOOK AT OUR OPERATING EXPENDITURES AT $15,000, AND THAT INCREASES TO HELP WITH SOME OF THE ADDITIONAL PROGRAMS THAT WE WERE WORKING ON IN THE HOUSE, AS WELL AS WE'VE GOT A INCREASE IN 19,000 WITH REPAIR AND MAINTENANCE, WHICH IS GOING TO HELP US WITH SOME OF THE MAINTENANCE OF OUR FIELDS WHERE WE'VE GONE THROUGH.

IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN BY, YOU SHOULD REALLY GO BY AND TAKE A LOOK.

THE FIELDS HAVE HAD A LOT OF WORK DONE TO THEM.

WE WANT TO MAINTAIN THEM AT THAT LEVEL. WE'VE HAD TO RESIDE.

WE'VE HAD TO SHAVE SOME AREAS DOWN. WE'VE HAD TO ADD DIRT.

WE'VE HAD TO GO IN AND AND KIND OF REDEFINE THE IN FIELDS.

SO YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THE MIDDLE PICTURE THERE THAT SHOWS YOU.

THAT'S JUST AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT WE'VE HAD TO DO, GOING IN AND RECUTTING THE THE LINES IN THE FIELD.

SO WE, WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN THAT WITHOUT HAVING THESE HEAVY TICKET ITEMS. THAT MOVES US TO CANBERRA PARK A LITTLE OVER $1 MILLION.

A 3% DECREASE. THIS DECREASE THAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE HERE IN A SECOND.

I'LL TALK ABOUT IT. BUT THE PERSONNEL WE HAD AN INCREASE THEIR OPERATING EXPENSES.

YOU SEE THE CULTURAL ARTS AT $25,000 INCREASE.

WELL THAT INCREASE IS DUE BECAUSE WE DECREASE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES, INCREASE THE CULTURAL ARTS.

BUT WE ALSO MADE ADJUSTMENT BECAUSE, AGAIN, AS I TALKED ABOUT THE NORTH CENTER AND HOW WE OPERATED IT AND WHAT WE'VE DONE, AS WE'VE SEEN, WE PROJECTED A NUMBER LAST YEAR NOT REALLY KNOWING HOW WE WERE GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET THAT.

AND WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO OPERATE THAT CENTER FOR ABOUT A LITTLE OVER HALF A YEAR NOW.

SO NEXT YEAR, WE FEEL CONFIDENT THAT WITH THE PROGRAMS AND WHAT WE HAVE ON TAP IN THE EVENTS, THIS NUMBER WOULD BE MORE SUFFICIENT, WHICH ALLOWED US TO REDUCE SOME OF THE NUMBERS OR THE NUMBER THAT WE HAD IN THERE FOR THIS YEAR.

RIVER PARK AND ANTHONY PARK A LITTLE OVER $1 MILLION.

PERSONNEL SERVICES ACCOUNTS FOR MAJORITY OF THAT $146,000.

THERE WERE NO OTHER SIGNIFICANT INCREASES IN THAT AREA.

SAME THING WITH THE RIVER PARK AQUATICS. WE HAD AN INCREASE OR ACTUALLY A DECREASE THERE, BUT WE'VE MAINTAINED IN SIMILAR BUDGET $552,000. NAPLES PRESERVE $157,000, LET'S SAY OF $15,000 INCREASE, WHICH IS 11%. PERSONNEL SERVICES ACCOUNTS FOR ABOUT 10,000 OF THAT.

WE ALSO INCREASED THE REPAIR AND MAINTENANCE LEVEL OF SERVICE AT 33.3%.

THAT'S MAINLY TO HELP WITH TRYING TO GET SOME OF THE THINGS DONE IN THE PRESERVE, LIKE REDUCTION OF THE FUEL ON THE FOREST FLOOR.

I CALL IT THE FOREST, BUT TECHNICALLY IT'S THE PRESERVE FLOOR.

AND THEN TRYING TO GO IN THERE AND THEN OUT SOME OF THE TREES THAT ARE REALLY STARTING TO SHOW SOME DECLINE, AND THAT'S TO PREVENT ANY SIGNIFICANT DAMAGE.

WE DON'T WANT THE TREES FALLING ON ANYONE. WE ALSO DON'T WANT THEM OUT COMPETING EACH OTHER.

AND THEN WE HAVE A NEGATIVE EFFECT ON OUR PRESERVE.

AND THEN LAST PARK IN THE RECREATION IS BAKER PARK, $347,000 INCREASE IS 73.2% INCREASE TO OTHER SALARIES. YOU'LL SEE AT $30,000 THAT SO THAT WE CAN STAFF THE EVENTS THAT TAKE PLACE AT THAT CENTER.

THE ONE THAT I TOLD YOU TO REMEMBER BACK WHERE WE REDUCED IN PARKS AND PARKWAYS, THE DOG PARK EXPENSES AT $77,000.

WE PUT THAT IN THERE SO THAT IT WAS IT'S NOT BURIED IN ANY OTHER BUDGET.

IT'S OUT IN THE OPEN. YOU SEE IT? AND THE MAJORITY OF WHAT MAKES THAT UP IS MULCHING, PRESSURE, WASHING, DOG WASTE BAGS, THE MAINTENANCE AND LANDSCAPING OF AND REPAIRS THAT ARE DONE TO THAT FACILITY.

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WE'RE GOING TO BE REPLACING A COUPLE OF MORE WATER FOUNTAINS.

WE DID I DID NOTATE IN HERE THAT ORIGINAL RESOLUTION BACK IN 2010 STATED THAT THE DONATION FUNDS WERE NOT SUFFICIENT THAT A USER FEE NEEDED TO BE IMPLEMENTED. WE DID TAKE THAT THROUGH.

CSB, CSB HAD A CONVERSATION, HAD US DO SOME RESEARCH TO PROVIDE THEM SO THEY COULD MAKE A RECOMMENDATION.

THEIR RECOMMENDATION WAS FOR US TO, BASED ON FEEDBACK THAT WE'VE GOT, WAS TO HAVE OR MAKE A PROPOSAL TO YOU ALL TO PUT THAT WITHIN OUR OPERATING BUDGET, WHICH IS WHAT'S IN FRONT OF YOU TODAY.

SO THAT'S I'LL KIND OF STOP THERE. AND IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS ON GENERAL FUND BEFORE I MOVE ON TO THE BEACH FUND.

OKAY. JUST ONE QUICK QUESTION. CHAD, WHERE DOES YOU KNOW, YOU BREAK OUT THE EXPENDITURES APPROPRIATELY. SO FOR THE MAJOR PARKS THAT WE HAVE.

BUT FOR THE SMALLER PARKS, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW, PARKS, THE RIGHT WORD, BUT IT HAS THE.

I'M THINKING OF ROGERS PARK ON THIRD STREET. THERE ARE OTHER SMALL PUBLIC SPACES IN TOWN.

SOME DON'T EVEN HAVE A NAME. SOME ARE JUST, I THINK UNDEVELOPED LAND ALONG ROADS IN THE CITY.

I'M THINKING OF ON BOTH 41 AND GOODLUCK FRANK.

HOW WHERE DOES WHERE DOES THE ONGOING MAINTENANCE AND CARE AND FEEDING OF THOSE PIECES OF PUBLIC LANDS SHOW UP IN THE BUDGET? THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

SO THE ANSWER TO THAT. SO FOR ONE THERE ARE LINEAR PARTS.

POCKET PARKS IS WHAT WE CALL A LOT OF THEM. BUT THOSE ARE WITHIN THOSE CONTRACTS THAT YOU SEE IN CONTRACTED SERVICES WITH PARKS AND PARKWAYS WITH RIGHT NOW CURRENTLY AS A PERSONAL TOUCH HAS THAT THEY GO IN AND WE HAVE THEM MAINTAIN A LOT OF THOSE AREAS.

SO PARKS AND PARKWAYS A LOT OF WHAT THEY DO IS MANAGING THOSE AREAS.

SO IRRIGATION, WHEN IT GOES DOWN, THAT COMES OUT OF THEIR OPERATING EXPENSES.

IF WE HAVE AN ISSUE WITH WE NEED TO GO IN AND REPLACE SOME PLANT MATERIAL, WE'LL PULL THAT OUT OF OUR OPERATING EXPENSES AS WELL IN PARKS AND PARKWAYS.

BUT THE DAY TO DAY MAINTENANCE IS WE HAVE A CONTRACT WITH THAT TO TREE TRIMMING ALL OF THE TREES.

WE HAVE OVER 20,000 TREES WITHIN THE CITY, AND THOSE ARE TRIMMED THROUGH THOSE CONTRACTS AS WELL.

SO REALLY, AS YOU DEVELOP YOUR ANNUAL BUDGET, YOU YOU NEED TO TAKE ACCOUNT OF WHAT THE COST OF MAINTAINING THOSE LINEAR PARKS, PUBLIC PARKS. WHATEVER ELSE FALLS INTO THAT CATEGORY AND BUILD IT INTO THESE VARIOUS MAINTENANCE LINE ITEMS. THAT'S CORRECT. AND THEY HAVE A SPREADSHEET THAT THEY DO THAT WITH TO COME UP WITH THAT MAGIC NUMBER.

YEAH. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. WHAT LINE ITEM.

WHAT LINE ITEM IS THAT IN THE BUDGET. THE CONTRACTED SERVICES.

LET ME GO BACK. I DON'T HAVE IT OFF THE TOP OF IT.

YEAH. FIVE. THREE ONE. SO IT'S PAGE 95, AND IT WOULD BE A COUNT.

531040 IS OTHER CONTRACTED SERVICES. THAT'S WHERE THE MAJORITY OF THAT IS.

56546340. YES. AND THEN YOU ALSO. YES, MA'AM.

EXCUSE ME. WE ALSO HAVE 531020 AS WELL AS WITH PROFESSIONAL SERVICES THAT SOME OF THOSE WOULD BE WOULD COME IN AS WELL.

FIVE. FOUR. SECOND ONE. THEY SHOULD BE RIGHT OVER TOP OF THEM.

GOT ANOTHER? TO THAT, YOU MENTIONED SOMETHING ABOUT THE CRA AND I RECALL SOMETHING SOME DISCUSSION LAST YEAR.

WE DISCUSSED IT DURING THE BUDGET. PLEASE EXPLAIN TO ME THAT ABOUT THE CRA AND THE EXTRA CHRISTMAS LIGHTS AND HOW IT'S NOW IN OUR GENERAL BUDGET? YES. SO THE BEFORE WE HAD, THE CRA WAS COVERING THE COST FOR THE CHRISTMAS LIGHTING THAT WAS ON FIFTH AVENUE.

AND THAT WAS A CONTRACT THAT WAS DONE THROUGH TRIMMERS.

AND TRIMMERS WOULD COME IN AND ADD ADDITIONAL LIGHTING.

SO WHEN YOU SEE THE LIGHTING ON FIFTH AVENUE AROUND CHRISTMAS TIME, WHERE WHETHER YOU HAVE THE ADDED CHRISTMAS BALLS THAT ARE HANGING FROM THE TREE AND THE ADDITIONAL LIGHTING THAT'S ON SUGDEN PLAZA AND SO ON.

THAT IS A CONTRACT THROUGH TRIMMERS AND THAT WAS PAID FOR BY CRA LAST YEAR.

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SO THOSE WERE PUT INTO THE OPERATING BUDGET WITHIN PARKS AND PARKWAYS, AND THAT IT KIND OF JUST WENT INTO THE ACTUAL OPERATING EXPENSES. SO WE PULLED THAT OUT OF THERE SO THAT WE COULD HAVE THAT WHERE IT WAS VISIBLE, AND EVERYBODY WAS ABLE TO SEE WHERE THAT THOSE FUNDING, THOSE THAT FUNDING SOURCE WAS.

SO MY QUESTION FOR STAFF TO GO BACK AND RESEARCH IS IF THAT PARTICULAR EXTRA ITEM SHOULD BE PAID FOR OUT OF THE BID, BECAUSE THAT WAS THE BID'S IDEA TO BRING IN THOSE SPHERES AND ALL OF THAT.

AND IS THAT NOT SOMETHING THEY CAN PAY FOR OUT OF THE BID? I WOULD I'D HAVE TO DEFER BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE ANY CONTROL OVER THE BID.

WELL, THE BID ALREADY TAKES CARE OF. I'M NOT GOING TO CITE BECAUSE I WASN'T, YOU KNOW, HERE.

BUT THE BID TAKES CARE OF CERTAIN LIGHTING THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.

THERE WAS THE AGREEMENT WITHIN THE CRA THAT THEY WOULD INCREASE THE AMOUNT OF LIGHTING DURING CHRISTMAS TIME, IS MY UNDERSTANDING. AND AGAIN, AND LAST YEAR IN THE DISCUSSIONS, THERE WAS KIND OF A YOU KNOW, AND IT WASN'T ME IN THIS CHAIR, BUT I'M SPEAKING FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND OCCURRED.

IT'S KIND OF AN OFFSET TO WITH THE CRA ADMINISTRATOR TO SAY THAT WE CAN THERE'S CERTAIN COSTS THAT ARE REOCCURRING THAT AREN'T CONSIDERED, THAT AREN'T SHOULDN'T BE ELIGIBLE.

NOW, THAT'S THE FIRST QUESTION THAT I WOULD SAY IS WHERE WE NEED TO DIRECT, BECAUSE IT WASN'T ANYTHING THAT WAS PROPOSED TO HAVE BEEN THE BID BEING BEEN IN THE BID THAT THEN GOT ADDED TO THE CRA, THAT THEN GOT ADDED TO THE GENERAL WAS JUST WHETHER OR NOT THAT ADDITIONAL SERVICE SHOULD HAVE BEEN IN THE CRA EVER, FOR LACK OF A BETTER. BUT THE FACT THAT IT THEN JUST BECAME A TRADE OFF AND THEN BURIED IN THE MIDDLE OF THE GENERAL FUND, IT WAS A POINT OF TWO TWOFOLD. SO WHICH IS TO SAY, IF YOU'RE GOING TO AGAIN, IT'S WE'VE BEEN IN GOOD TIMES, BUT IF YOU'RE GOING TO PUT SOMETHING IN THE GENERAL FUND THAT WAS OTHERWISE TAKEN CARE OF BY A SPECIAL DISTRICT, YOU SHOULD ACKNOWLEDGE IT AND PUT IT IN A ISOLATED LINE ITEM SO YOU KNOW THAT IT'S KNOWINGLY BEING PUT IN THAT LINE ITEM.

THAT'S THE FIRST THING. SECOND THING IS, IS AS FAR AS TALKING TO THE BID AND ASKING THEM IF THEY HAVE RECOLLECTION OF HOW IT TRANSFORMED FROM WHAT THEY WERE DOING TO SPLITTING THE COST. I HAVE NO PROBLEM GOING BACK AND DOING THAT.

I JUST WANTED YOU TO KNOW I DON'T HAVE ANY INDEPENDENT KNOWLEDGE OF WHAT THAT IS.

SO. BUT I HAVE NO PROBLEM HAVING THE CONVERSATION.

YEAH, I'M JUST CURIOUS HOW, THE GENERAL FUND IS NOW PAYING FOR THAT EXTRA.

WELL, AGAIN, I'LL GO BACK TO WHAT I MEAN. THAT'S THE REASON, I BELIEVE ISOLATING IT AND SHOWING IT THERE.

BECAUSE TO ME, ANY AREA THAT YOU'RE PUTTING EMPHASIS ON, THAT'S A COMMERCIAL AREA.

AND IF YOU'RE SAYING IF YOU HAVE A CRA AND PART OF THAT IS IS DEVELOPING AND ATTRACTING PEOPLE TO IT AND YOU DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

I LIKE IT BETTER STAYING WHERE IT BELONGS. I DON'T KNOW THE RATIONALE FOR WHY IT WAS DETERMINED IT COULDN'T BE THERE BECAUSE, AGAIN, IT SHOULD BE ANYTHING THAT'S REOCCURRING THAT YOU ARE ENGAGING OR ENTICING PEOPLE TO COME TO THAT AREA AS PART OF DEVELOPMENT.

I JUST DON'T WANT TO SAY WITHOUT RESEARCHING WHY IT WAS CHANGED.

GOT IT. YOU MENTIONED SOMETHING ALSO IN WITH ABOUT THE DOG PARK AND THE FEES.

SO ARE YOU SAYING THAT WE ARE. YOU'RE COMING BACK TO ASK ABOUT THE FEES OR WE'RE GOING TO ESTABLISH FEES.

SO WHAT WOULD HAPPEN? WHAT WE WOULD HAVE TO DO.

WE WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK TO YOU ALL. IF IT'S DETERMINED THAT WE'RE GOING TO COVER THESE COSTS WITHIN THE OPERATING BUDGET, WE WOULD NEED TO COME BACK TO YOU ALL WITH A RESOLUTION TO EITHER I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CALL IT AMEND A RESOLUTION FROM 2010, WHICH MAKES THAT STATEMENT THAT IF DONATED FUNDS ARE NOT SUFFICIENT, THAT A USER FEE NEEDS TO BE IMPLEMENTED.

SO THE OPTION IS WE COVER IT WITH THE EXPENSES OR WE FOLLOW THAT RESOLUTION IN 2010, WHICH IS WE IMPLEMENT A FEE TO COVER EXPENSES.

SO THAT'S OUR TWO OPTIONS AT THIS POINT. WE HAVE THE FUNDING THAT WE WERE REQUESTING IN THERE.

AND IF THERE'S A LATER CONVERSATION THAT TAKES PLACE THAT SAYS DO OTHERWISE, THEN, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD MAKE THAT SWITCH. AND I THINK, YEAH, MADAM MAYOR, AND I THINK THAT SHOULD PROBABLY BE A MULTI-STEP PROCESS.

SO REMEMBER, THESE COSTS WERE ALREADY WITHIN YOUR GENERAL FUND.

THEY JUST WEREN'T ISOLATED TO SHOW YOU EXACTLY WHAT IT WAS COSTING.

NOW YOU HAVE A DONATION FUND THAT WAS ESTABLISHED AND ORIGINALLY AND PROBABLY EVEN AS AS LONG AS FOUR YEARS AGO, YOU WERE STILL GETTING PROBABLY 10,000 A YEAR, PROBABLY HAD 100,000 IN IT.

IT'S JUST SINCE EVAPORATED. SO THEN IT WAS. BUT THE WAY THAT WORKED, SO YOU UNDERSTAND CONCEPTUALLY WAS IT WAS PUT IN THE GENERAL FUND.

THEN ANY REIMBURSEMENT WHEN WE GOT DONATIONS THAT WAY YOU DIDN'T HAVE A LIQUIDITY PERSPECTIVE.

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WE'RE JUST NOT GETTING THE DONATIONS ANYMORE.

SO ONE IS THE PARK EXISTS. DOING THE BUDGET TODAY IS THE APPROPRIATE STEP.

JUST ISOLATING IT SO YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE SPENDING.

THE NEXT QUESTION, AS CHAD INDICATED, WOULD BRING BACK IN A SEPARATE MEETING.

HERE'S THE RESOLUTION. HERE'S WHAT CSB SAID. NO, WE DON'T WANT A FEE.

WE JUST THINK IT SHOULD BE PART OF IT. AND OUR ONLY PROPOSAL IS IF IT'S IF THAT'S THE CASE, THEN COUNCIL SHOULD ACT AND MAKE AN AMENDMENT TO THE RESOLUTION SO STAFF ISN'T SITTING THERE.

THEY HAVE A RESOLUTION ON THE BOOKS WE'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING.

HE APPROPRIATELY WENT TO CSB. THEY SAID NO, IT SHOULD JUST BE A GENERAL OPERATING EXPENSE IN THE PARK DEPARTMENT AND MOVE ON.

IF YOU AGREE, WE'LL RESCIND THE ORDINANCE. IF YOU DON'T AGREE, THEN WE WOULD GO A DIFFERENT DIRECTION.

SO I THINK IT'S TWOFOLD. TODAY IS JUST MERELY KEEPING IT SO THAT WE HAVE THE OPERATIONAL COSTS APPROPRIATED WHERE IT HAS BEEN, EXCEPT FOR ISOLATED IN A SEPARATE LINE. SO YOU CAN SEE IT.

AND THEN WE MOVE FORWARD WITH BRINGING THE OTHER ONE BACK TO YOU.

AND I JUST SAY THAT THERE'S A LINE ITEM THAT SAYS EXPENSES PRESSURE WASHING THREE TIMES A YEAR.

THAT SEEMS TO BE A COMMON COMPLAINT THAT THAT AREA NEEDS A LOT MORE ATTENTION.

SO WE MIGHT WANT TO LOOK AT IT THAT POLICY ON THREE TIMES A YEAR.

SO I WILL ADD THIS BECAUSE WE DID A TEST ON THIS WE HAD STAFF GO IN AND THEY'VE CLEANED THE AREA.

ONE OF THE AREAS WAS A PILE WHERE BASICALLY DOGS USE THE RESTROOM ON THE PILE.

THEY CLEANED THE REST. THEY CLEANED IT. THAT WAS ON A THURSDAY OR FRIDAY.

WE TOOK PICTURES BEFORE. PICTURES AFTER. ON MONDAY WE WENT BACK AND IT WAS RIGHT BACK FROM WHERE DOGS HAD URINATED.

SO IT'S GOING TO BE A CONSTANT THING. I DON'T THINK WE CAN PRESSURE WASH IT ENOUGH TO KEEP IT OFF.

IT WOULD HAVE TO BE A DAILY CLEANING. WE DON'T HAVE THE STAFF THAT WE CAN DEDICATE TO GO OVER THERE AND PRESSURE WASH THE AREA EVERY SINGLE DAY.

FOUR TIMES A YEAR IS WHAT WE PRESSURE WASH THAT AND THAT'S DONE WITH BAKER PARK.

SO IF WE INCREASE THAT THEN WE WOULD BE LOOKING SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN THAT 77,000.

FROM A FACILITIES MAINTENANCE POINT OF VIEW. MAYBE WE WANT TO LOOK AT IT AT NOT PUTTING STONE NATURAL STONE ON A COLUMN THAT I WOULD AGREE, BUT UNFORTUNATELY, I WASN'T HERE IN 2010.

RIGHT, I GOT IT, I GOT IT. AND IT'S NO NOTHING PERSONAL.

AND THEN. SO WHERE'S THE SALARY? YOU HAVE A $30,000.

SO SOMEONE SPECIFICALLY IS PAYING ATTENTION TO THE DOG PART? NO, THIS THIS WOULD NOT BE ASSOCIATED WITH DOG PARK.

THIS IS FOR WHEN WE RENT GOMEZ CENTER. AND WE HAVE PEOPLE.

WE HAVE TO HAVE A STAFF MEMBER THERE THAT OPENS THE BUILDING, WATCHES OVER, MAKE SURE THEY DON'T THROW ANY WILD PARTIES.

AND YOU KNOW, MAKING SURE THAT THE, THE UPKEEP OF THE FACILITY AND THAT'S ON A SCHEDULED BASIS.

SO IF WE WE KNOW WE HAVE THREE EVENTS ON SATURDAY, THEN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A STAFF MEMBER THERE FROM 8:00 TO WHENEVER THOSE EVENTS IN.

SO WE HAVE OKAY. SO THAT MAKES SENSE. SO WE HAVE A STAFF PERSON DEDICATED TO THE DARK DOG PARK MAINTENANCE.

WE HAVE. YEAH, WE HAVE THE OUR SECTION, OUR DIVISION, OUR FACILITIES, MAINTENANCE HANDLES THE THE UPKEEP OF THAT.

AND THEN WE HAVE PARKS AND PARKWAYS WHO HANDLES THINGS AND WITHIN THE LANDSCAPING.

SO THERE'S A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT DIVISIONS THAT WOULD HANDLE THOSE AREAS.

BUT THE CONTRACT THAT WE HAVE FOR PRESSURE WASHING, WHAT HAPPENED WITH THIS NUMBER THAT YOU HAVE HERE IS THAT WAS JUST ADDED ON AS A FACILITY INTO THE CONTRACT. SO AGAIN, THAT'S HOW IT GETS BURIED WITHIN THAT.

SO WE'VE PULLED THAT OUT SO THAT IT CAN BE RIGHT IN FRONT OF US AND SAY, THIS IS WHAT THIS COST FOR US TO PRESSURE WASH.

THIS IS WHAT IT COST RIGHT HERE FOR US TO DO.

MULCHING. THE MULCHING WAS ALSO TIED TO THE MULCHING CONTRACT THAT WE HAD, AND THAT'S FOUR TIMES A YEAR.

AND AGAIN, IT'S ANOTHER THING THAT CAN WE DO IT ENOUGH.

IT'S WE CONSTANTLY FEEL LIKE WE'RE TRYING TO MOVE THE MULCH AROUND.

SO IT TAKES A LOT OF MAINTENANCE TO MAINTAIN IT.

SO TWO MORE THINGS AND THAT'S MULCHING. DO WE HAVE TO HAVE A POLICY TO DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT IN THE FUTURE? I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE A FUTURE DISCUSSION FOR SURE.

SO ARE WE GOING TO BE PUTTING MULCH IN THE MEDIANS THIS YEAR? BECAUSE IT'S I MEAN, AGAIN, I THINK WE THAT WILL BE A CONVERSATION THAT WE WILL DEFINITELY.

I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE AS A GROUP. UNLESS GARY'S KNOW, I'D LIKE TO BRING THAT BACK AND HAVE THAT GENERAL DISCUSSION WITH COUNCIL, BECAUSE THAT'D BE GREAT. BEFORE YOU GO AND ORDER ALL THAT MULCH AND WE GO IN AND CLEAN IT UP WITH OUR STREET SWEEPERS.

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SO. ABSOLUTELY. PRESSURE WASHING. WHO DOES THE FIFTH AVENUE SIDEWALK CONTRACTOR? WE HAVE A CONTRACTOR THAT DOES THAT, SO THAT'S PART OF THE CONTRACT.

BUT WE DO IT. YES. CORRECT. BUT IT COMES OUT OF CRA THAT CONTRACT.

THAT ONE'S. YEAH. I THINK THAT'S IN OUR, OUR MAIN ONE THAT DOES THE PARKS.

WE HAVE A CONTRACTOR THAT PRESSURE WASHES THE PARKS AND THE FACILITIES AND THAT'S TIED WITHIN THAT.

AND WE DO WE HAVE A MAINTENANCE SCHEDULE. ARE WE DUE TO DO FIFTH AVENUE SOON? BECAUSE I KEEP HEARING THERE. IT'S DONE MULTIPLE TIMES A YEAR AS WELL.

BUT AGAIN, YOU KNOW, YOU GET YOU GET A LOT OF USE OF FIFTH AVENUE AND IT DOESN'T TAKE IT LONG, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU GOT KIDS FLOODING OUT OF THE ICE CREAM SHOP EATING ICE CREAM.

IT'S THE SIDEWALKS GET DIRTY PRETTY QUICK. YEAH.

OKAY. DID I HAVE ANYONE ELSE? PARDON? OH. VICE MAYOR.

AND THEN. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. JUST GOING TO TOUCH ON THIS, BUT, MULCH AND I'M SURE WE'LL GO MORE IN DEPTH, BUT I'D LIKE TO SEE US REPLACE THAT FLOATING TYPE MULCH WITH SOME TYPE OF STONE THAT DOESN'T FLOAT SO READILY AND AND MAYBE SOME TYPE OF BARRIER THAT HELPS US IN THAT REGARD. I WANTED TO ON THIS DECORATIONS ON FIFTH AVENUE.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I'M UNDERSTANDING THIS.

RIGHT. AND FIRST OF ALL, LAYERING. AND THERE'S A CRA DISTRICT VERSUS AN AREA NOT IN THE CRA.

RIGHT. THERE ARE ONE AREA VERSUS A TYPE OF AREA THAT'S NOT CRA.

SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AN AREA OF FIFTH AVENUE THAT WAS IN THE CRA, AN EXPENSE FOR DECORATIONS, IF I'M UNDERSTANDING IT. RIGHT, WAS INCLUDED IN THE CRA, AND HAS SINCE BEEN MOVED OUT OF THE CRA AND IS NOW BEING ACCOUNTED FOR IN A CITY BUDGET.

OUR BUDGET. THE CITY OF GENERAL FUND. GENERAL FUND.

CORRECT. AND AGAIN, KNOWING THAT WE HAVE AN AREA OF THE FIFTH AVENUE CRA.

BUT THIRD STREET IS NOT THE CRA, AND SOMEONE ELSE TAKES CARE OF DECORATING THAT AREA.

OR DOES THE CITY ALSO PAY THE SAME THING THAT WE DO FOR FIFTH AVENUE? DO WE DO FOR THIRD STREET? SOUTH THIRD HANDLES THEIRS WITHIN THE NEAPOLITAN? I THINK NEAPOLITAN ENTERPRISES. WHY IS THAT? BECAUSE THAT'S A BUSINESS JUST LIKE THE FIFTH AVENUE BUSINESSES ARE THERE.

WHY IS IT? YEAH, I THINK THERE'S SOME PAID IN.

THERE'S TAX MONEY PAID IN. BUT THAT'S PART OF THE PROBLEM WHEN YOU HAVE SOMETHING THAT THOSE TAXPAYERS VOTED TO ASSESS THEMSELVES, IT WAS PART OF THE COST THAT YOU HAVE THERE. THEN YOU TURN AROUND AND YOU SHIFT IT TO THE GENERAL, AND THEN YOU'RE NOT TREATING THEM THE SAME WAY.

AND THAT'S WHY IT BEING BURIED THERE IS A PROBLEM.

SO YOU YOU RECOGNIZE WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT. THAT'S THE REASON IT NEEDS.

IF YOU IF IT WAS GOING TO BE ACCEPTED, IT NEEDED TO BE ACCEPTED BY YOU AND KNOWINGLY KNOW THAT THAT'S THERE.

AND COUNSEL UNDERSTANDS THE QUESTION I'M ASKING I THINK.

RIGHT. YES. THE THE FUNDS TO DECORATE FIFTH AVENUE ARE BEING PAID THROUGH THE GENERAL FUND.

AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT THIRD STREET WANTS ANYTHING DIFFERENT, BUT WE ARE NOT WE ARE NOT PAYING USING THE GENERAL FUND TO ALLOCATE ANY, ANY MONEY FOR DECORATING THE THIRD STREET SOUTH AREA.

OKAY. SO I JUST I JUST FIND IT INTERESTING. I APPRECIATE WHAT JOAN TOBIN AND THE FLESH.

THE FLESH FAMILY IS CONTRIBUTING TO THAT. I'M JUST TALKING ABOUT FAIRNESS AND WHAT WE DO.

SO I JUST THINK THAT'S INTERESTING. BUT IT'S COMING BACK, OKAY.

WHAT WILL IT BE? IT WOULD BE MY INTENT TO REVISIT THE ORIGINAL DECISION FROM LAST YEAR TO TAKE IT OUT OF THE CRA.

WHAT THE MERITS OF THAT IS, AND THEN IT WILL BECOME COUNCIL'S DECISION.

IS IT YOUR INTENT TO LEAVE IT AS A GENERAL FUND EXPENSE OR NOT? BUT YES, JUST JUST TALKING ABOUT IT BEFORE IT BECOMES AN EVEN BIGGER ISSUE.

AGREE. GRANTS. CHAD, YOU HAD MENTIONED THAT YOU INTEND TO GO AFTER GRANTS

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IF THEY'RE NOT THERE. WHERE WOULD GRANTS HELP US IN A SPECIFIC MANNER IF WE WERE SUCCESSFUL IN ACQUIRING GRANTS. WHERE? SO THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT TYPES OF GRANTS, BUT YOU HAVE AN EXAMPLE.

I'LL USE THE LAND AND WATER CONSERVATION FUND.

THOSE ARE FOR DEVELOPMENT OF PARKLAND. YOU CAN USE IT FOR IF YOU HAVE LIKE SIPS FOR INSTANCE.

SO IF WE GO IN AND WE DECIDE WE'RE GOING TO ADD A FIELD, WE CAN USE THOSE.

WELL, IF WE GET THOSE FUNDS THOSE CAN GO TOWARDS THAT.

THERE'S PLAYGROUND GRANTS THAT WE'RE, WE LOOK AT, THERE'S THERE'S GRANTS THAT HELP WITH PROGRAMING.

THERE'S GRANTS THAT HELP WITH MAINLY I WOULD SAY CIP ITEMS ARE GOING TO BE THE TICKET ITEMS THAT WE GO AFTER CAPITAL EXPENDITURES.

CORRECT. OKAY. SO I'VE LEARNED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT GRANTS DURING MY TIME ON COUNCIL.

AND I WANT TO ASK THIS WHEN THE CITY APPLIES FOR A GRANT, WHAT ARE THE SHORT OR LONG TERM COMMITMENTS, CONTRACTUAL OR OTHERWISE, WHICH ARE TIED TO ACCEPTING THE GRANT? FOR INSTANCE, ON CERTAIN GRANTS, ARE WE REQUIRED TO KEEP ANY AMENITIES WHICH WOULD BE FUNDED BY THAT GRANT IN PLACE FOR A PERIOD OF FIVE, TEN, 20 YEARS OR SO AS A CONDITION OF ACCEPTING THE GRANT? THERE ARE. EACH GRANT IS DIFFERENT. I CAN GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE OF ONE THAT WE'VE APPLIED FOR.

IT'S GOING TO REQUIRE US TO DO REPORTING FOR THE PERIOD OF, I THINK LIKE 20 YEARS.

WE HAVE TO TURN IN A REPORT. SOME OF THEM DO REQUIRE YOU TO MAKE SURE THAT THE IT ALWAYS REMAINS A PUBLIC PARK LAND WHICH.

THAT'S LAND LAND WATER CONSERVATION FUND. WHEN YOU DO THAT GRANT, YOU HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT FACILITY IS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC FOR THE DURATION OF ITS EXISTENCE. AND THOSE THINGS WOULD BE WHEN THEY COME.

YOU ALL HAVE TO ACCEPT GRANTS. SO WHEN WE BRING THOSE ITEMS TO YOU ALL, IT SHOULD BE WITHIN THAT AGENDA.

MEMORANDUM THAT STATES HERE, HERE ARE THE GUIDELINES FOR THIS.

IF YOU IF WE ACCEPT THIS GRANT, THIS IS WHAT THE TERMS ARE.

THAT'S WHAT I HOPE TO LEARN. SO IT WOULD COME BEFORE COUNCIL.

WE WOULD HAVE TO ACCEPT IT. AND ALL THE GRANTS HAVE TO COME TO YOU ALL TO ACCEPT.

VERY GOOD. THAT'S ALL I OWE. ONE LAST. THE PRESIDENTIAL FITNESS TEST.

I KNOW THERE WASN'T ANY DISCUSSION IN THE BUDGET MATERIALS, BUT I'D SURE LIKE TO SEE THE CITY, IF IT'S APPROPRIATE, FACILITATE PARTICIPATION IN THAT PRESIDENTIAL FITNESS TEST WHERE IT MAKES SENSE.

SO WE'LL LOOK INTO IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR.

MR. YOUNG, DID YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING? I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I REMEMBER OUR COUNCIL, AND THEN I JUST HAVE ONE SUMMARY STATEMENT BEFORE YOU'RE DONE WITH THE GENERAL FUND AND COMMUNITY SERVICE. OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER PETRINO.

PETRINA. THANK YOU. JUST A COUPLE QUICK QUESTIONS.

ON OUR CAMPS, DO WE? IS IT A TIERED PRICING? WHETHER YOU ARE IN THE CITY, A CITY RESIDENT VERSUS IN THE COUNTY? IT IS NOT. IT'S THE IT'S THE SAME PRICE FOR A CAMP.

IF YOU'RE IF YOU LIVE IN THE COUNTY OR IF YOU LIVE IN THIS USED TO BE BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I GUESS I HAS ONE.

AND MAYBE WE NEED A COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS. WE'D LIKE TO SEE, YOU KNOW, US GET MORE AND MORE BENEFITS FOR CITY RESIDENTS THAT ACTUALLY LIVE HERE AND PAY THOSE INCREMENTAL FEES. SO I'D LIKE TO SEE US DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

AND SAME WITH THE DOG PARK, WHERE A LOT OF CITIES LIKE THE CITY I CAME FROM IN CONNECTICUT YOU KNOW, IT WAS IT WAS A LOWER PRICE TO BELONG TO THE DOG PARK AND A HIGHER PRICE IF YOU WANTED TO COME FROM OUTSIDE OF THE CITY.

CREATING A REASON. ONE MORE REASON WHY YOU'D WANT TO LIVE HERE.

AND SO THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, I WOULD LIKE TO LIKE TO SEE, AND THAT'S IT.

THANK YOU. WE HAVE POLICY QUESTIONS THERE BECAUSE I THINK COUNCIL MEMBER PANAMA AND I RECALL THAT WE DID WE USED TO HAVE A TIERED SYSTEM WE DID FOR YEAH. SO SO LET ME BE CLEAR.

YOU CAN HAVE A TIERED SYSTEM NOW. BUT RECALL THAT ONLY CHANGED LAST CONTRACT.

LAST INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT. WHEN WE EXPANDED IT WENT WITH THE ADDITIONAL APPLICATIONS IN TERMS OF TDC.

AND WE CHANGED THE THE LANGUAGE THAT SAID ALLOWED EACH MEANING COLLIER COUNTY AND THE CITY OF NAPLES TO CONTROL THEIR OWN PARKS AND RECREATION FEES UP TO THAT POINT AND ALL PRIOR INTERLOCAL AGREEMENTS EVER SINCE THEY STARTED PAYING A FEE, INCLUDING AN INABILITY TO CHARGE COLLIER COUNTY DIFFERENT THAN YOU DO CITIES.

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SO I WOULD GO BACK TO CHAD'S SLIDE. THEIR FEES HAVEN'T BEEN EVALUATED SINCE 2019.

LET'S GIVE YOU COMPARISONS AND HAVE THE SAME DISCUSSION.

DO YOU WANT TIERED OR NOT? BUT I DID WANT TO REINTRODUCE THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WHICH CONTROLLED THAT FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS.

AND THAT WAS JUST CHANGED LAST TIME. SO. AND ANOTHER THING THAT WE DO IS WE DO ALLOW CITY RESIDENTS TO REGISTER FOR LIKE CAMP AND THE DIFFERENT PROGRAMS FIRST IN ADVANCE BEFORE WE OPEN IT UP TO OUTSIDE. AND I THINK THAT'S GREAT.

I'M JUST TRYING TO GET, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE CITY.

WE OUR DEMOGRAPHIC IS VERY DIFFERENT THAN THE COUNTY.

OUR AVERAGE AGE IS 68 YEARS OLD. WE HAVE 1100 KIDS THAT ARE SCHOOL AGE WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS.

THESE PARKS ARE FUNDED BY THIS BY CITY RESIDENTS.

AND I WANT TO MAKE THEM, YOU KNOW, SPECIAL FOR CITY RESIDENTS, MEANINGFUL FOR FOR ALL KINDS OF CITY RESIDENTS, INCLUDING OLDER, OLDER PEOPLE THAT MIGHT WANT TO USE THESE THINGS.

AND I'M NOT ALL THAT INTERESTED IN SUBSIDIZING.

I DON'T KNOW HOW OTHER CITY RESIDENTS FEEL. SUBSIDIZING WITH MY MY RESIDENTIAL TAX DOLLARS.

KIDS COMING FROM ALL OVER THE COUNTY TO ENTER OUR PROGRAMS. BUT THAT AND I THINK WE'LL ADDRESS THAT IN, THROUGH INTER LOCAL AGREEMENTS BECAUSE AS MR. YOUNG JUST SAID THAT. YEAH. YEAH. I THINK IT'S INTERESTING THAT DIGGING THROUGH A LOT OF THE OLD CONTRACTS AND INTERLOCAL AGREEMENTS BECAUSE WE DO PAY, WE KNOW WE ARE A MEMBER OF THE COUNTY PAYING FULL COUNTY FREIGHT, AND WE'RE A MEMBER OF THE CITY PAYING FULL CITY FREIGHT.

AND AS I STATED, WE ARE LOOKING TO BRING THE DO AN UPDATE IN THE FEES.

SO PERHAPS THAT'S THE TIME TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION AS WELL WHEN WE BRING THAT BACK.

YEAH, BECAUSE THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENTS ALREADY BEEN CHANGED TO ALLOW THAT TO BE AN OPEN DISCUSSION ON ITS OWN MERITS.

AND JUST JUST ONE MORE QUESTION ABOUT THE CAMPS.

WHAT PERCENT OF CAMP ATTENDEES LIVE WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS, AND WHAT PERCENT LIVE OUTSIDE OF THE CITY LIMITS? I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT PERCENTAGE I CAN GET THAT PERCENTAGE, BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT IT'S IT'S HIGHER WITH COUNTY RESIDENTS USING THE CAMPS VERSUS THE CITY RESIDENTS. LIKE HIGHER LIKE 80%. SO YOU'RE TRYING YOU'RE TRYING TO PIN ME TO A NUMBER.

I'M JUST SHOWING IT. IT'S I WOULD SAY IT'S IT'S DEFINITELY OVER HALF.

IT'S OVER HALF THAT ARE COUNTY VERSUS CITY. OKAY.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER PENMAN. I'M GOOD.

OKAY. MADAM MAYOR, I JUST WANT TO TAKE ONE OPPORTUNITY JUST TO KIND OF FORESHADOW WHAT'S COMING AS IT RELATES TO THE PARK.

SO IN THIS BUDGET YOU SAW, YOU HAVE THE CAMBER NORTH CENTER.

WE ALSO HAVE TO HAVE A SPECIAL EVENT. DISCUSSION ALONG WITH THE PLAYGROUND AT CAMBRIA.

AGAIN, WE'RE GETTING READY TO PUT $2 MILLION IN A PARK THAT SOMETIMES DURING SIX MONTHS OUT OF THE YEAR, WE CAN ONLY PEOPLE ROLLING IN IT OTHER THAN THE SPECIAL EVENTS ONE WEEKEND OUT A MONTH.

SO WE NEED TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION. WE ALSO HAD A COMMUNITY SERVICE BUILDING THAT FLOODED ENORMOUSLY UNDER IAN.

WE ARE ALSO CHASING REVENUE WITH THE NORRIS CENTER AND OPERATING A THEATER.

THE QUESTION BECOMES, SHOULD WE STILL BE CHASING REVENUE AND OPERATING THAT THEATER, OR LET THE THE ARTS MARKET TAKE CARE OF ITSELF? SO I DO WANT THAT SPECIAL EVENT CONVERSATION TO INCLUDE, SHOULD WE BE STILL DOING PROGRAMING AT NORRIS CENTER, OR WOULD WE BE BETTER OFF LOOKING AT EVALUATING THAT FACILITY TO MOVE COMMUNITY SERVICE OPERATIONS OVER HERE NEXT TO THE PARK AND FREE UP THAT LAND FOR SOMETHING ELSE OVER THERE THAT'S IN A NON FLOODED AREA.

SO I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT. AND I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF PUT THAT OUT THERE THAT WE I LOOK FORWARD TO THAT CONVERSATION HOPEFULLY IN OCTOBER OR NOVEMBER AT THE LATEST. AND AND AND HAVE THAT HONEST DIALOG ON THAT.

SO THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. NOT QUITE DONE.

SO WE'RE MOVING ON TO THE BEACH FUND. SO OUR BEACH FUND WE HAVE A LITTLE OVER $2.1 MILLION THAT WE'VE MANAGED IN BEACH FUND AND OUR SECTIONS OF THE BEACH FUND OR LOUDERMILK PARK, NAPLES PIER AND THE BEACH MAINTENANCE.

AND YOU CAN SEE WHAT THOSE NUMBERS ARE WITH OUR BEACH MAINTENANCE AT $1.5 MILLION, WHICH IS ACCOUNTS FOR MOST OF THAT.

SO WE'LL START WITH THE BEACH MAINTENANCE $1.5 MILLION $103,000 $0 INCREASE 7.3%.

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YOU SEE WATER AND SEWER. THAT'S ANOTHER ADJUSTMENT WE HAD TO MAKE TO REFLECT THE ACTUALS.

LOUDERMILK PARK $531,000. THAT'S $124,000 INCREASE 30.5%, WHICH INCLUDES THE CIP.

WE DO HAVE THE CIP THAT'S IN THERE. THAT'S GOING TO BE DOING SOME RENOVATIONS OR SOME IMPROVEMENTS, I SHOULD SAY, NOT RENOVATIONS TO THAT FACILITY.

IT'S IT NEEDS TO BE REPAINTED. WE'VE GOT SOFFIT NEEDS TO BE REPLACED.

THE DOORS ARE RUSTED OUT. SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO REPLACE DOORS.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO THE SAME THING WITH THE GAZEBOS, PAINT THOSE.

SO JUST SOME UPKEEP, GENERAL UPKEEP. THERE'S A PICTURE THERE.

I THOUGHT THAT WAS A ITEM THAT WAS DONE ON THE NORTH SIDE.

HUGE IMPROVEMENT THEN. WE'VE GOT A LOT OF COMPLIMENTS ABOUT THAT.

WE DID MAKE ANOTHER ADJUSTMENT THERE WITH COMMUNICATIONS.

THAT'S AGAIN AN ADJUSTMENT THAT WAS MADE TO REFLECT THE ACTUALS, WHICH ACCOUNTS FOR THAT $19,000 INCREASE.

ANY QUESTIONS ON THE BEACH FUND BEFORE I MOVE TO CITY DOCK? ALL RIGHT. I'VE GOT A QUICK QUESTION. YES. THE NAPLES, PIER $107,768. WHAT'S THAT BEING SPENT ON RIGHT NOW? RIGHT NOW, IT'S JUST BEING SPENT ON OUR JANITORIAL SUPPLIES.

SO THAT NUMBER'S JUST KIND OF BEEN MAINTAINED UNTIL THE OPERATION.

AND WE'LL HAVE TO GO BACK AND REASSESS WHAT THAT NUMBER IS GOING TO BE, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK WE'VE CHANGED IT SINCE IT'S BEEN A WHILE.

NO. AND THOSE THE I MEAN, THE FACILITY IS OPEN AND IT'S OPEN IN A LIMITED CAPACITY.

SO YOU STILL HAVE TO MAINTAIN ALL OF THAT UNTIL SUCH TIME AS WE GET THE ALL THE PERMITTING AND BEGIN DEMOLITION AT THAT POINT.

THEN WHEN WE CLOSE THE FACILITY, THAT WOULD JUST REVERT.

AND, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, YOU MAY NOT SPEND IT ALL, BUT RIGHT NOW TO GET IT BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN, YOU KNOW, CHASING PERMITS FOR A WHILE NOW. SO I, WE DON'T WANT TO ELIMINATE THE LINE ITEM THEN CONTINUE TO HAVE THE EXPENSE.

SO THAT'S JUST KEEPING IT FUNDED AT THAT LEVEL.

OKAY. AND I'M GOING TO COME BACK TO YOU ON THE HERE AT THE END OF THIS ABSOLUTE PROCESS SO WE CAN GET A LITTLE UPDATE THERE.

WE DON'T NEED TO DO IT NOW. YES, SIR. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. SO THAT MOVES US INTO THE CITY DOCK.

THIS SHOWS THE CITY DOCKS CURRENT STAFFING. THERE ARE NO VACANCIES THERE.

WE DO. I DO WANT TO NOTATE THAT WE ARE LOOKING IN THE FUTURE TO POTENTIALLY ADD A DOCK KEEPER, BUT IT'S JUST NOT THE RIGHT TIME RIGHT NOW WITH THE FUEL STATION OR FUEL TANK REPLACEMENT THAT WE'RE HAVING TO DO.

BUT WE WE HAVE SOME REALLY GOOD EMPLOYEES THERE, AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE NOT OVERWORKED.

BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT THE IN THE BUDGET, YOU'LL SEE THE OVERTIME LINE ITEM WAS VERY SIGNIFICANT.

AND WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'VE GOT COVERAGE.

SO WITH THAT SAID, REVENUE CITY DOC 3.5 MILLION IS WHAT'S PROJECTED.

THAT'S IN THE COLUMN FOR YELLOW, WITH THE FUEL CELLS BEING THE HIGHEST AT $2.5 MILLION PROJECTION.

WE ALSO HAVE, OF COURSE, SOME SOME REVENUES ATTACHED WITH TRANSIENT RENTALS AND THEN OUR DOCK RENTALS AS WELL.

THE EXPENSE OPERATING EXPENSE IS $2.8 MILLION.

THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE THE CIP. IF YOU INCLUDE THE CIP OF $1.1 MILLION, WHICH INCLUDES THE FUEL TANK REPLACEMENT, AS WELL AS THE NAPLES LANDING IMPROVEMENTS, THAT BRINGS THAT TOTAL EXPENSE TO A LITTLE OVER $4 MILLION.

AND THAT HERE IN A SECOND, WILL KIND OF RELATE THIS $2.8 MILLION TO THE THE NUMBER.

BUT I DID WANT TO AT LEAST TALK ABOUT ONE THING THAT'S BEEN VERY IMPORTANT TO US AT THE CITY.

DOC IS OUR STAFF AND SHOWING VALUE IN OUR STAFF.

AND YOU SEE TRAINING AND TRAVEL COSTS THERE. WELL, IF YOU GO BACK TO THIS PICTURE, THEY'RE SITTING THERE HOLDING CAPTAIN'S LICENSE.

THOSE TWO INDIVIDUALS GOT THEIR CAPTAIN'S LICENSE THIS PAST YEAR.

THEY'RE ALSO ONE OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS GOT HIS FIRST STAGE OF BECOMING A CERTIFIED MARINA OPERATOR.

WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO ENCOURAGE THAT GROWTH WITHIN SO THAT OUR STAFF, ONE CAN GIVE US AND DELIVER THE BEST SERVICE POSSIBLE, BUT ALSO MOVING FORWARD, WE CAN HAVE THAT. YOU KNOW, WHEN OUR MARINE MANAGER DECIDES THAT HE WANTS TO RETIRE, WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO MOVE THAT PERSON IN AND BE ABLE TO FILL THAT INTERNALLY.

SO WE ARE PUTTING SOME SOME ATTENTION TOWARDS OUR STAFF AND THEY'RE ACCEPTING THAT AND THEY'RE DOING A HECK OF A JOB.

SO I WANTED TO CALL THAT OUT. WE'VE GOT SOME OTHER TECHNOLOGY SERVICES, WHICH IS A FEE THAT'S FACTORED IN OR FIGURED BY IT.

AND THEN WE'VE GOT SOME RESALE SUPPLIES, AND I'LL KIND OF GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF A SHOUT OUT.

WE DO HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL RESALE ITEMS THAT WE'RE TRYING OUT TO TRY TO INCREASE SOME OF THE REVENUE,

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BUT WE ARE TRYING THAT AND THAT STUFF IS IT GOES QUICK.

SO WE WANT TO TRY TO CONTINUE TO INCREASE THOSE OPPORTUNITIES WHERE WE CAN.

WE DID HAVE SOME DECREASE. YOU SEE THERE IN THE $200,000 FOR FUEL.

WE DID THAT BECAUSE JUST AN ADJUSTMENT OF WHAT THE ACTUALS WERE.

BUT I WANT TO GO BACK TO SHOW YOU OR NOT GO BACK, BUT GO FORWARD TO SHOW YOU THAT REVENUE OF 3.5 MILLION, WITH THE EXPENSE AT 2.8 MILLION. THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE THAT CIP.

AND YOU SEE THAT NUMBER AT 650,000. AND I'M GOING TO FLIP OVER TO THE NEXT ONE AND ALLOW GARY TO KIND OF EXPLAIN THE AMORTIZATION AND HOW THAT RELATES.

SO, AS HE INDICATED IN PURE OPERATIONAL, THIS IS A PURE ENTERPRISE FUND.

SO ITS FEES ARE SUPPOSED TO TAKE CARE OF ITS OBLIGATIONS.

SO FROM THE STANDPOINT OF WITHOUT THE MAJOR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT FUEL TANK REPLACEMENT, IT'S OPERATIONALLY FINE.

THAT'S WHY WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO MAKE DOUBLE PAYMENTS ON THE LOAN FOR THE LAST FIVE YEARS NOW.

BUT WHAT WE DIDN'T HAVE WAS ANY FORESHADOWING THAT YOU'RE GOING TO NEED TO REPLACE THIS TANK.

SO WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS WE'RE GOING TO SKIP TWO YEARS, MAKE IT INTEREST ONLY.

YOU'LL STILL BE THREE FULL YEARS OF PAYMENTS AHEAD.

AND THE REVENUE WOULD DEPICT YOU STILL BEFORE THIS CAPITAL EXPENDITURE.

IF YOU GO BACK TO THE SLIDE CHAD SHOWS YOU THE 650.

WELL, WE WERE MAKING DOUBLE PAYMENTS, WHICH WAS GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE 305 TIMES 2 OR 610.

THAT'S HOW WE WERE MAINTAINING A FUND BALANCE AROUND 550 TO 600,000 MAKING DOUBLE PAYMENTS.

BUT WHEN AN EXPENDITURE OF OVER $1 MILLION COMES ALONG, THAT'S WHERE YOU'RE IN THE POSITION THAT YOU'RE AT THAT YOU'VE GOT TO FORGO SAY, OKAY, WE'RE JUST GOING TO INTEREST ONLY YOU'LL STILL BE THREE PAYMENTS AHEAD, BUT THERE'S NO REASON TO BELIEVE AS SOON AS THE FUEL TANK IS DONE, YOU'RE NOT BACK TO WHERE YOU WERE MAKING EXTRA PAYMENTS AGAIN.

SO I SAY THAT FOR YOU BECAUSE IN CHAD'S LOBBYING TO GET HIS OTHER ONE POSITION, MY POINT TO HIM AS THE CITY MANAGER WAS, LOOK, YOU'RE IN A DEFICIT POSITION. GIVEN THIS CAPITAL EXPENDITURE, THAT ONE POSITION WILL REPLACE TWO PART TIME EVENTUALLY.

BUT THIS ISN'T THE YEAR TO DO THAT. WHEN YOU'RE SHOWING A NEGATIVE, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE FOREGOING PAYMENTS AND IN LIEU OF THAT.

SO IF EVERYTHING WORKS OUT AND HE'S APPLIED FOR A GRANT ON THE TANK REPLACEMENT, THAT WAS ONE OF HIS EXAMPLES THAT HE WAS REFERRING TO ABOUT REPORTING FOR 20 YEARS.

IF THAT WOULD COME TO FRUITION AND WE GET HALF OF THE TANK DONE, WELL, YOU'RE BACK IN POSITION TO RESUME, EXCUSE ME, THE EXTRA PAYMENTS AND LOOK AT THE ADDITIONAL PERSONNEL.

SO IT'S JUST A LET'S WALK BEFORE WE RUN. BUT UNDERSTANDING WHAT IT IS THAT FOREGOING THOSE.

THANK YOU SIR. THOSE TWO PAYMENTS IS THE PRUDENT WAY TO FUND THIS GIVEN THAT WE'RE ALREADY FIVE PAYMENTS AHEAD.

SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THAT. RECAP. YES.

QUICK QUESTION. SINCE WE'RE HERE CAN YOU GIVE AN UPDATE ON THE TANK REPLACEMENT? WHERE ARE WE WITH THAT PROCESS AND WHEN WILL IT BE OPERATIONAL AND WHEN WE'LL BE MAKING MONEY AGAIN ON FUEL SALES.

SO RIGHT NOW IT'S OPERATIONAL. WE HAVEN'T WE HAVEN'T MOVED FORWARD ON ANYTHING UNTIL THE CIP WAS WITHIN THE CIP.

SO ONCE THAT'S APPROVED WITH THIS BUDGET, THEN WE WOULD MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PROJECT PROCESS, WHICH WOULD MEAN WE'D HAVE TO HAVE SOMEBODY COME IN AND DO A DESIGN.

YOU'D HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE BID PROCESS AND ALL THAT.

SO WE WE ARE WAITING FOR OCTOBER 1ST, AND HOPEFULLY WITH AN APPROVAL FROM YOU ALL, WE'LL BE ABLE TO MOVE THAT FORWARD.

OKAY, I GOT YOU. THANK YOU. WHY ARE THE FUEL SALES DOWN? THAT SEEMS TO BE UNUSUAL TO ME. WELL, THEY'RE NOT DOWN, SO WE THE WE'RE FUELING.

THE ISSUE IS, IS THOSE TANKS WITH THE AGE AND THE CONDITION OF IT.

WE HAVE INSPECTIONS THAT ARE DONE THROUGH FTP.

AND THOSE REQUIREMENTS THAT THEY HAVE FOR US IS HAVE BASICALLY GOTTEN TO THE POINT WHERE THEY'VE TOLD US YOU NEED TO GET IT REPLACED OR YOU'RE GOING TO JEOPARDIZE BEING ABLE TO OPERATE THIS. IT ALSO IMPACTS INSURANCE AND WHAT OUR INSURANCE IS ABLE TO COVER BECAUSE OF THE AGE OF IT.

AND THEN WE TALK ABOUT THE OUTSIDE OF ALL THAT TAKEN OUT, THAT THE ENVIRONMENTAL THING COMPONENT WHERE WE DON'T WANT SOMETHING TO HAPPEN AND THAT CAUSES THAT ISSUE. SO THAT'S KIND OF BEEN THE THING THAT HAS HAS MORPHED INTO WE'RE IN THE SITUATION NOW WHERE WE'VE GOT TO ACT OR WE'RE GOING TO BE IN A BAD POSITION. AND THE OTHER THING IS, JUST BECAUSE NET GROSS SALES ARE DOWN DOESN'T MEAN THAT SALES ARE DOWN, BECAUSE REMEMBER, IT FLUCTUATES WITH PRICE AND YOU HAVE THE MARKUP ON IT.

PLUS, THEN THE CORRESPONDING DISCOUNT DOESN'T MEAN YOU'RE SELLING LESS FUEL.

SO IF YOU LOOK THE DELTA BETWEEN 20, 23, 24 AND 25 IS 1 MILLION 749,000,614 AND AN ESTIMATE 01,000,006 IN THAT THREE YEAR GAS PRICES ARE GOING UP HERE AND THERE.

BUT IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN YOUR CONSUMPTION OR THE OTHER.

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WE WANT TO HAVE ENOUGH BUDGETED. REVENUES AND EXPENSES MOVE TOGETHER.

AND SO IT'S REALLY A LEVEL OF FUNDING TO TO SO YOU'RE IN POSITION TO REACT EITHER TO ADVERSE GAS PRICES OR FAVORABLE.

YOU'RE IN POSITION EITHER WAY. OKAY. AND ARE WE NOT ABLE TO.

THANK YOU. I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT FACTOR AND THE BAIT SALES.

SO WHERE ARE WE? ARE WE HAVING A HARD TIME KEEPING BAIT OR WE'RE SELLING.

I MEAN, WE SELL BAIT, BUT YOU'VE GOT A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT DECIDE THEY WANT TO GO AND CATCH THEIR OWN.

SO IT'S NOT ALWAYS THOSE ARE GOING TO FLUCTUATE DEPENDING ON HOW IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO TAKE THE TIME AND ENERGY TO DO IT THEMSELVES OR IF THEY WANT TO GO AND PULL THAT OR PAY THAT PRICE WITH US. BUT WHAT HELPS WITH THAT IS ATTRACTING PEOPLE IN FOR FUELING AND BEING ABLE TO PROVIDE THINGS WITHIN THAT STORE THAT ATTRACTS THEM TO GO IN THERE. AND IT'S JUST LIKE A CONVENIENCE STORE. WHEN THEY WALK IN, THEY START SAYING, OH, THEY GOT BAIT, THEY GOT ICE, AND THEY GOT A T SHIRT, THEY GOT HATS.

YOU KNOW WHAT? THAT'S KIND OF THE HOW WE WE TRY TO WORK THAT I'M SURE THERE'S AN INDIVIDUAL THAT UNDERSTANDS THAT PROCESS UP THERE.

SO. BUT YOU KNOW, THEY'LL FLUCTUATE. WE COULD HAVE MORE BAIT SALES NEXT YEAR AND LESS SELLS FOR SODA.

JUST DEPENDS. I JUST IT'S JUST SOMETHING I'VE NEVER RECOGNIZED AS BAIT.

SALES HAVE ALWAYS. IT'S ALWAYS UP. SO ANYWAY, EXCEPT FOR DURING COVID.

BUT WITH THAT, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON YES VICE MAYOR, JUST REAL QUICKLY ON THE ON THE FUEL TANKS, WHAT'S THE ANTICIPATED LIFE OF A NEW TANK ONCE IT'S IN PLACE? DON'T YOU GO ABOUT 2025 YEARS IS WHAT YOU CAN GET OUT OF A FUEL TANK.

OKAY. WHAT? YOU SHOULD GET OUT OF YOUR FUEL TANK, I SHOULD SAY.

YEAH. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, SO TENNIS CENTER, OUR LAST ENTERPRISES BE OUR LAST SECTION.

HERE'S A LOOK OF WHAT THE STAFFING IS. CURRENTLY, WE ARE FULLY STAFFED, AND I DO LIKE TO STILL TAKE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SAY THAT WE DID RECEIVE THAT OUTSTANDING TENNIS FACILITY AWARD.

AND THIS STAFF THAT YOU SEE RIGHT HERE WAS A GOOD PART OF THAT.

SO KUDOS TO THEM. REVENUE A LITTLE OVER $1 MILLION WITH MEMBERSHIP. MEMBERSHIP HAS DONE WELL. THEY'VE ALSO DONE REALLY WELL WITH LESSONS.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE TREND ON THE LESSONS AND THEY CONTINUE TO INCREASE THAT NUMBER, AND WE WANT THAT TO CONTINUE TO GO UP.

BUT WE'VE ALSO GOT A LOT OF EMPHASIS ON THE CONDITION WE'VE HAD YOU KNOW, WE HAD TO GO IN AND COMPLETELY REDO THAT AFTER THE HURRICANES. AND OUR COURTS WERE IN BETTER SHAPE THAN ANY COURT.

I WOULD PUT IT UP AGAINST ANY COURT IN THIS COUNTY.

AND IT'S OBVIOUS BECAUSE WE GOT A NATIONAL AWARD.

BUT YOU KNOW, YOU MAINTAIN THAT LEVEL OF FACILITY AND YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE PEOPLE COMING IN AND THAT'S GOING TO HELP WITH THAT REVENUE, WHICH IS IMPORTANT TO US. BUT WE'VE YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO CONTINUE TO KEEP THAT TREND.

THEY'VE DONE WELL WITH OUR CLAY IN MAY TOURNAMENT.

THEY'VE DONE SOME ENHANCEMENTS. YOU SEE A PICTURE THERE ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE.

IT HAS QUITE A FEW PEOPLE. IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN.

YOU SHOULD GO AND ATTEND. IT'S BEEN A GREAT SOCIAL EVENT AS WELL.

SO THE TENNIS CENTER EXPENSE ONE POINT OR A LITTLE OVER $1 MILLION.

AS YOU SEE THERE AGAIN, PROFESSIONAL OR PERSONNEL SERVICES AT 45,000.

11.2% CITY ADMINISTRATION FEE THERE THAT HAD A SLIGHT INCREASE.

PROFESSIONAL SERVICES WITH A SLIGHT INCREASE IN PROFESSIONAL SERVICES IS WHERE WE PAY THOSE LESSONS FROM.

SO WE SPEND THAT MONEY. WE'RE MAKING MONEY ON THE TO COVER THAT AND FROM THE BACK SIDE.

SO THAT IS A OFFSETTING REVENUE ACCOUNT. REPAIR AND MAINTENANCE ABOUT THE SAME.

WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT. THAT'S AGAIN THAT'S HOW WE PAY FOR CLAY AND STUFF WHEN WE'VE GOT TO REPLACE IT.

SPECIAL EVENTS. WE INCREASE THAT BY 4000 BECAUSE OF ENHANCEMENTS THAT THEY'VE DONE WITH THE TOURNAMENTS.

AND THEY WANT TO CONTINUE TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THAT LEVEL OF TOURNAMENT AND THEN THE RESALE.

WE ALSO ARE GOING TO TRY TO INCREASE SOME OF THE RESALE ITEMS THERE, TO TRY TO INCREASE SOME OF OUR REVENUE.

WE'VE GOT SOME DECREASES THERE. THE NUMBER THAT YOU SEE HERE AGAIN, A LITTLE OVER A MILLION IS DOES NOT INCLUDE A $80,000 CAP.

THAT $80,000 IS TO GO BACK THROUGH AND RESURFACE EVERY OTHER YEAR.

WE TRY TO RESURFACE HALF OF THE COURTS. WE DID DO FOUR OF THEM THIS YEAR.

SO WE WANT TO GO AHEAD AND TAKE CARE OF THE OTHER EIGHT.

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AFTER THAT, AS OUR GOAL, AS LONG AS THE COURTS ARE STAYING UP TO PAR.

AND THAT'S NOT A GOLF PUN, BUT SO HERE'S A BREAKOUT.

REVENUE ONE POINT. WELL, $1,000,059. EXPENSE 1,000,056 708.

THAT'S A SHOWS A NET OF THE 2292, AND THAT IS TAKES ME TO THE END OF MY.

SO THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY. THANK YOU.

YES. VICE MAYOR. YOU'RE RUNNING THAT REVENUE AND EXPENSE REALLY KIND OF LOOSE THERE.

$2,200? NO. A GOOD JOB. I THINK THAT'S PRETTY TIGHT.

IT'S GOOD. WELL, WE GOT WE GOT CUT 42,000 THE OTHER YEAR, SO WE'RE.

YEAH. HEY, LISTEN, I JUST WANTED TO CIRCLE BACK REAL QUICK ON THAT.

ON THE DOC. THE CITY DOC. WHAT KIND OF ENVIRONMENT? THAT FUEL TANK. WHERE DOES IT RESIDE? IS IT UNDER THE DOC? WHERE IS IT? IT'S CURRENTLY, IF YOU GO INTO THAT ROUNDABOUT AT THE END WHERE YOU'RE GOING, IT'S UNDER THE GROUND, RIGHT TO THE RIGHT OF WHERE YOU WALK ON TO THE CITY, DOC.

SO WHERE I WAS GOING WITH THAT? YOU HEARD THE DISCUSSION WE HAD WITH BOB MIDDLETON ABOUT BARNACLES AND CRUSTACEANS, THOSE KIND OF THINGS. IS THERE ANYTHING YOU'VE SEEN AS SOMEBODY WHO'S WORKING IN THE CITY DOCK THAT ATTRACTS MUCH LESS OF THESE BARNACLES? I DON'T KNOW THAT I'VE SEEN ANYTHING THAT ATTRACTS THEY HAVE ALL SORTS OF DIFFERENT TECHNOLOGY OUT THAT CLAIMS THAT IT CAN DO CERTAIN THINGS, BUT THE LEVEL OF WHAT YOU HAVE TO GO IN AND EXPENSE THAT IT COSTS IS IT ALMOST DOESN'T BECOME.

YEAH. BECAUSE YOU CAN HAVE SOMEBODY COME IN AND ACTUALLY CLEAN IT PERIODICALLY FOR CHEAPER THAN WHAT YOU WOULD SPEND ON THOSE ITEMS. GOT IT. THANK YOU. HAVE WE ACTUALLY. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP. BECAUSE THAT IS A MAINTENANCE ISSUE THAT WE USED TO HAVE A DOCK MASTER THAT FOR SOME REASON GOT INTO THE WATER AND DID IT HIMSELF. BUT NOW WE HAVE A CONTRACT. WE DO. WE HAVE A CONTRACTOR THAT WE BRING IN WHEN WE DO THAT, WE DON'T HAVE OUR STAFF GOING IN AND DOING THAT.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

OKAY. COUNCIL. WE ARE DEFINITELY DUE FOR LUNCH, SO IF WE COULD TAKE A 20 MINUTE BREAK.

I THINK LUNCH IS IN THE BACK. YES. OKAY. AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK AND RESUME WITH TECHNOLOGY SERVICES.

OKAY. WE'RE BACK FROM LUNCH, CONTINUING ON WITH OUR WORKSHOP FOR BUDGETING.

WE'RE MOVING ON TO TECHNOLOGY SERVICES. GOOD AFTERNOON.

GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. ANDREW HUNTER, TECHNOLOGY DIRECTOR.

SO WE'LL WALK YOU RIGHT INTO INTO OUR PROPOSED BUDGET.

FROM AN OVERVIEW PERSPECTIVE, I JUST WANT TO TOUCH ON.

YOU'RE AWARE OF. YOU KNOW, IN ADDITION TO WORKSTATIONS AND AUDIO VISUAL, RIGHT? WE MAINTAIN AND OPERATE TWO DATA CENTERS IN THE CITY SO THAT FROM A NETWORKING PERSPECTIVE, WE HAVE OUR OWN FIBER OPTIC NETWORK. WE MANAGE PUBLIC SAFETY'S CONNECTIVITY FROM THEIR MOBILE DEVICES TO TO NOT ONLY THE COUNTY, BUT BACK INTO OUR NETWORK. SO ALL OF THAT KEEPS US KEEPS US PRETTY BUSY.

FROM A PROPOSED BUDGET PERSPECTIVE. $4,747,000, WHICH IS UP 12% YEAR OVER YEAR.

IF YOU LOOK ON THE BOTTOM LEFT JUST FOR A REFERENCE, THAT'S UP ABOUT $513,000 YEAR OVER YEAR.

AND REALLY THE MAIN COMPONENTS OF THAT ARE THE THE NON-OPERATING, THE NON-OPERATING PIECE, PERSONNEL SERVICES AND SOFTWARE MAINTENANCE. AND I'LL WALK YOU THROUGH THAT IN THE IN THE FOLLOWING PAGE.

SO REALLY THE DRIVER OF THOSE INCREASES, THE SIGNIFICANT DRIVERS OF THE INCREASES.

OUR PERSONNEL SERVICES ARE UP $147,000 YEAR OVER YEAR.

WE JUST BROUGHT ON A SENIOR NETWORK SPECIALIST ONTO OUR TEAM.

SO THOSE EXPENSES FLOW INTO THE FULL EXPENSE OF FLOW INTO NEXT YEAR.

AND AS YOU'RE AWARE, YOU RECENTLY APPROVED A PUBLIC SAFETY TECHNICIAN, AND HE'S BEEN ON BOARD SINCE MARCH, I BELIEVE, AND THOSE FULL EXPENSES WILL FLOW INTO INTO NEXT YEAR AS WELL.

WE'VE SPENT SOME TIME FROM A SOFTWARE PERSPECTIVE, THIS $189,000 INCREASE WORKING WITH SOME OF THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS, THESE THESE APPLICATIONS THAT ARE LISTED, PARTICULARLY WITH HR AND WITH THE CLERK IN TERMS OF BRINGING THOSE SOFTWARE LICENSE EXPENSES INTO IT SO THAT WE COULD

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MANAGEMENT TOOLS TO HELP US GET BETTER EYES INTO WHAT'S HAPPENING IN OUR IN OUR NETWORK.

SO THAT. WHAT I REALLY LOVE TO BE ABLE TO DO IS TO GET TO A POINT WHERE I KNOW THERE'S A PROBLEM BEFORE THE CUSTOMERS KNOW THAT THERE'S A PROBLEM.

YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW WE GET CALLS INTO THE HELP DESK, AND THAT'S OFTEN HOW I LEARN WHAT'S WHAT'S WHAT'S BROKEN OR BREAKING IN THE ENVIRONMENT.

AND WE WANT TO GET FURTHER OUT IN FRONT OF THAT BY INVESTING IN THOSE TOOLS.

WE'VE HAD ADDITIONAL REQUIREMENTS TO PURCHASE SOME MICROSOFT LICENSES.

PART OF THAT IS THE CITY'S BEEN ON AN INITIATIVE TO GET ACCESS TO EMAILS ACROSS TO ALL OF THE EMPLOYEES.

THAT'S BEEN DRIVEN BY, OBVIOUSLY, THE HR SYSTEMS AND PARTICULARLY THE NEW BUCKET LIST TO TO GET THAT OUT TO ALL EMPLOYEES.

AND THEN YEAR OVER YEAR, WE ALWAYS HAVE PLANNED INCREASE IN TERMS OF THE AN UPTICK IN LICENSING COSTS.

AND THAT'S THE $33,000 THERE. WHEN I ADD TO THAT $57,645 FOR OUR NON-DISCRETIONARY ITEMS, THE ITEMS THAT ARE CHARGED TO US FROM A DEPARTMENTAL PERSPECTIVE, YOU KNOW, TRANSPORTATION, INSURANCE AND ADMINISTRATION THAT THOSE ALL OF THOSE EXPENSES TOGETHER ADD UP TO OVER THAT $513,000 INCREASE THAT I SHOWED ON THE PRIOR PAGE.

SO THE POINT THERE BEING THAT, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE THE DRIVERS AND REALLY THE NET AD FROM AN IT TECHNOLOGY PERSPECTIVE, ARE THOSE THOSE IT MANAGEMENT AND MONITORING TOOLS.

THIS TALKS ABOUT STAFFING. SO WE'RE AUTHORIZED FOR TEN PEOPLE STAFFING WISE ON THE IT TEAM.

WE ARE STAFFED AT TEN. SO WE'RE WE'RE WE HAVE EVERYONE FULLY ON BOARD WHICH WHICH IS A NICE PLACE TO BE.

AND THESE FOLLOWING PAGES REALLY JUST GET INTO A LITTLE MORE DETAIL.

THE OVERALL THAT THAT FIRST WHITE BOX TALKS ABOUT THAT $513,000 INCREASE, THAT'S A 12.1% INCREASE.

AND THEN WE GET INTO I MENTIONED PERSONNEL SERVICES.

TV VIDEO PRODUCTION IS UP A BIT BECAUSE WE'VE PURCHASED SOME SOFTWARE IN THAT SPACE AND AGAIN ARE CHARGING THAT INTO THE IT DEPARTMENT PROFESSIONAL SERVICES. WE WERE ABLE TO TO BRING DOWN A LITTLE BIT, BUT THAT'S REALLY JUST BALANCING THAT BETWEEN OUR SOFTWARE MAINTENANCE LINE ITEM, WHICH HAS GONE UP SIGNIFICANTLY FOR THE REASONS I MENTIONED ON THE PRIOR PAGE IN TERMS OF CONSOLIDATING LICENSING INTO IT.

THAT'S REALLY THE NET I HAD IN TERMS OF RUNNING THAT THAT PAST YOU.

AND I'LL ENTERTAIN ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE. THANK YOU.

ANY QUESTIONS? WILL THERE BE A DAY THAT THE COMPUTERS DON'T SHUT DOWN ON INTERNET? WELL, WE, WE'VE WE'VE MADE SOME REALLY GOOD PROGRESS ON THAT.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WERE IN ATTENDANCE AT THE LAST GATHERING WE HAD AT BAKER PARK, THE LAST LUNCHEON A COUPLE OF WEEKS BACK.

WE HAD A PAL POWER OUTAGE. WE HAD THAT FRIDAY AND MONDAY, AND OUR IT SYSTEMS LARGELY CAME BACK UNSCATHED.

WHEN I SAY LARGELY, THERE ARE ALWAYS A COUPLE OF ISSUES WHEN PARTICULAR FILES ARE OPEN THAT CAUSES YOU TO.

YOU KNOW, WITH THE MICROSOFT PRODUCTIVITY SUITE AND SUCH TO LOSE SOME DATA.

BUT OUR AIR CONDITIONING, WHICH WE JUST INVESTED IN, DIDN'T LOSE A BEAT.

AND OUR DATA CENTER WITH OUR UPS YOU KNOW, STAYED UP.

SO THAT WAS IN THE PAST. THAT WOULD HAVE COST US HALF A DAY'S WORTH OF WORK EACH DAY.

GREAT. GREAT NEWS. ANYTHING ELSE? YES. VICE MAYOR.

WELL, THANK YOU FOR FOR ALL THE WORK THAT YOU'VE DONE ON THIS AND FOR WHICH YOU BRING TO THE CITY AND TO OUR COMMUNITY.

EVERY YEAR ABOUT THIS TIME I TALK ABOUT OUR RELIANCE ON TAIWAN AND THE KIND OF ITEMS THAT TAIWAN PRODUCES, AND THEY'RE IN A UNIQUE POSITION AS IT RELATES TO SEMICONDUCTORS AND SOME OTHER THINGS IN THE I'VE SAID THE SAME THING AND HAD DISCUSSIONS WITH THE COMPANY THAT I WORK FOR TO WORK WITH AS A FRANCHISEE BECAUSE OF THE SAME REASONS WE DEPEND ON SO HEAVILY ON COMPUTERS AND OTHER EQUIPMENT.

BUT MY ASK NOT TO GET INTO THE WEEDS ON IT, BUT PLEASE TAKE THE TIME.

BE FAMILIAR THAT IF ACCESS TO TAIWAN WAS GOING TO BECOME PROBLEMATIC, HOW IT WOULD NEGATIVELY IMPACT THE CITY OF

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BUT IT'LL BE TOO LATE BY THEN. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU DO.

I'M GLAD THAT CHANGES ARE HAPPENING. IT'S ALL GOOD.

APPRECIATE IT. THANKS FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU.

GOOD AFTERNOON. GOOD AFTERNOON. MAYOR AND COUNCIL CHARLOTTE LOWELL, HUMAN RESOURCES DIRECTOR.

THE HUMAN RESOURCES DEPARTMENT OPERATES FROM THREE FUNDS THE GENERAL FUND AND TWO INTERNAL SERVICES FUND FOR RISK MANAGEMENT AND EMPLOYEE BENEFITS. I WILL START WITH THE HR GENERAL FUND.

THE TOTAL PROPOSED BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR 2526 IS 1,069,609, WHICH IS IN ABOUT A 5.7% INCREASE FROM THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR. THERE ARE SIX EMPLOYEES THAT ARE FUNDED OUT OF THE HR GENERAL FUND AND OUR MAJOR OPERATING EXPENSES. YEAR TO YEAR CONTINUE TO BE OUR PROFESSIONAL SERVICES MEDICAL SERVICES, MAINTENANCE AGREEMENTS, WHICH IS OUR TECHNOLOGY SYSTEMS, PERFORMANCE MANAGEMENT, AND EMPLOYEE TRAINING AND DEVELOPMENT.

MOVING ON TO THE RISK MANAGEMENT INTERNAL SERVICE FUND.

THIS FUND INCLUDES THE INSURANCE AND CLAIM FUNDING FOR WORKERS COMPENSATION, GENERAL LIABILITY, FLOOD, AUTO AND COLLISION, PROPERTY DAMAGE AND UNEMPLOYMENT COMPENSATION.

THE TOTAL PROPOSED BUDGET FOR THE RISK MANAGEMENT INTERNAL SERVICE FUND IS 5,289,051, WHICH IS ACTUALLY A 0.2% DECREASE FROM FISCAL YEAR 2425. AND ONE EMPLOYEE IS FUNDED OUT OF THIS ACCOUNT.

AND THAT IS OUR CITY'S RISK MANAGER. THE EXPECTED UNRESTRICTED NET ASSETS AS OF SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2025 IS 7,437,306. OUR PROJECTED REVENUE FOR FISCAL YEAR 2526 IS 04,243,651, AND THE EXPECTED EXPENDITURES FOR NEXT FISCAL YEAR IS 5,289,051.

SO THIS PUTS US AT A PROJECTED UNRESTRICTED NET POSITION AT THE END OF NEXT FISCAL YEAR, WHICH IS SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2026, AT 6,391,906. AND LASTLY, THE LAST FUND OUT OF THE HR DEPARTMENT IS THE EMPLOYEE BENEFITS INTERNAL SERVICES FUND, AND THIS FUND INCLUDES FUNDING FOR OUR HEALTH, DENTAL LIFE, LONG TERM DISABILITY, SHORT TERM DISABILITY AND OUR VISION INSURANCES.

TOTAL PROPOSED BUDGET IS 10,444,005 64, AND THAT'S ABOUT A 5% INCREASE FROM THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR.

AND THE REVENUE FOR THIS INTERNAL SERVICES FUND IS DERIVED FROM TWO SOURCES.

IT'S THE CITY'S CONTRIBUTIONS AND OUR EMPLOYEE CONTRIBUTIONS THAT MAKE UP THE EMPLOYEE BENEFITS FUND.

THE INCREASE IN HEALTH AND PRESCRIPTION CLAIMS ACCOUNT FOR THE 5% INCREASE IN THE TOTAL PROPOSED BUDGET FOR NEXT FISCAL YEAR.

AND PLEASED TO ANNOUNCE, FOR THE FOURTH YEAR IN A ROW, THE PROPOSED BUDGET ASSUMES A 0% INCREASE IN OUR PREMIUM RATES AND OUR CONTINUATION OF OUR HEALTH REIMBURSEMENT ACCOUNT.

SO WE HAVE NOT HAD A PREMIUM INCREASE FOR OUR EMPLOYEES SINCE 2022.

PRETTY INCREDIBLE. OUR EMPLOYEE BENEFITS FUND EXPECTED UNRESTRICTED NET ASSETS AS OF SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2025 IS 6,000,001. 53. EIGHT. TEN. THE BUDGETED REVENUE INTO THE ACCOUNT FOR NEXT FISCAL YEAR IS EXPECTED AT 9,917,000 TO 51. THE EXPENDITURES. 10,444,465. AND OUR NET POSITION AT PROJECTED NET POSITION AS THE END OF NEXT FISCAL YEAR IS ABOUT 5 MILLION.

626 497. AND OUR DEPARTMENT AND THE CITY CONTINUE TO BE RECOGNIZED ON A LOCAL, STATE AND NATIONAL LEVEL.

MOST RECENTLY, WE BECAME A HEALTHIEST EMPLOYERS OF SOUTH FLORIDA, WHICH IS A PRETTY INCREDIBLE DESIGNATION WHERE CIGNA HEALTHY CIGNA HEALTHY WORKFORCE DESIGNATION, FAMILY FRIENDLY BUSINESS AND ONE OF THE BEST WORKPLACES FOR COMMUTERS.

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AND THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR SUPPORT. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION AND FOR ALL YOU DO.

AND RISK MANAGEMENT AND EMPLOYEES. I JUST WE'VE HEARD A THEME TODAY.

WE REALLY NEED YOUR HELP IN MAKING SURE WE FILL THOSE POSITIONS IN OTHER DEPARTMENTS.

AND RECRUITING, YOU KNOW THAT. SO. ABSOLUTELY.

AND I WILL SAY OUR ATTRITION IS DOWN SIGNIFICANTLY.

OUR HIGHEST IN 2022 IS ABOUT 20%. WE HAVE TWO MORE MONTHS LEFT IN THE FISCAL YEAR, AND OUR ATTRITION IS JUST 8%.

SO WE ARE MAKING STRIDES WITH NOT ONLY RECRUITMENT BUT RETAINING.

WE DO HAVE SOME WORK TO FILL THESE HIGHER, HARDER POSITIONS THAT REQUIRE SPECIFIC SKILLS, AND WE ARE DEDICATED AND MAKING SURE THAT HAPPENS.

HOW WOULD YOU ADD TO THAT? LET US KNOW SPECIFICALLY WITH THOSE HARDER TO FILL POSITIONS.

LIKE WITH PLANNING, IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT YOU NEED FROM US, DON'T.

DON'T BE SHY. ABSOLUTELY. WE MAY SAY NO, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN YOU CAN'T ASK.

AND WE CERTAINLY NEED TO KNOW WHAT THE PROBLEMS ARE AND HOW WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO SOLVE IT AS A COUNCIL. ABSOLUTELY.

WELL, AS YOUR DAD WOULD SAY, GO TO THE PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM AND RECRUIT AND BUILD, AND THAT'S WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO GET YOUR EYE FROM YEARS OF WORKING WITH THEM. COUNCILMAN CHRISTMAN? YEAH. I JUST WANTED TO ECHO WHAT WAS JUST SAID, BUT TO TO FIRST CONGRATULATE CHARLOTTE AND HER TEAM AND EVERYBODY REALLY IN THE CITY, BECAUSE I JUST GOT ASKED FOR AN UPDATE OVER THE SUMMER OF THE VACANCY REPORT. AND IF LOOKING AT IT ON A TEN YEAR TREND LINE AND, YOU KNOW, WE HAD GOTTEN SORT OF PRE-COVID DURING THE COVID YEARS.

AND EVEN AFTER THAT, UP TILL ABOUT 2023. OUR VACANCY RATE WAS WELL INTO DOUBLE DIGITS.

AND AND YOU KNOW, MY EXPERIENCE FROM PRIVATE SECTOR WORK WAS THAT, YOU KNOW, RUNNING A VACANCY RATE OF 6 TO 8% IS KIND OF NORMAL.

AND SO AND WE HAD BEEN THERE SOME YEARS AGO. AND SO CHARLOTTE JUST REPORTED BRINGING IT.

WE'RE NOW AT 8% OVERALL, WHICH IS REALLY A TREMENDOUS IMPROVEMENT.

AND WHERE YOU WANT TO BE I MEAN, GETTING MUCH BELOW THAT IS EXTREMELY DIFFICULT.

HAVING SAID THAT, I THINK WHAT WE'VE SEEN TODAY IS THAT THE EXISTING VACANCIES ARE TO SOME DEGREE CONCENTRATED IN THREE DEPARTMENTS. OR LET ME PUT IT THIS WAY, MAYBE NOT ONLY IN THE NUMBER OF VACANCIES, BUT IN VACANCIES THAT ARE REMAINED VACANT FOR EXTENDED PERIODS OF TIME.

STORMWATER PLANNING AND BUILDINGS AND THOSE SEEM TO BE THE THREE, AS I SEE IT ANYWAY, THE THREE HARDEST TO FILL DEPARTMENTS OR TO GET TO A FULL COMPLEMENT OR CLOSE TO A FULL COMPLEMENT.

SO, YOU KNOW, WE KNOW WHERE THE PROBLEM IS. AND I'M NOT SAYING IT'S EASY TO FIX IT, BUT THAT'S WHERE WE OUGHT TO BE PUTTING OUR ATTENTION.

ABSOLUTELY. WELL SAID. THANK YOU COUNCIL VICE MAYOR.

AND THEN PETRONELLA THANK YOU. GOOD JOB. WITH THIS PRESENTATION, I JUST ONE SHORT THING TO SAY.

IF YOU KNOW ANY GOVERNMENTS OUT THERE THAT ARE RUNNING OUT OF MONEY, GO RECRUIT THOSE PEOPLE.

OKAY, YEAH I AGREE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

PETRONELLA, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THE 180 THEN.

FROM WHEN I FIRST STARTED ON. THIS HAS BECOME ALMOST A NON-ISSUE.

BUT I HAVE NOTICED THAT SOME OF THESE JOBS HAVE BEEN OPEN SINCE I BEGAN, AND THAT WAS THREE AND A HALF YEARS AGO.

SO THERE'S WE ARE WE ARE ON AN ISOLATED PENINSULA IN A VERY EXPENSIVE AREA TO LIVE.

AND I THINK WE OUGHT TO LOOK BROADER THAN JUST LOCAL RECRUITMENT.

AND MAYBE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'D LOVE YOU TO CONTINUE PURSUING IS OUTSOURCING.

AND ARE THERE ELEMENTS OF OF WITHIN THE DEPARTMENTS? ARE THERE ELEMENTS THAT WOULD MAKE SENSE TO OUTSOURCE? BECAUSE AFTER YEARS OF NOT BEING ABLE TO FILL IT WE KNOW THAT THESE JOBS ARE NEEDED AND FOR US TO FUNCTION AT FULL CAPACITY. AND IT JUST MAKES SENSE, YOU KNOW, THAT IF WE CAN ISOLATE THOSE KINDS OF WORKFLOWS LIKE DIRECT MAIL

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ABSOLUTELY. A BIG CHUNK OF OUR VACANCIES IS IN THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT, AND I KNOW THAT THEY HAVE REACHED OUT TO A STAFFING AGENCY ON THE ONE POSITION THAT THEY CAN'T FILL TO COME IN AND HELP. AS FAR AS OUTSOURCING, YOU KNOW, AND THE PLANNING, I HAVE TO GIVE IT TO ERICA. LIKE, THIS SUMMER, WE REALLY WORK REALLY CLOSELY WITH HER TO CREATE PROFESSIONAL BROCHURES AND PROMOTE ALL OF HER PLANNING JOBS ON VARIOUS PROFESSIONAL PLANNING RESOURCES, AND SHE'S HAD TREMENDOUS TURNOUT.

ON WE ACTUALLY HAVE A SENIOR PLANNER IN THE HIRING NOW.

BUT, YOU KNOW, WE OUR DOOR IS ALWAYS OPEN. WE CONTACT THE HIRING MANAGERS, AND WE WORK CLOSELY WITH THEM.

A LOT OF THE VACANCIES THAT CONTINUE TO REMAIN OPEN ARE YOUR VERY NICHE JOBS, LIKE A RESILIENCY PROJECT MANAGER? AGAIN, IN THE STORMWATER, NATURAL RESOURCES, THE ENGINEERS, THE PROFESSIONAL BUILDING JOBS, THOSE ARE HARD. AND STEVE HAS GOT CREATIVE, TOO.

HE'S RECLASSIFIED POSITIONS AND HE'S UPGRADED POSITIONS.

AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THEM, ESPECIALLY IN COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, TO GET THOSE POSITIONS FILLED.

PUBLIC WORKS. YOU KNOW, IT'S OUR LOWER, LOWER PAID POSITIONS.

IT'S HARD TO GET THE MAINTENANCE AND UTILITY TECHS.

SO THOSE POSITIONS THEY STAY VACANT. THEY'RE KIND OF LIKE A CONTINUOUS REVOLVING RECRUITMENT.

BUT, YOU KNOW, WE DID MAKE GREAT STRIDES WITH THE CONTRACTS AND OUR STARTING PAYS ARE VERY COMPETITIVE.

SO WE'RE HOPEFUL THAT WHEN WE CONTINUE TO MOVE THE RANGES OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS, AS IT'S MENTIONED IN THE CONTRACT, THAT THEY KIND OF HAVE A FUTURE VISION ON WHERE THEY COULD GO.

I THINK THAT ALL THOSE MOVES ARE GREAT. YOU KNOW, IN ADDITION TO LOOKING OUTSIDE OF THE WALLS OF OUR OF OUR CITY, NOT FOR PUBLIC WORKS, BECAUSE YOU NEED FEET TO THE STREET, BUT YOU KNOW, AND COMPENSATION IS ONLY ONE ELEMENT OF IT.

THERE'S, YOU KNOW, THERE'S THE CAREER PATH THING, I THINK IS IT MIGHT BE AN IMPORTANT ONE AS WELL AS OTHER THINGS THAT WE HAVEN'T EXPLORED THAT I'M SURE YOU'RE ALREADY WORKING ON. SO THANK YOU FOR THE FEEDBACK.

SO THANK YOU. OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE? OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

AND FOR YOUR DEPARTMENT AND ALL THEIR HARD WORK.

YES. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. I'LL GO AHEAD AND PICK UP FOR MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL AND MOVE THROUGH, IF THAT'S OKAY.

THAT'S IT. I WAS LOOKING TO SEE WHERE WE WERE.

OKAY. OKAY. SO AS FAR AS THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL BUDGET, JUST IT'S ACTUALLY A DECREASE OF 5771 OVER UNDER THE PRIOR YEAR'S BUDGET, BUT IT IS 5000 OR $4500 GREATER THAN THE ANTICIPATED SPEND.

SO IT WAS OVER BUDGETED A LITTLE BIT. SO THE DECREASE.

WHAT I WOULD NOTE IN THIS ONE, OPERATIONALLY, THERE'S NO CHANGE IN FOR VARIOUS EXPENSES THAT COUNCIL AND THE MAYOR HAVE.

THE ONLY THING I WOULD NOTE IS WHEN YOU APPOINT THE BLUE RIBBON COMMITTEE, AND WITH THE ELECTION COMING UP, THERE'LL BE ADDITIONAL COST.

WE DIDN'T GUESS WHAT THAT WOULD BE. WE DIDN'T BAKE ANYTHING.

I'M NOT WORRIED ABOUT IT. WHATEVER IT IS, WE'LL DEAL WITH IT AT THE TIME, BUT I DIDN'T I DIDN'T WANT AT LEAST POINT OUT THAT WE DIDN'T, LIKE, GUESS AT A NUMBER EITHER. WHATEVER THAT ENDS UP BEING, WE'LL DEAL WITH BUDGETARY.

THAT'S IT FOR THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL. UNLESS YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

OKAY. CITY MANAGER'S DEPARTMENT. A REMINDER THAT THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE CODE COMPLIANCE AND PURCHASING IS WHAT FALLS WITHIN THOSE DIVISIONS.

THE 2026 PROPOSED BUDGET AND THE CITY MANAGER'S DEPARTMENT IS 2,261,000.

AND THAT INCLUDES, AGAIN, THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE CODE COMPLIANCE AND ALL THE PURCHASING.

SPECIFICALLY IN THE CITY MANAGER'S OPERATIONS, IT'S 117,000 OVER THE PRIOR YEAR ADOPTED BUDGET.

HOWEVER, IT'S A DECREASE OF 7000 FROM THE ESTIMATED ACTUAL.

AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT, IF YOU LOOK AT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT DEPARTMENT, IT ACTUALLY JUST NEVER HAD ENOUGH APPROPRIATIONS IN IT.

I'VE HAD A THE VACANT POSITION, THE OTHER ADDITIONAL POSITION I'VE HAD, I HAVEN'T FILLED IT YET AND IT'S STILL GOING TO BE AT THAT LEVEL.

SO I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE BUDGET. YOU ALSO HAVE TO RECOGNIZE WHEN THE CITY MANAGER, A CITY MANAGER, LEAVES, ANY ACCUMULATED TIME COMES OUT OF THAT BUDGETARY ITEM.

SO IT COULD BE PART OF WHY 25 WAS UP TO THE LEVEL IT IS.

BUT I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF POINT THAT OUT. SO IT'S IT'S REALLY NOT THAT MUCH OF A CHANGE IN WHAT THE ESTIMATED ACTUAL IS.

AND IN THE CODE ENFORCEMENT DIVISION, IT'S THE SAME NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES.

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WHEN I TOOK THE PART TIME POSITION THAT IS HELPING WITH THE PIER AND THEN TOOK IT TO THE FULL TIME, THAT ADDED 0.3 ENDED UP IN THE GENERAL FUND AGAIN, YOU'VE SEEN THAT ON A SEPARATE SCREEN.

BUT IF YOU LOOKED AT THE CITY MANAGER'S, I WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT.

THERE'S NO CHANGES IN THE CODE ENFORCEMENT DIVISION OR PURCHASING DIVISION AS IT PERTAINS TO PERSONNEL AND THE PERSON THE PERSONNEL INCREASES IS THE PREDOMINANT INCREASES IN THE IN THE OPERATING BUDGETS.

AND IF THERE'S UNLESS THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS I WILL LEAVE IT AT THAT.

NO THANK YOU. AND WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT OVER.

STEFAN.

ALL RIGHT. SO THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT, BUDGET FINANCE DEPARTMENT OPERATES WITHIN FOUR SEPARATE FUNDS.

MAJORITY OF THE COST IS LOCATED WITHIN THE GENERAL FUND, WHICH IS WHERE THE ACCOUNTING AND FINANCE DIVISION RESIDES.

THAT INCLUDES 11.5 POSITIONS. YOU MAY RECALL THERE WAS A BUDGET AMENDMENT IN THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR TO ADD ONE SENIOR ACCOUNTANT POSITION.

THAT POSITION, THE FULL SALARY FOR THAT POSITION IS REFLECTED WITHIN THIS PROPOSED BUDGET.

WATER SEWER FUND IS ANOTHER FUND. AND THAT'S WHERE OUR CUSTOMER SERVICE AND BILLING FUNCTIONS ARE CHARGED TO BEACH FUND. THERE ARE SOME BEACH ADMINISTRATION COSTS RELATED TO MANAGEMENT OF THE PARKING METERS BY THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT.

AND THOSE SOME OF THOSE PERSONNEL COSTS ARE ALLOCATED TO THE BEACH FUND ACCORDINGLY.

AND THEN FOR THE SOLID WASTE FUND, THERE IS ONE POSITION THAT WAS HISTORICALLY CHARGED TO SOLID WASTE FUND THAT CONTINUES TO BE CHARGED THERE.

THERE WAS SOME CUSTOMER SERVICE FUNCTIONS THAT WERE BROUGHT INTO OUR TEAM.

AND AS A RESULT OF THAT, WE'VE BENEFITED TREMENDOUSLY IN THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO STAFF A PARKING STICKER DESK ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE LOBBY. AND THAT'S REALLY HELPED US A LOT IN TERMS OF MAINTAINING A MORE QUICK SERVICE TO CUSTOMERS AND KEEPING THE LINE SHORTER FOR EVERYBODY COMING IN.

ALL RIGHT. AND THIS IS JUST KIND OF A SUMMARY OF THE COSTS.

YOU KNOW, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, THERE WAS A, YOU KNOW, THAT ONE SENIOR ACCOUNTANT POSITION.

THAT'S PART OF WHAT THE CHANGE IS BETWEEN THE ADOPTED 2425 AND 2526 FOR PERSONNEL, VERY MINIMAL CHANGE TO OPERATING COSTS.

AND YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THESE ARE REFLECTED ARE THE NEGOTIATED SALARY INCREASES AS WELL.

AND YOU KNOW FOR OUR CUSTOMER SERVICE FOLKS, THEY'RE CHARGED, AS I SAID EARLIER, OUT OF THE WATER AND SEWER FUND.

AND SO THIS CHART REPRESENTS THOSE COSTS. REALISTICALLY, THE THE DIFFERENCE IN PERSONNEL IS A LITTLE MISLEADING.

IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT THE ESTIMATED YEAR END FOR 2425 COMES TO, IT'S MUCH CLOSER TO WHAT THE 2526 FIGURE IS.

AND IT HAS TO DO WITH THE MID-YEAR CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS THAT WERE COMPLETED.

OKAY. AND AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, SOLID WASTE FUND.

OKAY. NOW THIS SLIDE FOR BEACH FUND ADMINISTRATION THIS KIND OF SHOWS WHAT THE CHANGES ARE.

AND OF COURSE THE THE LARGEST, LARGEST ONE THERE YOU SEE IS CAPITAL.

AND THAT'S BECAUSE OF COURSE, WE HAVE A LOT OF CONSTRUCTION COSTS THAT WERE ENCUMBERED IN 24, 25 RELATED TO THE PIER RECONSTRUCTION. AND SO THOSE ARE NOT INCLUDED IN THE 25, 26 PROPOSED BUDGET.

AND I ALSO JUST WANT TO MAKE MENTION IN THE PERSONNEL SIDE THERE.

THAT INCREASE HAS TO DO WITH THE FULL TIME POSITION RELATED TO LARGELY ATTRIBUTED TO WORK ON THE BEACH FUND AND THE PIER PROJECTS.

ALL RIGHT. AND THIS SLIDE JUST KIND OF SUMMARIZES WHAT I JUST SAID.

THERE ARE KIND OF SOME SOME MINOR INCREASES TO OPERATING EXPENSES RELATED TO, YOU KNOW, SERVICES THAT ARE PAID FOR OUT OF THE BEACH FUND.

THERE THERE WERE REDUCTIONS, OF COURSE TO THE EQUIPMENT SERVICES AND INTER-DEPARTMENTAL BILLING.

AND THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, HELPFUL TO THE BEACH FUND IN TERMS OF THE EXPENSES.

THERE IS GOING TO BE DEBT PAYMENT FOR THE PIER RECONSTRUCTION PROJECT.

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AND SO THE INTEREST FOR THOSE COSTS IS ALREADY, YOU KNOW, BEING PAID.

AND THEN, YOU KNOW, OF COURSE, THERE WOULD BE PRINCIPAL PAYMENTS AS WELL, COMMENSURATE WITH WHEN THOSE CASH OUTFLOWS ARE ACTUALLY OCCURRING.

ALL RIGHT. NOW FOR THIS SLIDE. WANTED TO SHOW THAT THERE THERE IS A SLIGHT REDUCTION UNDER PARKING TICKETS AND LATE FEES. AND IT'S OUR UNDERSTANDING THAT A LOT OF THAT CAN BE ATTRIBUTED TO CLOSURE OF CERTAIN BEACH FUND FACILITIES.

YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD PROLONGED CLOSURE OF OF VARIOUS BEACH ACCESSES, DEPENDING ON WHAT THE RECONSTRUCTION STATUS HAS BEEN.

OF COURSE, THEY'RE CLOSED FOR SAFETY PURPOSES.

REOPENED. AND THEN, OF COURSE, NOW WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF RECONSTRUCTION AS WELL.

SO, YOU KNOW, THE THAT'S WHAT WE BELIEVE IS LARGELY DRIVING THAT REDUCTION ON THE PARKING PARKING FEES SIDE.

AND THEN THERE'S, OF COURSE, THE TDC PROCEEDS.

THOSE ARE REFLECTED BELOW. YOU'LL RECALL THAT IN THE MOST RECENT TDC AGREEMENT, THERE WAS A, AN ADVANCE GIVEN TO THE CITY FOR RELATED TO THE PIER OPERATING COSTS.

AND THAT WOULD HELP WITH THE, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUS OUTFLOWS OF CASH RELATED TO THE RECONSTRUCTION EFFORT.

AND SO ALL OF ALL THOSE ARE DELINEATED BELOW IN SEPARATE LINES.

ALSO HAVE YOU KNOW, THE THE BOND PROCEEDS ARE REFLECTED OF 11,000,005 MILLION IN STATE GRANTS, ALL RELATED TO THE PIER PROJECT. DID WANT TO ALSO MAKE MENTION THAT THE FEMA LINE OF 7 MILLION, OF COURSE, LIKE THAT WAS A KIND OF A LONG CONTINUUM.

AND ALTHOUGH THE PROJECT IS NOT YET OFFICIALLY OBLIGATED BY FEMA, THE PRELIMINARY COSTING IS LOOKING QUITE FAVORABLE.

AND WE'RE ANTICIPATING THAT, YOU KNOW, MORE IN THE RANGE OF 10 MILLION.

AND SLIGHTLY ABOVE, HOPEFULLY, IS WHERE WE'LL END UP WITH THAT ON THE FEMA SIDE.

ALL RIGHT. AND THEN THIS PAGE IS JUST MORE, MORE OR LESS A SUMMARY OF WHERE WE THINK THE FUND BALANCE WILL SHAKE OUT FOR THE BEACH FUND INCLUDING, OF COURSE, THE REVENUES AND EXPENSES IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET.

AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THE UNRESTRICTED NET POSITION IS ALSO SHOWN AS A TREND LINE.

AND A LOT OF THIS INFORMATION CAN BE LOCATED ON PAGE 201 OF THE BUDGET BOOK.

AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE UNLESS THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU. COUNCIL. ANY QUESTIONS? YES. COUNCIL MEMBER.

CHRISTMANN. JUST ONE. AND, YOU KNOW, I NEVER REALLY FOCUSED ON THIS, I GUESS, IN PAST YEARS.

STEFAN. BUT YOU KNOW, THE THE CUSTOMER SERVICE SIDE OF THE DEPARTMENT AS IT RELATES TO WATER AND SEWER AND SOLID WASTE IS ENUMERATED IN TERMS OF SOME POSITIONS.

BUT YOU KNOW, FROM A BILLING STANDPOINT, WE HAVE OBVIOUSLY A CONSOLIDATED BILL FOR WATER AND SEWER, SOLID WASTE AND STORMWATER. RIGHT. AND SO JUST OUT OF CURIOSITY, WHY IS THERE MONEY? WHY IS THERE, IS THERE? CHARGES, IF YOU WILL.

BACK TO THE WATER AND SEWER FUND AND THE SOLID WASTE FUND FOR CUSTOMER FACING STAFF, BUT NOT THE STORMWATER FUND.

I MEAN, I GUESS HISTORICALLY, I CAN'T SPEAK TO THAT.

I CAN SAY THERE'S A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF STAFF EFFORT THAT GOES INTO THE METER READING COMPONENT AND THE CALCULATION OF METER CHARGES.

I THINK THAT IF YOU REALLY LOOK AT THE WELL, THAT'S FOR THE BEACH FUND.

OH, METER READING I SEE AS IT RELATES TO. YEAH.

YES OR NOT PARKING METERS. I'M AT WATER. WATER METERS.

YES. YEAH. SO APPROPRIATION OF BILLS AND THAT SORT OF THING IS MORE ON THAT SIDE THAN IT IS FOR THE STORMWATER SIDE.

MR.. CHRIS, THERE'S TWOFOLD. ONE IS HE'S CORRECT.

IT'S NOT THE METER BILLING, BUT THE ADMINISTRATIVE FUNCTION IN ANSWERING PHONE CALLS.

IF YOU REFER TO PAGE 245, YOU HAVE ONE LINE ITEM WHICH IS CALLED IT'S 5301 50 AND IT'S THE UTILITY BILLING ADMIN FEE THAT IS DONE BY VIRTUE OF A CHARGEBACK TO THE WATER DEPARTMENT MEANING, OR A PAYBACK TO THE WATER DEPARTMENT TO OFFSET WHAT THEY'RE PAYING IN THAT FUND. SO IT'S ACTUALLY ON PAGE 245. YEAH.

530150 IS THE ACCOUNT, AND IT'S A $40,000 ALLOCATION THAT PAYS MONEY BACK TO THE WATER SEWER FUND FOR THE EXECUTION OF ISSUING THE STORMWATER UTILITY BILL.

OKAY. SO THAT'S WHERE INTERNAL EQUITY, IF YOU WILL, IS ACHIEVED.

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THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL I HAD. PERFECT. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU. THAT TAKES US TO THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE, MRS. HRABOWSKI. AND.

GOOD AFTERNOON. MAYOR. MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. WELCOME TO THE 20 2526 BUDGET PRESENTATION FOR THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE.

I'M PATRICIA RAMOS, YOUR CITY CLERK, AND I AM PLEASED TO SHARE WITH YOU SOME HIGHLIGHTS OF OUR ACCOMPLISHMENTS OVER THE PAST YEAR, AS WELL AS OUR GOALS GOING INTO THE NEXT YEAR.

DESPITE THE CONTINUING ONGOING CHALLENGES FROM RISING COSTS AND INFLATION, THERE ARE NO PROPOSED INCREASES IN OUR OPERATING BUDGET FOR THE UPCOMING FISCAL YEAR, A REFLECTION OF OUR COMMITMENT OF ALIGNING WITH CITY COUNCIL PRIORITIES WHILE MAINTAINING EXCELLENT CUSTOMER SERVICE. HERE WE COMPARE THE 2425 ADOPTED BUDGET TO THE 2526 PROPOSED BUDGET.

THE PROPOSED BUDGET INCREASE OF 9.1% IS FOR PERSONNEL SERVICES AND AS I STATED, THERE ARE NO ADDITIONAL CHANGES OR INCREASES IN OPERATING COSTS. THE TWO SIGNIFICANT OPERATING EXPENSES THAT WE DO INCUR ARE FOR LEGAL ADVERTISING WITH THE NEWSPAPER, AND FOR CODIFYING SUPPLEMENTS TO THE CODE OF ORDINANCES OR THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WITH NEW LEGISLATION.

OVER THE LAST YEAR, OUR OFFICE BROUGHT IN $2,700 IN SPECIAL SERVICES FOR PUBLIC RECORDS REQUESTS, 8000 FROM THE ETHICS COMMISSION FOR ADMINISTRATIVE SUPPORT, 3000 REIMBURSEMENTS FOR PETITIONER RELATED ADVERTISING COSTS AND RECORDING FEES. AND ADDITIONALLY, WE RETURNED APPROXIMATELY $80,000 TO THE GENERAL FUND.

FUNDS THAT WERE ORIGINALLY EARMARKED FOR A POSITION REQUIRING LASER EXPERIENCE.

SINCE WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO FIND A QUALIFIED CANDIDATE, WE'RE NOW CONSIDERING RECLASSIFYING THAT POSITION TO AN EXECUTIVE ASSISTANT POSITION TO BETTER SUPPORT OUR NEEDS. OUR BUDGET BEGINS ON PAGE 47 OF THE BUDGET BOOK AND LISTS MANY ACCOMPLISHMENTS FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR, BUT I JUST WANT TO HIGHLIGHT A COUPLE OF THEM.

OVER THE PAST YEAR, WE MADE GREAT STRIDES IN MODERNIZING OUR OPERATIONS.

WE SUCCESSFULLY LAUNCHED THE LASER FISH REPOSITORY, IMPROVING OUR DIGITAL RECORD KEEPING.

WORKING ALONGSIDE WITH GRANICUS AND TECHNOLOGY SERVICES DEPARTMENT, WE COORDINATED THE GRANICUS SOFTWARE UPGRADE CALLED SWAGIT, WHICH I'M EXCITED TO ANNOUNCE OFFICIALLY LAUNCHES WITH THIS WORKSHOP MEETING TODAY IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE BUILDING OFFICIAL AND HARRIS COMPUTER.

I ALSO ASSISTED WITH THE CONTRACT DETAILS AND DRAFTED LEGISLATION TO IMPLEMENT THE QUEST'S RECORDS MANAGEMENT SYSTEM FOR BACKING UP THE BUILDING, PERMITTING RECORDS THAT ARE IN CITY VIEW. THESE TECHNOLOGY ENHANCEMENTS NOT ONLY BOOST OUR INTERNAL EFFICIENCY, BUT IT ALSO MAKES IT EASIER FOR THE PUBLIC TO ACCESS IMPORTANT INFORMATION.

THIS SLIDE SHOWS THE MEETING HOURS MARKED BY OUR OFFICE OVER THE PAST FIVE YEARS, WHILE OURS HAVE DECREASED BY ABOUT 100 SINCE 2022.

IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT FROM 2014 TO 2020, THE AVERAGE WAS JUST 350 HOURS PER YEAR.

EVEN WITH THE RECENT DECLINE. WE'RE STILL HANDLING OVER 100 MORE HOURS ANNUALLY COMPARED TO THAT EARLIER PERIOD.

SO HOW DID WE MANAGE THE INCREASE? WELL, OF COURSE, TECHNOLOGY PLAYED A HUGE ROLE.

BY ADOPTING DIGITAL TOOLS AND CONTINUALLY SEEKING OUT SYSTEM UPGRADES.

OUR OFFICE HAS BEEN ABLE TO KEEP UP WITH THE DEMANDS, ESSENTIALLY DOUBLING OUR MEETING HOURS WITHOUT DOUBLING OUR STAFF.

THE NUMBER OF PUBLIC RECORDS REQUESTS CONTINUES TO GROW STEADILY EACH YEAR, WITH A SIGNIFICANT RISE DURING THE PANDEMIC.

THE SHIFT TO PROVIDING DIGITAL RECORDS HAS MADE IT EASIER FOR THE PUBLIC TO SUBMIT REQUESTS AND CONTRIBUTING TO THE CONSISTENT ANNUAL INCREASES.

IN FISCAL YEAR 2023. WE PROCESSED AROUND 4100 REQUESTS.

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DEMAND OFTEN SPIKES IN RESPONSE TO PLANNING, ZONING AND DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITY AND ALSO IN AREAS WHEN THERE'S HEIGHTENED MEDIA ATTENTION. OUR OFFICE ALSO TRACKS THE TIME SPENT FULFILLING THOSE REQUESTS, AND THIS YEAR WE ESTIMATE ABOUT 2100 STAFF HOURS WERE DEDICATED TO PUBLIC RECORDS, AN INCREASE OF OVER 250 HOURS OVER THE PREVIOUS YEAR.

LOOKING AHEAD, WE ANTICIPATE THE FIGURE WILL INCREASE TO 20 700 HOURS NEXT YEAR TO MANAGE THE WORKLOAD AND IMPROVE EFFICIENCY. WE CONTINUE TO LEVERAGE THE JUST FOIA PLATFORM AND EXPLORE SYSTEM UPGRADES THAT STREAMLINE THE REQUEST PROCESS, REDUCE STAFF TIME, AND HELP OPTIMIZE THE COLLECTION OF SPECIAL SERVICE FEES.

SO, MOVING ON TO A FEW GOALS. THE CITY'S NEXT GENERAL ELECTION IS SCHEDULED FOR FEBRUARY 3RD, 2026. AS THE CHIEF ELECTION OFFICIAL, MY GOAL IS TO ENSURE A SMOOTH, EFFICIENT AND TRANSPARENT ELECTION PROCESS IN CLOSE COORDINATION WITH THE COLLIER COUNTY SUPERVISOR OF ELECTIONS.

MY KEY RESPONSIBILITIES WILL INCLUDE QUALIFYING CANDIDATES, DEVELOPING AND MAINTAINING AN ELECTION WEBSITE, MONITORING THE SUBMISSION OF THE REQUIRED DISCLOSURE REPORTS, CREATING AND MANAGING THE OFFICIAL ELECTION CALENDAR, PREPARING AND PUBLISHING ALL LEGALLY REQUIRED NOTICES, AND SERVING ON THE CANVASING BOARD.

EACH OF THESE STEPS PLAYS A VITAL ROLE IN SUPPORTING AN ELECTION THAT IS BOTH EFFICIENT AND COMPLIANT WITH ALL LEGAL REQUIREMENTS.

OUR RECORDS MANAGEMENT INITIATIVES FOR THE UPCOMING YEAR FOCUS ON EXPANDING DIGITIZATION, IMPROVING SEARCH ABILITY, STREAMLINING STORAGE, AND STRENGTHENING POLICY AND TRAINING.

WE WILL WORK TOGETHER WITH QUEST AND THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT TO IMPLEMENT A STRUCTURED RECORDS MANAGEMENT PROCESS FOR BUILDING PERMITTING RECORDS IN CITY VIEW. THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE WILL TAKE THE LEAD IN ADMINISTERING THE CITY'S PLATFORM.

WE WILL CONTINUE THE DIGITIZATION OF PERMANENT RECORDS STORED IN THE RECORDS MANAGEMENT CENTER.

CURRENTLY, THERE ARE A FEW HUNDRED BOXES SLATED FOR REVIEW AND SCANNING.

WHILE REVIEWING THESE HISTORICAL RECORDS WERE ALSO DIGITIZING AND FILING NEWSPAPER ARTICLES AND OTHER MATERIALS OF HISTORICAL IMPORTANCE.

WE ARE GOING TO EVALUATE THE PERFORMANCE AND COST EFFECTIVENESS BY CREATING A DUPLICATE REPOSITORY OF THE QUEST'S PLATFORM, MIRRORING THE STRUCTURE OF WHAT WE JUST IMPORTED INTO LASER FISH.

ONCE BOTH SYSTEMS ARE FULLY POPULATED, WE WILL COMPARE THE SEARCH FUNCTIONALITY AND RESULTS.

IF QUESTS MEETS THE HIGH STANDARDS, WE WILL ASSESS THE COSTS AND POTENTIALLY CONSOLIDATE INTO A SINGLE REPOSITORY.

WE WILL BE UPDATING THE CITY'S RECORDS MANAGEMENT POLICY AND REESTABLISHING QUARTERLY TRAINING SESSIONS WITH RECORDS COORDINATORS ACROSS ALL DEPARTMENTS TO REINFORCE BEST PRACTICES AND COMPLIANCE.

AND IN AN EFFORT TO REDUCE UNNECESSARY STORAGE, WE HAVE ALREADY BEGUN A DEPARTMENT BY DEPARTMENT ON SITE RECORDS REVIEW.

AND SO FAR THIS YEAR SINCE JANUARY, I HAVE REVIEWED 160 BOXES OF RECORDS IN CITY HALL THAT HAVE MET RETENTION AND ARE READY TO BE DISPOSED OF. I WILL CONTINUE THIS REVIEW GOING THROUGHOUT THE CITY IN IN THE NEXT YEAR. WE MADE SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENT IN HOW LEGAL NOTICES ARE SHARED WITH THE PUBLIC, IN ADDITION TO PUBLISHING THEM IN THE NEWSPAPER.

WE'VE ADDED A DEDICATED LEGAL NOTICE TAB ON THE CITY'S HOMEPAGE, MAKING IT EASIER AND FASTER FOR RESIDENTS TO ACCESS NOTICES.

NO MORE SEARCHING THE FINE PRINT OF THE NEWSPAPER, OR EVEN HAVING TO SUBSCRIBE TO THE NEWSPAPER TO GET OUR NOTICES.

LOOKING AHEAD, WE ARE DRAFTING A PROPOSED ORDINANCE FOR CITY COUNCIL THAT WILL COME TO YOU IN THE FALL THAT WILL ALLOW THE CITY TO PUBLISH LEGAL NOTICES ON THE COUNTY'S WEBSITE, INSTEAD OF IN THE NEWSPAPER.

THE CHANGE WOULD NOT ONLY IMPROVE ACCESSIBILITY, BUT IS EXPECTED TO RESULT IN COST SAVINGS OF UP TO $80,000 IN

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AND. I HAVE A SHORT VIDEO SO CLICK HERE. SO WE'RE CLICKING RIGHT ON TO THE CITY'S HOME PAGE ON LEGAL NOTICES.

IT TAKES YOU RIGHT TO CALL YOUR COUNTY SITE. YOU SEE AT THE TIME WE HAD TWO NOTICES POSTED THERE.

YOU CLICK ON THE NOTICE, YOU OPEN THE NOTICE AND THEN YOU CAN SEE IT IN FULL PRINT.

WHEN IS THAT AND YOU'RE IMPLEMENTING THAT NOW OR WHEN'S THAT TRANSITION ACTUALLY TAKE PLACE? THAT IS GOING TO TAKE PLACE AS SOON AS CITY COUNCIL ADOPTS THE ORDINANCE TO ALLOW IT.

SO IF YOU RECALL THE CITY COUNCIL, WE DISCUSSED THIS EARLIER IN THE YEAR, AND WE'RE DOING A MASS BLAST IN OUR NEWSLETTERS TO ALL OUR RESIDENTS IN THE PUBLIC TO LET THEM KNOW THAT WE ARE WE HAVE THIS UP AND RUNNING, AND WE WANT IT TO BE SEAMLESS SO THAT WE HAVE MORE TRAFFIC GOING TO OUR WEBSITE NOW THAN JUST TRANSITIONING INTO IT, LIKE OVERNIGHT.

SO WE HAVE BEEN DOING THAT. WE'VE BEEN PUTTING TRAINING OUT.

WE'VE BEEN LETTING EVERYBODY KNOW ABOUT THIS.

AND SO THAT WILL COME BACK TO US AND IT WILL COME BACK TO YOU.

AND, AND IF THERE'S AN ORDINANCE CHANGE, THEN WE WILL AT THAT POINT.

AND THEN THERE'S SOME LEGAL REQUIREMENTS ALSO WITH NOTICES THAT WE HAVE TO COMPLY WITH.

BUT WONDERFUL. THANK YOU.

SO SINCE 2012, WE HAVE CONSISTENTLY EMBRACED INNOVATIVE TECHNOLOGIES TO STREAMLINE OPERATIONS, BOOST EFFICIENCY AND REDUCE COSTS. THESE FORWARD THINKING IMPROVEMENTS HAVE ENHANCED OUR ABILITY TO SERVE THE PUBLIC AND CONTINUE TO POSITION US FOR GROWTH.

WE CURRENTLY MAINTAIN A ROBUST SUITE OF TOOLS INCLUDING GRANICUS LASER, FICHE, QUEST'S JESS FOIA, MUNI CODE, AND OUR BACKUP RECORDING SYSTEM. AFTER OUR NEWEST ADDITION IS SWAGIT, WHICH FITTINGLY IS LAUNCHING WITH TODAY'S WORKSHOP MEETING WITH SWAGIT, WE'RE ADDING SEVERAL POWERFUL CAPABILITIES.

FIRST IS AUTOMATIC INDEXING AND TIME STAMPING OF MEETING VIDEOS.

ELIMINATING THE NEED FOR THE CLERK TO MANUALLY ADVANCE THE AGENDA ITEMS. THERE'S GOING TO BE CLOSED CAPTIONING AND A SEARCHABLE VIDEO RECORDING OF THE MEETINGS.

BOTH ARE GOING TO BE POSTED TO THE CITY'S WEBSITE AFTER EACH MEETING.

CROSS-LINKING OF MEETING DOCUMENTS FOR EASIER NAVIGATION.

PUBLIC EMAIL SUBSCRIPTIONS WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR AGENDAS AND MEETING UPDATES AND COMING SOON, WHICH IS KIND OF COOL AS AUTOMATED EMAIL SUMMARIES OF BOTH THE CITY COUNCIL'S MEETING AGENDAS AND THE ACTIONS.

ADDITIONALLY, SWAGIT ASSIGNS A THE CITY A DEDICATED, EXPERIENCED PARTNER TO ASSIST WITH ANY ISSUES THAT MAY ARISE.

AND I JUST REALLY NEED TO TAKE A MOMENT TO THANK OUR VIDEO MANAGER, DAVID FREILICH, FOR HIS EFFORTS FOR WORKING TOGETHER WITH OUR TEAM AND GRANICUS.

THIS HAS BEEN A SIX MONTH PROCESS. IF YOU RECALL, WE BROUGHT THIS TO CITY COUNCIL COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL IN JANUARY, AND IT WASN'T AN EASY PROCESS, BUT THE UPGRADE WILL ENHANCE THE QUALITY AND RELIABILITY OF OUR PUBLIC MEETING BROADCASTS.

AND ALL OF THIS WOULD NOT BE POSSIBLE WITH WITHOUT HIS ASSISTANCE.

SO THIS SLIDE IS JUST TO GIVE YOU A SNEAK PEEK UTILIZING SWAGIT SO THAT YOU CAN SEE WHAT THE ENHANCED MEETING PAGE WILL LOOK LIKE.

CURRENTLY, THE LAYOUT REMAINS WILL REMAIN MOSTLY THE SAME EXCEPT FOR THE EXCITING ADDITION OF THE TRANSCRIPT TAB.

THE TIME STAMPING FEATURE WILL DISPLAY IN THE VIDEO INDEX, JUST LIKE IT DOES IN THE AGENDA TAB, ALLOWING USERS TO EASILY JUMP TO SPECIFIC DISCUSSION POINTS.

AND I'LL WANT TO SHOW YOU JUST A SHORT CLIP TO DEMONSTRATE HOW SIMPLE IT IS TO SEARCH THE VIDEO WITHIN A RECORDED MEETING AND WE ARE USING FOR THIS DEMONSTRATION CITY OF TAMARIX WEB PAGE.

OF COURSE, BECAUSE THIS IS OUR GOAL AND WE DON'T HAVE OURS DONE, BUT WE WILL SOON.

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AND ALSO WE WILL BE HAVING THE THE PRINTED TRANSCRIPTS AS WELL.

SO THERE'S GOING TO BE A FEW DIFFERENT AVENUES OF SEARCHING AND FINDING THINGS.

SO JUST TO CONCLUDE, WE ARE INCREDIBLY FORTUNATE TO HAVE A DEDICATED, PROFESSIONAL AND HARDWORKING TEAM IN THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE, AND I WANT TO SINCERELY THANK EACH ONE OF THEM FOR THEIR COMMITMENT TO EXCELLENCE, THEIR PROFESSIONALISM, AND THEIR DEDICATION TO WORKING FOR THE CITY.

I ALSO WANT TO RECOGNIZE AND THANK ALL THE RECORDS COORDINATORS ACROSS ALL DEPARTMENTS.

THEY PLAY AN ESSENTIAL ROLE IN RESPONDING TO PUBLIC RECORDS REQUESTS AND SUPPORT OUR EFFORTS EVERY DAY.

BEHIND THE SCENES AND DELIVERING EXCELLENCE IS TRULY A TEAM EFFORT, SO I REALLY WANT TO ALSO THANK OUR CITY MANAGER, GARY YOUNG, AND OUR CITY ATTORNEY, MATTHEW MCCONNELL, ESPECIALLY FOR FOR THEIR CONTINUED PARTNERSHIP AND SUPPORTING US.

IT IS BOTH A PRIVILEGE AND AN HONOR TO SERVE THE CITY AND THE PUBLIC AND THE STAFF, AND I'M REALLY EXCITED TO BE PART OF WHAT'S COMING NEXT AND OUR CONTINUED PROGRESS WITH INNOVATIVE TECHNOLOGIES, INCLUDING AI, THAT ARE SHAPING THE WAY GOVERNMENT IS WORKING.

TODAY. SO THANK YOU AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU, MRS. HRABOWSKI, FOR THAT DETAIL AND ALL THE WORK YOUR STAFF DOES TO SUPPORT COUNCIL.

COUNCIL. DO YOU HAVE ANY AND THE PUBLIC, BY THE WAY? QUESTIONS FOR MR. RAMOS. JUST ONE QUICK ONE. YOU HAD SAID THAT THE THE DEMONSTRATION YOU JUST SHOWED US.

YOU SAID IT WOULD BE UP TO YOU. PLEASE. SORRY.

YOU HAD SAID THAT. THAT WHAT? THE DEMONSTRATION THAT YOU SHOWED WILL BE UP SOON.

YES. DO YOU HAVE A DATE FOR THAT? LIKE, I ASSUME, LIKE NEXT WEEK.

OR IT COULD BE. IT COULD BE TOMORROW. IT COULD BE THURSDAY.

I WILL DEFINITELY LET YOU KNOW WHEN WE HAVE TRANSITION.

AS SOON AS REALLY SOON? YES. IT'S REALLY SOON.

YEAH. THANK YOU. WE'RE RIGHT TODAY. YOU'RE RIGHT ON THE CUTTING EDGE.

IT'S HAPPENING RIGHT TODAY. GREAT. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. DAVID. OKAY. THANK YOU, MRS. RAMOS.

AND THAT TAKES US TO THE CITY ATTORNEY. I WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU TO MR. DYCKMAN FOR BEING HERE THIS MORNING. AND I DIDN'T ACKNOWLEDGE HIM FOR BEING HERE TODAY.

AND THEN TURN IT OVER TO MR. MCCONNELL. OUR TOP 36 ATTORNEYS THROUGHOUT THE STATE.

THANK YOU. WELL, DULY NOTED FOR EXEMPLIFYING GREAT STANDARDS.

I APPRECIATE THE REMINDER. THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU, ANDREW, AS WELL, FOR FOR HANDLING THE FIRST PART OF THIS.

SO AS YOU KNOW, THERE'S A SECOND ITEM ON YOUR AGENDA TODAY, WHICH IS AN ANNUAL PERFORMANCE REVIEW.

SO SOME OF THESE SLIDES, I'M GOING TO KIND OF JUST FAST FORWARD THROUGH NOT TO BE REDUNDANT BECAUSE I PLAN ON KIND OF GOING A LITTLE BIT MORE IN DEPTH WITH THE NUMBERS AT THAT POINT. BUT FEEL FREE TO STOP ME IF, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

THINGS LIKE THE MISSION STATEMENT, DEPARTMENT OVERVIEW.

I DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT JUST BECAUSE THERE WAS AN AMENDMENT AND THERE'S MORE THAN JUST ME.

ALTHOUGH I AM THE ONES THAT ATTEND MOST OF THE COUNCIL MEETINGS.

YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A BENCH OF ROUGHLY FIVE ATTORNEYS.

ANDREW DICKMAN IS THE ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY. RALPH BROOKS IS THE ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY.

AND THEN WE HAVE ODIE DICKMAN, WHO YOU ALL ARE AWARE OF.

AND THEN WE HAVE SHARON LINDNER AS WELL, WHO HANDLES A LOT OF THE PURCHASING AND PROCUREMENT.

SO THERE ARE A LOT OF ATTORNEYS THAT MAKE UP THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE THAT HELP IN DIFFERENT ASPECTS.

SO I'D BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T AT LEAST ACKNOWLEDGE THEM JUST BECAUSE OF HOW MUCH WORK THEY DO AND HOW INVOLVED THEY ARE IN CITY OPERATIONS.

SO WHEN IT COMES TO PRIMARY FUNCTIONS, THIS IS ONE THING THAT I WILL HIT ON DURING THE PERFORMANCE REVIEW.

BECAUSE WHILE YOU ALL CAN ASSUME THAT THERE'S A LOT OF LEGAL THINGS THAT HAPPEN, THERE ARE A LOT OF DAY TO DAY ACTIVITIES THAT OUR OFFICE IS INVOLVED IN.

A LOT OF AGREEMENTS. WE'VE TAKEN THE LIBERTY TO TEMPLATE QUITE A BIT TO KIND OF HELP WITH THE WORKFLOW AND EFFICIENCY.

THINGS THAT JUST HADN'T BEEN TOUCHED IN A WHILE. RIGHT OF WAY TEMPLATES.

EASEMENT TEMPLATES HOLD HARMLESS TEMPLATES FOR SOME OF THE FIREFIGHTER TESTING SITES AND POLICE TESTING SITES,

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NOW, WHETHER IT'S A PIGGYBACK OR A SOLE SOURCE OR A CONTRACTOR SERVICES AGREEMENT, ETC..

SO THAT DOES REALLY HELP STAFF AND GET US READY FOR AGENDAS BECAUSE MY REVIEW BECOMES LESS AND LESS.

SO THIS YEAR WAS REALLY ABOUT PUTTING THESE THINGS IN PLACE, BUT AS LONG AS THEY'RE UTILIZING THE RIGHT TEMPLATE, I'M NOT REALLY SPENDING HOURS ON AGREEMENTS ANYMORE.

IT'S MORE OF, YOU KNOW, TEN, 15, 20 MINUTES JUST CATCHING THINGS, MAKING SURE THAT THE THE RIGHT BLANKS ARE FILLED IN.

BUT IT DOES KIND OF SPEED THINGS UP THROUGH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

SO SOME OF THE ACCOMPLISHMENTS I WILL HIT ON DURING THE PERFORMANCE REVIEW AS WELL.

AND THIS NUMBER HAS CHANGED. THIS POWERPOINT WAS PREPARED, I BELIEVE, ROUGHLY 4 TO 6 WEEKS AGO.

YOU CAN SEE FROM THE NUMBERS THAT WE SPENT A LOT OF OUR TIME REVIEWING AGREEMENTS.

THE CITY ENTERS INTO A LOT OF AGREEMENTS. RESOLUTIONS AND ORDINANCES ARE A CLOSE NUMBER TWO.

YOU KNOW, EVERY RESOLUTION YOU SEE ON THE AGENDA HAS BEEN VETTED BY EITHER BY BOTH THE CITY CLERK AND MYSELF.

I USUALLY TAKE THE LEAD ON THOSE JUST BECAUSE THEY'RE AGENDA ITEMS. AND, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY, I'M HERE TO ADVISE YOU ON THOSE THINGS, BUT THERE IS QUITE A FEW RESOLUTIONS AND ORDINANCES THAT WE PUT TOGETHER AND THEN OTHER LEGAL REQUESTS. SO I WOULD SAY ABOUT SIX WEEKS IN TO ME BEING SELECTED IN OUR FIRM BEING ENGAGED, WHAT WAS BEING UTILIZED BEFORE TO PROCESS LEGAL REQUESTS WAS AN EMAIL.

SO IT WAS A CITY ATTORNEY LEGAL REQUEST AT NAPLES GOV.COM I IMPLEMENTED WHAT I REFER TO AS AN RL'S FORM.

SO IT'S A REQUEST FOR LEGAL SERVICES. IT'S A LITTLE TABLE THAT THEY INCLUDE IN THEIR EMAIL.

IT LISTS THE THE DEPARTMENT A LIST, A DUE DATE, MINIMUM TWO WEEKS, UNLESS THE CITY MANAGER, CITY MANAGER REQUIRES AN EXPEDITED REVIEW. IF THEY'RE SHOOTING FOR AN AGENDA, THEN I WOULD PREFER THREE WEEKS.

BUT ALL DEPARTMENTS HAVE REALLY JUMPED ON BOARD, WHICH HELPS A LOT.

BECAUSE LATER THIS WEEK, I PLANNED ON SENDING YOU THE ACTUAL EXCEL SPREADSHEET THAT MY OFFICE IS PREPARED FOR ALL PENDING TASK AND ALL TASKS COMPLETED.

AND YOU'LL SEE THAT IT'S QUITE A BIT WHEN YOU ADD ALL THESE NUMBERS UP.

SO OTHER LEGAL REQUESTS ARE JUST, YOU KNOW, INQUIRIES INTO HOW TO INTERPRET CERTAIN CODES.

YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES FROM PLANNING, YOU KNOW, THIS, THIS ATTORNEY SAYING THIS YOU KNOW, DEALING WITH ISSUES WITH EVERY DEPARTMENT.

I TRY TO MAKE MYSELF AS AVAILABLE AS POSSIBLE, AND I HOPE THE DIRECTORS FEEL THAT WAY.

BUT I GET ALL SORTS OF ODDBALL QUESTIONS, WHICH MAKES THIS JOB VERY FUN AND INTERESTING, BECAUSE EVERY DAY IT'S IT'S SOMETHING NEW.

SO WE DO HAVE ONE EMPLOYEE IN THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

IT'S THE LEGAL COORDINATOR. IT'S MAUREEN TAYLOR UPSTAIRS.

SHE'S USUALLY HERE FROM 9 TO 5 EVERY DAY. I'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET HER INVOLVED IN MORE.

SHE DOES HAVE HER JD. SHE WENT TO LAW SCHOOL, SO I'M TRYING TO GET HER INVOLVED IN MORE LEGAL WORK, WHICH FREES ME UP FOR OTHER THINGS. I SEE HER AS MORE THAN JUST A LEGAL COORDINATOR, ALTHOUGH THAT'S WHAT HER TITLE IS.

I'M TRYING TO WORK WITH HER AND MAKE HER MORE OF A LEGAL COORDINATOR SLASH PARALEGAL THAT CAN HELP WITH SOME OF THE HIGHER LEVEL LEGAL WORK THAT WE ARE ASKED TO DO EVERY DAY.

SO AS I GET THROUGH, I DO HAVE NUMBERS FOR YOU AS WELL ONCE WE GO THROUGH THE PERFORMANCE REVIEW, BECAUSE THERE WAS SOME LITIGATION THAT WE INHERITED THAT IS NO LONGER ACTIVE.

THERE ARE SOME NEW CASES THAT WE WERE SERVED WITH SINCE BEING ACTIVE.

SO IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ON THE NUMBER OF CASES THAT WE'VE RESOLVED, ETC., NOT INCLUDING RISK MANAGEMENT, I DO HAVE THOSE NUMBERS AND I'D BE HAPPY TO SHARE IT.

I PLANNED ON DOING IT DURING THE PERFORMANCE REVIEW.

AS YOU ALL KNOW A COUPLE MONTHS AGO THERE WAS AN AMENDMENT TO OUR CONTRACT TO INCLUDE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND SOME OF THE MORE INVOLVEMENT IN RISK MANAGEMENT CASES, SPECIFICALLY O.T.. SO WITH THAT, WE DO FEEL LIKE WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A HANDS ON APPROACH THAT WE HAVEN'T YET, JUST BECAUSE THAT AMENDMENT JUST HAPPENED. AND THEN WE WENT TO BREAK. AND THERE WAS ALSO AN AMENDMENT TO THE CITY ATTORNEY BUDGET, WHICH WE ARE PROPOSING TO MAINTAIN FOR THIS UPCOMING FISCAL YEAR.

DUE TO THOSE AMENDMENTS AND DUE TO OUR OFFICE BEING A LITTLE BIT MORE INVOLVED.

NOW, THIS IS THE PROPOSED BUDGET. AGAIN, AS YOU'LL RECALL, THERE WAS A $300,000 AMENDMENT.

I BELIEVE IT WAS MAY. COULD HAVE. MAY. BRINGING THE ADOPTED BUDGET UP TO 960,000.

RIGHT NOW, THE ESTIMATED ACTUALS 832. BUT THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE ANY PENDING INVOICES FOR THE NEXT TWO MONTHS AND THEN OTHER LEGAL SERVICES.

I AM GOING TO FACT CHECK THAT NUMBER. IT SHOWS AT 234 FOR ESTIMATED ACTUAL, BUT CURRENTLY I HAVE IT AT $102,109.

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FOR EXAMPLE, THE PROCESSING OF THE SMALL WIRELESS FACILITIES, APPLICATIONS.

WE HAD SPECIALIZED COUNSEL FOR THAT. I WAS HEAVILY INVOLVED IN DRAFTING THOSE ORDINANCES AND OTHER JURISDICTIONS, SO I'VE TAKEN IT UPON MYSELF TO KIND OF KEEP THAT IN-HOUSE.

I THINK STAFF GETS QUICKER RESPONSE TIME. AND THERE'S A VERY STRICT DEADLINE THAT WE HAVE TO ABIDE BY WITH FLORIDA STATUTES.

SO THAT'S JUST ONE EXAMPLE OF THINGS THAT WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO KEEP IN-HOUSE INSTEAD OF UTILIZING SPECIALIZED COUNSEL.

SO WHILE WE ARE ASKING FOR TO MAINTAIN THE 960 THAT THE THOUGHT PROCESS IS TO DROP THAT 150 THAT'S ITEMIZED FOR OTHER LEGAL SERVICES. AND WITH THAT, I WILL HAPPILY ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU. NO PROBLEM. COUNCIL. ANY QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER, I CAN'T WAIT. I HAVE A QUESTION.

COUNCIL MEMBER. PETRINO. AS WE GO IN TO THIS NEXT YEAR PRESSING TO GET SOME RELIEF ON HOME RULE. ARE WE GOING TO NEED ADDITIONAL LEGAL SERVICES? AND IF THEY ARE. ARE THEY EMBEDDED SOMEWHERE IN HERE? CURRENTLY THEY ARE NOT. I THINK YOU ARE FORESHADOWING A POTENTIAL CONVERSATION THAT WE MAY HAVE ON WEDNESDAY.

BUT IT'S UP TO COUNSEL. I MEAN, THERE ARE GOING TO BE CERTAIN ASKS OF YOU OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS THAT MAY RESULT IN POTENTIAL LITIGATION.

AND AT THAT TIME I CAN WORK WITH THE CITY MANAGER IF NEED BE.

BUT I DO FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH US KEEPING THE BUDGET AS IT IS AND THE ACTUAL NUMBERS COMING IN THAT WE COULD ACCOMMODATE ANY OF THOSE REQUESTS FROM COUNSEL TO JOIN IN ON OR BE PART OF CERTAIN LAWSUITS. I JUST DON'T WANT TO, YOU KNOW GO IN THERE HALF BAKED.

IF WE REALLY THINK THIS IS IMPORTANT TO US AND TO OUR CITY, YOU KNOW, MAKING SURE WE HAVE THE RESOURCES WE HAVE TO DEFEND OUR HOME RULE AND WHAT WE WANT TO DO. BUT MAYBE THAT'S FOR WEDNESDAY. MAYBE WE CAN MAKE AN AMENDMENT IF WE NEED TO.

IF IF NEED BE. AND I CAN ALWAYS WORK WITH THE CITY MANAGER.

BUT I THINK ULTIMATELY IT'S UP TO THE DECISIONS THAT COUNCIL MAKES. AND I'VE WORKED WELL WITH THE CITY MANAGER AND I SHOUT OUT TO THE CITY CLERK AS WELL.

I THINK IF THERE'S CHANGES THAT NEED TO BE MADE MID-YEAR WE CAN WORK THROUGH THAT.

YEAH. AND I WOULD SAY YOU'RE NOT. THIS IS A BUDGET.

IF YOU KNOW YOU HAVE SOMETHING FOR CERTAIN YOU'RE GOING TO BE FILING, I WOULD SAY YES.

PUT IT IN. NOW, I DON'T EVER BELIEVE, IN SHORT, CHANGING YOUR BUDGET.

BUT IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT IT AND YOU AND GET READY TO ENGAGE A NEW LAW FIRM FOR THAT SPECIFIC PURPOSE, YOU HAVE TO AUTHORIZE IT ANYWAY. AND WE CAN DO THE SUPPLEMENT AT THAT TIME.

AND AGAIN, WE'RE STILL TARGETING A $20 MILLION FUND BALANCE IN THE GENERAL FUND.

I DON'T THINK YOU'RE VULNERABLE TO ANYTHING. AND SO SO I THINK THAT'S I GUESS THAT'S THE WAY I LEAVE THAT.

I THINK YOU'RE FINE TO HANDLE WHATEVER YOUR DECISIONS ARE THAT YOU NEED.

YOU WANT TO TACKLE. OKAY. THEN I THINK I WILL WAIT FOR WEDNESDAY FOR THAT DISCUSSION TO GO ON WITH MY FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBERS.

THANK YOU. OKAY. AND I WOULD JUST ADD ONE OTHER THING I WORK WITH JUST FROM THE STANDPOINT OF THERE ARE SOME CARRYOVER ENCUMBRANCES, I THINK IS WHAT YOU'RE SEEING, SOME OF THESE ONES THAT HAVE SETTLED NOW, WE MAY STILL HAVE OUTSTANDING POS.

AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT BECAUSE IN BOTH CASES THEY WERE CARRYOVER ENCUMBRANCES.

AND SOME OF THEM ARE STILL SITTING THERE WAITING TO BE CLOSED. SO. OKAY.

HE'S THE NUMBERS GUY. AND I WENT TO LAW SCHOOL TO NOT DO MATH. SO I'LL DO IT TO THE CITY MANAGER.

SO THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. THAT'S OUR LEGAL MOVING TO OUR ETHICS COMMISSION.

MR. MORAWSKI. GOOD AFTERNOON. MIKE MORAWSKI, THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE CITY OF NAPLES ETHICS COMMISSION.

I HOPE EVERYBODY HAS HAD A GOOD SUMMER SO FAR.

FOUR. SO THIS IS PRETTY SHORT AND QUICK. AS YOU ALL KNOW, THE ETHICS COMMISSION WAS CREATED IN AUGUST OF 2020 BY 62% OF THE VOTERS OF THE CITY. SO WE'VE ALREADY BEEN IN EXISTENCE FOR FIVE YEARS.

I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU, BUT THAT FIVE YEARS HAS GONE PRETTY QUICKLY FOR ME.

OUR MISSION REALLY REMAINS THE SAME IN THE CITY WHERE OUR LOGO IS.

ETHICS ABOVE ALL ELSE. WE CONTINUE TO GIVE TRAINING AND ADVICE TO CITY OFFICIALS AND EMPLOYEES, AND TRY TO PREVENT UNETHICAL CONDUCT BEFORE IT, BEFORE IT OCCURS TO BUILD CONFIDENCE IN THE CITY GOVERNMENT AND TO ENSURE THE ACTUAL AND

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AND MOST OF THE THE INCREASE JUST INVOLVES SALARY AND BENEFITS TO THE ONE EMPLOYEE OF THE ETHICS COMMISSION.

THE BREAKDOWN, AS LAID OUT HERE IN THE BUDGET DETAIL WITH THE SALARY AND BENEFITS.

OUR LEGAL SERVICES IS FOR OUR GENERAL COUNSEL.

WE PAY HIM $3,000 A MONTH TO BE ON RETAINER. WE PAY THE CLERK'S OFFICE $8,000 A YEAR FOR THE SERVICES THAT THEY PROVIDE TO US DURING OUR MEETINGS.

I DID TAKE COUNCILMAN HUTCHINSON'S ADVICE AND CREATED A LINE ITEM FOR LOBBYING EXPENSES.

SO NEXT, NEXT YEAR, IF THERE'S SOMETHING GOING ON IN THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION, I HOPE TO HIRE MY OWN PERSON TO GO UP THERE AND MAKE SOME NOISE ABOUT HOME RULE AND TRY TO GET SOME OF THE POWER THAT WE LOST BACK.

SO THERE IS THAT INCLUDED IN THERE? OUR INVESTIGATIVE ACCOUNT, I LOWERED A LITTLE BIT DOWN TO 15,000.

SINCE WE REALLY DON'T HAVE A LOT OF COMPLAINTS GETTING FILED.

THE WEB MAINTENANCE IS THE COMPANY THAT RUNS OUR OUR WEBSITE TECHNOLOGY SERVICE CHARGE IS THE MONEY THAT I PAY TO ANDREW HUNTER TO KEEP MY COMPUTER AND PRINTER RUNNING. AND AGAIN, OPERATING SUPPLIES, JUST OFFICE SUPPLIES AND SOFTWARE IS FOR WE HAVE WHEN PEOPLE TAKE TRAINING AND THEY GET THAT AUTOMATIC CERTIFICATE, WE HAVE TO PAY SOMEBODY TO DO THAT.

AND IT'S ABOUT $900 A YEAR. AND COMMUNICATIONS TO KEEP MY MY TELEPHONE RUNNING FOR OUR OUTPUTS AND ACCOMPLISHMENTS.

IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THIS SLIDE, YOU'LL SEE AT THE VERY END THERE THERE'S SOMETHING CALLED OHS.

IF YOU RECALL, I'M SURE YOU DON'T. BUT I CREATED THAT METRIC LAST YEAR TO KIND OF MEASURE THINGS THAT ARE LESS THAN INFORMAL OPINIONS, JUST LIKE PHONE CALLS THAT I GET WHERE I'M ANSWERING QUESTIONS QUICKLY WITHOUT EVEN GOING INTO ANYTHING AS FORMAL.

SO THAT'S ACTUALLY INCREASED BY BY TEN. SO FAR IN THIS FISCAL YEAR.

IT'LL PROBABLY BE A LITTLE BIT HIGHER BY THE END OF THE CALENDAR YEAR.

BUT I THINK OVER THE YEARS WHAT'S HAPPENED IS PEOPLE DO FEEL A LITTLE BIT MORE COMFORTABLE JUST JUST CALLING ME ON THE PHONE AND GETTING GETTING QUESTIONS ANSWERED.

SO THAT TAKES UP A GOOD AMOUNT OF MY TIME. WE'VE HAD THREE MEETINGS OF THE ETHICS COMMISSION SO FAR.

I'VE DELIVERED FOUR IN-PERSON LIVE TRAINING SESSIONS THIS YEAR.

FIVE IF YOU INCLUDE COUNCILMAN KRISTEN FROM LAST FRIDAY WE HAVE WHAT WE CALL KNEES, WHICH ARE NO ACTIONS, WHICH ARE JUST THINGS THAT COME INTO THE OFFICE THAT JUST DON'T FIT INTO OUR GUIDELINES.

THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DO WITH IT. SO WE EITHER REFER IT OUT OR CLOSE IT OUT.

BUT THE GOOD NEWS IS WE'VE HAD NO COMPLAINTS FILED THIS YEAR AGAINST ANYBODY IN THE CITY.

SO THAT'S THAT'S THAT'S A GOOD THING. THE OTHER THINGS IF YOU REMEMBER BACK IN FEBRUARY, WE AMENDED THE ETHICS CODE TO INCLUDE A NEW SECTION CALLED PROHIBITED COMMUNICATIONS. AND WE ALSO INCREASED TRAINING FOR BOARD AND COMMITTEE MEMBERS, WHERE THEY NOW HAVE TO TAKE SUNSHINE LAW AND PUBLIC RECORDS LAW TRAINING.

I CREATED AN ONLINE TRAINING SESSION FOR THOSE PEOPLE TO TO DO THAT.

I FINALLY GOT AROUND TO DELIVERING A PRESENTATION TO COLLIER COUNTY HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS.

AS PART OF THE COUNTY, COLLIER COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS GET TO KNOW YOUR LOCAL GOVERNMENT PROGRAM, AND THAT WILL BE A RECURRING EVENT FOR ME. I CONTINUE TO NETWORK AND OUTREACH OUTREACH ACTIVITY THROUGH ATTENDANCE AT COLLIER COUNTY BAR ASSOCIATION EVENTS. THE COLLIER COUNTY WOMEN'S BAR ASSOCIATION, THE FLORIDA MUNICIPAL ATTORNEYS ASSOCIATION, THE FEDERALIST SOCIETY, AND OTHER LOCAL GROUPS.

AS I SAID, I'VE ADMINISTERED FOUR LIVE IN-PERSON TRAINING SESSIONS THIS YEAR, BUT MOST PEOPLE TAKE THEIR TRAINING ONLINE AND WE'VE GOT ABOUT 248 EMPLOYEES WHO HAD TO TAKE TRAINING THIS PAST YEAR.

AND WE'RE OUT OF ALL THE EMPLOYEES IN THE CITY, THERE'S PROBABLY ONLY ABOUT TEN THAT RIGHT NOW THAT AREN'T COMPLIANT.

AND MOST OF THOSE PEOPLE ARE IN THE SORT OF THE MAINTENANCE AREAS.

SO THEY'RE EITHER HARD TO GET AHOLD OF. BUT BUT I'LL FIND THEM.

I WILL TRACK THEM DOWN. AND ABOUT 80% OF ALL OUR BOARD AND COMMITTEE MEMBERS ARE COMPLIANT RIGHT NOW, AND ABOUT 64% OF OUR LOBBYISTS. AND I'M CONTINUING, AS I SAID, MY EFFORTS TO TRY TO AMELIORATE THE EFFECTS OF SENATE BILL 7014 AND GET BACK SOME OF THAT POWER THAT THAT WE DID LOSE.

SO SO MY GOALS FOR NEXT YEAR ARE TO TO WORK ON THAT 70, 70, 14 TO UPDATE THE TRAINING FOR FOR EVERYONE AS NEEDED.

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CONTINUE OUTREACH AND EDUCATION. I'M ACTUALLY I DO HAVE A PRETTY GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH THE STATE ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND THE PUBLIC DEFENDER'S OFFICE AND THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, AND I'M DEVELOPING A RELATIONSHIP WITH AVE MARIA LAW SCHOOL, SAINT THOMAS UNIVERSITY LAW SCHOOL, AND FLORIDA GULF COAST UNIVERSITY. IN FACT, WE'RE PUTTING ON AN EVENT TOGETHER IN JANUARY, ON JANUARY 9TH OF NEXT YEAR ABOUT ETHICS. AND I ALSO MAINTAIN INVOLVEMENT WITH THE COUNCIL ON GOVERNMENT ETHICS LAWS, OTHERWISE KNOWN AS CUDGEL, WHICH IS THE SORT OF THE UMBRELLA ETHICS AGENCY THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE COUNTRY.

AND BASICALLY EVERY LOCAL ETHICS COMMISSION IS A MEMBER OF VOGEL.

I SERVE ON ONE OF THE COMMITTEES FOR VOGEL, AND THUS FAR, I BELIEVE WE'VE BEEN OPERATING IN A VERY FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE MANNER, AND I RESPECTFULLY SUBMIT WE WILL CONTINUE TO DO SO.

AND IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, THAT'S IT FOR ME.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. ANYONE HAVE QUESTIONS FOR MR. MORAWSKI? YES, COUNCILMEMBER CRISPIN. JUST A COMMENT FOR REALLY FOR COUNCIL'S POSSIBLE BENEFIT.

I, MR. MORAWSKI, MADE A REFERENCE TO ME BEING OVER AT THE ETHICS COMMISSION ON FRIDAY, BUT I WHEN I WAS MADE AWARE WHILE BACK THAT THIS YEAR, IN ADDITION TO THE ANNUAL STATE ETHICS TRAINING I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S ALL OF US OR JUST JUST ME. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S ON A STAGGERED BASIS OR FOR ALL OF US, WE HAD TO GO THROUGH THIS YEAR. I HAD TO GO THROUGH THIS YEAR LOCAL ETHICS TRAINING, WHICH IS A ONCE EVERY THREE YEARS YEAR REQUIREMENT ACCORDING TO OUR ETHICS CODE.

AND TALKING TO MRS. HRABOWSKI AND MR. MORAWSKI SUBSEQUENTLY DETERMINED THAT I COULD DO THAT THROUGH MR. MORAWSKI ON A COMBINED BASIS, LOCAL AND STATE, AND MEET THE STATE AS WELL AS THE LOCAL REQUIREMENT.

AND SO THIS IS THE WAY THE CALENDAR FELL. I DID I FELT DID THAT LAST FRIDAY TO FULFILL THOSE REQUIREMENTS.

AND I, YOU KNOW, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY WAS AWARE OF THAT OPPORTUNITY TO DO IT ON THAT BASIS AND RECOMMEND IT.

IT'S MUCH MORE PLEASURABLE TO SIT DOWN WITH MR. MORAWSKI ACROSS THE TABLE THAN TO PARTICIPATE IN A ZOOM CALL, WHICH IS WHAT MOST OF US TEND TO DO.

AND AND HE'S REALLY A VERY PLEASANT GUY, MR. MORAWSKI.

AND EVEN WHEN I ASKED ANNOYING QUESTIONS ABOUT WHY STATE LAW SAID THIS, THAT OR THE OTHER THING, HE MOSTLY JUST IGNORED THE QUESTIONS. AND WE AND WE PURSUE THAT VERY DIPLOMATICALLY.

SO ANYWAY, IT'S A GOOD WAY TO GET IT DONE. AND AND HE'S OFFERING THAT SERVICE, I THINK, TO ANY OF US.

SO I WANTED TO MAKE SURE YOU ALL KNEW THAT. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR THAT. VICE MAYOR. THANK YOU, MR. MORAWSKI. I APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU FOR ACTUALLY CONSIDERING AND TAKING ACTION ON THE QUESTION AROUND LOBBYING FOR THE ETHICS COMMISSION. SO I THINK IT WILL BE HELPFUL LONG TERM.

A GOOD IDEA. WELL. THANK YOU. THE ONE THING I WOULD ASK IS IN YOUR PRESENTATION, YOU TALKED ABOUT COLLIER COUNTY AND THE INSTRUCTION, I THINK, THAT YOU WERE GIVEN.

AND IT'S GOING TO BE RECURRING ON ETHICS. PLEASE CONSIDER DOING A SIMILAR OR MIRRORED TYPE EVENT FOR THE NAPLES YOUTH COUNCIL. OKAY. THAT'S A GROUP THAT ADVISES OUR CITY COUNCIL.

AND I THINK THEY WOULD BENEFIT FROM THE INSTRUCTION THAT YOU CAN GIVE THEM.

I'D BE HAPPY TO. THANK YOU. OH, ONE ONE MORE THING TODAY WE'VE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT AI, AND WE'VE HEARD IT COME FROM DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS IN READING UP ON AI AND ETHICS.

THERE ARE SOME APPLICATIONS, AND THERE MIGHT BE A TIE IN TO THE ETHICS THAT YOU OVERSEE.

MY ASK IS JUST TO LOOK AT THAT, AND LET'S MAKE SURE WE'RE ON THE FRONT END OF ANY OPPORTUNITIES THAT MAY BE THERE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ALL YOU DO. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. SO MR. YOUNG HAD ALREADY MOVED ON.

PUT YOUR CASE ON AGAIN, THIS BUDGET THAT CONCLUDES THE BUDGET PRESENTATION.

AND AS A REMINDER, WE'LL BE HAVING THE FIRST BUDGET HEARING AT 505 ON ON SEPTEMBER 3RD AND THE SECOND BUDGET HEARING AT

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I REALLY APPRECIATE IT. YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. IT IS A VERY CHALLENGING JOB, PARTICULARLY IN THE FRONT LINES DOWNSTAIRS.

AND I KNOW THAT THEY HANDLE IT WITH GRACE AND I APPRECIATE THAT COMMENT.

I ALSO WOULD BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T THANK THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT, THE WHOLE CITY FOR THEIR WORK ON THIS BUDGET, IN PARTICULAR NICOLE FULLAM. SHE PUTS IN A TREMENDOUS EFFORT PUTTING THIS BUDGET BOOK TOGETHER.

IT'S VERY LONG. THERE'S A LOT OF DETAILS, AND SHE DOES AN EXCEPTIONAL JOB EVERY YEAR.

AND SO I WANTED TO THANK HER FOR THAT. AND SHE'S IN THE BACK. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL YOUR YEARS OF SERVICE TO THAT.

YOU KNOW, WE DO HAVE HIGH QUALITY EMPLOYEES, AND WE REALLY WANT TO THANK THE STAFF.

AND WE MAY BE HIGH IN SALARIES, BUT THAT'S WHAT MAKES SERVICES FOR THE CITY.

AND THIS BUDGET DOES REFLECT I THINK A VERY. THANK YOU, MR. YOUNG, FOR YOUR PRESENTATION TO THE COMMUNITY FOR PUBLIC SAFETY AND FOR QUALITY OF LIFE.

AND I'M, I'M VERY PROUD OF THIS BUDGET AS WELL.

SO THANK YOU TO ALL OF OUR EMPLOYEES FOR BEING FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE WITH THE TAXPAYERS DOLLARS.

AND THERE ARE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? WE HAVE NO PUBLIC COMMENT.

NO PUBLIC COMMENT? COUNCIL. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY. WELL, WITH THAT, I THANK STAFF. AND THAT CONCLUDES OUR BUDGET WORKSHOP.

NOW. WE HAVE MY MY PERFORMANCE REVIEW. I THOUGHT YOU INCORPORATED IT.

YOU CAN'T PUT THE BUDGET WORKSHOP DOWN. I'M SORRY.

YEAH, WE NEEDED THAT GARBAGE IN THAT WE DID WITH THEM.

OKAY, HOW DO I REMEMBER FROM THAT ONE? THAT DAVID'S STILL RECORDING.

WE'RE STILL ALIVE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I HOPE YOU'RE GOING TO EDIT THAT APPROPRIATELY.

MR. FREILICH. SO WITH THAT, IN CONCLUSION OF THE CITY BUDGET, WE'LL GO TO FIVE B

[5.B. City Attorney Annual Review.]

I APPRECIATE IT. SO YES, MATTHEW MCCONNELL, YOUR CITY ATTORNEY PURSUANT TO THE AGREEMENT FOR CITY ATTORNEY LEGAL SERVICES.

CITY COUNCIL SHALL CONDUCT A PERFORMANCE REVIEW OF THE CITY ATTORNEY AT THE END OF EACH FISCAL YEAR, WHICH WE ARE APPROACHING. OBVIOUSLY, I AM THE DESIGNATED CITY ATTORNEY, BUT AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, THE CITY IS ENGAGED WITH DICKMAN LAW FIRM. SO IT'S MORE THAN JUST ME THAT OFFER SERVICES FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY OFFICE.

SO AS YOU ALL KNOW, EVERY MONTH I SEND YOU SOMETIMES EARLIER THAN OTHERS, BUT I TRY TO PUT ALL THE NUMBERS TOGETHER IN THE INVOICES TOGETHER FOR THAT MONTH. I RUN AN EXCEL SPREADSHEET THAT KIND OF TELLS YOU HOW MUCH IS SPENT IN SOME OF THE MAJOR CATEGORIES.

SO WHAT I DID IN PREPARING THIS ANNUAL REPORT SHOUT OUT TO PAT BECAUSE I TOOK SOME OF HER IDEAS FROM HER ANNUAL REPORT IS I KIND OF COMPILED ALL THOSE NUMBERS.

I THINK IT'S GOOD TO JUST LOOK A YEAR IN THE PAST AND SEE WHAT WE'VE DONE HOW WE'VE DONE IT, WHERE MOST OF OUR TIME IS SPENT, ETC.. BECAUSE I KNOW WE ALL SPEND A LOT OF TIME TOGETHER HERE IN CHAMBERS, BUT THERE IS A LOT OF WORK THAT GOES ON OUTSIDE OF CHAMBERS.

THAT I THOUGHT WAS IMPORTANT FOR YOU ALL TO KNOW.

SO WITH THAT, I WILL GET STARTED. OKAY. SO AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, THESE ARE THE FIVE ATTORNEYS THAT REPRESENT THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE WITH RALPH BROOKS NOT BEING A MEMBER OF DYCKMAN LAW FIRM, BUT BEING A DESIGNATED ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY.

I WILL SAY MR. BROOKS HAS BEEN WITH THE CITY FOR QUITE SOME TIME.

HE DOES HAVE A LOT OF KNOWLEDGE IN SOME OF THE DAY.

TWO DAYS. AS YOU AS YOU CAN TELL FROM START TO FINISH, HIS HIS SERVICES HAVE GONE DOWN.

BUT FOR THE MOST PART, I DO THINK HE'S A RESOURCE TO HAVE JUST FROM HOW LONG HE'S BEEN HERE WITH MULTIPLE CITY ATTORNEYS.

THERE ARE TIMES WE'RE ASKING QUESTIONS ON THINGS. AND HE WAS INITIALLY INVOLVED IN SOME OF THE ONGOING LITIGATION THAT I TOOK OVER, WHICH I WILL MENTION HERE SHORTLY. SO IN ADDITION TO THE ATTORNEY MEETING COVERAGE HERE EVERY WEEK ON FRIDAY MAUREEN TAYLOR SENDS OUT A OFFICE HOURS THAT WE STARTED DOING. I THOUGHT IT WAS IMPORTANT FOR YOU ALL TO SEE THAT FOR AT LEAST A COUPLE HOURS A DAY.

THERE WAS AN ATTORNEY UP THERE ALONG WITH MAUREEN.

SOMETIMES IT'S ME, SOMETIMES IT'S UDI, SHARON, RALPH, ANDREW, ETC.

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I AM DRIVING SOMETIMES OR OUT OF THE OFFICE, BUT FOR THE MOST PART I TRY TO MAKE MYSELF AS AVAILABLE AS POSSIBLE.

SO EVEN IF I'M NOT IN THE OFFICE, SO TO SPEAK, I HOPE YOU ALL FEEL COMFORTABLE CALLING ME WHENEVER NEEDED.

BUT THIS KIND OF GIVES YOU A A GOOD INSIGHT INTO WHO IS THE PRIMARY AND BACK UP FOR EACH OF THE MEETINGS.

SO I WON'T SPEND TOO MUCH TIME ON THIS, BUT IT'S THERE.

SO SOME OF THE ACCOMPLISHMENTS WHEN IT COMES TO LITIGATION CASES.

WHEN I STARTED IN JUNE OF 24, THERE WAS OBVIOUSLY A TRANSITION PERIOD.

WE HAD ONE COUNCIL MEETING AND THEN WE WERE ON BREAK.

OUR OFFICE INHERITED 11 NON RISK MANAGEMENT CASES.

THROUGHOUT THIS LAST YEAR WE HAVE RESOLVED SEVEN OF THEM.

SO THERE'S CURRENTLY FOUR REMAINING. TWO OF THEM ARE ON THE VERGE OF BEING RESOLVED AS WELL.

SO AS YOU KNOW, I USUALLY SEND YOU GUYS EMAILS WITH ORDERS AND STUFF THAT WE GET.

I WILL DO THAT AT THAT TIME. BUT THERE'S CURRENTLY FOUR NON RISK MANAGEMENT LITIGATION THAT WE INHERITED THAT ARE STILL ONGOING.

DURING MY TENURE THERE WERE THREE NON RISK MANAGEMENT CASES THAT WE WERE SERVED WITH.

TWO OF THEM HAVE BEEN RESOLVED AND ONE OF THEM IS STILL PENDING.

SO WE CURRENTLY HAVE FIVE. BUT HOPEFULLY THAT GIVES YOU A LITTLE BIT OF WELL I CAN MENTION THE ONES THAT WE CLOSE.

I'D PREFER TO NOT MENTION THE ONES THAT ARE STILL OPEN BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THEY'RE ACTIVE LITIGATION AND YES.

ALONG WITH THAT, AND I KIND OF HIT ON IT EARLIER DURING THE BUDGET.

WE PROVIDE LEGAL COUNSEL TO ANYONE WHO REALLY NEEDS IT AT THE CITY.

WHETHER IT'S A DIRECTOR OR A STAFF MEMBER. THERE ARE LEGAL QUESTIONS THAT COME UP ALL THE TIME AGAIN.

THAT'S WHY I LOVE BEING A LOCAL GOVERNMENT ATTORNEY IS JUST REALLY FUN.

EVERY DAY THERE'S SOMETHING NEW, SOMETHING TO LOOK INTO, SOMETHING I DIDN'T KNOW.

SOMETIMES THE HARDER QUESTIONS ARE THE BEST QUESTIONS BECAUSE YOU'RE LEARNING THE MOST AND YOU'RE LEARNING SOMETHING NEW. SO I'M NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH EVERYTHING HERE, BUT FOR THE MOST PART, I DIDN'T WANT YOU TO SEE AGAIN, THE AGREEMENT TEMPLATES, I THINK, ARE IMPORTANT.

AND NEGOTIATE AGREEMENTS ON BEHALF OF THE CITY.

SO WHEN NEGOTIATING AGREEMENTS, YOU KNOW, I DID PUT A NUMBER AS WE GET THERE ON THE TOTAL AGREEMENTS, I WOULD SAY ROUGHLY 25 TO 30% OF THAT ARE BACK AND FORTH.

SO ALTHOUGH MY TEMPLATE IS USED, SOME OF THESE VENDORS HAVE ATTORNEYS THAT REVIEW IT.

SOME OF THEM DON'T LIKE INDEMNIFICATION. SOME OF THEM WANT EDITS.

ALL OF THOSE AGREEMENTS GET FILTERED THROUGH US.

WE EDIT THEM, WE NEGOTIATE THEM, WE GO BACK AND FORTH UNTIL WE FEEL LIKE THEY'RE LEGALLY SUFFICIENT.

AND THEN THEY PROCEED TO EITHER COUNCIL OR IF THEY'RE UNDER THE CITY MANAGER'S AUTHORITY.

PROCEED THAT WAY. SO THESE ARE THE SERVICES PROVIDED BY DEPARTMENT.

NOW, I WILL SAY. WHILE WE DO A LOT FOR PURCHASING AND FINANCE, THE NUMBERS ARE A LITTLE SKEWED.

AND I'M GOING TO TRY TO WORK ON THAT THIS YEAR.

SO WHEN MY OFFICE WAS DOING WAS COUNTING IT AS A PURCHASING AND FINANCE AGREEMENT JUST BECAUSE IT WAS COMING FROM PURCHASING A FINANCE, EVEN IF, FOR EXAMPLE, IT WAS A PARKS AND RECS AGREEMENT OR A PUBLIC WORKS AGREEMENT.

SO AS YOU CAN SEE, WE DO REVIEW A LOT OF AGREEMENTS.

MOST OF THEM WE HAVE A GOOD PROCESS IN PLACE WITH PURCHASING.

THEY'LL STEM FROM THEM. BUT I HAVE A FEELING THAT NEXT YEAR I HAVE A PRETTY GOOD FEELING THAT NEXT YEAR, ONCE I FIX THAT LITTLE HICCUP, THAT THESE NUMBERS WILL BE MORE ACCURATE.

SO I WOULD SAY REALISTICALLY, WITH THE TEMPLATES AND EVERYTHING I DO, THE TIME THAT I'VE ACTUALLY SPENT ON PURCHASING RELATED ITEMS IS PROBABLY CLOSER TO 15% AS OPPOSED TO 40, BUT AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, ALL THE AGREEMENTS COME OUT OF THERE, RIGHT? SO BUT I THOUGHT IT WAS IMPORTANT FOR YOU TO SEE ALL THOSE PERCENTAGES IN ONE GLANCE, SO.

AS YOU KNOW, AS PART OF OUR AGREEMENT, THERE IS A TRANSIENT COMMUNICATION FLAT FEE.

WE DO TRACK IT ANYWAYS, SO I THOUGHT IT WAS IMPORTANT FOR YOU TO SEE VIA THE BAR GRAPH THAT THERE ARE SOME OBVIOUSLY HOT, HOT MONTHS WHERE THERE'S A LOT OF COMMUNICATION.

AND THEN DURING THE HOLIDAYS, NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER IS USUALLY WHEN THERE'S LITTLE TO KNOW BECAUSE WE'RE ALL ENJOYING OUR FAMILY TIME AND WE TAKE A LITTLE BREAK.

BUT I THOUGHT IT WAS IMPORTANT FOR YOU ALL TO SEE KIND OF THE DIPS WHEN IT COMES TO THE MONTHLY COMMUNICATIONS THAT WE'RE HAVING PER MONTH.

SO THIS WAS THROUGH JULY. OBVIOUSLY, THERE'S A PENDING INVOICE FOR AUGUST, BUT FOR THE MOST PART, THIS IS JUST PUTS EVERYTHING THAT I SEND YOU IN AN EMAIL EVERY MONTH IN ONE SHEET.

THE ONE THING I DO WANT TO HIT ON IS MY HOURLY RATE IN THE RETAINER IS $230 AN HOUR, BECAUSE I HAVE SO MANY OTHER PEOPLE INVOLVED.

ANDREW AND ODIE AND RALPH, I BELIEVE, ARE 220.

SHARON'S 185, AND THEN PARALEGALS AND ASSISTANTS ARE $75.

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SO WITH MINE BEING 230, YOU CAN TELL THAT THERE'S OTHER PEOPLE AND OTHER STAFF INVOLVED.

YOU KNOW, THERE ARE SOME MONTHS WHERE WE'RE BILLING OVER 400 HOURS TO THE CITY.

SO IT'S A LOT OF WORK. BUT FOR THE MOST PART, YOU KNOW, GETTING OTHER OFFICE STAFF INVOLVED KEEPS THAT HOURLY RATE AS LOW AS POSSIBLE.

AND AGAIN, IT JUST HITS ON THE AMOUNT OF AGREEMENTS AND RESOLUTIONS. I SEPARATED RESOLUTIONS AND ORDINANCES BECAUSE THERE HAVEN'T BEEN THAT MANY PIECES OF LEGISLATION.

BUT THIS GIVES YOU A GOOD UNDERSTANDING OF, OF AGAIN, MOST OF THE EXPENSES ARE ADMINISTRATIVE AND ADMINISTRATION, RIGHT? ALTHOUGH WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME HERE, ALMOST 40% IS OUTSIDE OF CHAMBERS DAY TO DAY.

SO THIS IS JUST SOME OF THE BUDGETARY CHANGES THAT WE HAD JUST DISCUSSED.

AND THEN THESE ARE SOME OF THE GOALS AND OBJECTIVES FOR NEXT YEAR, WHICH I TOOK FROM THE POWERPOINT.

SO WITH THAT YEAH. I HOPE YOU ENJOYED THE NUMBERS.

I DO LIKE THE NUMBERS. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO BE TRANSPARENT TO THE CITIZENS AS WELL.

ON WHERE THE BUDGET IS BEING SPENT. JUST TO WRAP IT UP, I'VE REALLY ENJOYED MY TIME WITH THE CITY.

I REALLY FEEL LIKE HAVING A YEAR UNDER MY BELT HAS HELPED.

YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND CERTAIN CODES AT PLAY.

WEALTH IS KNOWLEDGE REALLY AT THE END OF THE DAY, AND BEING BOOTS ON THE GROUND AND UNDERSTANDING ISSUES AND REVIEWING CODES JUST KIND OF HELPED SET ME UP FOR THIS YEAR. BUT FOR THE MOST PART, I JUST APPRECIATE THE TRUST THAT YOU'VE ALL HAD IN ME AND OUR FIRM.

YOU KNOW, FOR DIRECTORS LISTENING TO, I REALLY STRIVE TO TRY TO MAKE MYSELF AS AVAILABLE AS POSSIBLE.

I HOPE THEY FEEL IT BECAUSE I AM VERY INTENTIONAL ABOUT IT.

AND I JUST LOOK FORWARD TO ANOTHER YEAR. SO THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. I DO WANT TO SAY WE'VE DISCUSSED IT AND THERE ARE THINGS THAT AS FAR AS TRANSITION FROM MANAGERS AND, AND EXPECTATIONS AND THOSE CHANGES. SO YOU AND I HAVE DISCUSSED THAT AND WITH THE NEW CITY MANAGER, AND I THINK YOU GUYS HAVE A GOOD PLAN ON, ON BECOMING MORE EFFICIENT, NOT JUST FINANCIALLY, BUT THROUGH EFFICIENCY ALSO. CAN YOU JUST EXPLAIN, THOUGH, THE TRANSIENT COMMUNICATIONS SO I CAN UNDERSTAND HOW THAT HAPPENS? ABSOLUTELY. HOW IT WORKS. SO IT'S IT'S PART OF OUR CONTRACT.

IT'S 15,000 THOUSAND FLAT RATE PER MONTH. THAT INCLUDES ANY CONVERSATIONS, EMAILS, MEETINGS THAT ARE 0.3 OR LESS. SO THAT'S WHY YOU KEEP TRACK OF IT? BECAUSE I THOUGHT I COULD.

YEAH WE COULD. WE DON'T I DON'T BILL YOU FOR IT, BUT I KEEP TRACK OF IT BECAUSE I DO LIKE TO SEE, GIVEN THE MONTH, HOW MANY MORE TIMES I'M SPEAKING TO CERTAIN STAFF MEMBERS AND AS WE GET READY.

SO IF YOU LOOK AT OUR INVOICE WHEN IT COMES TO COMMUNICATIONS WITH STAFF, COUNCIL MEMBERS OR ANYONE AT THE CITY, YOU WILL NEVER SEE A COMMUNICATION THAT'S 0.3 OR LESS.

0.3. 20 MINUTES 18. OKAY. SO. OKAY. SORRY. IT'S IT'S 18, SO IT'S 0.1 INCREMENTS.

SIX MINUTES IS HOW WE BILL. SO BUT YES, NOW, IF I'M COMMUNICATING WITH ATTORNEYS OR SOMEONE THAT'S NOT ON CITY STAFF, THEN OBVIOUSLY YOU'LL SEE 0.2 OR 0.3 SOMETIMES FOR EMAIL EXCHANGES, THINGS OR CONVERSATIONS.

BUT HOPEFULLY THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION. IT DOES.

THANK YOU BECAUSE I OFTEN WONDER IF ANYONE CAN CALL YOU ANY RESIDENT OR YOU KNOW, AND HOW WHO DETERMINES AND HOW THEY GET TO YOU. SO THAT WAS ANOTHER PIECE OF MY CURIOSITY.

THANK YOU. I HAVE VICE MAYOR. THANK YOU. MATTHEW.

MATTHEW, COULD YOU COULD YOU BRIEFLY EXPLAIN? I'LL KIND OF LAY THE GROUNDWORK HERE QUICKLY, AND THEN JUST HAVE YOU COME BACK AND DO SOMETHING SIMILAR THAT YOU JUST DID WITH TRANSITIONAL OR TRANSITORY MESSAGING ON LEGAL AGREEMENTS.

YOU SAID EDITS ARE PROVIDED BY THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

AND I CAN JUST IMAGINE THESE AGREEMENTS GOING BACK AND FORTH.

RIGHT. COULD YOU JUST TALK QUICKLY ABOUT IF IF YOU HAVE EDITED A LEGAL AGREEMENT AND YOU SEND IT ON TO SOMEONE TO TO REVIEW THE EDITS MAYBE THAT YOU HAD VIA DISCUSSION OR EMAIL.

HOW DOES THAT HOW DOES THAT AGREEMENT GET FINALIZED? IS IT PROTECTED FROM ANY OTHER EDITS BY SOMEONE ELSE? DO YOU HAVE TO SIGN OFF ON THAT FINAL AGREEMENT? FINAL. FINAL. JUST KIND OF QUICKLY WALK ME THROUGH THAT.

ABSOLUTELY. SO USUALLY, STAFF WILL UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S AN ATTORNEY.

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I WOULD SAY 80% OF THE TIME WE JUMP ON THE PHONE AND SAY, I HAVE ISSUES WITH THREE, FOUR, FIVE. I HAVE ISSUES WITH ONE, TWO. WE VERBALLY SAY IT.

I'M ALWAYS THE CONTROLLER OF THE DOCUMENT. THEY NEVER ARE.

THOSE ARE THOSE TEMPLATES. THOSE ARE THOSE TEMPLATES. AND THEN THERE'S THIS THING IN THE LEGAL WORLD THAT WE USE CALLED TRACK CHANGES.

SO ON WORD DOCUMENT YOU CAN TRACK YOUR CHANGES, ETC..

SOMETHING THAT WE UTILIZE, BUT I AM THE ONLY ONE THAT SIGNS OFF ON THE FINAL DOCUMENT.

I'LL HAVE MY OFFICE COMPARE AT TIMES JUST TO ENSURE.

BUT FOR THE MOST PART, GARY DOESN'T EVEN SIGN UNTIL I SIGN AS TO LEGAL SUFFICIENCY TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE OPERATING OFF OF THE CORRECT DOCUMENT.

THAT'S WHAT I NEED TO HEAR. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER CHRISTMANN.

THANK YOU. MAYOR. SO WE'RE HERE TO DO AN EVALUATION.

THE CITY ATTORNEY. SO I HAVE SOME COMMENTS TO MAKE IN THAT CONTEXT.

AND YOU KNOW, FIRST OF ALL, I'LL SAY THAT I THINK THE DICKMAN FIRM INHERITED A NUMBER OF ISSUES AND PROBLEMS THAT WERE HANGING FIRE, AS THEY SAY, WHEN THEY CAME IN.

THEY WERE UNRESOLVED. AND THEN A LOT OF NEW STUFF WAS COMING THROUGH THE PIPELINE.

SO THE TO BE FAIR, I THINK THIS WAS THE ENVIRONMENT THAT THEY WALKED INTO AND I WOULD MAKE SEVERAL OBSERVATIONS ABOUT THEIR WORK. OBVIOUSLY, MR. MCCONNELL PARTICULARLY IS THE LEAD, BUT THE FIRM IN GENERAL.

YOU KNOW, FIRST OF ALL, I LIKE ATTORNEYS THAT TELL YOU WHAT THEY THINK.

AND I THINK THAT THE, THE MR. MCCONNELL AND HIS COLLEAGUES HAVE TOLD US WHAT THEY THINK.

THEY THEY GIVE US RECOMMENDATIONS ON WHAT THEY THINK THE ANSWER IS OR WHAT WE SHOULD DO.

SOMETIMES THEY'LL DO IT IN THE FORM OF OPTIONS THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO US, AND THAT'S FINE TOO.

AND HERE'S YOUR CHOICES. AND YOU DECIDE. BUT BUT THERE'S CLARITY THERE THAT I FELT LIKE WE SOMETIMES DIDN'T HAVE IN THE PAST, AND I'VE APPRECIATED THAT. SECOND THERE'S A TEAM THERE.

MR. MCCONNELL STRESSED THIS AND HIS, I GUESS, WHEN HE WAS GOING THROUGH THE BUDGET.

BUT YOU KNOW, MORE THAN YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN HERE SEVEN YEARS AND I'VE BEEN THROUGH SEVERAL ROUNDS OF ATTORNEYS, BUT I THINK THIS IS, AS A TEAM, FAR AND AWAY THE THE DEEPEST TEAM WE'VE HAD BEYOND MR. MCCONNELL. AND IT TOOK A WHILE FOR IT TO EVOLVE OVER THE LAST YEAR.

BUT WITH MR. DYCKMAN, MRS. DYCKMAN, MISS LINZER, AND AND MR. BROOKS, TOO, I ASKED MR. MCCONNELL AND, YOU KNOW, JUST SHARE THIS WITH YOU.

I TALKED TO HIM A WEEK OR TWO AGO AND I SAID YOU KNOW, IS MR..

WHAT ABOUT MR. BROOKS? HE'S THE ONE MEMBER NOT OF YOUR FIRM.

IS HE IS HE BEING HELPFUL? IS IS THERE A ROLE FOR HIM TO PLAY? AND AND THE ANSWER WAS ABSOLUTELY YES. HE'S HE'S SPENDING A A SMALLER PART OF TIME.

BUT HE'S AN EXPERIENCED ATTORNEY IN THE MUNICIPAL FIELD, PARTICULARLY LAND USE IN THE ENVIRONMENT.

THERE'S A GOOD PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP THERE, AND HAVING HIM TO AVAILABLE FOR CERTAIN MATTERS AND TO PROVIDE BACKUP AND SUPPORT IS SOMETHING THAT THE FIRM RECOMMENDS. SO JUST THAT'S WHAT I WAS TOLD.

AND WE ALSO HAVE MISS TAYLOR, WHO'S FULL TIME.

AND YOU HEARD WHAT THE FIRM THINKS ABOUT HER VALUE AS BEING VERY POSITIVE.

SO THERE'S A REAL TEAM THERE, WHICH I THINK WE NEED, NOT JUST ONE PERSON THAT WE'RE CONSTANTLY COUNTING ON.

AND THEN THE THIRD THING I'D SAY IS THAT WHAT I LIKE ABOUT MR. O'CONNELL, THE DICKMAN FIRM, IS THEY THEY CLEARLY RECOGNIZE THAT THEY WORK FOR ALL SEVEN OF US.

EQUALLY, EACH OF US ARE THEIR BOSSES AND INDIVIDUALLY AND COLLECTIVELY.

AND I THINK THEY SHOW EQUAL RESPECT AND AND COMMUNICATION AND DEFERENCE TO EACH OF THE SEVEN OF US.

AND AND THAT'S IMPORTANT IN THE WAY THEY NEED TO OPERATE, THE WAY WE NEED TO OPERATE.

SO I THINK THEY'VE DONE A REALLY OUTSTANDING, COMMENDABLE JOB IN THE FIRST YEAR.

THERE'S STILL LOTS OF LOTS ON THEIR PLATE. WE LIVE IN AN INCREASINGLY LEGALLY ORIENTED AND LITIGIOUS SOCIETY IN THIS COUNTRY AND IN THIS CITY. AND SO I DON'T EXPECT THE VOLUME TO CHANGE IN THAT REGARD, BUT I'M, I WOULD GIVE THEM VERY

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THANK YOU. YES. MR.. COUNCIL MEMBER. BARTON. BILL.

BARTON. YES. IT'S STILL BARTON. STILL. I ECHO MUCH OF THAT SENTIMENT.

I WILL SAY FROM AN EVALUATION PURELY EVALUATION STANDPOINT HERE AND NOT TO DELVE INTO THE MINUTIA, BUT IT'S FRUSTRATING BECAUSE WE DO LIVE IN A VERY LITIGIOUS SOCIETY, AND WE FIND PEOPLE OFTEN DRAGGING US INTO SITUATIONS WHERE THEY'RE TRYING TO FIND WHERE THEY'RE TRYING TO TO IMPROVE THEIR OWN PERSONAL SITUATIONS AT THE EXPENSE OF OTHERS.

AND THAT'S, THAT'S JUST THAT'S NOT JUST HERE.

THAT'S UNFORTUNATELY, THAT'S THE WAY THINGS ARE.

FLORIDA IS MAYBE A LITTLE WORSE THAN THE REST. BUT WITH THAT SAID WHAT OUR OUR LEGAL TEAM BRINGS TO THE TABLE, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT ROLE THAT THEY PLAY NOT ONLY FOR US AS A COUNSEL TO, TO HELP US MAKE THE RIGHT DECISIONS, BUT ALSO AS A, AS A PRACTICE OF PROTECTING OUR COMMUNITY.

YOU KNOW, WE WE SPECIFICALLY PAY FOR IT FOR THEIR OPINIONS.

WE PAY FOR THEIR LEGAL ADVICE WHETHER WE LIKE IT OR NOT.

SOMETIMES WE DON'T LIKE THE ADVICE. SOMETIMES WE WANT IT TO.

WE WANT THE THE OPINION TO BE, TO SEND US IN ANOTHER DIRECTION THAT MAYBE WE THINK IS A BETTER WAY TO GO.

AND UNFORTUNATELY, WE GET ANSWERS WE MAY NOT LIKE.

BUT THAT'S EXACTLY WHY HE SITS HERE AT THIS DAIS WITH US.

AND AS A PART OF THIS, THIS TEAM AS A WHOLE, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THAT, THAT LEGAL, PROFESSIONAL OPINION AT OUR FINGERTIPS.

AND I ALSO WILL SAY THAT I'VE GOTTEN A LOT OF FEEDBACK FROM CONSTITUENTS AND, AND PETITIONERS HERE IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT HAVE HAD TO DEAL WITH WITH OUR LEGAL TEAMS, SPECIFICALLY MATTHEW. AND THEY'VE HAD SOME VERY, VERY POSITIVE THINGS TO SAY.

MAINLY FROM THE THE APPROACH, USUALLY THE MESSAGING IS THAT IT'S A VERY PRAGMATIC AND PRACTICAL APPROACH TO, TO DECISION MAKING PROCESSES AND EXPLAINING THE LEGAL RAMIFICATIONS ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.

SO AGAIN, I WILL TELL YOU THAT I'VE GOTTEN A LOT OF POSITIVE FEEDBACK WITH, WITH THE WITH THE TEAM THAT WE HAVE AND WHAT I'LL, WHAT I'LL END THIS WITH IS, IS JUST TO, TO REALLY FOCUS ON WHAT'S IMPORTANT HERE.

AND THAT IS THAT YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT WE THAT THE DECISION HERE THAT WAS MADE TO TO BRING THESE GUYS ON AND BRING MATTHEW ON AS, AS OUR CITY ATTORNEY WAS A GREAT ONE. AND I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT THAT WAS OUR DECISION.

SO AS A COUNCIL, WE REALLY DID A GOOD JOB. AND I'D LIKE TO PAT ALL OF OUR, OUR PAT ALL OF US ON THE BACK HERE, UP HERE ON THE DAIS BECAUSE WE CHOSE I THINK WE CHOSE WISELY.

THIS IS SORT OF A SELF-EVIDENT. YES. IT IS THAT.

MATTHEW, YOU'RE DOING A GREAT JOB AND I APPRECIATE YOU THERE.

THANK YOU. I COULDN'T AGREE WITH YOU. ANY ANY OTHER COMMENTS? COUNCIL MEMBER PETRONELLA. YES. THANK YOU. HERE'S A COUPLE COMMENTS FROM ME.

ONE IS I THINK YOU'VE GOT VERY GOOD TURNAROUND TIME.

YOU KNOW, I'VE OFTEN TALKED TO YOU LATE AT NIGHT AND OR YOUR FAMILY OR YOUR, YOU KNOW, THE OTHER FIRMS LATE AT NIGHT, AND I APPRECIATE THAT. WHEN I'M WORRIED ABOUT A PARTICULAR LEGAL ISSUE, AND IT'S BEEN AT LEAST A HALF A DOZEN TIMES.

THE SECOND ATTRIBUTE I THINK IS IN YOUR COURT IS THAT YOU'RE BOLD AND YOU DON'T MIND A FIGHT.

AND I THINK SOMETIMES THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE NEED TO DO SO WE DON'T GET ROLLED OVER.

WE NEED TO COME OUT STRONG AND, YOU KNOW, FIGHT ON BEHALF OF OUR RESIDENTS.

AND I THINK YOU'RE A GOOD FIRM TO DO THAT. SECONDLY IS THERE'S A NOTICEABLE DIFFERENCE IN THE COLLABORATIVE NATURE OF WITH YOU AND THE FIRM AND AND CITY STAFF. I OBSERVE THAT EVERY DAY.

AND THAT'S REALLY GOOD BECAUSE WE WANT TO HAVE AN EFFICIENT ORGANIZATION AND THE SUM OF ALL PARTS WORKING IN A COORDINATED FASHION, NOT HAVING CONFLICT. AND AS YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT'S A THAT'S A GOOD THING.

THE SECOND IS I'VE NOTICED A AN INCREASE IN CODE ENFORCEMENT AND, AND, YOU KNOW, JUST ON, ON READING. WHAT IS COMING? WHAT COMES FORWARD? HOW ISSUES ARE ADDRESSED. AND I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT BECAUSE THE RESIDENTS IT DOESN'T IT DOESN'T ESCAPE THEM WHEN WHEN SOMEBODY GETS AWAY WITH SOMETHING AND THEY CAN'T. AND SO IT NEEDS TO BE AN EVEN YARDSTICK.

AND I THINK THAT THAT REQUIRES SOME TOUGHNESS ABOUT ENFORCING OUR CODES.

AND OUR RESIDENTS HAVE GIVEN A STRONG MESSAGE.

THEY WANT US TO ENFORCE OUR CODES, AND YOU SEEM TO BE THE GUY TO DO IT.

SO I'M VERY HAPPY ABOUT THAT. THE OTHER PIECE IS, YOU KNOW, I THINK YOU'VE GOT A HIGH LEVEL OF ENERGY, WHICH IS I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S THAT OR YOUTHFUL EXUBERANCE, BUT I DO LIKE THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT A CAN DO ATTITUDE AND YOU'VE GOT A GOOD ENERGY LEVEL WHICH IS WHAT, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF HAVING THINGS THROWN AT YOU ALL DIFFERENT WAYS ALL THE TIME.

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AND YOU OFTEN COME UP WITH SORT OF CREATIVE SOLUTIONS.

AND I'VE SEEN THAT A LITTLE BIT ON SOME AIRPORT ISSUES.

WHICH I, YOU KNOW, GOES TO SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I, YOU KNOW, LIKE YOU TO FOCUS MORE ON AND THAT IS FINDING SOLUTIONS FOR US TO REDUCE NOISE WITHIN A LEGAL REALM AND BEING ABLE TO WORK WITH OUTSIDE ATTORNEYS OR, YOU KNOW, OR THE THE AIRPORT ITSELF TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT WAYS TO BRING SOME OF THE NOISE LEVEL DOWN. THE OTHER PIECE IS THAT WAS I WOULD LIKE, ACCELERATE IT A LITTLE BIT IS THE WHOLE NOTION OF THE ORDER OF HOW WE DO ZONING PETITIONS.

AND, YOU KNOW, WE STARTED OFF WITH TALKING ABOUT DRB, AND WE WERE TALKING ABOUT WHAT IS THE SEQUENCE OF EVENTS ON HOW WE'RE GOING TO DO THE PROCESS OF DRB. AND WHAT WE'VE WOUND UP IS A LONG DISCUSSION FROM PEOPLE THAT ARE NOT REALLY IN A POSITION TO REALLY OPINE ON STUFF FOR IN GREAT LENGTH ON A DRB HANDBOOK AND SHADING AND HEIGHTS AND ALL THIS AND I'D RATHER TALK ABOUT WHAT IS THE PROCESS, BECAUSE THAT'S NOT REALLY THE THING THAT'S BROKEN.

IT MIGHT BE OUT OF DATE, BUT IT'S NOT BROKEN.

AND IT'S I THINK THAT THE THINGS LIKE THE DRB HANDBOOK AND SHADING AND SOME OF THE ARCHITECTURAL, YOU KNOW, STANDPOINTS ARE I DON'T WANT TO SPEND REALLY ANOTHER ANY MORE TIME ON IT.

I'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THE PROCESS. AND THAT'S BEEN GOING ON FOR ABOUT NINE MONTHS NOW.

AND OTHER AREAS ON COMING TO CLOSURE ON SOME OF THE STUFF THAT KEEPS COMING UP.

AND BEING A FACILITATOR IN THAT AND THAT IS, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD AT LEAST FIVE DIFFERENT INTERPRETATIONS ON THE CHARTER HEIGHT AMENDMENT AND, YOU KNOW, FLOORS. WHERE DOES IT BEGIN? WHAT IS, YOU KNOW, UNDERGROUND PARKING, ETC..

WE NEED TO BRING SOME OF THESE TO BED. AND, YOU KNOW, EVEN IF WE ALL DON'T AGREE ON IT, JUST TO COME UP WITH ONE SOLUTION SO IT DOESN'T COME UP AS A BIG SIX HOUR FIGHT EVERY TIME IT COMES TO COUNSEL.

THAT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL TO TO ME, AS I CLOSE OUT MY TERM IN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS.

AND AS YOU KNOW, PEOPLE, PEOPLE GO ON FOR THE NEXT FEW YEARS TO DO THIS.

BUT OVERALL, I WOULD SAY I'M VERY I'M VERY SATISFIED.

I REALLY LIKED THE INTERACTION WITH YOUR FIRM IN TERMS OF A, A PARTICULARLY THORNY ISSUE INVOLVING CAMBIAR PARK. AND I THOUGHT THAT WE WERE WELL REPRESENTED AND WE WERE AND IT WAS A VERY COMPLEX ISSUE. AND I THOUGHT THAT YOU GUYS REALLY HIT IT OUT OF THE PARK ON REPRESENTING US.

SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? VICE MAYOR? YEAH. JUST REAL QUICKLY. I'M NOT ABLE TO USE MY LAPTOP, SO I'M ACCESSING THIS INFORMATION WITH MY PHONE, AND MY PHONE'S ABOUT DEAD, SO I'M GOING TO TRY TO GET THROUGH THIS QUICKLY.

OH. THAT'S OKAY. THE CITY OF NAPLES VISION THE ENDURING CHARACTER OF NAPLES REFLECTS OUR COMMITMENT TO PROTECT AND ENHANCE THE NATURAL ENVIRONMENT AND TO PRESERVE OUR SMALL TOWN FEEL AND CHARM.

THESE FEATURES, TOGETHER WITH A POSITIVE BUSINESS CLIMATE, SUSTAIN ECONOMIC VITALITY.

RESIDENTS PLACE A HIGH VALUE ON OUR TOWN'S UNIQUE SENSE OF PLACE, NATURAL BEAUTY, QUALITY OF LIFE, HEALTHY ECONOMY AND ETHICAL GOVERNMENT AND ACTIVELY ENGAGE AND DEFEND THEM.

SO FROM MY PERSPECTIVE AND COUNCILWOMAN, PETRONAS I'VE GOT A LOT MORE GRANULAR THAN WHAT I'M GOING TO MAKE OR GET IN MY STATEMENT, AND I'M ALMOST THROUGH WITH IT ALREADY. SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S TRUE.

BUT MATTHEW, FOR THE DICKMAN LAW FIRM, FOR THE FACE, REALLY FOR THE FACE OF THE DYCKMAN LAW FIRM AND YOU BEING ON BOARD YOU'VE BEEN THE EPITOME OF ONE WHO WILL DEFEND WHAT THOSE CHARACTERISTICS, THOSE ATTRIBUTES THAT I JUST READ IN OUR VISION STATEMENT.

SO I HOPE YOU'RE PROUD OF THAT. I'M PROUD OF YOU.

AND I REALLY WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THE WORK THAT YOU AND THE TEAM ON DYCKMAN LAW FIRM HAVE BROUGHT FORWARD.

NOW, A COMPETENT CITY ATTORNEY CAN DELAY ADJOURNING A CITY COUNCIL MEETING FOR 2 TO 3 HOURS.

A GREAT CITY ATTORNEY CAN DELAY ADJOURNING EVEN LONGER.

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SO THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. GREAT. ALL RIGHT. WELL, I'LL JUST SAY IN CONCLUSION IT YOU'VE WORKED HARD.

WE'VE GONE THROUGH SOME STRUGGLES. I HAVE ENJOYED WORKING THROUGH MANY OF THE ISSUES, AND A LOT OF THEM ARE GOING TO COME BEFORE THIS COUNCIL TO MAKE DECISIONS ON IN THIS NEXT SESSION. YOU KNOW ME, I'M, I'M REALLY ABOUT EFFICIENCY IN MAKING SURE I PROTECT THE FUNDS OF THE CITY.

SO IF I ASK TOUGH QUESTIONS ABOUT YOU KNOW, FINANCES OR LITIGATION THAT'S GOING ON YOU'RE, YOU'RE ALWAYS QUICK TO ANSWER ME. SO I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.

I THINK THAT WITH CONTINUED HARD WORK, I'M, I'M PROUD OF WHAT WILL ACCOMPLISH TOGETHER.

SO WITH THAT, THAT ANY OTHER COMMENTS I WILL CONCLUDE WITH FIVE B, WHICH, BY THE WAY, I WROTE ALL OVER MY MEMO TODAY AND SKIP FIVE B AND I'LL GO BACK TO ANY PUBLIC COMMENT.

NO SLIPS. THANK YOU. COMMUNICATIONS BETWEEN COUNCIL MEMBERS.

[7. COMMUNICATIONS FROM THE MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL, AND STAFF]

YES, THAT REALLY HELPS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

BARTON. YES. I'M GOING TO JUMP BACK TO GARY, IF YOU DON'T MIND.

WE SPENT THE LAST TWO MONTHS ON RECESS. HOWEVER, THAT DOES NOT OUR CONSTITUENTS ARE NOT NOT NECESSARILY ON RECESS FROM GIVING US ADVICE AND ASKING FOR INFORMATION. SO WHAT I'D LOVE TO HAVE FROM YOU IS.

AND IT CAN BE A 10,000 FOOT VIEW. YOU DON'T NEED TO GET INTO THE INTO THE NITTY GRITTY, BUT I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE AN UPDATE ON THE PEERS THAT I MIGHT BE ABLE TO PASS SOME INFORMATION ON TO THOSE THAT THAT SEEM TO REALLY WANT IT.

OKAY. SO WITHOUT GETTING THE MOST RECENT HURDLES THAT WE HAVE, IT'S STILL THE LARGEST ONE IS STILL THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS.

BUT BUT THEN YOU HAD, YOU KNOW, FISH AND WILDLIFE AND FEMA.

THERE'S MULTIPLE PLAYERS IN THIS. WE ARE OPTIMISTIC THAT WITHIN THE NEXT 2 TO 3 WEEKS, WE SHOULD BE GIVEN A DATE AS TO WHEN WE CAN EXPECT THE PERMITS.

NOW, OUR HOPE WOULD BE IS THAT IF WE CAN GET THAT AND WE STILL HAVE THIRD PARTY RETIRED ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS THAT WE'VE HIRED WORKING FOR US, I MEAN, WE KEEP LOBBYING ON, YOU KNOW, AS MUCH AS WE CAN.

WE USED TO STAY IN COMMUNICATION WITH SENATOR SCOTT'S OFFICE REPRESENTATIVE DONALD'S OFFICE, AND EVERYONE'S TRYING. BUT AGAIN, THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, THEY ARE THEIR THEIR OWN MECHANISMS. SO IN THE END, OUR HOPE IS WITH THAT BEING SAID, THAT SOMETIME IN NOVEMBER, DECEMBER, WE'RE STARTING DEMOLITION.

AND THE REASON THAT'S IMPORTANT ANYWAY IS BECAUSE EVEN IF WE GOT IT TOMORROW, WE'VE GOT TO RAMP UP IN THE SENSE OF GETTING EVERYTHING LOGISTICALLY OUT THERE AND EVERYTHING ELSE. SO IF WE CAN GET IT WITHIN THE NEXT MONTH, WE PROBABLY WOULDN'T START TILL NOVEMBER 1ST ANYWAY.

AND IT HAS ABOUT A FOUR MONTH DEMOLITION PERIOD, WHICH THEN PUTS US IN CONSTRUCTION WHEN SEASON ENDS.

SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE ARE. BUT AGAIN, IF I WAS TO SAY TO YOU, YES, I'M GOING TO HAVE IT IN FOUR WEEKS, I'D BE A LIAR TOMORROW. SO I DON'T BELIEVE IN UPDATING AND PUTTING SOMETHING TOO MUCH IN PUBLIC, BECAUSE THEN YOU'RE RETRACTING IT ALL THE TIME AND IT MEANS NOTHING.

SO THAT'S WHY I HAVEN'T DONE THAT. OH GO AHEAD.

I WAS JUST GOING TO ASK REAL QUICK IN REFERENCE TO TO THAT INFORMATION.

SO WHAT I'M HEARING IS THAT WE'RE STILL HAVING THE SAME DIFFICULTIES THAT WE'VE HAD FROM A STANDPOINT OF GETTING THE PERMITS THAT WE NEEDED FROM ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS.

BUT DO YOU YOU FEEL LIKE THERE'S BEEN PROGRESS ON THAT FRONT? I DO BELIEVE WE'VE MADE INTERNAL PROGRESS WITHIN THE ORGANIZATIONS AND EVEN WHO'S LOOKING AT IT AND IN WHAT CAPACITY.

SO I DO BELIEVE WE HAVE MOVEMENT THERE AND THEN IN PARALLEL PATHS, AS YOU KNOW, WE'VE WE'VE CONTINUED WORKING WITH COLLIER COUNTY TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE LOCATIONS FOR THE JOLLY BRIDGE LOCATION AND SO THAT WE'RE READY TO GO ONCE WE'RE, YOU KNOW, WE GET THE OKAY IN THE PERMIT. SO THE COUNTY HAS BEEN VERY FORTHCOMING.

AND AND, YOU KNOW, REALLY A GOOD PARTNER IN THAT REGARD.

IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE'VE EVEN ORDERED SOME OF THE WOOD DECKING COMING BECAUSE THE WOOD COMES FROM BRAZIL.

AND WE WANTED TO GET A JUMP ON MAKING SURE WE DIDN'T HAVE A BACKLOG ON THE WOOD ORDER.

SO WE'RE MOVING IN THAT DIRECTION. BUT BEING ABLE TO DEMOLISH THE FIRST THING OR TO BE ABLE TO GIVE YOU THAT, I'M STILL WAITING ON THAT. THE THE PERMIT COMMITMENT THAT I CAN HANG MY HAT ON NOW.

STEFAN DID ALLUDED TO IT. FROM THE FINANCIAL PERSPECTIVE, IF YOU REMEMBER, WE KIND OF HAD A PLACEHOLDER.

WE SAID SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 7 AND 12. WE HOPEFULLY WE GET CLOSER TO THE, YOU KNOW, 10 OR 12 NUMBER AND WE'RE GOING TO BE IN THOSE BALLPARK.

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AND IF YOU GO BACK TO THE BEACH FUND AND IN THE BUDGET PRESENTATION, WE WERE AT ABOUT 6.7 MILLION BEFORE IAN HIT.

WELL, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A DEBT ISSUANCE BY THE TIME IT'S GONE WITH ABOUT 6 MILLION LEFT.

BUT WE'RE EVEN AT THAT. IF YOU REMEMBER, THE SLIDE PRESENTATION HAD THAT 7 MILLION.

WE WERE STILL ALMOST AT 3.9 MILLION. SO WE'RE GOING TO STILL BE RIGHT AROUND A $7 MILLION FUND BALANCE AS WELL.

SO AGAIN, THERE'S GOOD MOVEMENT. BUT UNTIL WE GET THE PERMITTING I WOULD BE REMISS AND I, I FEEL THE SAME ANGST YOU DO.

AND EVERY TIME THERE'S, YOU KNOW, A CALL OR ARTICLE EMAIL, IT'S LIKE, YEAH, I JUST IF I CAN ONCE WE GET TO THAT POINT WHERE I CAN DISCLOSE ANYTHING.

TRUST ME, I WILL. BUT I DON'T WANT TO OVERPROMISE EITHER, BECAUSE THAT'LL MAKE US IN A BAD POSITION.

THANK YOU, I APPRECIATE THAT. ANYTHING ELSE I CAN.

I MIGHT HAVE TO CHAT ABOUT CAN WAIT TILL WEDNESDAY.

SO GOOD TO SEE EVERYBODY. AND TO THAT POINT, I DO THINK THAT WE SHOULD PROBABLY FOLLOW UP WITH SOME COMMUNICATIONS TO THE COMMUNITY.

JUST BECAUSE I GET IT FREQUENTLY. AND THANK YOU.

OKAY. THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER CHRISTMAN. NOTHING FURTHER TODAY.

I'LL HOLD FOR WEDNESDAY. THANK YOU. OH, SURE.

KRAMER, I'M GETTING NERVOUS FOR WEDNESDAY. ALL OF A SUDDEN.

BIG AGENDA. NO ONE'S GOING. I KNOW. GOSH. I. THINK THAT'S FANTASTIC.

AND I DIDN'T SAY THAT, BUT SINCE IT IS HIS EVALUATION, HE GETS AN A+.

AND I HAVE TO REITERATE THE FACT THAT HE'S WILLING TO TAKE A STAND, WHICH IN HIS PROFESSION IS SO OFTEN JUST SO RARE BECAUSE THEY'LL TAKE A STAND AND SAY, BUT I DON'T.

IT DEPENDS. YEAH. I JUST APPRECIATE THAT ABOUT YOU AND EVEN TO A GREATER DEGREE THAN OTHER FOLKS AT DYCKMAN.

AND NO OFFENSE MEANT THEY'RE JUST IT'S JUST EXTRA KUDOS TO HIM.

TOMORROW IS TDC. I'LL BE THERE. AND HOPEFULLY MY COLLEAGUES WILL SAY, HEY, LET'S GIVE HIM 10 MILLION FOR THAT.

THEY'RE THE PROJECT THEY GOT GOING, SO WE'LL BE ROOTING FOR THAT.

IT'S GREAT TO SEE EVERYBODY AGAIN. GOOD LUCK WITH THAT TOMORROW.

COUNCIL MEMBER PETRONAS. IT'S GOOD TO SEE EVERYBODY'S BACK AND RARING TO GO.

AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY TODAY. THANK YOU, VICE MAYOR.

WELL, THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR, AND I APPRECIATE ALL THE COMMENTS FROM MY PEERS UP HERE.

I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO DETAILS OF THIS, BUT FOR AS YOU LOOK BACK ON THESE COMMENTS AND THIS IS PRIMARILY FOR THE CITY MANAGER.

I LIVE JUST DOWN THE ROAD FROM LAKES EIGHT AND NINE.

AND YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THOSE. AND FOR SOME OF YOU THAT GO BY THERE, YOU KNOW THAT WE'RE DREDGING, TRYING TO CLEAN UP THESE LAKES AND IT'S IT'S A IT'S CERTAINLY A JOB.

THE RESIDENTS AND AGAIN, NOT TODAY, MR. YOUNG, BUT WHENEVER IT'S APPROPRIATE, PLEASE COME PREPARED TO TALK TO US ABOUT THE CURRENT STATUS OF THESE LAKES. ANOTHER ISSUE IS ANY CHANGES IN THE SCOPE OF THE PROJECT, IF ANY ANY THE MUCK REMOVED VERSUS CONTRACTED VOLUME? THE DEPTH IN THE IF WE'RE LOOKING AT WATER QUALITY METRICS AND CHANGES IN THE METRICS, PARTICULARLY HOW NITROGEN AND PHOSPHATE ARE BEING MEASURED AS IT'S IN EITHER THE REMOVED MATERIALS OR THE IN-SITU MATERIALS.

BUT JUST GIVE US AN OVERALL UPDATE ON THAT. I'VE GOT A LOT OF QUESTIONS RELATED TO THIS, AND I'M JUST I'M NOT I'M NOT THE GUY TO ANSWER THEM DEFINITIVELY. AND I KNOW THAT YOU CAN GET THE ANSWERS.

YES, SIR, I WILL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THAT WAS ONE OF MINE FOR WEDNESDAY, SO I'LL SCRATCH THAT OFF OF MY LIST ON WEDNESDAY.

SO MY WEDNESDAY LIST JUST GOT A LITTLE BIT SHORTER. EXCELLENT. THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

I'LL JUST ADD TO THAT. AND THAT'S OUR DEWATERING POLICY AND, AND THE REMOVAL OF THAT MUCK AND WHERE WE PUT THAT MUCK INSTEAD OF IT DRAGGING DOWN THE ROAD IN THE BACK OF A PICKUP TRUCK.

AND IT ALSO RELATES TO UNDERGROUND PARKING. AND I KNOW THAT'S COMING BACK TO US, SO THAT MIGHT BE A GOOD TIME.

I WAS REMISS IN THE SEVERAL THINGS THAT WERE ON THE TABLE, MR. YOUNG. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE ANYTHING THAT YOU NEEDED CONFIRMATION ABOUT THE BUDGET OR ANY CONSENSUS.

I HEARD AN AI POLICY, WHICH I ALREADY KNOW. THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS.

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WE'VE INTRODUCED AI INTO OUR OWN SYSTEMS NOW WITH THE VOTE THAT WE DID IN JUNE.

SO I THINK THAT WE WOULD TAKE THAT ON. THERE IS ONE ITEM AND I THOUGHT I SAW ENOUGH HEAD NODDING, BUT WE AGREE. I THINK WE ALL AGREE THAT MOVING THE ADDITIONAL 3 MILLION UP IN THE STORMWATER FUND FROM WHAT IT WAS IN THE APPROVED CIP YOU AGREED WITH. SO AS LONG AS THAT'S THE CASE, THEN IF WE HAVE CONSENSUS FOR THAT, THEN WE WOULD WE WOULD WALK THROUGH WITH THAT.

AND THAT WAS A SPECIFIC SLIDE WHERE BEN HAD IT FROM THE TIME IT WAS ORIGINALLY PRINTED.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU ALL AGREE TO GO AHEAD AND BRING THAT FORWARD THE WAY WE HAD IT.

SO IS THERE ANYONE THAT WAS OPPOSED TO THAT? NO.

OKAY. YOU GOT THAT? YEAH. NOPE. I JUST WANTED TO COMMENT ON THAT.

AND I THINK WE ALL WE'RE ALL AWARE OF THE NEWS AND THE PROBLEMS THAT MARCO ISLAND IS FACING.

RIGHT? FINANCIALLY. SO IF YOU'RE OKAY WITH IT, AND WE ARE MANAGING OUR BUDGET AND OUR MONEY, I THINK YOU SAID WE HAVE AN ADDITIONAL 20 MILLION.

WELL, FIRST, YEAH, BUT THAT'S A GENERAL FUND.

IN GENERAL FUND. SO GENERALLY THIS IS A ENTERPRISE.

THIS IS THE STORMWATER ENTERPRISE FUND. WE CAN USE THAT WITH NO PROBLEM.

CORRECT. AND IT IS AGAIN WHETHER WE DO IT OVER A TWO YEAR PERIOD.

FRONT END IT. SO WE'RE IN A POSITION TO GET THE BIGGEST BANG FOR OUR BUCK AND GET AS MUCH STARTED AS WE CAN.

IT DIDN'T MAKE SENSE TO HOLD IT BACK FOR BECAUSE THE CONSTRUCTION COULD BE AS MUCH AS TWO YEARS OUT.

SO THAT'S THE REASON WE'RE DOING IT. IT FITS WITHIN OUR FUND BALANCE POLICY AND REQUIRES NO ADDITIONAL INCREASES TO ACCOMPLISH THAT WHICH WE PUT FORWARD IN THAT SUGGESTION. AND I'M SUPPORTIVE. GOOD. ARE THE OTHER.

YES, CHRIS, I WANTED TO JUST FOLLOW UP ON ON A POINT THAT MR. HUTCHISON MADE IN HIS COMMENTS, IF I COULD, JUST SO I DID MY MICROPHONE ON.

I JUST WANTED TO FOLLOW UP ON THE POINT MR. HUTCHISON MADE ABOUT LAKES EIGHT AND NINE, WHICH I WHICH I FULLY SUPPORT WHAT YOU SAID AND, AND THE NEED FOR MORE INFORMATION. WE'VE ALL GOTTEN QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS, BUT THE POINT THAT I WANT TO MAKE SURE IS ALSO TIED TO THIS IS THAT LAKES EIGHT AND NINE ARE ALSO KNOWN AS NORTH AND SOUTH LAKE, AND THEY ARE DIRECTLY. INEXTRICABLY INTERCONNECTED TO THE BEACH OUTFALL PROJECT THAT'S GOING ON RIGHT NOW.

SO THERE'S KIND OF, AS I SEE IT THEN, TWO WAYS OF LOOKING AT THIS AS INDEPENDENT LAKE, LAKE MANAGEMENT, LAKE CLEANSING PROJECTS, BUT ALSO AS PROJECTS THAT ARE VERY MUCH CONNECTED TO, TO THE TO TO THE PLAN FOR MAKING SURE THERE WILL BE FALLS PROJECT IS WORKS WELL.

AND I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT POINT TO MAKE SURE MR. YOUNG, THAT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT IT IN THAT CONTEXT.

YEAH. AND AS THESE THE ABSENCE OF BEACH OUTFALLS PROJECT, WE MIGHT HAVE BEEN DOING THESE PROJECTS ANYWAY.

RIGHT. BUT STILL WE NEED TO LOOK AT IT IN THAT CONTEXT.

THAT'S THE ONLY POINT I WANTED TO MAKE. THANK YOU.

THE OTHER PIECE I JUST WANTED TO CONFIRM WAS I HEARD THINGS ABOUT THE MAILINGS BEING MORE EFFICIENT AND POSSIBLE OUTSOURCING AND PRIVATE PROVIDERS. I THINK THAT AND ALSO HEARING THE CLERK MISS RAMBO'S TALK ABOUT DOING MAYBE POSSIBLY HAVING ANOTHER POSITION THAT'S ADMINISTRATIVE THAT YOU MIGHT WANT TO HAVE, OR WE MIGHT WANT TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ON THE EFFICIENCIES.

AND SHE'S ALREADY DOING PUBLIC NOTICES. IF, IF THAT POSITION OR SOMEHOW CAN SUPPORT THAT PLANNING DEPARTMENT, I'M NOT. I THINK THERE ARE DIFFERENT FUNCTIONS.

BUT WHAT I WOULD SAY IS I DO WANT TO LOOK AT THE OUTSOURCING ASPECT ABOUT WHILE KEEPING SOME CONTROL AND EVALUATING BOTH PARTS OF IT, BECAUSE I THINK THAT WAS A CONSISTENT MESSAGE FROM COUNCIL AT THE EARLY ON, WHICH WAS, DON'T JUST TURN IT OVER, AND THEN WE'RE WORRIED ABOUT WHETHER THEY'RE NOTICING CORRECTLY. SO I THINK LET'S TRY THE INTERMEDIATE STEP. LET ME GET SOME PRICES ON THAT.

AND THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU CALL IT MAIL PRE SORT OR MAILING PRE SORTING SERVICES.

WE ALL KNOW AND HAVE USED THOSE MANY MANY TIMES.

SO I DON'T THINK THAT SHOULD BE A HEAVY LIFT BUT I'LL SEE WHAT I CAN FIND OUT.

MADAM MAYOR, IN REFERENCE TO THAT, I WOULD JUST SIMPLY SAY ADD TO THAT THAT IT'S GOING TO BE A CHARGEBACK FROM A COST PERSPECTIVE.

SO IT'S A IT'S A NET COST ZERO TO US. SO ABSOLUTELY.

LET'S GET IT OFF OF OUR STAFF'S DESK. OUTSOURCE IT I AGREE WITH OUTSOURCING IT, NOT LEAVING IT UP TO THE DEVELOPERS TO DO IT RIGHT.

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SO 100%, YOU HEARD CORRECTLY. YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU.

BUT AS FAR AS PRIVATE PROVIDERS, I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE A SEPARATE BECAUSE THERE'S TWO THINGS.

THERE'S THE PRIVATE PROVIDERS THAT ARE ALLOWED FROM THE STATE TO DO INSPECTIONS, WHICH WE REALLY NEED TO BE A CONVERSATION IN A WORKSHOP, I THINK. YEAH. AND I WELL, I AGREE WITH FIRST OF ALL, THE PRIVATE PROVIDERS, THEY'RE THERE.

THEY'RE ALLOWED PER STATE STATUTE. AND WE HAVE VERY LITTLE CONTROL OVER.

AND, YOU KNOW, I'LL I'LL SAY THE SAME THING. YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE WHERE EVENTUALLY I HAVE AN EASEMENT ISSUE WITH OUR OWN GARAGE AND THE PRIVATE PROVIDER WHERE WE HAVE AN OPEN AIR EASEMENT IN THE FOOTER THAT'S BELOW GROUND THERE ON OUR OWN GARAGE.

SO THAT STATEMENT THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU TALK ABOUT A SPOT SURVEY AND EVERYTHING ELSE, IT DOESN'T MATTER WHO YOU ARE.

IF YOU HAVE A PRIVATE PROVIDER ON THAT CAN HAPPEN.

AND SO I DO AGREE A PRIVATE PROVIDER CONVERSATION.

BUT I ALSO I THINK MR. MCCONNELL WILL BACK ME UP ON THIS IS THERE'S SOME STATUTES THAT ARE GOING TO RESTRICT WHAT YOU CAN SAY AND DO ON THAT REGARD.

BUT AT LEAST TO HAVE THE CONVERSATION I THINK IS A FAIR THING.

AND AS THAT AS FAR AS THAT GOES, WE DO HAVE THE RESPONSIBILITY AND WE DO HAVE THE RIGHT TO CONFIRM WHAT IS GIVEN TO US TO BE ACTUAL OR FACTUAL, WHICH IS WHAT ALL I ASK IS THAT WE CONFIRM AND WE CAN DISCUSS THAT AS WE MOVE FORWARD.

UNLESS YOU HAVE SOMETHING. WELL, I JUST WANT TO MENTION THAT ONE OF THE NEW LAWS THAT WE'LL BE DISCUSSING ON WEDNESDAY DEALS WITH SOME MORE RESTRICTIONS RELATED TO PRIVATE PROVIDERS. SO GOOD FORESHADOWING. WELL, YES. NO.

NO, NO. YEAH. AND DO ALSO, I DO WANT TO I ASKED FOR AN UPDATE ON THE OUTDOOR ROOFTOP BAR AND THE STATUS OF IT BEING ENCLOSED. AND IF THOSE IF CHANGES WERE MADE TO THAT SITE PLAN OR NOT ENCLOSED. AGAIN, I'M JUST SAYING FOR FUTURE AND FOR FEEDBACK ON THAT, I JUST I THINK COUNCIL NEEDS TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT, BEING THAT THERE WAS A A MEETING OR AN EVENT THAT WAS HELD FOR PEOPLE BUYING MEMBERSHIPS LAST WEEK. SO. WITH THAT.

WAS THERE ANYTHING ELSE, MR. YOUNG, THAT WE FROM THE BUDGET.

NOTHING ELSE FROM THE BUDGET, MAN. OKAY. THEN ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE FOR TODAY? NO. I JUST WANT TO THANK EVERYONE FOR ALL OF THE, YOU KNOW, MEETINGS OVER THE SUMMER AND THE TIME WE'VE SPENT TO, YOU KNOW, TOGETHER IN PREPARATION FOR TODAY AND AND LOOK FORWARD TO THE BUDGET HEARINGS AND, AND AND AGAIN, IT'S A, IT'S A MEASURED BUT PURPOSEFUL BUDGET THAT HITS THE TARGETS THAT THIS COUNCIL HAS DEFINED.

SO I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT PROCESS. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MR. MCCONNELL. NO. NOTHING. MARY, I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU AGAIN FOR FOR THE HONESTY AND THE TRANSPARENCY AND THE REVIEW TODAY. I REALLY ENJOY WORKING WITH EACH OF EACH OF YOU INDIVIDUALLY.

SO I APPRECIATE IT. GREAT. THANK YOU. AND WITH THAT, I JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT ON WEDNESDAY THAT THIS IS BOATING SAFETY WEEK. AND IN IT'S VERY IMPORTANT.

SEASON'S GOING TO BE HERE BEFORE WE KNOW IT. THERE IS A BOOKLET THAT'S COMING OUT FROM THE COASTAL AUXILIARY.

AND I THINK THEY'RE GOING TO BE HERE THIS WEEK.

WE CAN DISCUSS IT MORE, BUT BOATING SAFETY IS DEFINITELY SOMETHING I WANTED TO MENTION THAT IT'S GOING TO BE IMPORTANT WITH OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT AND IT'S GOING TO BE IMPORTANT WITH OUR, OUR AUXILIARY.

AND WITH THAT, THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.